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DJEvelEd

09-05-2005, 03:06 AM

quote: no excuse! then how come there was a news camera and a reporter in every nook and cranny pretty much from the getgo...  well mostly following the looters around   Geraldo & Shepard should join the service. They seem to be more resourceful than the army/national guard! Although I kinda like this General Honore: <img height="196" src="http://www.dod.state.ga.us/firstfridayonline/nov04/images/honre.jpg" width="220" border="0" />When he does a satellite interview, he finishes each statement with "Over". <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

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Bulldogcakes

09-05-2005, 03:45 AM

quote:
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
(D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a
proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of
the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency
operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought
unified control over all local police and state National Guard units
reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request
after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be
comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in
the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite
frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the
locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the
source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.
A
senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority
to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under
the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of
command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and
the New Orleans mayor It
goes on to say Gov. Blanco hired former Clinton FEMA director James Lee
Witt and created a philanthropic fund to protect her turf in this crisis.
Typical government bullshit. Everybody worries about their little
fiefdoms, gets into turf wars, who blames who, and fuck the public.
Plus, hiring a Democrat tells me Blanco sees this through partisan
lenses. At times like these you forget the Right/Left bullshit and just
do whatever you can to help as many people as possible. These local
officials are imcompetent. The Mayor and Governor cant scream about how
badly FEMA running things if YOU WONT LET THEM RUN IT
YOU FUCKING IDIOTS! It doesn't surprise me one bit that Louisiana has
some of the lowest test scores in the nation. You can be sure there
will be a commission convened and an investigation. And I cant wait to
read the report. 
I
get the impression they dont want the Feds in charge, because if they
were they might find stuff that would land every one of these crooks in
prison. 

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Bulldogcakes

09-05-2005, 03:50 AM

quote:This cant be true, It has to be a parody doesnt it?<a target="_self" href="http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16494464%5E1702,00.html">http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16494464%5E1702,00.html</a>articles title Sean Penn's rescue bid sinks <img width="287" height="431" border="0" src="http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5044250,00.jpg" />  It's real. Sean Penn's entire life is a parody. 


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DJEvelEd

09-05-2005, 04:49 AM

<img height="229" src="http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/astrodome_getty.jpg" width="200" border="0" />How many people will have consentual/nonconsentual sex in the Astrodome?The over/under is 401 participants. Do they turn the lights down at night? That may affect the wager.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

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A.J.

09-05-2005, 04:52 AM

Not to make light of an awful situation but that picture reminded me of "Revenge of the Nerds" when the nerds were forced to live in the gym.

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curtoid

09-05-2005, 05:08 AM

<blockquote style="">quote:Have we heard any cheers from the Middle East about this?  I'm sure Allah had a hand in bringing justice to the infidels own country, right?Hell, why am I attacking them when our own wacko religious leaders are probably convinced God is punishing us for allowing homosexual marriage and turning our backs on the Lord.  That's what some of them said after 9/11.[/quote]Actually, Iran has pledged to give money. In their statement they reference that the United States aided its country in 2003 when they had a devestating earthquake, even tho the 2 countries do not recognize each other. 

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DJEvelEd

09-05-2005, 07:44 AM

Does Bloomberg have a plan in place if this happens in Manhattan?Something OTHER than the "Swim You Bitches Swim" Policy used in New Orlæns? Is it the same policy for a nuclear bomb? I guess there is no plan for a "worst case scenario". Are we fucked in the event of a catastrophe? Should we worry?<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

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42nd-delay

09-05-2005, 07:46 AM

<blockquote style="">quote:<blockquote style="">quote:
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
(D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a
proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of
the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency
operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought
unified control over all local police and state National Guard units
reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request
after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be
comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in
the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite
frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the
locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the
source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.
A
senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority
to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under
the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of
command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and
the New Orleans mayor[/quote] It
goes on to say Gov. Blanco hired former Clinton FEMA director James Lee
Witt and created a philanthropic fund to protect her turf in this crisis.
Typical government bullshit. Everybody worries about their little
fiefdoms, gets into turf wars, who blames who, and fuck the public.
Plus, hiring a Democrat tells me Blanco sees this through partisan
lenses. At times like these you forget the Right/Left bullshit and just
do whatever you can to help as many people as possible. These local
officials are imcompetent. The Mayor and Governor cant scream about how
badly FEMA running things if YOU WONT LET THEM RUN IT
YOU FUCKING IDIOTS! It doesn't surprise me one bit that Louisiana has
some of the lowest test scores in the nation. You can be sure there
will be a commission convened and an investigation. And I cant wait to
read the report. 
I
get the impression they dont want the Feds in charge, because if they
were they might find stuff that would land every one of these crooks in
prison. 

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This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-5-05 @ 8:11 AM[/quote] Don't get sucked into the administration's spin here. This story was already partly discredited for a bald-face lie, that being that the Governor didn't declare a state of emergency until Saturday, when it can be conslusively proven that she did well before that (August 28th, or the Sunday before the hurricane hit). Her hiring of Witt was merely to have him coordinating the cleanup on the state level. In fact, his hiring was applauded by the current FEMA head. The Feds could have come in right away, but they fucked up.

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booster11373

09-05-2005, 10:14 AM

Here's some first-hand accounts of life in the Superdome by some British nationals<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4214746.stm" target="_self">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4214746.stm</a>The military told all non-US citizens to stay together for safety, Ms Sachs added. They later told them they would be secretly smuggled out in groups of 10 under cover of darkness as it had become too dangerous for them to remain in the stadium, she told BBC News. "When we were leaving, people were going 'Where are you going?' and giving us looks. Mr Scott told BBC News he had ripped wires attached to speakers from the walls of the flooded hotel bar and tied tables and chairs together as makeshift barricades. Hotel guests had already managed to chase one group of looters from the building, he added. They had then taken turns patrolling the hotel's corridors with a torch, Mr Scott told BBC News.

JUST SAY NO.....to pimping

Judge Smails

09-05-2005, 10:39 AM

Anderson Cooper rips into LA Senator Windbag who was too busy congratulating herself and other politicians for the fine job they've been doing:<a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Anderson-Cooper-Landrieu-Katrina1.wmv">http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Anderson-Cooper-Landrieu-Katrina1.wmv</a>  

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Fantom33

09-05-2005, 12:21 PM

Anyone disturbed by the fact that some reporters are denied access to certain areas and that martial law is in place? You folks keep talking about $$$ from who to where and disaster prevention, etc

Bulldogcakes

09-05-2005, 02:00 PM

quote:The Feds could have come in
right away, but they fucked up. OK, explain to me why they would not come
in, if they could have. They're obviously taking a beating in the press
with how many problems they're having down there. Do you think they
could do any more than they're currently doing, considering they had to
come in AFTER the place was already a disaster area. And please be
specific, because "They should do more" is a cop out. And so is "They fucked up". That doesn't tell me anything useful. 
 Dont
forget to factor in its a 350 square mile area, with a population over
a million with the surrounding parishes, most of which is under
10+ feet of water. And you have to go house to house with helicopters
and boats. 
Wikipedia quote:The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_census" title="2000 census">2000 census</a> put New Orleans's population at 484,674 and the population of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_New_Orleans" title="Greater New Orleans">Greater New Orleans</a> at 1,337,726.  

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curtoid

09-05-2005, 02:09 PM

<blockquote style="">quote:Curtiod  you were asking about what you can do for people from NO who are coming to the DC armory.  I contacted NBC4 and they said that there is a drop off at 1st district Headquarters on 415 4th SW.   When I called the city there was a message saying that they are only excepting cash at this time.[/quote] Jafter (and others in the DC area), today, when I went to the National's game at RFK, I stopped by the DC Armory and put my name on a list of potential volunteers. THEY NEED LOTS OF PEOPLE. Everything from labor, to helping with computers, to reading to children, etc. This is going to be home for a lot of people for a long time and they will need help. If you would like to be put on the list they gave me the number for the local Red Cross - 202-303-4525. They said they'll start calling at the end of the week and next week, but if they don't call to keep calling them because they really do want as much help as possible.

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HBox

09-05-2005, 03:32 PM

Great news. The levee breach has been fixed, the
pumps are working and the flood waters are starting to recede in some
areas. 

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ozzie

09-05-2005, 03:36 PM

quote:  As far as spending 100 billion on damages, I bet the Feds dont spend anywhere near that. As I said earlier thats $200,000 per resident, only a quarter of which is covered by insurance. And much of the poor lived in Government housing (built in the hurricane prone low lying areas) It'll be way cheaper to simply find them housing elsewhere. And from the news reports I've seen, many have no plans on coming back anyway. Throw in the fact that insurance companies will double their premiums after an event like this, it may not be affordable anymore for many.  quote:  Dont forget to factor in its a 350 square mile area, with a population over a million with the surrounding parishes, most of which is under 10+ feet of water. And you have to go house to house with helicopters and boats. Wikipediaquote: The <a title="2000 census" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_census">2000 census</a> put New Orleans's population at 484,674 and the population of <a title="Greater New Orleans" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_New_Orleans">Greater New Orleans</a> at 1,337,726.  I'm not picking on this board, because watching CNN & MSNBC and others, it still seems like most of the people in the world still think that the ONLY place damaged was the city of New Orleans, and that the only people who are suffering are those that were stranded in the city after the levee broke.<img height="539" src="http://www.npr.org/news/images/2005/aug/30/gulf_coast_detail.jpg" width="674" border="0" />Katrina's path took her on a due north course to the east of New Orleans, almost on the Mississipi line.  The winds around the eye rotate counter-clockwise.  The damage to that city was from strong winds moving east to west, and then finally from the north, after travelling over land and pushing water from Lake Pontchartrain over the levee.  Yes, the flooding escalated the situation, and the people left stranded there for days made it a news story... but the majority of the damage from the storm itself happened (as always with these storms) to the east and northeast of the eye.  There are entire cities on the Miss coast that are leveled.Hell, New Orleans wasn't even the only place in Louisiana that was affected.Forget the goddammed 350 sq miles of fucking New Orleans for just a minute and look at the area of land circled on the map above.If the levee hadn't broken over there, I wonder if this thread would have gone beyond the first page, and if anyone would be worried now about how much relief and response was sent to the other people of the Gulf Coast of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.I'm asking you all to please check out what happened along the Mississippi coast, and to think about these people too, and above all, please remember this the next time a Hurricane hits.  You will be shocked by what the winds and storm surge did over there.  

