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Furtherman

05-19-2006, 01:17 PM

I'd rather have titled it Pope Benedict the Fuck but hey, this is a kid joint.  Oh, speaking of kids, here is a priest, Rev. Marcial Maciel, who has been a kid toucher for 50 years.The Vatican finally decided to do something about it.  They censured him.That's right... after 50 years - with allegations starting in the 1940s!!! - the church decided to, invite this asshole to withdraw to "a reserved life of prayer and penitence and not carry out his ministry in public."Fuck you Vatican City.  Yes, the Pope does shit in the woods as well on all the lives that have been ruined by priests such as the Rev. Marcial Maciel.  Oh, he can't say mass?  Boo fuckin' hoo.  How about throwing this old KT in jail for the rest of his pitiful life.Edit: Story: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/05/19/pope.legionaires.reut/index.html" target="_blank">Pope censures Mexican priest after abuse probe</a><img height="168" src="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/americas/05/19/pope.legionaires.reut/story.vatican.ap.jpg" width="220" border="0" />Don't worry... no one will tell, hey... we're the Church!  

This message was edited by Furtherman on 5-19-06 @ 5:19 PM

badorties

05-19-2006, 01:19 PM

I'd rather have titled it Pope Benedict the Fuck but hey, this is a kid joint.there does seems to a fair share of potty-mouthed topic titles lately ...

DarkHippie

05-19-2006, 06:26 PM

Oh, he can't say mass?  Boo fuckin' hoo.  How about throwing this old KT in jail for the rest of his pitiful life.I'm with ya, but can the church throw people in jail?

FezPaul

05-19-2006, 07:12 PM

DarkHippie wrote: Oh, he can't say mass?  Boo fuckin' hoo.  How about throwing this old KT in jail for the rest of his pitiful life.I'm with ya, but can the church throw people in jail?  According to furtherman, all churches have thrown us all in jail.     <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />

TooLowBrow

04-17-2008, 01:35 PM

"It is in the context of this hope, born of God's love and fidelity, that I acknowledge the pain which the church in America has experienced as the result of sexual abuse of minors," Benedict said.

"No words of mine could describe the pain and harm inflicted by such abuse. It is important that those who have suffered be given loving pastoral attention."
if my priest fucked me, the last thing id want is more 'loving'

Furtherman

04-17-2008, 01:39 PM

What did I tell ya? Fuck the pope, his funny hat and his red shoes!

He tried to quiet the kid touching yet there are thousands of people in stadium lining up to see this creep. They should all be ashamed of themselves. Then again, if there was an all powerful and knowing being who was wise and kind, he wouldn't stand for this. No, not these horrors upon his faithful!

Edit: That's TWICE he's tried to make the sexual abuse "just go away" since he's held the pope title. Pathetic.

Death Metal Moe

04-17-2008, 01:52 PM

The church is just as evil as the evil they preach against.

Epic fail.

I Am The Lord Your God

04-17-2008, 02:21 PM

Stay thy tongue, Furtherman, lest you burn in the fiery pits of Hades for all eternity!

The Lord Your God hath spoken.

My will be done.

mugby43

04-17-2008, 02:30 PM

killing and maiming and abusing in God's Holy name!!!

It is is pompous cover up that enrages me!

Bulldogcakes

04-17-2008, 02:59 PM

I saw a sign on the BQE this morning that read as follows

"POPE BENEDICT AT YANKEE STADIUM ON SUNDAY 4/20- USE MASS TRANSIT"

Mass transit?

ChrisTheCop

04-17-2008, 03:25 PM

I saw a sign on the BQE this morning that read as follows

"POPE BENEDICT AT YANKEE STADIUM ON SUNDAY 4/20- USE MASS TRANSIT"

Mass transit?

ya shoulda gone for the hitler youth joke.

Thomas Merton

04-17-2008, 04:29 PM

ya shoulda gone for the hitler youth joke.

Hold on. The Pope is celebrating mass on my favorite REAL spiritual holiday, 4-20?

At the most evil of places, Yankees stadium?

What the hell is going on?

NewYorkDragons80

04-17-2008, 06:16 PM

Edit: That's TWICE he's tried to make the sexual abuse "just go away" since he's held the pope title. Pathetic.
I can see how taking it head on could be construed as making it go away.

Devo37

04-17-2008, 06:21 PM

well, the pope is the devil's son, so let's not act too surprised.

all together now: "the pope. the pope. the pope is on fire! he don't need no water, let that heretic burn!"

Furtherman

04-17-2008, 06:32 PM

I can see how taking it head on could be construed as making it go away.

And a fine job he did at that. You! Molester! Be quiet. You! Molestees! Be quiet.

Now, everyone get on their knees.

NewYorkDragons80

04-17-2008, 07:26 PM

And a fine job he did at that. You! Molester! Be quiet. You! Molestees! Be quiet.

Now, everyone get on their knees.
Dude, he apologized for the debacle and said the Church fucked up in handling the whole thing. A day late and a dollar short? Probably. But at least recognize that he's moving in the right direction, however meaningful/meaningless that might be at this juncture.

Furtherman

04-17-2008, 07:32 PM

The church will never be a dollar short.

Bunny™

04-17-2008, 07:33 PM

The Pope is creepy.

FUNKMAN

04-17-2008, 09:16 PM

Dude, he apologized for the debacle and said the Church fucked up in handling the whole thing. A day late and a dollar short? Probably. But at least recognize that he's moving in the right direction, however meaningful/meaningless that might be at this juncture.

he may be personally sorry for the acts of others but don't kid yourself, he's doing all this for the almighty dollar. he wants to keep those donations coming... the Catholic Church is a corporation that tries to sell you " After-Life Insurance "

and tax the motherfuckers and any other religious organization. if they can put out 500 million for sex abuse suits then pay your fucking taxes

A.J.

04-18-2008, 04:35 AM

On the bright side, his visit brought a lot of free press for my alma mater.

http://publicaffairs.cua.edu//images/2008/Pope%20Week/DSC_0113.jpg

http://publicaffairs.cua.edu//images/2008/Pope%20Week/_CUA6628.jpg

Thebazile78

04-18-2008, 05:15 AM

ya shoulda gone for the hitler youth joke.

Which one? Cattle cars? Cyanide gas?

Personally, I stick to Star Wars allusions.

Hold on. The Pope is celebrating mass on my favorite REAL spiritual holiday, 4-20?

At the most evil of places, Yankees stadium?

What the hell is going on?

Armageddon.

BoondockSaint

04-18-2008, 05:24 AM

Hold on. The Pope is celebrating mass on my favorite REAL spiritual holiday, 4-20?

At the most evil of places, Yankees stadium?

What the hell is going on?

Isn't it perfect? The Nazi pope is celebrating mass on Hitler's birthday at Yankee Stadium. The plan is all coming together. muahahahahahaahahaha

ha

Furtherman

04-18-2008, 07:35 AM

he may be personally sorry for the acts of others but don't kid yourself, he's doing all this for the almighty dollar. he wants to keep those donations coming... the Catholic Church is a corporation that tries to sell you " After-Life Insurance "

and tax the motherfuckers and any other religious organization. if they can put out 500 million for sex abuse suits then pay your fucking taxes

Amen to that, brother.

TooLowBrow

04-18-2008, 08:37 AM

questions...

does the pope have to do everything protocol says? or is he actually in charge?

who's paying for all the expenses of this trip? i know that more cops have to work, is the city paying or does the church fork over some cash to help out?

Furtherman

04-18-2008, 09:24 AM

or does the church fork over some cash to help out?

:lol::lol::lol:

Unless he "frisks" one of the cops.

NewYorkDragons80

04-18-2008, 11:40 AM

The church will never be a dollar short.
Why not just say you want to shit on the Church? If you won't address the points I make and just want to bitch, why are you here?
he may be personally sorry for the acts of others but don't kid yourself, he's doing all this for the almighty dollar. he wants to keep those donations coming... the Catholic Church is a corporation that tries to sell you " After-Life Insurance "

Then your grievance has nothing to do with the Pope or sex abuse. You just don't like anybody asking for money.

dino_electropolis

04-18-2008, 12:02 PM

Yeah, you Catholics crack me up.

I invite you all to come over to the Greek Orthodox Church.....where the only molesting is of the inter-species type.
Its not that ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-d!

drjoek

04-18-2008, 01:36 PM

BoondockSaint

04-18-2008, 01:42 PM

dino_electropolis

04-18-2008, 01:43 PM

THE LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT IS DISPLAYED ON THIS WEBSITE IS APPALLING.
While there is well documented problems in the church as there is in any large organization. I find it personally offensive the vile posts that are being made, when the leader of the largest religion in the world is here on a Papal visit.
These type of posting offends me.

I agree.....christianity somehow became the "whipping boy" of unfaithful people. God forbid Mohammad is depicted as, well, in ANY form, but Jesus is ALWAYS being ridiculed in one way or another. When did it become ok to just yell "Jesus Christ" when someone is angry....really, what the fuck is that about. Now, i got a mouth like a sailor, but i make a conscious effort not to use his name in that way.....what really gets me is hearing a non-Christian use His name as a curse........

Some people who happen to align themselves with Christ unfortunately have done bad things, no doubt. But i dare any person to tell me of any other faith that has done MORE for humanity, by way of charity and mercy and forgiveness.

