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margin
04-18-2006, 05:21 PM
<p>I secretly want to XM to fail misserably and Ron &amp; Fez to move to Sirius.&nbsp; It's not like Ron and Fez get any respect from XM anyway.&nbsp; </p><p>Apparently, XM just wants O&amp;A to get big, a hack morning zoo that have nothing to offer exept constant shit talking.&nbsp; It's kind of weird how they have to talk themselves up the way they do.&nbsp; Sort of like rappers talking abot how they're the greatest. Really, Who do are they trying to convince?&nbsp; Do they think listeners are stupid enough to judge a radio show on how much the hosts&nbsp;claim to have the best one on radio. Does actual substance have any meaning to them?&nbsp; I can announce that I can hit more homeruns than alex pujols, but&nbsp;everybodys gonna&nbsp;look at me like i'm insane until i actually pick up a bat and do it.</p><p>I'm wondering if it would be the same over at Sirius, considering how big Stern's ego is.&nbsp; But it's gotta be better than this.</p>

suggums
04-18-2006, 05:23 PM
i secretly want them to come back to wjfk.&nbsp; well not really, just fairfax<br />

Fallon
04-18-2006, 05:24 PM
XM has better portable units. I want R&amp;F to stay there.<br />

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 05:26 PM
<strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I secretly want to XM to fail misserably and Ron &amp; Fez to move to Sirius.&nbsp; It's not like Ron and Fez get any respect from XM anyway.&nbsp; </p><p>Apparently, XM just wants O&amp;A to get big, a hack morning zoo that have nothing to offer exept constant shit talking.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I stopped reading right after this lie.</p><p>Thanks for playing.</p>

Reephdweller
04-18-2006, 05:28 PM
<p>I secretly want XM to incorrectly credit me for life so I can get the service for free.</p><p>Other than that, I love the service and wish XM nothing but the best. </p><p>If Howard was actually interested in bringing talent to his channels he would have scooped up Ron and Fez long before. He clearly has no concept of picking other talented radio hosts. I don't say that as an O&amp;A disciple, which I'm not, but rather as someone who was a fan of his program years ago and saw over time what a phoney he is and how full of himself he is. Sirius and Howard will ultimately fail in my opinion.</p>

HBox
04-18-2006, 05:30 PM
<p><span class="postbody">I can announce that I can hit more homeruns than
alex pujols, but&nbsp;everybodys gonna&nbsp;look at me like i'm insane until i
actually pick up a bat and do it.</span> <br /></p><p>How about Albert Rodriguez?<br /></p>

margin
04-18-2006, 05:30 PM
<p>that's fine, moe</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 05:34 PM
<strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>that's fine, moe</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Did you actually mean &quot;that Moe's fine?&quot;</p><p>I think you did.&nbsp; FREAK!</p>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 05:34 PM
And fix your avatar pic before you reply.

ShelleBink
04-18-2006, 05:35 PM
<p>Well margin, you certainly are entitled to your opinion.&nbsp; I'm not going to do the whole &quot;Sirius sucks and XM rules thing&quot; because I've never used Sirius, so I don't have an accurate guage in which to compare the two.</p><p>But, I do need to ask, are you just mad that they aren't on Sirius because you bought a subscription with them?&nbsp; If so, your attempt to rationalize why R&amp;F should go to Sirius by attacking O&amp;A is kinda irrational.&nbsp; Perhaps you can explain further.&nbsp;</p>

Sheeplovr
04-18-2006, 05:37 PM
who's <span class="postbody">alex pujols</span>

suggums
04-18-2006, 05:38 PM
some guy baseball nerds like to talk about<br />

Tall_James
04-18-2006, 05:39 PM
<p>Let's fine Moe.</p><p>Wait...</p>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 05:39 PM
<strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Well margin, you certainly are entitled to your opinion.&nbsp; I'm not going to do the whole &quot;Sirius sucks and XM rules thing&quot; because I've never used Sirius, so I don't have an accurate guage in which to compare the two.</p><p>But, I do need to ask, are you just mad that they aren't on Sirius because you bought a subscription with them?&nbsp; If so, your attempt to rationalize why R&amp;F should go to Sirius by attacking O&amp;A is kinda irrational.&nbsp; Perhaps you can explain further.&nbsp;</p><p>And I base my opinion on actually having heard Sirius' music stations and being less than impressed.&nbsp; They have jocks on like every station it seemed, there wasn't nearl enough Metal like everyone says and I actually heard a fucking morning zoo on one of the pop stations.&nbsp; Blech.</p><p>XM has jocks on some stations but there is FAR less talk.</p><p>I also base my opinion on knowing what Stern's been doing for the past 5 years.&nbsp; Nothing.&nbsp; He wasn't doing ANYTHING of any worth for years, and suddenly he's going to start a revolution at Sirius?&nbsp; Well it seems 8-10 million of his projected fans said &quot;No thanks&quot; too.</p>

HBox
04-18-2006, 05:40 PM
BTW, on a SIRIUS note (HUDDLA HUDDLAH!), you do realize the hypocrisy in complaining that R&amp;F get no respect from XM, and then complainig about the way O&amp;A talk themselves up, right? O&amp;A invented complaining about getting no respect from XM. Tell em, Fred.<br />

margin
04-18-2006, 05:45 PM
<p>yeah, i fucked up the albert pujols.&nbsp; i'm leaving it there.</p>

