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Kevin

02-01-2005, 06:40 PM

Link (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/01/pope.health/index.html)

My prayers go out to him.

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Death Metal Moe

02-01-2005, 06:47 PM

I don't pray, but I wish him well.

I cannot tell you how sorry I feel for the Pope. He can't just fucking step down, so the guy has to suffer through Masses and other shit until he dies? Jesus Catholics, get SOMETHING right. Let old Popes retire!!!

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Kevin

02-01-2005, 06:50 PM

I cannot tell you how sorry I feel for the Pope. He can't just fucking step down, so the guy has to suffer through Masses and other shit until he dies? Jesus Catholics, get SOMETHING right. Let old Popes retire!!!

Great Point Moe. He should be allowed to live his final days in peace.

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This message was edited by Kevin on 2-1-05 @ 10:53 PM

FUNKMAN

02-01-2005, 06:54 PM

can't say i know the guy personally... seems like he tried to help people out

hopefully he doesn't suffer too much

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Death Metal Moe

02-01-2005, 06:56 PM

For real Kevin. Why should he have to suffer with Parkinson's and general old age right in front of us all? Reagan retired from public life when he was getting sick. We still have that strong image of him in our heads, not a drooling, dying old man.

Letting the Pope retire would help retain a healthy, vibrant image of him in people's memories.

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Kevin

02-01-2005, 06:58 PM

absaloutly Moe. I dont care who he is he is a human being and should be treated like one. Letting him suffer like that is very cruel. People will survive if the Pope steps down. Its not like he is doing anyone a disjustice. He is not saying im stepping down beacuse i do not belive anymore. He would step down beacuse he can't do it anymore. And there is NO shame in that. We all get to that point.

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Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

This message was edited by Kevin on 2-1-05 @ 11:00 PM

Iamnotatool

02-01-2005, 07:01 PM

While I agree with you both, I think doing something about all the touchy feely priests should kinda come before the Pope and his health. Truth is, I'm doubting the Pope makes too many decisions, rather is more of a puppet for behind the scenes people. Much like our president's. (No, I'm not just talking about Georgie, all of em)

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Kevin

02-01-2005, 07:05 PM

We are not talking about making decisions Tool. We are talking about him having to physically get up and do all the other things like conduct Mass and prayer and announcements

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Death Metal Moe

02-01-2005, 07:06 PM

Even if the Pope was making descisons at one point, I don't think he's able to anymore. But I get your point about figureheads.

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02-01-2005, 07:10 PM

Oh yea absaloutly. Your Right Tool. They are all figure heads. Presidents Popes all of em. Micheal Powel basicly runs the country while bush is in office. Or what ever that guys name who heads bush's religous group That groups names escapes me at this time. I may have the wrong name. Can someone help me with his name please. Evangelical Christians. Thats the name of the group. James C. Dobson, Thats the guys name.

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This message was edited by Kevin on 2-1-05 @ 11:21 PM

torker

02-01-2005, 07:12 PM

We pray for our sick brother that he may feel your hand upon him, renewing his body and refreshing his soul. Show to him the affection in which you hold all your creatures.

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grlNIN

02-01-2005, 07:24 PM

The Eskimos have the right idea.

Just put him in the Pope Mobile and send him out to sea.

 
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keithy_19

02-01-2005, 07:27 PM

The Pope reminds me of my grandpa. In the looks department.

Billy Grahm said that the Pope was the closest person to God on the planet. I happen to agree.

My prayers are with him.

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Kevin

02-01-2005, 07:28 PM

No one is closer to God then anyone else on the planet. I do not care what title you hold.

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ADF

02-01-2005, 07:35 PM

God lives in Garwood, NJ. I'm way closer to god than the pope.

My only hope is that the next pope has a system of morals grounded somewhat in the 21st century mold. I'd also like a billion dollars.

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02-01-2005, 07:35 PM

No one is closer to God then anyone else on the planet.

Ming might be, but he's nine like feet tall
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02-01-2005, 08:00 PM

I guess if you lived on top of the highest mountain you would technically the closest to God

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02-02-2005, 03:43 AM

I hope everything is okay with the pope.

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BoondockSaint

02-02-2005, 04:13 AM

It is getting to the point where you will see a Pope retire. We live so much longer now that it is becoming unrealistic for a Pope to die before he retires. This Pope should retire, and many in the Church have been urging him to, but he has refused so far.

