Opie & Anthony Suspended by XM!!!!

[EliSnow]

I got in a minute ago, and the message appeared to be gone.

So the "firing" thing is no longer on wackbag?

[WilmingtonWOW]

Who has the inferiority complex here? Ron and Fez are their own show, they are brilliant, funny individuals. It may shock you to hear, but the buddies had a show when O+A didn't. To say they wouldn't be on the air without O+A does sound like you are not apart of the 'team' you talk about.

Considering most people in this world work, which requires going to bed before midnight, and concievably might not let them listen live (streaming is block at work)--some people are going to get to hear the show that never get to listen. I wouldn't blame anyone for being excited to be able to hear the show. If Ron and Fez actually had a decent repeat slot during the day, I doubt there would be a single person expressing excitement.

And for the record I don't agree with the original post, but can 100% see where they are coming from.

correct me if I am wrong, but didnt O&A lobby hard to get the buddays to come to XM
while they were only on in WJFK?
Then R&F get a follow O&A to Free FM, I am sure O&A lobbied hard for them too there.
Hence without O&A, R&F would probably not be on Free FM and XM
I am on the team, and dont miss a second of both shows.
I was pissed that the poster was trying to divide and conquer
why would you say I have the inferiority complex? I support both shows

[kevtv]

It sayd "1 AM" so I doubt the validity here.

a lot of msg boards have the time option and its all screwed up...

[ChimneyFish]

I got in a minute ago, and the message appeared to be gone.



Hackers????

[mikeyboy]

So the "firing" thing is no longer on wackbag?

It doesn't appear to be. It's very tough to get on right now, but when I can get on, it doesn't appear to be there any more.

[spankyfrank]

Hackers????

Its the Russian communists!!!

[TjM]

from opieanthony.net...

The guy that broke the suspension news before the press release posted this about an hour ago

"Starting soon, O&A will be a free, opt-in channel. The channel will not be listed on your radio unless you call/go online and opt-in for the channel to be "activated"

Honestly I have no problem with that. It provides an INSTANT defense against crap like this

[topless_mike]

wonder what "big nose" (hoo hoo hoo) will have to say about this tomorrow on his stupid show.

[suggums]

Like all news I read on the internet, until I see an official report, I'm not believing anything.

True true, I had to look up the number to call and have reconsidered. I want a confirmed source especially if the message is now gone.

FYI, the number is 1-800-XM-RADIO (1-800-967-2346). Duh

[ppanda]

Whelp- I was gonna ask for a XM reciever for my birthday or christmas- I think after reading this I am gonna ask for something else- whats the point of paying for a subscription if they are still going to regaulate what the talent can and cannot say- and what we should and should not hear. BULLSHIT!!!! IM A FUKING ADULT- DONT PLAY MOMMY TO ME.

[ruggedo]

This is so much about politics,not special interest groups,not even the media. This is all about the merger and maybe some pressure from people who might stand in the way of it. This hasnt been a big news story, and it hasnt been a campaign by anyone but XM radio and thier partner in crime,the doggy. If O&A retired,or decided to go somewhere else I might have kept my subscriptions,but to have it end this way,XM has lost five subscriptions.

[EliSnow]

from opieanthony.net...

The guy that broke the suspension news before the press release posted this about an hour ago

"Starting soon, O&A will be a free, opt-in channel. The channel will not be listed on your radio unless you call/go online and opt-in for the channel to be "activated"

If this is true, then it appears XM is trying to provide some ammunition in response to protests from special interests groups, i.e. "if you don't like the show, you'll never hear it because you can only get it if you want the show. So who's being offended."

[TjM]

correct me if I am wrong, but didnt O&A lobby hard to get the buddays to come to XM
while they were only on in WJFK?
Then R&F get a follow O&A to Free FM, I am sure O&A lobbied hard for them too there.
Hence without O&A, R&F would probably not be on Free FM and XM
I am on the team, and dont miss a second of both shows.
I was pissed that the poster was trying to divide and conquer
why would you say I have the inferiority complex? I support both shows


Allright cut the shitee both of you

[Furtherman]

OK, what I heard, and this is a reputable source, is that O&A will now be hosting the CBS Evening News. Katie Couric is out.

[ChimneyFish]

If this is true, then it appears XM is trying to provide some ammunition in response to protests from special interests groups, i.e. "if you don't like the show, you'll never hear it because you can only get it if you want the show. So who's being offended."



That would be a brilliant move.

[deepinthewoods]

My helpful wife (badinia) just pointed out that the O&A picture that shows up as the background screen for 202 on the Inno has been removed and replaced with a close-up of a microphone (appropriately with no human presence). I think the robot gorillas have finally taken over.

[DolaMight]

i can't believe zagman w/o a source. he does great things for wackbag and all that, but a firing 2 hours after a suspension?a bit much...


Fired or not, cancel your subscription. Don't let XM think their actions or words have no consequences.

I'm wondering with XM in it's fragile finacial state and the ulikeliness of the Merger approval, that this is getting so big it might fold XM.

I'm thinking Mel Karmazin is behind this, he wants XM but not O&A and this is the perfect chance.

[SteveinJersey]

This is so much about politics,not special interest groups,not even the media. This is all about the merger



What did Imus and JV and Elvis have to do with the XM Sirius merger???

[johnniewalker]

It doesn't appear to be. It's very tough to get on right now, but when I can get on, it doesn't appear to be there any more.

Still up there for me.

[ChoppedLiver]

It doesn't appear to be. It's very tough to get on right now, but when I can get on, it doesn't appear to be there any more.


It's still there in big red letters.

Refresh, refresh, refresh.....

[IamPixie]

Still up there for me.

not for me.

[baggio]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY


The guy at XM , when I called to ask for credit for my 2 radios said:


That Opie & Anthony were not suspended from XM for 30 days for what they said last week.

He said they were specifically suspended because they broke a contract between the boys and XM on NOT MENTIONING THE INCIDENT. They broke that contract and that is the REASON WHY they were suspended. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A FREE SEECH ISSUE or the incident itself.

And he said they will be back on in 30 days or less. He also said that soon there will be news on the actually website explaining this issue in the next couple of days.

[JPMNICK]

for me it is still up there, but with the server getting killed like it is, it could just be a cache issue at this point.

[ruggedo]

OK, what I heard, and this is a reputable source, is that O&A will now be hosting the CBS Evening News. Katie Couric is out.

This one I absolutely believe!

[hfs1103]

yeah I just got back on whackbag(for a second) and they still have it in bold red letters.

[NYHCmikeX]

I see the fired message. But the Xm site has nothing other than the suspension annoucement.

[TjM]

This one I absolutely believe!


Makes sense Katie is losing her looks and Ope coulda been a model

[burrben]

still says it

[Gvac]

This is from XM Radio's site -

As you know, XM has suspended Opie & Anthony and ceased all broadcast of The Opie & Anthony Show on The Virus - XM 202 for 30 days, effective May 15, 2007.

Last Wednesday, Opie and Anthony made statements on their show that were deplorable. They issued an apology that day, but comments they made on their May 14th broadcast called into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter. We give our on air talent creative freedom, however we expect them to take this responsibility seriously.

In the meantime, Ron & Fez will air in place of The O&A Show on XM 202.

If you have comments or questions, please email us at thevirus@xmradio.com

[Midkiff]

I just saw it.

[Landblast]

Ron & Fez replays for 30 days.

sweet jesus i didn't think about that!

[ruggedo]

What did Imus and JV and Elvis have to do with the XM Sirius merger???

I believe this topic is about O & A not JV and Elvis. In fact the JV and Elvis thing did make the news and was kept topical as a story. The only ones keeping the O&A story alive has been XM. CBS is keeping O&A on the air,because this is not a story,its a corporate thing between O&A and their other employer.

[NYHCmikeX]

They had at least better simulcast R&Fs Free show if we dont have O&A.

[pujolist]

Bullshit, totally bullshit. In a nutshell.

[TjM]

I think it's bull but listening to RnF for an hour on my way to work ain't bad. To be honest the "Opt in" channel sounds like a perfect solution

[baggio]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY


The guy at XM , when I called to ask for credit for my 2 radios said:


That Opie & Anthony were not suspended from XM for 30 days for what they said last week.

He said they were specifically suspended because they broke a contract between the boys and XM on NOT MENTIONING THE INCIDENT. They broke that contract and that is the REASON WHY they were suspended. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A FREE SEECH ISSUE or the incident itself.

And he said they will be back on in 30 days or less. He also said that soon there will be news on the actually website explaining this issue in the next couple of days.

[EliSnow]

I'm wondering with XM in it's fragile finacial state and the ulikeliness of the Merger approval, that this is getting so big it might fold XM.



No offense to anyone here, but is it really "getting so big?" Yes, if loyal listeners cancel, it will hurt XM, and may make them change their minds, but is OA XM's top draw?