ShelleBink
04-18-2006, 05:54 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>yeah, i fucked up the albert pujols. i'm leaving it there.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>What about the rest of your post?&nbsp;</p>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 05:57 PM
<strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>yeah, i fucked up the albert pujols. i'm leaving it there.</p><p>What about the rest of your post?&nbsp;</p><p>ZING!</p>

TheMojoPin
04-18-2006, 05:59 PM
What does this guy have to explain?&nbsp; He doesn't like O&amp;A's XM show, and thinks it sucks that R&amp;F seem to be getting overshadowed by the High Voltage &quot;shock jock&quot; image?&nbsp; It's probably because I agree with him 100%, but it seems like he spelled it out pretty clear.&nbsp; Now, I don't know if Sirius would be any better...but I definitely think R&amp;F would benefit getting onto a different XM channel at least.&nbsp; It's cool O&amp;A helped them in the door and got them this spot, but I just can't stand their XM shows.&nbsp; And it has nothing to do with &quot;intelligence&quot; or whatever the hell else people get all defensive about when the two shows are compared...I know what I like, and O&amp;A aren't it.&nbsp; And it's not just that they're the bigger show, because they are, for better or for worse...it seems to me like R&amp;F's show&nbsp;get even LESS individual promotion because they're squeezed into the vague &quot;High Voltage&quot; umbrella.

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 06:01 PM
<p>My problem was when he called O&amp;A&nbsp;a &quot;Morning Zoo&quot; which is so far from the truth it's sickening.</p><p>He is more than free to think Stern rulz, O&amp;A are clones and he can show his solidarity by flushing his XM down the toilet.....</p><p>well you know the rest.</p>

ShelleBink
04-18-2006, 06:04 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />What does this guy have to explain? He doesn't like O&amp;A's XM show, and thinks it sucks that R&amp;F seem to be getting overshadowed by the High Voltage &quot;shock jock&quot; image? It's probably because I agree with him 100%, but it seems like he spelled it out pretty clear. Now, I don't know if Sirius would be any better...but I definitely think R&amp;F would benefit getting onto a different XM channel at least. It's cool O&amp;A helped them in the door and got them this spot, but I just can't stand their XM shows. And it has nothing to do with &quot;intelligence&quot; or whatever the hell else people get all defensive about when the two shows are compared...I know what I like, and O&amp;A aren't it. And it's not just that they're the bigger show, because they are, for better or for worse...it seems to me like R&amp;F's show get even LESS individual promotion because they're squeezed into the vague &quot;High Voltage&quot; umbrella.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Any reason why you're a bit more cranky than usual Mojo?&nbsp;</p>

margin
04-18-2006, 06:04 PM
<strong>Reefdweller</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If Howard was actually interested in bringing talent to his channels he would have scooped up Ron and Fez long before. He clearly has no concept of picking other talented radio hosts. I don't say that as an O&amp;A disciple, which I'm not, but rather as someone who was a fan of his program years ago and saw over time what a phoney he is and how full of himself he is. </p><p>This is all true.&nbsp; </p><p>This isn't a ProStern thread, it's an AntiXM thread.&nbsp; I listen to Stern's show maybe twice a month and it's more entertaining than O&amp;A.&nbsp; That's not saying much.</p><p>I don't have a XM or a Sirius, so i'm a leach speaking my mind about something I don't pay for. THough, I would buy a Sirius if Ron &amp; Fez were there. I really don't care about the music channels because i would rarely listening to music on radio since the invention of mp3s.</p><p><font size="2">How much attention do Ron and Fez get from XM?&nbsp; How long were the phones broken?&nbsp; From what I hear from you guys, they don't get a lot of replays(not saying that would be different at Sirius). They don't get their faces on any posters.&nbsp; They aren't treating the guys like they care if they stay or leave, <font size="4">IMO.</font></font></p>

margin
04-18-2006, 06:10 PM
<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My problem was when he called O&amp;A&nbsp;a &quot;Morning Zoo&quot; which is so far from the truth it's sickening.</p><p>Laughing on mic constantly</p><p>&nbsp;whacky contests and WOW(a supposed goof on morning zoo shows that has long ran out of steam) </p><p>Sucking the D of the man,ie: Hannity and Jay Leno</p><p>-i didn't want to get into this</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by margin on 4-18-06 @ 10:14 PM</span>