I'm with you boss.....u just gotta let these kinda posts go....turn the other cheek, as it were.

dino_electropolis

04-18-2008, 01:43 PM

Isn't Islam the biggest religion in the world now?

Islam aint a religion- its a joke.

That, of course, was a joke.

drjoek

04-18-2008, 01:54 PM

TooLowBrow

04-18-2008, 06:55 PM

I'm not trying to be sanctimonious its just that I can't understand how this type of stuff is ok in this PC world we live in. Not just on here its everywhere in the media. You could not make these kind of statement against other groups. It would not be tolerated. But some how its all in good fun. Thats just my feelings

we as catholics, we are laughing it off because its just words and they dont hurt. we can laugh at a joke, even if we are the butt of it.jesus said to forgive and love, so we do. should we get pissed off and hang some people? or demand censorship?!?

TooLowBrow

04-18-2008, 07:47 PM

DID YOU KNOW?

Five things you didn't know about Pope Benedict:

1. He has two cats, Chico and Joseph. One is a stray he found on the streets of Rome. He also has a dog, Igor. None of the pets live with him at the Vatican because pets are not allowed there.

2. His favorite meal is Bavarian potato ravioli with pancake strips. He also likes mozzarella, Orange Fanta soda and Bavarian Christmas cookies.

3. He is the youngest of three children. His father was a police officer. His sister worked as a housekeeper. His brother is a retired priest.

4. He has a pilot's license but not a driver's license. He likes to fly the papal helicopter to his summer home, Castel Gandolfo in Lazio, Italy.

5. He plays the piano. His favorite pieces of music are Mozart's Clarinet Quintet and Clarinet Concerto.:blink:

TooLowBrow

04-18-2008, 08:19 PM

have you ever started looking something up and the more you find the more questions you have? can someone smart please help me?
Pope Paul VI eliminated the gold cross and completely discontinued the custom of kissing the papal foot. Paul VI can be seen wearing red buckled shoes in photographs from his 1964 trip to Jerusalem. In 1969, Paul VI abolished buckles from all ecclesiastical shoes, which had been customarily required at the Papal Court and for prelates. He also discontinued the use of the indoor velvet papal slippers and the Paschal mozzetta and shoes. Paul VI wore plain red leather shoes throughout the rest of his pontificate. Pope John Paul I, who was pope for only 33 days, continued wearing the plain red leather shoes worn by Paul VI. Early in his pontificate Pope John Paul II wore red shoes; however he quickly adopted wearing ordinary brown shoes. Paul VI, John Paul I, and John Paul II were buried in the red leather papal shoes.
how can you be buried in shoes that another pope was buried in?

keithy_19

04-18-2008, 11:08 PM

have you ever started looking something up and the more you find the more questions you have? can someone smart please help me?

how can you be buried in shoes that another pope was buried in?

Maybe they just meant the same style? It was bad wording. Or maybe popes have foot fetishes, so as they get older they go to the tombs of the other popes and take off the shoes.

Or maybe they only wear the red shoes for a little bit and the article meant that they are buried, (said good bye too), while in the red shoes.

:huh:

keithy_19

04-18-2008, 11:28 PM

And I agree that some of these comments are very angry and with some justification.

But it comes off as more of a vendetta against God and Godliness, rather than a social commentary.

NewYorkDragons80

04-19-2008, 08:16 AM

And I agree that some of these comments are very angry and with some justification.
Absolutely. This thread became a real anger session, but it's not without a few legit points.

Furtherman

04-19-2008, 10:57 AM

Why not just say you want to shit on the Church? If you won't address the points I make and just want to bitch, why are you here?

Have I bitched? Pointing out the evil is bitching? The only point you made was this:

Dude, he apologized for the debacle and said the Church fucked up in handling the whole thing. A day late and a dollar short? Probably. But at least recognize that he's moving in the right direction, however meaningful/meaningless that might be at this juncture.

And you know what? Tell that to the THOUSANDS of people who were abused. Too late.

But i dare any person to tell me of any other faith that has done MORE for humanity, by way of charity and mercy and forgiveness.

The catholic church has killed more people than any other religion all in the name of power and greed. It's all on the record. Yes, they've wised up and been good for... maybe 100 - 200 years, with the exception of all the sexual and extortion abuse... but you look at the history of the church.... hooo boy... they made Hilter look like an altar boy.
So, even if they are helping now... they got about 1,000 years on pennance to make up. Lucky for humanity, the chuch will be extinct by then. As shitty as the world can be, people are getting smarter and relying on their inner strenghts instead of outer myths.

And I agree that some of these comments are very angry and with some justification.

But it comes off as more of a vendetta against God and Godliness, rather than a social commentary.

I haven't said anything against god here. I have no problem with anyone who is a believer. But to look up to the pope? He is a human being. All priests are. I was an altar boy... I worked in a rectory for almost 5 years... I learned first hand that there is NOTHING special nor seperate between a priest, a cop, a fireman, a salesman or a janitor. It's a big show with the great benefits of people paying for your room and lodge. It was a place for gays to find acceptance and hide in plain site. Not these days. And in educated countries, the priesthood will finally disappear. Preachers who are allowed to marry are the way to go - at least they're on the logical human nature level. The pope? He's a politician. And ask yourself this: if he were to run for an office, would he win? Hell no. Althought shitting on the church would be a brillant social commentary and event, I would not out of resepect. But you give me that funny hat...

dino_electropolis

04-19-2008, 12:54 PM

Have I bitched? Pointing out the evil is bitching? The only point you made was this:

And you know what? Tell that to the THOUSANDS of people who were abused. Too late.

The catholic church has killed more people than any other religion all in the name of power and greed. It's all on the record. Yes, they've wised up and been good for... maybe 100 - 200 years, with the exception of all the sexual and extortion abuse... but you look at the history of the church.... hooo boy... they made Hilter look like an altar boy.
So, even if they are helping now... they got about 1,000 years on pennance to make up. Lucky for humanity, the chuch will be extinct by then. As shitty as the world can be, people are getting smarter and relying on their inner strenghts instead of outer myths.

I haven't said anything against god here. I have no problem with anyone who is a believer. But to look up to the pope? He is a human being. All priests are. I was an altar boy... I worked in a rectory for almost 5 years... I learned first hand that there is NOTHING special nor seperate between a priest, a cop, a fireman, a salesman or a janitor. It's a big show with the great benefits of people paying for your room and lodge. It was a place for gays to find acceptance and hide in plain site. Not these days. And in educated countries, the priesthood will finally disappear. Preachers who are allowed to marry are the way to go - at least they're on the logical human nature level. The pope? He's a politician. And ask yourself this: if he were to run for an office, would he win? Hell no. Althought shitting on the church would be a brillant social commentary and event, I would not out of resepect. But you give me that funny hat...

Hey, Furtherman, if your gonna quote me, quote me.....dont misconstrue or color what i say for your own beliefs. I mentions the Christian faith, and you talk about the Catholic church....this may be a suprise to many of you, but they ARE NOT the same thing.
Second, your stats about Catholic deaths are not only unverified (just simply sayin their on the books dont make it so) but they are a bit misleading. Have people died, have people been killed in the name of Christ? Of course. Is it right? Not my place to say.

But what you conveniently overlook is the import of my statement which was that NO OTHER FAITH HAS DONE MORE GOOD FOR HUMANITY THAN CHRISTIANITY.
You want stats? Sorry, they dont generally keep stats for mercy, love, peace or charity.....but a couple human biengs dressed in robes touch some kids, and the whole faith gets tainted?

Hardly.

keithy_19

04-19-2008, 01:33 PM

.

I haven't said anything against god here. I have no problem with anyone who is a believer. But to look up to the pope? He is a human being. All priests are. I was an altar boy... I worked in a rectory for almost 5 years... I learned first hand that there is NOTHING special nor seperate between a priest, a cop, a fireman, a salesman or a janitor. It's a big show with the great benefits of people paying for your room and lodge. It was a place for gays to find acceptance and hide in plain site. Not these days. And in educated countries, the priesthood will finally disappear. Preachers who are allowed to marry are the way to go - at least they're on the logical human nature level. The pope? He's a politician. And ask yourself this: if he were to run for an office, would he win? Hell no. Althought shitting on the church would be a brillant social commentary and event, I would not out of resepect. But you give me that funny hat...

First of all, the hat is very comfortable.

And I know you weren't talking about God, but when certain statements are made it comes off as being very anti God. That's how I took it at least.

And yes, I agree that the pope is no clsoer to God than anyone else. One of the reasons I'm not a catholic is because I don't feel I need to go confess my sins to a priest and have him go and talk to god for me. I was always under the assumption that because of Jesus Christ the middle man was cut out of the equation.

Furtherman

04-19-2008, 01:55 PM

Have people died, have people been killed in the name of Christ? Of course. Is it right? Not my place to say.

.....but a couple human biengs dressed in robes touch some kids, and the whole faith gets tainted? .

C'mon... there is only one answer to that. Not your place to say. How unchristian!
Is it right to kill in the name of ANYONE? Please.

A couple!?

MadMatt

04-19-2008, 02:06 PM

First of all, the hat is very comfortable.

And I know you weren't talking about God, but when certain statements are made it comes off as being very anti God. That's how I took it at least.

