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RadioLover
08-22-2005, 05:49 AM
There is no no doubt about it. With current recruiting levels at an all time low, the draft is coming! Will you stay or will you go?

Death Metal Moe
08-22-2005, 05:55 AM
<p>You have nothing except yoru scare tactics?&nbsp; ANY proof that you're even close to being right?&nbsp; </p><p>You can't just post this and expect anyone to take you seriously.</p>

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BigASSMember
08-22-2005, 06:12 AM
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>There
is no no doubt about it. With current recruiting levels at an all time
low, the draft is coming! Will you stay or will you go?
which recruiting levels
at all time low??? if you are taking about military... it was right
where they wanted it the past few months... what was down 2% (not that
much) was reserve recruitment.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>here is an article to back up my claims btw... and no it is not from fox news...</p><p><a href="http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1507357/20050810/index.jhtml?headlines=true" target="_self"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;" class="blkPnkHover">Military Recruiting Levels Show Signs Of A Rebound</span></a></p><p>plus
even if recrutment does not pick up... who other than lying democrats
trying to damage bush have ever talked about a draft... it is a pure
made up lie and scare tactic&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>but go ahead and spread you lies
and propoganda to promote a political platform that has failed to win
over people with rational arguments so now just resorts to the rhetoric
of hate and lies... go you!</p>

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angrymissy
08-22-2005, 06:16 AM
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) -- The active-duty Army reached its recruiting target for the second straight month in July, <strong>but the summertime rebound may not be enough for the service to fulfill its annual goal,</strong> according to figures provided by a Pentagon spokesman Wednesday.</p><p>The Army National Guard, meanwhile, missed its recruiting goal again, recruiting only 4,712, 80 percent of its July goal of 5,920 new Guard members, spokesman Bryan Whitman said. The Guard has hit its target only once in the last 19 months.</p><p>The U.S. Army Reserve also fell short of its target, recruiting 2,131 new reservists, 82 percent of its goal of 2,585, Whitman said.</p><p>The Army measures its annual goal from October 2004 to September 2005, which coincides with the federal budget year. <strong>The Army is trying to enlist 80,000 by the end of September. Officials are not confident they will make up the shortfall by then</strong>, although they have made progress during the summer, which is considered the high season for recruiting, as recent high school graduates look for work</p><p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/10/military.recruiting.ap/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/10/military.recruiting.ap/index.html</a></p><br /><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/angrymissy/newsig.gif" border="0" /> &quot;To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.&quot; [ Theodore Roosevelt ]

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Evilpete
08-22-2005, 07:06 AM
<p>well they won't take me, 26 yerar old with arthritic ankles and eye issues</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>but if they do try, call me in Toronto, where for some reason all the chicks up there are hot!!!&nbsp;</p>

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Tenbatsuzen
08-22-2005, 07:20 AM
<p>The government is already in a PR mess because of Iraq.&nbsp; We would pull out of Iraq before a draft is instituted.</p>

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curtoid
08-22-2005, 07:22 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>but go ahead and spread you lies and propoganda to promote a political platform that has failed to win over people with rational arguments so now just resorts to the rhetoric of hate and lies... go you!</p><p><br />Pot - kettle - black.</p><p>I have a friend coming back from Iraq this next week. After 4 tours with the special ops in Iraq, and three in Afghanistan, I'm sure he'll have a pretty good perspective, especially since last summer, when he was home last, he was told he wouldn't be returning to the big sand box. Of course I'm going to have to visit him at Walter Reed where he is now going to have to learn how to function the rest of his life with just one leg.</p>

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Duke
08-22-2005, 09:34 AM
<p>this sucks for me....i could be drafted as soon as im 18 i doubt asthma
will stop them from recruiting me ...i really hope the draft doesnt
come back. <br />
</p><p> </p>

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Snoogans
08-22-2005, 09:36 AM
i have a bad eye and bad knees, also i would fail drug tests....on
purpose. if it all goes down and they still want a piece of me, you can
find me in Vancouver or on the slopes of Whistler Mountain<br />


