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Mangoat
05-15-2007, 05:53 PM
did someone hack wackbag?

because (and maybe Im late on this ) but they are reporting XM has now FIRED O&A.

No way.

This is news from NoFilterPaul's 'reliable sources'

Take that as you will

EDIT:

I'm now hearing a bunch of other regs (including HTG) are saying the same thing. This may be true. :(

Bossanova
05-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Did you mean risque'?

HAHA, no. But thats works as well.

Mangoat
05-15-2007, 05:54 PM
And now Robert Horry is suspended for 2 games. What is this world coming to?

I'm canceling my NBA subscription and alerting Happy Typing Girl immediately

FlyingmWY
05-15-2007, 05:55 PM
did someone hack wackbag?

because (and maybe Im late on this ) but they are reporting XM has now FIRED O&A.

No way.

Would not suprise me. If a merger is coming you can't have Howie and O & A. What better way to get rid of the one's not having the huge contact! Would not suprise me at all.

Jughead
05-15-2007, 05:55 PM
I just want to say ive been on hold 35 mins to cancel my xm..I have worked for Gm since they have installed xm in there product!!!Ive activated hundreds of radios This is bull shiT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!iM SO PHUCKING PISSED AT XM.....Its ok I get it free in my demo to listen to the boys .....but im one who can make a statement without hurting my buddieesss so I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Aqualad
05-15-2007, 05:55 PM
The sole reason I subscribe to satellite radio is Ron and Fez. I like Stern but not enough to pay for him...I enjoy O&A's XM show, but the Free FM side doesn't do anything for me.

If this suspension or firing or whatever negatively affects my Buddies, then I'm out. But not until then.

FezPaul
05-15-2007, 05:57 PM
HAHA, no. But thats works as well.

Nevermind.

Dirtybird12
05-15-2007, 05:57 PM
And now Robert Horry is suspended for 2 games. What is this world coming to?


jesus .. thats it im done... xm can take my sky .. wait who the f is horry? you mean nu horry? or old horry?

foodcourtdruide
05-15-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm torn on this issue. It makes me think.. if my job told me not to talk to speak publically about something, and I did.. I'd get suspended/fired/potentially have legal action against me.

EDIT: This is assuming that they were suspended because of the comments yesterday, of course.

ppanda
05-15-2007, 06:04 PM
another effort to distract us from actual issues like the war....I suspect

douchebagsean
05-15-2007, 06:08 PM
i am cancelling my subscription. fuck those clowns *edit- by clowns i man xm not o &a

JokesaboutPants
05-15-2007, 06:10 PM
54 minutes but it's cancelled.

I must admit I did not cancell both my radios. One to support O&A, one for the Buddies.

I felt I had to do it; I've listened to O&A for years and they introduced me to Ron and Fez.

....I hope this shit works out and is not the start of something worse, it's already bad.

24/7 R&F for a while going to be a blast though.

Bossanova
05-15-2007, 06:11 PM
I'm torn on this issue. It makes me think.. if my job told me not to talk to speak publically about something, and I did.. I'd get suspended/fired/potentially have legal action against me.

EDIT: This is assuming that they were suspended because of the comments yesterday, of course.

From what I have read, thats exactly why they were suspended.

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 06:12 PM
This XM hold music is awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Midkiff
05-15-2007, 06:13 PM
I'm torn on this issue. It makes me think.. if my job told me not to talk to speak publically about something, and I did.. I'd get suspended/fired/potentially have legal action against me.

EDIT: This is assuming that they were suspended because of the comments yesterday, of course.

Your job probably doesn't entail talking about yourself for 5 hours a day. It's easy not to mention your widget-making publicly.

J.Clints
05-15-2007, 06:14 PM
I heard Mondays show 3 times what did they say?

Bossanova
05-15-2007, 06:16 PM
I heard Mondays show 3 times what did they say?

On FMQB they have a link to the supposed segment

Mangoat
05-15-2007, 06:17 PM
radio dentist

edit: damn ninja edits!