And yes, I agree that the pope is no clsoer to God than anyone else. One of the reasons I'm not a catholic is because I don't feel I need to go confess my sins to a priest and have him go and talk to god for me. I was always under the assumption that because of Jesus Christ the middle man was cut out of the equation.

I don't think that your view of confession is quite right. It is more that the Priest serves as a "surrogate" for God in the confessional - You are actually making a confession to God, but the Priest is serving as his "temporal stand-in."

It is effectively an act of 'public' contrition, bringing your sins into the light in front of God because you are repentant. The Priest only serves as a representative; God is still the one who is listening and granting forgiveness.

dino_electropolis

04-19-2008, 03:56 PM

C'mon... there is only one answer to that. Not your place to say. How unchristian!
Is it right to kill in the name of ANYONE? Please.

A couple!?

I dont see how not passing judgment is UnChristian.....in fact, i find that to be one of the major tenets of the Faith.

But you easily ignored the rest of my post, so i guess i shouldnt hold my breath waiting for a response which actually touches on the point of my last post,

And btw- if it werent for the Bible, your opinion as to what is morally right and wrong (i.e. is it right to kill in the name of ANYONE?) would be nonexistent....it is the Bible- whether you admit it or not- which is directly responsible for what you deem right or wrong. It is that implementation of a moral code which has allowed our species to survive. PERIOD.
The church, the pope - manmade, fallable, no doubt....just be sure to separate the fallible people from the infallible purpose of the message.....

Bob Impact

04-19-2008, 04:03 PM

I dont see how not passing judgment is UnChristian.....in fact, i find that to be one of the major tenets of the Faith.

But you easily ignored the rest of my post, so i guess i shouldnt hold my breath waiting for a response which actually touches on the point of my last post,

And btw- if it werent for the Bible, your opinion as to what is morally right and wrong (i.e. is it right to kill in the name of ANYONE?) would be nonexistent....it is the Bible- whether you admit it or not- which is directly responsible for what you deem right or wrong. It is that implementation of a moral code which has allowed our species to survive. PERIOD.
The church, the pope - manmade, fallable, no doubt....just be sure to separate the fallible people from the infallible purpose of the message.....

Eh, I dunno, Who is John Galt?

keithy_19

04-19-2008, 04:07 PM

It is effectively an act of 'public' contrition, bringing your sins into the light in front of God because you are repentant. The Priest only serves as a representative; God is still the one who is listening and granting forgiveness.

I guess I just don't see why I have to tell them to someone else. If God is the one who forgives me of my sins, then I think I should talk right to him. Not to someone us. Idon't think there needs to be a represenative there because Jesus was the represenative and therefore my prayers go through him.

I guess the fact that if my thoughts are impure, yet don't affect the public, there doesn't ened to be a public act of contrition. It should be between me and God, and that's it.

TooLowBrow

04-19-2008, 04:12 PM

I guess I just don't see why I have to tell them to someone else. If God is the one who forgives me of my sins, then I think I should talk right to him. Not to someone us. Idon't think there needs to be a represenative there because Jesus was the represenative and therefore my prayers go through him.

I guess the fact that if my thoughts are impure, yet don't affect the public, there doesn't ened to be a public act of contrition. It should be between me and God, and that's it.

thats true, but sometimes its tough to hear god because our lives are so crazy, priests can offer advice and help us to really hear gods message. and sometimes we dont realize that we've sinned, so priests make sure to ask if we have been thinking about sex... with details. then god know whats been poppin' in yo life.

keithy_19

04-19-2008, 04:36 PM

. then god know whats been poppin' in yo life.

So he wouldn't know if I hadn't went and talked to a priest? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of an all knowing God?

sailor

04-19-2008, 04:40 PM

I guess I just don't see why I have to tell them to someone else. If God is the one who forgives me of my sins, then I think I should talk right to him. Not to someone us. Idon't think there needs to be a represenative there because Jesus was the represenative and therefore my prayers go through him.

I guess the fact that if my thoughts are impure, yet don't affect the public, there doesn't ened to be a public act of contrition. It should be between me and God, and that's it.

there's nothing wrong with not going to a priest for penance, it just means you're not following the catholic church. nothing wrong with either being a catholic or not.

keithy_19

04-19-2008, 04:50 PM

there's nothing wrong with not going to a priest for penance, it just means you're not following the catholic church. nothing wrong with either being a catholic or not.

Yes, which is why I'm not a catholic.I have respect for catholics though and the heads of their church. Don't let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.

TooLowBrow

04-19-2008, 09:15 PM

So he wouldn't know if I hadn't went and talked to a priest? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of an all knowing God?

god knows, he just doesnt care. why would he? but we're gods children, always saying, 'look at me, look at me'

keithy_19

04-19-2008, 10:46 PM

god knows, he just doesnt care. why would he? but we're gods children, always saying, 'look at me, look at me'

Well in that case, I'm going to go imagine my girl friend in a maids outfit pleasuring me while dusting my desk.

TooLowBrow

04-19-2008, 11:05 PM

Well in that case, I'm going to go imagine my girl friend in a maids outfit pleasuring me while dusting my desk.

you're forgiven

...want a candy bar?

Furtherman

04-20-2008, 08:18 AM

But you easily ignored the rest of my post, so i guess i shouldnt hold my breath waiting for a response which actually touches on the point of my last post,

And btw- if it werent for the Bible, your opinion as to what is morally right and wrong (i.e. is it right to kill in the name of ANYONE?) would be nonexistent....it is the Bible- whether you admit it or not- which is directly responsible for what you deem right or wrong. It is that implementation of a moral code which has allowed our species to survive. PERIOD.
...

No, I didn't... I addressed your point of christianity doing more good for humanity, but that's not what worries me: Holy shit dude... you're on the same wavelengh as those guys who think the Quran is the be all and and all. Yea, the Islamic Fundamentalists.

What about the billions of people who have NEVER read the bible or were taught about it who live perfectly normal, peaceful lives? What is directly responsible for that? And what about all those thousands of years before the book showed up? Our species survived just fine without it. Jesus tap dancin' chirst... directly responsible for what's right and wrong!? Are you kidding? That is scary stuff.

So he wouldn't know if I hadn't went and talked to a priest? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of an all knowing God?

There is no purpose.

dino_electropolis

04-20-2008, 08:39 AM

No, I didn't... I addressed your point of christianity doing more good for humanity, but that's not what worries me: Holy shit dude... you're on the same wavelengh as those guys who think the Quran is the be all and and all. Yea, the Islamic Fundamentalists.

What about the billions of people who have NEVER read the bible or were taught about it who live perfectly normal, peaceful lives? What is directly responsible for that? And what about all those thousands of years before the book showed up? Our species survived just fine without it. Jesus tap dancin' chirst... directly responsible for what's right and wrong!? Are you kidding? That is scary stuff.

There is no purpose.

Riiiiiiiiight.

As if the codification of the moral message of the bible has not helped man evolve socially. You reference billions of people who have never been touched by the bible. If your referring to people alive today, then your completely wrong. Whether or not you have ever read the bible, or know of its existence, you have been affected by the Billions of people who have, and who have grown from it. Things like:the Red Cross, Christian Children Fund, Salvation Army, etc...... One small, yet significant example, is the existence of American jurisprudence, and the fkn basis for what our Founding Fathers deemed to be right and wrong- thats right, the criminalization of murder, theft, and violence in general stem from the 10 Commandments. Deny it, b/c you will, but it dont make you right.
As for the Mayans or others who existed without Christ- yeah, they seem to be doing well today.....when you sacrifice so many virgins for a rainy season, your population will be effected, no doubt. But you seem to be the expert.....tell me about these Billions of people who live perfect happy lives....

And keep the tap dancing shit out your mouth....you dont need to respect me, but when you ridicule the name of a person who has had the most POSITIVE impact on this planet, (presumably because you were diddled by some priest) you undermine the integrity of anything you have to say.

Of course, now i should expect more Jesus bashing.......

ChrisBrown

04-20-2008, 09:20 AM

I was debating whether to jump into the fray and I'm sure I'll regret but I just wanted to agree with a point Furtherman made. There really are billions and billions of fully-functioning, perfectly happy, and moral people on the earth who don't only believe in the Bible, Old or New or even the Quran.

I grew up in a very conservative evangelical Christian family. I remember when I first made an atheist friend in college, it started a chain reaction that led me leave the church. I was so deeply programed to think without God and the Bible, people would rape, pillage, and sacrifice virgins to fertility gods. Meeting a good atheist led to other doubts that eventually made me not believe in God. I know it is hard to believe for people who belong to one of the monotheistic religions, but there is a world of Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, etc. who are good and live by moral codes very similar to Christianity's. The Bible is a perfectly adequate moral code but by no means is it unusual. Throughout history, there has been a long list of teachings (i.e. Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.) that basically teach the same thing that the Bible teaches - do one to others as you would have them to do you.

I know this is an emotional issue and I am not trying to bash Jesus, religion, the Pope, or anyone. I am the only one in my family that left the church. I still have a great relationship with all of them. I respect Christianity even though I don't believe that it is the only true religion.

TooLowBrow

04-20-2008, 10:03 AM

has there been any significant decrease in crime in nyc over the past couple of days?

scottinnj

04-20-2008, 10:10 AM

I blame the heathens and the atheists.

scottinnj

04-20-2008, 10:13 AM

....and tax the motherfuckers and any other religious organization.

