View Full Version : Am i a snob/or a people stupid
patsopinion
05-05-2007, 12:21 PM
After attending almost 2 years of film school I feel that I am more versed in film then the average.
Last night my buddies friend brought over a guy that had written a few scrips, and called himself a director.
So I already hated him becuase he had never directed anything and was talking about directors as though he was more intelligent and qualified then a lot of them.
(a director has directed something, not wrote something once that will go no where)
I had to leave the room when he started talking about film like he was a movie god and he had knowledge that surpassed anyone. He wasn't worth arguing with because he was drunk and disproportionately stubborn in general.
Now im going to have him drop of his scrip(as a person who went to film school i feel that im a better writer than him) so i can fucking destroy the script and hopefully destroy his dreams and strange self image, purely for my own satisfaction.
Would that be wrong or do people need to be put in their place?
sailor
05-05-2007, 12:24 PM
i don't think you need to do that. he'll find out on his own, why make him want to kill you?
Yerdaddy
05-05-2007, 12:49 PM
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CofyCrakCocaine
05-05-2007, 12:53 PM
I think it's very wrong, and you are a snob if you think you're so much better than he is that it's now your mission to destroy his script. What have you written that you can compare to his? Why would you take his own work (which is his, he made it, and anything you do with it should be considered a crime) and destroy it out of some vicious petty OPINION you have of him? If you ever did anything like that to something I made, I'd see to it your life was a living hell. I wouldn't blame the guy if he went after you if you did something like that. If he sucks so much, as Sailor points out, why don't you just let him suck and realize he's a failure on his own? It's not your sworn duty to uphold the Good Writing God's Great Will by smiting this fool. And if you did destroy his work, I'd consider you a petty piece of shit. I have a very low opinion of people who sabotage others' projects for no better reason than they don't like them personally.
And by the way, just because you went to a school doesn't mean you're automatically superior than people at directing. There are plenty of awesome directors out there who never went to school. The credentials are mostly meaningless unless you can back them up with experience. Knowledge and experience are two wildly different things.
A great friend of mine went to 4 full years of film school and she still asks me for my opinion on things she does because she doesn't automatically assume she's made an awesome piece of video or writing. Of course, most of her actual experience was garnered from making wedding videos, photo shoots and videos of people's kids at some mall so she could make money to go to school in the first place..and that's what got her hired with Montecito Picture Company after graduation. She now works for a studio and she's very happy with her work. I think part of her success is that she's humble and doesn't harp on her superior skills she "acquired" from film school. That's a fine way to burn every bridge.
patsopinion
05-05-2007, 01:47 PM
I think it's very wrong, and you are a snob if you think you're so much better than he is that it's now your mission to destroy his script. What have you written that you can compare to his? Why would you take his own work (which is his, he made it, and anything you do with it should be considered a crime) and destroy it out of some vicious petty OPINION you have of him? If you ever did anything like that to something I made, I'd see to it your life was a living hell. I wouldn't blame the guy if he went after you if you did something like that. If he sucks so much, as Sailor points out, why don't you just let him suck and realize he's a failure on his own? It's not your sworn duty to uphold the Good Writing God's Great Will by smiting this fool. And if you did destroy his work, I'd consider you a petty piece of shit. I have a very low opinion of people who sabotage others' projects for no better reason than they don't like them personally.
And by the way, just because you went to a school doesn't mean you're automatically superior than people at directing. There are plenty of awesome directors out there who never went to school. The credentials are mostly meaningless unless you can back them up with experience. Knowledge and experience are two wildly different things.
A great friend of mine went to 4 full years of film school and she still asks me for my opinion on things she does because she doesn't automatically assume she's made an awesome piece of video or writing. Of course, most of her actual experience was garnered from making wedding videos, photo shoots and videos of people's kids at some mall so she could make money to go to school in the first place..and that's what got her hired with Montecito Picture Company after graduation. She now works for a studio and she's very happy with her work. I think part of her success is that she's humble and doesn't harp on her superior skills she "acquired" from film school. That's a fine way to burn every bridge.
a. no the guy is quite obviously an idiot with his head well embedded in his ass.
I acquired very little from school, outside of knowing that I knew nothing, and that I was never going to be any good.
The real thing paying 8k per semester taught me was that the school was selling peoples dreams back to them.
And hes such a pompous asshole I really want to kick him in his falsely inflated ego.
I want to be there to watch as he realizes that he sucks at life.
b. I haven't done it yet. The reason I posted this was the get a gauge of where this would stack up morally. Obviously it wouldn't be on my top ten list of great deeds either way, but with the ccc going that strong against it, i guess ill read his script and see if I can give him some positive feed back.