Note, I'm not saying this to say people shouldn't call to cancel, etc, because I do think XM will take notice of this. I'm only asking about the size of O&A's XM audience.

[johnniewalker]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY


The guy at XM , when I called to ask for credit for my 2 radios said:


That Opie & Anthony were not suspended from XM for 30 days for what they said last week.

He said they were specifically suspended because they broke a contract between the boys and XM on NOT MENTIONING THE INCIDENT. They broke that contract and that is the REASON WHY they were suspended. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A FREE SEECH ISSUE or the incident itself.

And he said they will be back on in 30 days or less. He also said that soon there will be news on the actually website explaining this issue in the next couple of days.
Was he indian? I think we got the same guy!

[Recyclerz]

Quote:
Originally Posted by EliSnow
If this is true, then it appears XM is trying to provide some ammunition in response to protests from special interests groups, i.e. "if you don't like the show, you'll never hear it because you can only get it if you want the show. So who's being offended."


That would be a brilliant move.

Except that it automatically limits their potential audience, some they complained about back in the premium channel days. But, sadly, this might be the least bad option, considering the current environment.


Remember when we used to feel sorry for the Chinese people because their government and institutions limited what kind of information they could have? Yeah, those were the days. :sad:

[Friday]

OK, what I heard, and this is a reputable source, is that O&A will now be hosting the CBS Evening News. Katie Couric is out.

:lol:

[Dirtybird12]

sadly - this is how it all started with JV & Elvis AND IMUS

suspension that lead into being fired.

Has any show ever been "banned" for 30 days?

Crazy Jen spent 30 days in the hole once.

[WilmingtonWOW]

No offense to anyone here, but is it really "getting so big?" Yes, if loyal listeners cancel, it will hurt XM, and may make them change their minds, but is OA XM's top draw?

Note, I'm not saying this to say people shouldn't call to cancel, etc, because I do think XM will take notice of this. I'm only asking about the size of O&A's XM audience.

didnt Elo say that 202 is the channel with the biggest or 2nd biggest audiance?

[Gvac]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY


The guy at XM , when I called to ask for credit for my 2 radios said:


That Opie & Anthony were not suspended from XM for 30 days for what they said last week.

He said they were specifically suspended because they broke a contract between the boys and XM on NOT MENTIONING THE INCIDENT. They broke that contract and that is the REASON WHY they were suspended. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A FREE SEECH ISSUE or the incident itself.

And he said they will be back on in 30 days or less. He also said that soon there will be news on the actually website explaining this issue in the next couple of days.

Don't believe a word of it.

XM will say anything to keep its paying customers. They "suspended" O & A because they feared having to deal with professional shakedown artists like Sharpton.

Fuck them.

I'll miss the shit out of Ron and Fez, baseball, and hockey, but I'm going to save my $12.95 + tax a month and tell XM to shove it up their ass at the same time.

[baggio]

Was he indian? I think we got the same guy!

No he was not Indian, He was white from what I could tell, and sounded like a fan. He said that he has been explaining this to people calling up. Because they are getting the info wrong.

[Midkiff]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY


The guy at XM , when I called to ask for credit for my 2 radios said:


That Opie & Anthony were not suspended from XM for 30 days for what they said last week.

He said they were specifically suspended because they broke a contract between the boys and XM on NOT MENTIONING THE INCIDENT. They broke that contract and that is the REASON WHY they were suspended. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A FREE SEECH ISSUE or the incident itself.

And he said they will be back on in 30 days or less. He also said that soon there will be news on the actually website explaining this issue in the next couple of days.


Fuck them anyway. They can suck my hairy balls for doing it, period.

[J.Clints]

Don't believe a word of it.

XM will say anything to keep its paying customers. They "suspended" O & A because they feared having to deal with professional shakedown artists like Sharpton.

Fuck them.

I'll miss the shit out of Ron and Fez, baseball, and hockey, but I'm going to save my $12.95 + tax a month and tell XM to shove it up their ass at the same time.

xm can shove my 3 units up there ass FUCK EM

[EliSnow]

didnt Elo say that 202 is the channel with the biggest or 2nd biggest audiance?

To be honest, I don't listen to O&A religiously. He may have, I just don't know.

[TjM]

I've been an O&A fan since they were on AAF. I will wait to see what happens but I like having the MLB and I have turned into a huge R&F fan. I would love to say I WILL CANCEL but I won't

[DolaMight]

No offense to anyone here, but is it really "getting so big?" Yes, if loyal listeners cancel, it will hurt XM, and may make them change their minds, but is OA XM's top draw?

Note, I'm not saying this to say people shouldn't call to cancel, etc, because I do think XM will take notice of this. I'm only asking about the size of O&A's XM audience.


I'd imagine O&A fans make up probally 10% of XM subs, not much overall, but losing most of those subs combined with the fact that XM is barely showing any growth to investors they will be close to packin it in. Face it this company needs the Merger to survive.

[derrickgott007]

Was he indian? I think we got the same guy!

I got a lady that said it was "Older Listeners" that called and complained.... nothing about a contract....Then she hung up on me when I said "Why don't you tell them about channel blocking or how to change the channel?"

[Death Metal Moe]

sadly - this is how it all started with JV & Elvis AND IMUS

suspension that lead into being fired.

Has any show ever been "banned" for 30 days?

Crazy Jen spent 30 days in the hole once.

I'd like to spend 30 days in that hole.

[EliSnow]

Quote:
Except that it automatically limits their potential audience, some they complained about back in the premium channel days. But, sadly, this might be the least bad option, considering the current environment.




Good points.

[STC-Dub]

Here is my letter to XM:

I originally subscribed to XM so that I could listen to music that was not country or classic rock while I was at work. One day, someone mentioned that there was a channel I might be interested in, 202. Said channel was a refreshing change from what I could hear on “regular” radio. It featured hosts who talked like real people, had senses of humor, and said and acted like “regular” people. To be honest, if I had not found 202 I would not still be a subscriber to XM as I get Sirius for free as part of my Dish Network TV service.

When the entire Imus comments flap came up, I did not worry that the shows I listened to would be affected because they were on an uncensored channel. Little did I know, that uncensored is not, in fact uncensored. Your company’s decision to suspend Opie and Anthony for a month is de facto censorship. By their show not being on the air, you are in fact, censoring them. Worse yet, the Ron and Fez show will not be as creative and expressive as it was before the O & A suspension. R & F are not idiots, they know how the radio business works, they realize that if the show for which their channel is named can be suspended – and possibly terminated after the suspension – they have to be that much more careful.

All this leads to the reason for my disappointment in your company. You tout channel 202 as uncensored; you tout O&A’s outrageous radio on your web site. Yet, you have suspended them because you do not think their apology for what some deemed an “offensive” bit was not sincere. What I think is not sincere, is your commitment to offering an alternative to “regular” radio. Are you so worried about your potential merger that you are turning into “regular” radio? Have you lost your commitment to offering quality, uncensored content? From my point of view you have let your subscribers down by not delivering the radio you have promised us. Please reconsider your suspension of O&A and show your customers that they matter to you.

[ruggedo]

No offense to anyone here, but is it really "getting so big?" Yes, if loyal listeners cancel, it will hurt XM, and may make them change their minds, but is OA XM's top draw?

Note, I'm not saying this to say people shouldn't call to cancel, etc, because I do think XM will take notice of this. I'm only asking about the size of O&A's XM audience.

I'm not making a claim of a gigantic audience for O&A ,but late last year E-Lo mentioned that the second highest reason for subscription from retail has been O&A, the first was baseball. The other day when E-Lo walked in on the show,thursday I think, he had an XM bean counter with him who said that 202's audience was much bigger then Oprah's. That doesnt prove a huge audience,but it does give it some stength.

[TjM]

I'd imagine O&A fans make up probally 10% of XM subs, not much overall, but losing most of those subs combined with the fact that XM is barely showing any growth to investors they will be close to packin it in. Face it this company needs the Merger to survive.

They both do. Which makes me think some high powered political people demanded a blood sacrifice. Even with HooHoos ego keeping O&A on makes finacial sense

[JPMNICK]

On the air Elo has said 202 is one of the top, if not the top, listened to channels on XM and #1 in the demo that they want.

[MadBiker]

I knew something had to be up when I hear Ron and Fez replaying on the ride hom from work.

When O&A were suspended (and subsequently fired) after the St. Pat's incident I thought it was just a publicity stunt...now I have a sinking feeling the situation is playing itself out again....

Please tell me this is just a bit being done to stir up interest in the Poker Tour, Traveling Virus, and free speech issues....

[waltermitty]

My helpful wife (badinia) just pointed out that the O&A picture that shows up as the background screen for 202 on the Inno has been removed and replaced with a close-up of a microphone (appropriately with no human presence). I think the robot gorillas have finally taken over.

