The Dark Knight

[KingGeno]

They could go the angle of Jigsaw from the Saw movies for Riddler, and make the Penguin the new mob king and weapon dealer. Can't even imagine or think how they would make these characters look not silly, with their looks and attire.

The movie has to be a big deal to beat out Dark Knight though....

[TonyStark]

The movie has to be a big deal to beat out Dark Knight though....
Definitely true, but sequels build on each other in terms of money. Lord of the rings, pirates of the caribbean, etc.. More fans means better opening some of them almost feed themselves. Either way, the success of this movie has financed 2 total box office bombs if you want to work the numbers.

[EliSnow]

They could go the angle of Jigsaw from the Saw movies for Riddler, and make the Penguin the new mob king and weapon dealer. Can't even imagine or think how they would make these characters look not silly, with their looks and attire.


I think that their appearance and attire could be made more acceptable to this universe fairly easily. Both the Scarecrow and Joker had their appearance modified from how they have appeared previously to fit within this Batman incarnation, but still recognizable.

The Penguin doesn't necessarily have to look as Penguinish as in previously incarnations or so obsessed with Penguins. The Riddler could look more like he does in comics now (and in BTAS), then the suit with all the question marks.

I'd start off with this look as the starting point, and then do variations from there:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/RiddlerGA.JPG

[FunkyDrummer]

Joker Busted (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0728082joker1.html)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0728082joker1.jpg

[Doctor Manhattan]

Joker Busted (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0728082joker1.html)

The theater got off light, Joker usually kills people.

[TonyStark]

I couldn't imagine liking a movie that much that I'd want to dress up like a character from it and do things that that character would do..

[Drunky McBetidont]

I couldn't imagine liking a movie that much that I'd want to dress up like a character from it and do things that that character would do..


it works for me (where is the salt shaker???)

http://www.waubuh.com/fear_and_loathing_in_las_vegas.jpg

[JPMNICK]

4 weeks in a row that it was #1 at the box office, which is pretty impressive for a summer film

[TooLowBrow]

4 weeks in a row that it was #1 at the box office, which is pretty impressive for a summer film

still, this thread only has just over 500 posts. the 'titanic' thread has close to 1000

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I dont know enough Batman to be able to think of another good villain for the third movie. They really ought to relax up on the use of more than 1 villain per movie. Spiderman 3 was shit because he had 3 villains (and who the fuck would ever use The Sandman???) ... same with the other batman movies that have sucked a fat one. They've already used up all the ones I liked.

I can't imagine Man-Bat would be all that cool. Killer Croc would be lame. Who else? Penguin? Fuck that fatty.

[TooLowBrow]

I can't imagine Man-Bat would be all that cool. Killer Croc would be lame. Who else? Penguin? Fuck that fatty.

i still say to follow the knightfall story line.
first, batman has all the psychos locked up.
he knows his shit and the city is his.
along shows up, Bane.
an immigrant, raised in the worst of prisions.
bioengineered to be super strong, with armor protected organs.
he watched the bat.
his enemy.
from afar.
he sees his weakness is his unrelenting nature.
so he frees arkham.
(hollywood gets its many villians required in a third film)
(scarecrow from 1)
(twoface from 2)
(any new ones they want)
batman wears himself out.
seeks out help lest he fail
(not robin!)
he finds Azreal, jean paul baptist.
he fights bane and loses.
back broken.
tim drake helps him recover as...
jean paul as batman goes nuts as a vigilante.
batman recovers.
beats bane.
subdues jean paul.
end.
the next movie is that he has all of arkham to go after.

[Gmann]

Joker Busted (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0728082joker1.html)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0728082joker1.jpg



k.d. Lang noooooooooooooooooo

[Tenbatsuzen]

Robin's not going to be in this. Bale and Nolan went on record for this. BUT, Raimi also said he'd never do Venom.

does anyone think that Rachel's death opens the door for Catwoman in the next one?

[cougarjake13]

Robin's not going to be in this. Bale and Nolan went on record for this. BUT, Raimi also said he'd never do Venom.

does anyone think that Rachel's death opens the door for Catwoman in the next one?

absolutely

[HBox]

I think they already made the perfect Riddler movie. It was called Die Hard with a Vengeance.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think they already made the perfect Riddler movie. It was called Die Hard with a Vengeance.

oooh, Jeremy Irons is delightfully creepy.

[spadanko]

Robin's not going to be in this. Bale and Nolan went on record for this. BUT, Raimi also said he'd never do Venom.

does anyone think that Rachel's death opens the door for Catwoman in the next one?


i have heard those rumors
also
in the comics does Rachel beocme catwoman? because i heard maggie gyllenhal could end up playing her

[King Imp]

Okay, I just saw this movie yesterday and I have a question that I didn't understand.
I'll put in a spoiler tag just in case there are others who haven't seen it yet as well.

What was the deal with Scarecrow in this movie? The way I understood it, those fake Batmans were vigilantes that were trying to clean up the streets as well and from what I gathered Scarecrow was working with them in that scene. So, I ask again, what was the deal with that?

[JustJon]

i have heard those rumors
also
in the comics does Rachel beocme catwoman? because i heard maggie gyllenhal could end up playing her

Rachel isn't in the comics, but there's rumors of Angelina Jolie being talk to about playing Selina Kyle aka Catwoman

[Columbus]

Rachel isn't in the comics, but there's rumors of Angelina Jolie being talk to about playing Selina Kyle aka Catwoman

Honestly Why would they have her play Cat Woman? Why go with the huge star. Its a batman movie and if done right it will sell its self. We do not need the biggest stars playing in these movies.

[Furtherman]

Honestly Why would they have her play Cat Woman?

I'd imagine it has something to do with her looking awesome in leather.

[Columbus]

I'd imagine it has something to do with her looking awesome in leather.

Oh Well...................Yea never mind I get it now. I was looking and thinking about the actual chacter not leaving with a boner. LOl

[cougarjake13]

Okay, I just saw this movie yesterday and I have a question that I didn't understand.
I'll put in a spoiler tag just in case there are others who haven't seen it yet as well.

What was the deal with Scarecrow in this movie? The way I understood it, those fake Batmans were vigilantes that were trying to clean up the streets as well and from what I gathered Scarecrow was working with them in that scene. So, I ask again, what was the deal with that?



yeh i was wondering about that

guess they wanted him to stick around for some reason

[Gmann]

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[scottinnj]

Okay, I just saw this movie yesterday and I have a question that I didn't understand.
I'll put in a spoiler tag just in case there are others who haven't seen it yet as well.