No let's not.

FUNKMAN

04-20-2008, 02:34 PM

No let's not.

why not? i just found out they put out 2 Billion to settle sex abuse cases... this at face value doesn't seem right on so many levels, mainly nearly 10% of their employees are fucking little children, next is followers are paying them to do it

do they pay any real-estate taxes?

keithy_19

04-20-2008, 02:37 PM

why not? i just found out they put out 2 Billion to settle sex abuse cases... this at face value doesn't seem right on so many levels, mainly nearly 10% of their employees are fucking little children, next is followers are paying them to do it

do they pay any real-estate taxes?

When they put out that money, where did it come from?

I know that the church that I attend on occasion is fully run based on donations. Taxing the church would cause it to cease to exsist.

FUNKMAN

04-20-2008, 02:47 PM

TooLowBrow

04-20-2008, 02:48 PM

When they put out that money, where did it come from?

I know that the church that I attend on occasion is fully run based on donations. Taxing the church would cause it to cease to exsist.

you think the church just keeps all its money in those baskets they pass out?
they dont invest it?
and, when the church get's like, a renovation, dont members of the congregation offer the church 'discounts' for services?

keithy_19

04-20-2008, 03:43 PM

you think the church just keeps all its money in those baskets they pass out?
they dont invest it?
and, when the church get's like, a renovation, dont members of the congregation offer the church 'discounts' for services?

Not at all. Having some one very close to me in charge of the money aspect of a church, I know that money is largely based on donations. People in the congregation who run a business may cut deals with the church on certain services.

keithy_19

04-20-2008, 03:44 PM

why would it cease to exist, how much money or wealth does this organization have? did they have to borrow the 2 billion, how many more billions in cash and assets do they possess?

My statement wasn't reflecting the catholic churches use of money. But you can't pick and chose which churches you'll tax. It's all or none. I do know that very grassroots churches would have trouble to stay afloat and functioning.

scottinnj

04-20-2008, 05:00 PM

I do know that very grassroots churches would have trouble to stay afloat and functioning.

keithy_19 gets it. Scooby Snack for you!

Gvac

04-20-2008, 05:02 PM

Every single network and cable station covered the Pope's mass at Yankee Stadium today. Did NBC REALLY have to hide the Red Wings/Predators playoff game on NBC44 cable? I didn't even know that channel existed until today.

scottinnj

04-20-2008, 05:05 PM

why would it cease to exist, how much money or wealth does this organization have? did they have to borrow the 2 billion, how many more billions in cash and assets do they possess?

Probably not, it was probably paid for mainly by insurance policies. I find it hard to see 2 billion just laying around, even with the Vatican and the Church.

They settled fast, which means they got access to cash. You can't raise that dough selling bobblehead dolls on Ebay. They tapped into an insurance policy. Had to.

Hottub

04-20-2008, 05:07 PM

During the Yankee game on YES today (face Mikey), they actually did a split screen for a little while of the pope in Yankee Stadium whle they were playing in Camden Yards. And Michael Kay was gushing all kinds of message of peace and love bullshit instead of calling the game.

scottinnj

04-20-2008, 05:09 PM

During the Yankee game on YES today.......

"Oh my goodness gracious! The Pope is in Steinbrenner's Box!"

Furtherman

04-21-2008, 06:58 AM

Riiiiiiiiight.

As if the codification of the moral message of the bible has not helped man evolve socially. You reference billions of people who have never been touched by the bible. If your referring to people alive today, then your completely wrong. Whether or not you have ever read the bible, or know of its existence, you have been affected by the Billions of people who have, and who have grown from it. Things like:the Red Cross, Christian Children Fund, Salvation Army, etc...... One small, yet significant example, is the existence of American jurisprudence, and the fkn basis for what our Founding Fathers deemed to be right and wrong- thats right, the criminalization of murder, theft, and violence in general stem from the 10 Commandments. Deny it, b/c you will, but it dont make you right.
As for the Mayans or others who existed without Christ- yeah, they seem to be doing well today.....when you sacrifice so many virgins for a rainy season, your population will be effected, no doubt. But you seem to be the expert.....tell me about these Billions of people who live perfect happy lives....

And keep the tap dancing shit out your mouth....you dont need to respect me, but when you ridicule the name of a person who has had the most POSITIVE impact on this planet, (presumably because you were diddled by some priest) you undermine the integrity of anything you have to say.
Of course, now i should expect more Jesus bashing.......

You might want to learn about the Mayan culture. They were around long before AND after the supposed jesus lived. A rainy season? Many other cultures rose and fell with their own gods... as will the cultures of today.

You might want to brush up on American History as well. Separation of church and state. Thomas Jefferson came up with that phrase. "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," In other words, do what you will, but don't force it on others.

When church leaders rallied (bugged the hell out of them) congress with their flocks to set aside public funds for churches, James Madison himself said: "How a regulation so unjust in itself, so foreign to the authority of Congress, and so hurtful to the sale of public land, and smelling so strongly of an antiquated bigotry, could have received the countenance of a committee is truly a matter of astonishment."
I can go on... it's well known what the founding fathers thought of religion.

Dino, you believe in god, and that is fine... but to feel that your god is better than the other gods or your book is better that the other books... that's a bit on the egotistical side, don't you think? After all, you said "Have people died, have people been killed in the name of Christ? Of course. Is it right? Not my place to say."

That's giving god the "you're either with me or against me" human trait. Not very divine is it?

Furtherman

04-21-2008, 07:00 AM

"Oh my goodness gracious! The Pope is in Steinbrenner's Box!"

:lol:

FUNKMAN

04-21-2008, 07:04 AM

They tapped into an insurance policy. Had to.

must have been that Afterlife Insurance Policy :laugh:

Furtherman

04-21-2008, 07:16 AM

The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Priests and Deacons, by Karen Terry et al., prepared by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice (Washington DC: USCCB, 2004) (http://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_27_JohnJay/index.html)

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_27_JohnJay/images/T_6_1_01.jpg

*These figures do not include the highly publicized settlement figure of $85 million in the Archdiocese of Boston. No Diocesan Profile contained a data point with this specific total compensation amount.

**The total cost represents rows 1,3, 5, and 7 because insurance coverage is already included in these figures. The insurance figures are placed in parentheses to indicate that they are not additive, as they are part of the total compensation and treatment.

And for the record, I was never "diddled" by a priest.

In fact, most of them were very nice, but just regular guys. Even the three who were caught, years later, with kiddie porn on their computers. I saw one priest hit a classmate (payment? a glowing recommendation and a "grant" to go to one of the best high schools in the city - I wish he hit me!) Another one wasn't allowed to "graduate" the 8th grade because the monsignor never saw him in church. And the nuns? Even worse.

But there were good ones. Ones who actually chose the life and did good for what they believed. Good men, but men all the same.

foodcourtdruide

04-21-2008, 07:32 AM

Riiiiiiiiight.

As if the codification of the moral message of the bible has not helped man evolve socially. You reference billions of people who have never been touched by the bible. If your referring to people alive today, then your completely wrong. Whether or not you have ever read the bible, or know of its existence, you have been affected by the Billions of people who have, and who have grown from it. Things like:the Red Cross, Christian Children Fund, Salvation Army, etc...... One small, yet significant example, is the existence of American jurisprudence, and the fkn basis for what our Founding Fathers deemed to be right and wrong- thats right, the criminalization of murder, theft, and violence in general stem from the 10 Commandments. Deny it, b/c you will, but it dont make you right.
As for the Mayans or others who existed without Christ- yeah, they seem to be doing well today.....when you sacrifice so many virgins for a rainy season, your population will be effected, no doubt. But you seem to be the expert.....tell me about these Billions of people who live perfect happy lives....

And keep the tap dancing shit out your mouth....you dont need to respect me, but when you ridicule the name of a person who has had the most POSITIVE impact on this planet, (presumably because you were diddled by some priest) you undermine the integrity of anything you have to say.

Of course, now i should expect more Jesus bashing.......

You're really making a huge leap here.

You think organizations LIKE the American Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc wouldn't exist if not for the bible? Maybe those people just wanted to do good and used religion as a rallying cry? I agree having those religions possibly helped organization, but I don't think ONLY religion tells people to help one another, and if it is ONLY religion, then we are fucked.

I had this discussion with a friend once, who told me if I didn't raise my children religious they would lack morality. I wasn't raised religious and I had no problem understanding right and wrong.

dino_electropolis

04-21-2008, 08:03 AM

Furtherman, i just want to thank you for keeping this discussion civil, and not devolving into a hate spewed name calling tirade that happens all to often on boards. Respect.

As for the first amendment, i feel that my education in law school exposed me to it enough to be able to base a learned opinion. I think (as well as others) that the separation of church and state clause has been misconstrued from its initial intent. I think the intent was that the State not "Establish" a national religion, and in the alternative, not prevent others from freely practicing their own. Meaning - there wont be Church of America (like the Church of England)....of course, it is argued that supporting a church (via tax laws, credits, etc) is in effect Establishing that Religion....i personally find the connection tenuous at best. If the Founding fathers were so Anti-religion, they would not have mentioned GOD in the Constitution/Dec of Indp.