ShelleBink
04-18-2006, 06:11 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Reefdweller</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If Howard was actually interested in bringing talent to his channels he would have scooped up Ron and Fez long before. He clearly has no concept of picking other talented radio hosts. I don't say that as an O&amp;A disciple, which I'm not, but rather as someone who was a fan of his program years ago and saw over time what a phoney he is and how full of himself he is. </p><p>This is all true. </p><p>This isn't a ProStern thread, it's an AntiXM thread. I listen to Stern's show maybe twice a month and it's more entertaining than O&amp;A. That's not saying much.</p><p>I don't have a XM or a Sirius, so i'm a leach speaking my mind about something I don't pay for. THough, I would buy a Sirius if Ron &amp; Fez were there. I really don't care about the music channels because i would rarely listening to music on radio since the invention of mp3s.</p><p><font size="2">How much attention do Ron and Fez get from XM? How long were the phones broken? From what I hear from you guys, they don't get a lot of replays(not saying that would be different at Sirius). They don't get their faces on any posters. They aren't treating the guys like they care if they stay or leave, <font size="4">IMO.</font></font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As I said initially, you're entitled to your opinion.&nbsp; Personally, I enjoy my XM with what it offers, both Opie&amp;Anthony and Ron and Fez; as well as the music channels.&nbsp; I can honestly said I've heard a lot of music on the channels I enjoy and have found out about bands and songs that I probably wouldn't have heard of otherwise.&nbsp; Granted, this would be true if I subscribed to Sirius and listened to their music channels, but I also enjoy the fact that the XM units are more portable, and from what I understand, do not &quot;heat up&quot; as much as the Sirius units.</p><p>I don't feel I need to defend my opinions and preference, and I am not attacking you in any way, margin.&nbsp; Yes, R&amp;F are overshadowed by O&amp;A, I will definately agree to that fact.&nbsp; But there is a clear and simple history of radio not being &quot;stable&quot; and has a tendency to change.&nbsp; So, I would think that XM and the powers that be will probably be doing more to add more to the High Voltage channel.&nbsp; When will this happen?&nbsp; I don't know, but I'm sure it will.&nbsp; But for now, I enjoy what I have at the moment.&nbsp;</p>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 06:13 PM
<strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My problem was when he called O&amp;A&nbsp;a &quot;Morning Zoo&quot; which is so far from the truth it's sickening.</p><p>Laughing on mic constantly, whacky contests and WOW(a supposed goof on morning zoo shows that has long ran out of steam) to name a few.</p><p>That's all you got against O&amp;A?&nbsp; Sure, that's got &quot;Zoo&quot; all over it.</p>

mendyweiss
04-18-2006, 06:13 PM
<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>that's fine, moe</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Did you actually mean &quot;that Moe's fine?&quot;</p><p>I think you did.&nbsp; FREAK!</p><p>Actually, its Moe Howard, and Larry Fine.</p>

margin
04-18-2006, 06:18 PM
<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My problem was when he called O&amp;A&nbsp;a &quot;Morning Zoo&quot; which is so far from the truth it's sickening.</p><p>Laughing on mic constantly, whacky contests and WOW(a supposed goof on morning zoo shows that has long ran out of steam) to name a few.</p><p>That's all you got against O&amp;A?&nbsp; Sure, that's got &quot;Zoo&quot; all over it.</p><p>I've said what I don't like about O&amp;A in my first post, the one you&nbsp;couldn't get through.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by margin on 4-18-06 @ 10:19 PM</span>

ShelleBink
04-18-2006, 06:19 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My problem was when he called O&amp;A a &quot;Morning Zoo&quot; which is so far from the truth it's sickening.</p><p>Laughing on mic constantly</p><p> whacky contests and WOW(a supposed goof on morning zoo shows that has long ran out of steam) </p><p>Sucking the D of the man,ie: Hannity and Jay Leno</p><p>-i didn't want to get into this</p>

<span class="post_edited">This message was edited by margin on 4-18-06 @ 10:14 PM</span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Not to be a dick, but if you &quot;didn't want to get into this&quot;, then why'd you post a thread having a strong understanding of the response you'd get? </p>

jagsfans
04-18-2006, 06:21 PM
<p>R&amp;F hardly play to O&amp;A's ego as anyone working for Stern must do.&nbsp; The show's honestly are seperate shows with a very similar listening base.&nbsp; </p><p>Also I have been listening to old WNEW and WJFK, mostly JFK shows and they really have'nt changed much.&nbsp; They still have comical topic converstations.&nbsp; Ron and Fez play off each other the same way.&nbsp; The biggest difference is lack of crazy characters and can anyone say less Crazy Jen is a bad thing?</p>

margin
04-18-2006, 06:22 PM
<strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My problem was when he called O&amp;A a &quot;Morning Zoo&quot; which is so far from the truth it's sickening.</p><p>Laughing on mic constantly</p><p>whacky contests and WOW(a supposed goof on morning zoo shows that has long ran out of steam) </p><p>Sucking the D of the man,ie: Hannity and Jay Leno</p><p>-i didn't want to get into this</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by margin on 4-18-06 @ 10:14 PM</span> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Not to be a dick, but if you &quot;didn't want to get into this&quot;, then why'd you post a thread having a strong understanding of the response you'd get? </p><p>I was hoping more than one person would agree.</p><p>what a utopia we'd live in</p>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 06:24 PM
Well they don't.&nbsp; It's called an unpopular opinion.&nbsp;

margin
04-18-2006, 06:35 PM
<p><img src="http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9468/250pxracheldratchdebbie3nw.jpg" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by margin on 4-18-06 @ 10:35 PM</span>

Death Metal Moe
04-18-2006, 06:41 PM
HA!&nbsp; At least you have a sense of humor.&nbsp; That fucking picture gets me everytime, even though SNL should be blown up.