Holy Shit.... You're right...It just changed before my eyes.......

[burrben]

I got a lady that said it was "Older Listeners" that called and complained.... nothing about a contract....Then she hung up on me when I said "Why don't you tell them about channel blocking or how to change the channel?"

we should get her fired for being rude

[Furtherman]

Look, I just got off the phone with somebody at XM and I wanted to tell you all first:



O&A have been tapped to succeed Tony Blair as Prime Minister of England.

Norton will be the Earl Of Sandwich.

[Midkiff]

Yeah, so fuck E-Lo and his waffling cowardice. If he had integrity he shoulda WALKED for this.

[lleeder]

I'm trying to read every post in here but the pages keep flying up. I couldn't believe the supension went down today. Does anyone know exactly wh was said yesterday that joked aout the situation? If anything the show seemed very mellow and even ended early.

[sailor]

Look, I just got off the phone with somebody at XM and I wanted to tell you all first:



O&A have been tapped to succeed Tony Blair as Prime Minister of England.

Norton will be the Earl Of Sandwich.

word from cnn, o&a will be taking the reins on the first manned mission to mars.

[angrymissy]

I want to show support of O&A, but I also support R&F.

We will take the 1 month credit to show we don't support the suspension of O&A.

[sailor]

Yeah, so fuck E-Lo and his waffling cowardice. If he had integrity he shoulda WALKED for this.

literally crazy talk. i expected more from a tech mod.

[ScottFromGA]

:lol:

this whole situation has me scared...Friday...will you hold me?

[TjM]

Worse comes to worse we still have Ants podcast. Or Ron and Fez featuring Tony Coomya

[Peeps]

Exactly Gvac.

They simply said the current enviornment as far as radio is concerned is out of control. If O&A are really fired, as the rumors state, I can only hope they spend a least a month destroying XM on FM. XM is nothing but cowards in suits. Their top draw gets blasted in the media over nothing and instead of allowing them to intelligently defend themselves, as they did, they are forced to stay silent. Way to stand up for your employees.

The merger was never going to happen anyway. I hope XM gets a lot of Oprah subscribers, because their music channels suck ass.

[EliSnow]

I'm trying to read every post in here but the pages keep flying up. I couldn't believe the supension went down today. Does anyone know exactly wh was said yesterday that joked aout the situation? If anything the show seemed very mellow and even ended early.

There is a link here to orbitcast.com somewhere. I listened to it, and I don't think they joked about the situation, and truthfully, expected to hear something really bad.

[lleeder]

I wonder if FreeFm type stations that broadcast O&A will try to take advantage of this situation to bash satellite radio? Who would think something is on free radio but suspended from satellite. I feel like an era is over.

[ScottFromGA]

Look, I just got off the phone with somebody at XM and I wanted to tell you all first:



O&A have been tapped to succeed Tony Blair as Prime Minister of England.

Norton will be the Earl Of Sandwich.

:laugh: Sandwich? FUCK IM HUNGRY!!!!!

[johnniewalker]

Ewww,

NoFilterPaul Today, 03:30 PM
This is 100% confirmed from another VERY reliable source, they are off XM for good

[MadMatt]

Yeah, so fuck E-Lo and his waffling cowardice. If he had integrity he shoulda WALKED for this.

Yeah, put the livelihood of his wife and childern in jeopardy. That's always a good move.

All things being equal, E-Lo is a suit. They do what they have to do. He probably stuck up for O&A but the higher-ups made the call.

[Midkiff]

literally crazy talk. i expected more from a tech mod.

:lol:

[hfs1103]

I'm with angrymissy, I like o&a but Ron and Fez are enough for me to keep the service. I'll take whatever credit they offer.

[Midkiff]

Yeah, put the livelihood of his wife and childern in jeopardy. That's always a good move.

All things being equal, E-Lo is a suit. They do what they have to do. He probably stuck up for O&A but the higher-ups made the call.

Fuck that. You have values or you don't. Strikers need to feed their families too.

[Midkiff]

Ewww,

NoFilterPaul Today, 03:30 PM
This is 100% confirmed from another VERY reliable source, they are off XM for good

fuck

[NYHCmikeX]

Fuck that. You have values or you don't. Strikers need to feed their families too.

Thats such a stupid thing to say. E-Lo isnt going to quit his job because his friends/co-workers got in trouble.

[Midkiff]

shut the hell up

stop being a message board baby

this is about o&a

I have kids too, genius.

[Bob Impact]

shut the hell up

stop being a message board baby

this is about o&a

I have kids too, genius.

Oh Dead GOD YOU DO?!?!?!?!

j/k.:bye:

[johnniewalker]

Alright im tapping out, good night I've lost faith in the world.

NoFilterPaul Today, 03:36 PM
Quote:
"Originally Posted by PSU MIKE
Paul,

who is it, tell us who is confirming"

i was asked not to post who, but i've no reason to lie to you people, nor has Zag or Doug, or anyone else at this point

[EliSnow]

Thats such a stupid thing to say. E-Lo isnt going to quit his job because his friends/co-workers got in trouble.

Exactly. Ron and Fez didn't leave WNEW when O&A originally got canned. If the rumors are true, and it happens again, I don't expect them to leave XM either.

[Midkiff]

Oh Dead GOD YOU DO?!?!?!?!

j/k.:bye:

:lol:

My spawn walk the earth!

[WilmingtonWOW]

Yeah, put the livelihood of his wife and childern in jeopardy. That's always a good move.

All things being equal, E-Lo is a suit. They do what they have to do. He probably stuck up for O&A but the higher-ups made the call.

Yeah, I am sure he fought hard for the boys. I am sure this came from the higher ups
He needs to take care of his family. the boys wouldnt want him to quit

[Hottub]

Ewww,

NoFilterPaul Today, 03:30 PM
This is 100% confirmed from another VERY reliable source, they are off XM for good

Fuck Me!!!!

[Midkiff]

I wonder what working at XM will be like once it all sounds like Muzak.

[NYHCmikeX]

shut the hell up

stop being a message board baby

this is about o&a

I have kids too, genius.

I'm being rational. Not a baby. You have kids, Ok. Would you quit your job if your friends fucked up and got themselves in trouble? I'm also willing to bet your job doesnt pay as well as E-Lo's.

[Midkiff]

No, but I would quit when my company proves their disloyalty and worthlessness. I have done it before, and been a whistleblower before. Fuck that. There are scrupulous companies out there that would love to have an ethical and loyal employee. I am equally furious in support of a good and ethical company.

[mikeyboy]

shut the hell up

stop being a message board baby

this is about o&a

I have kids too, genius.

Knock it off.

[Deluxomatic]

I have canceled my subscription to XM and will not be sighning up again after O&A come back. I like the Ron and Fez much more than O&A anymore, but I have a hard time justifying paying for a service so willing to sacrifice freedom of speech.

I can catch up on R&F on various underground networks, so fuck XM. I encourage you all to cancel as well.

[angrymissy]

I have canceled my subscription to XM and will not be sighning up again after O&A come back. I like the Ron and Fez much more than O&A anymore, but I have a hard time justifying paying for a service so willing to sacrifice freedom of speech.

I can catch up on R&F on various underground networks, so fuck XM. I encourage you all to cancel as well.

And no one seems to understand - you cancel XM and listen to R&F through torrents or other means, and you are DIRECTLY FUCKING THE RON AND FEZ SHOW.

[JPMNICK]

I have canceled my subscription to XM and will not be sighning up again after O&A come back. I like the Ron and Fez much more than O&A anymore, but I have a hard time justifying paying for a service so willing to sacrifice freedom of speech.

I can catch up on R&F on various underground networks, so fuck XM. I encourage you all to cancel as well.

why do people keep talking about these underground ways to listen

1) it sayd fuck you in writing to XM and R&F
2) it motivates XM to find these places and remove them.
3) this is not the time, or place, to talk about other ways to get the R&F show.

[Hottub]

And no one seems to understand - you cancel XM and listen to R&F through torrents or other means, and you are DIRECTLY FUCKING THE RON AND FEZ SHOW.


Agreed 100%. If you want to cancel, that is your choice. But you should be prepared for only FreeFm, or nothing at all. Stealing from the buddays is reprehensible!

[oldmangimper]

O and A's picture just changed to the mic on my Inno.

[burrben]

Opie & Anthony Update



As you know, XM has suspended Opie & Anthony and ceased all broadcast of The Opie & Anthony Show on The Virus - XM 202 for 30 days, effective May 15, 2007.

Last Wednesday, Opie and Anthony made statements on their show that were deplorable. They issued an apology that day, but comments they made on their May 14th broadcast called into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter. We give our on air talent creative freedom, however we expect them to take this responsibility seriously.

In the meantime, Ron & Fez will air in place of The O&A Show on XM 202.

