Black Earl should give it up. [Archive]

PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:32 AM

He should quit.  I agree with Harry in that it is annoying to work for someone who thinks that leadership is repeating very broad generalizations like "get you head in the game" or "step it up."  I wish someone would have asked Earl if they were "on the same page" the day he came in 2.5 hours late.  On top of that he is a whining bitch, moaning and groaning about how cold he is.  Black Earl has the annoying tendency to repeat the funny things that RF say, but about 5 minutes after the fact.  Maybe he can book some more lame guest like the douchebag from Suddenly Susan or the author of "The Book of Cool".  Giant Brian was the best producer since Al Dukes or Rory.  He got it.  Give up Black Earl, go eat a chicken wing with lemonade.

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TheRealEddie

12-21-2005, 11:35 AM

..white people are so scared... 

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mikeyboy

12-21-2005, 11:35 AM

I couldn't agree less.  Earl does a hell of a jobh of running the show.  The mere fact that you're faulting him for being 2.5 hours late (it was actually 2 hours) during a transit strike and was cold because he spent hours outside shows that your perception is skewed.

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:38 AM

His attitude sucks.  He was looking for sympathy becuase he came into work. Wah Wah, I'm cold.  And what was with "I need to collect my thoughts."  That sounds like he needed time to think up a lie.  Earl has good days but not very often.  Coming in late is fine.  But he was acting like a martyr, and it was very clear that the show functions smoothly without him.

Furtherman

12-21-2005, 11:40 AM

Learn what a "bit" is. Earl is the man.

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angrymissy

12-21-2005, 11:40 AM

I was apprehensive at first when I heard Earl was going to be on the show, but I'm pleasantly surprised and think he's doing a great job.

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:42 AM

What has Earl done for the show ?  Book crappy guests ?  Slow the flow down on a daily basis ?  Earl got his chance (Opie owes Ron BIG TIME) and he blew it.  See YA !

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mikeyboy

12-21-2005, 11:43 AM

quote: His attitude sucks.  He was looking for sympathy becuase he came into work. Wah Wah, I'm cold.  And what was with "I need to collect my thoughts."  That sounds like he needed time to think up a lie.  Earl has good days but not very often.  Coming in late is fine.  But he was acting like a martyr, and it was very clear that the show functions smoothly without him.You're grasping at straws.  I doubt anyone is as hard on Earl as Earl is on himself.  It was one day when he wasn't able to be there for the show, and it wasn't for lack of trying.  The fact thatthe show ran smoothly without Earl is more a testament to Harry's ability to step up when the shit hit the fan than Earl's lack os skills.  As for "I need to collect my thought", I think that translates to "I need to take a wicked piss because I've been trying for hours in the cold to get here, so I can't talk now." 

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:46 AM

The show is fine without him, bottom line.  He brings very little to the table.  I am sure he was valuable technical knowledge but it dosen't compensate for his "poor me" attitude.

PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:49 AM

I had it with Earl when he wouldn't give Harry a specific reason why they weren't on the same page.  It was very telling.  Earl is not a leader.  Let him screen phones or pull up music during the show.

mikeyboy

12-21-2005, 11:51 AM

quote: What has Earl done for the show ?  Book crappy guests ?  Slow the flow down on a daily basis ?  Earl got his chance (Opie owes Ron BIG TIME) and he blew it.  See YA !The things that Earl does behind the scenes that you don't know about could probably fill a book.  You don't like some of the guests?  Fine, that's your prerogative.  The Anthony Bourdain interview was great,  Matthew Modine and James Frey were really interesting.  Also, I could be remembering wrong, but I think one of the interviews that you criticized, the "Book of Cool" author was one that Ron was interested in getting. 

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suggums

12-21-2005, 11:52 AM

The show is not fine without him, bottom line.  He brings everything to the table.  I am sure he wasn't valuable technical knowledge but it does compensate for his "rich me" attitude. 

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:55 AM

Anthony Bourdain was good.  "Probably fill a book"  sounds like one of Black Earl's famous Generalizations.  Ron didn't seem to care at all about "The Book of Cool" author.  He just didn't want to hurt Earl's fragile feelings.quote:The things that Earl does behind the scenes that you don't know about could probably fill a book.  You don't like some of the guests?  Fine, that's your prerogative.  The Anthony Bourdain interview was great,  Matthew Modine and James Frey were really interesting.  Also, I could be remembering wrong, but I think one of the interviews that you criticized, the "Book of Cool" author was one that Ron was interested in getting. <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem 

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 11:58 AM

Black Earl couldn't take 2 minutes in the barrel with the guys goofing on him.  He dosen't get it.   He turned into sourpuss Black Earl and we are all supposed to feel sorry for him that he was cold.  Boo Hoo.

Snoogans

12-21-2005, 12:00 PM

The things that Earl does behind the scenes that you don't know about could probably fill a book or at least fill the public file 

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:05 PM

Did Earl go to the Hospital to get his frozen halzelnuts thawed or checked out by a specialist ?  Gee I hope he was OK.  He's a real American Hero for all of the hardship he has been through.

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12-21-2005, 12:06 PM

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ChrisTheCop

12-21-2005, 12:07 PM

Pete. Welcome to the board. But as far as this topic goes, it's already Pete 0, Earl 7. Perhaps you are the one who should give it up.The day Jan Brady, Andre the Giant "that lady" from bayridge start calling in again is when youll know Ron and Fez dont like the guests.

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Dirtybird12

12-21-2005, 12:09 PM

quote: Did Earl go to the Hospital to get his frozen halzelnuts thawed or checked out by a specialist ?  Gee I hope he was OK.  He's a real American Hero for all of the hardship he has been through.  

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:10 PM

quote: Pete. Welcome to the board. But as far as this topic goes, it's already Pete 0, Earl 7. Perhaps you are the one who should give it up.The day Jan Brady, Andre the Giant "that lady" from bayridge start calling in again is when youll know Ron and Fez dont like the guests.Merry Christmas!  Black Earl has booked plenty of "bad guests" just not for the "bad guest" bit.  Giant Brian got it.  I know we are all nostalgic for WNEW days and Black Earl fits into that.  He just makes a better "friend of the show" than the person in charge.  It's not me vs. Earl.  I just think he brings the show down more than he brings it up.

mikeyboy

12-21-2005, 12:10 PM

quote: Did Earl go to the Hospital to get his frozen halzelnuts thawed or checked out by a specialist ?  Gee I hope he was OK.  He's a real American Hero for all of the hardship he has been through. Did we listen to the same show?  I don't remember Earl trying to get sympathy.  I do remember him being a little annoyed and pissed off because he stood in the cold for five hours trying to get to work.  If that was me, I'd be a lot more pissed off than he was yesterday.

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12-21-2005, 12:11 PM

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:13 PM

quote: Did we listen to the same show?  I don't remember Earl trying to get sympathy.  I do remember him being a little annoyed and pissed off because he stood in the cold for five hours trying to get to work.  If that was me, I'd be a lot more pissed off than he was yesterday.   Oh that would have gone over real big.  Earl tells Ron and Fez "you should be happy I came in today, you owe me"  Just do your job Black Earl, no one asks you to work that hard obviously.

mikeyboy

12-21-2005, 12:15 PM

quote: quote: Did we listen to the same show?  I don't remember Earl trying to get sympathy.  I do remember him being a little annoyed and pissed off because he stood in the cold for five hours trying to get to work.  If that was me, I'd be a lot more pissed off than he was yesterday. Oh that would have gone over real big.  Earl tells Ron and Fez "you should be happy I came in today, you owe me"  Just do your job Black Earl, no one asks you to work that hard obviously.  Wait...what? 

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:16 PM

May I suggest Joe Poo as the new producer ?  He got it.

Steels

12-21-2005, 12:20 PM

Sounds like salads were flying during the show. 

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curtoid

12-21-2005, 12:22 PM

Earl is an excellent producer.

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ChrisTheCop

12-21-2005, 12:22 PM

now i get it. petenice is joe poo.

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:24 PM

quote: Earl is an excellent producer.I'd rather have hope in my soul than soap in my hole... Yeah he is really "on the same page" and "has his head in the game"  Congrats.

PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:25 PM

quote: now i get it. petenice is joe poo.  Christmas! Latter Day Jim Morrison for Producer !

curtoid

12-21-2005, 12:30 PM

Hey - I've seen this movie before - the one where the person has an ax to grind on a message board unearths an old screenname he only has 3 posts on, but hasn't touched in over 2 years, so no one suspects the true motivations! It always ends with a laugh, and a lesson.

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PeteNice99

12-21-2005, 12:33 PM

quote: Hey - I've seen this movie before - the one where the person has an ax to grind on a message board unearths an old screenname he only has 3 posts on, but hasn't touched in over 2 years, so no one suspects the true motivations! It always ends with a laugh, and a lesson.I'd rather have hope in my soul than soap in my hole... True Genius.  Yeah, I am really grinding an axe.  Great observation from someone with a dozen screennames.

Dudeman

12-21-2005, 12:41 PM

he's a rory-like producer- good a off air stuff, not good on air. he's not an al dukes or even a giant brian style producer.

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EliSnow

12-21-2005, 12:48 PM

I know the Pete is just acting like a troll to bother people, but I think there is one obvious response to his complaint.  Ron and Fez, who know a hell of a lot more about what makes a good radio show and a producer, than Pete and probably 99% of this board (including me) have been praising Earl's work left and right, and are clearly happy with his work.  Given this, if Pete doesn't like Earl, I suggest not listening to R&F any more, because Earl will be on for a long time.

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ChrisTheCop

12-21-2005, 01:15 PM

Ron and Fez.. know a hell of a lot more about what makes a good radio show ..than.. probably 99% of this board17,815 registered membersi'm no math wiz, but are you saying theres 170 of us who could do a better job than r and f???