Fat_Sunny
05-05-2007, 01:56 PM
Now im going to have him drop of his scrip(as a person who went to film school i feel that im a better writer than him) so i can fucking destroy the script and hopefully destroy his dreams and strange self image, purely for my own satisfaction.
Would that be wrong or do people need to be put in their place?
If You Mean Drop Off His Script At Your School, To Be Read And Then Critqued By A Film Class, By All Means YES. No Reason Not To Embarrass A Fool And Knock Him Down A Peg Or Two.
If You Mean Drop The Script Off At Your House And Put It In The Fireplace, NO, That Would Not Be Fair.
sailor
05-05-2007, 02:00 PM
i think both of you are misreading the original post. i think pat was saying drop it off so pat could destroy it thru criticism. i don't believe vandalism was implied (like he'd not have it saved somewhere?) nor did it sound like he was going to share the script with others. i believe.
Fat_Sunny
05-05-2007, 02:05 PM
i think both of you are misreading the original post. i think pat was saying drop it off so pat could destroy it thru criticism. i don't believe vandalism was implied (like he'd not have it saved somewhere?) nor did it sound like he was going to share the script with others. i believe.
It Would Be Helpful To Get A Clarification From Pat. The Great Writer Whose Writing No One Can Understand, Ha Ha.
patsopinion
05-05-2007, 02:08 PM
It Would Be Helpful To Get A Clarification From Pat. The Great Writer Whose Writing No One Can Understand, Ha Ha.
(pat giggles)
no not destroy destroy the scrip
just tell him he sucked
i think he composed the scrip with ms office even
and go out and buy a few red pens and obliterate it
King Hippos Bandaid
05-05-2007, 02:10 PM
After attending almost 2 years of film school I feel that I am more versed in film then the average.
Last night my buddies friend brought over a guy that had written a few scrips, and called himself a director.
So I already hated him becuase he had never directed anything and was talking about directors as though he was more intelligent and qualified then a lot of them.
(a director has directed something, not wrote something once that will go no where)
I had to leave the room when he started talking about film like he was a movie god and he had knowledge that surpassed anyone. He wasn't worth arguing with because he was drunk and disproportionately stubborn in general.
Now im going to have him drop of his scrip(as a person who went to film school i feel that im a better writer than him) so i can fucking destroy the script and hopefully destroy his dreams and strange self image, purely for my own satisfaction.
Would that be wrong or do people need to be put in their place?
2 Wrongs don't make a right
and purposely destroying his dreams is kinda fucked up
:king:
patsopinion
05-05-2007, 02:13 PM
2 Wrongs don't make a right
and purposely destroying his dreams is kinda fucked up
:king:
yea but it would produce years of jacking material
sailor
05-05-2007, 02:17 PM
It Would Be Helpful To Get A Clarification From Pat. The Great Writer Whose Writing No One Can Understand, Ha Ha.
(pat giggles)
no not destroy destroy the scrip
just tell him he sucked
i think he composed the scrip with ms office even
and go out and buy a few red pens and obliterate it
face!
patsopinion
05-05-2007, 02:23 PM
It Would Be Helpful To Get A Clarification From Pat. The Great Writer Whose Writing No One Can Understand, Ha Ha.
from another abysmal attempt at communicating an idear
Patsopinion is becoming my favorite poster.
When I read one of his posts I feel like I just watched a Fellini film.
DarkHippie
05-05-2007, 02:39 PM
If your attention is to hurt someone, then obviously it is morally suspect. Even if he deserves it.
On the other hand, a good critique with a willing suspect always makes a better writer. If he really wants to be a writer/director, he has to learn to take criticism (alot of criticism) and not let it break him. If everyone likes your work, then you will never improve.
My mentor in college used to hate my writing. He thought it was self indulgent and the characters were unlikeable. His criticism made me work harder, and by the time I was a senior I was winning awards for my work. And he was very proud. I would be even more of a pathetic excuse for a writer without him being an asshole.
Sorry, i just wanted to make the post about me, cause i'm an egomaniac
lleeder
05-05-2007, 03:22 PM
I hope you destroy it then it gets picked up by a major studio and he becomes wealthy. Then you'll feel quite bad.
Snacks
05-05-2007, 03:25 PM
sounds like your a cocky fucker wihtout having something to back it up. You sound like a kid in a playground making fun of people playing basketball and as soon as you lace it up you suck. Going to film school doesnt make you better then him at anything. If your better then great, but who are you to think he has no talent. You havent even read any of his scripts yet.