Of course i feel that my god is better than others- otherwise, i would take on that other, better god as my own. But that never really was my point - although i may have muddied my point with my emotions.

What i basically was getting at was that its very sad and disturbing to see how the acts of a few (relatively speaking) members of an organization justify mockery of the organization itself. By organization, i dont just mean the Catholic church, but all churches.
Say what you will about the divinity of Jesus. The fact is, the man DID exist, and what he preached centered around LOVE and Peace.....there is no Kill the Infidel Jew, or kill anyone for that matter. With that being said, why is the man continually mocked?

He preached love.

Furtherman

04-21-2008, 10:45 AM

No problem Dino... I too can let emotions get the best of what I can write sometimes.

But I think we can agree on one thing. Love is a good thing to preach.

keithy_19

04-21-2008, 11:49 AM

No problem Dino... I too can let emotions get the best of what I can write sometimes.

But I think we can agree on one thing. Love is a good thing to preach.

Yes it is. Which is why it's important to remembe the core of the teachings of a religion, rather than the "man made" factor of it. With sex abuse in the catholic church, you know that this was never in Jesus' teachings.

But considering we've all agreed to diasgree but agree on love, how about some bro grabs around the room?:king:

Thomas Merton

04-21-2008, 01:38 PM

Dino/Further/et al

Great debate, we all know its tough not to get emotional when discussing religion and politics. Both subjects play a big part in what defines us, tells others who we are.

I went to a Catholic grade school(yes I still have the ruler knuckle scars, ha ha) and college, and even have a Catholic monk as my board name, but yes, I took a swipe at the pope earlier in the thread...

Why? I think we need to laugh about the pedophilia crisis in the church(I read 4% Further) and in every other walk of life like, for instance, Boy Scouts; just like we need to laugh about other tough subjects that make us ponder the paradox that is life, our own mortality and the death march we are each on, only not knowing when or how.

Lenny Bruce said comedy is pain+time

I also mocked his red Prada shoes

And c'mon, the pope at Yankee stadium on 4-20 on a full moon at the start of Passover didnt make you put your fingers to your chin and say hmmmm and then think 'I did too many shrooms'? :wink:

Furtherman

11-27-2009, 08:21 AM

More disgusting news.

I hope these investigations go worldwide. You'll find it in every catholic hub of the world.

DUBLIN - Investigations into child sex abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland should be extended nationwide, a leading campaigner said Friday a day after a damning study condemned a decades-long cover-up.

The call came as one Irish newspaper branded the abuse of children in the care of the Catholic Church, which was covered up for more than 30 years by senior clergy, as "satanic," blasting the "rampant evil".

The good news is that this happened in Ireland, which is probably only second to South America in blind faith to these monsters. The unnecessary power this organization has is appaling. You don't need a building to walk into and kneel to do, or feel, good in the world.

No wonder why people bow their head to pray. They can't see when they're being fooled.

But commentators voiced outrage at the findings, which come just six months after a landmark report detailed widespread sexual, physical and emotional abuse of children in Catholic-run institutions dating back to the 1930s.

The Examiner newspaper, describing the abuse as "satanic", said Thursday's report uncovered a "litany of horror" that could "only be described as an active evil, a pervading darkness that poisoned lives."

"Some years ago, the history of the sexual and physical abuse of children was described as the Irish Holocaust. At that time, that description seemed extreme. Sadly, time has justified it," it added.

The Irish Times said that the "corruption of power and the fundamentally rotten nature of relations between the Catholic Church and the state has been laid bare" in Dublin by the damning report.

A "studied silence by Vatican authorities and by the Apostolic Nuncio" (papal representative) to requests for additional information "will feed suspicion that the church remains fixated on protecting its tattered image."

sailor

11-27-2009, 08:28 AM

why do you constantly hate religion? i don't think anyone is defending the actions you're pointing out, but you seem to have a pervasive hatred that goes way beyond that.

Death Metal Moe

11-27-2009, 08:28 AM

I was reading something about this story on the BBC and they gave a quick glimpse of a few parts of the report.

The one that stuck with me the most was a part that said a woman had gone to the police to report that her child had been abuse. Then instead of starting and investigation the cops when back to the church to have them handle it.

Gotta love that blind faith.

Death Metal Moe

11-27-2009, 08:29 AM

why do you constantly hate religion? i don't think anyone is defending the actions you're pointing out, but you seem to have a pervasive hatred that goes way beyond that.

There's just so much to hate. There's not enough hours in the day to properly hate religion.

Furtherman

11-27-2009, 08:32 AM

why do you constantly hate religion? i don't think anyone is defending the actions you're pointing out, but you seem to have a pervasive hatred that goes way beyond that.

I hate any organization that preaches good but practices evil. That's a broad stroke, but people always turned a blind eye to the church out of fear and misguided respect.

This is big news that I hope gives the most loyal catholic pause before they drop money into the basket.

sailor

11-27-2009, 08:33 AM

Gotta love that blind faith.

clapton is god

underdog

11-27-2009, 08:37 AM

This is big news that I hope gives the most loyal catholic pause before they drop money into the basket.

It won't.

sailor

11-27-2009, 08:40 AM

I hate any organization that preaches good but practices evil. That's a broad stroke, but people always turned a blind eye to the church out of fear and misguided respect.

This is big news that I hope gives the most loyal catholic pause before they drop money into the basket.

i'd say you're quite off if you think the net of the church is evil, not good. i also don't think the respect is misguided, but i won't be able to convince you.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2009, 08:47 AM

Everyone owes Sinead O'Connor an apology.

O'Connor's career took a political shift — especially in the United States — on 3 October 1992, when she appeared on Saturday Night Live as a musical guest. She was singing an a cappella version of Bob Marley's "War," which she intended as a protest over the sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church, by changing the lyric "racism" to "child abuse." She then presented a photo of Pope John Paul II to the camera while singing the word "evil," after which she tore the photo into pieces, said "Fight the real enemy," and threw the pieces towards the camera.

A.J.

11-27-2009, 08:50 AM

More disgusting news.

I hope these investigations go worldwide. You'll find it in every catholic hub of the world.

Yep. Something similar happened in Australia. The Prime Minister recently offered an apology to the "forgotten Australians". (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2009/11/2009111622329482184.html)

Many of the thousands of the "forgotten Australians" had been promised a better life in Australia, but instead suffered sexual abuse and violence in state and church-care homes and other institutions.

A.J.

11-27-2009, 08:52 AM

Everyone owes Sinead O'Connor an apology.

"Sorry Mr. Clean"

http://thumbnails.hulu.com/5/758/13806_512x288_manicured__hMwabUQnAUSEFzST1EyexA.jp g

KingGeno

11-27-2009, 08:52 AM

Furtherman

11-27-2009, 08:53 AM

i'd say you're quite off if you think the net of the church is evil, not good. i also don't think the respect is misguided, but i won't be able to convince you.

Again, I admitted that was a broad stroke.

My point is you don't need the church to do good in the world.

And yes, everyone does owe Sinead an apology. The outrage against her was a perfect example of the misguided respect. Respect in the fact that people feel just because a man is a man "of god", he can do no wrong.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2009, 08:55 AM

Again, I admitted that was a broad stroke.

My point is you don't need the church to do good in the world.

And yes, everyone does owe Sinead an apology. The outrage against her was a perfect example of the misguided respect. Respect in the fact that people feel just because a man is a man "of god", he can do no wrong.

But everyone loved it next week when Joe Pesci joked about hitting her. HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH-LARIOUS.

Then you had the extra delicious layer of irony of people booing and throwing things at her for expressing her politics through song...at a Bob Dylan tribute concert. Oh, those silly-billys.

sailor

11-27-2009, 09:04 AM

i don't see how anyone owes her an apology. it's like someone burning a flag or burning someone in effigy. even when you have a righteous grievance i don't think that's the route to take to get people on your side.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2009, 09:28 AM

Shut up, sailor.

underdog

11-27-2009, 09:34 AM

sailor

11-27-2009, 10:03 AM

She tore up a picture. Should we be cursing and burning all shredders now?

exactly.

Furtherman

11-27-2009, 10:35 AM

NewYorkDragons80

11-27-2009, 12:55 PM

She tore up a picture. Should we be cursing and burning all shredders now?

The intent was more than the simple act of shredding a piece of paper. If someone burns a flag, it would be inaccurate to say they're retiring it without adhering to protocol.

underdog

11-27-2009, 03:23 PM

i'd say you're quite off if you think the net of the church is evil, not good.

You've convinced me. Religious people are doing good work. (http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/11/25/Fundamentalists_Tied_to_Ugandas_Antigay_Law/)

sailor

11-27-2009, 03:43 PM

You've convinced me. Religious people are doing good work. (http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/11/25/Fundamentalists_Tied_to_Ugandas_Antigay_Law/)

obviously, that's bad. who here would deny that? on the other hand, that's not the catholic church or any church from what i can tell. and you could just as easily pull up thousands of things the church does for charity (for one example) in many aspects.

is any group perfect? of course not. your type of arguments can just as easily be used against any major political party (for example). there are plenty of bad or evil or misguided people in the world. i completely stand by my belief that the church is easily net good. it's not even close.

underdog

11-27-2009, 04:37 PM

obviously, that's bad. who here would deny that? on the other hand, that's not the catholic church or any church from what i can tell. and you could just as easily pull up thousands of things the church does for charity (for one example) in many aspects.