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Caucazoid
08-22-2005, 10:04 AM
<p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Do you understand how ridiculous and uneducated you sound? Do you realize both the Air Force and Navy are overmanned, trying to get rid of people? Do you understand the Army just received an increase in end strength authorizations, which requires recruiting more people? Have you considered that any serious push for a draft on Capitol Hill is political suicide? Have you considered that maybe the Army would lower standards as to allow more people in before asking Congress to implement a draft? Do you have any idea how slow bureaucracy moves when implementing a new recruiting system, benefits packages or- pray tell a draft? Have you done any research? Do you know that every single Soldier, Sailor, Airmen and Marine in the AOR knew damn well this could happen; to include the reservist and guardsmen? Do you truly base all your conclusions on one article that is ultimately designed to sell advertising? So while I sit in the box tonight defending your right to be an ignorant ass, I can assure you, being well researched, you don&rsquo;t have to pack your bags for Ottawa anytime soon. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></font></p>

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Snoogans
08-22-2005, 10:06 AM
<font size="0" face="verdana" color="black"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Do you understand how ridicules and uneducated you sound?</font></font></font>

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DarkHippie
08-22-2005, 10:18 AM
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">So while I sit in the box tonight defending your right to be an ignorant ass,</font></p><p>I thought you were defending the Iraqis' rights to be ignorant asses.&nbsp; The United States was never in danger from Iraq.&nbsp; We should be concentrating on Afghanistan, who was (and still is) a threat to us.</p><p>And you're right that their won't be a draft.&nbsp; And you're right about some branches of the armed forces being downsized.&nbsp; However, the reason for this is to transfer funds to the army and marines, who are doing most of the work in Iraq.&nbsp; Its the same reason why they are closing bases in Europe.&nbsp; Its a logical fallacy to believe that a reduction in some branches means a general surplus of soldiers.</p><p>As for a draft, it might be a good idea.&nbsp; Currently the majority of recruits come from low income areas or from the middle class who aren't eligible for college loans.&nbsp; There is definite socio-economic striation in the armed forces, and a draft would serve to even it out.</p><p>In other words, the rich should have to fight too.</p>

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Caucazoid
08-22-2005, 11:12 AM
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I didn&rsquo;t recall discussing the budgeting process, although I&rsquo;ll concede that an increase in funds would follow an increase in end strength. I also don&rsquo;t recall discussing why we are in Iraq or where we should be or how the U.S. military should be strategically postured. All subjects I&rsquo;m positive you are an expert on, or at least have the minimal education of the Kennedy School of Government&rsquo;s Maters of Public Affairs program (look it up&mdash;if you don&rsquo;t know, which I&rsquo;m sure you don&rsquo;t). So with that said, I also don&rsquo;t recall any discussion of a draft being limited to either the Army or Marines. Consider all characteristics of a draft, for as many positives there are negatives. So continue to try and change the subject and again I&rsquo;ll sit in the box, while you contemplate beer, pot and your overwhelming contribution to society.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font></p> <p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">P.S. What is rich?&nbsp; Can you define rich on separate and combined socioeconomic theoretical and actual scales? Or is it more that you heard all your life the rich don&rsquo;t go into the military, pay taxes, do any work or (insert clich‚ here)&hellip;try doing a little research. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></font></p>

HBox
08-22-2005, 11:17 AM
<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">All
subjects I&rsquo;m positive you are an expert on, or at least have the
minimal education of the Kennedy School of Government&rsquo;s Maters of
Public Affairs program (look it up&mdash;if you don&rsquo;t know, which I&rsquo;m sure
you don&rsquo;t).</font></font></p><p>I
looked it up, and darned if I could find it! In fact I can't find one
school in the nation with a Maters of Public Affairs program! I guess
us numbskulls are hopeless.<br />
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Snoogans
08-22-2005, 11:22 AM
<p>its the kennedy school of government</p><p>itss in massachusettes and its actually a driving school&nbsp;</p>