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A.J.

02-02-2005, 04:22 AM

Billy Grahm said that the Pope was the closest person to God on the planet. I happen to agree.

Not me. I thought it was Dave Mustaine.

What do you mean he doesn't believe in God? He talks to him every night!

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IamFogHat

02-02-2005, 05:00 AM

I thought he was gonna go last year when he was real sick, but this might be it for him he's so fragile. I don't like this because my grandma is 84 and not doing well. Anyway, even though I rejected my faith a long time ago, he's a good guy and I wish him the best.

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TheMojoPin

02-02-2005, 08:46 AM

to die before he retires

Now THAT'S a neat trick.

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02-02-2005, 08:54 AM

My only hope is that the next pope has a system of morals grounded somewhat in the 21st century mold.

yep me too.

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FUNKMAN

02-02-2005, 10:04 AM

whether you believe in god or not doesn't mean you have to stop being a good catholic...

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FMJeff

02-02-2005, 01:04 PM

02-02-2005, 06:18 PM

Speaking of the Pope did anyone happen to see the nice picture the Daily News decided to post of him? I wish I had a way to pull it up, but I dunno he just looks really bad in it.

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02-02-2005, 06:25 PM

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A.J.

02-03-2005, 02:47 AM

IamFogHat

02-03-2005, 03:44 AM

whether you believe in god or not doesn't mean you have to stop being a good catholic...

Actually it does, all it means is you don't have to stop being a good person.

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Kevin

02-03-2005, 05:08 AM

does the pope even need our prayers? i mean, he is g-d's number two....

just like this guy....

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He was Number One.

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Thats what i thought. But i was not really sure.

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Freebird

02-03-2005, 08:07 AM

No, here's Number Two....

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FUNKMAN

02-03-2005, 08:08 AM

i guess they'll be less shit in the woods now

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03-31-2005, 01:04 PM

Pope given last rites... (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/03/31/pope1/index.html)

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03-31-2005, 01:51 PM

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I cannot tell you how sorry I feel for the Pope. He can't just fucking step down, so the guy has to suffer through Masses and other shit until he dies? Jesus Catholics, get SOMETHING right. Let old Popes retire!!!</FIELDSET> 
i think the pope doesn't want to retire, this his message against euthanasia ... 
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My only hope is that the next pope has a system of morals grounded somewhat in the 21st century mold.</FIELDSET> 
not gonna happen ... i forget his name, but the next pope (either italian/german) will hold the line ... 
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HelghastElite

03-31-2005, 04:23 PM

For the love of God, keep Michael Schiavo the hell away from the pontiff.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-31-2005, 04:33 PM

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Death Metal Moe

03-31-2005, 04:34 PM

<FIELDSET>i think the pope doesn't want to retire, this his message against euthanasia ...</FIELDSET>
 
I don't follow.  He could still retire and then receive all the medical care in the world in private.  He could issue press releases about whatever he wanted after that.

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badorties

03-31-2005, 05:21 PM

<FIELDSET>I don't follow.  He could still retire and then receive all the medical care in the world in private.  </FIELDSET>
 
the effect would be much greater in the public eye ... it's a really slow, lame, low-key matyrdom ...
this is the first time we're dealing with this ... it used to be that a pope didn't get sick until he died ...
and this pope is such a stubborn, thick-headed pole that he won't quit or be forced out until his time ...
he's got that 50 cent thing -- once you survive a couple of shootings, only the good lord can force yer hand ... (something to that effect, anyway)
 

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Kevin

03-31-2005, 06:46 PM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 450px"><LEGEND>QUOTE </LEGEND>
 
  
and this pope is such a stubborn, thick-headed pole that he won't quit or be forced out until his time ... 
he's got that 50 cent thing -- once you survive a couple of shootings, only the good lord can force yer hand ... (something to that effect, anyway) 
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Wow the Pope and Fitty Cents in the same reference. Never ever thought i would ever see that.

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03-31-2005, 06:59 PM

Good call back Fuzzybutt.
 
 
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FUNKMAN

03-31-2005, 07:04 PM

they said he's got a feeding tube... that's a tough way to take the kielbasa

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

04-01-2005, 02:06 AM

Not looking good
 Heart failure (http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2005/04/01/pope_has_brief_heart_failure/)
The Vatican is dismissing claims he was in a coma. I don't buy it.
 

