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Furtherman

10-20-2005, 12:00 PM

<a href="http://avclub.com/content/node/41714" target="_blank">A Decade Of Underrated Movies</a> Some good picks on this list.  I enjoyed Dark Blue.  Dead Man is a great, creepy movie.Office Space?  I don't think that is underrated, in fact, it's dangerously close to becoming overrated because everyone has seen it 17 times. American Psycho...  ehhh...I'm curious to check out The Brown Bunny, Mr. Jealousy and The Underneath. I'll pass on Josie and The Pussycats.My pick from the last decade: Primer <img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=7" border="0" />

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JimBeam

10-20-2005, 12:37 PM

I think <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/title/tt0235737/">The Salton Sea</a> with Val Kilmer is under-rated.

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Snoogans

10-20-2005, 12:39 PM

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10-20-2005, 01:48 PM

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Bestinshow

10-20-2005, 01:52 PM

Red Rock West with Nicholas Cage and Dennis Hopper. Nobody has ever heard of it and anybody I ever get to watch it loves it.Maybe Cage's best performance.

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10-20-2005, 01:53 PM

Maybe Cage's best performance. thats like sayin Ryan Leaf's best game 

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10-21-2005, 07:55 AM

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Yosammity

10-21-2005, 08:07 AM

quote: My pick from the last decade: Primer Ugh!  I hated Primer!  Interesting story, but the dialogue was horrendous!  What a piece of filth.  My wife wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the night because I made her watch it with me.

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Furtherman

10-21-2005, 08:23 AM

"Ugh!  I hated Primer!"hahahah... that's why I feel it is underrated!Once you get past the tech-speak, which is really only the first 15 minutes, the story gets really mind bending.  And as mind-bending movies go, this is one of the best.  You really have to think to figure it out, or at least form a plausable theory.  Sometimes I find that a bit more fun than a normal movie.  It gets better with repeated viewing.

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JPMNICK

10-21-2005, 08:41 AM

when i saw the thread title. first movie that came to mind was American Psycho. No one thinks of this movie when christian bale is mentioned, but i think he was terrific in it.  Now I may be way off on this next one, but I feel liek I NEVER hear any one talk about, even though there are great actors in it. Heat. never gets the respect it deserves.   

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Furtherman

10-21-2005, 08:56 AM

I love Heat.  The only gripe I've heard occasionally it that is it too long, but I think overall, among movie buffs, Heat holds its own.That kind of reminds me Michael Mann's Collateral.I felt I was lucky enough to see it in the theater right before it left for DVD.  Great movie.  Very well written, acted and directed.  Beautifully shot.  I know it did pretty well at the box office, but I think it should have generated a little more heat.

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JPMNICK

10-21-2005, 09:25 AM

how did heat do in the movies? for some reason, i do not remember it being a big deal movie. Maybe it was the age i was at and I was just not paying much attention

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Furtherman

10-21-2005, 09:30 AM

<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/business" target="_blank">Not bad for 1995 numbers.</a>$67,436,000 (USA) ( 1996)$174,400,000 (Worldwide)

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JPMNICK

10-21-2005, 09:47 AM

i can not believe it was not nominated for 1 Oscar that year.

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UtopiaBanished

10-21-2005, 10:13 AM

Josie and the Pussycats????office space deserves to be therewhere the hell is Super Troopers, and Harry and Kumar Goto White Castle??

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10-21-2005, 10:39 AM

Maybe "Showgirls"???

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10-21-2005, 05:58 PM

I have two... 
 "The King of comedy" "The King of New York" 

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10-21-2005, 06:08 PM

Did my snuff film make the list?

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10-21-2005, 07:04 PM

quote: Did my snuff film make the list?  Posthumously...   

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Yosammity

10-23-2005, 04:27 PM

quote: "Ugh!  I hated Primer!"hahahah... that's why I feel it is underrated!Once you get past the tech-speak, which is really only the first 15 minutes, the story gets really mind bending.  And as mind-bending movies go, this is one of the best.  You really have to think to figure it out, or at least form a plausable theory.  Sometimes I find that a bit more fun than a normal movie.  It gets better with repeated viewing. But it was bogus tech-speak.  And I found it about as mind-bending as the Back to the Future trilogy.

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BeerBandit

10-23-2005, 05:54 PM

For all those knocking Josie and the Pussycats, have you
actually seen it.  It's on the list for a reason.  It really
is suprisingly good.  It was not done like Scooby-Doo, The
Flintstones, or any of the other cartoon to Live Action Full Length
Movies.  See it.  You'll enjoy it.  Also see Drop Dead
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furie

10-23-2005, 05:59 PM

<h1 class="subtitle">Starship Troopers? how can i take anything this guy has to say seriously? </h1> quote: I'll pass on Josie and The Pussycats. <h1 class="subtitle">actually, not a bad flick. you'd be surprised. </h1>

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HBox

10-23-2005, 06:04 PM

Did I see the same movie as the rest
of you? Josie
and the Pussycats was 100% grade-A USDA-approved garbage. That that
shit movie made the list and a movie like "In the Company of Men"
didn't shows just what kind of shit this list is. 

