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newport king

03-25-2006, 12:10 PM

Ok, I know this will piss off alot of people on this board but i need to get it off my chest. Let me start off by saying I feel bad for what i've done, but I was left with no choice. Back when my wife and I were dating she had a cat for about 18 years that died. Like anyone that loses a pet after a few moments of grief, she was ready to move on and get a new cat. Me personally, I'm allergic so I knew this was a bad idea. We adopted a cute, one eyed kitten (cause nobody else was gonna) after talking with the woman who was running the adoption i was told that i would get used to her especially having her since she was a kitten. Sounded logical to me.Fast forward about 6 years and my son constantly sneezes when he's around her, there are times in the month where i start sneezing cotinuously on end 1 after another for a half hour straight, she wipes her ass up and down my carpets leaving shit streaks in my living room, hallway, bedroom, etc. The other day we came home and she vomited to the point where it no longer looked like vomit, it looked like she got into a knife fight and bled out. Took her to the vet, said theres nothing wrong with her. Mind you, all week long i've felt like there is an elephant sitting on my chest whenever i'm home. I struggle to breathe. Haven't had a decent nights sleep in 3 weeks, Friday I actually woke up at 2:30 in the morning because of it, and then went out and sat in my truck for 2 hours listened to XM and then got ready for work. Enough is Enough!!! This afternoon my wife told me to take her to a shelter. I don't know if any of you have tried this, but shelter people eat donkey dick. From the guilt trip to the imaginary red tape they set up, it's fucking impossible. And I had exhausted all efforts in finding family or friends that would take this cat. I wouldnt wish this on my enemies. So there are 2 animal shelters in Jersey City, the first one i get to is in Liberty State Park. I ask the girl if i can drop the cat off. She tells me it depends on the situation. I explain my plight and she says, ok what town do you live in? I tell her Bayonne, *and boom goes the dynamite*. NO we can;t take this cat blah blah because newark is the contracted shelter for bayonne yadda yadda. whatev. As i'm leaving she asks if I want the number, and i say "No. Ill take care of it." Shelter #2 is on Johnston Ave. the guy working says they have no room as i'm staring at about 24 open empty cages. Then tells me it'll be 60 bucks for him to take it....what am i stupid? C-YA.Now i'm stuck. what to do what to do. well long story short (too late), i take the cat open her cage, dump all the remaining food that was left down Liberty State Park. Of course I told my wife I left her at one of the shelters. I just needed to get it off my chest. Despite what some of you may think, I really really felt bad about it. I even went back twice, and had a really hard time driving away. I don't like being as callous as that but the shelter people really left me with no choice.  I apologize to the cat lovers on here, i know there are many. If you're local, she may still be in her carrier on Thomas McGovern Drive in Liberty State Park, on the left hand side in a nice opening in the weeds by some abandoned railroad tracks. Again although i do feel awful about it, it's very nice to sit here and not feel like my chest is trying to flip inside out, and for the first time in years i can breathe in my house and not have my nose all snotty.

newport king

03-25-2006, 12:23 PM

ok 22 views in 12 minutes, can someone say somehting? i dont care if you think im an asshole, or a i can understand would be nice. just something...you know you put yourself out there...im just sayin.

booster11373

03-25-2006, 12:27 PM

Donate some money to an animal rescue cause.Your not that bad of a person you tried. Maybe you could have tried harder I dont know?

Don Stugots

03-25-2006, 12:28 PM

Dude,

i have never been for getting rid of a pet. To me the pet is part of the family, and i would never toss my family into the street or into a home.

with that being said. You did get rid of the cat for health reason both you and your son had problems breathing.

The way you got rid of the cat was wrong and you know that. Why not just give the guy at the shelter the $60.00 and have the piece of mind that your cat was getting a fair chance to go to a nice home? Why did you think that leaving her on the street was the right thing to do? i know that you didnt, since you had a hard time driving away, and you went back. Imagine how the cat feels? When I go to work I feel guilty about leaving my dog when she has this sad sad look on her face like "Dont leave me alone, i wont pee in the car."

Ever see Big Dadaay when they are taking the kid away from Adam Sandler? He walked out saying "but I wipe my own ass!?" That is how your cat felt.

i am not judging, we all do things that we know are wrong but they have to be done. All i am saying is that you did have options. Maybe you should have lied, and said "look someone lost this cat on my street", or something like that to the dunces at the shelter. they wouldnt have known any better.

torker

03-25-2006, 12:34 PM

BoondockSaint

03-25-2006, 12:34 PM

Don't worry, it's gone to a better place.<img height="225" src="http://www.louisvillehotbytes.com/chinatown.jpg" width="225" border="0" />

Hottub

03-25-2006, 12:40 PM

Hey! Funny guys!This is the confessional forum! LTFU!NK, I am still pondering this. I have a dog on the way out. Let me gather my thoughts and post later.

This message was edited by Hottub on 3-25-06 @ 4:41 PM

newport king

03-25-2006, 12:48 PM

your cat was getting a fair chance to go to a nice home?oh you mean my adult cat with one eye who is overweight and has assproblems. somehow i think she had a better chance running into a person on the street that might be interested.

ShelleBink

03-25-2006, 12:53 PM

Part of me wants to blow up at you, but the other part of me is sympathetic to your situation. I really don't know what to tell you, considering I know how bad shelters can be in terms of them being overcrowded.  And its rather pointless to do the "should have" game... I guess just do what you can, and maybe use the suggestion of donating to shelters; my sister works in conjunction with many shelters as a veternarian assistant, and she tells me some horror stories... since you couldn't help your cat, maybe do your best to help others.

Ndugu

03-25-2006, 01:24 PM

watch out for missy i think she has a thing for cats

newport king

03-25-2006, 01:30 PM

everyone seems to think donating to shelters would somehow help the problem...fuck that. why would i give these fucking fucks my fucking money when they wouldnt simply fucking help me. fuck em. all they had to do was tell me they were going to take her off my hands, feed her and hopefully find her a home. i wouldnt have cared if by the time i got to my truck, they had already injected her. at least i would have felt better about.

landarch

03-25-2006, 01:37 PM

All those health problems too???  Dude, you should have just put it to sleep.  Both of you would have felt better.  Or posted it on the board here.  That worked just in the last week for someone else.  I ain't judgin, but I couldn't look at myself in the mirror or even sleep at night if it was me.

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 01:51 PM

Your family pet is cold and will soon be starving. Or if you left the carrier door open, she's probably been hit by a car by now. Great example you set for your son. 

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 3-25-06 @ 6:47 PM

landarch

03-25-2006, 02:06 PM

It's been almost an hour and I can't get this story to stop following me.  I'm no hardcore animal lover--but I have taken on more than one poor animal that has become a burden for someone else.  They all are fine by me, and all three of them live here in harmony, and are very sweet animals.  Do us all a favor.  Next time you feel the need to cause confusion, terror, and pain to an innocent animal, don't post it on this board.  May you hear her cries of pain in your sleep forever.

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 02:11 PM

If you're local, she may
still be in her carrier on Thomas McGovern Drive in Liberty State Park,
on the left hand side in a nice opening in the weeds by some abandoned
railroad tracks. If I had any idea where that was, I'd go check it out and see if the poor guy is still in there. Sounds like Jersey, but I'm in Queens.

landarch

03-25-2006, 02:18 PM

If you're local, she may still be in her carrier on Thomas McGovern Drive in Liberty State Park, on the left hand side in a nice opening in the weeds by some abandoned railroad tracks.   I can't get there tonight, but I will go first thing in the morning.  I can't take on another animal, but I will try to find it a home if she's still there, and maybe she only has to spend ONE night in the cold..............Ugh.