What was the deal with Scarecrow in this movie? The way I understood it, those fake Batmans were vigilantes that were trying to clean up the streets as well and from what I gathered Scarecrow was working with them in that scene. So, I ask again, what was the deal with that?

No. Scarecrow was not, here's the deal:

Scarecrow was making a drug deal, and Batman not only had to fight the Scarecrow and his minions, he also had to stop the vigilantes from trying to be like him-he didn't want them to be hurt. That is why he wants to quit being Batman later after he watches the Joker kill the vigilante he talked to during the Scarecrow bust.

[scottinnj]

Joker Busted (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0728082joker1.html)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0728082joker1.jpg

He must have gotten the makeup from his grandmom.

I hope the cop that arrested him is a R&F fan: just keep referring to him as "faildozer" on the way down to booking.


"Hey faildozer, did you like the movie, or were you disappointed in it?"


"Hey faildozer, where did you get the makeup?"


"Hey faildozer, you can have a phone call. What's your mommy's number?"

[TooLowBrow]

Hush is essentially a cooler Bane.
He'd be interesting to hint at in the 3rd movie... as well as adding Dick Grayson in.

Although Hush is a newer villain so I doubt they will add him in because he probably doesnt have the same pull as the classic villains. However, it goes without saying that Hush is probably the greatest villain created in the 90s and is worth considering.

Other stories worth adapting:
No Man's Land
and variations on Knightfall... i.e. the police turning to someone to hunt down the bat for them.

And at least, hint at the presence of Superman in metropolis in the next one. please.

[Dougie Brootal]

Hush is essentially a cooler Bane.
He'd be interesting to hint at in the 3rd movie... as well as adding Dick Grayson in.

Although Hush is a newer villain so I doubt they will add him in because he probably doesnt have the same pull as the classic villains. However, it goes without saying that Hush is probably the greatest villain created in the 90s and is worth considering.

Other stories worth adapting:
No Man's Land
and variations on Knightfall... i.e. the police turning to someone to hunt down the bat for them.

And at least, hint at the presence of Superman in metropolis in the next one. please.

im glad youre not writing the 3rd movie!:help:

[J.Clints]

Just as a Side not The most enjoyable music I can listen to when I am on the Computer for a long time is The Dark Knight Soundtrack. It is great.:thumbup:

[spadanko]

yes it's fake, but pretty awesome


http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/08/14/riddler-poster.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Hush is essentially a cooler Bane.
He'd be interesting to hint at in the 3rd movie... as well as adding Dick Grayson in.

Although Hush is a newer villain so I doubt they will add him in because he probably doesnt have the same pull as the classic villains. However, it goes without saying that Hush is probably the greatest villain created in the 90s and is worth considering.

Other stories worth adapting:
No Man's Land
and variations on Knightfall... i.e. the police turning to someone to hunt down the bat for them.

And at least, hint at the presence of Superman in metropolis in the next one. please.


well there was that poster of the the batman/superman logos in the background of i am legend in the opening scenes but they prob wont use bale and routh

[RingWraith]

well there was that poster of the the batman/superman logos in the background of i am legend in the opening scenes but they prob wont use bale and routh

So do you think that the "World's Finest" (Batman/Superman) movie will ever be made?

One can hope. But only if done right though.

[CruelCircus]

Anyone notice that not ONCE during any scene involving Commissioner Gordon's family that they said Barbara's name? I was waiting for it when Two-Face was asking Gordon which family member of his was most important, and for Barbara's name to be dropped. That would have garnered some applause. Barbara Gordon is Commissioner Gordon's daughter, and eventually becomes Batgirl.

I finally saw the movie (IMAX) last night and decided to catch up on the thread.

No one else seemed to catch this, but they did indeed use the name Barbara, but for Gordon's wife. When the two cops go to the door to tell her that Gordon is dead, Ramirez starts by saying "Barbara..." but then the wife begins to cry and Ramirez trails off.

[EliSnow]

I finally saw the movie (IMAX) last night and decided to catch up on the thread.

No one else seemed to catch this, but they did indeed use the name Barbara, but for Gordon's wife. When the two cops go to the door to tell her that Gordon is dead, Ramirez starts by saying "Barbara..." but then the wife begins to cry and Ramirez trails off.

I'm not sure about pre-Crisis DC, but in Batman: Year One and afterwards, DC established that Gordon's first wife was named Barbara and was the father of Jim Jr.

They later divorced.

[Yosammity]

Joker Busted (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0728082joker1.html)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0728082joker1.jpg

I'm glad to see that the Jewish kid from the Wonder Years is doing something with his life. And all this time I thought he was Marilyn Manson...

[booster11373]

I'm not sure about pre-Crisis DC, but in Batman: Year One and afterwards, DC established that Gordon's first wife was named Barbara and was the father of Jim Jr.

They later divorced.


Meanwhile over in All Star Batman

Frank Miller has made Gordans wife a drunk

[badorties]

Why do I keep reading people comparing this flick to Heat?

TDK is good, but it's in nowhere near the same realm as a film like Heat. Hell, I don't even see how they're similar.

perfect comparison, i thought both were a bit-heavy handed and a little too long

i finally saw it last night, and i tried to keep all the reviews (and hype) in perspective, but the movie just didn't blow me away

batman begins was great, the sequel seemed maybe too dark, too serious and way too taken with itself

i didn't care for dent, the movie might've been tighter/stronger with out the dent storyline -- but i realize i might be in the minority in this)

[Whiskeyportal]

perfect comparison, i thought both were a bit-heavy handed and a little too long

i finally saw it last night, and i tried to keep all the reviews (and hype) in perspective, but the movie just didn't blow me away

batman begins was great, the sequel seemed maybe too dark, too serious and way too taken with itself

i didn't care for dent, the movie might've been tighter/stronger with out the dent storyline -- but i realize i might be in the minority in this)

I agree. I just finished watching it and it didn't really do anything for me. Definitely not the movie of the year.

[ChrisTheCop]

I just saw this, and I wanna thank everyone who said it sucked for giving me lowered expectations. I thought it was enjoyable; maybe just a bit too long, and certainly not as good as Batman Begins. But all things considered, I liked it.

I was mad at Hollywood for killing Lt Gordon. :glurps:
This seems like a set up to an even better movie.



AND I saw the trailer for the next movie I'll see in theater; Quantum of Solace!
I'm a little scared that it'll be similar to Dark Knight in that it cant live up to it's predecessor,
But I'll be there for it.