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...aaaaaand scene.

Snoogans

09-05-2005, 05:28 PM

If the levee hadn't broken
over there, I wonder if this thread would have gone beyond the first
page, and if anyone would be worried now about how much relief and
response was sent to the other people of the Gulf Coast of Louisiana,
Mississippi and Alabama. yea,
because they would just sensationalize whatever was the next worst
effected place. the only thing is you wouldnt have gotten to read those
2 NO songs 

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The Jays

09-05-2005, 05:31 PM

Everyone realizes this thing is huge, and the way we are using to
pinpoint just how bad this administration fucked up is to expose the
problem of New Orleans...  New Orleans was a major city now
surrounded by disaster, and yet the federal government somehow expected
the state to fix New Orleans, except the entire fucking region was
gone.   It's not just that they didn't respond fast enough to New Orleans. They didn't respond to anythingu ntil asked. 


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HBox

09-05-2005, 05:34 PM

<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/343547p-293308c.html" target="_blank">We
all laughed at Sean Penn but it looks like he actually helped people
and, regardless of his motives, that's a really good thing.</a> 

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Snoogans

09-05-2005, 05:36 PM

i wish they had thrown sean penn in the water and took of with his boat 

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Bulldogcakes

09-05-2005, 05:37 PM

NEW ORLEANS FLASHBACK: OFFICALS WARNED RESIDENTS 'YOU'LL BE ON YOUR OWN' (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3kt.htm) 
quote:the TIMES-PICAYUNE published a story on July 24,
2005 stating: City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing
to give a historically blunt message: "In the event of a major
hurricane, you're on your own." Boy,
this White House is good at spin control. They actually got this C.Y.A.
story printed before the hurricane hit. Genius! But hey, its all FEMA's
fault. Any focus on the locals is just a White House attempt to shift blame. Right? 
 BTW-This picture just amazes me. <img width="380" height="253" border="0" src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/nm/20050905/2005_09_05t163808_450x300_us_katrina.jpg?x=380&y=253&sig=pYSeNHSkbbC8GPIWvs0_fA--" /><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/05/D8CE8LP82.html" target="blank">Some people still refuse to leave</a> 

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HBox

09-05-2005, 05:42 PM

You are going to have to fix that first link. 

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HBox

09-05-2005, 05:44 PM

But hey, its all FEMA's fault. Any focus on the locals is an attempt to shift blame.HEY! Look what I made!<img width="142" height="183" border="0" src="http://www.eclecticala.com/figurals/strawman.jpg" /> Now I'm going to destroy it!

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Bulldogcakes

09-05-2005, 05:45 PM

Sorry, should be fixed now. You might want to read it before
judging it a strawman. The evidence of imcompetance by the Mayor and
Governor is mounting. I'm sure FEMA made mistakes too, its going to
happen with an operation this large. But those dumb shmucks didn't do much to prevent any suffering either. 

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HBox

09-05-2005, 05:57 PM

Here is the article in it entirety, so we don't have to rely on Drudge:[quote]City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own. 
 
In
scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray
Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council
President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have
the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people
without transportation. 
 
In the video, made
by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those
people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the
city in the event of an evacuation. 
 
"You're
responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the
person next to you," Wilkins said in an interview. "If you have some
room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space
for that person outside the area. We can help you. 
 
"But we don't have the transportation." 
 
Officials
are recording the evacuation message even as recent research by the
University of New Orleans indicated that as many as 60 percent of the
residents of most southeast Louisiana parishes would remain in their
homes in the event of a Category 3 hurricane. 
 
Their
message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The
DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the
it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups
heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income
neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community
Action. 
 
"The primary message is that each
person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family
and friends," Truehill said. 
 
In addition
to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make
evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the
National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann
Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans,
said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials'
scripts and doing the recording. 
 
The
speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise
viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and
tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a
representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals
weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets
left behind. 
 
Production likely will
continue through August. Officials want to get the DVDs into the hands
of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season reaches its height
in September, Katz said. 
 
Fleeing the storm 
 
Believing
that the low-lying city is too dangerous a place to shelter refugees,
the Red Cross positioned its storm shelters on higher ground north of
Interstate 10 several years ago. It dropped plans to care for storm
victims in schools or other institutions in town. 
 
Truehill, Wilkins and others said emergency
preparedness officials still plan to deploy some Regional Transit
Authority buses, school buses and perhaps even Amtrak trains to move
some people before a storm. 
 
An RTA emergency
plan dedicates 64 buses and 10 lift vans to move people somewhere;
whether that means out of town or to local shelters of last resort
would depend on emergency planners' decision at that moment, RTA spokeswoman Rosalind Cook said. 
 
But even the larger buses hold only about 60 people each, a rescue capacity that is dwarfed by the unmet need.

HBox

09-05-2005, 05:59 PM

You might want to read it
before judging it a strawman. The evidence of imcompetance by the Mayor
and Governor is mounting. I'm sure FEMA made mistakes too, its going to
happen with an operation this large. But those dumb shmucks didn't do
much to prevent any suffering either.I've
said all along I also blame them. I don't think anyone else is either.
The mayor of NO had his city destroyed so there was little he could do
afterwards, but the pre-planning was atrocious. Blanco has been
ineffective. The feds were late. That's as short as I can put
it. 


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09-05-2005, 06:01 PM

The big picture is that EVERYONE except them saw this coming, not
only were the mayor and the governor slow, but the President didn't
even get the info on how big this destruction was gonna be.   Only
the media was on top of this, starting with the National Hurricane
Center.  They had a clear memo sent to every single fucking person
that it mattered to, and they ignored it.  Turn on a tv, double check to make shit's going down, cut the vacation and get in the office.  Don't stay on vacation. 


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DJEvelEd

09-05-2005, 06:08 PM

OK, explain to me why they would not come in, if they could have. They're obviously taking a beating in the press with how many problems they're having down there. Do you think they could do any more than they're currently doing, considering they had to come in AFTER the place was already a disaster area. And please be specific, because "They should do more" is a cop out. And so is "They fucked up". That doesn't tell me anything useful.They should have followed Shepard Smith in there. Or Shepard should have brought more water with him. That fuckin bastard! It's Shepard's fault!!! Shepard should have brought trucks full of water!!! He was takin pictures when he should have been throwing water bottles! Fuck the Mayor too for not being smarter than Shepard! 

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Dudeman

09-05-2005, 06:46 PM

This is how the situation was viewed by people (the New Orleans newspaper) who knew exactly what access into the city was possible. That is, how do you get these people who were still in the city for whatever reason some water, food, and medicine.

"Despite the city's multiple points of entry, our nation's bureaucrats spent days after last week's hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city's stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies.

Meanwhile there were journalists, including some who work for The Times-Picayune, going in and out of the city via the Crescent City Connection. On Thursday morning, that crew saw a caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers headed into town to bring food, water and supplies to a dying city.

Television reporters were doing live reports from downtown New Orleans streets. Harry Connick Jr. brought in some aid Thursday, and his efforts were the focus of a "Today" show story Friday morning.

Yet, the people trained to protect our nation, the people whose job it is to quickly bring in aid were absent. Those who should have been deploying troops were singing a sad song about how our city was impossible to reach.

We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame.

Mayor Ray Nagin did the right thing Sunday when he allowed those with no other alternative to seek shelter from the storm inside the Louisiana Superdome. We still don't know what the death toll is, but one thing is certain: Had the Superdome not been opened, the city's death toll would have been higher. The toll may even have been exponentially higher."

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09-05-2005, 06:49 PM

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09-05-2005, 06:49 PM

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09-05-2005, 08:54 PM

Long, snotty letters don't get read by anyone. 'ceptin' me. On a tangential note, we now know where W gets it from:In a segment at the top of the show on the surge of evacuees to the Texas city, Barbara Bush said: "Almost everyone I’ve talked to says we're going to move to Houston." Then she added: "What I’m hearing which is sort of scary is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them."<a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054719">http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054719</a>

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09-05-2005, 09:28 PM

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/">The 'city' of Louisiana - Bloggermann - MSNBC.com</a> 
 
 
On MSNBC, Keith Olberman begins tonight's rant with a soundbyte that
sums up the situation, as stated from the brilliant ingenius head of
Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. 
 
"Louisiana is a city that is largely underwater..." 
 
And then, something a bit strange happens. 
 
Keith Olberman goes on a tear that rips wide open the heart of this
situation, and, no, Bill Frist isn't the one ripping it open in front
of the cameras. 
 
No, he calls this for what it is. A huge clusterfuck. 
 
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high fly

09-05-2005, 10:00 PM

Meanwhile, according to yesterday's Washington Post, "Whatta" Dick B. Cheney showed his concern by taking time out to shop for a vacation house in St. Michaels, Maryland.

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09-05-2005, 10:17 PM

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09-05-2005, 10:33 PM

Just when I thought Barbara was the only sane one in the family...  Damn, that was a stupid statement!!! 