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04-01-2005, 05:46 AM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 450px"><LEGEND>QUOTE </LEGEND>
Not looking good 
 <A href="http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2005/04/01/pope_has_brief_heart_failure/" target=blank>Heart failure</A> 
The Vatican is dismissing claims he was in a coma. I don't buy it. 
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The Vatican Mislead us? Get outa here Alice.

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A.J.

04-01-2005, 06:53 AM

<FIELDSET>I cannot tell you how sorry I feel for the Pope. He can't just fucking step down, so the guy has to suffer through Masses and other shit until he dies? Jesus Catholics, get SOMETHING right. Let old Popes retire!!!</FIELDSET>
Moe raises an interesting point here.
It's important to remember that while the Pope is the head of the Roman Catholic Church, he is also the head of the world's smallest sovereign nation -- The Holy See.  
Granted this nation is the size of a golf course, and is an oasis within Italy, but most nations have mechanisms in order to ensure the quick and orderly transfer of power.  Or, a way for a leader who can't effectively discharge his duties a way to resign or cede power temporarily.  Our own 25th Amendment is a good example of this.
Given the fact that this Pope was stricken with a slow, degenerative disease that affected his ability to effectively discharge his duties as both Head of Church and Head of State, perhaps John Paul II's example will give Vatican leaders reason to rethink or revamp their system of succession -- or at least allow imfirmed Popes a means to step down.

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04-01-2005, 07:32 AM

Given the fact that this Pope was stricken with a slow, degenerative disease that affected his ability to effectively discharge his duties as both Head of Church and Head of State, perhaps John Paul II's example will give Vatican leaders reason to rethink or revamp their system of succession -- or at least allow imfirmed Popes a means to step down.
Not gonna happen, unfortunately.  Badorties is right about this Pope being a stubborn old codger (being of Slav heritage myself, I can say that most of us do have the stubborness gene and it isn't usually recessive)  but it is also a theological point in Roman Catholicism that unearned suffering is redemptive, bringing the sufferer closer to God spiritually. That may have been  a fine philosophical position when you couldn't do much to help physically back in the day, but  I think that now that we have a lot of tools (drugs, medical procedures) to alleviate suffering, the moral position is not to be stingy with 'em.  Hell, I'll take a morphine drip... and I don't have to be dying either - I'll take one now!
Of course, I'm probably not on the short list to be Pope.
 

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04-01-2005, 08:30 AM

Do I even dare to imagine......
Death Metal Pope????

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04-01-2005, 08:41 AM

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Do I even dare to imagine...... 
Death Metal Pope????</FIELDSET>
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04-01-2005, 08:43 AM

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The Jays

04-01-2005, 09:23 AM

The pope does not want to step down. If he did, he would have wrote that into church law. When you're pope, you are pope till you die; that means you are the rock of the church; you are the sucessor to Saint Peter. To retire, and to allow someone else to come in, would be an instance of two popes. You can't say that the retired Holy Father is now less holy because he stepped down. He has to keep that power till the end, and pass it on through the selection by the cardinals.

When you read about how the pope requested to hear about Jesus' final days, it should make you more aware that this man hopes to understand th suffering and pain that Jesus Christ went through during his final hours on earth. He is willing to suffer, this is no mere man. He forgave the dude who shot him, for christ sake.

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04-01-2005, 09:28 AM

the pope has died

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04-01-2005, 09:31 AM

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Waiting for official word.

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04-01-2005, 09:38 AM

he's dead...reporting reuters...

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04-01-2005, 09:44 AM

Fox new says that the vatican put out a statement saying the Pope's brain and heart are still functioning.  So somebody in the Italian media has made a mistake.

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Furtherman

04-01-2005, 09:51 AM

Another old soul is dying.  He's no differnet than you or I.
Frank Perdue died.  He's more of a real figure that created and marketed something real and necessary more than an old man who lives in a city built by lies and blood.  
Plus chicken is tasty.
But Pope Watch 2005 continues to cloud the masses minds.  Awful.
 