And one more thing. I hate when people correct people about spelling on messageboards b/c its not english class. But if your going to talk as if your better then others at your craft atleast know how to spell the word/thing your talking about. Its called a script not scrip. Doing it once I thought you made a mistake but doing as much as you have speaks clearly about you and your craft.
sailor
05-05-2007, 04:04 PM
Sorry, i just wanted to make the post about me, cause i'm an egomaniac
be a lego(eggo)maniac
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FezPaul
05-05-2007, 04:08 PM
The reason I posted this was the get a gauge of where this would stack up morally.
Can't you figure that out for yourself?
Kevin
05-05-2007, 04:17 PM
I hope you destroy it then it gets picked up by a major studio and he becomes wealthy. Then you'll feel quite bad.
Yea, i am sure Lucas gives a shit that people thought his idea was crap and would go no place..
TheMojoPin
05-05-2007, 04:20 PM
You're a stupid snob.
I keed, I keed.
BoondockSaint
05-05-2007, 04:25 PM
Am i a snob/or a people stupid
Hmmm, it's a tough choice but I'm going to go with "a people stupid."
Kevin
05-05-2007, 04:27 PM
Hmmm, it's a tough choice but I'm going to go with "a people stupid."
Does anything get by you, Boony??
BoondockSaint
05-05-2007, 04:33 PM
Does anything get by you, Boony??
The power of vodka is amazing.
RogerPodacter
05-05-2007, 06:12 PM
so i can fucking destroy the script and hopefully destroy his dreams and strange self image, purely for my own satisfaction.
If You Mean Drop The Script Off At Your House And Put It In The Fireplace, NO, That Would Not Be Fair.
considering he said destroy his script and hopefully his dreams, one can only assume he was talking about critiquing it. unless we are led to believe that he thinks simply by burning some paper would destroy this guys dreams and self image. surely he would have an electronic backup of his script.
but i digress. this guy seems more like an idiot than the script he wants to "destroy". anyone who claims they are a writer of any kind, but has poor spelling and/or grammer, makes me wonder. and yes i realize that this is a message board blah blah. on a keyboard the letter t and p are pretty far apart. and he left out the t on numerous occasions when spelling the word script. not trying to pick a fight...just tellin my opinion.
RogerPodacter
05-05-2007, 06:17 PM
A great friend of mine went to 4 full years of film school and she still asks me for my opinion on things she does because she doesn't automatically assume she's made an awesome piece of video or writing. Of course, most of her actual experience was garnered from making wedding videos, photo shoots and videos of people's kids at some mall so she could make money to go to school in the first place..and that's what got her hired with Montecito Picture Company after graduation. She now works for a studio and she's very happy with her work. I think part of her success is that she's humble and doesn't harp on her superior skills she "acquired" from film school. That's a fine way to burn every bridge.
especially when youre saying you barely have 2 years of school under your belt.
Fat_Sunny
05-05-2007, 06:43 PM
PatsOpinion Is The Voice Of A New Generation. Like Many Great Minds That Are Ahead Of Their Time, His Is One That Is Often Mis-Understood...Or Not Understood At All. As With James Joyce, It Will Take Some Time Before His Style And Message Are Fully Appreciated And Yes, Even Revered.
Fat Will Look Fondly Back In Many Years And Say To His Great-Grandchildren "Do You Believe PatsOpinion Was Once Scoffed At By A Foolish Public?"
Midkiff
05-05-2007, 07:14 PM
You're a stupid snob.
And a post whore too.
weekapaugjz
05-05-2007, 07:25 PM
And a post whore too.
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RogerPodacter
05-05-2007, 07:41 PM
PatsOpinion Is The Voice Of A New Generation. Like Many Great Minds That Are Ahead Of Their Time, His Is One That Is Often Mis-Understood...Or Not Understood At All. As With James Joyce, It Will Take Some Time Before His Style And Message Are Fully Appreciated And Yes, Even Revered.
Fat Will Look Fondly Back In Many Years And Say To His Great-Grandchildren "Do You Believe PatsOpinion Was Once Scoffed At By A Foolish Public?"
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Midkiff
05-05-2007, 07:45 PM
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white people are so scared....
jetdog
05-06-2007, 08:54 AM
I'm kinda surprised how many people jumped on pat for this...haven't we all had those petty thoughts of pain and suffering visited upon people who annoy the shit out of us? And isn't posting about them an outlet such that the thoughts are not brought to fruition and the healing can begin?
With that being said, I think you should invite this guy over and slip him some paralyzing toxin in his beer, then sit him in front of a typewriter and make him watch as you type "ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES PATSOPINION A DULL BOY" all over his script, then rail about how genius it is, then give him paper cuts all over his neck and genitalia.
Midkiff
05-06-2007, 09:01 AM
With that being said, I should invite this guy over and slip him some genitalia.
Phixed it for ya!
ChimneyFish
05-06-2007, 11:21 AM
Can he hook me up with one for Ativan????
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