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MrPink
09-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Maybe I don't hate children, but I hate all the trouble they cause. I just noticed I have to pay taxes so that some snot nosed kid who doesn't want to go to school has to. I have been doing my part to keep from making kids, but I have to pay for other peoples mistakes. Pay for your own damn kids to go to school and let me keep my money so I can buy cigarettes and hookers. They're also too fuckin loud. We should have kids only water fountains and bathrooms. Vote for me for president!

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
09-09-2005, 09:04 PM
<p>It's part of life. </p><p>I won't be having kids and yet I have to pay for them. Go figure!</p>

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09-09-2005, 09:08 PM
<font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>&nbsp;Vote for me for president! <br />
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09-09-2005, 09:12 PM
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MrPink
09-09-2005, 09:13 PM
<p></p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>&nbsp;Vote for me for president! <br /><p>My vote goes to Liddy_fan . . he's the best</p><p>I'll still be president, 2 years ago my English teacher told me I will.</p>

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A.J.
09-09-2005, 09:14 PM
<p>I feel as you do, but then I take comfort in the fact that paying for other people's kids is still cheaper than having to pay for my own.</p><p>My co-worker has 4 daughters. That's 4 college educations AND 4 weddings he has to pay for.&nbsp; Poor bastard...</p>

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09-09-2005, 09:14 PM
<p><em>Children are the future ~</em> Randy Watson&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Fuck the future man.</p>

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mikeyboy
09-09-2005, 09:17 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><em>Children are the future ~</em> Randy Watson&nbsp;&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Fuck the future man.</p>Do NOT diss Sexual Chocolate!<br />

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09-09-2005, 09:21 PM
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09-09-2005, 09:23 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><em>Children are the future ~</em> Randy Watson&nbsp;&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Fuck the future man.</p>Do NOT diss Sexual Chocolate!<br /><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /><br /><a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm" target="blank">Ron &amp; Fez Show Log</a>; Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil<br /><a href="http://www.radiobbq.net/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm</a><br />Now with new <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem &quot;That boy got TALENT!&quot;<br />

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09-09-2005, 09:23 PM
<p><img height="192" src="http://www.repubblica.it/2005/a/sezioni/spettacoli_e_cultura/procejackson/procejackson/reut_5747415_31060.jpg" width="200" border="0" /></p><p>Why would I fuck with children, they're too small.</p>

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
09-09-2005, 09:57 PM
<p>I take comfort in the fact that paying for other people's kids is still cheaper than having to pay for my own.</p><p>I want to put that on a really long bumbersticker.</p>

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Papa_Burgundy
09-09-2005, 10:51 PM
<p>to kinda put it in perspective...</p><p>i don't have kids, although i love the practice of making them.</p><p>but the people in power, whether it be the government, big corporations, take your pick...</p><p>they want you to not care about anyone but yourself.&nbsp; they don't want you to actually care about your neighbor, or kids that aren't yours, or people you don't know.</p><p>if we started doing that then we could join together and start to make real change.&nbsp; but they won't let that happen, and not caring about other people will continue their efforts.</p><p>i don't have kids, but i'll pay for them to go to school and whatnot because i do love humans, regardless of thier flaws and how much they might not have any affect in my life.</p><p>did i just get too intense?&nbsp; sorry, i'll stick to my anchorman jokes.&nbsp; how now brown cow</p>

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WhistlePig
09-09-2005, 10:55 PM
I hate the fact that my tax dollars go to schools and shit when I don't have kids--in fact, I think you should be able to direct your tax dollars to where you want. I'd be more than willing to pay my huge share of taxes--maybe even more--if I got to pick where my dollars went. Parents can direct their dollars to schools. I'll direct mine to animal shelters and shit I feel worthy.


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cherrynoid
09-09-2005, 11:01 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>I just
noticed I have to pay taxes so that some snot nosed kid who doesn't
want to go to school has to. I have been doing my part to keep from
making kids, but I have to pay for other peoples mistakes. Pay for your
own damn kids to go to school and let me keep my money so I can buy
cigarettes and hookers.&nbsp;<br />And who paid for YOUR education?&nbsp; Maybe it was me.&nbsp; Your turn to foot the bill.&nbsp; My kids thank you.<br />
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>If you want, I can send you a picture like they do in those &quot;save the children&quot; things.</p><p>&nbsp;<br />
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MrPink
09-09-2005, 11:08 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font size="1">And who paid for YOUR education?&nbsp; Maybe it was me.&nbsp; Your turn to foot the bill.&nbsp; My kids thank you.</font><br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My parents&nbsp;actually saved their hard earned money so they could send me to a private school. They went without alot of the luxuries that people who say they can't afford school usually have. &nbsp;</p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/Catholiccannon/RFnetMrPink.jpg" border="0" /> George Bush doesn't care about black people.

