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Dirtybird12

01-03-2006, 11:07 PM

<div><div class="textStoryTag">BREAKING NEWS - ( read whole thing ) </div><img height="20" hspace="0" src="http://media.msnbc.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Sources/sourceAP.gif" width="140" border="0" /> <div class="textTimestamp">Updated: 2:38 a.m. ET Jan. 4, 2006</div></div>TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - Twelve of the 13 miners trapped in an explosion in a coal mine were found alive late Tuesday after more than 41 hours underground, turning a community’s worst fears to unbridled joy. Family members streamed from the church where they had kept vigil, shouting “Praise the Lord!”Bells at the church rang out as family members ran out screaming in jubilation. Relatives yelled “They’re alive!”“They told us they have 12 alive,” said Gov. Joe Manchin, leader of the nation’s No. 2 coal-producing state. “We have some people that are going to need some medical attention.” Great story eh? But theres more.... 2:45AM during a live broadcast from the scene -the celebration turned to a fist fight / screaming / yelling...as mine officials announced they made a mistake. Only ONE miner was found alive. ALL BUT 1 had died. How the fuck does something like this happen??  How in Gods name do family members get information that their loved ones are alive? This is one of the most bizare stories Ive ever seen on the news. All played out on live tv. Family members feel betrayed, pissed off and people started to fist fight.  Sad news man.

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Fallon

01-03-2006, 11:14 PM

Oh man, I was reading the first part of your post and wanted to see the happy people, so I turned on Fox News and saw the headline that only one was alive. Then I continued to read here. That's fucked up for those familys. 

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Ndugu

01-03-2006, 11:14 PM

i fell asleep thinking the 12 were alive i woke up just now and i feel sick to my fucking stomach

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tele7

01-03-2006, 11:17 PM

I called my friend and woke him and his wife out of bed to tell them the good news.  I knew they were following the story.  We were all pretty happy about the good news.  Needless to say, the good news has turned to crap.  These 24 hour news channels are like fucking vultures for a story. 

ChrisTheCop

01-03-2006, 11:17 PM

Holy Shit. On  my way home tonight I was happy to hear the good news that they were all found alive. Ive been playing poker til now...and its not a lie...its on cnn....only ONE survivor. Awful. Awful news for the family. wow. The title of the thread is right. Is it the network news that made the mistake? or local authorities?

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suggums

01-03-2006, 11:17 PM

Wow, ridiculous.  When I said goodnight to my mom around midnight they had been reporting the 12 alive.  That's a neck on everyone, shitty story 

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ChrisTheCop

01-03-2006, 11:21 PM

Jan 4, 2006 12:20 am US/Eastern (1010 WINS) (TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va.) Twelve miners caught in an explosion in a coal mine were found alive late Tuesday, more than 41 hours after the blast, family members said. Bells at a church where relatives had been gathering rang out as family members ran out screaming in jubilation. Relatives yelled "They're alive!" "Miracles happen in West Virginia and today we got one," said Charlotte Weaver, wife of Jack Weaver, one of the men who had been trapped in the mine. "I got scared a lot of times, but I couldn't give up," she said. "We have an 11-year-old son, and I couldn't go home and tell him, 'Daddy wasn't coming home.'" ************************************************** ****************...the above is still on the 1010wins website. But the quotes of Mrs Weaver are chilling now.

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HBox

01-03-2006, 11:21 PM

The mining company is saying that they never said that 12 miners survived. Reports had said that the mining company has confirmed that 12 had survived. The owner of the company is blaming a miscommunication between the command center and the rescue team. The owner of the company is saying "I don't want to point fingers." I know what that makes me think. 

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tele7

01-03-2006, 11:21 PM

Let the blame game begin

HBox

01-03-2006, 11:31 PM

This was like the worst game of telephone ever. The rescue team tells the command center who tells the mining company who tells the families who tell the media that 12 survived. 

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Ndugu

01-03-2006, 11:57 PM

the communications lady is a bit defensive

HBox

01-04-2006, 12:00 AM

Did anyone see when some lady in a car yelled at Anderson Cooper, "They're all liars!" I THINK she was talking about the mining company. 

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HBox

01-04-2006, 12:04 AM

The papers tomorrow morning will be interesting. I'm sure most will have some sort of "Miracle in West Virginia" headline. 

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Ndugu

01-04-2006, 12:52 AM

lady on fox held up the post and daily news they both said ALIVE

Captain Stubing

01-04-2006, 12:58 AM

quote: The papers tomorrow morning will be interesting. I'm sure most will have some sort of "Miracle in West Virginia" headline. <img src="http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4544/newsig2ki.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.mville.edu/Amstudies/images/Truman_Dewey_Wins.jpg" border="0" />Same as it ever was.................. 