OGC

03-25-2006, 02:34 PM

newport king wrote: Ok, I know this will piss off alot of people on this board but i need to get it off my chest. ....  First off let me say I sympathize with you. Dealing with the shelters is a nightmare. They do whatever they can to avoid taking in pets. (and yes, I understand why they do this, they don't wan't to be overrun with animals that people no longer want. I sympathize with them too)My sister is a cat person. She has had many cats over the years. Long story short, she had a severe stroke about 6 months ago and guess who took over the responsibility for her 4 cats (and everything else in her life too). My wife and I. One of the cats immediately went back to a previous owner who was very happy to take him. Another of the cats became so sick it had to be put down (at a cost of about $200).We tried almost everyday for a month to contact the cat shelters about taking the other 2 (perfectly healthy) cats. We made it very clear that we would be happy to make a very nice donation to the shelter if they would take these cats off of our hands and find them good homes. They never responded. I'll repeat. We left over 2 dozen messages on their answering machine (they never answer the phone) and they never responded at all.In the meantime, these 2 cats were living in my sisters house alone because my kids are allergic to cats. I spent about 6 weeks begging friends to take them and yes, eventually I was able to find good homes for them. I know the people at the shelter would say "see you were able to do that all by yourself, you didn't need us". But thats not the point. These cats weren't happy for the 6 weeks they were living there. Yes, we took care of them as best we could but they couldn't get the attention they deserved.Newport King, I won't say that what you did was right, but I can understand your frustration. If I was in your shoes, I think I would have had the cat put down by the vet. If your family wouldn't have understood this, then the same little white lie you told them would work just as well "I took the cat to the shelter". If you are really bothered by your action, Is it possible to go back and collect the cat where you left it and then have it euthanized. The cat won't suffer and you'll feel much better about it. If it was in as sad shape as you said, you'd be doing it a favor.

mdr55

03-25-2006, 02:40 PM

RIP Kitty. You took a domesticated cat and released it into the
wild. You were better off running it over with your car. At least you
can say it was an accident.I hope you have a good night sleep in your warm house.Cuz your cat isn't. But then again it has 9 lives.

Don Stugots

03-25-2006, 02:42 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">newport king wrote: <hr color="cococo" align="left">your cat was getting a fair chance to go to a nice home?<hr color="cococo" align="left">oh you mean my adult cat with one eye who is overweight and has assproblems. somehow i think she had a better chance running into a person on the street that might be interested.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

anything would have been better than leaving it on the street. You really think the cat will last more that a few days? You just released a domesticed animal in the harshness that is the streets.

Unless your cat is used to being outside like some are. If that is the case than it will be ok.

newport king

03-25-2006, 02:48 PM

Ok well first off bulldogcakes, eat me. really, stop with the guilt trip. just because you value your dogs lives over humans don't pawn off your ridiculous logic on me. And don't bring up how bad of an example i have made for my kid, unless you missed the point of my original post i'll say it again, neither one of us could breathe in the fucking house. I did us both the favor. so spare me.Now for everyone else who thinks i'm a jerk, heres an interesting "my name is earl" moment that just happened. My plan was to put a sweatshirt in her cage and leave her infront of the shelter that turned me down. I went back to where i left her, its basically an industrial dead end street where no one would have any buisness being, just as i make the uturn to get out and get her a fucking park ranger pulls up behind me. asks what i'm doing there, told him i'm having problems at home i just needed to go for a ride and get out of the house to clear my head, he asks for my info and says hell be right back...no i paid cash for my truck when i bought it, i've never owned any car outright until this one, so i had no idea my registration was expired. he gave me the speech about he could have me towed etc. i really had no idea, usually on leases and shit they let you know. oh well. anyway he let me go but stayed behind, thus the cats still there in her cage.

newport king

03-25-2006, 02:49 PM

people, stop trying to guilt me with these, you'll hear screams in your sleep, i hope you sleep well in your warm house...you know what? for the first time in a long time i will. i told you all i feel bad about it but whats done is done.

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 02:52 PM

Shelter #2 is on Johnston
Ave. the guy working says they have no room as i'm staring at about 24
open empty cages. Then tells me it'll be 60 bucks for him to take
it....what am i stupid? C-YA.Yes you are. What do you think, its FREE to take care of a pet for the rest of its life, you idiot? $60 is probably enough to keep it alive for a few months, to give it a chance to be adopted. After that it will be euthanized and thrown in the garbage with 100 cats who had the misfortune of being in homes like yours.

newport king

03-25-2006, 02:54 PM

you really are an ass. it had the run of the house, but when 2 of the HUMANS in the house can no longer breathe, you need to rearrange your priorities.

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 02:56 PM

newport king wrote: Ok well first off bulldogcakes, eat me. really, stop with the guilt trip. just because you value your dogs lives over humans don't pawn off your ridiculous logic on me. And don't bring up how bad of an example i have made for my kid, unless you missed the point of my original post i'll say it again, neither one of us could breathe in the fucking house. I did us both the favor. so spare me.   Go fuck yourself you stupid piece of shit. You could and done the civilized thing and paid the $60 for the shelter to take care of your problem. What you did was cheap and cruel. And dont give me the "I felt bad about it" horseshit. If you really cared, you would have found a better way to deal with it than what you did.

BoondockSaint

03-25-2006, 03:04 PM

I like how the first sentence of your post says that it will piss people off and then you get angry when people are pissed off.

This message was edited by BoondockSaint on 3-25-06 @ 7:05 PM

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 03:09 PM

newport king wrote: you really are an ass. it had the run of the house, but when 2 of the HUMANS in the house can no longer breathe, you need to rearrange your priorities. I'm an ass? Why dont you sleep out in the cold tonight dickbrain? It'll be about 30 degrees tonight. If you had a shred of decency, you'd go back, bring it to the shelter and pay the $60. If not, you'd prefer to let it suffer and die of a combination of starving and exposure. And given its health issues, it wont take long.And just so you know, I understand why you had to give it up, but the way you did it was just wrong, and cruel. And it's not too late to undo what you've done, and do the right thing.   

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 3-25-06 @ 7:12 PM

DJEvelEd

03-25-2006, 03:22 PM

Why don't you go fuck your mo..... ah nevermind. You're fucked anyway because God is a cat. Enjoy your time here on Earth because when you die, cats will be wiping their asses on your face and sticking their little dicks in your mouth.

sr71blackbird

03-25-2006, 03:29 PM

I had similar trouble when I had a cat that was no longer practical for my life, and I tried to contact the shelters to and had the same luck you had.  What I did though was to take out an ad in a pennysaver, offering the cat for free, along witha  year supply of food, cat litter and all supplies necessary.  I got a bunch of calls and a woman came and took the cat.  If you can get the cat back (and Id try if I were you), you might want to do like I did.  Do you have a garage you can keep it in, or an area like basement that you can isolate it from you and your kids?  Once we had this chicken (we have a lot of them) that was sick, and I tried bringing her to a vet, and they told me it would cost several hundred to make her better..  With a heavy heart, I had to take her "home" by myself and I never did anything like that before, but at least she wasnt suffering anymore.

keithy_19

03-25-2006, 03:31 PM

I never saw a cats dick. Not that I was looking for it or anything.  And I don't KNOW IF God's a cat, but I do know his favorite cartoon character is Garfield.

Billy Staples

03-25-2006, 04:22 PM

meow meow kitty killer meow meowstalker Kitty

newport king

03-25-2006, 04:31 PM

I'm writing this without reading any of the replies since i last posted...just to let you all knkow the guilt got to me and i went back and got her. made the wife promise to bathe her once a week and i;ll see how i do. if it doesn't work out i'll let you guys know and see if anyones interested.

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 04:33 PM

Thank you. I take back every nasty thing I wrote about you.

Don Stugots

03-25-2006, 04:33 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">newport king wrote: you really are an ass. it had the run of the house, but when 2 of the HUMANS in the house can no longer breathe, you need to rearrange your priorities.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

Dude, I think you are right the cat had to go, but it didnt have to go the way you did it. there is always another way. The fact that you feel this bad shows that you are not heartless. so dont sweat over that. the 60 bucks shouldnt have matter.