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spoon

09-06-2005, 12:05 AM

Yah great article Drudge.  Next time perhaps they can just cut and paste one sentence on his site.  His credibility is gone, just like biased cakes (BC).  I love when you put down the local side and then say the national side takes some blame too while you move on to make excuses for them in the same sentence.  The city isn't much drier then it was on Tuesday, but it's amazing the Feds found a way this weekend.  Bottom line is that all heads should roll here.  However, at least the local authorities didn't stay on vacation.  Limit this as much as you want, but even on a symbolic level it was plain stupid on GWB's part, Dick's (still home shopping with Iraqi blood money, perhaps some of that missing 8 billion), and Condi's in NYC.  The FEMA head is a fucking joke, while Chertoff is useless.  Make fun of Penn all you want, but it seems even he responded quicker.

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09-06-2005, 12:07 AM

Does Bloomberg have a plan in place if this happens in Manhattan?Something OTHER than the "Swim You Bitches Swim" Policy used in New Orlæns?Listen, if anything on this scale or 9/11 ever happens again, I and you all should consider yourself %100 on your own.  I remember hearing McDonalds drive-thrus being used to distribute antropiene incase of a chemical attack.  Thats some of the shit being thrown at us to make us think steps are being taken to make us safer.  After not even being able to deliever water to thousands of people in the same location for DAYS I think its safe to say we are totally fucked if anything happens terrorism wise in the future.  You see it here, nobody goes into anyplace unless its safe.  In chemical attack the only ones equiped to even think about entering the location is military, and they dont even have what they would need.  Each person as 1 suit and mask.  The person in charge of the personals equipment barely has enough shit to issue to the troops for training and in a real situation they would need a new suit and mask filter every 12 hours or so.  that might be off by a few hours but the bottom line is they wouldnt be prepared to go in, and theyre the ones trained to do it.  Thats just a small example of why if we get hit, we're fucked, plain and simple.

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09-06-2005, 12:31 AM

quote: quote: Does Bloomberg have a plan in place if this happens in Manhattan?Something OTHER than the "Swim You Bitches Swim" Policy used in New Orlæns?  Listen, if anything on this scale or 9/11 ever happens again, I and you all should consider yourself %100 on your own.  I remember hearing McDonalds drive-thrus being used to distribute antropiene incase of a chemical attack.  Thats some of the shit being thrown at us to make us think steps are being taken to make us safer.  After not even being able to deliever water to thousands of people in the same location for DAYS I think its safe to say we are totally fucked if anything happens terrorism wise in the future.  You see it here, nobody goes into anyplace unless its safe.  In chemical attack the only ones equiped to even think about entering the location is military, and they dont even have what they would need.  Each person as 1 suit and mask.  The person in charge of the personals equipment barely has enough shit to issue to the troops for training and in a real situation they would need a new suit and mask filter every 12 hours or so.  that might be off by a few hours but the bottom line is they wouldnt be prepared to go in, and theyre the ones trained to do it.  Thats just a small example of why if we get hit, we're fucked, plain and simple.I don't think you can compare a terrorist attack with the destruction of a Category 5 hurricane unless the damage is the scale of say...a nuclear bomb. 9/11 was horrible and all but it in terms of logistics it was relatively contained to the financial district of lower Manhattan. None of the bridges were affected, most of the subways still worked, electricity and sewage was relatively undamaged and middle and upper Manhattan was completely unscathed.We're looking at two states with major damage....important bridges wiped out, most of an entire city under water...thousands of displaced people, looting, rapes, murders...I mean, I'm not happy with the federal response here, but let's keep things into perspective. 9/11 is a pimple on the ass of the damage caused by this hurricane. Let's face it, the federal govt was unprepared for a disaster like this...I imagine when all is said and done enough people will cry out to force change as is always the case...you learn from your horrible mistakes and correct them to make sure they don't happen again. I'm sure they'll build a category 5 resistant levee sytem, add more pumping stations and develop a more immediate response plan should this ever happen again. The government really only works if enough people are pissed off to affect votes... 

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09-06-2005, 04:12 AM

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09-06-2005, 07:27 AM

How big of a douche bag is Tom Benson...the owner of the Saints?...Looks like they...and the economic benefit they bring to NO...won't be coming back..ever...He's using this as the catalyst to get out of his lease permanently...

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JimBeam

09-06-2005, 07:32 AM

I didnt see the Geraldo & Shepard interview that was discussed many pages ago but I can tell you that I wanted to strangle that jackass when I was watching his coverage last Wednesday night.Here is this retard, in nice clean clothes, thrusting a microphone into the faces of people that are wading through chest deep stagnant water some of which were carrying children or helping elderly people.To make it worse he's asking questions like :" How are you feeling ? "" Are you thristy ? "" Are you tired ? "I mean give me a break. What the hell did he think was the answer ?Not even like he was there to hand the people water after he asked that ridiculous question.Now he's some kind of humanitarian because he's down there and others arent ?I was also kinda ashamed of a story I saw on one of the local NY news shows.It was about a girl, white girl, who was in NO with her friends family and got out on some buses that the hotel had paid for and made it to Houston where they flew back to NJ.How is that in any way a feel good story ?She lucked out and was fortunate enough to be staying at one of the best hotels in NO who apparently planned to have their guests get out quicker than some politicians.The stories I did find interesting were the ones about people from NO who were up here and now cant get back.One guy had gone into NYC to buy some things to sell at his store in the Quarter, now gone, and was staying at a hotel in NJ.He was running out of money but some people have managed to help him out.

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09-06-2005, 07:32 AM

<blockquote style="">quote:Barbara Bush-Audiovia <a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_09_04_atrios_archive.html#112596381619694000">Atrios</a>: *--StartFragment -* "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (she chuckled)--this is working very well for them."...<a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_09_04_atrios_archive.html#112596381619694000">read on</a> "                                                                 <a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/bb.mp3">Audio</a>-MP3<a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/" target="_self">http://www.crooksandliars.com/</a>[/quote] Source??

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Furtherman

09-06-2005, 08:01 AM

The last time I posted in this thread was last Friday and I said you won't believe some of the horror stories coming out of this disaster.  I was just as shocked to hear someone say that he didn't "think anybody expected" the levees to break.  Someone also said "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" to FEMA director Michael Brown.  Someone also said they look forward to sitting on Trent Lott's new porch.  Response time aside, if this asshole was in charge of any place else and made remarks like that, he'd be laughed aside.Oh yea, nice how he laughed when he said "this is going to take time" while touring MS.  Idiot.  Absolute.  Total.  Please stay off the TV and please tell me nothing more about what you are going to do.  Even though what you are saying about help coming to be true, I don't believe you.  You could tell me it's raining while rain soaked my clothes and I'd swear it was sunny.  Absolutle.  Total.I hope eveyone one of you who voted for him are happy.I'm not talking about being happy that a Republican is in office, just happy that an idiot is.  As for the recovery - I'll be up to us to help - what I can see is the American people helping the former residents of New Orleans more than any federal help.What I cannot see is New Orleans being rebuilt.  It's an awful thing, but nature will always win.  The Gulf Of Mexico will be getting storms like Katrina for the next 30 years.  Let it go.  

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JimBeam

09-06-2005, 08:09 AM

This is bad :<a title=" Shot By Cops Were Contractors" href="http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16494518%5E1702,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16494518%255E1702,00.html</a>

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Furtherman

09-06-2005, 10:03 AM

This is worse: (but not unexpected)<a href="http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09.html#077206" target="_blank">Bodies found piled in freezer at Convention Center</a>"Arkansas National Guardsman Mikel Brooks stepped through the food service entrance of the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center Monday, flipped on the light at the end of his machine gun, and started pointing out bodies. "Don't step in that blood - it's contaminated," he said. "That one with his arm sticking up in the air, he's an old man." Then he shined the light on the smaller human figure under the white sheet next to the elderly man. "That's a kid," he said. "There's another one in the freezer, a 7-year-old with her throat cut." He moved on, walking quickly through the darkness, pulling his camouflage shirt to his face to screen out the overwhelming odor. "There's an old woman," he said, pointing to a wheelchair covered by a sheet. "I escorted her in myself. And that old man got bludgeoned to death," he said of the body lying on the floor next to the wheelchair. 

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JimBeam

09-06-2005, 10:39 AM

Who the hell do you think killed those people ?I mean I doubt they had anything to steal and even if they did whoever was able to kill them could've just taken what they wanted.I know there's way too much human suffering going on to be overly concerned with the animals but this is a pretty sad :<a href="http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050906/ap/d8cek2ag0.html">http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050906/ap/d8cek2ag0.html</a>

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Furtherman

09-06-2005, 11:36 AM

quote: Who the hell do you think killed those people ? I mean I doubt they had anything to steal and even if they did whoever was able to kill them could've just taken what they wanted. They're everywhere.  N.O. had some dirt poor communities, a lot of shantytowns so you probably had some real twisted fucks along with some pedophiles and other sickos who cound blend in and keep to themselves in communities where they would be largely left alone, and were able to pull off their kicks relatively easily before.  Nothing shocking, just a kid disappears here and there... maybe one or two a month - and you know the media doesn't give a shit about a missing kid unless she's pretty and white.  There are THOUSANDS of kids who go missing each year.  The convention center was a clusterfuck, and they took advantage.  Is it really that shocking?   This happens wherever there is a clusterfuck.  Africa, Croatia, Mexico, etc, etc, etc.....<div /> <img alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Furtherman/furtherblur.jpg" border="0" />

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JimBeam

09-06-2005, 01:32 PM

I just got news from my friend in Baton Rouge reagrding that link I posted earlier about the 5 civilians working with the Corps Of Engineers being killed by the NOPD.He says its incorrect and that the cops were protecting the workers from others with guns ( who were killed ).

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angrymissy

09-06-2005, 01:53 PM

Unfucking believable:<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/09/05/halliburton-subsidiary-ta_n_6865.html" target="_self">Halliburton Subsidiary Taps $500M Contract To Clean Up Katrina Damage…</a>Tradegy lines the pockets of the Bush Administration once again.