bobrobot
04-18-2006, 07:11 PM
<p><strong><font color="#000099">I secretly wish that Ron &amp; Fez would show up at <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/71/Topic/49635/page/RonFez_Net_DADA_Day_in_DC.htm" target="_blank">RonFez.Net DADA Day in DC</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/71/Topic/49635/page/RonFez_Net_DADA_Day_in_DC.htm" target="_self"> this Sunday April 23rd&nbsp;at the National Gallery's East Building Mezzanine at 1 p.m.,</a>&nbsp;dressed as Popeye &amp; Olive Oyl, <font color="#ff0000">even tho they aren't actually coming at all</font>, &nbsp;but let's just make that our lil secret, mmmm K? </font></strong></p><p><img height="180" src="http://www.popeye-n-olive.com/image/pic1.gif" width="180" border="0" /></p><p>Oh,,, &amp; I dig XM, Godammit!!!</p><p><strong><font color="#000099" /></strong></p>

realism1976
04-18-2006, 07:15 PM
I love o&amp;A but i do think ron and fez are smarter and way more clever in there humor

FUNKMAN
04-18-2006, 07:17 PM
<p><strong><font size="7">XM</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="4">no static at all</font></strong></p>

suggums
04-18-2006, 07:17 PM
right bobo, they aren't coming <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" /><br />

SinA
04-18-2006, 07:31 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Margin, you bring up some very interesting points.&nbsp; I too wonder if Ron and Fez's show would be funnier on Sirius, since Ron is such a big fan of Howard Stern and would&nbsp;obviously love&nbsp;to work for him.&nbsp; And Fez would really fit in on the Howard 100/101 crew with Gary and Artie and the other guy and the black lady.</p><p><img height="299" src="http://www.cringehumor.net/pictures/norton_roast031004/57.jpg" width="213" border="0" /></p><p><font size="2"><strong>&quot;Take your XM, flush it down the toilet, buy a Sirius and go fuck your mother.&quot; ~Lil' Jimmy Norton</strong></font></p>

NortonRules
04-18-2006, 07:31 PM
<p>I'm rooting for Jessica Alba to knock on my door and beg me to bang her and her new friend Scarlett Johanson.&nbsp; Without condoms.&nbsp; </p>

Plethora
04-18-2006, 07:46 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />What does this guy have to explain? He doesn't like O&amp;A's XM show, and thinks it sucks that R&amp;F seem to be getting overshadowed by the High Voltage &quot;shock jock&quot; image? It's probably because I agree with him 100%, but it seems like he spelled it out pretty clear. Now, I don't know if Sirius would be any better...but I definitely think R&amp;F would benefit getting onto a different XM channel at least. It's cool O&amp;A helped them in the door and got them this spot, but I just can't stand their XM shows. And it has nothing to do with &quot;intelligence&quot; or whatever the hell else people get all defensive about when the two shows are compared...I know what I like, and O&amp;A aren't it. And it's not just that they're the bigger show, because they are, for better or for worse...it seems to me like R&amp;F's show get even LESS individual promotion because they're squeezed into the vague &quot;High Voltage&quot; umbrella.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Very well said Mojo.&nbsp; I agree completely and <em>deeply.</em><br /></p><p>And, yep, margin's opinion might not be popular, but he is definitely not alone.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Marc with a c
04-18-2006, 07:50 PM
<p>i dont know why you guys are worried, &quot;big&quot; things are coming soon.&nbsp; opie said so, and he has a microphone.</p>

SinA
04-18-2006, 07:56 PM
<strong>Plethora</strong> wrote: <p>Very well said Mojo.&nbsp; I agree completely and <em>deeply.</em><br /></p><p>And, yep, margin's opinion might not be popular, but he is definitely not alone.</p><p>Well... we get to hear Ron and Fez do an uncensored show, so I assume we're getting the best and most honest radio that that feel they can do.&nbsp; Could they do better in another situation?</p><p>Certainly not on FM.&nbsp; Anyone clinging to the idea that they will be returning to free radio just don't get it.&nbsp; Could they do better on Sirius?&nbsp; Maybe.&nbsp; But right now there are only two satellite services, and the other one is paying one hack 100 MILLION per year and not getting the booming subs they anticipated.&nbsp; I think XM, for all its faults, probably looks more stable to the boys right now.</p><p>Beyond that, I don't know what their other options could be if not on satellite radio.&nbsp; I've seen Ron and Fez.&nbsp; They can't do TV.</p>

Gvac
04-18-2006, 07:58 PM
<p>I can't believe Ron and Fez are showing up to DADA day in DC!</p><p>That's awesome, Bobo! &nbsp;<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/bye.gif" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And just to throw in my 2 cents, I bought XM radio because of Ron and Fez but now can't live without it.&nbsp; Of course I'd follow the boys wherever they went, but with all of the music, comedy, and sports I get with XM I don't turn it off as soon as R&amp;F are over.&nbsp; I don't think I could ever go back to terrestrial radio again.</p><p>That being said, I'm with Margin and Mojo as far as not being a big O&amp;A fan and being <em>extremely </em>disappointed in the lack of promotion and respect Ron and Fez have received from XM thus far.&nbsp; When I was in the studio all I saw was huge banners and placards promoting Opie and Anthony and not a single mention of Ron and Fez on any of them.&nbsp; It's frustrating as a fan, but I guess XM is more committed to the &quot;big boys.&quot;&nbsp; I hope they truly appreciate what they have in the Ron and Fez show; two unique talents with a rabidly loyal fan base, and I also hope XM never experiences first hand the &quot;you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone&quot; feeling. &nbsp; <br /></p>