Why do I keep reading people comparing this flick to Heat?

TDK is good, but it's in nowhere near the same realm as a film like Heat. Hell, I don't even see how they're similar.

No idea. BUT I saw a poster for an upcoming Deniro/Pacino film called Righteous Kill out next month.

[JPMNICK]

No idea. BUT I saw a poster for an upcoming Deniro/Pacino film called Righteous Kill out next month.

What did you think of the trailer? I saw it as well, and I am not sure how I fell. It looked OK, but I know both of them have been in awful movies lately.

[ChrisTheCop]

What did you think of the trailer? I saw it as well, and I am not sure how I fell. It looked OK, but I know both of them have been in awful movies lately.

They didnt show the trailer.
I actually only saw the poster in the lobby,
and what I thought was, "Man, theyve both gotten old"

[cougarjake13]

I was mad at Hollywood for killing Lt Gordon. :glurps:
This seems like a set up to an even better movie.



.


you did see the part where he came back right ??

[ChrisTheCop]

What?? HE DID????

You and Badorties must think I dont pay attention or somethin.

Yeah, I saw it...just sayin, as it happened, I was pissed. In da moment.

[cougarjake13]

What?? HE DID????

You and Badorties must think I dont pay attention or somethin.

Yeah, I saw it...just sayin, as it happened, I was pissed. In da moment.

yeah i had a feeling thats where you went

i did the same thing

[badorties]

What?? HE DID????

You and Badorties must think I dont pay attention or somethin.

Yeah, I saw it...just sayin, as it happened, I was pissed. In da moment.

it's that boston avatar ... it makes you think someone might need a little more help

you see, he cut his finger and didn't feel anything

[ChrisTheCop]

Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[badorties]

Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but then he jumped off the building ...

[ChrisTheCop]

but then he jumped off the building ...

and why did he have a British accent again?

[Patient zer0]

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[lleeder]

not long enough :thumbdown:

[Sue_Bender]

Classy.

[brettmojo]

At least they improved on the Batman voice.

[scottinnj]

Batman must have sprayed his funny repellant before he entered the room.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Anyone else think The Joker had a Stewart Smalley sound to him?

[IamFogHat]

I finally saw it at the beach last week (I waited cause I promised my sister I'd wait to see it with her) and holy fucking shit. This movie is so good somehow cum rocketed out of my asshole.
I think my favorite Joker moment, for those who will relate, was When he was blowing up the hospital outside, in a dress, basically doing a vaudville routine to himself. It was such an amazing display of his psychopathy it was truly inspired. I loved it.

[Judge Smails]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cher 'to play Catwoman' in next Batman film (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2612613/Cher-to-play-Catwoman-in-next-Batman-film.html)


The 62-year-old singer and actress is reported to be in talks to play Catwoman opposite Christian Bale in the third Batman film from British director Christopher Nolan.

The Oscar-winner will join a cast that includes Johnny Depp as The Riddler as she plays the whip-carrying burglar. The character has also been played by Michelle Pfeiffer and Halle Berry.

A studio executive said: "Cher is Nolan's first choice to play Catwoman. He wants to her to portray her like a vamp in her twilight years.

[EliSnow]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cher 'to play Catwoman' in next Batman film (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2612613/Cher-to-play-Catwoman-in-next-Batman-film.html)

Damn, that sucks.

BTW, Smails I have some land in Florida that I think you would love to own. It's going relatively cheap but it's going to be worth a lot of money.

[Furtherman]

Cher 'to play Catwoman' in next Batman film (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2612613/Cher-to-play-Catwoman-in-next-Batman-film.html)

Highly suspect.

[JPMNICK]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cher 'to play Catwoman' in next Batman film (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2612613/Cher-to-play-Catwoman-in-next-Batman-film.html)

never going to happen. I am sure her people are putting this out

[Judge Smails]

never going to happen. I am sure her people are putting this out

And playing The Penguin: Walt Tenor

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/stuck_on_you/_group_photos/greg_kinnear2.jpg

[ChrisTheCop]

And playing The Penguin: Walt Tenor

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/stuck_on_you/_group_photos/greg_kinnear2.jpg

hahaha. I was trying to come up with a joke involving him/them.
all i could come up with were unfunny two-face references.

[KingGeno]

Some somewhat great Fan Art for the "sequel", Riddler and Harley Quinn:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/08/21/check-this-out-more-dark-knight-sequel-fan-art-harley-quinn/

Harley Quinn
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/208/e/f/Batman_3_Poster___Harley_Quinn_by_joshwmc.jpg
http://www.firstshowing.net/img/joshwmc-darkknight-art-04.jpg

[SpicyMcHaggis]

What would you call the third movie? The Dark Knight Returns? You can't because everyone will think you're doing the Frank Miller story which as cool as it would be cannot be done within the continuity of these movies. What have been other popular Batman titles that don't have Batman in it?

[JPMNICK]

maybe they want cher so they have another major celeb in the movie die before the release but after filming

[cougarjake13]

harley looks good


but who do they have as riddler ??

[KingGeno]

but who do they have as riddler ??

Another british actor: Mr. Who himself, David Tennant


He has been pretty vocal about wanting to be a villian in a Batman movie. I think it would be genius, as his facial expressions and acting in Dr. Who and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire was fantastic.

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/flickfilos/art/tennantriddler.jpg

[SpicyMcHaggis]

You realize ALL of this is just speculation. Warner Brothers is just counting their money and waiting for Nolan to go, "Okay, let's make the third act." The thing is TDK made enough money for them to do it patiently.

[spadanko]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/08/dark-knight-exclusive-michael-caine-says-johnny-depp-is-the-riddler-philip-seymour-hoffman-is-the-penguin/

Depp as Riddler, Hoffman as Penguin confirmed by Michael Caine

[JPMNICK]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/08/dark-knight-exclusive-michael-caine-says-johnny-depp-is-the-riddler-philip-seymour-hoffman-is-the-penguin/

Depp as Riddler, Hoffman as Penguin confirmed by Michael Caine

Depp as Riddler is a great one

[KingGeno]

That's some tits casting right there, if totally 100% true.