Bossanova
05-15-2007, 06:18 PM
They basically pick at xm in not so direct terms for not backing them and making light of it

foodcourtdruide
05-15-2007, 06:19 PM
Your job probably doesn't entail talking about yourself for 5 hours a day. It's easy not to mention your widget-making publicly.

I think radio talk show host isn't the only job where every word you say is potentially scrutinized. I'm sure it's easier to slip up.. but put yourself in XM's position. What would you have done?

ppanda
05-15-2007, 06:23 PM
Where is Mikeyboy to merge the two O&A suspension threads....Im getting vertigo going back and forth between the two...
Mikeyboy?....can you hear me? Mikeyboy?

Dan 'Hampton
05-15-2007, 06:24 PM
Tomorrow morning I cancel my sub untill this is done. Not going to waste an hour on the phone tonight. At first I thought i'd just stand bye and let this happen but F that. I've been on 3 months credit because they were overcharging me on one radio. Tomorrow I get the remainder back in my checking and I'll be listening to Boston sports talk for the next month.

Midkiff
05-15-2007, 06:24 PM
I think radio talk show host isn't the only job where every word you say is potentially scrutinized. I'm sure it's easier to slip up.. but put yourself in XM's position. What would you have done?

I would have manned up.

BalzacWB
05-15-2007, 06:28 PM
I think radio talk show host isn't the only job where every word you say is potentially scrutinized. I'm sure it's easier to slip up.. but put yourself in XM's position. What would you have done?


I dont know....how bout SUPPORTING your on air talent.


news flash 202 is an XL channel.... and if you think the condi segment was the worse thing theyve ever said you dont listen much.


Adam walsh's head
months of laci conner jokes
every fucking jimmy pedo joke




this shit is a witch hunt plain and simple

Mangoat
05-15-2007, 06:28 PM
I think radio talk show host isn't the only job where every word you say is potentially scrutinized. I'm sure it's easier to slip up.. but put yourself in XM's position. What would you have done?

Honestly, I wouldn't have done a thing different.

I am of the opinion that the reason XM said they suspended O&A was bull malarkey (pardon my French) to try to stop the cancelation hemorrhage that's going on right now.

SinA
05-15-2007, 06:32 PM
They basically pick at xm in not so direct terms for not backing them and making light of it

I think that's what this whole suspension was supposed to be about. It's like they were saying "we give you a guys a lot of freedom, you ought to respect our decision to apologize and just do it, for the benefit of all of us" and O&A wouldn't do it.

On one hand I can appreciate that, but the timing is awful. It looks like they backed down to demands of third and fourth parties, when that might not be the case. They lost a bunch of subs already and were forced to rebate, refund, or discount tons of others. IT's probably not gonna get better for XM either unless they clear this whole thing up by the end of the week.

-Sean

sailor
05-15-2007, 06:33 PM
Nevermind.

you mean "never mind" or was that just a nirvana homage? :)

foodcourtdruide
05-15-2007, 06:34 PM
I dont know....how bout SUPPORTING your on air talent.


news flash 202 is an XL channel.... and if you think the condi segment was the worse thing theyve ever said you dont listen much.


Adam walsh's head
months of laci conner jokes
every fucking jimmy pedo joke




this shit is a witch hunt plain and simple

I listen often. You don't think this is slightly different? Also, the issue isn't what was said, it was that they defied XM's order not to speak about the issue.

foodcourtdruide
05-15-2007, 06:35 PM
I think that's what this whole suspension was supposed to be about. It's like they were saying "we give you a guys a lot of freedom, you ought to respect our decision to apologize and just do it, for the benefit of all of us" and O&A wouldn't do it.

On one hand I can appreciate that, but the timing is awful. It looks like they backed down to demands of third and fourth parties, when that might not be the case. They lost a bunch of subs already and were forced to rebate, refund, or discount tons of others. IT's probably not gonna get better for XM either unless they clear this whole thing up by the end of the week.