I am with Bulldog in regards to my pets. I love my puppy, to me she is the kid that we will never have. she is treated like a princess around here. You can see pics of her, if you want on my myspace page.

torker

03-25-2006, 04:35 PM

<img height="316" src="http://www.expocad.com/Kitty/a_Smiling_Kitty_100DPI.jpg" width="500" border="0" />Nice comeback, budday!!!

Bulldogcakes

03-25-2006, 04:39 PM

I though SR made some really good suggestions in this post, so I just wanted to highlight them  sr71blackbird wrote: I had similar trouble when I had a cat that was no longer practical for my life, and I tried to contact the shelters to and had the same luck you had. What I did though was to take out an ad in a pennysaver, offering the cat for free, along with a year supply of food, cat litter and all supplies necessary. I got a bunch of calls and a woman came and took the cat. If you can get the cat back (and Id try if I were you), you might want to do like I did. Do you have a garage you can keep it in, or an area like basement that you can isolate it from you and your kids?  <blockquote />  I must admit, he lost me when he got to the chicken stuff, though.  Good luck Newport, and keep us posted if you need any help.

newport king

03-25-2006, 04:42 PM

the cat is bathed and we'll see how its gonna go. however my sons been on my nerves lately....i'm just sayin. Im glad a thread i started got some action. i think thats a first.

sr71blackbird

03-25-2006, 04:47 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:   I though SR made some really good suggestions in this post, so I just wanted to highlight them  sr71blackbird wrote: I had similar trouble when I had a cat that was no longer practical for my life, and I tried to contact the shelters to and had the same luck you had. What I did though was to take out an ad in a pennysaver, offering the cat for free, along with a year supply of food, cat litter and all supplies necessary. I got a bunch of calls and a woman came and took the cat. If you can get the cat back (and Id try if I were you), you might want to do like I did. Do you have a garage you can keep it in, or an area like basement that you can isolate it from you and your kids?     I must admit, he lost me when he got to the chicken stuff, though.  Good luck Newport, and keep us posted if you need any help.  The chicken stuff was that I had to put the chicken down by myself.  It was bad.

HBox

03-25-2006, 04:58 PM

Was about to reply with a post about how you should never put your own health at risk for some cat, but then I realized what your screen name is. I think your quest for free and easy breathing should start elsewhere.

sr71blackbird

03-25-2006, 05:04 PM

By the way, I did a google image search for "one eyed cat".  Youll see many images, so many cats can live long lives without both eyes.  The ass problem usually is from an impacted gland that you can fix youself (but its stinky and messy and youll need long gloves and the aid of the <a href="http://cats.about.com/cs/healthissues/a/analglands.htm" target="_blank">Internet</a> for instructions), and I do believe there are certain shampoos or you can make use of an elisabethian collar that will prevent the cat from licking her own fur.  Most people who are allergic to cats are allergic to the airborne evaporation of the cats saliva from when they groom.  But, it makes the cat uncomfortable to manually prevent it from doing what it instintually does.  Try what I said about the ad, and make it as tempting as possible for someone who dosnt want to deal with the shelters, and make it a good story and youll very likely find it a new owner soon.  Im glad you got the little bastard back!

mendyweiss

03-25-2006, 05:04 PM

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-25-2006, 05:10 PM

I am so glad you went and got her. I was heartbroken to read your story.Instead of bathing her once a week, try <a href="http://www.onlineallergyrelief.com/pets/pets.html" target="_self">AllerSafe Dander lotion</a> (scroll down; it's the second item). My husband was allergic to my cats. I used it once a week and with some air filters, my husband was symptom free. Also, keep the door closed to bedrooms so the cat can't go in. It will help.EDIT: I wouldn't bathe her once a week. It will dry out her skin and fur. Use the AllerSafe Dander Lotion and maybe bathe her with an allergy shampoo once a month.

This message was edited by Alice S. Fuzzybutt on 3-25-06 @ 9:20 PM

newport king

03-25-2006, 05:26 PM

i still cant believe karma kicked in with the park ranger pulling me over. i looked wayyy suspicious. black tinted out truck on a desolate industrial road. i thought up a good lie. i can't belive he let me go.

BoondockSaint

03-25-2006, 05:28 PM

newport king wrote: i still cant believe karma kicked in with the park ranger pulling me over. i looked wayyy suspicious. black tinted out truck on a desolate industrial road. i thought up a good lie. i can't belive he let me go. n/m

This message was edited by BoondockSaint on 3-25-06 @ 9:29 PM

newport king

03-25-2006, 05:33 PM

no what? say it.

sr71blackbird

03-25-2006, 05:57 PM

let it go

DJEvelEd

03-25-2006, 06:20 PM

Ok you can unfuck yourself now. You won't spend eternity sucking hairy cat penis.

PapaBear

03-25-2006, 06:24 PM

Without passing any judgement about what you did, all I can say is I've NEVER heard of a shelter that turned down an animal.

BoondockSaint

03-25-2006, 06:28 PM

newport king wrote: no what? say it. I was going to say some shit about about karma.  But fuck it.

TheRealEddie

03-25-2006, 08:04 PM

Pay the $60 and be done with it. (Of course realize the shelter will probably put it to sleep anyway.)

Meatball

03-25-2006, 08:51 PM

You have GOT to be kidding me...with all the pain and suffering in the world - death, rape, molestation, war and famine...you think a mangy fleabag cat ranks anywhere near relevant?The cat was a nuisance and you got rid of it. They are eaten on a stick  in many Eastern countries as readily as we eat snickers bars. Get on with your life and think nothing of it.

tele7

03-25-2006, 09:01 PM

Meatball wrote: You have GOT to be kidding me...with all the pain and suffering in the world - death, rape, molestation, war and famine...you think a mangy fleabag cat ranks anywhere near relevant?The cat was a nuisance and you got rid of it. They are eaten on a stick  in many Eastern countries as readily as we eat snickers bars. Get on with your life and think nothing of it. Copycat..... I saw that written on a Hallmark card once.

JohnnyCard

03-25-2006, 10:48 PM

1. why did you not take the number to the Newark shelter and go there with the cat?2. why drop the cat in a park?  you had it all those years, why not keep it in a garage or seldom used part of the house until you found a place for it?I suffer from very bad allergies too, so I can empathize with your problem.  It seems you didn't exhust all options.  The cat was a part of the family for years AND it only had one eye.  Where's the compasion?

JohnnyCard

03-25-2006, 10:51 PM

Billy Staples

03-26-2006, 05:09 AM

Meow Meow call off the attack meow meowstalker Kitty

landarch

03-26-2006, 06:41 AM

Good man, Newport.  Please don't take anything I said as a personal attack.

FUNKMAN

03-26-2006, 06:49 AM

newport king wrote: I'm writing this without reading any of the replies since i last posted...just to let you all knkow the guilt got to me and i went back and got her. made the wife promise to bathe her once a week and i;ll see how i do. if it doesn't work out i'll let you guys know and see if anyones interested. Cool!  we had our cat adopted by an elderly woman thinking the cat was affecting the kids breathing "which i never really bought in to". My dad had asthma as a kid and allergies and he would get on my case thinking about his granddaughters having trouble breathing the way he did. About a year later we received a letter from the ladies daughter who said her mom could no longer care for the cat due to illness and we wound up getting her "Mickey" back!  Mickey and the kids grew up together and the kids never encountered any health issues beyond the usual kids stuff...

Don Stugots

03-26-2006, 06:59 AM

Good for you Newport. you did the right thing.

Jennitalia

03-26-2006, 08:45 AM

cheap fuck...so worried about the shelters putting her to sleep.  i guess that's worse than her owner pretty much killing her.  rot in hell

WhistlePig

03-26-2006, 11:00 AM

I'm glad you went back and got her, Newport. My dad dumped off one of our
family cats once because he peed everywhere in the house but then felt guilty and
went looking for him but couldn't find him. He still brings it up to this day (this
happened back in '75) and feels bad. These kind of things can haunt you forever.