[reillyluck]

if Depp is the Riddler... :wub:

[cougarjake13]

i'd love to see depp as riddler

not sure bout hoffmann as penguin

[ursassygurl]

seen the movie on IMAX,TWO THUMBS UP!!!..Nice movie..i must say heath's performance is so brilliant..i bet he will get an award for this if not a nomination..:)

[Slumbag]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/08/dark-knight-exclusive-michael-caine-says-johnny-depp-is-the-riddler-philip-seymour-hoffman-is-the-penguin/

Depp as Riddler, Hoffman as Penguin confirmed by Michael Caine

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/09/dark-knight-update-philip-seymour-hoffman-responds-to-casting-rumor-i-dont-know-if-id-be-a-good-penguin/

Yesterday, we reported that “Dark Knight” castmember Michael Caine claimed that as far as he knew, the villains for the next “Batman” film had been cast with Johnny Depp landing the role of The Riddler, and Philip Seymour Hoffman playing The Penguin. Today at the Toronto Film Festival, we went right to the source and asked Hoffman directly if he indeed had been cast as The Penguin.

“No one has talked to me about it ever — never,” replied Hoffman. “It happened, like, five years ago, too. It was a rumor back then and it’s still a rumor. [laughs] It’s just in the press. It’s funny.”

Sooooo..................

[razorboy]

i'd love to see depp as riddler

not sure bout hoffmann as penguin

Hoffman has routinely been fantastic, even in crap movies. While it may not seem like the most obvious choice, I would roll with it, and expect him to own. God knows I never expected to find anything to enjoy about MI:III.

[Misteriosa]

here is something i thought was funny :happy:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5411/1218833359717zo1.jpg

[cougarjake13]

thats funny

[TooLowBrow]

When the Joker is arrested, the police do everything they can to identify him-- except wiping off his makeup.

can someone answer this?

[brettmojo]

can someone answer this?
It was mostly off anyway when they brought him in. If there wasn't any match with the fingerprints there wouldn't be a match with any mugshot either.

[TooLowBrow]

It was mostly off anyway when they brought him in. If there wasn't any match with the fingerprints there wouldn't be a match with any mugshot either.

but dont they usually photograph criminals? for future reference?

[Dougie Brootal]

it wasn't in the script

[Contra]

Maybe they just didn't think of it. I mean for godssake they need a guy in a mask and cape to do their jobs for them!

[TooLowBrow]

i think it wouldve been cool if the joker had some joker obsessed cops get him past the washing/delousing indoctrination. then he could kill them anyway. it wouldve shown that while batman has enough pull to get an interogation, the joker has influence in high places too, mostly by greedy sadists

[Doctor Manhattan]

When the Joker is arrested, the police do everything they can to identify him-- except wiping off his makeup.can someone answer this?

Because it's a comic book movie.

[scottinnj]

Eddie Murphy is to play "The Riddler" in the next Batman Movie. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece)

It gets worse, everyone.


Execs have also signed up rising Transformers star SHIA LABEOUF, 22, to play Robin.

Holy Movie Franchise Destroyer, Batman! They're bringing Robin back to fuck it all up....AGAIN!

Anyone wanna make a bet there will be a fourth Christopher Nolan Batman film?

I THINK NOT!

[WampusCrandle]

Eddie Murphy is to play "The Riddler" in the next Batman Movie. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece)

It gets worse, everyone.


Holy Movie Franchise Destroyer, Batman! They're bringing Robin back to fuck it all up....AGAIN!

Anyone wanna make a bet there will be a fourth Christopher Nolan Batman film?

I THINK NOT!

they also said that Rachel Weisz may play Cat Woman

damn, just read it myself. the thing is, Christian Bale said he wouldn't play batman if they add Robin in. (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/christian_bale_will_not_be_complicit.html)

another link, as well (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/07/02/batman_bale_says_no_to_robin_)

[foodcourtdruide]

Eddie Murphy is to play "The Riddler" in the next Batman Movie. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece)

It gets worse, everyone.




Holy Movie Franchise Destroyer, Batman! They're bringing Robin back to fuck it all up....AGAIN!

Anyone wanna make a bet there will be a fourth Christopher Nolan Batman film?

I THINK NOT!

LOL! Is Michael Bay available to direct? At least we don't have to deal with another year of claims that a Batman movie was better than Godfather II because of a great acting performance.

[Doctor Manhattan]

There is only one way to add Robin to these new Batman movies:


Bruce (as Bruce not The Batman) is introduced to a young man called Robin who worked the circus but his parents were killed.
Robin says "Hey"
Cut to the next scene and never look back

[Furtherman]

C'mon.... THE SUN?!

Settle down - Eddie Murphy has not been cast. Shia won't be Robin.

And as for Weisz playing Catwoman.... only another rumor.




The script hasn't even been written yet.


So will take this opportunity to post a picture of Rachel Weisz anyway.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2008/12/rachel.jpg

[ScottFromGA]

If Eddie Murphy is the Riddler....I'm gonna boycott. Eddie Murphy is box office POISON and all his fucking movies SUCK.


shia lebouf isn't that bad though...I kinda like the kid

[KingGeno]

Per Paramount, there has been no movement or discussion or even a story drafted for the Batman sequel. Chris Nolan is going to make one or two movies in between before coming back....if he comes back.

It's nice to speculate though. Rachel Wiesz is yummy. Angelina Jolie is boring now.

[Furtherman]

Eddie Murphy is to play "The Riddler" in the next Batman Movie. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece)

If Eddie Murphy is the Riddler....I'm gonna boycott. Eddie Murphy is box office POISON and all his fucking movies SUCK.


shia lebouf isn't that bad though...I kinda like the kid


You two give Scotts a bad name.

[ScottFromGA]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/09/dark-knight-update-philip-seymour-hoffman-responds-to-casting-rumor-i-dont-know-if-id-be-a-good-penguin/

Yesterday, we reported that “Dark Knight” castmember Michael Caine claimed that as far as he knew, the villains for the next “Batman” film had been cast with Johnny Depp landing the role of The Riddler, and Philip Seymour Hoffman playing The Penguin. Today at the Toronto Film Festival, we went right to the source and asked Hoffman directly if he indeed had been cast as The Penguin.

“No one has talked to me about it ever — never,” replied Hoffman. “It happened, like, five years ago, too. It was a rumor back then and it’s still a rumor. [laughs] It’s just in the press. It’s funny.”

Sooooo..................


Did anyone see Hoffman on The Daily Show the other night? Dude is getting fat as fuck...so this MIGHT be true now.


who knows?

[ScottFromGA]

You two give Scotts a bad name.

well you give love a bad name....but you don't see my attacking you now, do you?