[JPMNICK]

www.opieandanthony.com is still reporting suspension, not firing

[Servo]

Does anyone have any idea what was supposedly said yesterday that they're claiming is the reason for the suspension?

[Peeps]

None of this adds up. Why would XM announce a suspension and fire them two hours later? A company would usually suspend an employee before firing them to conduct research into the matter. Do they put themselves in an actionable position? How does it affect the bottom line? Does it affect morale? I have a hard time believing the cadre of incompetents running XM (look at the financials) could come to conclusion so quickly and fire them, not because of the comment, but because of a percieved "slap in the face".

The media stopped paying attention last week. The story was over. As long as O&A were respectful in responding to the issue, there should not have been a problem. I found their argument to be very compelling. They stated their case and moved on. Could the XM officials really be that upset with what they said?

Maybe XM didn't want their headline act to be "shock jocks". Maybe Oprah made a call. Maybe they they are as stupid as their bottom line suggests. Maybe it is to garner good-will.

Whatever it is, it simply makes no sense, business or otherwise.

[JPMNICK]

Does anyone have any idea what was supposedly said yesterday that they're claiming is the reason for the suspension?

they were not supposed to mention it, and they did. it was not what was said, just that something was said. XM said they violated a contract, and action was taken.

[STC-Dub]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY


The guy at XM , when I called to ask for credit for my 2 radios said:


That Opie & Anthony were not suspended from XM for 30 days for what they said last week.

He said they were specifically suspended because they broke a contract between the boys and XM on NOT MENTIONING THE INCIDENT. They broke that contract and that is the REASON WHY they were suspended. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A FREE SEECH ISSUE or the incident itself.

And he said they will be back on in 30 days or less. He also said that soon there will be news on the actually website explaining this issue in the next couple of days.


It sounds like BS to me. Why would there be a contract not to discuss something that happened last week? Why would O&A have any reason to agree not to talk about the segment? Both sides need to get something out of a contract, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't see what O&A would get from signing said contract.

[Fat_Sunny]

No, but I would quit when my company proves their disloyalty and worthlessness. I have done it before, and been a whistleblower before. Fuck that. There are scrupulous companies out there that would love to have an ethical and loyal employee. I am equally furious in support of a good and ethical company.

Snitches Get Stitches.
Talkers Get Walkers.

RB

[Gvac]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

[furie]

explain the point of XM of the commercial radio content restrictions still apply on a paid service?!

i'm sending a letter to XM

[WilmingtonWOW]

an earlier post said that an XM operator said they were suspened for discussing the matter yesterday, whne XM told them not to discuss it, not because of the R*** comment.

so its ok to talk about R***, but don't disobey your boss's comands?

[nassue]

And no one seems to understand - you cancel XM and listen to R&F through torrents or other means, and you are DIRECTLY FUCKING THE RON AND FEZ SHOW.

i second the motion
i enjoy op and ant but i'm obsessed with Ron and Fez
i don't want to steal the show and take money out of the pockets of the buddays
in fact i usually put freefm on during ronandfez in the evenings even though i have to turn the sound down since my stepdaughter is usually watching some stupid cartoon
but i still play it just so i know i'm supporting the buddays

When there were talks of ron and fez being taken off of xm was prepared to cancel
but i love the buddies i'm not going to get rid of my xm when my favorite show is still airing everyday

i support free speech and opie anthony but i'm not going to show support by fucking over ron and fez

[MrTwister]

i just called and got a credit for one month to my account because i told them i won't pay until O&A are back on.

That is horseshit.. I've got 6 radios and was thinking about picking up
another.. I'm going to call and ask for a credit for all my subs..

[johnniewalker]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

There is a reason i've been a gvac fan since day 1.

[J.Clints]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

I am with you G done

[ChimneyFish]

#1 - Ron & Fez are still going to get paid

#2 - GVAC's right. If you don't stand up now, you might as well lay there and take it for the rest of your life.

[empulse]

CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO XM IMMEDIATELY. The only thing these fuckers understand is money. Having a shitload of Subs dump out of their service in one day(or day) will send them a message. Do it for just one week even. Speak the only language they know. I would not hurt ron an fez in the slightest... and would make a statement.


thats just my over reaching reactionary 2 cents. I am still debating... I may cancel my Radios just to protest.

[mikeyboy]

The new XM schedule grid (http://www.xmradio.com/pdf/the_virus_grid.pdf)

[JPMNICK]

if 10,000 subs cancel, that is an immediate loss of around 100,000k per month, or 1.2MILLION dollors for the next year. that is a massive amount of money to take off the bottom line of a company who is struggling to gain profitablity. it will be even worse if for some reason they have to pay out the remainder of O&A contract

[WilmingtonWOW]

CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO XM IMMEDIATELY. The only thing these fuckers understand is money. Having a shitload of Subs dump out of their service in one day(or day) will send them a message. Do it for just one week even. Speak the only language they know. I would not hurt ron an fez in the slightest... and would make a statement.


thats just my over reaching reactionary 2 cents. I am still debating... I may cancel my Radios just to protest.

If they are fired, I need to hear a reaction from Ronnie tomorrow.

[JPMNICK]

The new XM schedule grid (http://www.xmradio.com/pdf/the_virus_grid.pdf)

wow that was quick.

[lleeder]

The new XM schedule grid (http://www.xmradio.com/pdf/the_virus_grid.pdf)

When can I catch a replay?

[waltermitty]

The new XM schedule grid (http://www.xmradio.com/pdf/the_virus_grid.pdf)


Jeez---I wanted big ass 203 but this is not cool.......

[WilmingtonWOW]

The new XM schedule grid (http://www.xmradio.com/pdf/the_virus_grid.pdf)

first base - bugs bunny, 2nd base bugs bunny, short stop - bugs bunny, etc.....

[empulse]

iam on the phone with XM righgt now, seems threat of cancel is getting to them woman i am speaking to says they have had 6k in cancels... call them.. they are trying to keep me from canceling with all there might.. CALL IMMEDIATE PRESURE neede!!

[Mafialife Chris]

I have 2 XM radios. I am cancelling one of them right now. I will keep the other for now only because of Ron and Fez.

Even with the firing now, i will not cancel. Ron and Fez is my first radio choice always. If they go, then my Xm is gone!!

[vashawn]

I've had XM since the first day O&A returned. It really hurts to dump my subscription because Ron and Fez are my favorite show on XM but this is something that must be done. This is the beginning of the end if the fans don’t make a real stand. I’m fearful the buddies are next. Later XM.

[Mafialife Chris]

Snitches Get Stitches.
Talkers Get Walkers.

RB

Im hurt!!

[Mafialife Chris]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

I truly agree with you also, BUT.. how else would we get The Buddays "LIVE"?
Honestly, its not about not wanting to strike, i been to 5 rallies so far, and will always fight for free speech/no censorship with P.A.C.
But i need the buddays "LIVE"!!

[johnniewalker]

slimp flied lice = worst slur ever...

[TooLowBrow]

http://www.xmradio.com/contact_us/customer_support.jsp

[Heather 8]

Even with the firing now, i will not cancel. Ron and Fez is my first radio choice always. If they go, then my Xm is gone!!

With today's sensitive-as-a-swollen-clit environment, they'll be (unjustly) gone soon enough.
:furious:

[BalzacWB]

I cant believe there are people who think if we cancel it hurts RnF... as long as they are on contract they get paid regardless if they broadcast to 10 people or 5 million.


As far as hearing them....SYNDICATION UNDERGROUND

[vashawn]

I cant believe there are people who think if we cancel it hurts RnF... as long as they are on contract they get paid regardless if they broadcast to 10 people or 5 million.


As far as hearing them....SYNDICATION UNDERGROUND

Seriously. It was tough for me to do but my mindset is pay the price for a few weeks and take a stand, or deal with the Ron and Fez show changing forever (being censored, kicked off the air or the being limited in what they can broadcast).

[ChimneyFish]

I cant believe there are people who think if we cancel it hurts RnF... as long as they are on contract they get paid regardless if they broadcast to 10 people or 5 million.


As far as hearing them....SYNDICATION UNDERGROUND



Exactly.
Plus, how "fun" do you think the Ron & Fez show is going to be when Ronny knows that, when he brings in a guest/listener/etc. , that the company does not have his back in the least????

[MrTwister]

sweet jesus i didn't think about that!

I thought about it, and was wondering if they'd play
older R&F shows, and not just the current shows.
And maybe someone will mix it up a bit and not have
the same 4 shows on over and over and over and over..

What time will the first run of the R&F show be, will
it still be at their 12:00 EST slot?

[NYHCmikeX]

I still dont think O&A are fired. Doesnt XM give permission to CBS to broadcast O&A? Ron said on the Free FM show that O&A WILL BE LIVE tomorrow at 6. At least we should get some answers then.