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EliSnow

12-21-2005, 01:24 PM

quote:  quote: Ron and Fez.. know a hell of a lot more about what makes a good radio show ..than.. probably 99% of this board   quote: 17,815 registered members  i'm no math wiz, but are you saying theres 170 of us who could do a better job than r and f???  Nope, because you're misstating the inverse of my statement.  I talked about knowledge, not ability.  Thus, the correct inverse of my statement is that 1% know as much or more as R&F about what makes a good radio show.Still you have a good point, and it's probably closer to to 99.99% of the board know less than R&F. <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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ChrisTheCop

12-21-2005, 01:50 PM

oh crap...my abacus just crashed.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-21-2005, 02:21 PM

Earl is boring.  I have not heard R&F really RAVE about how great he is doing.  I think they are tolerating him becuase he is their friend.  That is a tough situation.  I think Earl is the one who needs to step it up and get his head in the game.  The staff revolting on him and his lack of response show that he can not handle this responsibility. When ever Earl is challenged on his work his response is "I love it here, I am grateful for the opportunity."  Sorry, that dosen't cut it.

EliSnow

12-21-2005, 02:25 PM

quote: Earl is boring.  I have not heard R&F really RAVE about how great he is doing.  I think they are tolerating him becuase he is their friend.  That is a tough situation.  I think Earl is the one who needs to step it up and get his head in the game.  The staff revolting on him and his lack of response show that he can not handle this responsibility. When ever Earl is challenged on his work his response is "I love it here, I am grateful for the opportunity."  Sorry, that dosen't cut it. Do you listen to the show?  Ever since they started on XM, they have consistently said that Earl has done great on the show, and consider him one of the three permanent members of the show (with R&F being the other two of course).  Also, if you have listened to the show, especially since the NEW days, you would know that they have no problem busting Earl or anyone for that matter on fuck-ups.  They wouldn't "tolerate" him if he was not doing a good job.  You would hear about it.<img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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Death Metal Moe

12-21-2005, 02:38 PM

Fucking haters.  You just don't want to see a young black man succeed in your white world.But seriously I agree with Angry Missy.  When I heard "Producer Black Earl" I was EXTREMELY concerned because I only knew one Earl.  The Earl O&A ragged on to fucking death.  He got mad and they felt that was good radio, when it really wasn't.Now that Earl has been given the opporunity to be something besides a fall guy I feel he's doing a great job and showing what he's made of.I couldn't disagree more with this thread either.

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Death Metal Moe

12-21-2005, 02:39 PM

quote: quote: Hey - I've seen this movie before - the one where the person has an ax to grind on a message board unearths an old screenname he only has 3 posts on, but hasn't touched in over 2 years, so no one suspects the true motivations! It always ends with a laugh, and a lesson.I'd rather have hope in my soul than soap in my hole... True Genius.  Yeah, I am really grinding an axe.  Great observation from someone with a dozen screennames. Don't attack established members because you got your point shot to pieces you little piss ant. 

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jlehane

12-21-2005, 02:54 PM

If Earl is guilty of anything it's the NICE GUY syndrome,where he's so involved in the job that he micromanages and is afraid to delegate and LEAVE it to others......not fear that it won't get done right unless he stays 18 hours.Cross training is the key to reasonable intern programs,then they can sort out what they are best at/skills. I don't have all the answers because I'm not THERE and DON'T know what goes on,but I hear his character come out in his voice that he takes the job so seriously that he's not willing to let the others screw up and take responsibility.You get what I'm saying,I hope.

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12-21-2005, 02:58 PM

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DJEvelEd

12-21-2005, 03:06 PM

Earl doesn't have a staff. Earl is in charge of producing the show. Earl is our Baa Baa Booey ("Ear Ear Early?" naa "La La Latey!") so by default he is in charge of giving the interns instructions on what he needs. Nobody is perfect but Earl is a pure radio guy who knows his shit so cut him some fuckin slack jack. Ron & Fez have gelled but it always seems to take Earl more time to do things...like hangin pictures and such.Earl is not the HNIC yet but someday he will be cause hes goood.

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ChrisTheCop

12-21-2005, 03:33 PM

Earl doesn't have a staffok..maybe too easy..but that would explain the virginity.

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Kobe8

12-21-2005, 04:45 PM

Earl is doing a great job and is a terrific comic foil for the boys.  He is an excellent straight man who brings a lot to the show both on and off the air.I'd like to see you do better you babbling Internet fucktard.

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Clutch

12-21-2005, 04:59 PM

quote: Fucking haters.  You just don't want to see a young black man succeed in your white world.But seriously I agree with Angry Missy.  When I heard "Producer Black Earl" I was EXTREMELY concerned because I only knew one Earl.  The Earl O&A ragged on to fucking death.  He got mad and they felt that was good radio, when it really wasn't.Now that Earl has been given the opporunity to be something besides a fall guy I feel he's doing a great job and showing what he's made of.I couldn't disagree more with this thread either.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.unhallowed.com/">www.unhallowed.com</a> <a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</a> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/deathmetalmoe">Death Metal MySpace</a> DTN Good point Moe.... good point  When I heard Earl as producer, I had no clue he knew what to do. All I remember was a angry black man who got shit on by O/A ... I think he's doing a great job and removing himself from the Earl we knew way back when. Congrates to him and what he's doing. He also has two hosts that really know what to do and how to put a show together .... Like someone else said ... you don't like earl then don't listen .... 

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Dr Steve

12-21-2005, 05:59 PM

quote: I remember was a angry black man who got shit on by O/A ... The thing is, they love Earl, and Opie recommended him for the job for R&F.  I think Earl does a great job as producer...the show is funny, and the audio is seamless.  He's just not real dynamic on the air, but that's really not his job.Now, having said that, if I had a boss who moped around and then said things like "we're just not on the same page" or "we're not firing on all cylinders" instead of giving me specific criticism of my work, I'd probably have to shoot myself.  But hell, that's just Earl.

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FUNKMAN

12-21-2005, 06:02 PM

everyone has their like and dislikes i would just say you have to have confidence and trust in Ron and Fez and their judgement. their success over a long period of time is enough proof for me

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EffMeBoobs

12-21-2005, 06:17 PM

Earl has proved himself since his OA days.  Ron and Fez have said
time and time again that Earl is the only good one on their
staff.  He has done a fine job in my opinion and is always right
on the money when Ron and Fez need him.  Besides, he plays the
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GreyHoodyShirt

12-21-2005, 06:33 PM

Ron and Fez say nice things about Earl becuase he has proven himself to be very fragile when it comes to criticism.  Ron and Fez are what make the show, and despite what they say, Earl is a third wheel.  They appreciate him, but do not need him.  The show would not suffer if he left, it might help.

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12-21-2005, 07:38 PM

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DJEvelEd

12-21-2005, 07:43 PM

Wow how can I forget his bumper music! Amazing! He picks 'em well. It must be in his genes.

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FUNKMAN

12-21-2005, 07:48 PM

Sounds like salads were flying during the show. so you caught that one too?  when earl said he was gonna commit suicide by " biting the silver salad ".i'm still befuddled by that one

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 05:14 AM

quote: Ron and Fez say nice things about Earl becuase he has proven himself to be very fragile when it comes to criticism.  Really, when did they share that with you?  Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor X?Again, in the four to five years I've listened to R&F I've heard R&F be willing to rag on, and criticize Earl.  (not as much as O&A did, but they have) Yes, he doesn't take it well on the air, but that hasn't stopped them.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 05:36 AM

quote:Really, when did they share that with you? Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor X? Things do not need to be carved in stone to be true.

EliSnow

12-22-2005, 05:44 AM

quote: quote: Really, when did they share that with you? Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor X? Things do not need to be carved in stone to be true. Talk about generalizations that mean crap.You made a statement about providing an alleged for reason for Ron and Fez's action.  Since you are clearly not Ron or Fez, you need to let us know how you know Ron and Fez's motivation.  Could it be true?  Yes, but unless you can prove it, then your statements means less than crap.<img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 08:43 AM

quote: quote: Really, when did they share that with you? Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor X? Things do not need to be carved in stone to be true. You're wrong.  Get over it.  The guy who started this stupid thread had to now it's your turn.

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12-22-2005, 09:12 AM

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12-22-2005, 09:14 AM

I like that whenever Earl gets his balls busted by R&F and he takes it with an "Oh, well you know" tone, he sounds just like Cigar Sid/Fat Baby in the same scenerio. You can never see him getting mad at them.I'd rather have hope in my soul than soap in my hole...

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 09:21 AM

quote: quote: quote: Really, when did they share that with you? Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor X? Things do not need to be carved in stone to be true. You're wrong.  Get over it.  The guy who started this stupid thread had to now it's your You're assuming that this guy is a different guy.  I got a feeling its the same guy. 

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Mike Teacher

12-22-2005, 11:00 AM

Professor X? = Wow thats good. I wanna be Professor X instead of Mike the Teacher. M the T sounds weak [in more ways then one] but damn, Professor X...Wasn't he the bad guy in 'Operation MindCrime'?[off to grab Queensrhyche]

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12-22-2005, 11:07 AM

You're assuming that this guy is a different guy.  I got a feeling its the same guy. <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" /> Very true.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 11:21 AM

quote:You made a statement about providing an alleged for reason for Ron and Fez's action. Since you are clearly not Ron or Fez, you need to let us know how you know Ron and Fez's motivation. Could it be true? Yes, but unless you can prove it, then your statements means less than crap MrTerrific on 12-22-05 @ 9:46 AMI never claimed to read anyone's mind. When you resort to the argument "prove that you know what they are thinking" you are clearly out of ideas.  I could demand you PROVE that this is NOT what they are thinking just as easily. 

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curtoid

12-22-2005, 11:51 AM

quote: You're assuming that this guy is a different guy.  I got a feeling its the same guy. It's interesting that the only time Guy #1 didn't have a snappy comeback was when I called him out on this earlier (which turned out to be his last post in this thread)...it's also interesting that both he and Guy #2 share low post counts even though both registered on here in 2003.Hmmmm...where have I seen that before? Hmmmmmm...2003? Shame on y.<img src="http://www.willowfriend.com/Pictures/AMC%20Pictures/Ericia/E10.jpg" border="0" />Bottom line - Earl rules. He will be with the show until there is no more show ever, anywhere, and even then I just picture him flinging himself into the grave and onto the coffin, sobbing like he's Erica Kane. It's just too bad it's taken so many of us so long to learn that he had this in him. I'd rather have hope in my soul than soap in my hole...