You could also easily pull up all the misinformation the Catholic Church hands out in Africa that helps spread HIV and AIDS.

If the church would teach about birth control and safe sex, instead of teaching that spilling your seed is a sin, they could save thousands of lives. Instead, they stand by preaching morality while more and more people are infected and die.

the Catholic Church's first motive is to control their people and their image. Doing good comes in a distant second or third on their list of priorities.

sailor

11-27-2009, 04:42 PM

so, if they think something is a sin they shouldn't teach people that?

underdog

11-27-2009, 05:14 PM

so, if they think something is a sin they shouldn't teach people that?

They're killing people in the process.

sailor

11-27-2009, 07:10 PM

That's just silly. They're pushing abstinence. They're not saying to have sex without condoms, which is how the HIV would get spread. If someone is having premarital sex without condoms they're still violating church teachings. A condom doesn't make it any worse at that point. And any other group can distribute and teach condom use, why should that responsibility fall on people opposed to it?

underdog

11-27-2009, 07:29 PM

underdog

11-27-2009, 07:38 PM

sailor

11-27-2009, 07:40 PM

Death Metal Moe

11-27-2009, 09:04 PM

The church cares more about keeping their own power than actually helping people? Is this even news?

keithy_19

11-28-2009, 04:05 AM

They're killing people in the process.

The Catholic church is bad ass.

sailor

11-28-2009, 04:29 AM

The church cares more about keeping their own power than actually helping people? Is this even news?

if it were true it would be.

Furtherman

03-25-2010, 07:58 AM

Told you he was a shmuck, and that's using a kind word.

Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html?hp)

Top Vatican officials — including the future Pope Benedict XVI — did not defrock a priest who molested as many as 200 deaf boys, even though several American bishops repeatedly warned them that failure to act on the matter could embarrass the church, according to church files newly unearthed as part of a lawsuit.

The internal correspondence from bishops in Wisconsin directly to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future pope, shows that while church officials tussled over whether the priest should be dismissed, their highest priority was protecting the church from scandal.

The documents emerge as Pope Benedict is facing other accusations that he and direct subordinates often did not alert civilian authorities or discipline priests involved in sexual abuse when he served as an archbishop in Germany and as the Vatican’s chief doctrinal enforcer.

The church is a business that needs to have a watchdog group assigned to its internal affairs - just like any other business.

What a sick fuck. Raping deaf boys. That fucker could sneak up on them.

Misteriosa

03-25-2010, 08:21 AM

i have this pic of the pope at my desk...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7789/wickedvo9.jpg

the nuns who still work here love me for it. i guess they didnt look too closely. :o

Furtherman

03-25-2010, 08:35 AM

i have this pic of the pope at my desk...

http://www.evangelicalright.com/1_22_042105_pope_benedict.jpg

the nuns who still work here love me for it. i guess they didnt look too closely. :o

The picture doesn't show! His evil powers reach far!

Misteriosa

03-25-2010, 08:37 AM

The picture doesn't show! His evil powers reach far!

really? it shows on my screen. his trickery skills are strong... i'll find another.

edit: i changed the OP, does it work now?

Furtherman

03-25-2010, 08:45 AM

really? it shows on my screen. his trickery skills are strong... i'll find another.

edit: i changed the OP, does it work now?

HAHA!! Yep, perfect.

Death Metal Moe

03-25-2010, 08:46 AM

Wow, protecting their reputation over protecting their members? Who woulda thunk it.

This stuff needs to be reported but it's just no surprised anymore. The only real surprise is people still leave their children with anyone associated with these pieces of shit.

Misteriosa

03-25-2010, 08:57 AM

here is the pic at my desk...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/pope.jpg

Misteriosa

03-25-2010, 09:06 AM

Not true. And as I said they're also teaching them it's wrong to have premarital sex with/without condoms. People are taking half their message and discarding the other half.

And for that "the family" thing, I was thinking about it and I'd bet money the church is way more opposed to the death penalty than homosexuality.

if i remember correctly, the church doesnt even allow condom use between married couples, as any form of contraception is against god. ill try to find the article where i read it, but i think married women are the fastest growing population in terms of HIV infection. :down:

i cannot abide.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/reiko7176/47C2A16D083716A6E8A16A2BC992B.jpg

Death Metal Moe

03-25-2010, 09:10 AM

if i remember correctly, the church doesnt even allow condom use between married couples, as any form of contraception is against god. ill try to find the article where i read it, but i think married women are the fastest growing population in terms of HIV infection. :down:

i cannot abide.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/reiko7176/47C2A16D083716A6E8A16A2BC992B.jpg

That's what I always understood. Unless the church changed it's message AGAIN to try and combat it's own ineptness and inability to connect with people

opie's twisted balls

03-25-2010, 01:21 PM

What a sick fuck. Raping deaf boys. That fucker could sneak up on them.
Sick and not very smart. Should be raping the mute boys so they can't scream as their supple little hineys are being violated.

But seriously....

I have mixed feelings about the catholic church. On one hand there are a couple of priests who were wonderful sources of comfort to my family during difficult times. IMO that was fundamentally more about who they were as people and not because they were men of the cloth. That said, they were called to a vocation and I respect them for that. On the other hand the church is filled with more then its share of sanctimonious assholes who should be shot with a ball of their own holier than thou shit.

Bob Impact

03-25-2010, 01:23 PM

Told you he was a shmuck, and that's using a kind word.

Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html?hp)

The church is a business that needs to have a watchdog group assigned to its internal affairs - just like any other business.

What a sick fuck. Raping deaf boys. That fucker could sneak up on them.

As a half deaf American I am offended and outraged and demand a Furtherman apology tour.

Also, cake.

Hottub

03-25-2010, 01:37 PM

As a half deaf American I am offended and outraged and demand a Furtherman apology tour.

Also, cake.

If you were a half deaf Canadian, you would have my sympathies.
That's 2 disabilities.

opie's twisted balls

03-25-2010, 01:40 PM

If you were a half deaf Canadian, you would have my sympathies.
That's 2 disabilities.
We also can't see worth shit

http://media.canada.com/ec39df83-fe4a-4b86-8cf9-8fbd0bc59e03/bubbles.jpg

Bob Impact

03-25-2010, 01:41 PM

If you were a half deaf Canadian, you would have my sympathies.
That's 2 disabilities.

Sure, try to deflect the inevitable lawsuit.

Furtherman

03-25-2010, 01:54 PM

As a half deaf American I am offended and outraged and demand a Furtherman apology tour.

Also, cake.

I AM a half deaf American, so there. But I do love cake.

Bob Impact

03-25-2010, 01:57 PM

I AM a half deaf American, so there. But I do love cake.

Dammit, left ear, right ear or equally deaf in both? Cause i'm shopping for a working rightie.

Furtherman

03-25-2010, 01:59 PM

Dammit, left ear, right ear or equally deaf in both? Cause i'm shopping for a working rightie.

Left, but I got me one of those miracle ear thingys to help out.

Bob Impact

03-25-2010, 02:14 PM

Left, but I got me one of those miracle ear thingys to help out.

Balls, mine's nerve damage, no miracles for me.

Furtherman

03-25-2010, 02:16 PM

Balls, mine's nerve damage, no miracles for me.

My nerves were killed off as well... but with the little hearing I have left, the piece does help.

Bob Impact

03-25-2010, 02:19 PM

My nerves were killed off as well... but with the little hearing I have left, the piece does help.

Hmm, I guess I should talk to the doc about it again, they've wanted me to use a tinnitus masker for a while and they said something about how it should be able to "slightly" help with the hearing, wonder if the hearing aid is baked in.

sailor

03-28-2010, 07:24 PM

if i remember correctly, the church doesnt even allow condom use between married couples, as any form of contraception is against god. ill try to find the article where i read it, but i think married women are the fastest growing population in terms of HIV infection. :down:

i cannot abide.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/reiko7176/47C2A16D083716A6E8A16A2BC992B.jpg

yes, that's their stance. also, growth percentage is a bit misleading if it's a group (like married women) that has a comparatively small infection rate (if there were two infected women and now there are 4, there has been a 100% increase...run for the hills!).

Furtherman

09-27-2011, 12:22 PM

WRESTLINGFAN

01-04-2012, 07:49 AM

Bishop resigns because he is hetero

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-catholic-bishop-resigns-says-2-kids-145729758.html

A.J.

01-04-2012, 08:05 AM

Same thing happened to my priest when I was a kid (well, he left because he wanted to marry). So the church lost a great guy like Father Joe, but the kid touchers were allowed to stay and prosper.

sailor

01-04-2012, 08:08 AM

You're a silly person. (not AJ)

underdog

01-04-2012, 08:28 AM

You're a silly person. (not AJ)

AJ is pretty silly, too.

sailor

01-04-2012, 08:34 AM

AJ is pretty silly, too.

Bond.

hanso

01-08-2012, 06:42 PM

http://i.imgur.com/h15b8.jpg

Furtherman

01-09-2012, 06:03 AM

http://i.imgur.com/h15b8.jpg

Those in glass houses...?

A.J.

01-09-2012, 06:17 AM

http://i.imgur.com/h15b8.jpg

He looks like Martin Brody at the end of Jaws.