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PaulF

10-23-2005, 06:30 PM

Starship Troopers is on UPN (movie edit) as I type this. Definitely has some of that comic undertone that Robocop had. Plus it has Doogie Howser.I never considered American Psycho underrated -- too many people I know have seen it and like it. Before Batman Begins came out and Christian Bale came up, it was always "the guy from American Psycho" and everyone knew who you were talking about.Oddly, I have three movies for the list featuring the same actor: October Sky (inspirational), Bubble Boy (laugh like an tard), Donnie Darko (mind f**k) - all with Jake Gyllenhal (sp?). I will watch any of them whenever I catch them on TV.

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JohnnyCard

10-23-2005, 07:20 PM

Maybe Cage's best performance.   thats like sayin Ryan Leaf's best game  Now thats funny.

Mike Teacher

10-23-2005, 07:34 PM

how did heat do in the movies? for some reason, i do not remember it being a big deal movie. Maybe it was the age i was at and I was just not paying much attention =Again, like with so much of Carpenter's horror work, Michael Mann missed it by *that* much with Heat. For me, it's fucking brilliant from first shot to last, but that's just me; I'm into the all location, no soundstage approach Mann took, and the locations he found were fantastic. Add in a soundtrack ranging from those Kronos Quartet strings that begin it [the group that does the strings peeps mentioned before in Requiem for a Dream...] to Moby's 'God Moving Across the face of the Waters' thats ends the flick; I dont know much of Moby's stuff but this instrumntal piece just floors me.Also, there's what many say is, and here's one youd think youd never hear from critics, but too many characters, and too much development of each, or that Mann tries to develop all of these ancillary characters outside of the Crew: Judd, Azaria, Amy Brenneran, the Bond Trader I cant remember his name, the last minute get away driver, Natalie Portman; makes for a shitload of scenes that are dialouge heavy with not much action, which is the movies best stuff.And it's sorts two movies, in which Deniro and Pacino rarely overlap onscreen. Fantastic set pieces, the beginning job, 'making' the cops, , the blown metals job stakeout, and of course, the Far East bank scene, which I could watch a zillion times and not tire of.And Collaterol for me seemed an attempt to re-do much of it, somewhere else I posted pics of DeNiro's Neil McCauley and Cruises character. Cruise is made up as DeNiro down to the last detail. =I'd call the original Gojira aka Godzilla 1954 [?] is under-rated here in the US. Maybe seen as a throw away, the addition of Raymond Burr I can see as perhaps necesary for a US audience, but somewhere way back I got a copy of the original uncut Japanese version subtitled, and watching it you can see this wonderful, dark, brooding, hopeless, flick. Sure its guys in rubber suits but fuck it, I love the damn thing.I celebrate the entire Gamera catalog. Spinning, fire shooting turtles from space = more gooderGamera.... Gamera....Gamera is full of meat, Gamera is fun to eatWe all love you Gamera...<img src="http://members.aol.com/miketeachr/esig" border="0" />

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TheMojoPin

10-27-2005, 02:15 PM

I know Mickey Rourke is kinda back in the spotlight thanks to Sin City, but the guy is easily one of the most underused and underappreciated actors since the 80's, and he starred in two MASSIVELY underrated films before he went nuts and quit acting for boxing in the early 90's...the first:<img height="1" src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0001US62I.01._SCLZZZZZZZ" width="1" border="0" /><img height="1" src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0001US62I.01._SCLZZZZZZZ" width="1" border="0" /><img height="500" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001US62I.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" width="338" border="0" />GodDAMN, I love this movie.  Basically Se7en way before Se7en, but with a bizarre supernatural twist.  Yeah, those FX in the last few scenes are pretty bad, but the movie itself is a perfect piece of noir.  Watch for the "egg scene" with Rourke and DeNiro and see two great actors working their craft in a movie that's still criminally ignored.  Rourke also ruled the school in...<img height="755" src="http://www.impawards.com/1984/posters/pope_of_greenwich_village.jpg" width="493" border="0" />I know Ron has mentioned both of these flicks on the show before, and has summed up Pope... better than I ever could, but damn, I never get tired of this flick.  Eric Roberts is phenomenal here, just as good as he was in the ALSO sadly forgotten...<img height="318" src="http://www.dacre.org/flash/www/gb100611.jpg" width="191" border="0" />It's a fucking shame that Roberts' great early work is overshadowed by all the crappy B-movies he's done since, and by his horsefaced sister, but you won't find better turns by an actor than what he did in the two films above.  Guy deserves another shot at the big roles...