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sr71blackbird

01-04-2006, 01:48 AM

From what I understand, the initial report was that the miners were found and that their vitals were being checked.  The command center and communication dropped the ball.  Big time. Hatfield blamed the wrong information on a "miscommunication." The news spread after people overheard cell phone calls, he said. In reality, rescuers had only confirmed finding 12 miners and were checking their vital signs. But what leaked out to anxious family members was that 12 were found alive."That information spread like wildfire, because it had come from the command center," he said.<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060104/ap_on_re_us/mine_explosion" target="_blank">Link</a>Its weird too, because the governors own brother had died in another mining accident years ago.  What a let down!

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01-04-2006, 01:49 AM

quote: <img src="http://www.mville.edu/Amstudies/images/Truman_Dewey_Wins.jpg" border="0" />Same as it ever was.................. Kindest Regards, Your Name You beat me to it, bro... I'm disgusted by this shit. 

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01-04-2006, 02:34 AM

quote:From
what I understand, the initial report was that the miners were found
and that their vitals were being checked. The command center and
communication dropped the ball. Big time.  quote: Hatfield
blamed the wrong information on a "miscommunication." The news spread
after people overheard cell phone calls, he said. In reality, rescuers
had only confirmed finding 12 miners and were checking their vital signs. But what leaked out to anxious family members was that 12 were found alive."That information spread like wildfire, because it had come from the command center," he said. <a target="_blank" href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060104/ap_on_re_us/mine_explosion">Link</a> Apparently,
the press took "checking their vital signs" to mean examining the
survivors. It doesn't read that way to me, but I can see how they got
this wrong. And in reading some of these earlier posts in this
thread this morning, I'd like to ask why would anybody want to lie or
mislead people about this info? It was obviously a miscommunication,
and a cruel one for the families. Why would anyone think the Mining Co
or Rescue team would lie about it?  <blockquote />

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sr71blackbird

01-04-2006, 03:00 AM

People always will grasp at whatever seems like a glimmer of hope, and react as these people did.  Its the reason why the government (usually) will never give out the full story, even when they know it.

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Dirtybird12

01-04-2006, 05:54 AM

they say officials knew 15 - 20 minutes after the "alive" announcement that 11 were dead -  mine officials waited until 2:45 ish to tell the families the truth.(3hrs). Members of the miner's family were told The MIners are ok, and will be up here (to the church) to see you soon. Anderson Cooper was almost sleep talking on CNN - earlier he kept saying "man i am tired" - then when the story broke, he looked ill. He did a good job. Yes, I saw them yell from the car "their all liars" -  

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DarkHippie

01-04-2006, 07:02 AM

I blame Brownie for this

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Bulldogcakes

01-04-2006, 02:35 PM

quote:they
say officials knew 15 - 20 minutes after the "alive" announcement that
11 were dead - mine officials waited until 2:45 ish to tell the
families the truth.(3hrs). Members of the miner's family were told The
MIners are ok, and will be up here (to the church) to see you soon. Anderson
Cooper was almost sleep talking on CNN - earlier he kept saying "man i
am tired" - then when the story broke, he looked ill. He did a good
job. Yes, I saw them yell from the car "their all liars" - 

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</a> That may all be
true, but when did the officials know that the story was misinterpreted
to mean "alive". I doubt they had CNN on and were fairly busy with the
rescue effort. The fact that a erroneous story took a few hours to be
responded to doesn't surprise me at all.  Someone who has
escaped blame here, who I want answers from the most, is the
regulators. I dont expect the Union or management to solve these
problems, thats why we have regulators in the first place. 


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Bulldogcakes

01-05-2006, 03:26 PM

Story (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/05/D8EULG38F.html) 
 quote: 


Some of the 12 coal miners who died
following an explosion left notes behind assuring family members that
their final hours trapped underground were not spent in agony, a
relative said Thursday. 
 "The notes
said they weren't suffering, they were just going to sleep," said Peggy
Cohen, who had been called to a makeshift morgue at a school to
identify the body of her father, 59-year-old mining machine operator
Fred Ware Jr. 
 
It reminds me of the telephone calls people made from the top floors
of the WTC on 9/11. Unbelieveably sad, and brave. 

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Dirtybird12

01-05-2006, 03:42 PM

quote: Some of the 12 coal miners who died following an explosion left notes behind assuring family members that their final hours trapped underground were not spent in agony, a relative said Thursday. "The notes said they weren't suffering, they were just going to sleep," said Peggy Cohen, who had been called to a makeshift morgue at a school to identify the body of her father, 59-year-old mining machine operator Fred Ware Jr.  It sounds like a good way to die - just going to sleep.  Still sad tho.   

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01-05-2006, 03:51 PM

quote:Story (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/05/D8EULG38F.html) 
 
 Isn't it great that you do something a certain way for years and then you wake up one day and it doesn't work anymore? 


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