Death Metal Moe

03-26-2006, 12:02 PM

So will you be leaving your kid somewhere if he becomes a burden as well?Just askin'

AngelAmy

03-26-2006, 12:28 PM

there is an animal rescue that is out of the route 18 flea market in east brunswick that you might want to look into.  my friend is a long time volunteer there.m  they keep pets until they are adopted. they are only there on the weekends but its worth checking out.

Don Stugots

03-26-2006, 12:34 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">AngelAmy wrote: there is an animal rescue that is out of the route 18 flea market in east brunswick that you might want to look into. my friend is a long time volunteer there.m they keep pets until they are adopted. they are only there on the weekends but its worth checking out.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

That place is great, that is where we got our puppy from. They were very friendly, and helpful. Also, most of there animals are fixed, which is a huge help and expense to not have to worry about.

Death Metal Moe

03-26-2006, 12:37 PM

Yea, getting your animals fixed is the single greatest thing you can do as a pet owner.  It's the 1st thing we did with our shop cat at my job, my house cat is spayed.  If you're an animal lover and you really care about overpopulation, go do it.

Patches

03-26-2006, 05:17 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Yea, getting your animals fixed is the single greatest thing you can do as a pet owner.  It's the 1st thing we did with our shop cat at my job, my house cat is spayed.  If you're an animal lover and you really care about overpopulation, go do it.<img height="207" src="http://www.tvgameshows.net/barker32.jpg" width="193" border="0" />Other than my wise ass response to Moe, I got nuthin.  Good job getting it back though... you should still work on getting rid of it though (legally preferred)- your kid's health has to be priority #1.

newport king

03-27-2006, 11:02 AM

i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs.

ShelleBink

03-27-2006, 11:09 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: AngelAmy wrote: there is an animal rescue that is out of the route 18 flea market in east brunswick that you might want to look into. my friend is a long time volunteer there.m they keep pets until they are adopted. they are only there on the weekends but its worth checking out. 

That place is great, that is where we got our puppy from. They were very friendly, and helpful. Also, most of there animals are fixed, which is a huge help and expense to not have to worry about.   My cat is from there (A.R.F. - Animal Rescue Force)  A little more North of that is Sayreville Pet Rescue ((or something of that sort)).  I got my dogga there and couldn't be happier with the nice folks there.

kevcala

03-27-2006, 11:54 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: So will you be leaving your kid somewhere if he becomes a burden as well?Just askin'  Not after this thread he won't . . if he's smart he'll just fork over the $60 to have it put down.

FUNKMAN

03-27-2006, 12:09 PM

newport king wrote: i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs. that's what they call<img height="240" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JDIQ.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" width="240" border="0" />

UnknownPD

03-27-2006, 12:19 PM

i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom  Are you sure its the cat. Might be your kid fucking with you for being cheap and mean.

This message was edited by UnknownPD on 3-27-06 @ 4:27 PM

Jennitalia

03-27-2006, 12:21 PM

newport king wrote: i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs. Good. It's probably because you treat them like crap, or don't pay enough attention to him, or because it's upset about you dumping the other cat on the street.  when cats arent happy or upset, that's how they act out.

Judge Smails

03-27-2006, 12:28 PM

newport king wrote: i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs. Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat, What are they feeding you? Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat It's not your fault They won't take you to the vet You're obviously not their favorite pet Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat, It's not your fault

TheMojoPin

03-27-2006, 12:51 PM

I cannot believe some of what I'm hearing here.A cat is an animal.  It's not a person, it's not family.Yes, I'm sure people love them and appreciate them, but Christ, at the end of the day, it's just a goddamn cat.  As a living thing it deserves respect, and certainly better than being abandoned in the middle of nowhere, but some of the suggestions people are tossing out here are absurd.Try and give the cat its own room, part of the basement or the garage?  Seriously?  Yeah, I'll do that.  I'll lay money that anyone thinking that would freak out at the idea of using that space to house, say, a homeless person.  But no, please, take away entire sections and rooms of your house for an ANIMAL.  Madness.Newport, if the health of your family is at stake here, the cat should be gone, period.  Tossing it out like you did is wrong, but don't let some of the pet fanatics (I'm sorry, but if you put an animal up as equal to or more important than people, that's PETA-fanatical) here guilt or insult or chastise you into keeping it.  Pay the shelter costs, or better yet, take out ads and see if someone will buy or just take it off of you.  Don't you or your family suffer because of an animal in your home...hell, ultimately it'll suffer, too.  Do yourself a favor and get rid of it, ASAP.  You owe it to find another home, and that's about it.  It's not more important than your family, or the well being of your home.

HBox

03-27-2006, 01:13 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: I cannot believe some of what I'm hearing here.A cat is an animal. It's not a person, it's not family.Yes, I'm sure people love them and appreciate them, but Christ, at the end of the day, it's just a goddamn cat. As a living thing it deserves respect, and certainly better than being abandoned in the middle of nowhere, but some of the suggestions people are tossing out here are absurd.Try and give the cat its own room, part of the basement or the garage? Seriously? Yeah, I'll do that. I'll lay money that anyone thinking that would freak out at the idea of using that space to house, say, a homeless person. But no, please, take away entire sections and rooms of your house for an ANIMAL. Madness.Newport, if the health of your family is at stake here, the cat should be gone, period. Tossing it out like you did is wrong, but don't let some of the pet fanatics (I'm sorry, but if you put an animal up as equal to or more important than people, that's PETA-fanatical) here guilt or insult or chastise you into keeping it. Pay the shelter costs, or better yet, take out ads and see if someone will buy or just take it off of you. Don't you or your family suffer because of an animal in your home...hell, ultimately it'll suffer, too. Do yourself a favor and get rid of it, ASAP. You owe it to find another home, and that's about it. It's not more important than your family, or the well being of your home. THANK YOU.

Don Stugots

03-27-2006, 01:23 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">HBox wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I cannot believe some of what I'm hearing here.A cat is an animal. It's not a person, it's not family.Yes, I'm sure people love them and appreciate them, but Christ, at the end of the day, it's just a goddamn cat. As a living thing it deserves respect, and certainly better than being abandoned in the middle of nowhere, but some of the suggestions people are tossing out here are absurd.Try and give the cat its own room, part of the basement or the garage? Seriously? Yeah, I'll do that. I'll lay money that anyone thinking that would freak out at the idea of using that space to house, say, a homeless person. But no, please, take away entire sections and rooms of your house for an ANIMAL. Madness.Newport, if the health of your family is at stake here, the cat should be gone, period. Tossing it out like you did is wrong, but don't let some of the pet fanatics (I'm sorry, but if you put an animal up as equal to or more important than people, that's PETA-fanatical) here guilt or insult or chastise you into keeping it. Pay the shelter costs, or better yet, take out ads and see if
someone will buy or just take it off of you. Don't you or your family suffer because of an animal in your home...hell, ultimately it'll suffer, too. Do yourself a favor and get rid of it, ASAP. You owe it to find another home, and that's about it. It's not more important than your family, or the well being of your home. THANK YOU. <hr color="cococo" align="left">

Sorry to disagree with you. My dog is part of my family. As a kid, the dogs that we had, were part of the family. I am not ashamed to say that when one of my moms dogs died a few years ago, I cried. We had that dog for 15 years. Day in and day out, he was there, watching the house, playing with us. He wasnt just some animal. How could someone not be upset when a family pet dies?

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 02:16 PM

Animals offer unconditional love and want nothing in return except some attention and food.  They can't make a conscious descision to do something against you, just instinct.People are selfish assholes who think of themselves and make very bad descisions for themselves and against you at times.I used to laugh at people who said they'd help an animal before a person, but I don't think it's so crazy anymore.  I can think of 10 family members I'd pass over to help my shop cat Knuckles.