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08-22-2005, 11:23 AM
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DarkHippie
08-22-2005, 11:28 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I didn&rsquo;t recall discussing the budgeting process, although I&rsquo;ll concede that an increase in funds would follow an increase in end strength.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><em>Do you realize both the Air Force and Navy are overmanned, trying to get rid of people? Do you understand the Army just received an increase in end strength authorizations, which requires recruiting more people?</em> </font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;I also don&rsquo;t recall discussing why we are in Iraq or where we should be or how the U.S. military should be strategically postured. </font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><em>You didn't, but I did.&nbsp; I don't feel that you can seperate the two.</em></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">All subjects I&rsquo;m positive you are an expert on, or at least have the minimal education of the Kennedy School of Government&rsquo;s Maters of Public Affairs program (look it up&mdash;if you don&rsquo;t know, which I&rsquo;m sure you don&rsquo;t).</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><em>Eh, just some freelance journalism, but I like to keep on top of things.</em></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;So with that said, I also don&rsquo;t recall any discussion of a draft being limited to either the Army or Marines.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><em>You misunderstood me here.&nbsp; The budget for the Air force/ Navy is being cut, and the surplus is being transferred to the Army/ Marines budget.</em></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;Consider all characteristics of a draft, for as many positives there are negatives. So continue to try and change the subject and again I&rsquo;ll sit in the box, while you contemplate beer, pot and your overwhelming contribution to society.</font></p><p><em><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">No need to be rude.</font></em></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" /></p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">P.S. What is rich?&nbsp; Can you define rich on separate and combined socioeconomic theoretical and actual scales? Or is it more that you heard all your life the rich don&rsquo;t go into the military, pay taxes, do any work or (insert clich‚ here)&hellip;try doing a little research. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><em>I'll edit this when I find the data (or someone does for me),but recruitment levels are proportionate to socioeconominc status.&nbsp; This is not news.&nbsp; One only has to drive through the bronx and note the recruitment office on every block.</em></font></p><p><em><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I'm not knocking what you do.&nbsp; I just don't feel the same way.</font></em></p><br />

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Caucazoid
08-22-2005, 11:40 AM
<p>At this point I'm arguing for the sake of argurement, Big Ass, your right my bad, I'm responding to the ignorant ass, so I apologize as if I were judging by your name Iwould assume you have military experience--the other guy though, you got me..Affairs/Administartion...as far as my role, knowledge or access to spell check and tendency not to proof read, well I in no way feel compelled to give you a resume...so what do got next...be honest, I am.</p>

HBox
08-22-2005, 11:53 AM
OK, this guy is now officially a character. Would
the board member posing as Caucazoid please man up and admit
it?<br />


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Caucazoid
08-22-2005, 11:56 AM
No character, brother--just got some down time and all the other O&amp;A sites are restricted...so where's my boy???

DarkHippie
08-22-2005, 12:05 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>At this point I'm arguing for the sake of argurement, Big Ass, your right my bad, I'm responding to the ignorant ass, so I apologize as if I were judging by your name Iwould assume you have military experience--the other guy though, you got me..Affairs/Administartion...as far as my role, knowledge or access to spell check and tendency not to proof read, well I in no way feel compelled to give you a resume...so what do got next...be honest, I am.</p><p><br />It's alright.&nbsp; I never joined, but my brother was a marine and my best friend was an MP (airforce).&nbsp; I considered joining after high school because I didn't know how I was going to pay for school.</p><p>This is a good site for both sides of the issue</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription#United_States">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription#United_States</a></p>

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Caucazoid
08-22-2005, 12:19 PM
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Publicly my place is not to question why, how, what or whom. Privately&nbsp;I have my own opinions.&nbsp;What is obvious is we have to deal with the problem as is and figure out why later; and that's being done, you don;t see most&nbsp;of it (well maybe on FOX :) but the reality things are going a lot better than is portrayed.&nbsp;What I despise are people (especially in today&rsquo;s overly political world) who fail to do their homework and base what they think on a press that is nothing more than entertainment designed to sell advertising. A press that will omit facts, exaggerate truths or manipulates information for the sake of a better story. While I&rsquo;m here, the free lance journalist, I shouldn&rsquo;t have snapped at you either, in my boredom I thought I was responding to the dip shit that believes there is going to be a draft, so my bad. I still want to know where that douche is&hellip;I&rsquo;m here all night! I&rsquo;ll have a PC all night. I guess I shouldn&rsquo;t think even a douche would sit in a thread all night&hellip;shoot me!</span></p>

mikeyboy
08-22-2005, 12:26 PM
Caucazoid -- you're free to discuss your opinion, but please no name calling or personal attacks.