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 11:54 AM

quote: I never claimed to read anyone's mind. When you resort to the argument "prove that you know what they are thinking" you are clearly out of ideas.  I could demand you PROVE that this is NOT what they are thinking just as easily. My argument was for you to prove your claim.  You're the one who claimed to know the reason why they treat Earl like they do, with no proof as to that reason.  The only way you could know the reason is if they told you that the reason.  If you look back at my post you will see that is the first thing I said.As for my statement about you reading their minds, as Foghorn Leghorn would say "That was, I say, that was a joke, son."Also, it's generally the burden of the person who makes a claim to be the one to be back it up. Which is why the government has to prove that someone they claim is guilty of a crime is actually guilty of a crime. You make the claim, back it up.  If not, keep quiet.

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Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 12:03 PM

Also, it's generally the burden of the person who makes a claim to be the one to be back it up. Which is why the government has to prove that someone they claim is guilty of a crime is actually guilty of a crime. You make the claim, back it up.  If not, keep quiet.Basically, that's the whole argument here.  Someone came in with a bullshit claim, had nothing to back it up and got called on it.  Bottom line.Now shut up.

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 12:05 PM

quote: Professor X? = Wow thats good. I wanna be Professor X instead of Mike the Teacher. M the T sounds weak [in more ways then one] but damn, Professor X...Wasn't he the bad guy in 'Operation MindCrime'?[off to grab Queensrhyche]<img src="http://members.aol.com/miketeachr/esig" border="0" /> I'd like to claim credit for it, but Professor X is the nickname of the founder of the comic book superhero team, the X-Men and is someone who did have telepathic powers.  But if you want to grab Professor X, go for it.After all, if the Heckler can become Blowhard, you should bea able to change your moniker. <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 02:15 PM

quote:My argument was for you to prove your claim. You're the one who claimed to know the reason why they treat Earl like they do, with no proof as to that reason.  It is obvious that you are a wanna be lawyer with these unrelated arguments. I have to PROVE everything to you. I think Earl should give up, the show would benefit. Ron and Fez like Earl as a friend and are giving him a chance. Do I have to preface eveything with "in my opinion." You can argue that nothing anyone says is a "proveable fact." Keep grasping at straws. 

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 02:39 PM

quote: It is obvious that you are a wanna be lawyer with these unrelated arguments. I have to PROVE everything to you. I think Earl should give up, the show would benefit. Ron and Fez like Earl as a friend and are giving him a chance. Do I have to preface eveything with "in my opinion." You can argue that nothing anyone says is a "proveable fact." Keep grasping at straws.  First, I am a lawyer.  Second, I didn't ask you to prove everything.  I asked you to prove a fact that you claimed - that Ron and Fez treat Earl the way they do because he is fragile  You stated that as a fact, and not your opinion.   However, if even it was your opinion, I can ask you to prove the basis for your opinion. I could opine that Ron is a transvestite, but I had better be prepared for people to challenge me on how I came to that opinion.  It's clear you can't.  And by the way, my arguments aren't unrelated despite your attempts at painting them as such.  You came here with an argument.  I attacked the validity of your argument, and you couldn't come up with any support for your argument, other than to say that my arguments are unrelated and wannabe lawyer logic.   Again, If you have an argument,  back it up. if you can't, you shouldn't make it in the first place. 

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PanterA

12-22-2005, 03:24 PM

You're saying because Earl isnt a very good character that makes him useless to the show? You're out of your mind. Earl does ALOT and is dedicated. When he says he would do anything for them, he means it.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 04:19 PM

quote: First, I am a lawyer. Did I call that one or what ? You are not impressing anyone with you complex tangental arguments.  I don't have to prove ANYTHING to you.  I THINK that Ron and Fez treat Earl differently becuase they see that he is very fragile and does not take critcism well.  

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 04:26 PM

quote:You're saying because Earl isnt a very good character that makes him useless to the show? You're out of your mind. Earl does ALOT and is dedicated. When he says he would do anything for them, he means it.Earl is bad on the air.  What does he do behind the scenes ?  I am sure Earl is dedicated but that is not really enough.  His defense when criticized is always "I love being here and I appreciate the opportunity"  that is all well and good but not enough.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 04:34 PM

quote:However, if even it was your opinion, I can ask you to prove the basis for your opinion. I could opine that Ron is a transvestite, but I had better be prepared for people to challenge me on how I came to that opinion. It's clear you can't. And by the way, my arguments aren't unrelated despite your attempts at painting them as such. You came here with an argument. I attacked the validity of your argument, and you couldn't come up with any support for your argument, other than to say that my arguments are unrelated and wannabe lawyer logic.It is not my goal to convince you or anything or provide evidence for what I feel is obvious. Earl is bad for the show, RF know it, but are being as tolerant as possible becuase they are friends. They are hoping things will get better.  They will not be openly critical becuase Earl gets very defensive and does not take it well.  They hope this friendly positive reinforcement will make things better.   The basis of what you are saying is wrapped up in "fact" versus "opinion." I never stated anything as a concrete fact, this is what I think based on what I hear during the show. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 04:36 PM

A lot of this is getting like Earl not being able to tell Harry what was wrong that day.  What EXACTLY has Earl done excpet book a few mediocre guests ?  There has been a lot of talk that he works "behind the scenes" and is "dedicated" but what does he do ?  He couldn't even get computers for the staff.  Earl is not a leader.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 04:47 PM

quote:Really, when did they share that with you? Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor X This is actually how you challenged what I stated as my opinion. Do I really need RF to tell me that Earl is doing a bad job for Earl to actually be DOING a bad job. 



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earlscock

12-22-2005, 04:52 PM

I find nothing wrong with Earl.   He adds a great deal to the show.  I love the Oh well attitude that he has.   WE NEED EARL!!!!

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12-22-2005, 04:55 PM

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 04:56 PM

quote:I find nothing wrong with Earl. He adds a great deal to the show. I love the Oh well attitude that he has. WE NEED EARL!!!!

 Again.  Nothing specific about his contributions (I admit Anthony Bourdain was excellent but it was Ron's idea).  His "oh well" attitude is what makes him a bad leader and a negative force for the show.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 05:05 PM

quote:My argument was for you to prove your claim. You're the one who claimed to know the reason why they treat Earl like they do, with no proof as to that reason. The only way you could know the reason is if they told you that the reason. If you look back at my post you will see that is the first thing I said. This is you arguing about the argumnet and not the subject. The only valid "proof" you will accept is if RF tell me directly so by default you are always right, great.  You can place as many debate rules as you want, it dosen't matter. Typical lawyer. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 05:11 PM

quote:Still you have a good point, and it's probably closer to to 99.99% of the board know less than R&F. Thank God that people like you in the .01 % are here to explain it all.  Wouldn't Ron have to tell you this directly for it to be true ?

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 05:13 PM

Black Earl...he's a genuine lazy bum.  RF like this song becuase it is true.  Why would anyone think that a new  job title would change that ?

FUNKMAN

12-22-2005, 05:25 PM

maybe there can be only one Earl in New York?<img src="http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/img/earlmonroe1.JPG" border="0" />EDIT: i'll leave the pic but i just noticed Tork got one in the other Earl thread... gotta give him his props  <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/fm3_sig.jpg" border="0" />

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 05:51 PM

quote: This is you arguing about the argumnet and not the subject. The only valid "proof" you will accept is if RF tell me directly so by default you are always right, great.  You can place as many debate rules as you want, it dosen't matter. Typical lawyer.   My comments have been all about the subject. You made a claim - Ron and Fez treat Earl because he's fragile.  You offer no proof for that claim - none at all.   Regardless of what proof I will accept, you offer none.   It would be different if you offer something, and I didn't accept it. but that's not what happened.Do you know how you can tell what someone can't support their position or argument?  They attack the person arguing with them (as you have done b by calling me a typical lawyer or a wannabe lawyer) and insult their arguments with negative phrases, such as "grasping at straws" or unrelevant" without addressing the merits of the argument, as you have done as well.  You can keep going on and on as much as you want, but your arguments convince no one here.  So go on calling me and my position names.  In the end, you have convinced no one here, and by the responses I have seen, people agree with my argument.  <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" /> 

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 05:53 PM

quote: quote: Still you have a good point, and it's probably closer to to 99.99% of the board know less than R&F. Thank God that people like you in the .01 % are here to explain it all.  Wouldn't Ron have to tell you this directly for it to be true ? Nope, because none of my comments addressed what Ron was thinking or what his motivation was.  And I never said I know as much as or more about radio.  What I do know is that Ron knows more, and if he thinks Earl is doing a good job, so much so that he calls him one of three pernament members of the R&F team, well then I'll accept his word because he knows more than me.  Which if you read my posts, was my point all along.

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 06:07 PM

quote:  quote: Really, when did they share that with you? Or is your mutant telepathy allowing you to read their minds, Professor XThis is actually how you challenged what I stated as my opinion. Do I really need RF to tell me that Earl is doing a bad job for Earl to actually be DOING a bad job. This message was edited by GreyHoodyShirt on 12-22-05 @ 8:48 PM No, but my challenge wasn't to your claim that Earel was doing a bad job.  Your claim was that they treated him nicely because he was fragile.   That you would need to know Ron and Fez's thinking and motivation. No, but my challenge wasn't to your claim that Earel was doing a bad job.  Your claim was that they treated him nicely because he was fragile.   That you would need to know Ron and Fez's thinking and motivation.

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 06:10 PM

quote:  quote:  First, I am a lawyer. This is clearly more about you proving that you are a genius lawyer and that debate team was not a waste of time than it is about you PROVING that Earl is good for the show.    This is your forum to prove yourself a master of the art of debate while stunnig us all with your rapier wit.   I just think Earl brings the show down. I don't have to prove Earl is good for the show but I did anyway.  I offered proof that  Ron and Fez said he was doing a great job.  You said that they did so because he was fragile.  I challenged your proof that this was the reason for your comments.  You never provided support for it. <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 06:14 PM

quote: Black Earl...he's a genuine lazy bum.  RF like this song becuase it is true.  Yes, and Ron loves the Fatty Pneumonia song because he knows that Fez made love to a cupcake.  And everything he busts Fez about is true as well.  As someone else said learn the bit.<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">Why would anyone think that a new  job title would change that ?[/quote]That is a good question.  If R&F and Opie really thought Earl was a genuine lazy bum, why would Opie recommend, and R&F accept, Earl as a producer?  They didn't need to.  Earl didn't need the job.  I guess the reason is because they knew he wasn't a lazy bum, and that he had the ability to do a good job.  Which as their own comments reflected, he has.