<font color=black>This message was edited by MrPink on 9-10-05 @ 3:10 AM</font>

PapaBear
09-09-2005, 11:15 PM
This is such a stupid damn argument. Show me a country that doesn't have public education, that isn't third world. Stop being bitter about paying for other people's children. There isn't a single good argument against public education.

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MrPink
09-09-2005, 11:21 PM
<p><font size="1">This is such a stupid damn argument. Show me a country that doesn't have public education, that isn't third world. Stop being bitter about paying for other people's children. There isn't a single good argument against public education.</font></p><p>It's not the government's job to make sure that everyone goes to school. The role of a government is to protect the people. Raising children is the parent's job. </p>

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PapaBear
09-09-2005, 11:29 PM
I say again... stupid, stupid, stupid. This isn't even worth discussing. If you can show me a plan (with your amazing private school eduction) that public&nbsp;education can be eliminated, then I'll discuss it further. Until then, good luck in your Utopian fantasy world.

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MrPink
09-10-2005, 12:11 AM
Theres no special plan, just eliminate public schooling. Let schools be run privately like a business.&nbsp;Smart kids could possibly get scholarships. The main thing is that the government can't make anything work. If schools were privatized, people would have a choice among many schools and shitty ones would get no business. Any further questions?

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PapaBear
09-10-2005, 12:36 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Theres no special plan, just eliminate public schooling. Let schools be run privately like a business.&nbsp;Smart kids could possibly get scholarships. The main thing is that the government can't make anything work. If schools were privatized, people would have a choice among many schools and shitty ones would get no business. Any further questions? <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/Catholiccannon/RFnetMrPink.jpg" border="0" /> George Bush doesn't care about black people. <p><br />Any more questions?&nbsp; Here's one for you. After you've given scholarships to the smart kids (and how do you plan on finding smart kids, who aren't educated) what do you do with the rest of them? Do you use your tax dollars to shoot them? Do you use your tax dollars to hire more police to keep them away from society? Do you use your tax dollars to sterilize potential parents, who can't afford private schools?</p><p>One more question for you...&nbsp; If you want the schools to be run like a business...&nbsp; What do you plan on doing, when someone like Kenneth Lay gets the job of running that business?</p>

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Bulldogcakes
09-10-2005, 03:14 AM
<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p><br />Any
more questions? Here's one for you. After you've given scholarships to
the smart kids (and how do you plan on finding smart kids, who aren't
educated) what do you do with the rest of them? Do you use your tax
dollars to shoot them? Do you use your tax dollars to hire more police
to keep them away from society? Do you use your tax dollars to
sterilize potential parents, who can't afford private schools?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Of
course not. But we could still have ALOT more private education (which
generally costs HALF what the public schools do and gets better
results) and leave the shitty Public education as a minimum for those
who dont care about thier sticking children in failing schools, which
apparently you dont. <br />
</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>One
more question for you... If you want the schools to be run like a
business... What do you plan on doing, when someone like Kenneth Lay
gets the job of running that business?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Ummm I dunno, fire him?
Or take your kid out of the school which you would be free to do,
unlike now? And BTW if Ken Lay could get higher test scores, he could
run my school any day. Just stay away from the bookkeeper, Kenny boy. <br />
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09-10-2005, 05:41 AM
<p>What do you plan on doing, when someone like Kenneth Lay gets the job of running that business?</p><font size="1"><p>Deliver&nbsp;a rapid succession of well placed Flair~chops&nbsp;to his chest until he gets his shit together.</p><p>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p></font>

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zentraed
09-10-2005, 09:18 AM
<p>It costs about $7500/year to put a kid through public school. It
costs about $25,000/year (low estimate, i think) to put someone in
prison. And education is an investment; well-educated people help our
economy grow, are less likely to commit violent crime and have deviant
children. The list goes on and on. There are about 60 million kids
between 5 and 20 years old who earn money for another 40+ years after
finishing school. They pay it back.<br />
</p>

SatCam
09-10-2005, 10:45 AM
<p><font size="1">Show me a country that doesn't have public education, that isn't third world. Stop being bitter about paying for other people's children. There isn't a single good argument against public education. </font></p><p><font size="1">Third world countries don't have public education because everyone there is poor.&nbsp; Who would pay for it?&nbsp; Certainly not the people who make 3cents a day.&nbsp; The government is also often&nbsp;corrupt, but corruption and no public schooling don't have to go hand-in-hand.</font></p><p><font size="1" /></p><p><font size="1">And to answer the question of what to do with people who can't afford private school.&nbsp; There's two answers:&nbsp; After you eliminate public school, you pay a lot less in taxes... thus, you have a lot of money left over.</font></p><p><font size="1">And then there's a cool thing called:&nbsp;charity for people who cant afford it.&nbsp; It works, trust me</font></p>