[Sixpak]

Sorry Ron and Fez luv you guys and Fezzy take care of yourself, but I'm cancelling as I'm writing this, see you in 30 days.........maybe

I also listen to a lot of other channels but felt this was nessecery.

I just got through to xm and was told about the 30 day credit, I refused it. The woman I talked to said they have had about 68000 cancellations so far.

FUCK XM

[Febreeze]

I'm in sales and in my vehicle most of the day. I'm a huge fan of O&A and even bigger R&F fan. It kills me to drop my 3 XM subs, but I can't agree with GVAC enough. If people can't see the big picture here, I don't know what to tell you.

Sometimes you have to suffer to be heard, and XM should be ashamed of themselves for bowing to these self serving jack off special interest groups.

It will kill me to not hear R&F Live everyday, but fuck XM. I'm calling as we speak.

[Lillibaby]

How can O & A be so popular yet so powerless????

[mikeyboy]

I cant believe there are people who think if we cancel it hurts RnF... as long as they are on contract they get paid regardless if they broadcast to 10 people or 5 million.


As far as hearing them....SYNDICATION UNDERGROUND

I'm thinking long term. At the end of their contract, if they've lost enough 202 listeners, R&F won't get renewed. If that's what they want, fine, but until I get some indication of that, I won't cancel.

[davidb72]

I am very disappointed in your decision to suspend Opie and Anthony. I enjoy listening to XM for the uncensored content. The style of humor that O&A perform really needs an uncensored platform to be effective and I thought XM provided them such a platform.

I would like to see you rescind the suspension immediately. If you are unwilling to do that I would like a months refund on my account for the four (4) XM radio subscriptions that I currently have. If you are unable or unwilling to do that I will be forced to cancel all four subscriptions and will go out of my way to encourage others to do so as well.

In addition to that I will spend time campaigning against the XM-Sirius merger because it is apparent that there is no alternative in the marketplace if the merger was to take place.

Thank you for your time, I hope you find the courage to stand behind your on air personalities. Popular speech doesn't need protection, unpopular speech does.

[Your name here]

PS... I really think it is unfair to ask Ron and Fez to carry the station for the month. I'm not sure if you were aware of it, but Fez just got out of the hospital and might not be in the best shape for this.

[lleeder]

I'm thinking long term. At the end of their contract, if they've lost enough 202 listeners, R&F won't get renewed. If that's what they want, fine, but until I get some indication of that, I won't cancel.

I have to follow Mikey. If they aren't broadcasting to anyone why would XM pay them to do a show? We need to support Ron and Fez. If I see them blink I'm out.

[Bama]

I'm thinking long term. At the end of their contract, if they've lost enough 202 listeners, R&F won't get renewed. If that's what they want, fine, but until I get some indication of that, I won't cancel.

Couldn't agree more, mikeyboy.

[FezsAssHairClippings]

I sent XM a email- hope it irritates them just because they have to go through and delete it. I hope O&A are not fired- this situation is actually starting to scare me--how far are 'THEY' going to go before someone stops this Constitutional burning.
I had just re-upped with XM for three years- at least i'll still have Ronnie and Fezzie to listen to...

[angrymissy]

Again - "SYNDICATION UNDERGROUND" is fucking over Ron and Fez in the long run.

[PhishHead]

Dugout Doug jsut reported on FBA that they are fired.

[nassue]

i agree with mikeyboy as well

and as far as the getting a paycheck wether they have 10 listeners or 5 million ... yeah they might get paid.... for a couple months.... maybe
if you don't have listeners you don't keep your show.... dummy

[angrymissy]

Someone (PAC perhaps) - needs to organize a BIG protest if that is true.

I'm talking hundreds of people outside XM.

[K.C.]

I can't believe that people think we automatically are obligated to cancel our subscriptions because of this.

No offense to O&A...I know they have very passionate fans, and I DO think they're getting a raw deal, but I would never cancel because I support Ron & Fez all the way and they're still on XM.

I can appreciate they efforts, but I don't need to read 800 times 'we all need to cancel immediately.'

That's definitely not going to happen.

[ChimneyFish]

Couldn't agree more, mikeyboy.

i agree with mikeyboy as well

and as far as the getting a paycheck wether they have 10 listeners or 5 million ... yeah they might get paid.... for a couple months.... maybe
if you don't have listeners you don't keep your show.... dummy


And maybe, if you keep your show, you get fired next week for something a homeless man said.

[PhishHead]

Someone (PAC perhaps) - needs to organize a BIG protest if that is true.

I'm talking hundreds of people outside XM.

Doug said it came from the highest source possible, I dont know how trusted he can be, but I am just relaying what was posted.

[Doogie]

Unfortunatly, you are telling people that at time when the riot is in full crescendo. People will not listen to reason or logic at this stage of the game. People are either going to stick with XM or they are not. And once again Ron and Fez will be the victims in the middle.

[mikeyboy]

And maybe, if you keep your show, you get fired next week for something a homeless man said.

Trust me, as I posted in the cancellation thread, I'm well aware of all of the repurcussions there are against R&F in the O&A "suspension/firing". I'm just not willing to work directly against the careers of R&F unless I get some indication that they are okay with or encourage that.

[davidb72]

Just got this back...

I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE WITH LIMITED E-MAIL ACCESS. I WILL BE RETURNING NO LATER THAN MONDAY MAY 18--. IF URGENT-- PLEASE TRY KERRY DUNN AT 202 380 4384--OR IF IT'S IN REGARD TO ARTIST CONFIDENTIAL, PLEASE EMAIL JAYME.KARP@XMRAIO.COM OTHERWISE, PLEASE REACH OUT ON OR AFTER THE 18TH

LEE

[Snoogans]

Seriously. It was tough for me to do but my mindset is pay the price for a few weeks and take a stand, or deal with the Ron and Fez show changing forever (being censored, kicked off the air or the being limited in what they can broadcast).

what exactly would "paying the price for a few weeks" do. If you meant cancel for the 1 month suspension which means they are fired, that still is dumb. All that tells XM is that you are mad OnA were off.

THIS ISNT ABOUT OnA! This isn't about Ron and Fez either. This is about the fact that we pay the company money every month so we can listen to whatever we want, no matter what it is. And then they go and censor anything. I would be just as pissed if they were cancelling say ellen or anyone else shitty for the same reason. I pay to not have censorship, so I'm not gonna pay for nothing. If it means I can't hear Ron and Fez ever on XM then so be it, cause they are on FM and because it doesn't matter, XM doesn't deserve your money

[JPMNICK]

Trust me, as I posted in the cancellation thread, I'm well aware of all of the repurcussions there are against R&F in the O&A "suspension/firing". I'm just not willing to work directly against the careers of R&F unless I get some indication that they are okay with or encourage that.

i think that is a great point.

[ChimneyFish]

Trust me, as I posted in the cancellation thread, I'm well aware of all of the repurcussions there are against R&F in the O&A "suspension/firing". I'm just not willing to work directly against the careers of R&F unless I get some indication that they are okay with or encourage that.



I completely understand that.
I have not cancelled my 2 subs yet.(Mainly because I don't feel like waiting on hold for 2 hours)
I will take the next day or two to see what the deal really is.
But, as much as I love the show, I don't think it's very smart for me to pay $20 a month to hear 3 hours of programming. I don't listen to anything besides 202. I don't like "mixes" of music. If I want to listen to music, I listen to the whole album. I used to listen to the sports talk and comedy channels, but I got bored of them.

[nassue]

And maybe, if you keep your show, you get fired next week for something a homeless man said.

it's not surprising that o and a got in trouble with the bbbbboys it's pretty normal attire
but i haven't seen to much controversy as far as the buddays

plus it's not like we didn't have a little bit of a runway as far as the opieandanthony situation is concerned

if it happens with Ron and Fez we're gonna know before they yank them
and if they do then xm can go fuck itself

don't get me wrong i don't think this cool or right or deserved
it's just not effecting the show that i listen to

i'm sorry man i turn off oanda all the time but i listen to ronandfez as much as possible

[Snoogans]

I can't believe that people think we automatically are obligated to cancel our subscriptions because of this.

No offense to O&A...I know they have very passionate fans, and I DO think they're getting a raw deal, but I would never cancel because I support Ron & Fez all the way and they're still on XM.

I can appreciate they efforts, but I don't need to read 800 times 'we all need to cancel immediately.'

That's definitely not going to happen.