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EliSnow

12-22-2005, 06:18 PM

quote:   quote: It is not my goal to convince you or anything or provide evidence for what I feel is obvious. Earl is bad for the show, RF know it, but are being as tolerant as possible becuase they are friends. They are hoping things will get better.  They will not be openly critical becuase Earl gets very defensive and does not take it well.  They hope this friendly positive reinforcement will make things better.  If it's not your goal to persuade or convince people, then why post?Also you again, you talk about what R&F know and why they treat Earl the way they do.  Please tell me why you believe that.   I can point to comment upon comment by R&F showing that they think Earl is doing a great job.  Your only response is essentially that they don't mean it.  So tell, me please, how do you know that they don't mean it? 

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12-22-2005, 06:34 PM

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12-22-2005, 06:41 PM

quote: you guys need to keep it down. Earls gonna hear you. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/unsure.gif" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/skins.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.perrynoid.com/" target="blank">Perrynoid</a> Yeah, Perry, you're right. I'm getting carried away. 

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Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 09:29 PM

ATTENTION GREYHOODYSHIRT:You're one man war against Earl is fucking blowing up in your face.  You stink at backing up your claims and you're looking a little bit more than obsessed at this point.  You are just about alone in your belief that Earl is in any way bad for the show and no one treats him differently for any reason.Please continue having a man crush on Earl in private.

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12-22-2005, 09:48 PM

This thread needsh 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 09:49 PM

quote:My comments have been all about the subject. You made a claim - Ron and Fez treat Earl because he's fragile. You offer no proof for that claim - none at all. Regardless of what proof I will accept, you offer none. It would be different if you offer something, and I didn't accept it. but that's not what happened.Do you know how you can tell what someone can't support their position or argument? They attack the person arguing with them (as you have done b by calling me a typical lawyer or a wannabe lawyer) and insult their arguments with negative phrases, such as "grasping at straws" or unrelevant" without addressing the merits of the argument, as you have done as well. More arguments about the rules of arguing, beautiful.  Here is my proof: I HEAR how they treat Earl on the show....with kidgloves.  I don't think I said "unrelevant" despite the quotes you used.  I think you are pissed that I pegged you as a lawyer so easily.  Keep talking AROUND the subject rather than about the subject.  What makes Earl so great ?  I never attacked you, I just said you sound like a lawyer...I can see how that would be insulting.  It was so easy to pick up on that about you.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 09:50 PM

quote:You're one man war against Earl is fucking blowing up in your face. You stink at backing up your claims and you're looking a little bit more than obsessed at this point. You are just about alone in your belief that Earl is in any way bad for the show and no one treats him differently for any reason.

<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> I haven't seen anyone give a specific reason what Earl does that is so great for the show.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 09:53 PM

quote:That is a good question. If R&F and Opie really thought Earl was a genuine lazy bum, why would Opie recommend, and R&F accept, Earl as a producer? They didn't need to. Earl didn't need the job. I guess the reason is because they knew he wasn't a lazy bum, and that he had the ability to do a good job. Which as their own comments reflected, he has.

 Why are you stating these as facts ?Did Ron and Fez tell you this specifically ?  No ?  Then I guess you can't say it.  You guess the reason ?  Can you do that in court ?

FUNKMAN

12-22-2005, 09:53 PM

I haven't seen anyone give a specific reason what Earl does that is so great for the show.is this Harry?question: do you enjoy the show overall?

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 09:56 PM

quote:and if he thinks Earl is doing a good job, so much so that he calls him one of three pernament members of the R&F team, well then I'll accept his word because he knows more than me. Which if you read my posts, was my point all along. I would love to hear the "three permanent members of the team" audio clip and also Ron saying that this is a legally binding lifelong contract.  This is an example of either Ron stroking Earl's fragile ego or Ron trying to diffuse a situation where Earl cannot handle being criticized as in "even though you screwed up again Earl you know you are a part of this team."

Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 09:57 PM

Uhhh, you suck GreyHoodyShirt.  Shut the fuck up.  This isn't about Earl anymore.  You've turned it into something else.  You seem to have something else to prove now and it's pathetic.Shut your stupid mouth.  You want to act intelligent for some reason and you're failing at every turn.You are not smart.  Drop the act.

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12-22-2005, 09:58 PM

quote:Nope, because none of my comments addressed what Ron was thinking or what his motivation was. You implied repeatedly that Ron and Fez are completely happy with Earl as the producer and that they love what he is doing.  Your proof of this is that they don't chastize him openly on the air.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 09:59 PM

quote: how do you know that they don't mean it? How do you know that they do ?  Your proof for everything is that I am wrong becuase Ron and Fez didn't tell me. 

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Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 10:00 PM

This is an example of either Ron stroking Earl's fragile ego or Ron trying to diffuse a situation where Earl cannot handle being criticized as in "even though you screwed up again Earl you know you are a part of this team." More proof you're ignorant.  Ron attacks FEZ!  His partner for YEARS when it suits him or the moment.  What makes you think he's going to give ANY slack to Earl?  God you're a fool.

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12-22-2005, 10:02 PM

Hey asshole.  Go to sleep.  The thread will be here for you to pick apart and reply to carefully tomorrow.  You don't have to sit up guarding it like you're the last line of defense between.... well to be honest I have no idea what you're fighting at this point.  You sir, stink and I don't like you.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:02 PM

quote:Uhhh, you suck GreyHoodyShirt. Shut the fuck up. This isn't about Earl anymore. You've turned it into something else. You seem to have something else to prove now and it's pathetic.Shut your stupid mouth. You want to act intelligent for some reason and you're failing at every turn.You are not smart. Drop the act.<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a>The terriffic lawyer turned this into the showcase for his debate skills.  It turned into a court case about me having to PROVE what I see in the show.

suggums

12-22-2005, 10:03 PM

At least post all your quoted responses in 1 post for the sake of space, ShirtEDIT: Where the hell did Pete go anyways? 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:03 PM

quote: More proof you're ignorant. Ron attacks FEZ! His partner for YEARS when it suits him or the moment.<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> Fez can take it.  Earl can't.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:07 PM

Earl is bad for the show. Proof: The show was better without Earl (remember Ron said this on the air).  They did a whole "bit" about how the show was better (or at least fine) without Earl.  Earl could not take it.  He almost ran out of the room to "collect his thoughts" but Ron stopped him.  Then all of a sudden he was freezing cold and needed Green Tea. Even 30 mins later he was complaining about how freezing he was and how much he was suffering.  IN MY OPINION this was his reaction to criticism...to fake sick for sympathy.  I am sure he was cold but he was not dying. RF backed off and lil Earl got his way. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:09 PM

quote:Yeah, Perry, you're right. I'm getting carried awayYou proved to everyone what lawyers are like.

Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 10:10 PM

quote: quote: Uhhh, you suck GreyHoodyShirt. Shut the fuck up. This isn't about Earl anymore. You've turned it into something else. You seem to have something else to prove now and it's pathetic.Shut your stupid mouth. You want to act intelligent for some reason and you're failing at every turn.You are not smart. Drop the act.<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com/"></a>The terriffic lawyer turned this into the showcase for his debate skills.  It turned into a court case about me having to PROVE what I see in the show. No, the "Terrific Lawyer" used his debate skills to school your ass and demand proof because the burden of proof is really on the people who accuse Earl of being bad for the show.  The rest of us like him.Go to sleep. 

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Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 10:12 PM

quote:  quote: Yeah, Perry, you're right. I'm getting carried away You proved to everyone what lawyers are like.  Why do you have lawyer envy?  And you're going to have 2000 posts in this thread alone because you're picking apart every sentence one post at a time.  Awful.And boring!  No one cares what you think of Earl, and you still haven't given us ANYTHING.  Just a lot of double talk and Newspeak. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:14 PM

quote:No, the "Terrific Lawyer" used his debate skills to school your ass and demand proof Proof Earl is bad for the show : When he was late RF repeatedly said the show was fine without him.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:15 PM

quote:Why do you have lawyer envy? <a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> It was just classic that is was so easy to peg him as a lawyer becuase he wanted to prove his arguing skills and tactics so much.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:17 PM

quote:And boring! No one cares what you think of Earl, and you still haven't given us ANYTHING. Just a lot of double talk and Newspeak. 

<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> You keep reading it.  Newspeak ?  Irrelavant literary reference that does not apply.

Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 10:17 PM

quote: quote: No, the "Terrific Lawyer" used his debate skills to school your ass and demand proof Proof Earl is bad for the show : When he was late RF repeatedly said the show was fine without him. Earl's system of running the show was in place and they executed it while he was out.  Or it turns out that the rest of the staff has skills to.  You really have no idea what you're talking about and it becomes clearer and clearer with every one of your posts.But I'm done playing your game.  I have things to do tomorrow.  Keep this argument up with yourself if you like.  I don't care what you think of Earl.  He's not going anywhere.  Deal with it or flush your radio down the toilet, buy a Sirius and fuck your mother. 

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Death Metal Moe

12-22-2005, 10:18 PM

quote: quote: And boring! No one cares what you think of Earl, and you still haven't given us ANYTHING. Just a lot of double talk and Newspeak. <a href="http://www.unhallowed.com/"></a> You keep reading it.  Newspeak ?  Irrelavant literary reference that does not apply. Some nights it's fun to poke the retard with a stick to see how aggitated he gets.And there's never a bad time to reference 1984. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:21 PM

quote:Earl's system of running the show was in place and they executed it while he was out. Or it turns out that the rest of the staff has skills to. Earl is now the Bill Belichick of XM Radio with the perfect "system"  I guess the staff DOES have some skill despite Earl say that they "don't have their heads in the game."  In fact, the argument could be made that they even MORE on the "same page" WITHOUT Earl to slow the "system" down.  Verdict:  Show without Earl is better (Remember Ron and Fez repeatedly said this that day)

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:22 PM

quote:And there's never a bad time to reference 1984. 