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Snoogans
08-22-2005, 12:29 PM
yea, idiot<br />


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Caucazoid
08-22-2005, 12:30 PM
I get all fired up, isn't that the an integral part of politics, arguing, which leads to name calling...you made me sad :(

Heavy
08-22-2005, 01:53 PM
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Have you considered that maybe the Army would lower standards as to allow more people in before asking Congress to implement a draft?</font></p><p>I think they hit the low point but around 99/00.&nbsp; The ASVAB has about 10 different sections that you get a score for, with 150 being the high I think.&nbsp; I had GP score of around 137 which was higher then most, but everybody seemed to be somewhere between 110 - 125.&nbsp; In my later years I was hearing scores around 75 all the time from the new guys.&nbsp; They were too stupid to realize how stupid they were and just said it like it was normal cause all the other guys they joined with had a similar score.</p><p>Half the guys showing up could barely read or fill out a simple form.&nbsp; Then youve got the non-citizens that cant speak the language.&nbsp; Communication is important in the military, its not like buying a soda and not understanding the guy here.&nbsp; </p><p>And DarkHippie, The police in the Air Force are SP's (Special Police, i believe)</p>

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BigASSMember
08-22-2005, 02:44 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>At
this point I'm arguing for the sake of argurement, Big Ass, your right
my bad, I'm responding to the ignorant ass, so I apologize as if I were
judging by your name Iwould assume you have military experience--the
other guy though, you got me..Affairs/Administartion...as far as my
role, knowledge or access to spell check and tendency not to proof
read, well I in no way feel compelled to give you a resume...so what do
got next...be honest, I am.</p>

no i have never been in
the military but my brother was... I would have gladly joined up but i
have horrible knees and 2 screws in my right knee which woul have
prevented me from serving (cant run or jump because of them)<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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O&AVIRUS&MORE
08-22-2005, 02:52 PM
<font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>There
is no no doubt about it. With current recruiting levels at an all time
low, the draft is coming! Will you stay or will you go?
<br />I have flat feet and took ritilan past the age of 12.... i'm staying right here!&nbsp; I can't learn to speak canaidan!<br />


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The Jays
08-22-2005, 02:59 PM
<font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>WASHINGTON (AP) -- The active-duty Army reached its recruiting target for the second straight month in July, <strong>but the summertime rebound may not be enough for the service to fulfill its annual goal,</strong> according to figures provided by a Pentagon spokesman Wednesday.</p><p>The
Army National Guard, meanwhile, missed its recruiting goal again,
recruiting only 4,712, 80 percent of its July goal of 5,920 new Guard
members, spokesman Bryan Whitman said. The Guard has hit its target
only once in the last 19 months.</p><p>The U.S. Army Reserve also fell
short of its target, recruiting 2,131 new reservists, 82 percent of its
goal of 2,585, Whitman said.</p><p>The Army measures its annual goal from October 2004 to September 2005, which coincides with the federal budget year. <strong>The Army is trying to enlist 80,000 by the end of September. Officials are not confident they will make up the shortfall by then</strong>,
although they have made progress during the summer, which is considered
the high season for recruiting, as recent high school graduates look
for work</p><br />
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FUNKMAN
08-22-2005, 03:08 PM
<p>Bush would never use the draft... at least not until all the current soldiers are dead first</p><p>what, that's not cynical</p>

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08-22-2005, 03:21 PM
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FUNKMAN
08-22-2005, 03:32 PM
rumor has it that Bush is going to implement the draft, and then he's going to canada

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Snoogans
08-22-2005, 03:33 PM
i think ive been hypnotized by blue/purple letters<br />


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HBox
08-22-2005, 03:38 PM
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08-22-2005, 03:43 PM
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BeerBandit
08-22-2005, 03:51 PM
<font size="4">Frankly, I can't wait for the draft.&nbsp; I've got all
of the players ranked but I can't decide whether to take Peyton or L.T.
with the first pick.&nbsp; <br />
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UnknownPD
08-22-2005, 03:56 PM
<p>As for a draft, it might be a good idea.&nbsp; Currently the majority of recruits come from low income areas or from the middle class who aren't eligible for college loans.&nbsp; There is definite socio-economic striation in the armed forces, and a draft would serve to even it out.</p><p>Having served in our all volunteer force I couldn't agree more. I firmly believe there should be a draft...whether its peacetime or not. The wealthy and the politicians need to have sons and daughters at risk.&nbsp;Its only fair that everyone serve. If they are not physically qualified for the military then some form of service should&nbsp;be mandatory.&nbsp;No exemption...no deferrments..(although after the fiasco of Vietnam those won't happen again) Serving your country whether in the military or the peace corps is an honor...one we should bestow on all citizens.</p>