Plethora
04-18-2006, 08:01 PM
<p>I need to amend -- I'm with margin as far as the O&amp;A stuff goes. As for XM or Sirius succeeding or failing -- I don't really care, and why would one who is not a major shareholder? I <em>do</em> want great things for R&amp;F above all else though... The O&amp;A thing is my personal preference. If R&amp;F are happy now on 202 with things the way they are, c'est la vie &amp; good for them!</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Plethora on 4-19-06 @ 12:03 AM</span>

FezPaul
04-18-2006, 08:02 PM
<p>Actually, XM has failed.</p><p>They've failed to come up with decent programming on 152.</p><p>Why waste an XL channel on FCC regulated hacks?</p>

narc
04-18-2006, 08:12 PM
The whole satellite thing is a mixed bag for both O&A and R&F since I like both shows. O&A are certainly able to do edgier bits, which is great. I for one will say I don't like the swearing, just because I think the euphemisms and circumlocutions they'd have to use were a lot funnier. And even if they did get dumped out of, that was funny too because they'd come back and be laughing their asses off or be pissed that they got dumped, both of which are funny.

Snoogans
04-18-2006, 08:20 PM
wait wait wait. WOW was supposed to be a poke at morning shows? I thought it was to see tits<br />

tele7
04-18-2006, 08:24 PM
<strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />The whole satellite thing is a mixed bag for both O&amp;A and R&amp;F since I like both shows. O&amp;A are certainly able to do edgier bits, which is great. I for one will say I don't like the swearing, just because I think the euphemisms and circumlocutions they'd have to use were a lot funnier. And even if they did get dumped out of, that was funny too because they'd come back and be laughing their asses off or be pissed that they got dumped, both of which are funny. <p>The swearing does'nt bother me too much, but Patrice is going way overboard lately.&nbsp;Every other word out of his mouth is <em>Motherfucker.</em>&nbsp;</p>

TheMojoPin
04-18-2006, 09:11 PM
<strong>SinA</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Plethora</strong> wrote: <p>Very well said Mojo.&nbsp; I agree completely and <em>deeply.</em><br /></p><p>And, yep, margin's opinion might not be popular, but he is definitely not alone.</p><p>Well... we get to hear Ron and Fez do an uncensored show, so I assume we're getting the best and most honest radio that that feel they can do.&nbsp; Could they do better in another situation?</p><p>Certainly not on FM.&nbsp; Anyone clinging to the idea that they will be returning to free radio just don't get it.&nbsp; Could they do better on Sirius?&nbsp; Maybe.&nbsp; But right now there are only two satellite services, and the other one is paying one hack 100 MILLION per year and not getting the booming subs they anticipated.&nbsp; I think XM, for all its faults, probably looks more stable to the boys right now.</p><p>Beyond that, I don't know what their other options could be if not on satellite radio.&nbsp; I've seen Ron and Fez.&nbsp; They can't do TV.</p><p>Nobody's bringing up the idea that they need to be off satellite altogether.&nbsp; I think the line of thought is that it would be more enjoyable if R&amp;F were treated and advertised as their own show as opposed to just being a&nbsp;random ingrediant&nbsp;in the High Voltage mish-mash.&nbsp; There's plenty of talk shows on Xm that have zero to do with O&amp;A.&nbsp; Why can't R&amp;F be one of them?&nbsp; And I'm not saying the shows can't cross over or they can't be friends...I'm just not fond of the way that XM seems to present R&amp;F as if they're hinged on O&amp;A.</p>

Reephdweller
04-19-2006, 01:50 AM
<p>As far as advertising and promotion goes, yeah I agree that XM needs to a lot more to promote the show. If anything in comparison to both shows Ron and Fez have demonstrated quite well that they are capable of pulling off amazing interviews, having logical and sometimes illogical discussions, talking sports, politics, popular culture, as well as independant forms of entertainment. In a reality compared to O&amp;A's show Ron and Fez are much more mature and professional. They should get much more accolades and support from the company. Though I have to wonder if perhaps it's more about what Ron and Fez want themselves. I've heard Ron say from time to time that they don't like to make a big spectacle of themselves, that they enjoy being quietly in the background doing their thing and working and making a living. </p><p>I think it's less about taking on the world and being the biggest baddest radio show. I think they just want to exist and do what they love to do. One of the things that makes me think of this is that they already established back in the Ron and Ron days that they can put together wildy successful show. If you even see the old <a href="http://www.ronandron.com/" target="_blank">Ron and Ron website</a> they had pretty intense show that in todays age could probably rival O&amp;A. Also when O&amp;A went off the air at WNEW I remember their first ratings book after that happened that Ron and Fez managed to keep the number 1 spot in the age ratios that Infinity was trying to have O&amp;A get. To me that just speaks to the show and their abilities. I think Ron and Fez are ultimately as big as they want themselves to be. Granted I still think XM should promote them more, but perhaps Ron and Fez are happy enough with that they get. I'm not sure myself, though they may just be happy they way it is and where they are. It sure sounds to me like their having a blast. When I listened to their DC shows (and this is no slam on DC), but it sounded to me like they were miserable. I think they're happy to be back in NY and able to do a show they want to do it. I also think they have a much better chance at XM than they would at Sirius. </p>

alwat
04-19-2006, 02:17 AM
<strong>Opie and Anthony fucking suck</strong>. I have both services and sirius has alot more funny talk shows then xm. Jim breuer, jay thomas, and of course howard. O and A suck all they do is try and be shock jocks. Only people at the bottom bitch about the people on top. Look howard's a dick whine whine that shit get's old quick. That's why nobody fucking goes on there show everybody is turning there back lame ass people . How many times can they do the same old jokes and be funny i.e get aids and die, dice impression. The only reason I listen to 202 is for ron and fez. The only time I can listen to o and a is when patrice is in that's it. <br />