<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> What about when it dosen't apply ?

GreyHoodyShirt

12-22-2005, 10:25 PM

Joking about how the show ran fine without Earl was a nice, lighthearted way to let Earl know that he needs to "step it up"  Earl couldn't even handle THIS criticism and he started up with all of the comments like "I need to collect my thoughts" and "I am freezing"  He squirmed his way out of having to take some abuse on the air but I hope it was a wake up call.  And oh yeah, I don't like his "baby" catchphrase.  Also, Ron said it was "not going over"  I agree.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 04:50 AM

quote: How do you know that they do ?  Your proof for everything is that I am wrong becuase Ron and Fez didn't tell me. This message was edited by GreyHoodyShirt on 12-23-05 @ 2:00 AMHow do I know they do?  Simple, in the four years I've listened to Ron and Fez, they have always criticized screw-ups from the people running their show - even from their friends, such as Mikey D or Billy.  Sometimes, they even make a bit of it by exagerrating the person's incompetence or screw-up, even when the person is fragile, which sometimes Billy was, as seen by his going missing for days and weeks after a failure.However, they have never made a bit when someone does a good job.  That they will recognize and praise the person for.  And they have praised Earl for his work on the show.  They have called him a good producer and said he's doing a great job.  There is nothing out there to make me doubt their word.  Furthermore, if Ron and Fez don't criticize or make fun of Earl because he is so fragile that they can't take bad comments from his friend, as you say, then why does R&F love the Black Earl song, which makes fun of Earl, and play it on the show, as you have pointed out?  So there you have it.  That's my basis for my claim that Ron and Fez believe Earl is a great producer.  As I said before, forget about whether Ron & Fez told you their feelings, offer some basis for your claim that Ron and Fez don't mean what they say.   So far, you have offered nothing.  This is my last post on the matter, since I've made my point a number of times, and I don't want to bore others with constant repitition of the same old argument, or insults or vague putdowns.

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Death Metal Moe

12-23-2005, 05:03 AM

It's really sad to see a person just NOT get the bit.  Just NOT get the show.  Fucking terrible.  Honestly.  Does this asshole also think they really don't like Harry?  No one would stay in their positions if they weren't delivering at least minimum results, and Ron and Fez are so honest about how they feel I don't know why we shouldn't believe them when they say Earl is the best they've had.You thinking otherwise is actually you calling Ron and Fez liars.  Do you think Ron and Fez are liars?  Do you think they're covering up something, for the 1st time in their careers?You still have nothing.

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mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 05:04 AM

quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">Earl is bad for the show. Proof: The show was better without Earl (remember Ron said this on the air).ÿ They did a whole "bit" about how the show was better (or at least fine) without Earl.ÿ Earl could not take it.ÿ He almost ran out of the room to "collect his thoughts" but Ron stopped him.ÿ Then all of a sudden he was freezing cold and needed Green Tea. Even 30 mins later he was complaining about how freezing he was and how much he was suffering.ÿ IN MY OPINION this was his reaction to criticismt...to fake sick for sympathy.ÿ I am sure he was cold but he was not dying. RF backed off and lil Earl got his way. 

This message was edited by GreyHoodyShirt on 12-23-05 @ 2:12 AM<hr color="cococo" align="left"> 

What a mess this thread has become. The reason everyone is banging their heads against the wall in responding to you is because you play fast and loose with what is fact and what is opinion. This statement: "Earl is bad for the show. Proof: The show was better without Earl (remember Ron said this on the air)." Says to me that you may not know the difference. You can't use as proof something that you objectively believe. Likewise, the fact that Ron made certain statements on the day when Earl was late doesn't make your statement fact. (As a side note, you choose to accept these statements, yet selectively ignore statements made by R&F praising Earl's work because, as you state, Earl can't take it. This doesn't make your proof any stronger.) I'm not going to bother going through your points one by one because you're just going to dismiss them, and anyone who has made it this far in this thread has already seen how transparent your statements/argument are.

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EliSnow

12-23-2005, 05:11 AM

quote: What a mess this thread has become. I'll take a little of the blame for that, if only because I shouldn't have risen to the bait and responded to each damn ridiculous claim this guy has made.   

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wehitandrun

12-23-2005, 07:03 AM

Well I'm going to agree that Earl makes the show worse. He brings it down and to a stop everytime his boring voice comes on air.The guy is terrible. Bring back Giant Brian. 

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12-23-2005, 07:05 AM

Earl likes Yankees so I likes Earl.

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booster11373

12-23-2005, 07:08 AM

It is my opinion after listening to last 2 weeks shows over a weekend, that there is a very strong racist undercurrent to most of the new XM callers, maybe they just get off hearing the N word on the radio.

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Doctor Manhattan

12-23-2005, 07:21 AM

quote: It is my opinion after listening to last 2 weeks shows over a weekend, that there is a very strong racist undercurrent to most of the new XM callers, maybe they just get off hearing the N word on the radio. I think they just want to trigger the "Rednecks" song.I said "Trigger"! 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 08:58 AM

quote:How do I know they do? Simple, in the four years I've listened to Ron and Fez SO now YOU know what they are thinking.  Awesome.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:00 AM

quote:Fucking terrible. Honestly. Does this asshole also think they really don't like Harry? Another unrelated point.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:02 AM

quote:I'll take a little of the blame for that, if only because I shouldn't have risen to the bait and responded to each damn ridiculous claim this guy has made. 

 I though you were done posting. Typical lawyer.  Make sure you show this thread to your clients to prove to them how great you are. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:06 AM

quote: 

What a mess this thread has become. The reason everyone is banging their heads against the wall in responding to you is because you play fast and loose with what is fact and what is opinion. The fabulous lawyer started all of the "fact vs, opinion" BS. Any proof I give for my argument is not good enough. The proof for the teriffic lawyer is "I have been listening to the show for years" and he knows how everything works. He thinks if RF don't say it specifically then it must not be true. If RF are unhappy with Earl then they must e-mail Mr Teriffic personally. <blockquote />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:07 AM

quote:quote:I'll take a little of the blame for that, if only because I shouldn't have risen to the bait and responded to each damn ridiculous claim this guy has made. 

 You are a real hero of the people and you have proven that you did not waste you money on law school.  Way to put your "skills" to good use.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:09 AM

quote:(As a side note, you choose to accept these statements, yet selectively ignore statements made by R&F praising Earl's work because, The teriffic lawyer does the opposite.  Selectivle ignoring when RF criticize Earl for REAL but I guess all of THOSE times it is just a joke.

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:09 AM

No, fact vs. opinion is important.  You do present things that are your opinion as fact, and that's why your arguments suck. Also, Mr. Terrific has a valid point, and your answer is to personally attack -- more shitty arguing.  Furthermore, if you're going to respond to many points in a row, it's really easy to do so in one post.edit:quote: quote: (As a side note, you choose to accept these statements, yet selectively ignore statements made by R&F praising Earl's work because, The teriffic lawyer does the opposite.  Selectivle ignoring when RF criticize Earl for REAL but I guess all of THOSE times it is just a joke. Oh, but you know what's real?  Ridiculous. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:10 AM

quote:Likewise, the fact that Ron made certain statements on the day when Earl was late doesn't make your statement fact. This was the "evidence" he asked for.  When did Ron SAY Earl was doing a bad job.  This was a 10 minute bit about how they did not need Earl.  It was NOT completely a joke.  But, when I give me "proof" is is deemed not good enough for you.  Your proof is not good enough for me.

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12-23-2005, 09:13 AM

I don't think you know what "proof" means.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:14 AM

quote: This statement: "Earl is bad for the show. Proof: The show was better without Earl (remember Ron said this on the air)." Says to me that you may not know the difference. You can't use as proof something that you objectively believe. More arguments about the RULES or arguing. So if Ron says 10 times "The show is better (or fine) without Earl" Then that means Earl is good for the show ?

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:15 AM

quote:No, fact vs. opinion is important. You do present things that are your opinion as fact, and that's why your arguments suck. Also, Mr. Terrific has a valid point, and your answer is to personally attack -- more shitty arguing. Furthermore, if you're going to respond to many points in a row, it's really easy to do so in one post.<a target="blank" href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/"></a> Mr Teriffic's "valid point" is that RF did not TELL me the info so it must not be true.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:16 AM

quote:I don't think you know what "proof" means. I know that no proof I offer will be deemed acceptable.

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:17 AM

quote: quote: No, fact vs. opinion is important. You do present things that are your opinion as fact, and that's why your arguments suck. Also, Mr. Terrific has a valid point, and your answer is to personally attack -- more shitty arguing. Furthermore, if you're going to respond to many points in a row, it's really easy to do so in one post.<a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank"></a> Mr Teriffic's "valid point" is that RF did not TELL me the info so it must not be true. No, his point is that just because you say something is true doesn't mean it is, and that ecompasses everything wrong with your argument. Mr Teriffic's "valid point" is that RF did not TELL me the info so it must not be true.No, his point is that just because you say something is true doesn't mean it is, and that ecompasses everything wrong with your argument.

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mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:18 AM

quote: quote: I don't think you know what "proof" means. I know that no proof I offer will be deemed acceptable. Because you don't offer proof.  You offer shitty persuasive authority.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:19 AM

quote:No, fact vs. opinion is important. You do present things that are your opinion as fact<a target="blank" href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/"></a>Mr Terriffic's argumnent is that "you are implying that everything you say is fact"  Everything here is people's opinion.  His only way to say that I am wrong is by saying "that is not a fact"  Well the opposite is not a fact either.  It is true that the ONLY way to know what RF are thinking is to BE RF.  But that doesn't make speculation and discussion invalid.

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:20 AM

quote: quote: No, fact vs. opinion is important. You do present things that are your opinion as fact<a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank"></a>Mr Terriffic's argumnent is that "you are implying that everything you say is fact"  Everything here is people's opinion.  His only way to say that I am wrong is by saying "that is not a fact"  Well the opposite is not a fact either.  It is true that the ONLY way to know what RF are thinking is to BE RF.  But that doesn't make speculation and discussion invalid. Everything flies right over your head.  <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:21 AM

quote:No, his point is that just because you say something is true doesn't mean it is, and that ecompasses everything wrong with your argument.