ShelleBink

03-27-2006, 02:28 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: HBox wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I cannot believe some of what I'm hearing here.A cat is an animal. It's not a person, it's not family.Yes, I'm sure people love them and appreciate them, but Christ, at the end of the day, it's just a goddamn cat. As a living thing it deserves respect, and certainly better than being abandoned in the middle of nowhere, but some of the suggestions people are tossing out here are absurd.Try and give the cat its own room, part of the basement or the garage? Seriously? Yeah, I'll do that. I'll lay money that anyone thinking that would freak out at the idea of using that space to house, say, a homeless person. But no, please, take away entire sections and rooms of your house for an ANIMAL. Madness.Newport, if the health of your family is at stake here, the cat should be gone, period. Tossing it out like you did is wrong, but don't let some of the pet fanatics (I'm sorry, but if you put an animal up as equal to or more important than people, that's PETA-fanatical) here guilt or insult or chastise you into keeping it. Pay the shelter costs, or better yet, take out ads and see if
someone will buy or just take it off of you. Don't you or your family suffer because of an animal in your home...hell, ultimately it'll suffer, too. Do yourself a favor and get rid of it, ASAP. You owe it to find another home, and that's about it. It's not more important than your family, or the well being of your home. THANK YOU.  

Sorry to disagree with you. My dog is part of my family. As a kid, the dogs that we had, were part of the family. I am not ashamed to say that when one of my moms dogs died a few years ago, I cried. We had that dog for 15 years. Day in and day out, he was there, watching the house, playing with us. He wasnt just some animal. How could someone not be upset when a family pet dies?  I value my pets a lot higher than I value most of my extended family.  My extended family ignores me or tells me I am shit.  My dog always greets me with a happy smile and a wagging tail.  Whenever someone is upset in my house, they tend to find either a dog or one of the cats around them trying to make them feel better.  With the depression I tend to get, if I didn't have my dog sometimes, I know I probably would have been upset over something a lot longer.  For that, their worth is immeasurable to me.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 02:31 PM

HBox

03-27-2006, 02:42 PM

I don't know, I think I value the friendship of another human being, one I can make a connection with, one I can laugh with, and at, a person I can converse with, bounce ideas off of, talk with, I think I value that over some stupid animal that will lick anyone who puts food in its face.I hate my relatives, but if I had to choose between saving anyone of them and any dog or cat, that isn't even a choice.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 02:43 PM

HBox wrote: I don't know, I think I value the friendship of another human being, one I can make a connection with, one I can laugh with, and at, a person I can converse with, bounce ideas off of, talk with, I think I value that over some stupid animal that will lick anyone who puts food in its face. I hate my relatives, but if I had to choose between saving anyone of them and any dog or cat, that isn't even a choice. Of course I value my relationships with people more, but I'd probably save my pet over a person on the street if given the choice.I'd still help a person if I saw them in need, but I just know I'd rather spend time with my pets than some people.

torker

03-27-2006, 02:56 PM

Bottom line:  dispose of your unwanted pets in a humane way, don't be a kitty litterer.

Patches

03-27-2006, 03:02 PM

Jennitalia wrote: newport king wrote: i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs. Good. It's probably because you treat them like crap, or don't pay enough attention to him, or because it's upset about you dumping the other cat on the street.  when cats arent happy or upset, that's how they act out.Jenn, I think you missed something- he went and got the cat back... there is no second shitter.  (hello, Newman)Anyway, Mojo put in words exactly what I was thinking, but couldn't quite put it down without sounding like a callous douche.  Cats are not family- they are pets.  If they were family, Newport would have had to decide to either get rid of the cat or the kid, since everyone is one big happy family, right?As for payback, meh... That son of a bitch is lucky you were nice enough to go back for him, and now he's shitting up the house?  Ungrateful one eyed little fuck.

Jennitalia

03-27-2006, 03:09 PM

Patches wrote: Jennitalia wrote: newport king wrote: i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs. Good. It's probably because you treat them like crap, or don't pay enough attention to him, or because it's upset about you dumping the other cat on the street.  when cats arent happy or upset, that's how they act out.Jenn, I think you missed something- he went and got the cat back... there is no second shitter.  (hello, Newman)Anyway, Mojo put in words exactly what I was thinking, but couldn't quite put it down without sounding like a callous douche.  Cats are not family- they are pets.  If they were family, Newport would have had to decide to either get rid of the cat or the kid, since everyone is one big happy family, right?As for payback, meh... That son of a bitch is lucky you were nice enough to go back for him, and now he's shitting up the house?  Ungrateful one eyed little fuck.i didnt realize he went back, so i apologize.  the pooping in the house, though, is definitely a behavioral thing as I mentioned though.  the little fellow's been through a lot, and, well, that's just how they react to psychological and/or physical problems.

Bulldogcakes

03-27-2006, 03:45 PM

newport king wrote: i came home from work to wash my hands, i found 4 logs on the floor, piss in the corner and god knows what in the bedroom. i think its cause i bought a new type of food and had to buy a different litterbox...sorry as i'm looking arond the living room make that 6 logs. New food does that every time. You're lucky it wasn't diarrhea.  For the people who dont get it about pets, I'll only tell you I used to think the same thing. Then I got my first Bulldog (Jake) and fell in love with the guy and the breed. To a pet lover, your pets are like children to you, without the annoying teenage years and college payments. I also know I'm a much better person from having had the experience. I only wish that you guys (and you know who you are!) might experience the same thing with someone or something at some point in your life. Until then, you just wont get it. And when you guys automatically go to the hackneyed "You like pets better than people" crap, I feel like I'm listening to Sean Hannity. That level of debate. Ponderous. <blockquote />

TheMojoPin

03-27-2006, 03:49 PM

Like I said, people can obviously love and care deeply for their pets...but I still maintain that putting them over people is ridiculous.OK, you're out on the street walking your dog, and a maniac grabs it and a random stranger and he WILL shoot one of them, and you have to choose.  No time for anything else, one of the two has to go, and you can't choose yourself.  You HAVE to pick the stranger or your pet.  Which one dies?And yeah, obviously that's an insane situation, but I still am saddned and bothered that people here are so willing to ignore the health problems and out and out suffering of Newport's family for a friggin' CAT, which is probably CAUSING all of those problems!  Yes, his inital "solution" was totally wrong, but the lengths people are describing to keep it are bonkers!  It's just a cat!I'm not saying people can't love pets...I just can't understand insisting that they have rights equal or even similar to people, or should always be treated like members of the family!  People were responding to this like Newport did it to his own child, and a random animal is so far from being that it's not even funny.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 3-27-06 @ 7:51 PM

suggums

03-27-2006, 03:49 PM

mojos just bitter cause he has to give his parent's cat insulin shots

Bulldogcakes

03-27-2006, 03:53 PM

To paraphrase H-Box, his name is Newport King. If there are respiratory issues in his house, I'd start elsewhere. Call me crazy.

TheMojoPin

03-27-2006, 03:57 PM

suggums wrote: mojos just bitter cause he has to give his parent's cat insulin shots The hell I do!  It's bad enough I gotta move home for a few months...thank God they gave that thing to my brother when he was home for Xmas.I grew up with that cat for years, but honestly, when it got the diabetes, I have no idea why my parents didn't give it away or put it down.  Hundreds of dollars in medicine a month and injections twice a day...I'm sorry, but again, that's not a person.  Obviously, I'm not a "pet person," and I would have tried my damndest to find someone willing to take care of it, but worst comes to worth I would have put it to sleep if it was mine.  I don't get it.  I have a life to lead, and waking up at 5 or 6 in the morning every day to shoot up a cat isn't part of that.  Of course, I wouldn't have gotten it in the first place...