:glurps:

[Furtherman]

well you give love a bad name....but you don't see my attacking you now, do you?

:glurps:

Not attack you budday, it's just that we told you the rumor is false.

[ScottFromGA]

Not attack you budday, it's just that we told you the rumor is false.

I know....that was just my chance to throw out a Bon Jovi reference.


:thumbup:

[Doctor Manhattan]

Per Paramount, there has been no movement or discussion or even a story drafted for the Batman sequel.

What does Warner Brothers have to say about their Batman Movies?

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/monzy79/Warner_Bros.png

[Furtherman]

What does Warner Brothers have to say about their Batman Movies?

Alan Horn Clears Up Dark Knight Sequel Rumors

With all the rumors swirling around the internet about possible casting for Warner Bros.' sequel to the record-breaking box office blockbuster The Dark Knight--absolutely none of them true as yet--Collider had a chance to talk briefly with Alan Horn, the President of Warner Bros., and probably the one man who would know more than anyone else about anything going on with this highly-anticipated project.

He got straight to the point when asked about progress on the sequel: "We've been talking to Chris Nolan and what we have to do is get him in the right place and have him tell us what he thinks the notion might be for a great story, but Chris did a great job and we'd love to have him come back and do another one."

As far as the timing of the project, he went onto say: "The story is everything and we are very respectful of Chris. We have a wonderful relationship with him and we are going to be respectful of his timing and we want to get it right. Also, I think the fans expect that – they want us to make a terrific movie – we have to give them another great movie."

In the interview, Horn also expressed interest in bringing back Superman and confirmed that they're very close to rolling on a movie starring DC's other power player, Green Lantern. (In fact, earlier this week Dark Horizons reported that Australia was vying for the latter project, but nothing has been confirmed as far as a start date.)

[razorboy]

I went ahead and bought the blu-ray and watched it again last night. It still holds up pretty well, especially the Hans Zimmer soundtrack.

[ScottFromGA]

I <3 Blu Ray....can't wait till i get to buy one.

[cougarjake13]

If Eddie Murphy is the Riddler....I'm gonna boycott. Eddie Murphy is box office POISON and all his fucking movies SUCK.




shrek movies were good

[RingWraith]

If Eddie Murphy is the Riddler....I'm gonna boycott. Eddie Murphy is box office POISON and all his fucking movies SUCK.


shia lebouf isn't that bad though...I kinda like the kid


BLASPHEMY!!! Eddie Murphy was AWESOME in the 80's. My all-time favorites are Coming to America and Trading Places.

Anyhoo, all those casting rumors for the next Batman movie are false anyway.

[cougarjake13]

BLASPHEMY!!! Eddie Murphy was AWESOME in the 80's. My all-time favorites are Coming to America and Trading Places.

Anyhoo, all those casting rumors for the next Batman movie are false anyway.

yeh you said it right there in your post ... in the 80's

[RingWraith]

yeh you said it right there in your post ... in the 80's

That's was his prime years. Then all of a sudden he can't curse no more.

[cougarjake13]

That's was his prime years. Then all of a sudden he can't curse no more.

he went pg to make the money

cant blame the man for wanting to make some money

[RingWraith]

he went pg to make the money

cant blame the man for wanting to make some money

I know what you mean. There's more money in doing family-friendly movies than anything other films.
But still, I miss old Eddie Murphy.

Anyhoo, as far as the Dark Knight. The movie is really awesome on Blu-Ray. Especially the scenes they shot with the IMAX cameras.

[cougarjake13]

I know what you mean. There's more money in doing family-friendly movies than anything other films.
But still, I miss old Eddie Murphy.

Anyhoo, as far as the Dark Knight. The movie is really awesome on Blu-Ray. Especially the scenes they shot with the IMAX cameras.

im going to see dark knight on imax screen next week

[NewYorkDragons80]

Eddie Murphy is to play "The Riddler" in the next Batman Movie. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece)

I heard he's gonna play the Riddler, Batman, and Flass
There is only one way to add Robin to these new Batman movies:


Bruce (as Bruce not The Batman) is introduced to a young man called Robin who worked the circus but his parents were killed.
Robin says "Hey"
Cut to the next scene and never look back


Robin could work if Dick Grayson is introduced in one movie, the character develops, and he doesn't become Robin until the next one. It doesn't need to be as rapid as it was in the earlier incarnations.

[cougarjake13]

I heard he's gonna play the Riddler, Batman, and Flass


Robin could work if Dick Grayson is introduced in one movie, the character develops, and he doesn't become Robin until the next one. It doesn't need to be as rapid as it was in the earlier incarnations.

is there really a need for robin in these nolan movies ??


i say no, but if you want you could have grayson introduced but never become robin in any of the movies

[TooLowBrow]

i hope they go to typical hollywood route with robin. he just shows up, a 30 year old 'boy' wonder.

[brettmojo]

is there really a need for robin in these nolan movies ??


i say no, but if you want you could have grayson introduced but never become robin in any of the movies
Robin wouldn't fly in any incarnation.

The whole idea of Robin is just too gay of a concept to be taken seriously in this current incarnation of Batman.

cj has a good idea though... Introduce Dick Grayson and have him become like Alfred or Fox and help Bruce do shit behind the scenes.

[A.J.]

So I saw this movie on the flight home yesterday. So is it me or did Heath Ledger channel Jeff Goldblum and Mason Verger from Hannibal for the Joker character?

[NewYorkDragons80]

is there really a need for robin in these nolan movies ??


i say no, but if you want you could have grayson introduced but never become robin in any of the movies

Maybe not, but there's a way to do it without being campy and gay.

[TheMojoPin]

So I saw this movie on the flight home yesterday. So is it me or did Heath Ledger channel Jeff Goldblum and Mason Verger from Hannibal for the Joker character?

First class?

[A.J.]

First class?

Bidness.

[underdog]

I finally watched this movie tonight.

This movie is not as good as everyone seems to think it is.

Does EVERY scene need dramatic music? Jesus, enough with the fucking music. I thought I was watching The Jackal again.

I loved Batman Begins. Other than Heath Ledger, I don't think anything in this movie was better than the first one.

[scottinnj]

The Jackal was a pretty good movie. Except that Sidney Portier as Carter Preston and Richard Gere's Declan Mulqueen didn't mesh well as characters, and I was in the end rooting for Bruce Willis to make the First Lady's head turn into jell-o. After all, he did tell us his "secret" to get into the right position to take the shot.