KnoxHarrington

01-09-2012, 06:55 AM

Same thing happened to my priest when I was a kid (well, he left because he wanted to marry). So the church lost a great guy like Father Joe, but the kid touchers were allowed to stay and prosper.

Well, duh, obviously a far better role model for a kid is a twisted, repressed pedophile as opposed to some guy happily married to an adult.

PapaBear

01-09-2012, 08:20 PM

He looks like Martin Brody at the end of Jaws.
:thumbup::lol:

WRESTLINGFAN

03-25-2012, 03:32 AM

Hopefully Benedict wont be taken out by our fast and the furious weapons

http://news.yahoo.com/cheering-crowds-shadow-scandal-pope-mexico-034203774.html

hanso

03-25-2012, 07:56 AM

http://i.imgur.com/h15b8.jpg

His Mexico earthquake visit. Pat Robertson didn't pray hard enough.

A.J.

03-26-2012, 03:36 AM

He's visiting Cuba too. Maybe he can do me and Ronnie B. a solid and bring back some Cohibas.

WRESTLINGFAN

03-26-2012, 03:53 AM

I'll take some cohibas and some hot looking Cuban ladies too

I want one of those '50s era Chevys they have as well

Furtherman

03-26-2012, 07:27 AM

http://linapps.s3.amazonaws.com/linapps/photomojo/lintvnews.com/photos/2012/03/g2327-pope-benedict-visits-mexico/48170-pope-benedict-xvi-0e99c.jpg

Aye yi yi... I am the pedo bandito!

A.J.

03-26-2012, 07:29 AM

Hit the switches on that Popemobile. Make that shit bounce!

WRESTLINGFAN

03-26-2012, 07:31 AM

Viva El Papa Viva la Raza

hanso

04-08-2012, 05:06 PM

Keynote from Easter speech has the word "groping " a poor choice but the pope spoke in 65 languages he's a smart dude.

WRESTLINGFAN

06-06-2012, 01:12 PM

Vatican butler in hot water

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/05/us-vatican-butler-idUSBRE8540VU20120605

cougarjake13

06-06-2012, 04:32 PM

Vatican butler in hot water

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/05/us-vatican-butler-idUSBRE8540VU20120605

Did he do something with travolta?

Crossweird

06-07-2012, 01:56 AM

Vatican butler in hot water

But only on his forehead, shoulders, and middle of his chest.

WRESTLINGFAN

06-07-2012, 09:12 AM

Espana to church

PAY UP!!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/amid-economic-crisis-spain-ponders-taxing-catholic-church-092208656.html

Furtherman

06-07-2012, 09:19 AM

Espana to church

PAY UP!!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/amid-economic-crisis-spain-ponders-taxing-catholic-church-092208656.html

Do it. Tax this sying superstitution while you can.

WRESTLINGFAN

06-07-2012, 09:27 AM

Do it. Tax this sying superstitution while you can.

Should be done here. Churches, Mosques, Synagogues every house of worship even those storefront Iglesias de Pentecostals

A.J.

06-07-2012, 09:43 AM

Should be done here. Churches, Mosques, Synagogues every house of worship even those storefront Iglesias de Pentecostals

Don't forget the Scientologists and their "religion".

Furtherman

06-18-2012, 09:21 AM

Pope To Irish: Child Abuse By Clergy A 'Mystery' That Shook Faith (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/17/pope-to-irish-child-abuse_n_1603923.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1&pLid=170634&utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=1287290,b=facebook)

Are you fucking kidding me?

Why did Pope Benedict know of the abuse of hundreds of deaf Wisconsin boys by a priest yet the Vatican office he ran stopped a process to remove the man from the priesthood. I don't know! It's a mystery!!

I told you he was a shmuck.

Holy shit.

A.J.

06-18-2012, 09:25 AM

The Pope would make a great President of Penn State.

hanso

06-18-2012, 03:46 PM

WRESTLINGFAN

06-18-2012, 06:18 PM

But he does wear some kick ass kicks.

Hes also rockin some serious bling

keithy_19

06-18-2012, 06:34 PM

Keynote from Easter speech has the word "groping " a poor choice but the pope spoke in 65 languages he's a smart dude.

I like my popes to have a sense of humor.

Crossweird

06-18-2012, 08:47 PM

I like my popes to have a sense of humor.

He should walk into a bar with a horse and a rabbi.

keithy_19

06-18-2012, 08:48 PM

He should walk into a bar with a horse and a rabbi.

This joke fails because most bars don't have kid's meals.

Crossweird

06-19-2012, 04:48 AM

This joke fails because most bars don't have kid's meals.

You're not going to the right bars.

hanso

06-22-2012, 09:08 PM

Catholic official found guilty of covering up sexual abuse by priests

A Philadelphia monsignor became Friday the highest-ranking US church official to be convicted over a child sex cover-up, as he was was found guilty of endangerment.

WRESTLINGFAN

06-22-2012, 09:10 PM

Is PA ground zero for molesting boys?

A.J.

06-23-2012, 10:22 AM

Is PA ground zero for molesting boys?

You can't have a pederast without P and A.

Recyclerz

08-30-2012, 12:31 PM

Think the Catholic Church has finally learned its lesson on kid touching? Umm, not so much... (http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/08/how-youths-seduce-priests.html)

At this point I'd vote for a Tea Partier if they promised to prosecute the Church hierarchy under the RICO statutes for this ongoing conspiracy to facilitate child rape.

:furious:

jennysmurf

08-30-2012, 12:37 PM

WRESTLINGFAN

09-03-2012, 08:26 AM

The Church is 200 years out of date

http://news.yahoo.com/final-interview-cardinal-says-church-200-years-date-190009537.html

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

A.J.

09-03-2012, 02:56 PM

Pity. The guy actually made sense.

Jujubees2

09-03-2012, 02:59 PM

The Church is 200 years out of date

http://news.yahoo.com/final-interview-cardinal-says-church-200-years-date-190009537.html

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Would have been a decent Pope

A.J.

09-29-2012, 08:10 AM

Vatican newspaper calls fragment referring to Jesus' wife 'a fake' (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/28/vatican-newspaper-calls-fragment-referring-to-jesus-wife-a-fake/?hpt=hp_t3)

But the Shroud of Turin is real, right?

hanso

09-29-2012, 09:39 AM

I heard this also just from a news blurb

WRESTLINGFAN

11-27-2012, 06:40 AM

New gig for one of the former Popemobiles

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2012/11/26/Popemobile-available-for-rent/UPI-79681353966720/

hanso

11-27-2012, 08:14 AM

Would like to see this pope with a shop pic him in a bugler mask on eyes he got those coon eyes.

Furtherman

12-12-2012, 11:11 AM

Pope Benedict Begins Tweeting! (http://gawker.com/5967797/pope-benedict-begins-tweeting-everyone-immediately-unfollows-him-because-he-tweets-toodamnmuch)

@Pontifex: Do you regret allowing priests to continue molesting children in the 70's and 80's as children when you were Cardinal and knew what was happening? What about the instructions you have given them not to tell the police but just t...he Vatican and no one else? Ever hear from the Archdiocese of Milwaukee again? I know this is over 140 letters, but I'm sure having access to miracles and all that, you'll get the message.

hanso

12-12-2012, 08:58 PM

A.J.

12-21-2012, 08:14 AM

I love The Onion:

Trusted Sistine Chapel Janitor Convicted Of Sexually Abusing Last 4 Popes (http://www.theonion.com/articles/trusted-sistine-chapel-janitor-convicted-of-sexual,27934/)

WRESTLINGFAN

01-06-2013, 07:22 AM

Just another day at the rectory

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/priest-gets-stuck-in-handcuffs-rev-tom-donovan-911-gag_n_2411344.html

Jujubees2

01-06-2013, 08:16 AM

hanso

01-07-2013, 11:36 AM

And if you plan on visiting his Popeness, remember it's cash only now!

Vatican Is 'Cash Only' As Bank Of Italy Blocks Electronic Payments Over Money Laundering Concerns (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/03/its-cash-only-vatican-money-laundering_n_2403006.html)

Vist? WF should live there .. no taxes

I saw something on this that first john paul pope think it was who died right after he was pope. he wanted to make changes like this.. .

Judge Smails

01-07-2013, 01:25 PM

I saw something on this that first john paul pope think it was who died right after he was pope. he wanted to make changes like this.. .

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/idk-girl.gif

PapaBear

01-07-2013, 04:14 PM

Vist? WF should live there .. no taxes

I saw something on this that first john paul pope think it was who died right after he was pope. he wanted to make changes like this.. .

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/idk-girl.gif
Hanslation... I saw somewhere that John Paul I (the one that was killed in The Godfather series) wanted to make similar reforms.

hanso

01-07-2013, 09:20 PM

It wasn't just in a movie it was something that was real. Read about it here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I_conspiracy_theories

PapaBear

01-09-2013, 03:35 PM

It wasn't just in a movie it was something that was real
Really? You don't say! :wallbash:

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 03:18 AM

Pope to resign 2/28.