Rockvillejoe
04-19-2006, 02:21 AM
In the long term, it's a moot point. I bet these two Satellite services eventually will merge into a one fee, one service conglomerate. Shows will be &nbsp;put together and packaged cafeteria style. Keep in mind we are in the infancy of this&nbsp;form of entertainment. We'll look back at these&nbsp;&quot;over the dash, wires everywhere&quot; days the same way we&nbsp; now look at&nbsp; the over the dash 8 track tape decks. The conservatives will soon declare open season on this uncensorsed brand of communication. This will&nbsp; prompt XM and Sirius to band together to save their collective hides, and then eventually merge. Ron and Fez are currently treated like&nbsp;red headed step children, but thank god they are on the air. Give them one of those 50 baseball channels and run them continuously on a loop like O&amp;A. &nbsp;

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 4-19-06 @ 6:22 AM</span>

Death Metal Moe
04-19-2006, 04:30 AM
<strong>alwat</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Opie and Anthony fucking suck</strong>. I have both services and sirius has alot more funny talk shows then xm. Jim breuer, jay thomas, and of course howard. O and A suck all they do is try and be shock jocks. Only people at the bottom bitch about the people on top. Look howard's a dick whine whine that shit get's old quick. That's why nobody fucking goes on there show everybody is turning there back lame ass people . How many times can they do the same old jokes and be funny i.e get aids and die, dice impression. The only reason I listen to 202 is for ron and fez. The only time I can listen to o and a is when patrice is in that's it. <br /><p><strong><font size="6">HI ANGRY TYPING ZOMBIE!!!</font></strong></p>

Sheeplovr
04-19-2006, 04:38 AM
<p>what a dumb thread for reals </p><p>there people dieing somewhere and people complain about radio shows like its more important then war or genocide</p><p>now what something important to complain about</p><p>new co hosts on G4 tv attack of the show</p><p>now thats pretty bad<br />
</p>

KC2OSO
04-19-2006, 04:51 AM
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Rockvillejoe</strong> wrote:<br />I bet these two Satellite services
eventually will merge into a one fee, one service conglomerate. Shows
will be put together and packaged cafeteria style. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 4-19-06 @ 6:22 AM</span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2" /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="6">&nbsp;<font size="5">BOTH SERVICES WILL BE DESTROYED!</font></font><br />
</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

EliSnow
04-19-2006, 05:01 AM
<strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I secretly want to XM to fail misserably and Ron &amp; Fez to move to Sirius.&nbsp; </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">And I want the Make Believe Ballroom Mr. Johnson.</font></p>

Death Metal Moe
04-19-2006, 05:02 AM
<strong>EliSnow</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I secretly want to XM to fail misserably and Ron &amp; Fez to move to Sirius.&nbsp; </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">And I want the Make Believe Ballroom Mr. Johnson.</font></p><p>&quot;FUCK YOU!&nbsp; GOOD-BYE!&quot;</p><p>&quot;WOOOOOOOOOOAAAAH!!!&quot;</p>

EliSnow
04-19-2006, 05:03 AM
<p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Somehow a double post occurred two minutes apart.</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by EliSnow on 4-19-06 @ 9:50 AM</span>

Rockvillejoe
04-19-2006, 05:20 AM
<strong>KC2OSO</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Rockvillejoe</strong> wrote:<br />I bet these two Satellite services eventually will merge into a one fee, one service conglomerate. Shows will be put together and packaged cafeteria style. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 4-19-06 @ 6:22 AM</span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="6">&nbsp;<font size="5">BOTH SERVICES WILL BE DESTROYED!</font></font><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Your'e scaring me........</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