[underdog]

The Jackal was a pretty good movie. Except that Sidney Portier as Carter Preston and Richard Gere's Declan Mulqueen didn't mesh well as characters, and I was in the end rooting for Bruce Willis to make the First Lady's head turn into jell-o. After all, he did tell us his "secret" to get into the right position to take the shot.

I love The Jackal. It is a bad movie. I watched it again (probably for about the 50th time) last night. And its as bad as ever. But so, so good.

[scottinnj]

I love The Jackal. It is a bad movie. I watched it again (probably for about the 50th time) last night. And its as bad as ever. But so, so good.

Jack Black rules in the scene where he is running from Willis to avoid getting shot and he's pulling up his pants. Makes me laugh a whole lot.

[BlackSpider]

Jack Black rules in the scene where he is running from Willis to avoid getting shot and he's pulling up his pants. Makes me laugh a whole lot.

They spall...

[underdog]

Jack Black rules in the scene where he is running from Willis to avoid getting shot and he's pulling up his pants. Makes me laugh a whole lot.

"Run."

There's one thing absolutely fantastic about the movie, and that is Bruce Willis. He's such a bad-ass.

Made me want to rewatch Last Man Standing. I wish I had it on dvd.

[TheMojoPin]

Made me want to rewatch Last Man Standing. I wish I had it on dvd.

Barf.

I'm all for a good Kurosawa remake, but that one is baaaaaaad. I love a good dumb action flick, but man, that one is fucking boring.

Speaking of The Jackal, what was with Hollywood in the mid-90's getting big stars to do horrible Irish accents as Irish terrorists? Richard Gere, Brad Pitt and Tommy Lee Jones all sucked some serious dog balls trying to pull it off.

[cougarjake13]

Barf.

I'm all for a good Kurosawa remake, but that one is baaaaaaad. I love a good dumb action flick, but man, that one is fucking boring.

Speaking of The Jackal, what was with Hollywood in the mid-90's getting big stars to do horrible Irish accents as Irish terrorists? Richard Gere, Brad Pitt and Tommy Lee Jones all sucked some serious dog balls trying to pull it off.

and although he wasnt a terrorist dont forget tom cruise's lame irish accent in far and away

[pennington]

Back to topic, I rented the movie today and just watched it. If you haven't seen it yet, I would recommend it. At two and a half hours, though, a half hour could have easily been cut from it.

Heath Ledger was good. I know it's his last movie but I'm not sure this is Oscar caliber.

[fezident]

Great movie.
TDK is tied for first place with BLADE for my all time fave comic book film.


I know it's been said a squillion times but, why the F does Bruce feel compelled to use that lispy, gravelly voice? Even when he's alone with Lucius, he still does the Bat-voice. Kinda doesn't make sense.


QUESTION:
Bruce and Lucius comment on the new Bat armor's ability to protect him against cats. Is that a reference to Catwoman??
In this Gotham, does Catwoman already exist?

[TheMojoPin]

I know it's been said a squillion times but, why the F does Bruce feel compelled to use that lispy, gravelly voice? Even when he's alone with Lucius, he still does the Bat-voice. Kinda doesn't make sense.

I guess using it around Fox was because they don't ever explicitly acknowledge between them that Bruce is Batman, even though Fox obviously knows.

The voice is ultimately a necessary evil. In the comic, you have the luxury of forgoing dialogue and keeping Bats silent thanks to being able to caption his thoughts and inner monologues. In a film, you're not going to see people willing to let their big star keep his trap shut for too long, though Burton's films actually came closest to that with how little Keaton spoke as Batman. That was much more true to the comics.

Also in the comic, his "Bat-voice" is typically described along the lines of being a "raspy growl," so what we heard doesn't strike as me being too "off." Given that he's a famous figure in Gotham, he's going to have to pretty significantly change his voice when he talks to not be recognized.

[fezident]

I dunno of this has been mentioned somewhere in the last 25 pages but... the bonus features on the TDK dvd are excellent.

The featurette about scoring the film is the best of it's kind.


And I'm lovin' the "Gotham Tonight" segments. Bravo.

[psycho]

Great movie.
I know it's been said a squillion times but, why the F does Bruce feel compelled to use that lispy, gravelly voice? Even when he's alone with Lucius, he still does the Bat-voice. Kinda doesn't make sense.

I know! but the stupidest thing is, Batman is in the SAME universe as Superman!!! If we can accept that no one can tell Clark Kent is Superman just by taking off his glasses, then why can't we just accept that no one can tell Batman's voice is the same as Bruce Wayne???

[Coach_Mac]

I know! but the stupidest thing is, Batman is in the SAME universe as Superman!!! If we can accept that no one can tell Clark Kent is Superman just by taking off his glasses, then why can't we just accept that no one can tell Batman's voice is the same as Bruce Wayne???

What That why he was talking like that? I thought he was trying to be funny.

[fezident]

TDK at about 19mins 50secs, am I outta my fargin' mind or does Christian Bale have a MAJOR lisp?
"So... you're into ballet?" sounds exactly like The Cable Guy,

Anybody else hearing that.... or am I taking crathy pillth?

[psycho]

TDK at about 19mins 50secs, am I outta my fargin' mind or does Christian Bale have a MAJOR lisp?
"So... you're into ballet?" sounds exactly like The Cable Guy,

Anybody else hearing that.... or am I taking crathy pillth?

Could it be his accent possibly? I know I've heard him with a Brittish accent or something.

[TooLowBrow]

TDK at about 19mins 50secs, am I outta my fargin' mind or does Christian Bale have a MAJOR lisp?
"So... you're into ballet?" sounds exactly like The Cable Guy,

Anybody else hearing that.... or am I taking crathy pillth?

i noticed the lisp through the whole movie

[cougarjake13]

TDK at about 19mins 50secs, am I outta my fargin' mind or does Christian Bale have a MAJOR lisp?
"So... you're into ballet?" sounds exactly like The Cable Guy,

Anybody else hearing that.... or am I taking crathy pillth?

i'll have to re watch

[brettmojo]

I know! but the stupidest thing is, Batman is in the SAME universe as Superman!!!
This Batman doesn't, according to Chris Nolan.

[instrument]

They don't exist in the same universe if the writer says they don't.

This shouldn't be news, superman was alone in all his movies...

And why is everyone so stuck on the voice? Did you miss the first movie?

Also luscious has deniability, remember when he showed bruce the sonar? "Just like a B-submarine mister wayne"

[cougarjake13]

They don't exist in the same universe if the writer says they don't.