 

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furie

04-01-2005, 10:41 AM

<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/quotetop.gif"> he's dead...reporting reuters... <center>
 
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Don't believe the hype.
reuters has ammended their story as "Pope Nears Death as Health Worsens"

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04-01-2005, 10:44 AM

I imagine he's been dead a few hours now.  They're just holding off on announcing it

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FUNKMAN

04-01-2005, 10:46 AM

i heard on WCBS today that they confirm his death by calling his name three times and if he doesn't answer then he's a goner
hopefully he's a light sleeper

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BoondockSaint

04-01-2005, 10:49 AM

I guess he was only MOSTLY dead.
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Tazz

04-01-2005, 11:04 AM

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i heard on WCBS today that they confirm his death by calling his name three times and if he doesn't answer then he's a goner
 
hopefully he's a light sleeper
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That's only part of it. They also hit him in the head three times with a small silver hammer. And no, I AM NOT making that up. 

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FUNKMAN

04-01-2005, 11:07 AM

<FIELDSET>They also hit him in the head three times with a small silver hammer</FIELDSET>
 
by some guy named Maxwell

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badorties

04-01-2005, 11:18 AM

this guy ...?
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04-01-2005, 11:21 AM

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04-01-2005, 07:26 PM

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fluffernutter

04-01-2005, 08:10 PM

I shouldn't be laughing at that.

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04-01-2005, 08:23 PM

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<FIELDSET>They also hit him in the head three times with a small silver hammer</FIELDSET> 
  
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sr71blackbird

04-01-2005, 08:31 PM

How many of us belive that he is already dead, and they are just leaking it out bit by bit to "soften the blow"? 
  
I say he is already dead, and probably has been since around 7 pm our time. 
He will definatly go down as the greatest Pope the Church has had in ages.  He bridged more gaps between different faiths and people throught the world than any other Pope.  Im sure his funeral will be something and the next Pope will have big shoes to fill. 
I hope he is at peace and not in pain anymore and Im sure God has a special place for him.  I wouldnt be suprised if he becomes a Saint.  God speed, John Paul II 
  
  
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HBox

04-01-2005, 08:36 PM

Everyone is talking about him on TV in the past tense, as if he is already dead. And I just saw on MSNBC an Italian newspaper that actually has "Giovanni Paolo II 1978-2005" right on its front page. Let Us Trim Our Hair In Accordance with Socialist Lifestyle!

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ChildofFez

04-02-2005, 11:31 AM

Its official Pope has died at 84. 
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UnknownPD

04-02-2005, 03:21 PM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 471px; HEIGHT: 76px">He will definatly go down as the greatest Pope the Church has had in ages.  He bridged more gaps between different faiths and people throught the world than any other Pope.</FIELDSET>
 
All that and he couldn't put fannies in the seats. 
I admit the guy had charisma and he did bridge gaps, but the simple truth is the church he took over is in bad shape today. The American Church has to sell of property to pay claims from the sex scandals. In New York City alone 24 Catholic Schools will be closed permanently in June because of declining enrollment. There are not enough priests to go around and churches that used to packed on Sundays sit mostly empty. The church as a whole is an irrevelant shell of its former self and at least part of that blame needs to be placed at the door of its leader.
Right now at the time of his death I guess its okay to only look at the good, but I do think history will judge JPII more critically than we do.
I was raised catholic and was personally affected by the scandals to hit the church.  I thought the Pope could have and should have done more, but he buried his head in the sand and the church will never be the same.

Doctor Manhattan

04-02-2005, 03:27 PM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 450px">He will definatly go down as the greatest Pope the Church has had in ages. </FIELDSET>
If he was able to get priests to stop blowing little boys, then I'd agree with you. Of course he's just one guy, how is he going to stop the thousands of perverted priests who enjoy touching boys?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

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FUNKMAN

04-02-2005, 05:07 PM

greatest Pope ever? I vote for Mickey Rourkehttp://shopping.yahoo.com/video/images/muze/dvd/sm/31/176031.jpg

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BoondockSaint

04-02-2005, 06:35 PM

Pope John Paul II was quite an athlete.
 
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However, rumors of him shutting down Jordan in a 1-on-1 pickup game have been exaggerated.
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TheMojoPin

04-02-2005, 08:13 PM

Personally, I think the guy failed to bring the Church into the 21st century, and even most of the 20th century.  The Church's attitudes and policies towards women and gays are still downright biblical.  And their approach to sex education, AIDS and birth control is flat-out Stone Age. <IMG src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin"> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

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The Jays

04-02-2005, 09:41 PM

What, do you think that every time a new pope comes out, they re-write all the laws, and start pulling shit out of their ass?