Wrong.  His point was that RF did not tell me something therefore I cannot infer it myself.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:23 AM

quote:Everything flies right over your head. Sounds like you gave up.  I can say something, and it can be true.  Even if I do not give you a heap of "proof" that you deem acceptable.

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:25 AM

quote: quote: Everything flies right over your head. Sounds like you gave up.  I can say something, and it can be true.  Even if I do not give you a heap of "proof" that you deem acceptable. So, if you tell me the sky is green, I have to take your word for it?  You don't get it.  <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:26 AM

quote:No, fact vs. opinion is important. You do present things that are your opinion as fact Your statements come off that way too. Everyone's do if you have that mindset.  People don't have to say "in my opinion" before every sentence.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:26 AM

quote: quote: No, his point is that just because you say something is true doesn't mean it is, and that ecompasses everything wrong with your argument. Wrong.  His point was that RF did not tell me something therefore I cannot infer it myself. Virtually since my second post, I have stepped back from my first post that they needed to tell you how they felt, and simply asked you for your basis for your opinion.  You can infer it for youself,  but as I've asked  you time and time again, what's your basis for your inference that Ron and Fez didn't mean any of their comments that Earl was doing a great job?So, why don't we forget everything else and just go to the basic point - what is the basis for your inference?  I provided mine, let's see yours.<img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:27 AM

quote:I don't think you know what "proof" means.

 You are stating this as a fact but is it really your opinion ?

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:28 AM

quote:Says to me that you may not know the difference. <a target="blank" href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com"></a> 
 But you DO know the difference.  Another example of the proof I offer is not good enough.

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:29 AM

In a nutshell, just because you selectively believe things you hear on the show because you have a subjective belief in the changing quality of the show does not magically give you the ability to state definitively that Earl is a good or bad producer.  Do the rest of us know this definitively, no, and no one pretended that they did.As for what goes on behind the scenes -- you know dick.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:31 AM

I STILL have not seen anyone say what EXACTLY Earl has done that is so great for the show.  No one here knows what goes on behind the scence but what is out there on the air for the public is evidence that Earl does very little for the show unless you can provide "evidence" to the contrary.  RF giving the occasional compiment is not evidence that Earl is great for the show.

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:31 AM

quote: quote: I don't think you know what "proof" means. You are stating this as a fact but is it really your opinion ? I'm speaking of the definition. [edit], and when I say "I don't think" that means opinion.quote: quote: Says to me that you may not know the difference. <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank"></a> But you DO know the difference.  Another example of the proof I offer is not good enough. I know the difference, by definition, between opinion and fact.  I think we covered that by junior high. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:32 AM

quote:So, if you tell me the sky is green, I have to take your word for it? You don't get it.How stupid.  That is not a parallel argument at all and you know it.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:33 AM

quote:Virtually since my second post, I have stepped back from my first post that they needed to tell you how they felt, and simply asked you for your basis for your opinion. You can infer it for youself, but as I've asked you time and time again, what's your basis for your inference that Ron and Fez didn't mean any of their comments that Earl was doing a great job? You are so nobale and honorable. What does Earl do for the show that is so great ?  I think RF are unhappy with Earl and they brought this up (in a fun way) when he was late.  Other times RF have gotten onm Earl he has completely shut down.  Remeber when OA got on his case and he didn't speak for a month.  RF know to handle this guy with kid gloves and give him a swift kick in the ass without being too mean. 

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mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:34 AM

quote: quote: So, if you tell me the sky is green, I have to take your word for it? You don't get it. How stupid.  That is not a parallel argument at all and you know it. Sure it was ridiculous, but it's relevant.  Just because you state, based on your opinions, that Earl is a bad producer doesn't make it fact. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

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EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:35 AM

quote:  I STILL have not seen anyone say what EXACTLY Earl has done that is so great for the show.  No one here knows what goes on behind the scence but what is out there on the air for the public is evidence that Earl does very little for the show unless you can provide "evidence" to the contrary.  RF giving the occasional compiment is not evidence that Earl is great for the show. R&F gave more than the occassional comment.  Almost every other show in the first month had them discussing Earl's great work.  Compare that on the other hand to the very few bad comments they have given him. That is evidence that Earl is great for the show.  When a boss consistently says that someone who works for him is doing a great job are you telling me that isn't evidence that the employee is actually doing a great job?

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EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:36 AM

quote: quote: Virtually since my second post, I have stepped back from my first post that they needed to tell you how they felt, and simply asked you for your basis for your opinion. You can infer it for youself, but as I've asked you time and time again, what's your basis for your inference that Ron and Fez didn't mean any of their comments that Earl was doing a great job? You are so nobale and honorable.  Just so we're clear.  I've asked you how you for the basis for your argument, and your response is to insult me.   <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:39 AM

quote:R&F gave more than the occassional comment. Almost every other show in the first month had them discussing Earl's great work. Compare that on the other hand to the very few bad comments they have given him. That is evidence that Earl is great for the show. When a boss consistently says that someone who works for him is doing a great job are you telling me that isn't evidence that the employee is actually doing a great job?

Just becuase RF praise Earl on air does not mean they are satisfied with the work he is doing.  This is not proof.  They are not obligated to tell you or the audience what is wrong with the show, RF have kept this stuff off the air.  From the little jabs RF give Earl and the work that he does for the show that ends up on air (none) I get the feeling that RF would like Earl to step it up.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:41 AM

quote:Just so we're clear. I've asked you how you for the basis for your argument, and your response is to insult me. My answer was "I listen to the show and this is what I think"  you said the same but got all wrapped up in your belief that I thought everything I was saying was a fact.  This is an argument about arguing and not the topic.    Earl is bad for the show.  Ron said "The show runs better without Earl"

mikeyboy

12-23-2005, 09:41 AM

quote: Just becuase RF praise Earl on air does not mean they are satisfied with the work he is doing.  This is not proof.  Well, duh. quote: They are not obligated to tell you or the audience what is wrong with the show, RF have kept this stuff off the air.  From the little jabs RF give Earl and the work that he does for the show that ends up on air (none) I get the feeling that RF would like Earl to step it up.  Now you're getting how it works.Earl is bad for the show.  Ron said "The show runs better without Earl" Oops.  So close. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.thereisnoradio.com/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show now on There is No Radio</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:43 AM

quote:That is evidence that Earl is great for the show. When a boss consistently says that someone who works for him is doing a great job are you telling me that isn't evidence that the employee is actually doing a great job A boss has no responsiblity to tell a customer (you) when an employee is doing a bad job.  It is none of your business. Another case of your argument of "if Ron dosen't tell you then it is not true"

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:45 AM

quote: They are not obligated to tell you or the audience what is wrong with the show, RF have kept this stuff off the air. From the little jabs RF give Earl and the work that he does for the show that ends up on air (none) I get the feeling that RF would like Earl to step it up. Now you're getting how it works. There it is. Every statement must be prefaced with the line "in my opinion" to avoid any semantics arguments with Mr Terriffic 

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EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:45 AM

quote: Just becuase RF praise Earl on air does not mean they are satisfied with the work he is doing.  This is not proof.  They are not obligated to tell you or the audience what is wrong with the show, RF have kept this stuff off the air.  From the little jabs RF give Earl and the work that he does for the show that ends up on air (none) I get the feeling that RF would like Earl to step it up. Actually, what R&F say on the air is proof.  Yes, they are not obligated to tell me anything about how Earl is doing, but that doesn't mean that their comments are false.  Also your own post demonsttrates that what they say on the air is proof.   The basis you offer is jabs that R&F give Earl.  How is insults to Earl proof, but compliments are not?

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:46 AM

quote:  quote:Earl is bad for the show. Ron said "The show runs better without Earl"  Oops. So close. Mr Terriffic asked "when did Ron tell you that Earl was bad for the show ?"  He did it 10 times.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:47 AM

quote:Actually, what R&F say on the air is proof. I agree.  Ron said "the show runs better without Earl"  This is proof.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:47 AM

quote: A boss has no responsiblity to tell a customer (you) when an employee is doing a bad job.  It is none of your business. A boss may have no responsibility to tell anyone, but if they do volunteer such information, that is still evidence that the person is doing well.<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">Another case of your argument of "if Ron dosen't tell you then it is not true"[/quote]Actually, what I am saying is that if Ron does tell you something, it's true.  Keep trying to twist my words, but it won't work. <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:48 AM

quote:How is insults to Earl proof, but compliments are not?Are you making fun of the way Earl talks ?  Grammar Police.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:50 AM

quote:Actually, what I am saying is that if Ron does tell you something, it's true.  I agree.  Ron  DID say "the show is better without Earl"  Therefore since Ron said it ( 10 times), it is true.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:51 AM

quote: quote: How is insults to Earl proof, but compliments are not?Are you making fun of the way Earl talks ?  Grammar Police. Now, who isn't sticking to the argument?  

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:52 AM

quote:A boss may have no responsibility to tell anyone, but if they do volunteer such information, that is still evidence that the person is doing well. Where is the evidence that Earl is doing well.  What EXACLTY has he done.  I see you bave bypassed this point several times becuase there are no examples of what Earl has done so great for the show.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:53 AM

quote: I agree.  Ron  DID say "the show is better without Earl"  Therefore since Ron said it ( 10 times), it is true. The number of times Ron has praised Earl's work outnumbers the ten times he said this comment, which was part of the bit.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:53 AM

quote:Now, who isn't sticking to the argument? You let it go a long time ago when your whole point became. "Nothing you say is a FACT" 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:55 AM

quote:The number of times Ron has praised Earl's work outnumbers the ten times he said this comment, which was part of the bit.

 SO I guess we put all the compliments on a acale and which ever one weighs more is true.  They could be happy with Earl one day and unhappy the next.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:56 AM

quote:The number of times Ron has praised Earl's work outnumbers the ten times he said this comment, which was part of the bit.

More of you reading Ron's mind as to what he "really means"  One insult to 10 compiments if RF being nice to Earl becuase he is so emotionally fragile.