-Sean

Completely agree with everything you said above.

marius
05-15-2007, 06:36 PM
i wonder if any of o&a's friends will speak out in support or hide the issue. im watching hannity daily starting today.

sailor
05-15-2007, 06:38 PM
Completely agree with everything you said above.

but o&a have always defied their bosses and never were shy about trying to hide it. it's a little silly to act like this is something new that they thought up today (as xm seems to be saying it is).

big_popa_bump
05-15-2007, 06:38 PM
Hugh.Panero@xmradio.com

Lee.Abrams@xmradio.comom

Eric.Logan@xmradio.com

Nathaniel.Brown@xmradio.com, Media Relations, +1-212-708-6170,

Chance.Patterson@xmradio.com Media Relations,+1-202-380-4318, ,
Joe.Wilkinson@xmradio.com Investor Relations, +1-202-380-4008, , or Richard Sloane,
Investor Relations, +1-202-380-1439, Richard.Sloane@xmradio.com


202-380-4000 DC office number

I was able to leave a voice mail for abrams, logans was full

foodcourtdruide
05-15-2007, 06:39 PM
but o&a have always defied their bosses and never were shy about trying to hide it. it's a little silly to act like this is something new that they thought up today (as xm seems to be saying it is).

Maybe that was an act and yesterday they broke kayfabe?

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 06:39 PM
I listen often. You don't think this is slightly different? Also, the issue isn't what was said, it was that they defied XM's order not to speak about the issue.

you know what fuck their order. tell the suits to stop fucking listening then. A lot of the fans like to know behind the scenes shit, and everyone would have been pissed if they did not comment on it. it was a HUGE deal, and the paying customers wanted to know what was going on. they did not go on for hours bashing XM or what was said to them. i think O&A had to comment because so many fans were demanding it, and worried about what was going on. If they would have stayed silent, speculation could have got out of control, and then the pests would have been attacking XM. In my opinion talking about it was a great way for the boys to keep the fans at bay, and keep them somewhat informed.

what is going on now is the perfect example. no one knows if they are fired or suspended, if it is possible for them to be on the air sooner than June 15th, and I have read a few places that possibly 35,000 subs have been cancelled and people are smashing their XM units. so does it make sense to keep the rabid fans of the O&A show in the dark, or do you think a little information might actually be a good thing?

Photoshop Mike
05-15-2007, 06:40 PM
What the hell is going on?!? Its an XL channel.. there are all sorts of commercials stating YOU CAN CALL AND CANCELL THIS STATION! I mean.. I can watch a MURDER on HBO or A RAPE on SHO TIME.. But I can't listen to TALK on the radio! This is bad buddays! Very bad.. Whats next? Has anyone seen DEMOLITION MAN? If thats our future, CENSORED.. Im NOT lov'n it! This my friends is the beginning of the PUSSIFICATION of AMERICA!

BalzacWB
05-15-2007, 06:41 PM
I listen often. You don't think this is slightly different? Also, the issue isn't what was said, it was that they defied XM's order not to speak about the issue.


a difference between joking about raping children or making light of a decapitated five yr old or fucking a sec of state while punching/choking her??


No not at all, they are both deplorable and said in a comedy context!


and as far as them apologizing.. they read one.

And IMO XM never told them not to talk about it, they had a meeting with rev al (who said last night on foxnews that he was meeting with xm today) and viola suspension/firing.


This is no different then the bullshit imus or jv elvis shit... special interests groups who do not listen or support these shows destroying them and fucking it up for us, the paying costumer

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 06:43 PM
I just hung up after 42 minutes on hold...I guess i'll try again in a little while...It'll be more fun with a bit of crown royal in me anyway......

foodcourtdruide
05-15-2007, 06:44 PM
you know what fuck their order. tell the suits to stop fucking listening then. A lot of the fans like to know behind the scenes shit, and everyone would have been pissed if they did not comment on it. it was a HUGE deal, and the paying customers wanted to know what was going on. they did not go on for hours bashing XM or what was said to them. i think O&A had to comment because so many fans were demanding it, and worried about what was going on. If they would have stayed silent, speculation could have got out of control, and then the pests would have been attacking XM. In my opinion talking about it was a great way for the boys to keep the fans at bay, and keep them somewhat informed.