Maybe you should cancel because XM is robbing your money. THIS IS BASICALLY A FUCKIN CRIME

[BalzacWB]

i agree with mikeyboy as well

and as far as the getting a paycheck wether they have 10 listeners or 5 million ... yeah they might get paid.... for a couple months.... maybe
if you don't have listeners you don't keep your show.... dummy

its called a contract... the can be fired BUT they still get paid... dummy




BTW... Doug, zag and no filter paul have posted that OnA HAVE been FIRED from XM



If your going to do the right thing, do it now

[mikeyboy]

I completely understand that.
I have not cancelled my 2 subs yet.(Mainly because I don't feel like waiting on hold for 2 hours)
I will take the next day or two to see what the deal really is.
But, as much as I love the show, I don't think it's very smart for me to pay $20 a month to hear 3 hours of programming. I don't listen to anything besides 202. I don't like "mixes" of music. If I want to listen to music, I listen to the whole album. I used to listen to the sports talk and comedy channels, but I got bored of them.

That's an economic decision. That's something an assessment that everyone should make. If the XM service is no longer worth the money you are paying for it, you should definitely cancel.

[Snoogans]

I cancelled my XM before I even heard anything about firing. I wouldn't pay for HBO anymore if they stopped airing Entourage cause of the content, I won't pay for XM since they are doin the same thing. Anyone who continues to pay for it the company is just sitting there laughing at.

[Bossanova]

I am with you G done

With my boys. Cancelled 3 today

[K.C.]

Maybe you should cancel because XM is robbing your money. THIS IS BASICALLY A FUCKIN CRIME

Like I said, I appreciate people being pissed off because they're passionate fans of the show...but I'm not doing anything that would compromise support of Ron & Fez.

[Heather 8]

On hold 38 minutes and counting...

[ChimneyFish]

That's an economic decision. That's something an assessment that everyone should make. If the XM service is no longer worth the money you are paying for it, you should definitely cancel.

And I am willing to pay that for Ron & Fez, but, by firing O&A, XM has showed me it doesn't care about being "uncensored" or backing it's talent.

[RoyMunson]

What did they say??

[MadMatt]

its called a contract... the can be fired BUT they still get paid... dummy

BTW... Doug, zag and no filter paul have posted that OnA HAVE been FIRED from XM

If your going to do the right thing, do it now

But they haven't provided sources yet. If they O&A are fired, then why not say it outright? The damage has already been done.

I know - I'm being grumpy. But this is the WORST Birthday I can remember.

[midwestjeff]

i loved the homeless charlie bit and it never occured to me that it was about to start a shitstorm. i can only hope that O and A have a master plan that we don't see, they do know radio more than us, right? i am fucking destroyed by their suspension, it ruins my day as i drive a delivery route for a living and they make my job 100% better. I can only hope that they are working behind the scenes to once again win in the end.

[Snoogans]

Like I said, I appreciate people being pissed off because they're passionate fans of the show...but I'm not doing anything that would compromise support of Ron & Fez.

can you read. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONA. it has to do with the fact that you are paying for something you are no longer gettin as a whole. Would you pay a rental car company if they gave you a car that didn't work?

That's pretty much what this is. All shows aside, you are paying a company that works on the principal that you pay so you can hear anything you want, and then the company you pay doesn't let you hear anything you want.

[angrymissy]

can you read. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONA. it has to do with the fact that you are paying for something you are no longer gettin as a whole. Would you pay a rental car company if they gave you a car that didn't work?

That's pretty much what this is. All shows aside, you are paying a company that works on the principal that you pay so you can hear anything you want, and then the company you pay doesn't let you hear anything you want.

Yes, but I'm really paying for Ron and Fez (and my guilty pleasure, the E channel), so they haven't taken away what I pay for yet. If they do, then fuck XM, I'll cancel.

[Midkiff]

But they haven't provided sources yet. If they O&A are fired, then why not say it outright? The damage has already been done.

I know - I'm being grumpy. But this is the WORST Birthday I can remember.

Birthday? Happy birthday!

[BalzacWB]

But they haven't provided sources yet. If they O&A are fired, then why not say it outright? The damage has already been done.

I know - I'm being grumpy. But this is the WORST Birthday I can remember.

if 68000 have cancelled so far (that the number i heard) how many you think would've cancelled outright if XM just came out and said they are fired.

They are saying suspension to try and keep us for 30 days and hope you decide you cant live without your xm.



Listen I love ron and fez but this is bullshit... torrents and newsgroups are the way to go.
Besides how long till RnF 'fuck' up somehow....

[J.Clints]

I cant get on WB or FBA right now.

[Snoogans]

Yes, but I'm really paying for Ron and Fez (and my guilty pleasure, the E channel), so they haven't taken away what I pay for yet. If they do, then fuck XM, I'll cancel.
i get that, but still, this goes against what the company claimed to be founded on. I just can't keep payin a company that would fuck customers like that

[angrymissy]

if 68000 have cancelled so far (that the number i heard) how many you think would've cancelled outright if XM just came out and said they are fired.

They are saying suspension to try and keep us for 30 days and hope you decide you cant live without your xm.



Listen I love ron and fez but this is bullshit... torrents and newsgroups are the way to go.
Besides how long till RnF 'fuck' up somehow....

No - Torrents are NOT the way to go. Unless you like stealing from Ron and Fez. Because that is what you are doing if you download their subscription only show.

[ChimneyFish]

But they haven't provided sources yet. If they O&A are fired, then why not say it outright? The damage has already been done.

I know - I'm being grumpy. But this is the WORST Birthday I can remember.

Fuck.
This would make for a shitty birthday. Sorry to hear that.

And like I said, I'm waiting to see some "official" news.,(Ant posting on Wackbag, the O&A site posting it,etc.)

[nassue]

you know
i gotta say i don't think this is so much about censorship
as much as it's about O&A fucking with their bosses

fucking up the merger
speaking about the incident
(although i never heard them speak about it)

on the surface this seems like more of an internal power struggle between O&A and their bosses

[J.Clints]

No - Torrents are NOT the way to go. Unless you like stealing from Ron and Fez. Because that is what you are doing if you download their subscription only show.

LIsten We are supporting O and A if it were the other way what would you do. This is our right.

[mikeyboy]

Obviously, everyone is very passionate about this. Also, not everyone sees eye to eye on everything. Ultimately, we're all on the same side, so please maintain civility when dealing with each other on these issues.

[MadMatt]

Birthday? Happy birthday!

Thanks JD. Unfortunately it is not happy day...

[Snoogans]

I personally think this firing has nothing much to do with what they said. For some reason, and this is only based on my hunch, I think in the merger talks, Mel said if OnA stay with XM they wont merge or something to that effect. And XM have just been looking for a reason since. Cause this just doesn't make any fuckin sense.

[J.Clints]

With my boys. Cancelled 3 today

Hey budday this shit sucks HUH

[BalzacWB]

No - Torrents are NOT the way to go. Unless you like stealing from Ron and Fez. Because that is what you are doing if you download their subscription only show.

we are gonna have to agree to disagree... because like it or not thats how a large portion of us are gonna get our RnF xm fix.

[J.Clints]

Obviously, everyone is very passionate about this. Also, not everyone sees eye to eye on everything. Ultimately, we're all on the same side, so please maintain civility when dealing with each other on these issues.

I agree MB

[midwestjeff]

But they haven't provided sources yet. If they O&A are fired, then why not say it outright? The damage has already been done.

I know - I'm being grumpy. But this is the WORST Birthday I can remember.

me too. i was having my first good birthday since i got old (over 25) and then this shit goes down. fuck you xm. this is my day , and madmatt's too.

[J.Clints]

we are gonna have to agree to disagree... because like it or not thats how a large portion of us are gonna get our RnF xm fix.

correct. I hate it for RF but if it were the other way I would do the same.

[K.C.]

can you read. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONA. it has to do with the fact that you are paying for something you are no longer gettin as a whole. Would you pay a rental car company if they gave you a car that didn't work?

That's pretty much what this is. All shows aside, you are paying a company that works on the principal that you pay so you can hear anything you want, and then the company you pay doesn't let you hear anything you want.

That's a comment based on speculation.

It seems you believe that they were suspended because of the Condeleeza Rice thing.

I haven't seen anything to suggest THAT REASON is why they were suspended. If anything, it appears from the info we have that they were suspended because XM asked them to move on and not discuss it because they wanted to keep it in-house company business and they refused the company's wishes about it.

If it was about the Condeleeza Rice comment, then you'd definitely have a point...but honestly no one knows that's the truth.

And if it's like it appears to me, that the fact they didn't let it go is why they were suspended, then, yeah, it sucks, but that's about not respecting their employer's wishes...not censorship.

So I don't buy the 'XM is censoring their content' thing...at least, yet.

[ChimneyFish]

Obviously, everyone is very passionate about this. Also, not everyone sees eye to eye on everything. Ultimately, we're all on the same side, so please maintain civility when dealing with each other on these issues.



Agreed.

There's no reason for this to turn into a "civil war" between fans who prefer one show over the other.

Now I have to get off of this computer, before I put my head through the screen.

Goodnight, all.
May tomorrow be a better day.