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09-06-2005, 01:59 PM

quote: Unfucking believable:<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/09/05/halliburton-subsidiary-ta_n_6865.html" target="_self">Halliburton Subsidiary Taps $500M Contract To Clean Up Katrina Damage…</a>Tradegy lines the pockets of the Bush Administration once again.     The excuse in Iraq was that Haliburton was the only corp. that could do that kind of work, I wonder what the excuse will be this time, and how the hell can a contract be awarded alredy recovery ops are still taking place.

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booster11373

09-06-2005, 02:01 PM

I just answered my own questionAn Arlington-based Halliburton Co. subsidiary that has been criticized for its reconstruction work in Iraq has begun tapping a $500 million Navy contract to do emergency repairs at Gulf Coast naval and Marine facilities damaged by Hurricane Katrina.The subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown & Root Services Inc., won the competitive bid contract last July to provide debris removal and other emergency work associated with natural disastersstill sucks though!

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09-06-2005, 02:25 PM

These articles are disturbing       * RedCross' questionable practices * <a href="http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/4541.php">http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/4541.php</a>  * Communcation blackout suspected to be caused by Pentagon *<a href="http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/4568.php">http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/4568.php</a>  * Martial Law = Businesses always come first * <a href="http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/3976_comment.php">http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/3976_comment.php</a>

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HBox

09-06-2005, 03:12 PM

The history is clear, the Red Cross and other large so-called charities
are in actual fact front group collection agencies for the military
industrial complex. 
 
Many informed historians have even
alleged that the Red Cross was used as a Skull and Bones cover to
overthrow The Russian Czar and pave the way for the rise of the
Bolsheviks. 
 
Do not give any money to the Red Cross unless you
support the expansion of empire abroad and police state at home. Find a
smaller trustworthy organization in the local area of New Orleans and
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angrymissy

09-06-2005, 03:17 PM

I just signed up to go to the south, ( I work in a hospital)Any sugestions as to what I need to bring with meI don't think I am going to bring any cashany ideasDon't bring any cash.  We had a few employees (i work in the medical/pharma industry) go to the Astrodome in Houston and the company had to pull them out due to safety concerns.  They were advised to not bring cash, not dress flashy, and stay in groups for safety.I would make sure you have a working cell phone and a backup battery.

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HBox

09-06-2005, 03:18 PM

No link yet, but CNN is reporting that the Superdome was so badly damaged that it will have to be torn down.I feel like Tom Benson is less of a dick now. And we see how well they thought through these shelters. 


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Bulldogcakes

09-06-2005, 03:23 PM

quote: The mayor of NO had his city destroyed so there was little he could do
afterwards, but the pre-planning was atrocious. Blanco has been
ineffective. The feds were late. That's as short as I can put
it. 
I
agree with every word. The Feds have been saying they were late because
they're not allowed to deploy troops domestically (Which is true, Only
Gov's can. Based on some arcane 19 century law) and were waiting for
the Gov to give them the OK. They also say it takes them 72 hours to
deploy, once asked to. The Governor and Mayor said all communications
were down, so for the 1st few days it was chaotic trying to get all of
their pieces together. So there's plenty of blame to go around. I think
FEMA should be able to deploy faster than that, And somebody please get
anyone who matters in Gov't a satellite phone! 
 And my whole
point all along has been this was an unprecedented disaster, and I
think some people had unrealistic expectations given the realities on
the ground. I saw Geraldo (earlier in this thread) screaming on Fox
news to let people use the only road out to walk to the next town, who
were turned away by Police. Now think about that for a second. You want
the ONLY ROAD into the city to be BLOCKED by thousands of people
walking? Then how does the food and medicine get into town, stunad?  They'll be hearings, they'll be lots of blame to go around and lots of reforms I'm sure. And I'd be amazed if Blanco gets elected dog catcher ever again.  

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JimBeam

09-06-2005, 03:40 PM

I'm sure the 72 hour delay is in part due to the fact that the guardsmen have to be called up.I'm sure a lot of them are reservists.I know that every other time there was a hurricane in La all of the guys that I went to college with that were in the La Nat'l Guard got called up and had to go sandbag the river.No they are asking other states to send people as well.

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Bulldogcakes

09-06-2005, 03:42 PM

And Spoon, I didn't even VOTE last November. I live in NYC and its
pointless. Bush doesn't even bother to run an ad in the city, and
nobody
seems to have ever even HEARD his side of any story. So I'm just trying
to add some balance where I think I see bias. I probably agree w/Bush
on 5 out of every 10 issues. He's a Social Conservative/Fiscal Liberal.
I'm more of a Fiscal conservative/social Liberal type, which I guess
makes me a moderate Libertarian, if there is such a thing. And
you're not exactly down the middle yourself, calling for everyone's
head before we even have hearings to find out what went wrong. 


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Bulldogcakes

09-06-2005, 03:48 PM

quote:I'm sure the 72 hour delay is in part due to the fact that the guardsmen have to be called up.I'm sure a lot of them are reservists.I
know that every other time there was a hurricane in La all of the guys
that I went to college with that were in the La Nat'l Guard got called
up and had to go sandbag the river[/quote] Yep.
And the thing about "If we wern't in Iraq, we'd have more troops
available" turns out to not be true at all. We have 600,000 reserves in
this country and the troops serving in Iraq wouldn't be here, they'd be
stationed elsewhere overseas. Iraq has the Army, Navy, Marines. The
people being called to Louisiana are local National Guard and Army
reserves. Apples and Oranges. 
 

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JimBeam

09-06-2005, 03:50 PM

Also the vast majority of the troops stationed abroad are combat troops, especially those in Iraq.The troops being deployed here are largely logistical ( MPs, engineers, etc ... )

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HBox

09-06-2005, 04:10 PM

<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197" target="_blank">This is just fucking stupid.</a> 

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spoon

09-06-2005, 04:13 PM

BC, if you don't see the fault in the federal's side of this I don't have a clue what you've been witnessing?  The evacuation was a failure, the rescue was a failure and FEMA is a fucking joke.  We live in a country when fucking Walmart responds better than local, regional and federal government.  And I'm no fan of Walmart.  Oh don't worry though, the Bush admin is going to investigate itself.  So next time why don't we just let Scott Peterson take himself to trial.  What a fucking joke!

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spoon

09-06-2005, 04:21 PM

No, that's a good response by the federal government over a week removed H!  UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!

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HBox

09-06-2005, 04:32 PM

I'm not sure anyone would anyway, but from now
on no one on this board is allowed to use William Kristol as a credible
source. Why?<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/06/politics/politicsspecial1/06assess.html" target="_blank">This is why.</a>
William Kristol, the conservative publisher of The Weekly Standard,
said of Mr. Bush: "I do think people think he could have showed
stronger leadership." But Mr. Kristol expressed doubt that the
hurricane would have much lasting effect on the president's personal
and political fortunes, because "people are capable of saying, 'The
president kind of screwed this one up, but I still basically agree with
him.'"
Mr. Kristol added, "I think the Clinton administration
would have done a better job in handling Hurricane Katrina, but I'm
also glad Bush is president and not a Democrat."
Now here's a guy whose got his priorities straight! 


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42nd-delay

09-06-2005, 08:24 PM

<blockquote style="">quote:The Feds have been saying they were late because they're not allowed to deploy troops domestically (Which is true, Only Gov's can. Based on some arcane 19 century law) and were waiting for the Gov to give them the OK.[/quote]It's simply not true that the Federal government couldn't move til they got replies from the state. According to the government's <a href="http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/4/171811/1974">own National Response Plan</a>, the Federal government can supercede the state in times of emergency, defined as: "any natural or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or government functions." </div> In these cases, the Feds'</div> </div>"...primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national security." </div> </div>and</div> </div>"Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use of critical resources.  States are urged to notify and coordinate with local governments regarding a proactive Federal response." </div> </div>They didn't have to wait for the state...</div> </div> ------------------------------</div> 

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Heavy

09-06-2005, 11:17 PM

Le5 me just ask if you post a link that you give some sort of clue as to what its about.  "This is bad" doesnt tell us anything and ill be back and forth from this thread and the linked pages that dont open in a new window forever cause i only check here once a day and theres tons of new posts.  Thank You for your cooperation, Wadd

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Heavy

09-07-2005, 12:31 AM

BTW, is it really newsworthy that the Mayor now says that 10,000 may be dead?  Am I the only one that realizes this has been said everyday since like, last wed?  Get this, he's guessing and has nomore knowledge then anybody else.  Lets do this, I'll guess 8,000 are dead.  Now you all guess a number and see how many of us are closer to the actual number then he is.

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Heavy

09-07-2005, 12:44 AM

<a href="http://www.roadtechs.com/const/wwwboard/messages/2302.html">http://www.roadtechs.com/const/wwwboard/messages/2302.html</a>That link there is for FEMA inspectors, it just seems odd that they are looking for people to fill these postions as if they didnt even have people working for the company to do the things they exist to do.

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DJEvelEd

09-07-2005, 02:35 AM

6666 dead. Also: 89,974 gallons of diarhea. (butt who's counting?)<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

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Yerdaddy

09-07-2005, 07:49 AM

The subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown & Root Services Inc., won the competitive bid contract last July to provide debris removal and other emergency work associated with natural disastersSee? There WAS planning for disasters by the Bush administration before this. 

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Dirtybird12

09-07-2005, 08:10 AM

it's official - the perrynoid is now a proud employee of FEMA. "My dads got a killer set of tools. I'll fix everything. "

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JimBeam

09-07-2005, 08:30 AM

Wadd thats my bad for not posting a description of the link although I thought I did set it up to open in a new window.How do you rename the link ?I know in the old posting method you could name the link whatever you wanted and then post the actual address behind that.Can you still do that or do you just need to write above/below some txt describing it ?