TheMojoPin

03-27-2006, 03:58 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: To paraphrase H-Box, his name is Newport King. If there are respiratory issues in his house, I'd start elsewhere. Call me crazy.  Obviously, that needs to be taken into consideration, but the odds that the cat is causing sevre allergies are pretty goddamn good, probably far more likely than it being the family suddenly all developed lung cancer.

sr71blackbird

03-27-2006, 04:22 PM

Im getting pretty sick of this thread.  I saw we let it go.  The thread is in the Confessional.  What I think you people seem to have forgotten (mods too) is that its purpose is to vent out things that you do.  It seems you people are ripping EVERY fucking confession and are way to anal about shit.  Why dont the mods just rename the damn thing "Say Something & Be Ripped" ?

TheMojoPin

03-27-2006, 04:29 PM

sr71blackbird wrote: Im getting pretty sick of this thread.  I saw we let it go.  The thread is in the Confessional.  What I think you people seem to have forgotten (mods too) is that its purpose is to vent out things that you do.  It seems you people are ripping EVERY fucking confession and are way to anal about shit.  Why dont the mods just rename the damn thing "Say Something & Be Ripped" ? 1. Don't read it.2. No.3. So what?4. This is a messageboard.  It's designed for people to respond to pretty much anything posted.  This section does NOT exist for people to just say whatever they want without any replies...it's exactly the opposite.  It's a forum where you confess what you're willing to confess with the idea that people will reply.  The type of online forum where you CAN do what you're talking about and choose to not have any replies is...drumroll, please...a BLOG!5. I take it your're complaining about this thread, where a man described abandoning a cat in a cage in the middle of nowhere to die, and your recent thread where you brag about what is essentially stealing.  You honestly expect people to NOT have strong feelings about such discussions?6. Or, "people who confess things maybe should think twice about what they're confessing if they're worried their feelings will be hurt by words on a computer screen from people who disagree with them?"

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 3-27-06 @ 8:37 PM

torker

03-27-2006, 04:36 PM

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 04:37 PM

That's Life is the "Don't tool on people" forum.  The Confessional has always been a place you come to discuss something and expect to be made fun of a little while you might work a problem out.  I can't think of many confessions I've left in here where I didn't drop them in wanting a little light hearted joking to go on.

FUNKMAN

03-27-2006, 04:50 PM

COME ON Guys, don't you know that We are family I got all my members with me We are family Get up ev'rybody and sing Ev'ryone can see we're together As we post on board (FLY!) and we fly just like birds of a feather I won't tell no lie (ALL!) all of the people around us they say Can they be that close Just let me state for the record We're giving love in a family dose

Jennitalia

03-27-2006, 04:50 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: suggums wrote: mojos just bitter cause he has to give his parent's cat insulin shots The hell I do!  It's bad enough I gotta move home for a few months...thank God they gave that thing to my brother when he was home for Xmas.I grew up with that cat for years, but honestly, when it got the diabetes, I have no idea why my parents didn't give it away or put it down.  Hundreds of dollars in medicine a month and injections twice a day...I'm sorry, but again, that's not a person.  Obviously, I'm not a "pet person," and I would have tried my damndest to find someone willing to take care of it, but worst comes to worth I would have put it to sleep if it was mine.  I don't get it.  I have a life to lead, and waking up at 5 or 6 in the morning every day to shoot up a cat isn't part of that.  Of course, I wouldn't have gotten it in the first place...i see your point, but maybe you'll get where i'm coming from. my youngest cat went into kidney failure last year.   she's very young, so it was a complete shock. she lost half her weight and was down to 3 pounds.  it happened so fast.  the vet was upfront with me and didnt expect her to make it long, let alone through the week.  thershe was at the vet for 5 days and i went to see her.  she was very weak and her tests weren't encouraging, and she was losing all of her fur, but when she saw me she perked up and wanted to be held.  she was still doodle...she was still there, otherwise, as hard as it wouldve been, i would have put her down.  she had a seizure the first night i brought her home, and i really thought she dropped dead in front of me.  i called the vet and he said it wasnt a good sign at all. the next night i gave her a shot and had her lay in my lap for an hour and a half, hoping she'd be ok.  there was still something that let me know she didnt give up.  it's been over a year now, and you would never think she was sick by looking at her.  she's gained her weight back, still loves to run and play and is pretty much back to her normal self.  she'll need a shot every day for the rest of her life.  i spend about $40 a month on her iv bags and it sucks because i just cant leave for a weekend, because she needs her medication, but i dont mind.  i have no desire to have kids.  my cats are my children, as silly as some of you may think it is.  so i do it.  when the day comes where doodle starts to slip, and i can tell that she's no longer herself, i'll make the decision to put her under.  but i am so glad i didnt listen to the vet and some of my family in the beginning.

TheMojoPin

03-27-2006, 04:56 PM

That's a great story, Jen, and if my parents' cat had something it could "get better" from like that, I think I might be in the same boat.This is gonna make me sound heartless, but I really felt oddly let down when the cat rebounded due to the insulin shots.  Before getting diagnosed and treated, she was real thin and weak and looked old and, quite frankly, ready to die.  The insulin has made it energetic and fat and generally "alive" again...there's no reason it couldn't live another 5-10 years!  5-10 years getting shots twice a day, with medication that costs a lot of money...I just don't get it.  It's an animal...I can't get past that.But hey, it's cool people can.  I just think they don't need to expect or demand the same of other people.

Don Stugots

03-27-2006, 05:23 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">TheMojoPin wrote: Like I said, people can obviously love and care deeply for their pets...but I still maintain that putting them over people is ridiculous.OK, you're out on the street walking your dog, and a maniac grabs it and a random stranger and he WILL shoot one of them, and you have to choose. No time for anything else, one of the two has to go, and you can't choose yourself. You HAVE to pick the stranger or your pet. Which one dies?And yeah, obviously that's an insane situation, but I still am saddned and bothered that people here are so willing to ignore the health problems and out and out suffering of Newport's family for a friggin' CAT, which is probably CAUSING all of those problems! Yes, his inital "solution" was totally wrong, but the lengths people are describing to keep it are bonkers! It's just a cat!I'm not saying people can't love pets...I just can't understand insisting that they have rights equal or even similar to people, or should always be treated like members of the family! People were responding to this like Newport did it to his own child, and a random animal is so far from being that it's not even funny.

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Mojo,

I am sorry to say that I would pick my puppy over a stranger everytime. But, I know that it is wrong. I just hate people.

Now, I can tell you all that we are trying to think of how we can have our dog at our wedding in Sept. I would rather have her be there than most of cousins, and I dont think there is anything wrong with that.

Ever have a puppy curl up with you on the couch when you are sick? Ever have a pet come running into the room and get so happy that you came home? That devotion can not be matched by many people.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 05:26 PM

HA ha!Mojo is heartless!