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10-27-2005, 04:04 PM

Some of the not-so-well-known movies i have always enjoyed would be:Marooned  I can never recall the name of the actor who stars in this baby, but it's about a space ship adrift in space. The thing is carrying the last remaining plants from Earth, which got it's ass blowed up. So this dude is basically the gardener being made fun of by others in the crew and he kills them and gradually goes nuts! nuts! nuts!Repo Man  Always dug this lil' number, not a great movie or anything, but there's some cheap thrills init and some good lines.Mystery Train  My first Jim Jarmulch film, besides really enjoying the city of Memphis anyways, this one is just plain cool. My man Screaming Jay Hawkins is great, just great.

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10-27-2005, 04:19 PM

BOONDOCK SAINTS

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10-27-2005, 04:47 PM

quote: I know Mickey Rourke is kinda back in the spotlight thanks to Sin City, but the guy is easily one of the most underused and underappreciated actors since the 80's, and he starred in two MASSIVELY underrated films before he went nuts and quit acting for boxing in the early 90's...the first:<img height="1" src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0001US62I.01._SCLZZZZZZZ" width="1" border="0" /><img height="1" src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0001US62I.01._SCLZZZZZZZ" width="1" border="0" /><img height="500" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001US62I.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" width="338" border="0" />GodDAMN, I love this movie.  Basically Se7en way before Se7en, but with a bizarre supernatural twist.  Yeah, those FX in the last few scenes are pretty bad, but the movie itself is a perfect piece of noir.  Watch for the "egg scene" with Rourke and DeNiro and see two great actors working their craft in a movie that's still criminally ignored.    Totally agree on this one. I loved the soundtrack, but I don't think it was ever released after the movie did so shitty. How 'bout Miller's Crossing? My favorite gangster flick. And.....oh god I'm afraid to say this one.....aw hell I'm secure with myself. Legally Blonde. Girl Power!

TheMojoPin

10-27-2005, 08:40 PM

How 'bout Miller's Crossing? My favorite gangster flick.Mine too.To this day, if someone really gets under my skin and frsutrate me, I tend to blurt out, "YOU'RE GIVING ME THE HIGH HAT!!!"And then they just look at me funny.And I feel shame.

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10-27-2005, 09:55 PM

I finally saw Boondock Saints not too long ago, and I'm sorry to say, I found it very OVERrated.  Not that it's a bad film, it's not, but it rather underwhelmed me.  I suppose I had heard too many things about it and set my expectations too high.  Still, Willem DaFoe is terrific in that.And Brown Bunny IS a piece of shit.  It's only good for one scene, and we all know what that is.

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10-27-2005, 10:13 PM

I definitely agree about Boondock Saints.  It's enjoyable enough, but people talk like it's the greatest fucking thing since sliced Tarantino.  Completely forgettable film...though the documentary about what a pompous ass the director is is pure gold, Jerry, GOLD!!!<img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000929VTU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ" border="0" /><img height="300" src="http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/cover_art3/overnight.jpg" width="214" border="0" />

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Se7en

10-27-2005, 10:25 PM

Yes, I've seen a lot of comparisons between Saints and Tarantino, but I don't see it.  Tarantino's films are superior, though I'm not really a big fan of the guy.Speaking of Tarantino and overrated, I'd go with the Kill Bill films.  It's not that I didn't like them, I like them fine as an homage to a lot of the cult films of yesteryear that obviously influenced Tarantino when he was younger, but a lot of people (on the net at least) think those films are cool as shit, and I just don't see it.But there I've gone and temporarily hijacked the thread by talking about overrated movies instead of underrated ones.Maybe I'll go with "City of God" as underrated.  Not underrated by critics, but a lot of ordinary people may not have seen it or be that knowledgeable of it, particularly because it's a foreign film.  But holy fuck, that's one terrific movie.  I rented it a few weeks back, and it's one of the best films I've seen in a long time.

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10-27-2005, 10:28 PM

Yes, yes, yes and YES!!!City of God is so good it's sickening.

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10-27-2005, 10:55 PM

quote: And Brown Bunny IS a piece of shit.  It's only good for one scene, and we all know what that is. how dare ye speak of a vincent gallo film with such abandon!  only vincent gallo  is worthy enough to suck vincent gallo's cock- that's why the movie tanked. 

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Smalls

11-17-2005, 02:01 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with Darkman, but I'll have to stick with Heavy Metal.

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11-17-2005, 02:07 PM

I also Enjoyed In The Mouth Of Madness, as I enjoy Stephen King's
novels and find this movie brilliant. Sam Neill's performance is
fantastic and the terror you feel can seem very real when the book
world and reality start to merge as one.

fezident

11-17-2005, 03:00 PM

CABLE GUY.This movie was got bad reviews from every critic and it sank like a tank at the box office but, I think it's frickin' hilarious.I think this movie marked the first time an actor made 20 mill.  The publics expectations were so high that it would've bombed no matter how funny it was. 

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