CountryBob

02-11-2013, 04:54 AM

Not being catholic - franky scallop I don't give a clam. But as far as history goes this is a biggie and is very intriguing to me

hanso

02-11-2013, 06:46 AM

The hit is on

sailor

02-11-2013, 07:01 AM

The hit is on

Oh-wo-ho, oh-wo-ho

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 08:29 AM

The rumors are false. Hillary doesn't want to be pope

hanso

02-11-2013, 09:01 AM

Sandusky

Jujubees2

02-11-2013, 09:19 AM

Sandusky

Overqualified

OGC

02-11-2013, 09:44 AM

Pope to resign 2/28.

Since they always claim that the pope is chosen by god, how is it possible for one to say I don't feel like being the pope anymore.

The spin will be interesting.

sailor

02-11-2013, 09:51 AM

Since they always claim that the pope is chosen by god, how is it possible for one to say I don't feel like being the pope anymore.

The spin will be interesting.

I don't believe they claim that.

DarkHippie

02-11-2013, 11:48 AM

I didn't even know that you could quit Popedom. How do you stop being God's Chosen? Didn't Jonah try this and ended up shit out of a whale?

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 11:59 AM

So who's the favored Cardinal to be the successor?

I wouldn't be surprised if someone from the 3rd world gets elected. The Church membership has dwindled in Europe. Those massive cathedrals don't have the masses of people in their congregation anymore

The church is still dominant in Latin America, getting more parishoners in Sub Saharan Africa and remains a major factor in the Philippines.

Jujubees2

02-11-2013, 12:09 PM

So who's the favored Cardinal to be the successor?

Would have been this guy if he didn't just die

http://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/stan-musial.jpg?w=466

Jujubees2

02-11-2013, 12:10 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if someone from the 3rd world gets elected. The Church membership has dwindled in Europe. Those massive cathedrals don't have the masses of people in their congregation anymore.

Who are we kidding here. It'll be another old white guy.

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 12:11 PM

Would have been this guy if he didn't just die

http://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/stan-musial.jpg?w=466

How about Tony LaRussa? He's alive

sailor

02-11-2013, 12:48 PM

Who are we kidding here. It'll be another old white guy.

Favorites are apparently two Africans and a Canadian.

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 01:38 PM

What name will Gretzky take if he's selected?

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 03:58 PM

Today is 84 years that Italy allowed the Vatican to become an independent nation

keithy_19

02-11-2013, 04:42 PM

What name will Gretzky take if he's selected?

The Great One.

cougarjake13

02-11-2013, 04:51 PM

Great One the first .

fixed

Snoogans

02-11-2013, 05:07 PM

the biggest racket on earth. Fuck him. He is probably being forced out for touching a kid

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 05:12 PM

Does the pope get a gold watch as part of his severance/retirement perk?

Kevin

02-11-2013, 05:30 PM

So who is gunna be the next Don, err I mean Pope?

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 05:35 PM

So who is gunna be the next Don, err I mean Pope?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7FI4giyV92g/T1dUnZ-iwvI/AAAAAAAACEA/rFAjeG6Wkx8/s1600/don-johnson-miami-vice.jpg

WRESTLINGFAN

02-11-2013, 05:51 PM

Gods reaction of the news.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/531694_10151509055497650_1741469706_n.jpg

Chigworthy

02-11-2013, 06:05 PM

As someone raised devoid of religion and within the youngest part of the planet, it always surprises me why this shit is so important. From a historical point of view, I completely understand the significance of the Catholic Church, but on a different level, it all seems like a boring historical science-fiction soap opera.

cougarjake13

02-11-2013, 06:17 PM

the biggest racket on earth. Fuck him. He is probably being forced out for touching a kid

quite possible

but it also may be for letting the others skate by for touching

Kevin

02-11-2013, 06:25 PM

Favorites are apparently two Africans and a Canadian.

Rooney rule for popes..

There will be a black KKK leader before there is a black pope...

razorboy

02-11-2013, 06:27 PM

There will be a black KKK leader before there is a black pope...

Clayton Bigsby.

hanso

02-11-2013, 09:40 PM

Favorites are apparently two Africans and a Canadian.

Would the African pope be from the same ones promoting the death sentence for homosexulatity?

Snoogans

02-11-2013, 09:44 PM

So who is gunna be the next Don, err I mean Pope?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/r95a3p8Os-w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

definitely this guy

Crossweird

02-11-2013, 11:02 PM

Favorites are apparently two Africans and a Canadian.

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/200H/i/2012/187/5/8/lakers___it_takes_three_by_flarekage-d569kdf.jpg

sailor

02-12-2013, 02:02 AM

Would the African pope be from the same ones promoting the death sentence for homosexulatity?

No, they're definitely against it, but nothing loony like that.

A.J.

02-12-2013, 04:33 AM

Resigning Pope No Longer Has Strength To Lead Church Backward (http://www.theonion.com/articles/resigning-pope-no-longer-has-strength-to-lead-chur,31248/)

WRESTLINGFAN

02-12-2013, 11:48 AM

He doesn't get to keep his title of Pope. He goes back to being a Cardinal.

pennington

02-12-2013, 01:03 PM

Gods reaction of the news.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/531694_10151509055497650_1741469706_n.jpg

So, is that a good sign or bad?

spoon

02-12-2013, 01:30 PM

what's the biggest joke? the catholic church, their leadership, The Vatican being in existence and how it came about, or the Paterno family not just shutting the fuck up and bowing out of the public eye?

Answer is E, all of the above

WRESTLINGFAN

02-12-2013, 07:14 PM

So if the Mayan calendar hype wasn't enough to bring the end of the world , according to Malachy , the next pope will take the name of Petrus (Peter ) and that will be the last pope, thus bringing the final days to judgement.

Kevin

02-12-2013, 07:18 PM

cougarjake13

02-12-2013, 07:26 PM

so tell the fucking guy dont pick peter and were all good

spoon

02-12-2013, 07:40 PM

Will he bang his autobiographer before that?

( 5yr old boy)

ha, autobiographer

:wallbash:

Kevin

02-12-2013, 08:15 PM

ha, autobiographer

:wallbash:

Well...

People have ghost written them...

But no that's not what i meant.

.......

:unsure:

Biographer...

spoon

02-12-2013, 08:22 PM

nice save attempt at least

but yes, the church is quite a fucking mess

that much we can agree on...but is any religion not a mess and just a cluster fuck since day one?

jennysmurf

02-12-2013, 08:51 PM

nice save attempt at least

but yes, the church is quite a fucking mess

that much we can agree on...but is any religion not a mess and just a cluster fuck since day one?

Not the First United Reformed Church of Papabear.

spoon

02-12-2013, 08:56 PM

Snoogans and I once started the First Church of Giraffe...they are the high almighty...and Shaun worships anything that gets you high.

jennysmurf

02-12-2013, 08:58 PM

Snoogans and I once started the First Church of Giraffe...they are the high almighty...and Shaun worships anything that gets you high.

Those Asians will worship anything.

spoon

02-12-2013, 08:59 PM

ha :lol:

Kevin

02-12-2013, 10:09 PM

Anything that man wrote is utterly garbage because we all know it was written for money and power.
I believe in something of a God. But this god delivered on his promise of free will and told us to bugger of until we get back to his relm. Then I dunno what happens...

hanso

02-13-2013, 05:00 AM

Gods reaction of the news.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/531694_10151509055497650_1741469706_n.jpg

Just 2 hours after he quit

hanso

02-13-2013, 05:01 AM

A.J.

02-13-2013, 05:04 AM

A.J.

02-13-2013, 05:05 AM

I want Pope Bobo baby!

WRESTLINGFAN

02-13-2013, 05:06 AM

preach on

Pope Kevin the 1st has a good ring to it

Snoogans

02-13-2013, 08:53 AM

Snoogans and I once started the First Church of Giraffe...they are the high almighty...and Shaun worships anything that gets you high.

you started that. I didnt give a shit til I found out there are 1 foot tall giraffes that rich russian dudes buy

Opulence......I has it

CurseoftheBambi

02-13-2013, 09:49 AM

http://i.imgur.com/pPlh9Ex.jpg

hanso

02-13-2013, 10:07 AM

Did you see this today? Some kinda gay going down. I'm glad I didn't get the free holiday cam working.

deliciousV

02-16-2013, 02:18 PM

Best Pope story ever, true or not, it's damned entertaining

http://gaizy.hubpages.com/hub/Mystery-Files-The-Pregnant-Pope

A.J.

02-16-2013, 03:14 PM

Best Pope story ever, true or not, it's damned entertaining

http://gaizy.hubpages.com/hub/Mystery-Files-The-Pregnant-Pope

"The Ball-Feeling Chair" explains a lot of the Church's problems.

deliciousV

02-16-2013, 03:19 PM

"The Ball-Feeling Chair" explains a lot of the Church's problems.

:lol::lol:

Judge Smails

02-16-2013, 06:39 PM

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/498/222/242.gif

WRESTLINGFAN

02-18-2013, 08:49 AM

Dionne wants a nun as pope.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-best-choice-for-pope-a-nun/2013/02/15/83c8be2e-76c6-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html

Pseudo intellectualism is the new intellectualism. He mentions in the article that the pope is also the Bishop of Rome so right there a woman is disqualified. Also he mentions women have a bond with Mary, however Catholicism is still Christianity even though Mary plays an important role.

A woman can't perform masses, weddings, funerals etc until the Vatican if and or when gives approval that women can be priests and hold higher ranks in the hierarchy.

spoon

02-18-2013, 08:23 PM