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-27-2006, 05:29 PM

i see your point, but maybe you'll get where i'm coming from. my youngest cat went into kidney failure last year.   she's very young, so it was a complete shock. she lost half her weight and was down to 3 pounds.  it happened so fast.  the vet was upfront with me and didnt expect her to make it long, let alone through the week.  thershe was at the vet for 5 days and i went to see her.  she was very weak and her tests weren't encouraging, and she was losing all of her fur, but when she saw me she perked up and wanted to be held.  she was still doodle...she was still there, otherwise, as hard as it wouldve been, i would have put her down.  she had a seizure the first night i brought her home, and i really thought she dropped dead in front of me.  i called the vet and he said it wasnt a good sign at all. the next night i gave her a shot and had her lay in my lap for an hour and a half, hoping she'd be ok.  there was still something that let me know she didnt give up.  it's been over a year now, and you would never think she was sick by looking at her.  she's gained her weight back, still loves to run and play and is pretty much back to her normal self.  she'll need a shot every day for the rest of her life.  i spend about $40 a month on her iv bags and it sucks because i just cant leave for a weekend, because she needs her medication, but i dont mind.  i have no desire to have kids.  my cats are my children, as silly as some of you may think it is.  so i do it.  when the day comes where doodle starts to slip, and i can tell that she's no longer herself, i'll make the decision to put her under.  but i am so glad i didnt listen to the vet and some of my family in the beginning.Here here Jen! I grew up with pets and my dad worked for the ASPCA so I'm sympathetic to the plight of strays. I remember when our German Shepard developed dysplasia in the hips. He turned 13 and quickly went down hill. He'd sleep in the kitchen and cry and welp in pain. That lasted less than a day and my dad scooped him up in some blankets and drove him to a vet to have him put down. My dad was a Marine in WWII and saw horrors that are beyond comprehension, yet when he came back I saw tears in his eyes. He loved that dog. He was a faithful companion.I am my father's daughter. My cats are my faithful companions and comfort me when I'm feeling down; especially when the human race is giving me a hard time. I'd give my cats a shot daily if need be to ensure a comfortable life. If they got really really sick I'd put them down humanely. I'd be there to usher them out of this world. They really do mean the world to me.

sr71blackbird

03-27-2006, 05:39 PM

My point is, he said what he did, and then he went back and got the cat and its back at his house, and 99% of the responses clearly are not even reading the events that occured after the initial post. So why bother?  The guys getting attacked as if the cat was still freezing to death in the park; no ones reading it.   

This message was edited by sr71blackbird on 3-27-06 @ 9:55 PM

newport king

03-27-2006, 06:26 PM

To paraphrase H-Box, his name is Newport King. If there are respiratory issues in his house, I'd start elsewhere. Call me crazy.  yeah but call me crazy, but all day long i'm fine its just when i'm in the house. maybe its all in my head. oh and to keep everyone updated thats read the past events (which is like 3 or 4 of you) the cat's gone. the events of the day sealed the deal. by the time i got home from work the wife was on her hands and knees scrubbing the carpet begging me to get rid of her. it was a complete fucking disaster in here.for you people who think pets are part of the family, no they're not. dogs i can understand somewhat of an emotional attachment to because a dog has some personality. but its still a pet. a cat? a cat, sleeps 90% of the day and then eats, shits and lays around the other 10%. i've never taken my cat for a walk. i've never talked to the cat. the most compassion i' ve ever given her is pushing her off my face when i'm sleeping. i went back because i recognize it as an animal that shouldnt be treated like that. not because any of you opened my eyes. but this is insane living like this. i hope she finds an owner but realistically, she wont. oh well, what else am i to do? spend over an hour every night cleaning up after her? fuck that.

newport king

03-27-2006, 06:28 PM

The guys getting attacked as if the cat was still freezing to death in the park;it really wasnt cold yesterday. and isnt that what all that, whatcha call it? fur, is for?

FUNKMAN

03-27-2006, 06:32 PM

Please Stop Fighting!<img height="220" src="http://www.toolkit.container-recycling.org/images/knowtheopposition/KABComm.gif" width="220" border="0" />

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 06:36 PM

I guess you have to tell yourself that cat's can't be part of a family now, don't you?

newport king

03-27-2006, 06:44 PM

no cat's arent part of the family. neither are fish, snakes, hamsters, hermit crabs, turtles etc.they are pets...when you get them you go to the PET store. not the family store. i really can understand peoples emotional attachment to dogs. but i also think alot of people have pets as some sort of safety relationship so they don't have to deal with actual people. i'm not sure what you expect me to do in my situation moe. live like a prisoner in my own place? let;s just say your cat was making your grandmother terribly sick and absolutely DESTROYING your house, what then? do you designate the cat to a certain part of your home? tell grandma she has to leave? i mean i know you dont have any kids so i'm trying to get you to see my side of the situation.

Patches

03-27-2006, 06:45 PM

newport king wrote: no cat's arent part of the family. neither are fish, snakes, hamsters, hermit crabs, turtles etc.they are pets...when you get them you go to the PET store. not the family store. i really can understand peoples emotional attachment to dogs. but i also think alot of people have pets as some sort of safety relationship so they don't have to deal with actual people. i'm not sure what you expect me to do in my situation moe. live like a prisoner in my own place? let;s just say your cat was making your grandmother terribly sick and absolutely DESTROYING your house, what then? do you designate the cat to a certain part of your home? tell grandma she has to leave? i mean i know you dont have any kids so i'm trying to get you to see my side of the situation.I agree with every single thing in this post.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 06:46 PM

I just like how you're yelling at us that cat's aren't family members because your was a burden, but you think dogs can be.You should have just COMITTED the 1st fucking time you left the cat, then mentioned it to NO ONE.  You think I've written down everything I've ever done that I'm not proud of?  When you come in here and tell us, don't get bitchy that we tell you what we think.

FUNKMAN

03-27-2006, 06:52 PM

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newport king

03-27-2006, 06:53 PM

no one is getting bitchy. alot of people overreacted, the same as you're doing trying to put a guilt trip on me because my cat was a burden and you somehow think i should have figured out a decent way to handle it, or just lived with it till the cat peacefully dies in her sleep sometime in the next 10 years. if you consider your cat your family, great. good luck with that. if thats the case i hope you never have to come to the decision i laid out for you which i noticed you didn't answer. it was a simple question to prove a point that when push comes to shove, a cats gotta go over a family member.

angrymissy

03-27-2006, 06:54 PM

I don't believe that you went back and got the cat.That being said.Only a sick fuck would let a cat out like that.  Look hard until you find a shelter that will take the cat, you owe it that much. OR if you are callous enough to let it out to starve to death, plunk down the cash to have it humanely put to sleep at the vet.Have you even gotten the cat checked at a vet to make sure it doesn't have a UTI?  Cats piss and shit places when there is something wrong with them.  Anyway, I won't be revisiting this thread.  It makes me fucking sick just to read it.

This message was edited by angrymissy on 3-27-06 @ 10:57 PM

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:00 PM

newport king wrote: no one is getting bitchy. alot of people overreacted, the same as you're doing trying to put a guilt trip on me because my cat was a burden and you somehow think i should have figured out a decent way to handle it, or just lived with it till the cat peacefully dies in her sleep sometime in the next 10 years. if you consider your cat your family, great. good luck with that. if thats the case i hope you never have to come to the decision i laid out for you which i noticed you didn't answer. it was a simple question to prove a point that when push comes to shove, a cats gotta go over a family member.I understand why you got rid of it.  Close family comes before the cat.  Are you fucking happy now that I actually said it?  I get it.BUTyou fucking tortured this cat for days.  Then, you lecture us who feel cats are a pet you can consider family like you're anyone to lecture this board on choices with pets.I don't like that you had to get rid of the cat but I understand you did it for your family.  The way in which you carried this out was fucking awful.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:00 PM

And it also kinda gives us an insite into your feeling that once something becomes a burder you get it out of your life.

newport king

03-27-2006, 07:02 PM

missy seriously, read my posts. if not i'll summarize, i got her checked at the vet, everything was A-OK. tried for hours yesterday to find a shelter that would take her. the one in jersey city would for a dontation (and not a donation to the place, it was for the guy working there, this is a seedy shelter that has been closed down before) yeah i did what i did, but really felt bad about it, then went back and got her. today was insane what i came home to. she had to go. i took her to another shelter which i had to make up a story that she was a stray and she's there now.i'm not the type of person who would make up a story that i went and got her so a bunch of faceless strangers on the internet would be more accepting of me.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:02 PM

angrymissy wrote: Anyway, I won't be revisiting this thread.  It makes me fucking sick just to read it. Yea, I probably should do that to since I'm sick as well but I'm sure I'll be arguing the finer points of pet ownership for another day or 2.