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Doctor Manhattan

09-07-2005, 08:38 AM

quote: Barbara Bush-Audio via <a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_09_04_atrios_archive.html#112596381619694000">Atrios</a>: *--StartFragment -* "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (she chuckled)--this is working very well for them."...<a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_09_04_atrios_archive.html#112596381619694000">read on</a> " <a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/bb.mp3">Audio</a>-MP3<a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/" target="_self">http://www.crooksandliars.com/</a> It's not much of a chuckle. Does anyone have video of it? If she had a giant grin when she said it then I can see what's the big deal. People like her don't have any idea what it's like to not be super rich. <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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09-07-2005, 09:57 AM

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/curtoid/dc.jpg" border="0" />First group of about 300 arrived in DC yesterday. More should be on the way. Some of the people had no idea the plane was coming to Washington and were naturally a little upset because they were 1000 + miles from their home; they had hoped to go to Texas. Many others were simply glad to be receiving medical attention, good food, and some welcomed comfort from strangers. 

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DJEvelEd

09-07-2005, 01:07 PM

Too bad that Bernie Kerik had that illegal maid that kept him from being confirmed as the Homeland Security Chief. Kerik had great credentials but Chertoff can apparantly kill mo coloreds!This would NOT have been this bad under Kerik. (and I'm a flaming fuckin liberal) And Mayor Fuckface didn't have the wherewithall to hide some swamp buggies with supplies around the city???Our fuckin country STINKS!!!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

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Fantom33

09-07-2005, 01:18 PM

HBox, you were right about that article being suspicious. But I can't help but think that most of the money won't really be converted to something helpful.Look at this one:<a href="http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=KATRINA-MUCK-09-07-05&cat=AN">http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=KATRINA-MUCK-09-07-05&cat=AN</a>Let's see, the most disadvantaged group of people (stragglers) in the in the most disadvantaged situation. Why won't these stubborn people leave? Duh! That's all that's left of what they have! I have a strong feeling that the gov't is gonna use EMINENT DOMAIN to redevelop the disaster areas.

Recyclerz

09-07-2005, 01:23 PM

Just to show that we Bush-haters can be fairminded, sort of, here's a piece from MSNBC/Newsweek that argues there was plenty of corruption in the local and state organizations that were charged with maintaining the levees in New Orleans and vicininty.  (I don't think it proves that lack of maintenance was the proximate cause of the levee failures but that can be argued separately.)  <table class="MsoNormalTable" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="343" border="0"><tr><td width="343"><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9232666/site/newsweek/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9232666/site/newsweek/</a> </td></tr></table>Even stipulating that local negligence was a significant contributing factor to the tragedy in New Orleans,  I argue that W & Co. still deserve a beat down for their piss poor performance in response to the hurricane.  It has been four years since 9/11, and this Regime has made its raison d'etre  protecting Americans from similar calamities and has invested plenty of our tax dollars in building systems to do just that.  Now, when we get a natural catastrophe that simulates an attack on the homeland, except that we get plenty of warning!, the shiny new state of the art systems bumble and stumble and can't get going for several days while our fellow citizens suffer and die. And it isn't just the dysfunction of New Orleans because as Ozzie and others have been pointing out, there was just as much suffering and dieing going on in Mississippi and the other devastated areas and there were no snipers keeping the help out of those places.  Ineptitude was. If this "management team" was just in charge of a private company they would have been fired a long time ago.  Who was the politician who campaigned with the phrase "Results Matter" ?  Oh yeah...  Well, I guess if we're willing to accept bad results over and over again we do have the kind of government we deserve.  

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DJEvelEd

09-07-2005, 01:27 PM

Come to think of it, WHY THE FUCK DID THEY EVEN NEED A HOMELAND SECURITY BEUROCRACY ADDED TO AN ALREADY OVERSIZED GOVERNMENT? CAN WE CLAIM FAILURE YET? WHAT THE FUCK DO THESE ASSHOLES DO ANYWAY???

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Patches

09-07-2005, 01:43 PM

I'm in a bit of an email argument with a hardline conservative friend of mine about the hurricane response.  Since I'm in no position of power and feel I can assign blame wherever the hell I damn well please, this was my final take on the situation.  From reading this thread, most of you will agree with most of this. I completely disagree with 'no one could have foreseen the levees breaking'  Hell I could have told you that: You don't need to be Al Roker to realize that a Cat5 hurricane heading directly for a city below sea level spells trouble.  25 foot storm surges tend to break levees.  But even giving the feds the benefit of the doubt, and assuming a monster hurricane is no match for earthen levees, once they were broken, they should have acted IMMEDIATELY and arrived in force.  NOTHING was done for 24 HOURS.  And where was the VP during all of this?  Right- on vacay.  NOT cut short.  Where was Ms. Rice?  Shoe shopping in NYC I believe.<div />As for Gov. Blanco, she'll be very quick to tell you how the city could not be secured because the National Guard could not enter the city because of the flooding.  Really?  Then why weren't they in place BEFORE the storm hit?  Or was it truly believed that the NOPD (which is a corrupt sham to begin with) would provide enough security?  That makes her either inept or just dumb- either of which is unacceptable.  And between her and that clown mayor who blames everyone but himself, which one thought it would be a bright idea to cram 25,000 into the superdome with as little security as they had? <div />And speaking of Mayor Nagin, why did he not follow his own city's HURRICANE EVACUATION PLAN which calls for city and school buses to get people to the SuperDome?  Those buses sat in place and flooded.  I understand how some people may not have the means to evacuate, but the city had a goddamn plan in place to account for that and it was NEVER FOLLOWED.I agree, this is a natural disaster which could not have been prevented.  However this doomsday scenario has been predicted for YEARS, and it WAS FORESEEN.  What transpired after Katrina is a national shame.<div /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/bcqueens/pj2.jpg" border="0" />

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mdr55

09-07-2005, 02:37 PM

My co-worker who also is also a fireman got his papers today from FEMA
to go to the Big Easy. He has to supply his own stuff (sleeping bag and
things), work basically 7 days a week and kinda live off the land. I
wish him luck. He told me one of his other friends who went there last
week got bite by a snake and had to come back. That's just crazy.

Bulldogcakes

09-07-2005, 03:36 PM

quote:It's simply not true that the Federal
government couldn't move til they got replies from the state. According
to the government's <a href="http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/4/171811/1974">own National Response Plan</a>, the Federal government can supercede the state in times of emergency, defined as: "any
natural or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in
extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely
affecting the population, infrastructure, environment, economy,
national morale, and/or government functions." In these cases, the Feds' "...primary
mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property,
and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national security." and "Notification
and full coordination with States will occur, but the coordination
process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use of
critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with
local governments regarding a proactive Federal response." They didn't have to wait for the state... 
 Not
true. First of all,
ONLY A
Governor (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng.htm) can call in the National Guard or employ any troops in
the US. The President does not have that authority.  the governor serves as commander-in-chief of the NG in his state or
territory and exercises command through the state adjutant general
(TAG). While serving in state status, the NG provides military support
to civil authorities, including law enforcement, in accordance with
state law. The Feds could have declared Marshall Law, they could have invoked the Insurrection Act. But those are all LAST RESORTS. First you try to work with local authorities, and if that fails then you go to plan B. Plus,
any such action by the Feds would likely be opposed by the State, and
the Supreme Court would have to sort it out. No way to run a rescue
operation. States are urged to notify and coordinate with
local governments regarding a proactive Federal response Or
else. . . . what? Sure they want everyone to play nice. And if they
dont then what? They'll "URGE" some more? Your post doesn't say
anything as to who's in charge, chain of command, Legal statutes
granting authority, etc. Doesn't disprove anything I've said. 


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A.J.

09-07-2005, 10:42 PM

quote: Come to think of it, WHY THE FUCK DID THEY EVEN NEED A HOMELAND SECURITY BEUROCRACY ADDED TO AN ALREADY OVERSIZED GOVERNMENT? CAN WE CLAIM FAILURE YET? WHAT THE FUCK DO THESE ASSHOLES DO ANYWAY???Come to think of it, WHY THE FUCK DID THEY EVEN NEED A HOMELAND SECURITY BEUROCRACY ADDED TO AN ALREADY OVERSIZED GOVERNMENT? CAN WE CLAIM FAILURE YET? WHAT THE  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" />Wait until the next terror attack in America.  You'll be able to say the same thing about the Director of National Intelligence. 

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09-07-2005, 11:56 PM

quote: it's official - the perrynoid is now a proud employee of FEMA. "My dads got a killer set of tools. I'll fix everything. "<a href="http://www.live365.com/stations/ufo_radio?play/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/itsigpic.jpg" border="0" /></a> You’ll sell it to your children, you’ll sell it to your wife. Buying is your business, and selling is your life,  You mean, you answered this add?<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/snowmaninva66/FEMAwork8.jpg" border="0" />If it was "under the table" I'd do it!!! 

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Dirtybird12

09-08-2005, 04:59 AM

yeah. Started today. 12 hour shifts - 7 days / week. ....no time for fake radio <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/blink.gif" border="0" />So there was about 40 - 50 of us.  In the middle of training, we were told to leave because we were not finger printed. The team leader blamed Homeland Security for this misunderstanding."FEMA is now being run by Homeland Security - They dropped the ball - not us"Back to normal tomorrow  at 6am - jumps to $17.50 hr after training. & time & half after 40 hrs week.Since we will be working 7 days a week/ 12 hrs/day = plenty of overtime !I was driving down the road, saw that sign, thought I'd hang the fake microphone  up for a while and help / do something good..,.and get paid.Cool people there tho. The fuck up is ok. We still get paid for today.  

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curtoid

09-08-2005, 08:43 AM

I wish all of the assholes investing so much time spinning how they aren't at fault spent that much energy preparing and responding to this like they should. Once more, everyone was on message, throwing out the same story, excuses, directions fingers should be pointed. All of them lamenting people playing "The Blame Game," while they do it themselves, in the name of being defensive and troubled.As a funny man said last night on television, the only ones who don't want to play that game, are the ones to blame. 