This shouldn't be news, superman was alone in all his movies...

And why is everyone so stuck on the voice? Did you miss the first movie?

Also luscious has deniability, remember when he showed bruce the sonar? "Just like a B-submarine mister wayne"

it didnt seem to be as bad in the first

[fezident]

i noticed the lisp through the whole movie


Really?? There were a few scenes when he was in the costume that I noticed that lisp loud & clear.
But as Bruce Wayne.... only that one scene jumped out at me.

[brettmojo]

it didnt seem to be as bad in the first
No it didn't.

[cougarjake13]

No it didn't.

did he do it more to appear more darker ??

[ArcticWaddle]

Its not always the actors fault they sound dumb. 90% of the time sure but not always.
Though much of the voice effect is Bale's own doing, under the guidance of director Christopher Nolan and supervising sound editor Richard King, the frequency of his Batman voice was modulated to exaggerate the effect.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/04/christian-bales-batman-wa_n_116679.html

[psycho]

They don't exist in the same universe if the writer says they don't.

This shouldn't be news, superman was alone in all his movies...

And why is everyone so stuck on the voice? Did you miss the first movie?

Also luscious has deniability, remember when he showed bruce the sonar? "Just like a B-submarine mister wayne"
Yes they they can be alone in the movie, but what I'm saying is that they are still both part of the DC Universe. You're not getting the point, I'm just saying its ridiculous that Superman takes off his glasses and no one knows its him and Batman has to change his voice to sound retarded. Even if the writers claim they aren't in the same universe, it's still stupid.

There's multiple reasons why the voice is a bigger deal this time around. The biggest reason why no one noticed in the first one is because he barely talked as Batman in that one. The other reason it's a much bigger deal this time around is because this movie is much more popular. But it was still a issue for the people in the first one, because I saw sketches making fun of the voice from Batman Begins.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm surprised no one's made any comments, for or against, regarding The Dark Knight's best-film Oscar snub.

I wouldn't have been pissed if it got nominated, but it wasn't in my top 5.

Opinions anyone?

[epo]

I'm surprised no one's made any comments, for or against, regarding The Dark Knight's best-film Oscar snub.

I wouldn't have been pissed if it got nominated, but it wasn't in my top 5.

Opinions anyone?

A comic book doesn't get a nomination and its a "snub"?

Bullshit.

[Gvac]

I still haven't seen it.

[TooLowBrow]

Yes they they can be alone in the movie, but what I'm saying is that they are still both part of the DC Universe. You're not getting the point, I'm just saying its ridiculous that Superman takes off his glasses and no one knows its him and Batman has to change his voice to sound retarded. Even if the writers claim they aren't in the same universe, it's still stupid.

There's multiple reasons why the voice is a bigger deal this time around. The biggest reason why no one noticed in the first one is because he barely talked as Batman in that one. The other reason it's a much bigger deal this time around is because this movie is much more popular. But it was still a issue for the people in the first one, because I saw sketches making fun of the voice from Batman Begins.

An essential characteristic of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero, and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When he wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic that Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman, Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses, the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.

[brettmojo]

I'm surprised no one's made any comments, for or against, regarding The Dark Knight's best-film Oscar snub.

I wouldn't have been pissed if it got nominated, but it wasn't in my top 5.

Opinions anyone?
Maybe not best picture, but Nolan should have at least got a nod for best director.

Anyone who pulls off an intriguing realistic movie about Batman deserves some recognition.

[foodcourtdruide]

Maybe not best picture, but Nolan should have at least got a nod for best director.

Anyone who pulls off an intriguing realistic movie about Batman deserves some recognition.

Appealing, yes. Realistic? Bat-Sonar, Ferry scene, China scene?

[Coach_Mac]

i noticed the lisp through the whole movie

Close your eyes and try to tell the difference.

http://media.filmschoolrejects.com/images/darkknight-gotmilk.jpg
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/docs/images/Carey_Cable_Guy.JPG

[Contra]

Yeah I noticed the lisp a little too, also in Rescue Dawn. I think its the way he mimics an American accent.

[newport king]

i've now watched this movie about 8 times in the last 4 days on hbo...does anyone else find it a little dumb that joker was responsible for killing dog faced maggie gyllenhall and horribly disfigured harvey dent. yet joker visits him in the hospital afterward, gives him a psycho speech and all of a sudden the ultimate good guy makes a big heel turn like that? a little unbelievable to say the least.

[HBox]

i've now watched this movie about 8 times in the last 4 days on hbo...does anyone else find it a little dumb that joker was responsible for killing dog faced maggie gyllenhall and horribly disfigured harvey dent. yet joker visits him in the hospital afterward, gives him a psycho speech and all of a sudden the ultimate good guy makes a big heel turn like that? a little unbelievable to say the least.

Kinda, but they did set it up in the scene with Commissioner Gordon at the hospital bed. It wasn't totally out of nowhere.

[Contra]

If you watched it 8 times and still don't understand why he visits him, I don't think I'll be able to explain it to you.

[newport king]

i get why he visits him, thats not the problem i had. the problem is how easy it was to flip him.

[TripleSkeet]

i get why he visits him, thats not the problem i had. the problem is how easy it was to flip him.

I wouldnt call burning half your face off and killing your fiance "easy".

[newport king]

i don't know if im making clear what my problem is. the guy was the ultimate good guy and a tragedy happens to him...the guy responsible visits him and then he completely switches sides. i'd understand if he were to go on a sick vendetta against criminals but to become one MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE to me. :wallbash:

[newport king]

like why would that make him want to be a bad guy and put a bullet into comissioner gordons kid?

[Doogie]

What bothers me about the movie is when they are having the party at Bruce Wayne's house. The Joker and his henchmen show up, blah blah blah. Then when Batman starts fighting with Joker and his men, NO ONE takes that opportunity to leave the party. Just always bothered me.

[TooLowBrow]

i don't know if im making clear what my problem is. the guy was the ultimate good guy and a tragedy happens to him...the guy responsible visits him and then he completely switches sides. i'd understand if he were to go on a sick vendetta against criminals but to become one MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE to me. :wallbash:

people here are deliberately

http://www.freehomeworkmathhelp.com/Geometry/Geometry_Introduction/geometry_homework_help_obtuse_angle.GIF

[newport king]

What bothers me about the movie is when they are having the party at Bruce Wayne's house. The Joker and his henchmen show up, blah blah blah. Then when Batman starts fighting with Joker and his men, NO ONE takes that opportunity to leave the party. Just always bothered me.

also after batman jumps out the window to save that terrible awful chick, did joker just hang around the party, have some cheese and crackers?

and HOW THE HELL did 2face get out of the hospital?????