newport king

03-27-2006, 07:04 PM

you fucking tortured this cat for days. when? she spent 4 hours outside on a day when it really wasnt cold out. please stop acting like i put firecrackers in her mouth to watch her jaw explode so she could starve to death.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-27-2006, 07:06 PM

for you people who think pets are part of the family, no they're not. dogs i can understand somewhat of an emotional attachment to because a dogWhat did you do> Set it on fire? You might as well if you just left it in the carrier in a remote part of Liberty State Park for no one to find. You are a DICK.Cats are just as loyal and less of a pain in the ass. I don't have to walk my cat at midnight in the snow. Dogs are cool but so are cats. You are a heartless human being.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:07 PM

newport king wrote:  you fucking tortured this cat for days.   when? she spent 4 hours outside on a day when it really wasnt cold out. please stop acting like i put firecrackers in her mouth to watch her jaw explode so she could starve to death.You adandoned it, then went to get it because it made YOU feel bad, just to adandon it again.You know what dude, if you're happy with your choices, why are you still in here arguing it with us?Just man up and live with it.  Jesus fucking Christ am I sick of this shit.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-27-2006, 07:09 PM

You just dumped it didn't you? Asshole.

newport king

03-27-2006, 07:11 PM

what the hell are either of you two talking about? set it on fire? abandoned it again?yes i had to get rid of a fucking cat. the cat is at a shelter, nobody set it on fire. nobody left it in a remote part of the park for noone to find. just to sum up, got the cat back, cat went beserk today, dropped her off at a shelter. sorry for all who think i threw her off a bridge or set her on fire.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:11 PM

Ahh but you know what, it's someone just like you that left the cat we keep at our shop.  So I have some callous pet owner to thank for me having a great cat at work.  Oh and we paid out of our own pockets to take him to the vet, have him fix and innoculate him.  Then when we found out he needed hernia surgery, we didn't throw him back out into the fucking dumpster.  We got him fixed and made sure he didn't go outside for over a week.But you know, we're FUCKING RETARDS for caring about a living thing, I know dude.  It's cool.  If it were a fucking dog, then you'd say we were justified.Yea, it's just a personalityless cat that greets us everyday, wants our attention, plays with us, love the attention the customers give him, and all that jazz.I got ya.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:12 PM

Oh yea, and the cat has AIDS and we still didn't get rid of him.  I guess that makes me a double asshole, right?

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:16 PM

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This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 3-28-06 @ 12:09 AM

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-27-2006, 07:20 PM

You came to this site and posted what you did. What did you expect? Sympathy? Oh poor you. I told you you could take care of the dander with some lotion and a few air filters. You are a cruel human being. The cat was freaked out. You treated it like shit so it shit the house and pee'd. You deserve what you got. That poor cat. I can only hope it has a good future. And I'm glad you got pulled over by the police. If they had known what you had done you would have been arrested for animal cruelty.

newport king

03-27-2006, 07:24 PM

And to this day I hate myself for not going back to kill it.you fucking heartless murderer. how can you live with yourself? i hope you hear the screams of that poor cat in your dreams tonight! dude, i'm not saying you're an asshole for  caring about a cat. my point was people were equating my cat as if it were one of my children. which is fucking asinine.and you keep going back to me just "getting rid of it cause its a burden" argument, when that argument doesn't carry any weight. i've dealt with her wiping her ass on my rugs for 4 years. nothing was different with that. there were health issues involved. (for anyone that brings up my screen name again with this and "maybe you shoud start there" lolrz, i swear to fucking god stop it, there was only problems when i was IN THE HOUSE, which incedentally i've NEVER smoked in.)

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:30 PM

newport king wrote:  And to this day I hate myself for not going back to kill it.  you fucking heartless murderer. how can you live with yourself? i hope you hear the screams of that poor cat in your dreams tonight! dude, i'm not saying you're an asshole for  caring about a cat. my point was people were equating my cat as if it were one of my children. which is fucking asinine.and you keep going back to me just "getting rid of it cause its a burden" argument, when that argument doesn't carry any weight. i've dealt with her wiping her ass on my rugs for 4 years. nothing was different with that. there were health issues involved. (for anyone that brings up my screen name again with this and "maybe you shoud start there" lolrz, i swear to fucking god stop it, there was only problems when i was IN THE HOUSE, which incedentally i've NEVER smoked in.) Maybe I'll dream of a man dropping a cat off to die instead.Now I'm calling Bravo Sierra on you.SO you had this cat for 4 years and everything was going somewhat well, then suddenly "SOMETHING" happened where your son was sneezing?  Something did change, but was it the cat?And if you see a cat puke blood and one vet says it's OK, that vet is a moron.

newport king

03-27-2006, 07:40 PM

moe i really don't understand your arguments at this point. neither one of us have been able to breathe in this house for the last few weeks, i wasn't looking to get rid of the cat, it was technically the wifes cat, but she saw there was something wrong with the two of us. Now I'm calling Bravo Sierra on you.i don't even know what this means, but yeah again it was only in the house when the cat came around us.  ok argue amongst yourselves, i;m going to bed, cats suck dogs rule, and i'm a hearless prick.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-27-2006, 07:42 PM

i'm a hearless prick.Pretty much.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:43 PM

moe i really don't understand your arguments at this point.Then maybe you're not familiar with English.ok argue amongst yourselves, i;m going to bed, cats suck dogs rule, and i'm a hearless prickWow, I was right?

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:45 PM

I don't think you're a heartless prick Newport King, I just think you were a little cruel to your cat.And again, if you're satisfied with what you did, great.  Good luck, bro.  I know I couldn't leave a living thing to fucking die, sorry.  I'm not saying I'm better than you, just that I'm like that.  Did the cat have ANY good points?  You make is sound as if it was this shitting, sleeping fur mass that never did anything else.

suggums

03-27-2006, 07:47 PM

newport king

03-27-2006, 07:48 PM

shitting, sleeping fur mass that never did anything else. that just about sums it up.

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 07:49 PM

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-27-2006, 08:02 PM

newport king wrote: shitting, sleeping fur mass that never did anything else.  that just about sums it up.Then you ignored it and never got to know it. Congratulations you are a careless owner. Why have a cat anyway? And your wife is just as guilty of being a lousy owner for letting you do that to your cat.

This message was edited by Alice S. Fuzzybutt on 3-28-06 @ 12:03 AM

Death Metal Moe

03-27-2006, 08:08 PM

Well I'm done in here.  Newport and I exchanged a couple PMs and we came to the conclusion we're kind of at a stalemate in our debate.I really didn't want to demonize him, but I did let him know how I felt.  He did the same.  There's no more to say in here.  I would fight for my child too but I voiced my opinion on the cat situation."The End" for me, in this thread.

WhistlePig

03-28-2006, 09:05 AM

Why the hell did you get a cat in the first place if you hate them so much and
worship dogs? That just doesn't make sense. I hope you NEVER get another cat
again and make its life miserable.

Jennitalia

03-28-2006, 09:54 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: That's a great story, Jen, and if my parents' cat had something it could "get better" from like that, I think I might be in the same boat.This is gonna make me sound heartless, but I really felt oddly let down when the cat rebounded due to the insulin shots.  Before getting diagnosed and treated, she was real thin and weak and looked old and, quite frankly, ready to die.  The insulin has made it energetic and fat and generally "alive" again...there's no reason it couldn't live another 5-10 years!  5-10 years getting shots twice a day, with medication that costs a lot of money...I just don't get it.  It's an animal...I can't get past that.But hey, it's cool people can.  I just think they don't need to expect or demand the same of other people.Kidney failure in cats is not something you can get better from. It creeps up so fast that they get very sick with a couple of days...at first i thought she just had a cold, but her body was shutting down and i got her to the vet just in time. Life span is generally a few weeks to a couple of years.  Doodle is pretty much living on borrowed time. But, she's living, and very well, right now. I think the fact that she is a young cat is what's keeping her going.  that and i totally spoil her to death.  

This message was edited by Jennitalia on 3-28-06 @ 1:58 PM