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12-23-2005, 09:56 AM

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EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:57 AM

quote: Where is the evidence that Earl is doing well.  What EXACLTY has he done.  I see you bave bypassed this point several times becuase there are no examples of what Earl has done so great for the show. I didn't bypass this comment.  I don't know because I'm not behind the scenes where Earl is doing the work.  From the beginning, my evidence that Earl has been doing well has been Ron and Fez's repeated comments.  They are the ones who know best who is doing a good job and who isn't.  Their comments carry the most weight as to this. And since they have stated that Earl is doing a good job many more times than they have said he is not doing a good job, I'll believe their comments.  That's my basis.  Take it or leave it, there it is.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:57 AM

Still no evidence of what Earl has done.  Interesting.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 09:59 AM

quote: You let it go a long time ago when your whole point became. "Nothing you say is a FACT" This message was edited by GreyHoodyShirt on 12-23-05 @ 1:55 PM Regardless of whether I did that or not, you criticized me for doing that.  Since you did the same thing, shouldn't you be criticized as well?

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 09:59 AM

quote:From the beginning, my evidence that Earl has been doing well has been Ron and Fez's repeated comments. They are the ones who know best who is doing a good job and who isn't. Their comments carry the most weight as to this. What about the repeated comments that he is doing a bad job.  You dismiss there becuase there are not enough of them for you, but they are there, and they are not ALL jokes.'  Of course RF know more about the situation then everyone here. But that does not make me wrong.

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 10:00 AM

quote: quote: The number of times Ron has praised Earl's work outnumbers the ten times he said this comment, which was part of the bit.More of you reading Ron's mind as to what he "really means"  One insult to 10 compiments if RF being nice to Earl becuase he is so emotionally fragile.   No, it isn't.  It's comparing the number of statements made.  I don't need to read Ron's mind to do that. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:00 AM

quote:I didn't bypass this comment. I don't know because I'm not behind the scenes where Earl is doing the workYou have admitted that you do not know what Earl does for the show. The evidence is that he does nothing and you have provided nothing to the contratry.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:00 AM

quote: Regardless of whether I did that or not, you criticized me for doing that. You did it.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:02 AM

quote:No, it isn't. It's comparing the number of statements made. I don't need to read Ron's mind to do that. I would like to see your numerical breakdown of insults vs. praise.  Or is this another opinion presented as fact ?

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 10:04 AM

quote: What about the repeated comments that he is doing a bad job.  You dismiss there becuase there are not enough of them for you, but they are there, and they are not ALL jokes.' No, I don't dismiss them because there are not enough.  I don't think they represent what he has done, because I have heard many more times from Ron that he is doing well. We're running in circles, and I'm sick of posting the same thing over and over again.  You can have your opinion, and I have mine.  Let's check back in a year, and see if Earl is still there. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:05 AM

quote: Regardless of whether I did that or not, you criticized me for doing that. Since you did the same thing, You said that I presented issues as "facts"  Everything here is someone's opinion.  Except for you becuase you have all of this concrete evidence of why Earl is good for the show.  Oh wait, you still haven't addressed that.  WHAT DOES EARL DO ?

EliSnow

12-23-2005, 10:06 AM

quote: You have admitted that you do not know what Earl does for the show. The evidence is that he does nothing and you have provided nothing to the contratry. This message was edited by GreyHoodyShirt on 12-23-05 @ 2:02 PM<div align="center"></div> It's not evidence that he has done nothing, because I have no idea what is all done behind the scenes for the show.  As a result, I could have no knowledge of what he does, but he could be doing 90% of the work.  I don't know everything Bill Gates does for Microsoft, but isn't evidence that he does nothing for them.

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EliSnow

12-23-2005, 10:07 AM

quote: You said that I presented issues as "facts"  Everything here is someone's opinion.  Except for you becuase you have all of this concrete evidence of why Earl is good for the show.  Oh wait, you still haven't addressed that.  WHAT DOES EARL DO ?  Actually I did address this.  Read above.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:09 AM

quote:  No, I don't dismiss them because there are not enough. I don't think they represent what he has done, because I have heard many more times from Ron that he is doing well. We're running in circles, and I'm sick of posting the same thing over and over again. You can have your opinion, and I have mine. Let's check back in a year, and see if Earl is still there. You said you were done with this.  Fact.  You are a liar because you are still posting. Fact.   You are posting the same thing over and over becuase you can't think of ONE thing Earl has done for the show.   When did RF compliment him on something specific that he did on his own ?  If Earl is still there, it is not becuase he is doing a great job.  It is becuase RF are his friends and, as stated by Ron, hiring him was a favor for Opie.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:11 AM

quote:It's not evidence that he has done nothing, because I have no idea what is all done behind the scenes for the show. As a result, I could have no knowledge of what he does, but he could be doing 90% of the work. I don't know everything Bill Gates does for Microsoft, but isn't evidence that he does nothing You have no idea what he does but you defend that he is doing a great job.  I gather from the show that he does very little evidence by comments made by RF.  He COULD be doing 90% of the work, but that is obviously not the case.

suggums

12-23-2005, 10:12 AM

Grey-At what point did you work at XM Studios to acquire such incredible background info on all our radio buddays?Or have you just been listening to the show like the rest of us, and don't really know the truth about any of this? 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:13 AM

What has Earl done for the show ?  No one knows, no one has come up with anything.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:15 AM

quote:At what point did you work at XM Studios to acquire such incredible background info on all our radio buddays?I didn't mention any backgound info.  I listen to the show and this is what I think.  I was then atacked becuase SOMEONE said "what you are saying is not a fact"  Then it became a lawyer trying to prove how great he is but had nothing to stand on other than "RF are nice to Earl therefore he is a great producer"

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:16 AM

quote:Or have you just been listening to the show like the rest of us, and don't really know the truth about any of this? Exaclty, this is ALL specualtion. But whatever I say is dismissed becuase it is not "a fact" and the proof I give (that Ron said "the show is better without Earl) is deemed not good enough. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 10:23 AM

quote:quote: You said that I presented issues as "facts" Everything here is someone's opinion. Except for you becuase you have all of this concrete evidence of why Earl is good for the show. Oh wait, you still haven't addressed that. WHAT DOES EARL DO ? Actually I did address this. Read above. You addressed it by say "I don't know"  If he actually did something for the show it would be self evident and you could easily point it out.  There is NOTHING you can think of that Earl has done for the show.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 11:22 AM

quote:However, they have never made a bit when someone does a good job. Never ?  Actually wou are wrong.  You are presenting this as a fact when it is only your opinion.     How about the "Champ Belt"  ?  That was a bit about someone doing a good job.  How about the "Redskins Jacket" from the WJFK days ?  Same idea.  These are bits about people doing a good job.  Why not do a bit like this with Earl, to praise all of the apparent dedication he has ?  No, instead they do 10+ minutes about how the show is fine without him.  This speaks volumes.

Bestinshow

12-23-2005, 12:05 PM

Lets see if we can rap this all up.....1) Earl is a producer whos highly skilled behind the mike, but mediocre in front of it. He's the Carlos Delgado of radio where hes a monster hitter on the technical front but an adequate fielder in front of the mike.2)Grey...wtf?...You don't like Earl. We got that on page 1. You haven't added anything new to this thread.3) Mr. terrific....You are an attorney?......You must be a public defender because the way you are wasting time you cant have a clock ticking.4)MO.... I see why you have a gazillion posts...Why would you even waste your time with this trash? I keep telling you...stop playing with the retards.(I'm playing with you Mo so don't get pissed at me)5) I can't believe this stupid piece of shit thread is up to page 8. Nothing is different than the first page. Don't you guys have anything else to do?

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Death Metal Moe

12-23-2005, 12:34 PM

So wait, where's the proof?  I thoght Grey had a good point going there but he got beat up trying to do it.Explain yourslef again man.

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Bestinshow

12-23-2005, 12:57 PM

Proof...lets see......... If a right angle is 90 degrees and the hypotenuse is 180 degrees........wait......ah nevermind, who the fuck cares?

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 01:57 PM

quote:Lets see if we can rap this all up.....1) Earl is a producer whos highly skilled behind the mike, but mediocre in front of it. He's the Carlos Delgado of radio where hes a monster hitter on the technical front but an adequate fielder in front of the mike.2)Grey...wtf?...You don't like Earl. We got that on page 1. You haven't added anything new to this thread.3) Mr. terrific....You are an attorney?......You must be a public defender because the way you are wasting time you cant have a clock ticking. Moe gets it. Where is the PROOF ? I CANNOT agree that Earl is skilled "behind the mic" (this is confusing...behind the scences) There is no evidence of this. The evidence is the RF regularly critizize Earl in a joking way but there is truth to it. I do not HATE Earl. I simply stated how I thought he might not be the best thing for the show. Then this laywer jumps down my throat saying that I am stating opinions as facts and os obsessed that I am not arguing the right way, according to his rules. I called him on being a lawyer IMMEDIATELY and now he had something to prove. I am still looking for something CONCRETE that says Earl is doing good. I gave my concrete proof that Earl is not up to RF's expectations. Ron : "The show runs better without Earl." All I got in response was "RF do not do bits about people doing well" (proven false) and, if RF didn't tell you then you don't KNOW. Obviously, but then why discuss ANYTHING. This is the case of a lawyer trying to prove what a genius he is over a very trivial point.<blockquote />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 02:01 PM

The accusation: Earl is bad for the showArguments: R&F say Earl is good for the show R&F also say the show is better without EarlWe can conclude that R&F say BOTH things. They say both things in a serious manner, and both things in a joking manner. We can conclude that we can not use evicence of what R&F say on air about Earl's job performance...they say both things. The accusation stands: Earl is bad for the show 

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wehitandrun

12-23-2005, 02:02 PM

This is out of control stuff. In my own defense... I
don't deny Earl's off-air performance, but I will say he is terrible on
air. I will also say that the Ron & Fez show is down a few levels
from its WJFK Hay-Day... Earl's Fault off-air?  

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 02:06 PM

What has Earl done for the show ?Ask the same question of any other great R&F producer. Al Dukes, Rory, Giant Brian, even J Dubs. People can easily give examples of their contributions. Earl got Judd Nelson. At least Soundboard Fez saved that one. 