[TooLowBrow]

also i love the random overreacting and underreacting of the armored car cops during the dent transport scene

why and where was he even being transported?

[newport king]

people here are deliberately

http://www.freehomeworkmathhelp.com/Geometry/Geometry_Introduction/geometry_homework_help_obtuse_angle.GIF

i'm not dumb for not playing along with a weak point in the story.

[newport king]

you know what? the more i watch this movie, the more i realize i don't really like it. take heath ledger out and it's pretty weak all around.

i used to think it was very good for what it was. but after being beaten to death with it it's really gone down in my book.

fuck batman.:thumbdown:

[TooLowBrow]

i'm not dumb for not playing along with a weak point in the story.

not you

they know what you meant, it was true, but people like to argue and nit pick

[TripleSkeet]

i don't know if im making clear what my problem is. the guy was the ultimate good guy and a tragedy happens to him...the guy responsible visits him and then he completely switches sides. i'd understand if he were to go on a sick vendetta against criminals but to become one MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE to me. :wallbash:

Um...it didnt make him want to be a bad guy. He didnt feel what he was doing was wrong. He was taking revenge on those responsible but leaving their fate to chance as a way of alleviating the guilt.

The one cop he killed and the girl cop he knocked out: They took him and his fiance to the mob

The mobster he didnt shoot and the driver he did shoot: Were involved in his kidnapping and the killing of his fiance

The Joker: Caught the lucky side of the coin

Batman: The whole reason he was in that mess to begin with

Commissioner Gordon: Refused to listen to him when he said his people couldnt be trusted, was going to kill his kid so he could feel the same pain he felt in losing the person he loved most.

Its really not hard to follow, Im surprised youre not getting it.

[newport king]

at the end of the movie, when he's flipping for batman its heads, he shoots him, he flips for himself, heads and he doesnt shoot himself, the kid, batman jumps in. he wasn't leaving it to chance at that point.

and to kill a child is a dramatic fucking leap because gordon didn't listen to him. wouldn't you say?

[TripleSkeet]

at the end of the movie, when he's flipping for batman its heads, he shoots him, he flips for himself, heads and he doesnt shoot himself, the kid, batman jumps in. he wasn't leaving it to chance at that point.

and to kill a child is a dramatic fucking leap because gordon didn't listen to him. wouldn't you say?

It wasnt heads when he flipped for himself.

And no its not a dramatic leap because when pointing the gun to his families heads thats the one Gordon freaked out over most. Doesnt matter if its a kid, it was who he loved most.

[newport king]

i thought it was but thats not the point. you clearly love this movie and i'm not going to change your mind about it. and i get everything youre saying. my problem with it is sloppy writing. i have a hard time believing someone would put a gun to a kids head because his father didnt listen to them about something, no matter how dire the consequence.

although i did love his bad acting when joker was in the hospital room and he starts convulsing on the bed.

[Contra]

at the end of the movie, when he's flipping for batman its heads, he shoots him, he flips for himself, heads and he doesnt shoot himself, the kid, batman jumps in. he wasn't leaving it to chance at that point.

and to kill a child is a dramatic fucking leap because gordon didn't listen to him. wouldn't you say?

You DO realize that BOTH sides of the coin are heads right? One side is damaged from the explosion, and if it lands on that side then you die.

And of course killing a child is an overreaction, his entire response is an overreaction! He's gone crazy with rage over the loss of his fiance'.

Did any of these 8 times include watching the entire movie? Just curious.

[newport king]

crazy with rage. got it. sorry to have questioned your favorite movie. how bout this, it's fucking stupid.

[Contra]

I'm glad I could help

[Contra]

crazy with rage. got it. sorry to have questioned your favorite movie. how bout this, it's fucking stupid.

Yeah because no one has ever killed anyone for a stupid reason in the history of mankind. Murder and tragedy don't exist. My bad.

[Furtherman]

It's a schemer who put you where you are. You were a schemer. You had plans. Look where it got you. I just did what I do best-I took your plan and turned it on itself. Look what I have done to this city with a few drums of gas and a couple bullets. Nobody panics when the expected people get killed. Nobody panics when things go according to plan, even if the plans are horrifying. If I tell the press that tomorrow a gangbanger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will get blown up, nobody panics. But when I say one little old mayor will die, everyone loses their minds! Introduce a little anarchy, you upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I am an agent of chaos. And you know the thing about chaos, Harvey? It's fair.

You just lost your girl and half your face - that sounds exactly right in regards of what just happened to you.


That's not sloppy writing - that's truth.

[TripleSkeet]

crazy with rage. got it. sorry to have questioned your favorite movie. how bout this, it's fucking stupid.

If you dont like it, thats one thing, but the reason people are answering you is not to convince you to like it, its because you said you didnt understand it. If you cant comprehend a simple story like tragedy can send a good man over the edge with rage, hey thats your problem.

You may think its stupid, but it happens every day.

Would you say killing your ex wife and her boyfriend and cutting her head off because she was dating someone after divorcing you is a rational decision? How about a believable one? Good go tell OJ, hell be thrilled to hear it.

[Crispy123]

Would you say killing your ex wife and her boyfriend and cutting her head off because she was dating someone after divorcing you is a rational decision? How about a believable one? Good go tell OJ, hell be thrilled to hear it.

That bitch had it comin.

[brettmojo]

crazy with rage. got it. sorry to have questioned your favorite movie. how bout this, it's fucking stupid.
If you also have a problem understanding the plot to Dude, Where's My Car? I can help you out with that one if you need it.

[EliSnow]

What bothers me about the movie is when they are having the party at Bruce Wayne's house. The Joker and his henchmen show up, blah blah blah. Then when Batman starts fighting with Joker and his men, NO ONE takes that opportunity to leave the party. Just always bothered me.

Free food and drinks, and entertainment? Who's going to leave that?


:wink:

[whorehay]

you know what? the more i watch this movie, the more i realize i don't really like it. take heath ledger out and it's pretty weak all around.

yes! i said the exact same thing about an hour ago (HBO has it on an endless loop it seems).
i never got it on dvd and still planned to eventually. then after catching it randomly on cable it hit me i dont ever think i'll watch this movie on purpose.

and batman talks like he's got a hamburger stuck in his throat.

[fezident]

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