what is going on now is the perfect example. no one knows if they are fired or suspended, if it is possible for them to be on the air sooner than June 15th, and I have read a few places that possibly 35,000 subs have been cancelled and people are smashing their XM units. so does it make sense to keep the rabid fans of the O&A show in the dark, or do you think a little information might actually be a good thing?

It is all speculation because we really don't know what happened behind the scenes. I'm as frustrated as you are that they are off the air, but XM is a major corporation on the verge of a merger.. you know what I'm saying? I'm against major corporations putting a muzzle on their on-air talent too, but this just seems like a bad decision was made by O&A.

FezPaul
05-15-2007, 06:49 PM
you mean "never mind" or was that just a nirvana homage? :)

Did you mean hommage?

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 06:49 PM
It is all speculation because we really don't know what happened behind the scenes. I'm as frustrated as you are that they are off the air, but XM is a major corporation on the verge of a merger.. you know what I'm saying? I'm against major corporations putting a muzzle on their on-air talent too, but this just seems like a bad decision was made by O&A.

I think the merger talk related to O&A is bullshit. they are a top earner for XM. and the whole premise of satellite radio is uncensored talk and commerical free music. so why would O&A compromise any merger talks? XM = O&A Sirus = Howard. O&A should be allowed to get on the air every day from 9-11 and yell the N and C words 10,000 times in a row. their content should have nothing to do with the merger, unless part of this merger deal has to do with a piece of the new company being bought by liek CBS or another radio division. OR, if in order for it to go down as a merger, they have to agree to regulations by the goverment. in that case, i could see how O&A MIGHT be a problem. but how can comdedy central, which 85% of households can watch, put on the chapelle show, and at the same time O&A be in trouble for this shit?

sailor
05-15-2007, 06:54 PM
Did you mean hommage?

damn you, i had to look that up to make sure i was right! if that was your goal, well done. if you were serious, well...i was right. :tongue: or were you thinking of fromage?

FezPaul
05-15-2007, 06:55 PM
damn you, i had to look that up to make sure i was right! if that was your goal, well done. if you were serious, well...i was right. :tongue: or were you thinking of fromage?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheese.

Definitions of Hommage on the Web in French:

Au Moyen Âge, la cérémonie de l'hommage avait lieu en général au château seigneurial. Elle officialisait publiquement l'entrée en vassalité d'un homme libre. Par l'hommage, le chevalier devenait donc le vassal d'un plus puissant. Il engageait ainsi sa fidélité et promettait de porter aide et conseil à son seigneur. Il recevait un fief, généralement une terre lui permettant de vivre et de s'équiper pour la guerre

Mangoat
05-15-2007, 06:59 PM
http://a.photos.cx/XM1-de7.png

The announcement was added to their RSS feed at 2:39 PM today, Ron announced it on the show at around 4:20

I'm no stockbroker but I think I see a trend here

sailor
05-15-2007, 07:06 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheese.

Definitions of Hommage on the Web in French:

Au Moyen Âge, la cérémonie de l'hommage avait lieu en général au château seigneurial. Elle officialisait publiquement l'entrée en vassalité d'un homme libre. Par l'hommage, le chevalier devenait donc le vassal d'un plus puissant. Il engageait ainsi sa fidélité et promettait de porter aide et conseil à son seigneur. Il recevait un fief, généralement une terre lui permettant de vivre et de s'équiper pour la guerre

exactly!!

and fuck you 30 second posting shot clock!!!!!!!