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mdr55

09-08-2005, 02:04 PM

quote:yeah. Started today. 12 hour shifts - 7 days / week. ....no time for fake radio <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/blink.gif" />So
there was about 40 - 50 of us. In the middle of training, we were told
to leave because we were not finger printed. The team leader blamed
Homeland Security for this misunderstanding."FEMA is now being run by Homeland Security - They dropped the ball - not us"Back to normal tomorrow at 6am - jumps to $17.50 hr after training. & time & half after 40 hrs week.Since we will be working 7 days a week/ 12 hrs/day = plenty of overtime !I was driving down the road, saw that sign, thought I'd hang the fake microphone up for a while and help / do something good..,.and get paid.Cool people there tho. The fuck up is ok. We still get paid for today. 

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Buying is your business, and selling is your life, Begin your response here...   Dude...you're getting ripped. I read my friend's FEMA papers and he's going to get paid $22.70 and over time is like $30!

DJEvelEd

09-08-2005, 02:15 PM

Don't they have Mexicans down there @ 5.00 per hour? They're used to swimming in Fæces too!(present company included of course) <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

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Dirtybird12

09-08-2005, 02:24 PM

What location is your friend at?  What will he/she be doing for FEMA? that IS good money! I don't consider myself being ripped tho. 

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mdr55

09-08-2005, 02:43 PM

He's not down there yet. He'll know on friday when his fire chief tells
him when he'll leave for there. Don't forget to bring your own sleeping
bag.

PapaBear

09-08-2005, 09:44 PM

Perry's not getting ripped off. From what I understand, the FEMA openings in Winchester, are for phone work. $17.50+ overtime to work on the phone is pretty damn good! These jobs (again, from what I understand) involve helping people with aid claims over the phone. They still get to help people, and don't need to wade in feces. I should have mentioned in the first post, that FEMA has a major headquarters located here (as does the Army Corps of Engineers).

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Heavy

09-08-2005, 11:57 PM

Everybody hold up for a minute, I have major news.  As of 3:46am Fox news is reporting that the Mayor of New Orleans is now claiming that up to 10,000 people maybe be dead in the city.  This is heartbreaking news thats just breaking now so theres no link yet, but trust me on this.

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Mike Teacher

09-09-2005, 02:29 AM

Um... theyve been saying that for the last few days. At least.

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DJEvelEd

09-09-2005, 02:38 AM

Breaking News: Bush may name a "Hurricane Czar"? Let's creats even MORE beurocracy!!! WHAT A COMPLETE AND TOTAL ASSFUCK!!! (CNN)

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Furtherman

09-09-2005, 07:49 AM

<a href="http://www.flashnews.com/news/wfn1050908J5463.html" target="_blank">Weatherman Claims Japanese Mafia Behind Hurricane Katrina</a> "At least ten nations and organizations possess the technology but Stevens suspects the Japanese Yakuza created Katrina in order to make a fortune in the futures market and to get even with the U.S. for the 1945 bombing of Hiroshima."Of course!  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/laugh.gif" border="0" /><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/09-09-2005/news/gossip/story/344694p-294285c.html" target="_blank">Destination's wrong on 'The Price Is Right'</a> (middle of the page)"You and a guest will fly round-trip coach from Los Angeles to New Orleans for a six-night stay at the Renaissance Pere Marquette Hotel, within walking distance to the French Quarter," the announcer boomed as host Bob Barker and contestants Shannan and Jeri Sue stood listening onstage."Oh Bob!  

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JimBeam

09-09-2005, 07:58 AM

There was an ad in the latest Stuff about a trip/concert in New Orleans at the end of September.I think they'll be rescheduling.

I have balls !!!

Furtherman

09-09-2005, 09:12 AM

As Popeye would say.. "How embarraskin' aga ga ga ga"<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050908/wl_canada_nm/canada_canadians_neworelans_col;_ylt=ArbEKzdX_o77A 5VP7sS23P8DW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPU CUl" target="_blank">Canadians beat U.S. Army to New Orleans suburb</a> BATON ROUGE, Louisiana (Reuters) - A Canadian search-and-rescue team reached a flooded New Orleans suburb to help save trapped residents five days before the U.S. military, a Louisiana state senator said on Wednesday. <div class="lrec">The Canadians beat both the Army and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the U.S. disaster response department, to St. Bernard Parish east of New Orleans, where flood waters are still 8 feet deep in places, Sen. Walter Boasso said.</div>

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JimBeam

09-09-2005, 09:33 AM

Maybe they did, but they stil dont know the difference between bacon and bologna.

I have balls !!!

Patches

09-09-2005, 09:37 AM

Just heard on the radio, and its on cnn.com, but no story yet, just 'breaking news'Michael Brown, YOU'RE FIRED!!Ok, maybe this shit head isn't fired but he's kicked out of the Big Easy and sent home to Washington.  Good for him.  Unfortunately an asshole nearly as big is taking over, Chertoff.

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Furtherman

09-09-2005, 09:44 AM

But I thought Bush said "You're doing a heck of job, Brownie!"Brownie!  They're buddies... right?

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INFOSTUD

09-09-2005, 11:18 AM

Does anyone know of a website that has a Katirna Timeline of critical
events in this disaster and when each event happened.  Such as
when the leeves broke, when the National Guard finally arrived. 

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Furtherman

09-09-2005, 11:45 AM

quote: Such as when the leeves broke That dam bad. 

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Dirtybird12

09-09-2005, 11:58 AM

Our training  has been cut from 3 days to 1.  Today we trained from 6 am - 2:30.95% of the callers - WE are the first human contact victims will have as they begin the process of recovering... Imagine? Your life has been turned upside down & the first voice you hear on the phone is a mock jock? spooky.We are not going to New Orleans. We ARE working 12 - 13 hour shifts. 12 days on - 1 day off. 3:30am - 4pm  (12 days in a row) off 1 day.... come back - work 4pm - 3:30am ....off one day -  we are  registering victims who are seeking assistance thru FEMA. Heartbreaking calls. This world is a lot different than fake radioland. FEMA director (name escapes me) was busted for lying on his bio. Pulled out of N.O.  & thrown behind a desk. FEMA is catching hell from all sides. Rumor is they will be divorcing Homeland Security soon..Im sleepy - I want some chicken & a pillow. bye<a href="http://www.live365.com/stations/ufo_radio?play/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/itsigpic.jpg" border="0" /></a> You’ll sell it to your children, you’ll sell it to your wife. Buying is your business, and selling is your life,

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Bulldogcakes

09-09-2005, 05:32 PM

On the flooded streets of New Orleans you
can hear the dogs barking for miles. They are trapped -- in houses, on
roofs, tied to porches. They are frightened and hungry. (http://cnn.worldnews.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=CNN.com+-+Pet+rescuers+race+against+time+-+Sep+9%2C+2005&expire=-1&urlID=15471071&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com %2F2005%2FUS%2F09%2F08%2Fpet.rescue%2Findex.html&p artnerID=2006)At the Lamar Dixon Center in Gonzalez, Louisiana, 50 miles north of New
Orleans, hundreds of people come every day looking for their pets.  Just
adds to the sense of loss and tragedy of the whole situation. People
have lost Mothers, Fathers, brothers and sisters, and now add to the
list their best friends.  

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HBox

09-09-2005, 05:46 PM

<a href="http://washtimes.com/upi/20050908-112433-4907r.htm" target="_blank">Remember
that video with Shepard Smith and Geraldo where they were talking about
how people couldn't leave New Orleans because a bridge was blocked off?
It turns out that blockade was pretty much because of flat out racism.</a> 

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booster11373

09-09-2005, 05:57 PM

apparently there were 2000-3000 registered sex offenders at the Superdome while it was used as a shelter.

JUST SAY NO.....to pimping

DJEvelEd

09-11-2005, 06:05 AM

NFL on ESPN just showed a commercial with all the cars with NFL stuff on them. An 18 wheeler had a Houston Texans mudflap. A blue car had a Detroit Lions sticker on the rear windshield. If I'm not mistaken, a busted vehicle covered in mud had New Orleans Saints written in the mud on the rear window.Funny?I guess.... but kinda risque for the NFL or ESPN... I never knew they were so shocking...

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mdr55

09-11-2005, 07:37 AM

How long before we see the "I survived Hurricane Katrina" on e-bay?

ozzie

09-11-2005, 01:40 PM

I forget what exactly I was looking for, but I stumbed upon a couple of items after Hurricane Ivan down here that people in this area were trying to sell.One guy had an empty jar... err, excuse me, as he described it, "ACTUAL WIND FROM THE EYE OF HURRICANE IVAN"Someone was selling shingles that were blown off of his roof during the storm, someone else had boxes of "Actual leaves and Debris", and another had ziplock bags of "Actual Gulf of Mexico Sand found in my backyard!", and pictures to show how far he lived from the beach.  I think he had 500 available, and you could "Buy it Now!".I think I was on there looking for "Pre-Storm" items from the old Flora-Bama lounge that was leveled when I realized how many "Post-Storm" items were already listed.  They were digging out liquor bottles and t-shirts from that place hundreds of yards away.