[feralBoy]

if 68000 have cancelled so far (that the number i heard) how many you think would've cancelled outright if XM just came out and said they are fired.

They are saying suspension to try and keep us for 30 days and hope you decide you cant live without your xm.



Listen I love ron and fez but this is bullshit... torrents and newsgroups are the way to go.
Besides how long till RnF 'fuck' up somehow....

68,000 seems like a rather large number for just a few hours. I don't know if I buy that. Where did you hear that number?

[Heather 8]

The woman at XM is claiming that they are suspended, not fired. She's not letting me get a word in edgewise.

[Heather 8]

Ha, finally got them to cancel. "Get off the script, dear" works wonders.

[PhishHead]

That's a comment based on speculation.

It seems you believe that they were suspended because of the Condeleeza Rice thing.

I haven't seen anything to suggest THAT REASON is why they were suspended. If anything, it appears from the info we have that they were suspended because XM asked them to move on and not discuss it because they wanted to keep it in-house company business and they refused the company's wishes about it.

If it was about the Condeleeza Rice comment, then you'd definitely have a point...but honestly no one knows that's the truth.

And if it's like it appears to me, that the fact they didn't let it go is why they were suspended, then, yeah, it sucks, but that's about not respecting their employer's wishes...not censorship.

So I don't buy the 'XM is censoring their content' thing...at least, yet.

Maybe its just me, but telling them to let it go and not talk about it, is censorship.

[BalzacWB]

That's a comment based on speculation.

It seems you believe that they were suspended because of the Condeleeza Rice thing.

I haven't seen anything to suggest THAT REASON is why they were suspended. If anything, it appears from the info we have that they were suspended because XM asked them to move on and not discuss it because they wanted to keep it in-house company business and they refused the company's wishes about it.

If it was about the Condeleeza Rice comment, then you'd definitely have a point...but honestly no one knows that's the truth.

And if it's like it appears to me, that the fact they didn't let it go is why they were suspended, then, yeah, it sucks, but that's about not respecting their employer's wishes...not censorship.

So I don't buy the 'XM is censoring their content' thing...at least, yet.


Xm cant say the suspension in due to the rice thing because then they are admitting they censor their UNCENSORED talk.


Is it hard to believe that a huge company would lie to their consumers???

[MadMatt]

No - Torrents are NOT the way to go. Unless you like stealing from Ron and Fez. Because that is what you are doing if you download their subscription only show.

To be technical about it, you are stealing from XM. Ron & Fez have a contract that will be paid regardless.

It may suck in the long run in terms of #s, but that's a bridge to burn later...

[Midkiff]

it appears from the info we have that they were suspended because XM asked them to move on and not discuss it because they wanted to keep it in-house company business and they refused the company's wishes about it.

Asking somebody not to talk about something is censorship, no matter the reason.

[BalzacWB]

68,000 seems like a rather large number for just a few hours. I don't know if I buy that. Where did you hear that number?

wackbag/fba... supposedly a rep at xm told someone as they were cancelling that XM has been bombarded all day today, and that was the number they threw out.


Like I said, thats the number I heard... and its 68000 subs not people... since most of us have multiple subs

[nassue]

I personally think this firing has nothing much to do with what they said. For some reason, and this is only based on my hunch, I think in the merger talks, Mel said if OnA stay with XM they wont merge or something to that effect. And XM have just been looking for a reason since. Cause this just doesn't make any fuckin sense.

it doesn't make any fucking sense

why would they pull them from xm due to content but not freefm
i realize the comment was on xm but it doesn't change the fact that it happened on the O&A show

none of the sponsors are pulling out
i mean i don't know that for certain because i'm not directly involved but why the fuck would pornotube or any of the others pull the plug because of that?

[BalzacWB]

To be technical about it, you are stealing from XM. Ron & Fez have a contract that will be paid regardless.

It may suck in the long run in terms of #s, but that's a bridge to burn later...



exactly!!!


If i cancel they lose a listener in their column anyway... so how the hell am I talking away from RnF if I'm not being counted due to cancelling.


If I hear them or dont on torrents Im still not being counted as a listener

[Tommy the bass player]

Asking somebody not to talk about something is censorship, no matter the reason.

you win the prize.


I am also in the "if this happened to R & F, I would be doing the same thing" boat.
this is supposed to be uncensored talk radio. that's the way XM sold it to me on every single commercial I heard.
it isn't, so fuck them.

[MadMatt]

Did the site crash for a while there?

I know my last post won't be that popular, but I'm also the kind of person that doesn't mind sharing music files, watching bootleg movies, and using copied software.

Cancelling your subscription and listening elsewhere will hurt XM, bottom line. Ron & Fez will still have fans and listeners, and there listenership may grow.

[Mista_B]

Are they fired for sure? I cant find it on the web. Anybody got a link to a reliable source?

[reillyluck]

i wont believe it until i officially hear it.

[Mangoat]

I cancelled one of my subs, the other one has a $100 penalty I'd have to pay to cancel it now.. so pay $100 now or $70 over the next few months.... hmm.

They offered me 3 free months to stay, but I denied that, even with the sub I'm forced to keep. I don't want to add to the statistic of the people taking the free subs instead of canceling. Plus I subbed for the buddays and discovered O&A because of them. So I can live with $6.95 a month until January.

[MadMatt]

Are they fired for sure? I cant find it on the web. Anybody got a link to a reliable source?

It's only been posted on fan sites, but it's by people like Zagman and No Filter Paul.

I don't know what to think...

[Mangoat]

Are they fired for sure? I cant find it on the web. Anybody got a link to a reliable source?

With NoFilterPaul as the main source of this rumor, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't only not suspended, but given pay raises and helicopters made of platinum.

[BalzacWB]

I cancelled one of my subs, the other one has a $100 penalty I'd have to pay to cancel it now.. so pay $100 now or $70 over the next few months.... hmm.

They offered me 3 free months to stay, but I denied that, even with the sub I'm forced to keep. I don't want to add to the statistic of the people taking the free subs instead of canceling. Plus I subbed for the buddays and discovered O&A because of them. So I can live with $6.95 a month until January.


whats the 100 $ penalty for??

never heard of that

[cougarjake13]

this is getting fucking ridiculous now

is there a way we can on a massive scale kill all these baby boomers and other fucktards that are interfering in our lives ???

[Hottub]

wrong thread

[Bob Impact]

My friend MrPibb used to pull up to the exact change lane, open the door to pick up the quarters that missed the bucket, and still blow the toll!

Wrong thread, ask a mod to fix that for ya. :thumbup:

[Bulldogcakes]

There is only one way to make XM understand how seriously you take this matter.

SUSPEND YOUR SUBSCRIPTION FOR 30 DAYS.

No O&A, no $ from Steve. I'll listen to FREE-FM, for however long that lasts.

[J.Clints]

Wrong thread, ask a mod to fix that for ya. :thumbup:

:thumbup:

[midwestjeff]

they got the guns but we got the numbers
gonna win yeah we're taking over.

[Mangoat]

whats the 100 $ penalty for??

never heard of that

It was some friends and family thing where I got a free Sportster (a whopping $30 value) but I had to prepay for 6 months and sign a one year contract.

[J.Clints]

Lets john Q this mother fucker

[Bob Impact]

It was some friends and family thing where I got a free Sportster (a whopping $30 value) but I had to prepay for 6 months and sign a one year contract.

You may not want to cancel your Sportster.

[Zuke]

I love Ron and Fez, and never miss a show. However, I can't support a company that is now censoring the "uncensored" XL channels too. To be honest, that was the one thing not available elsewhere. I can get most of the other talk shows on terrestrial, and my iPod has more music than I could ever need. XM has just shit on the one thing that set them apart.

I just cancelled my 2 subscriptions. I will still be able to listen to R&F on my DirecTV feed, but I couldn't stand to reward XM by continuing to pay them.

I would have done the same for Ronnie and Fezzie if the tables had been reversed.

Your Mom's box.

[MadMatt]

whats the 100 $ penalty for??

never heard of that

In some cases, to buy a unit for a discounted price you have to guarantee to keep the service for 3 months, 6 months, etc. or else you owe the amount you got in discount. I'm sure that's the issue he ran into.

EDIT: Aparently he explained it.

[J.Clints]

You may not want to cancel your Sportster.

Everyone just needs to do what they can. I canceled but not everyone can. Guys just do what you can. I am doing my part and hope everyone else is. Will it matter no probley not but it is worth the try. and think it may make for good radio if they come back.

[Mangoat]

You may not want to cancel your Sportster.

Yeah, it's damned if I do, damned if I don't.. it'll keep THE WIFE happy and able to listen to R&F and Fred on the interweb (isn't Fred free on the AOL Radio deal anyway?)..

[crb1]

On the O&A firing rumors...the only place I've seen it posted is on Wackbag by Zagman (the admin and a rather credible source).