BalzacWB
05-15-2007, 07:12 PM
check the front page of WB for details... I will post more info as they are available

Fezticle98
05-15-2007, 07:15 PM
If this is true, the debate is over...CANCEL, CANCEL!

http://www.wackbag.com/

Mangoat
05-15-2007, 07:15 PM
This is unconfirmed, and has been discussed for the past few hours in the other thread

Tazdev598
05-15-2007, 07:17 PM
Hey all Im a first timer here but I've been listening to the show for years.

This is complete pure bullshit. We all know O&A are going to say offensive stuff. Why else do we listen to the show. As the XM page says:

As a company, XM provides customers with tools to control what they listen to on XM. "The Opie & Anthony Show" appears on one of XM's explicit language channels (XL). Whenever a radio is tuned to an explicit language channel, the letters "XL" continuously appear on the screen. XM frequently mentions on its explicit language channels that the content may be inappropriate for certain listeners and tells how to "block" channels that feature this type of content. Channel blocking is available through xmradio.com or by calling 1-800-XMRADIO.

Ugggg I hate this. Censorship sucks ass. When are people going to wake up and just accept this all for what its..... COMEDY!!!!!!

Hottub
05-15-2007, 07:19 PM
I see your point.

torker
05-15-2007, 07:21 PM
Preparing to merge.

I'm gonna help.
http://www.westheat.com/images/ThreadLube.jpg

loach
05-15-2007, 07:21 PM
In case you didn't get it (from Wackbag):

What to do next??

THINK SNATCHING YOUR MONEY BACK FROM XM ISN'T ENOUGH? WANT TO MAKE MORE OF AN IMPRESSION ON XM??

TOMORROW MORNING (5/16/07), THERE WILL BE A PROTEST OF XM, AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESS AT THE FREE FM STUDIOS IN NY!

BRING YOUR XM UNIT TO SMASH IT IN PROTEST!!

MAKE SOME NOISE!! AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SHOW!!! MAKE OP, ANT AND li' JIMMY PROUD!!

I would go except I have a job. They tend not to pay me if I don't show up. Bastards! I did cancel my two subscriptions.

Midkiff
05-15-2007, 07:24 PM
Let's all email Al Sharpton and tell him how we feel about his actions. Here are some email addresses for his "activist" organization:

info@nationalactionnetwork.net

scheduling@nationalactionnetwork.net

crisis@nationalactionnetwork.net

rachel@nationalactionnetwork.net

bigferg77@aol.com

Here's the website. Bring it down!!!

http://www.nationalactionnetwork.net/

BalzacWB
05-15-2007, 07:25 PM
In case you didn't get it (from Wackbag):



I would go except I have a job. They tend not to pay me if I don't show up. Bastards! I did cancel my two subscriptions.

very important for everyone who can be there to come out.... if you cant make it, thursday and friday we will be in front of the today show.


make your voice heard



SUPPORT THE PAC

spadanko
05-15-2007, 07:25 PM
this is what is currently on wackbag.com

I have received word that O&A have been FIRED from XM!!!

I was told this by an extremely trusted source, and not an employee/relative of an XM employee.

Get on the phone, cancel your XM. DO NOT take the 30-day credit - CANCEL it! XM will feel that much more on their bottom line than a 30-day dip.

If XM feels the sting of thousands of people canceling their subs, then there is some sort of a chance!

What to do next??
THINK SNATCHING YOUR MONEY BACK FROM XM ISN'T ENOUGH? WANT TO MAKE MORE OF AN IMPRESSION ON XM??

TOMORROW MORNING (5/16/07), THERE WILL BE A PROTEST OF XM, AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESS AT THE FREE FM STUDIOS IN NY!

BRING YOUR XM UNIT TO SMASH IT IN PROTEST!!

MAKE SOME NOISE!! AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SHOW!!!

(yes, I know I sent the e-mail with the wrong date :-/)
-zag

RonFezFan
05-15-2007, 07:30 PM
That prick, Al Sharpton is speaking out on the suspension right now on showbiz tonight.... i wish he'd drop dead this very second.....

i would jump up and down in glee.

loach
05-15-2007, 07:33 PM
You know this has got me riled up, 4 posts in 4 years.