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ozzie

09-11-2005, 02:11 PM

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/HURRICANE-KATRINA-ACTUAL-PIECE-OF-TREE-FROM-MY-YARD_W0QQitemZ7710962323QQcategoryZ208QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem" target="_blank">ACTUAL PIECE OF TREE FROM MY YARD</a><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-Relief-Bush-sucks-Iraq-t-shirt-LG_W0QQitemZ8332964890QQcategoryZ28022QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem" target="_blank">"KATRINA BLOWS, BUSH SUCKS" T-Shirt</a><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/FEMA-SURVIVOR-T-SHIRT-hurricane-katrina-new-orleans_W0QQitemZ8334051831QQcategoryZ28022QQtcZph otoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">"FEMA SURVIVOR" T-Shirt</a><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-Souvenirs-Exploiting-my-loss_W0QQitemZ5614031935QQcategoryZ88433QQtcZphoto QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">"</a><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-Souvenirs-Exploiting-my-loss_W0QQitemZ5614031935QQcategoryZ88433QQtcZphoto QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Each PURCHASE will include a pine cone and branch, magnolia leaf and wood from the century old oak that once provided shade to a peaceful garden"...</a> Hurry, only 44 available<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/CAN-OF-COCA-COLA-SURVIVED-HURRICANE-KATRINA_W0QQitemZ7181402161QQcategoryZ13604QQtcZph otoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">CAN OF COCA-COLA SURVIVED HURRICANE KATRINA</a><img height="299" src="http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/e5/77/22_1_b.JPG" width="400" border="0" /><h1 class="itemTitle"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Rock-of-Remembrance-HURRICANE-KATRINA_W0QQitemZ5613565323QQcategoryZ1468QQtcZpho toQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">"Rock of Remembrance".......HURRICANE KATRINA</a></h1><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Rock-of-Remembrance-HURRICANE-KATRINA_W0QQitemZ5613565323QQcategoryZ1468QQtcZpho toQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Actual shape of the state of Louisiana.... A MUST BUY!!</a>With the recent tragedy of Hurricane Katrina, this rock means something.  I found it the day after the Hurricane hit the coast of Louisiana.  I was walking outside thinking about how bad I feel for all the family's who live there and are affected by this unfortunate event.  When I stumbled accross this cool unique rock I thought...oh its just a cool rock, then when I flipped it over, I saw the shape of Louisiana and I couldn't believe my eyes. Then after looking closer at the rock, below the state of Louisiana, there is also a shape that looks almost identical to a hurricane....it's truly amazing! This is a one of a kind rock that was formed by this earth and I believe it's a gift from God and that someone out there could really find this rock sentimental or even would love to have it as a collectible, so here it is......I offer 1 lucky bidder a "Rock of Remembrance".............Thanks and HAPPY BIDDING.<img height="400" src="http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/df/f8/65_1_b.JPG" width="400" border="0" /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Outrageous-Hurricane-Katrina-Ringer-T-shirt-with-Style_W0QQitemZ8332988194QQcategoryZ15687QQtcZphot oQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_self">19 of these babies available!</a>  <img height="300" src="http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/e5/3a/e0_1_b.JPG" width="400" border="0" /><h1 class="itemTitle"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/14-Trampoline-thats-been-through-Hurricane-KATRINA_W0QQitemZ5614558510QQcategoryZ88433QQtcZph otoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_self">14' Trampoline thats been through Hurricane KATRINA</a></h1>Of course most of the listings have nothing to do with the Hurricane...<img height="500" src="http://i13.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/d5/c3/bc_12_b.JPG" width="333" border="0" /><a href="http://www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=8516ZOaob&i=137"></a><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Stripper-Pole-Dance-Dancing-Chrome-Hurricane-Katrina_W0QQitemZ

ozzie

09-11-2005, 07:17 PM

quote: How long before we see the "I survived Hurricane Katrina" on e-bay? <img height="329" src="http://i12.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/eb/be/17_1_b.JPG" width="400" border="0" /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-T-shirt-Gulf-Survived-by-Relief-Tees_W0QQitemZ8333894676QQcategoryZ15687QQtcZphoto QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">198 available</a>

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ozzie

09-11-2005, 07:22 PM

<img height="348" src="http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/d7/b5/91_1_b.JPG" width="400" border="0" /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-T-shirt-Kanye-West-George-Bush-A2H_W0QQitemZ8331862844QQcategoryZ15687QQtcZphotoQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Honor the words of wisdom spoken by Kanye West on Friday September 2, 2005 on NBC's "A Concert for Hurricane Relief" charity auction for the benefit for the victims of Hurricane Katrina</a>

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mdr55

09-11-2005, 07:26 PM

How bout a Mama Bush shirt?

O&AVIRUS&MORE

09-11-2005, 07:41 PM

quote:<img width="400" height="348" border="0" src="http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/d7/b5/91_1_b.JPG" /><a target="_blank" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-T-shirt-Kanye-West-George-Bush-A2H_W0QQitemZ8331862844QQcategoryZ15687QQtcZphotoQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">Honor
the words of wisdom spoken by Kanye West on Friday September 2, 2005 on
NBC's "A Concert for Hurricane Relief" charity auction for the benefit
for the victims of Hurricane Katrina</a>        AND 
NEITHER 
DO 
I 
GIVE 
A 
SHIT 
ABOUT 
THOSE 
FUCKING 
AIDS 
INFECTED 
PIGMENTLY 
CHALANGED 
RETARDS 


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booster11373

09-11-2005, 07:43 PM

This is pretty amazing, these are pics from a person who lives in NO and took about 4-5 days worth of pics. You see some cool before the hurricane and after shots as well as before and during the flooding, this person has a pretty good story and is worth the read.SPOILER in inviso text just highlight to read if you want to, (THEY STEAL A TRUCK TO GET OUT ,,,,,.//OF NO) sorry the link changed and i dont have the replacementJUST SAY NO.....to pimping

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HBox

09-11-2005, 07:44 PM

Yeah, you'll last here a while with talk like that. 

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Knowledged_one

09-12-2005, 07:03 AM

according to Micheal Moore - Bush isn't the only one responsible for the damage its actually the people who voted for Geroge Bush are the ones to blameSo now the fault is with me i guess

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badorties

09-12-2005, 07:14 AM

oops ... i'll just blame that on bush and his voters too .<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=badorties" border="0" />

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badorties

09-12-2005, 07:14 AM

So now the fault is with me i guessthems the breaks ...AND NEITHER DO I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THOSE FUCKING AIDS INFECTED PIGMENTLY CHALANGED RETARDS what ...?

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Furtherman

09-12-2005, 07:32 AM

You can't really blame him too much, after all, he is doing the job that his wealthiest, neoconservative supporters carefully placed him in.  He's protecting their interests.  His base is secure.  It's most sucessful business he's run yet. 

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sr71blackbird

09-12-2005, 04:05 PM

<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/hurricanes_and_tropical_storms" target="_blank">Dozens found dead in a flooded out nursing home..</a> UnFUCKINGbelievable how embarresing this is, and how this can happen in the USA shines the light on how hopelessly inept we are, and I am sure the terrorists are taking notes and laughing.The people in the hospital were in wheelchairs and in beds.  No one thought about them? How could this happen?  

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A.J.

09-12-2005, 09:14 PM

Why is it that when an election is coming up, transportation is provided for the poor and infirmed to get to the polling places?  The same resources couldn't have been utilized to help evacuate those who couldn't get out of the city?

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The Jays

09-12-2005, 09:44 PM

Because voting is the only time transportation should be provided. You gotta see it from their perspective. Now this make the need for transportation at election time even more as important, to vote those fuckers out! 

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Furtherman

09-13-2005, 08:19 AM

From CNN.com: Breaking News: President Bush says he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.  Details soon. Can't wait to see those details.  Could it be?<img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=7" border="0" /> 

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Furtherman

09-13-2005, 08:28 AM

<h1>Bush Takes Responsibility for Failures in Storm Response</h1> WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush said Tuesday that ''I take responsibility'' for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina and said the disaster raised broader questions about the government's ability to respond to natural disasters as well as terror attacks.''Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government,'' Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.''To the extent the federal government didn't fully do it's job right, I take responsibility,'' Bush said.The president was asked whether people should be worried about the government's ability to handle another terrorist attack given failures in responding to Katrina. I wonder if the president of Iraq was able to stand there with a straight face.<div /><img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=7" border="0" />

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Doctor Manhattan

09-13-2005, 08:41 AM

Wow.George W Bush?That is actually a good thing he's doing, trying to stop the "blame game" I'll wait to see if there is an catch, but it sounds very good on his part.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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Patches

09-13-2005, 08:47 AM

Is this like one of those bugs bunny things?IT'S YOUR FAULT!NO IT'S NOTYES IT ISNO ITS NOTYES IT ISYES IT ISNO IT'S NOT- HEY WAIT!!!

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09-13-2005, 11:49 AM

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HBox

09-13-2005, 04:36 PM

Amazing. And it's telling that him admitting he did
something wrong is a major breaking news story. 

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The Jays

09-13-2005, 04:43 PM

there's like a two week lag over at the White House. 

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Hottub

09-13-2005, 04:51 PM

<a href="http://www.silentpix.com/images/frontpage2/bush_vacation.jpg" target="_blank">Insensitive. CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK!</a>

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Bulldogcakes

09-13-2005, 04:57 PM

quote:Why
is it that when an election is coming up, transportation is provided
for the poor and infirmed to get to the polling places? The same
resources couldn't have been utilized to help evacuate those who
couldn't get out of the city?Just
goes to show if you spend your life waiting for Government to take care
of you, you will lead a miserable life of disappointment.  Rule #1 Politicians care about getting themselves re-elected. Rule #2 Everything else they say they care about is only said to further rule #1 

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FUNKMAN

09-13-2005, 05:07 PM

Just goes to show if you spend your life waiting for Government to take care of you, you will lead a miserable life of disappointment.   Rule #1 Politicians care about getting themselves re-elected. Rule #2 Everything else they say they care about is only said to further rule #1 iraqis can't wait to get this system in place, oh boy!

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09-14-2005, 05:41 PM

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By The Associated Press 

Prior to Hurricane Katrina, the nation's 10 deadliest natural 




disasters. 