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zentraed
09-10-2005, 11:42 AM
<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="1"><font size="1">And
to answer the question of what to do with people who can't afford
private school. There's two answers: After you eliminate public school,
you pay a lot less in taxes... thus, you have a lot of money left over.</font></font></p><p><font size="1"><font size="1">And then there's a cool thing called: charity for people who cant afford it. It works, trust me</font></font></p>&nbsp;

<font size="1"><font color="Red">[ X ]</font></font><font size="1"><font color="White"><br /></font></font><font size="1"><font size="1">Ok, so not everyone can afford to educate their children, so those that can afford it and should help pay for it... </font></font><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="1"><font size="1">But
when the government does this, it's a terrible thing. Nevermind the
fact that teachers are one of the lowest paying jobs requiring a 4-year
degree or that you get a lot of effiencies from building and
transporting children to neighborhood schools. If you tried to
implement universal private schooling, you would end up modelling it
after our current system. Unless you were hoping to maintain things
like class and gender inequality.</font></font></p><font size="1"><font size="1" /></font>

MrPink
09-10-2005, 12:32 PM
I&nbsp;knew someone would bring Kenneth Lay into this. There are so many businesses that conduct their business fairly, but you have to bring up one person of a very small minority that wanna fuck shit up. That's like saying we need to get rid of drivers licenses because of old asian women that get into car accidents. Sorry, if I'm incoherent, I'm fucked up right now.

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MrPink
09-10-2005, 12:41 PM
I have a fairly simple example of why schools would be run better if the government didn't run them. The US Postal Service is a part of the federal government. Anyone that works there will tell you that it has shitty management. I've heard of people that just don't bother going to work for weeks at a time and they don't get fired. They can't seem to get anything right. UPS is a similar company even though mail is not involved. I have never heard of anyone complaining about UPS. The difference is that people can actually get fired. It's time to get rid of your socialist agendas and help make this country great.

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zentraed
09-10-2005, 04:30 PM
<p>so instead of a $.37 stamp, I take it you ship all your mail UPS.
What do you do when you all you have is a P.O. box for an address?</p><p>&nbsp;Why
is it better to throw away something and replace it rather than
introducing transparency and accountability? If a business has lousy
management practices, they'll have to cleary demonstrate, &quot;Look we've
changed how we operate!&quot; every quarter to maintain investor confidence.
Why not demand that of your government?<br />
<br />
</p>

Evilpete
09-10-2005, 05:06 PM
<font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p><em>Children are the future ~</em> Randy Watson </p>

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MrPink
09-10-2005, 08:50 PM
<font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>so instead of a $.37 stamp, I take it you ship all your mail UPS.
What do you do when you all you have is a P.O. box for an address?</p><p> Why
is it better to throw away something and replace it rather than
introducing transparency and accountability? If a business has lousy
management practices, they'll have to cleary demonstrate, &quot;Look we've
changed how we operate!&quot; every quarter to maintain investor confidence.
Why not demand that of your government?<br />
<br />
</p>

I do not send mail thru
the UPS because there is no other mail service. With private
enterprise, you have alternatives, but not with the government. That's
why monopolies are illegal. Competition is what makes businesses create
better quality things. How in the hell can you demand that the
government do a better job? You can't, and don't give me that get out
and vote bullshit.<br />


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Recyclerz
09-10-2005, 10:38 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>I hate children! <p>&nbsp;</p><p><img height="249" src="http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_movie/villageofdamned.JPG" width="320" border="0" /></p><p>I've passed your message onto these cute li'l buggers.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And&nbsp;if you ban&nbsp;children where will all those adorable, spoilt Young Republicans come from?</p><p>But I understand how those street urchins selling matches can harsh your mellow. My deepest sympathies.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/recyclerz/myhomepage/sigpic1.gif?mtbrand=AOL_US" border="0" /> </p><p><strong>There ain't no asylum here. King Solomon, he never lived 'round here</strong> </p>

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PapaBear
09-10-2005, 10:52 PM
<p>I'm not really opposed to &quot;privatized schools&quot;. I'm against having NO public money for schools. With privatized schools, the education is provided by cororations, but the state sitll funds them. People who don't have children will still need to pay taxes to fund privatized schools.</p><p>If you think there is a potential system, where people who don't have children don't pay for education, then you're just plain nuts. What next... people who don't own cars don't pay for roads?&nbsp; People who's homes don't burn or have medical emergencies, don't pay for fire and rescue services? There are things that we all pay for that we wish we didn't have to pay for.</p>

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MrPink
09-10-2005, 11:41 PM
<p>Whatever, I'm not gonna change anyone's mind and noone is gonna change mine. I'm just a drunk with internet. My point for the whole thread is that children suck. Maybe we could have a thing like on Battle Royale to weed out the weak links.</p>

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PapaBear
09-11-2005, 12:16 AM
<p>I'm just a drunk with internet.</p><p>Finally... we have something in common!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" /></p>

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MrPink
09-11-2005, 04:03 PM
Maybe we can be boared buddies.

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FUNKMAN
09-11-2005, 04:14 PM
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