Here are the XM emails again.

eric.logan@xmradio.com, jon.zellner@xmradio.com, lee.abrams@xmradio.com, dion.summers@xmradio.com, gary.parsons@xmradio.com, steve.cook@xmradio.com, joseph.euteneuer@xmradio.com, stell.patsiokas@xmradio.com, joseph.titlebaum@xmradio.com, chance.patterson@xmradio.com, carolyn.turner@xmradio.com, dan.turner@xmradio.com, kevin.straley@xmradio.com, tony.masiello@xmradio.com, marie.farrar@xmradio.com, david.butler@xmradio.com

I'm really fucking depressed.

Again.

Dudeman
05-15-2007, 07:35 PM
Can they change the name of the channel to the iris while it is just RnF? Some calls from Iris, that sexy lady, would be nice too.

chrisk67
05-15-2007, 07:35 PM
CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

See, this is just the point. IT IS guys like Sharpton that have shaken down the higher ups at XM to do this. Can't you see that it is the same thing that happened to IMUS. He made a gesture about the women at Rutgers and it ended up being about race. Not that you aren't aware, but IMUS is WHITE and so are O&A! They did the same thing (not from O&A's mouths), but the bit was supported by laughter.

Listen, I am a huge O&A fan and have been since they were at WAAF in Worcester, MA. My gut says that the execs were shaken down by Al Sharpton because the comment was about the person that it was mainly said about (Rice). She is black. Can't you see the comparison? IT IS A SHARPTON SHAKEDOWN!! He has taken over where Jessie left off.

I am a HUGE believer in free speech. I think that CBS and other commercial radio stations are just so poised at hitting the dump button when something comes up that isn't going to look good to the advertisers. IT IS ABOUT $$!! On XM, it is about Sharpton and the race issue. Race is taking over and that is the worst part about it. Leaving XM will only support what Sharpton has done. I refuse to leave or be bullied by acts that I believe are Sharpton based and not support other great shows like R+F. I hate the fact that when I listened yesterday to O&A, I thought that it was a "best of" show. It was toned way down. I was taken for a loss today. I knew that it was coming when a caller to the R+F show was being handled by ESD and Fez (Welcome Back!!) and Ron said he would be right back and stepped away for a minute. I could tell by Ron's voice that something bad had happened to the O&A show. It also saddens me that the R+F show had to be told by Ron that they would have to "tone it down a little" to ESD and Earl. I am saddened.

Our Constitution says that we have the right to "free speech", well just in case you weren't looking their is someone that doesn't want FREE SPEECH to happen and Sharpton is the reason we are without O&A for 30. Sharpton is showing that he wants all white artists off the radio and completely wants race to BE an issue so that he can push the race card. It is a shame that this has happen. I am still saddened.

In regards to other programming on XM, just because it is listed as a "XL" station doesn't mean that some of the comedy doesn't push the race issue, or taking about "colorful" subjects. I haven't heard of anyone knocking down the walls to get that subject matter off the air. I will say that I have heard some of this subject matter more than once. (I could care less what is said, because if I did, I would be encouraging CENSORSHIP!!!!

Peace Out
ChrisK67
Northside of Chicago

Dudeman
05-15-2007, 07:37 PM
:smile:

Fez4PrezN2008
05-15-2007, 07:37 PM
Rev Al is talking up the advertisers? XM is subscription so we can avoid that ! Fuck the advertisers

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 07:38 PM
I love how the computer voice that tells to keep holding says that the wait time is due to an unusual number of people trying to activate new units... I chuckle every time it comes on...Just knowing that a couple of ppl who thought they were going to work an ordinary Tuesday are catching the brunt of canceling pests and loyal buddays makes me smile... Sucks to be in the call center today.... (or tomorrow if the call center is in India) :smile:

tenshi
05-15-2007, 07:38 PM
You know this has got me riled up, 4 posts in 4 years.