Do you even remember what every single pope was like before this one? Shit, Pope John Paul II was more involved with the world than any previous pope. No other pope ever visited the White House; no other pope gave a fucking shit. This pope traveled more than any other pope, he spent 3 years combined out on tour. He spread the word, he kept to the message. A good pope doesn't succomb to the whims and desires of the modern era; in other words, just because a bunch of people start sucking each other's dicks doesn't mean the Pope's gonna change what has been not just Catholic, but a Judeo Christian belief that men have penises, women have vaginas, and that those two oughta go together. The pope's job is to be St. Peter, not be some fucking politician, which is what everyone who ISN'T catholic seems to think the pope is. He's not the fucking president, he's the unbroken successor to Saint Peter here on Earth. His job is to spread the Good News of Jesus Christ. Don't give me this shit about how he failed in his job because the church still considers homosexuality is a sin, (omg global crisis) or because women aren't included in the church as much. Look at the history of the Catholic Church for the past 2000 years. Shit, we've only been allowed to say mass in fucking English for less than 50 years now! Give the fucking Pope a break; if you have a set of values for your religion, you don't go around changing them every time a new Pope puts on a miter.

Everyone oughta be looking at the things this pope did. This Pope went out, and spread the word of love and peace, and called for the end of every single war, and the values of every single human life. He preached the good word til the day he died, and he suffered in the end as his own way of becoming more humble and bringing himself closer to Jesus Christ.

Now, I may not be a practicing Catholic, but I find it insulting to think that this Pope failed in any possible way, when you can look at over 400 other popes who did absolutue shit compared to this one. This pope ranks next to fucking Constatine, Peter, Linus, as one of the greatest leaders the Church ever had.

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TheMojoPin

04-02-2005, 09:44 PM

I guess is thousands of molested children and a massive cover-up originating from the Vatican for decades IS more gooder then the Crusades!  Touche, sir! 
Thumbs up! 
And damning people to Hell just because they poke a different hole is pretty fucking barbaric. 
But don't worry, this guy let's us eat meat on Fridays and gets lots of frequent flyer miles!  HOT DIGGITY DAMN!
JP II presided over the church during decades of MASSIVE global social change, the likes of which have never been seen before in history, and the Church did zero to meet these changes, and now they're paying the price. 
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04-02-2005, 10:49 PM

r.i.p. Pope John Paul

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BoondockSaint

04-03-2005, 07:46 AM

This is too bad.  I remember when I found his wallet in Central Park.
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UnknownPD

04-03-2005, 08:09 AM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 471px; HEIGHT: 49px">Now, I may not be a practicing Catholic, but I find it insulting to think that this Pope failed in any possible way</FIELDSET> 
  
So, I guess we're all supposed to line up and follow your world view. What I find insulting is that you are unable to have a discussion where other people's opinion is  valued. Tell my sister who was molested by a priest that this pope was great. Tell me who had to fight off a sexual advance from a Christian Brother at LaSalle High School that this pope was great. Tell my buddy Tommy Callaghan who committed suicide shortly after a "trip" with this same Brother that this pope was great. Tell the kid whose family was destroyed by his mother's affair with a priest that this pope was great. (By the way if you don't believe this contact me privately and I'll give you names and dates) Tell me why the pastor of my parish drives a brand new lexus when schools are closing because of poor enrollment that this pope was great. 
Every single religion on the planet is expanding, there are more muslims today than ever, evangelical protestants are sweeping latin america. The only religions that have suffered a signifigant loss in "the faithful" is Roman Catholicism and main line protestants. Why, because they are not meeting the needs of the faithful. People see the church falling down around them, the world becoming dangerous and the Pope provided no answers other than "stay the course" 
In the end I think the Pope did well in certain areas, but failed to move the church forward. Whether or not he chose it, it became about him it was the cult of the Pope. Whatever message he was trying to spread became lost in the din of praise for the man.

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FUNKMAN

04-03-2005, 08:23 AM

i think Rutger Hauer would be perfect to play the Pope...

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UnknownPD

04-03-2005, 11:18 AM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 471px; HEIGHT: 29px">i think Rutger Hauer would be perfect to play the Pope...</FIELDSET>
 
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BoondockSaint

04-03-2005, 06:55 PM

He was human.  He died for our sins Boondock Saint.  Can I offer you this pamphlet? 
 
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Well, no Moe.  Jesus, like most humans, also failed.  That is one of the points of the bible.  Even the son of God is not perfect. 

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