 1. Galveston (Texas) Hurricane, 1900, estimated 8,000 deaths 
 2. Great Okeechobee Hurricane in Florida, 1928, estimated 2,500-plus 
 3. Johnstown, Pa., Flood, 1889, estimated 2,200-plus 
 4. Louisiana Hurricane, 1893, 2,000-plus 
 5. South Carolina-Georgia Hurricane, 1893, 1,000-2,000 
 6. Great New England Hurricane, 1938, 720 
 7. San Francisco Earthquake, 1906, 700 
 8. Georgia-South Carolina Hurricane, 1881, 700 
 9. Tri-State Tornado in Missouri, Illinois and Indiana, 1925, 695 
 10. Labor Day Hurricane that hit the Florida Keys, 1935, 405 
 ___ 
 Source: Rusty Pfost, meteorologist with the National Weather Service. 
 

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Doctor Manhattan

09-15-2005, 10:11 AM

W's Mom chuckled at the victims and now <a href="http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/100905wife.htm" target="_blank">W's wife doesn't know the hurricane's name</a>!! Video is also available <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/09.html" target="_blank">here</a> (scroll down to find Laura Bush post) <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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Frosty_Sacknuts

09-16-2005, 01:23 PM

Seems to be a few fires burnin down there.  People still grillen in there homes and burning them down i guess.

Thanks,

Frosty_Sacknuts

Bulldogcakes

09-18-2005, 05:41 AM

What
a suprise, corruption in Louisiana (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-money17sep17,1,5736422.story?coll=la-headlines-nation)
<h1>Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit</h1>
 

WASHINGTON — Senior officials in Louisiana's emergency planning agency
already were awaiting trial over allegations stemming from a federal
investigation into waste, mismanagement and missing funds when
Hurricane Katrina struck. 

 
And federal auditors are still trying to track as much as $60
million in unaccounted for funds that were funneled to the state from
the Federal Emergency Management Agency dating back to 1998.
 
 
Bush should be REAL careful about spending 200 billion down there.   

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Bulldogcakes

09-20-2005, 01:42 PM

Hurricane Katrina, the Drink (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0920051katrina1.html) 
SEPTEMBER 20--With dead bodies still floating in the streets of New
Orleans, a pair of Louisiana lawyers are seeking to cash in on the
killer hurricane by slapping the name Katrina on alcoholic beverages.
In a new filing with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, Andrew
Vicknair and Harold Ehrenberg provided federal officials with a
logo--reproduced above--bearing the word Katrina, the phrase "Get Blown
Away," and a small satellite image of the deadly storm. The trademark
application was filed on September 4, just six days after the hurricane
slammed into the Gulf Coast, killing more than 1000 residents and
leaving thousands homeless. The filing by Vicknair, 31, and the
47-year-old Ehrenberg  Gotta love Lawyers.  

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Furtherman

09-20-2005, 01:58 PM

How about this for eerie?<a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html" target="_blank">Popular Mechanics article New Orleans Is Sinking</a>Check out when it was published.

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Furtherman

09-22-2005, 06:45 AM

Utah is so scared... of black people.From Page Six NY Post today:RABBI Shmuley Boteach claims a Utah radio station canned him because he urged black Katrina evacuees to relocate permanently in lily-white Utah. The rabbi's popular talk show was pulled by KUTR 820 brass just hours after he urged his listeners to embrace the hundreds of Katrina refugees staying at Camp Williams, a National Guard base near Salt Lake City. "This is bigotry pure and simple. The station simply didn't want me telling black people to move to Utah. To give you an idea, this was the most popular show on the entire station by an order of magnitude, and because I called on people in Utah to welcome black people into their communities, it was immediately canceled," Boteach tells PAGE SIX's Fernando Gil. During his Sept. 9 broadcast, the politically conservative Boteach announced an upcoming event in Salt Lake City at which listeners could welcome displaced refugees in person and help them settle down in Utah, the state with the smallest percentage of blacks. "The response was great. We had people offering to take evacuees to Brigham Young University football games, Realtors offering to show them homes. I was shocked when [station programming director] Rod Arquette called me after the show and told me that the station was canceling my plane ticket and hotel room, and that I was permanently off the air." Boteach had been at KUTR-AM, which is run by Mormon Church-owned Bonneville International, since the station went on the air five months ago. He conducted his weekday show from his New Jersey home, and was planning to fly to Utah for the Katrina event. Boteach says Arquette initially told him he'd been fired for announcing the benefit without approval from the station. "That's even more ridiculous," Boteach said. "When they realized how bad it made them look, they changed their story and said I'd been fired for programming concerns." The rabbi produced an Aug. 30 e-mail from Arquette offering to renew Boteach's contract and calling him an "important talent." Arquette tells PAGE SIX: "Schmuley is bright and compelling, but he didn't fit with what we were trying to do on the station. It was a programming decision." Former Ku Klux Klan member David Duke blasted Boteach on his Web site: "As for you, Rabbi Shmuley, you should get the hell out of Utah. Go preach your destructive policies to the only nation to which you are loyal: Israel." Boteach replied: "I will debate him whenever he wants. David Duke is an American abomination."

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10-12-2005, 12:55 PM

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12-30-2005, 04:11 PM

<a target="blank" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-12-30-evacuee-offenders_x.htm">Authorities urge states to find 2,000 evacuee sex offenders</a> quote: WASHINGTON (AP) — Governors in states that
accepted Katrina evacuees are being urged to locate about 2,000
registered sex offenders who fled the Gulf region during the
hurricane's mayhem and may have vanished from legally required
tracking.

"When sex offenders know they're being watched,
when they know they're being monitored, they are less likely to offend
again," said Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families
at the Department of Health and Human Services. "When they no longer
believe they are being monitored or watched, they can be tempted to
offend again." 
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Yerdaddy

01-30-2006, 02:42 AM

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/29/AR2006012900786.html" target="_blank">Interior Offered Extensive Katrina Aid FEMA Ignored Proposals or Didn't Use Resources Effectively, Department Says</a>Hundreds of federal search-and-rescue workers and large numbers of boats, aircraft and bulldozers were offered to FEMA in the hours immediately after Hurricane Katrina hit, but the aid proposals were either ignored or not effectively used, newly released documents show.The Interior Department, which made the offers, also proposed dispatching as many as 400 of its law enforcement officers to provide security in Gulf Coast cities ravaged by flooding and looting. But nearly a month would pass before the Federal Emergency Management Agency put the officers to work, according to an Interior document obtained by The Washington Post.

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Furtherman

03-02-2006, 06:16 AM

Well, thank you Associated Press.  They have confirmed with video what was obvious.  Now here we have proof of Bush being an idiot.  - Bush declared four days after the storm, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" that gushed deadly flood waters into New Orleans. He later clarified, saying officials believed, wrongly, after the storm passed that the levees had survived. But the transcripts and video show there was plenty of talk about that possibility even before the storm - and Bush was worried too. Yes, there were failure on all levels of government with this one.  But it just goes to show he has looked at the American people and lied.  Again.<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/02/fema.tapes/index.html" target="_blank">Transcripts, tape show Bush, Brown warned on Katrina</a>

cupcakelove

03-02-2006, 06:20 AM

Furtherman wrote: 
But it just goes to show he has looked at the American people and lied. Again.
And nothing will happen because of it.  Again.  Too bad he
wasn't lying about getting a blow job.  For some reason that
upsets people.

angrymissy

03-02-2006, 07:08 AM

I just don't understand how he can get away with blatantly lying over and over.  Now it actually looks like Brown was trying his best to get everyone prepared for Katrina, and he took the fall for Bush.

Furtherman

03-02-2006, 09:58 AM

If you heard the last caller on today's show... that is the problem.Ronnie said it... "I know you voted for the guy and you love him..."Love is blind to these people.Here is undisputed PROOF.  Yet, these excuses come out of nowhere...  somehow, we still have a good president in the white house.It's sickening.

Bulldogcakes

03-02-2006, 04:01 PM

Furtherman wrote: If you heard the last caller on today's show... that is the problem.Ronnie said it... "I know you voted for the guy and you love him..."Love is blind to these people.Here is undisputed PROOF. Yet, these excuses come out of nowhere... somehow, we still have a good president in the white house.It's sickening. What the fuck are you talking about? He has a 34% approval rating. One of the lowest in history. That includes alot of people who voted for him, and alot of republicans. If you think you'll ever get EVERYONE to agree on politics, you're in Disneyland. Nixon had a 25% approval rating the day he resigned. That's a quarter of the country that thought he was still doing a good job. Get used to it. .  <blockquote />

WRESTLINGFAN

03-02-2006, 06:00 PM

this is getting quite interesting<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_video_37;_ylt=Ah76EHjELSjOQXMJj0aNZ1cbLisB ;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_video_37;_ylt=Ah76EHjELSjOQXMJj0aNZ1cbLisB ;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl</a>

Doctor Manhattan

03-03-2006, 10:23 AM

This 2nd video doesn't get Bush out of trouble. He liedBush declared four days after the storm, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"The 1st video had people anticipating the breach of the levees, the second had people thinking they hold hold. Bush still lied.Does anyone have a link to download that first video?

Bulldogcakes

03-03-2006, 04:01 PM

<a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm" target="_self" title="Try again Bush haters">Try again Bush haters</a> 

AP FRIDAY NIGHT CLARIFICATION ON BUSH/KATRINA VIDEO 
Fri Mar 03 2006 19:48:29 ET
 

Clarification: Katrina-Video story 

ASSOCIATED PRESS 
WASHINGTON (AP) _ In a March 1 story, The Associated Press reported
that federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his homeland
security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could
breach levees in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an
Aug. 28 briefing among U.S. officials.
 The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole
developing in a levee rather than an overrun. The story should have
made clear that Bush was warned about floodwaters overrunning the
levees, rather than the levees breaking. 
The day before the storm hit, Bush was told there were grave concerns
that the levees could be overrun. It wasn't until the next morning, as
the storm was hitting, that Michael Brown, then head of the Federal
Emergency Management Agency, said Bush had inquired about reports of
breaches. Bush did not participate in that briefing. "Well, we all KNOW he lied, we just dont have any proof!"  I cant wait till this incompetant is out of office so I can stop having to defend him. Which in all honesty, I'd rather not do.