However, it was posted at 1 AM. Is that a time stamp error due to PMB, or did he post it last night? If it's accurate, then that post would be wrong.

[celery]

I love Ron and Fez, and never miss a show. However, I can't support a company that is now censoring the "uncensored" XL channels too. To be honest, that was the one thing not available elsewhere. I can get most of the other talk shows on terrestrial, and my iPod has more music than I could ever need. XM has just shit on the one thing that set them apart.

Dead on - everyone should follow this lead.

[Bob Impact]

Everyone just needs to do what they can. I canceled but not everyone can. Guys just do what you can. I am doing my part and hope everyone else is. Will it matter no probley not but it is worth the try. and think it may make for good radio if they come back.

Yeah, it's damned if I do, damned if I don't.. it'll keep THE WIFE happy and able to listen to R&F and Fred on the interweb (isn't Fred free on the AOL Radio deal anyway?)..

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/story_images/sirius_sportster_replay/image
:bye:

[niciggy]

Obviously, everyone is very passionate about this. Also, not everyone sees eye to eye on everything. Ultimately, we're all on the same side, so please maintain civility when dealing with each other on these issues.

Folks-calm down! If R&F were on the hotseat, we'd want all the O&A love we could get....stop squabbling and trying to predict the future.

[J.Clints]

On the O&A firing rumors...the only place I've seen it posted is on Wackbag by Zagman (the admin and a rather credible source).

However, it was posted at 1 AM. Is that a time stamp error due to PMB, or did he post it last night? If it's accurate, then that post would be wrong.

I seen it on another site. Give me a minute and you will have what I seen.

[cozzie]

cancelled 4 of my 5 radios, the only time the 1 will be on will between 12-3pm to listen to the buddays, if they fire O&A this one will be gone too

[J.Clints]

I have just received word that O&A have been FIRED from XM!!!

I was told this by an extremely trusted source, and not an employee/relative of an XM employee.

Get on the phone, cancel your XM. DO NOT take the 30-day credit - CANCEL it! XM will feel that much more on their bottom line than a 30-day dip.

If XM feels the sting of thousands of people canceling their subs, then there is some sort of a chance!

The above info is 100% correct and confirmed by a VERY reliable source, they are off XM for good

Thanks, NFP, I was afraid of that! If you are a long term O&A fan, a "suspension" is a firing eventually, so, they just announced the 30 day suspension to save face, and find some replacement programming.

Again, I am worried how this will affect Ron & Fez. I guess we will find out tomorrow, I am sure they will not be able to discuss it during the FreeFM broadcast tonight.

Very sad day, and I am VERY PISSED OFF!!! :mad::mad::mad:



Here is a post I seen on STI

[mahoney]

Disappointing that the dufus Kramer could embolden those with such self-serving and flawed motives to have such sway with a lazy public.

[Mangoat]

Huge red letters and NoFilterPaul as a corroborating witness must mean it's true

I must alert the media

[buffalojames]

send a letter to xm,i gave them till the 21st and if they are not back on im gone

[MadMatt]

Huge red letters and NoFilterPaul as a corroborating witness must mean it's true

I must alert the media

Exactly. Until I hear a little more I don't want to think the worst.

[Dirtybird12]

Just got a myspace bulletin from someone saying the same thing -
"The axe has already fallen"

Consider the source here - MYSPACE.

This is just a crazy world ... what a day.

[Scruluse]

Although I stopped listening to O&A about a year ago, it really is bullshit. If it wasn't for Ron and Fez I would cancel my subscriptions.

[J.Clints]

send a letter to xm,i gave them till the 21st and if they are not back on im gone

fuck that they deal with me now

[Wallower]

fuck that they deal with me now
Jon Zellner? I don't even know who that fucking cunt is.

[Mangoat]

Jon Zellner? I don't even know who that fucking cunt is.

For them to leave me on hold for an hour because "they're dealing with too many new subscriptions (lol)" is BULLSHIT. Absolute HORSESHIT.

[ChaseMan16]

This is a crazy world we live in folks

[sailor]

cancelled 4 of my 5 radios, the only time the 1 will be on will between 12-3pm to listen to the buddays, if they fire O&A this one will be gone too

5 radios? wtf? you own a fleet of cars or such?

[MrTwister]

5 radios? wtf? you own a fleet of cars or such?

It sounds like me.. I've got (2) XMPCR's (for archival purposes), (2) MyFi's,
(2) roady 2's and one old school sony unit (you know the one the
old dual satellite antenna leads).. ouch.. forgot about that one.. I guess
I'm paying for 6 instead of 5..

[higgies]

I love O & A. I alos love Ron & Fez. So this isn't a slam at all, but...

Almost every thread I read on this board and others relating to the suspension/possible firing of O & A complains about the special interest groups, etc. I'm curious though about the legal issues surrounding what was said during that broadcast. I was listening when this all went down and immediately thought about the whole making comments about doing harm to the president even if said in jest. Does this not apply as well to other officials/first family?

The recent events surrounding other shows may have obscured their judgment regarding the comments made and led them to believe (as it seems everyone is doing) that this is more about censorship and special interest groups complaining than the legal issues surrounding comments on those under secret service protection.

Perhaps their cavalier attitude that this was censorship led to their suspension and they didn't appreciate the full ramifications of the comments made. Just my thoughts...

I also think this country is becoming a bastion of pussiness and crybabies, but there are still rules and laws....

[Fallon]

So they go from building them a state of the art studio to kicking them to the curb? That's nuts!

[Mangoat]

I honestly think that the XM stance that they're being suspended for talking against their contract is a load of horse puckey (pardon my French). I believe it is a complete fabrication on their part, put out hours after the suspension press release because of the number of cancellation requests they saw coming in.

That's just my opinion, of course. And I'm well known in my area for being an idiot, so it's probably wrong.

[cozzie]

5 radios? wtf? you own a fleet of cars or such?

2 persoal cars and 3 service vans

[FlyingmWY]

This is wrong! If the bit would have been about Stalker Patty or H Cup Jane or any other person, this would be a non issue. Because they are public figures they get attention? What the fuck? A bit is a bit and we should be able to goof on anyone! This is wrong!

[Midkiff]

fuck em all

[Blackstarj]

What O&A nation needs to do is cancel their XM subscriptions for 30 days. In this world money talks and O&A would be back on in no time. Imagine in 500,000 listeners canceled there XM account, that would mean $6.4m of lost revenue for the month. That would be bad for the Buddays though

Or we all can...

Contact XM and ask them to reduce their rate for this month they are not delivering on the service they advertized. In your cable is out, the cable company gives you a credit.

Welcome back Fezzie!!!

[Mangoat]

This is wrong! If the bit would have been about Stalker Patty or H Cup Jane or any other person, this would be a non issue. Because they are public figures they get attention? What the fuck? A bit is a bit and we should be able to goof on anyone! This is wrong!

I don't see stalker patty talking about raping condoleeza rice, though the thought of that violent sexual encounter is kind of hilarious.

Oh wait, I think you were talking about something else :D

Public figures make the news a lot more than the average joe on the street, I'm not sure how long this trend has been going on, but I have a hunch that it's "forever".

[FlyingmWY]

If we can not goof on public figures, on satelite radio, we can not goof on anyone! Nobody deserves "better" protection from free speech than anyone else. O & A should be allowed to goof on anyone! Where is the outrage for E Rock or anyone they goof on? Because you are a public figure you become a target. This is the american way. What will we have to listen to next? Campfire songs is my guess!

[higgies]

It's not the "goofing on", it's the "threat".... even if it was an unrealistic one.

[cheeseman]

Hell yeah Buddays, cancel that crap sub. at least for the month that they are off. thats what im doing. im willing to pay the reconnection fee Hit them where it counts,$$$$ . then the next time they think they will twice before they sideline them again over a bunch of just HILLARIOUS!!!!! comments about the Queen. Just priceless Jimmy.

[Bossanova]

The thing that kills me, is if this was so damn offensive to xm. Why wasn't the replay pulled that day?

I am also starting to hate Drudge with it putting every little risky clip up

[FezPaul]

a load of horse puckey (pardon my French). .

I really loved that. :laugh:

Please post more often.

[FezPaul]

The thing that kills me, is if this was so damn offensive to xm. Why wasn't the replay pulled that day?

I am also starting to hate Drudge with it putting every little risky clip up

Did you mean risque'?

[FlyingmWY]

It's not the "goofing on", it's the "threat".... even if it was an unrealistic one.

What if the threat would have been to Boat Head Jim, or Black Earl? Non issue. Nothing would have been said by XM.

[Dirtybird12]

did someone hack wackbag?

because (and maybe Im late on this ) but they are reporting XM has now FIRED O&A.

No way.

[shadyrudy]

And now Robert Horry is suspended for 2 games. What is this world coming to?