curtoid
04-19-2006, 05:48 AM
<p>I'm root - root - rooting for the home team.</p><p><img height="269" src="http://www.savetibet.org/images/hhdlvisits/2005/10.jpg" width="420" border="0" /></p><p>Seriously - there seems to be something very unAmerican in hoping for the demise of a company. I've felt like this during all the ridiculous Sirius bashing, and this is just as silly to me. I have both - I like both - they are each reaching people who want them and the competition will hopefully force both to continue to try to&nbsp;do better. </p><p>A lot of the criticism on here echos stuff I was afraid would happen and wrote ad-nausium before R&amp;F left for satellite radio, so I understand that frustration. I fully believe that there is no other radio show better than Ron and Fez, and if I let myself I can get pretty ticked off on the pettiest of slights, whether or not they were slights at all. However, <strong>they</strong> have made it pretty clear that they are where they want to be - not Fairfax, Sirius or Tampa - and so the success of XM, 202 and O&amp;A will only help Ron and Fez. </p><p>And if they change to a different station or company down the road - it too will be because that's where they want to be. </p><p>Personally, I don't see it as such a negative that there are people who like them but hate O&amp;A. How is that different from the folks who hate The Monsters, a show R&amp;F are very tight with? I've said it before - it speaks very well of Ron and Fez that they have fans who are also fans of Stern, O&amp;A, D&amp;M, The Hideout, The Monsters, etc. I actually find that diversity a plus, and not something that should be defensive about.</p><p>The upside with them on XM is pretty big - they currently have a chance at reaching more people than they would at Sirius. We don't know exact numbers, but there's a good chance they have more listeners now than they did at either WNEW or WJFK. Hell, all you have to do is see the crowds that have shown up for their bar appearances to see that they are reaching a hellofalot of people. Their replay schedule could be better, but at least they have a replay schedule. Most radio shows don't even have that! Last month I was on a 500 mile roadtrip during the show, and was able to hear them across 4 different states. I loved that!! </p>

Death Metal Moe
04-19-2006, 05:57 AM
<p>Seriously - there seems to be something very unAmerican in hoping for the demise of a company.</p><p>Exactly.&nbsp; I don't hope Sirius fails, I just like that the satellite I have is the better one and I enjoy it.&nbsp; Sirius and XM are both taking away customers from Terrestrial and it's great.</p><p>I hope Stern fails, just my personal opinion, but if people are enjoying the revolution of hookers on air and re-recorded bits, have a blast folks.</p>

narc
04-19-2006, 11:30 AM
<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>alwat</strong> wrote:<br><strong>Opie and Anthony fucking suck</strong>. I have both services and sirius has alot more funny talk shows then xm. Jim breuer, jay thomas, and of course howard. O and A suck all they do is try and be shock jocks. Only people at the bottom bitch about the people on top. Look howard's a dick whine whine that shit get's old quick. That's why nobody fucking goes on there show everybody is turning there back lame ass people . How many times can they do the same old jokes and be funny i.e get aids and die, dice impression. The only reason I listen to 202 is for ron and fez. The only time I can listen to o and a is when patrice is in that's it. <br /><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

For the record, let me just say I have never, ever found anything Jim Breuer has said to be remotely funny. I know I'm in the minority. Thank you.

Death Metal Moe
04-19-2006, 11:32 AM
Well then it's a minority of 2 narc.&nbsp; The guy can get stupid/funny but other than that, he's an average guest at best.&nbsp; I can't imagine listening to him on the radio by himself.

Terragen
04-19-2006, 11:39 AM
<p><font size="2">Ron and Fez just get shit on, and you know what? They
grow beautiful mushrooms and herbs from that big pile of shit! They got
moved around every three months to accomodate that schizo station JFK,
never really complained. Always entertained me, I moved my schedule
around just to hear them every night/midday/whatever. </font></p><p><font size="2">Give
RnF some respect XM! Why is it the real talents don't get recognized
while egomaniacs like Hoo-Hoo get put on pedestals!? RnF are popular
cuz they're good and they don't take themselves too serious...</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">Where am I going with this?&nbsp; I LOVE YOU RON AND FEZ !!!<br />
</font></p><font size="2" />

J.Clints
04-19-2006, 11:45 AM
<strong>Terragen</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="2">Ron and Fez just get shit on, and you know what? They grow beautiful mushrooms and herbs from that big pile of shit! They got moved around every three months to accomodate that schizo station JFK, never really complained. Always entertained me, I moved my schedule around just to hear them every night/midday/whatever. </font></p><p><font size="2">Give RnF some respect XM! Why is it the real talents don't get recognized while egomaniacs like Hoo-Hoo get put on pedestals!? RnF are popular cuz they're good and they don't take themselves too serious...</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">Where am I going with this?&nbsp; I LOVE YOU RON AND FEZ !!!<br /></font></p><font size="2"><p>I second this motion. Thank you for saying what we all think.</p></font>

SinA
04-19-2006, 04:43 PM
<strong>Terragen</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="2">Ron and Fez just get shit on, and you know what? They grow beautiful mushrooms and herbs from that big pile of shit! They got moved around every three months to accomodate that schizo station JFK, never really complained. Always entertained me, I moved my schedule around just to hear them every night/midday/whatever. </font></p><p><font size="2">Give RnF some respect XM! Why is it the real talents don't get recognized while egomaniacs like Hoo-Hoo get put on pedestals!? RnF are popular cuz they're good and they don't take themselves too serious...</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">Where am I going with this?&nbsp; I LOVE YOU RON AND FEZ !!!<br /></font></p><font size="2"><p>IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!</p><p><img src="http://video.download.com/i/dl/vdl/media/image/39/00/1/10039_320x240.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>me too.</p></font>

ChimneyFish
04-20-2006, 11:38 AM
<strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" color="#ff3300" size="2">&quot;Is this some kind of sick joke????&quot;</font></em></strong>