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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 02:07 PM

quote:This is out of control stuff. In my own defense... I
don't deny Earl's off-air performance, but I will say he is terrible on
air. I will also say that the Ron & Fez show is down a few levels
from its WJFK Hay-Day... Earl's Fault off-air?Thank you. When Earl was late this week we saw that he cannot handle the staff or leadership duties. Something is wrong and he is the one in charge. 





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Death Metal Moe

12-23-2005, 02:25 PM

Moe gets it. Where is the PROOF ? I CANNOT agree that Earl is skilled "behind the mic" (this is confusing...behind the scences) There is no evidence of this. The evidence is the RF regularly critizize Earl in a joking way but there is truth to it. Dude, you're out of control.  You're in a tailspin.  I was joking around with you.  Remember me?  I'm the guy who was arguing against you 2 pages ago.  You're not even paying attention to that.You're arguing opinions here and it's getting us nowhere.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 02:26 PM

It's almost Christmas Eve. TerrifiClaus, please bring to me a reason Earl is good for the show. The best things I've gotten so far are that he picks great bumper music and can find songs quickly. The latter is testament primarily to the XM engineers, Earl just knows how to spell "Aimee Mann." As for the former, just let RF write down their top 20 songs, or the first 20 that come to mind. I am fine with Classic Funk/Soul and some Tom Petty.We do not need Earl. 





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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 02:57 PM

The lawyer is trying to paint a picture that I "hate" Earl or or an I mad at him for some reason. He is the only one defending Earl with such passion. I just want to hear something that Earl contributes to the show that is outstanding. This is a lot like when Earl could not tell Harry what he did wrong, no one can give and example. 

 

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PanterA

12-23-2005, 03:03 PM

Anyone ever tell you that you sound just like that anti-producer guy that hated Al Dukes?Quit stealing bits.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 03:10 PM

quote:Anyone ever tell you that you sound just like that anti-producer guy that hated Al Dukes?<a href="http://www.myspace.com/robentreri2">!</a> AL Dukes was great on the air and no one should be able to deny that. 

 

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PanterA

12-23-2005, 03:20 PM

AL Dukes was great on the air and no one should be able to deny that.Youre right, no one should deny Al was great on air just like no one should deny that Earl is a great producer. Earl knows how to run the studio, knows when and what kind of music needed to make the bit that much better. Among many other "producer" type additions to the show Earl is on the ball with it.  

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PanterA

12-23-2005, 03:22 PM

If you're looking for the slap around guy then your problem might be with Harry. Although I like Harry it seems until lately he hasnt been able to be the perfect whipping boy Al was.

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 03:25 PM

quote:If you're looking for the slap around guy then your problem might be with Harry. Although I like Harry it seems until lately he hasnt been able to be the perfect whipping boy Al was.

 Harry gets the bit and takes his abuse (somewhat) like a man. Evidence: When Earl was being criticized he was "so cold" that he couldn't function and he TRIED to run out of the room to "clear his thoughts." Harry was GREAT when he put Staples in his place. I would like to hear more of that. 

 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 03:28 PM

quote: Earl knows how to run the studio, knows when and what kind of music needed to make the bit that much better. Among many other "producer" type additions to the show Earl is on the ball with it.Harry did fine running the board, and getting music seems to be a pretty easy task. Easy access to music is more of a credit to the XM library than Earl. Is bumper music alone really the mark of a great producer? Enough to keep someone around ? Among many other addition ? Such as ? This is my point. Name them. What has he done. What has he brought to the table. What 10 minutes of the XM R&F show have been great becuase of the contributions of Earl ? 

 

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PanterA

12-23-2005, 03:35 PM

Alright we'll agree to disagree. I think Earl is very talented at what he does and you cant take that away from him. You're pressing this point too hard that I feel you're trying to make it a bit for air, so good luck with that. I would actually like to hear Earl put you in place.

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WeToYou

12-23-2005, 03:36 PM

Earl is better then all of your hopes and dreams put together. Sorry bud.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 03:57 PM

quote:Alright we'll agree to disagree. I think Earl is very talented at what he does and you cant take that away from him. This is at least civilized.  The lawyer really got swept up in trying to prove himself and talk around things.  I just see Earl as not outstanding and maybe a problem for the show.  This issue really came forward when Earl was late and the show was fine without him.  It proved what Earl feared most and RF noticed it right away.

GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 04:05 PM

quote:You're pressing this point too hard that I feel you're trying to make it a bit for air, so good luck with that. I would actually like to hear Earl put you in place.

 I am just defending myself.  If I don't respond it is APPARENT that the lawyer will claim it as a victory.

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12-23-2005, 04:12 PM

Thank God.  Let this fucking abortion thread die now.

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12-23-2005, 04:12 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:13 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:13 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:14 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:15 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:16 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:16 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:23 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:24 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:25 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:26 PM

LET'S HEAR IT FOR LAWYERS!!!!<img height="409" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/img/186/2257/640/Jcocran.jpg" width="267" border="0" />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 04:49 PM

"Whassup Babies ? I am dedicated and I have my head in the game."<img border="0" src="http://gregmcivor.com/images/misc/o_n_a/100th_show/ona07.JPG" /> <img border="0" src="http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/1691/hoodyicon25ph.gif" /> 







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12-23-2005, 04:53 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:53 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:55 PM

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suggums

12-23-2005, 04:57 PM

Ahhhh Prepon 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 04:59 PM

Ass <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" src="http://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads//post-2484-1134921639_thumb.jpg" /><img border="0" src="http://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads//post-2484-1134921716_thumb.jpg" /> Now we are having fun. 

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suggums

12-23-2005, 05:06 PM

Did somebody say ass...<img border="0" src="http://www.141empire.com/images/dateline/candidate/04ass2ass.gif" /> ...to ass? 

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WeToYou

12-23-2005, 05:13 PM

This thread = deserves to die.

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12-23-2005, 05:16 PM

quote: This thread = deserves to die. You are correct, sir.<img height="800" src="http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/baldung/ages/ages-woman-death.jpg" width="500" border="0" />

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 05:21 PM

I'll give it to the new year to see if anyone can come up with something Earl has done. <img border="0" src="http://www.indiaexpress.com/temp/img/0.11.410ci.gif" /> 

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12-23-2005, 05:35 PM

<img border="0" src="http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/sunyday76/GetAlongGang/gagshowgraphic.jpg" /> 

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12-23-2005, 05:38 PM

Mr Teriffic ? <img border="0" src="http://kevinremde.members.winisp.net/images/beating_2Da_2Ddead_2Dhorse.gif" /> 

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Death Metal Moe

12-23-2005, 05:44 PM

Here's one good thing:Earl booked Anthouny Bourdain, EASILY the GREATEST guest I've EVER heard on Ron and Fez.

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12-23-2005, 05:45 PM

quote: <img src="http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/sunyday76/GetAlongGang/gagshowgraphic.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/1691/hoodyicon25ph.gif" border="0" /> This message was edited by GreyHoodyShirt on 12-23-05 @ 9:36 PM And this picture just made me to a REAL double take.  Holy shit, I don't know WHERE or WHEN, but I've seen this cartoon before and it just freaked me the fuck out. 

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Rutger__Hauer

12-23-2005, 05:51 PM

Here's one good thing:Earl booked Anthouny Bourdain, EASILY the GREATEST guest I've EVER heard on Ron and Fez.~clears throat~

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 05:54 PM

quote:Here's one good thing:Earl booked Anthouny Bourdain, EASILY the GREATEST guest I've EVER heard on Ron and Fez.

 I did agree with that earier. I only know Anthony Bourdain from the commercials I had seen for his show and Ron being a fan of his and this interview really exposed me to something that I otherwise proably would have let slip from my radar. Ron BEGGED for this for a while. Kudos to Earl for getting it done, but getting ONE good guest, especially after Ron's begging, isn't a whole lot. Greatest guest ? Let's not forget Rutger:<img border="0" src="http://www.movieforum.com/people/actors/rutgerhauer/images/rutgerb2.jpg" />"Yeah Hi, this is Rutger""Rutger, you have huge hands" 

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Death Metal Moe

12-23-2005, 05:56 PM

Kudos to Earl for getting it done, but getting ONE good guest, especially after Ron's begging, isn't a whole lot.Well you asked for one, and there's one.  You've gone on like a mad man for 9 FUCKING PAGES begging for an example and you try to downplay something good he did?You're either a fucking lunatic or busting my balls.

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12-23-2005, 05:58 PM

quote:And this picture just made me to a REAL double take. Holy shit, I don't know WHERE or WHEN, but I've seen this cartoon before and it just freaked me the fuck out. I KNOW I saw it as a kid pretty regularly on USA Network Cartoon Express or something like that. http://www.fromthe80s.com/tv/cartoons.php 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 06:03 PM

quote: You're either a fucking lunatic or busting my balls. <a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> A little from column A, a little from column B. I guess I should have asked for TWO. 

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GreyHoodyShirt

12-23-2005, 06:06 PM

quote: ~clears throat~

 You posted while I was typing and defending you. What an honor. Image Earl alone on the mic without Living Colour records to play.<img border="0" src="http://www.availableentertainment.com/images/68_jpg.jpg" /> 

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Death Metal Moe

12-23-2005, 06:10 PM

Image Earl alone on the mic without Living Colour records to play.Actually that's crap, because if you remember, during Earl's BLACK ROCK COALITION show, the VERY CRITICAL O&A fans thought he did an awesome job.  Those fans RODE him more than ANYONE ever has, and they all called in to support him.There's another good thing he did, just not connected with the Ron and Fez show.  It does show that he's not a buffoon like you're saying.

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12-23-2005, 06:14 PM

quote: Actually that's crap, because if you remember, during Earl's BLACK ROCK COALITION show, the VERY CRITICAL O&A fans thought he did an awesome job. Those fans RODE him more than ANYONE ever has, and they all called in to support him.There's another good thing he did, just not connected with the Ron and Fez show. 

<a href="http://www.unhallowed.com"></a> Ron repeatedly mentioned how the BRC show took AWAY from the work he was doing for the R&F show. I did not hear the BRC... but it's single, solitary appearance is testament enough for me as to its quality. The BRC is not something he did FOR the show, it was an opportunity he got BECUASE OF the show. Not necessarily the quality work on the show, just proxomity to it. 

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