Snoogans
08-22-2005, 04:00 PM
serving may be an honor, but in a free society, it has to be a choice.
consider how good it would work to take people who dont want to be
there and stick them into that, you are basically just gonna be sending
people to die. or to have 10,000 soldiers who dont support the war
spread out on missions risking the lives of the people who do want to
serve. thats real smart<br />


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furie
08-22-2005, 04:39 PM
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CaptClown
08-22-2005, 05:40 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font color="#000080"><font size="2">You guys are missing the biggest reason why a draft won't happen: It would be an acknowledgement by Bush and the Republican leadership that either something is going wrong or that there was shoddy planning, and that won't EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER ...EVER EVER happen.</font></font><br /><p>Why would he? Since he works the left like the Road Runner works Wile E. Coyote.<br /><img height="212" src="http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/3081/wecusa.jpg" width="260" border="0" /> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Director of the C.Y.A. Society. Field Marshal of the K.I.S.S. Army Poison Clan rocks the world</p>

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FUNKMAN
08-22-2005, 05:46 PM
<p>Why would he? Since he works the left like the Road Runner works Wile E. Coyote.</p><p>yeah! his left hand</p><p>beep beep</p>

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East Side Dave
08-22-2005, 06:00 PM
<p>...and just what kind of bird was the road runner supposed to be, anyway? And don't say ostrich cause I ain't never seen any ostrich run that fast in twenty sem-odd years of ostrich watchin'!!</p>

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Snoogans
08-22-2005, 06:03 PM
actually, an ostrich is pretty fast<br />


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08-22-2005, 06:07 PM
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El Mudo
08-22-2005, 06:09 PM
<p>It was Charles Rangel, a DEMOCRAT...who introduced the bill in 2003 to reinstate the draft..</p><p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.draft/">http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.draft/</a></p><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=BigCoop" border="0" /><br />Powered by <a href="http://www.cgispy.com/">CGISpy.com</a> <strong>.... We haven't seen the sun since '71</strong>Thanks Monsterone And Fallon

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Jackie Sloan
08-22-2005, 06:46 PM
All this talk and...the Canadians will deport you! To Iraq!

Tenbatsuzen
08-22-2005, 07:00 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>At this point I'm arguing for the sake of argurement, Big Ass, your right my bad, I'm responding to the ignorant ass, so I apologize as if I were judging by your name Iwould assume you have military experience--the other guy though, you got me..Affairs/Administartion...as far as my role, knowledge or access to spell check and tendency not to proof read, well I in no way feel compelled to give you a resume...so what do got next...be honest, I am.</p>no i have never been in the military but my brother was... I would have gladly joined up but i have horrible knees and 2 screws in my right knee which woul have prevented me from serving (cant run or jump because of them) <p>I think the other thing that would have prevented you from serving is that you fold like a deuce-four off suit when faced with any sort of threat.</p><p>See Po, Master.&nbsp; </p><p>Tool.</p><p><br />&nbsp;</p>

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08-22-2005, 07:23 PM
Or maybe your a fag who can't figure out what went on...nice poker reference really hit home, ouch

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08-22-2005, 07:29 PM
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08-22-2005, 07:37 PM
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08-22-2005, 07:44 PM
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08-22-2005, 07:46 PM
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08-22-2005, 07:50 PM
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08-22-2005, 07:54 PM
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08-22-2005, 08:01 PM
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08-22-2005, 08:03 PM
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08-22-2005, 08:04 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Or maybe your a fag who can't figure out what went on...nice poker reference really hit home, ouch <p><br />Don't know if you caught this or not... but I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to Big Aryan Member.</p>

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08-22-2005, 08:06 PM
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Bulldogcakes
08-23-2005, 02:40 AM
There wont be a draft. Even the Pentagon doesn't want it. Todays army
is too high tech, they need committed motivated people. Much ado about
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