EliSnow
04-20-2006, 12:01 PM
<strong>Terragen</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="2">Ron and Fez just get shit on, and you know what? They grow beautiful mushrooms and herbs from that big pile of shit! They got moved around every three months to accomodate that schizo station JFK, never really complained. Always entertained me, I moved my schedule around just to hear them every night/midday/whatever. </font></p><p><font size="2">Give RnF some respect XM! Why is it the real talents don't get recognized while egomaniacs like Hoo-Hoo get put on pedestals!? RnF are popular cuz they're good and they don't take themselves too serious...</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">Where am I going with this?&nbsp; I LOVE YOU RON AND FEZ !!!<br /></font></p><font size="2"><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Stop making pussy noises!!!!</font></p></font>

jax
04-20-2006, 03:28 PM
When I heard the radio chick's show was moving back to regular radio there was a moment when I secretly wished it was Ron and Fez.&nbsp; I can't listen now.&nbsp;The mobile unit didn't work for me (I think it was the pioneer airware or something).&nbsp; If I was in the city it worked great but home or out hiking it didn't always come in.&nbsp; Also the record feature didn't always work properly so I ended up returning it in frustration and cancelling the sub.&nbsp; I've been waiting for the next generation of portables to come out.

Bama
04-20-2006, 05:46 PM
<p>If R &amp; F moved to sirius my myfi would be on ebay that night. I'd have a sirius system within the week. If O &amp; A moved to sirius I'd be happy. </p><p>It's stupid that O &amp; A claim so much credit for XM's success when there are a lot of us who bought in despite them. </p>

sleepyeyed_Jynx
04-22-2006, 11:05 PM
i wish ron and fez would get at least replays after all the o &amp; a
replays on the week days. i wonder what slot theyll be in when o &amp;
a move to krock and stretch their show <br />

Reephdweller
04-23-2006, 09:30 AM
<p>It's stupid that O &amp; A claim so much credit for XM's success when there are a lot of us who bought in despite them</p><p>This is not true at all. The only time they take credit is when they try to show how preposterous Howard's &quot;Howie Math&quot; is in relation to Sirius's growth and how if he can make that assertion then they can as well. If we are to follow the Howie math though then yeah they have been a tremendous reason for their success, though even they have at numerous times explained themsleves that it's rediculous to think that.</p>

Contra
04-23-2006, 02:05 PM
It's kind of weird how they have to talk themselves up the way they do. Sort of like rappers talking abot how they're the greatest. Really, Who do are they trying to convince? Do they think listeners are stupid enough to judge a radio show on how much the hosts claim to have the best one on radio.

How many fans does Stern have?

I look at it this way, Ron and Fez are on the air, somewhere!

As long as the file library stays current (I get XM in two weeks!) I'm happy. It's not like they weren't shit on by WNEW, WJFK, etc. I agree with Reef's comments, which are that Ron and Fez are humble, and don't mind not being the spotlight. They are happy were they are, and cancellation doesn't look to be in the near future. So if you are a true Ron and Fez fan, what's the problem, besides the "I have to pay to listen" complaint?

I blame it on the Pussification of America!

Duke
04-23-2006, 03:27 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>margin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I secretly want to XM to fail misserably and Ron &amp; Fez to move to Sirius. It's not like Ron and Fez get any respect from XM anyway. </p><p>Apparently, XM just wants O&amp;A to get big, a hack morning zoo that have nothing to offer exept constant shit talking. It's kind of weird how they have to talk themselves up the way they do. Sort of like rappers talking abot how they're the greatest. Really, Who do are they trying to convince? Do they think listeners are stupid enough to judge a radio show on how much the hosts claim to have the best one on radio. Does actual substance have any meaning to them? I can announce that I can hit more homeruns than alex pujols, but everybodys gonna look at me like i'm insane until i actually pick up a bat and do it.</p><p>I'm wondering if it would be the same over at Sirius, considering how big Stern's ego is. But it's gotta be better than this.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>im rooting for you to fail &nbsp;</p>

Contra
04-23-2006, 07:26 PM
OH!

margin
04-23-2006, 11:53 PM
<strong>Contra</strong> wrote:<br />It's kind of weird how they have to talk themselves up the way they do. Sort of like rappers talking abot how they're the greatest. Really, Who do are they trying to convince? Do they think listeners are stupid enough to judge a radio show on how much the hosts claim to have the best one on radio. How many fans does Stern have? I look at it this way, Ron and Fez are on the air, somewhere! As long as the file library stays current (I get XM in two weeks!) I'm happy. It's not like they weren't shit on by WNEW, WJFK, etc. I agree with Reef's comments, which are that Ron and Fez are humble, and don't mind not being the spotlight. They are happy were they are, and cancellation doesn't look to be in the near future. So if you are a true Ron and Fez fan, what's the problem, besides the &quot;I have to pay to listen&quot; complaint? I blame it on the Pussification of America! <p>I guess I got caught up in the moment when starting this thread.&nbsp; I shouldn't have bashed O&amp;A and just talked about the treatment of Ron&amp;Fez by XM.&nbsp; Even that might have been a dumb topic, because Ron seems more than capable&nbsp;of fighting his own fights, and I have nothing that would lead me to believe that Sirius would treat the guys any better than XM do.</p><p>I should just be just happy that Ron&amp;Fez have a show that i can listen to and enjoy, you're right.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Duke</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>im rooting for you to fail &nbsp;</p><p>the odds are in your favor</p>