Here are the XM emails again.

eric.logan@xmradio.com, jon.zellner@xmradio.com, lee.abrams@xmradio.com, dion.summers@xmradio.com, gary.parsons@xmradio.com, steve.cook@xmradio.com, joseph.euteneuer@xmradio.com, stell.patsiokas@xmradio.com, joseph.titlebaum@xmradio.com, chance.patterson@xmradio.com, carolyn.turner@xmradio.com, dan.turner@xmradio.com, kevin.straley@xmradio.com, tony.masiello@xmradio.com, marie.farrar@xmradio.com, david.butler@xmradio.com

I'm really fucking depressed.

Again.

i emailed everyone on this list. this is what i got back already, an automatic one from lee abrams

I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE WITH LIMITED E-MAIL ACCESS. I WILL BE RETURNING NO LATER THAN MONDAY MAY 21--. IF URGENT-- PLEASE TRY KERRY DUNN AT 202 380 4384--OR IF IT'S IN REGARD TO ARTIST CONFIDENTIAL, PLEASE EMAIL JAYME.KARP@XMRAIO.COM OTHERWISE, PLEASE REACH OUT ON OR AFTER THE 20TH. THANKS

LEE

this whole thing is bullshit

loach
05-15-2007, 07:39 PM
what about listening to RnF... don't forget, this is ronfez.net

And this is an O&A thread. Look at the title.

I've been a RnF fan since NEW. Thats not the point.

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 07:41 PM
i emailed everyone on this list. this is what i got back already, an automatic one from lee abrams

I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE WITH LIMITED E-MAIL ACCESS. I WILL BE RETURNING NO LATER THAN MONDAY MAY 21--. IF URGENT-- PLEASE TRY KERRY DUNN AT 202 380 4384--OR IF IT'S IN REGARD TO ARTIST CONFIDENTIAL, PLEASE EMAIL JAYME.KARP@XMRAIO.COM OTHERWISE, PLEASE REACH OUT ON OR AFTER THE 20TH. THANKS

LEE

this whole thing is bullshit

Abrams is a lucky bastard to be on vacation this week.... He's going to get back on the 21st and have 10000 emails, though....

BalzacWB
05-15-2007, 07:44 PM
ELO just signed on aim.....


IM radiorodeoboy.... let him know how you feel

burrben
05-15-2007, 07:44 PM
i emailed everyone on this list. this is what i got back already, an automatic one from lee abrams

I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE WITH LIMITED E-MAIL ACCESS. I WILL BE RETURNING NO LATER THAN MONDAY MAY 21--. IF URGENT-- PLEASE TRY KERRY DUNN AT 202 380 4384--OR IF IT'S IN REGARD TO ARTIST CONFIDENTIAL, PLEASE EMAIL JAYME.KARP@XMRAIO.COM OTHERWISE, PLEASE REACH OUT ON OR AFTER THE 20TH. THANKS

LEE

this whole thing is bullshit

so call kerry and email jayme

loach
05-15-2007, 07:44 PM
:smile:

Too late, I already quoted you before you edited.

marius
05-15-2007, 07:44 PM
anyone got an update on the wait to cancel? i hung up after 45 minutes a few hours ago and after some gin im itching to call back but dont want to be on hold for another hour.

ppanda
05-15-2007, 07:45 PM
bullshit!!!

burrben
05-15-2007, 07:45 PM
ELO just signed on aim.....


IM radiorodeoboy.... let him know how you feel

lame

loach
05-15-2007, 07:45 PM
ELO just signed on aim.....


IM radiorodeoboy.... let him know how you feel

I would be surprised if he has the balls to say anything.

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 07:50 PM
anyone got an update on the wait to cancel? i hung up after 45 minutes a few hours ago and after some gin im itching to call back but dont want to be on hold for another hour.

I hung up earlier at 42 minutes... now i am at 33 minutes and I WILL stay on the line...I'll keep you guys posted

vashawn
05-15-2007, 07:54 PM
That prick, Al Sharpton is speaking out on the suspension right now on showbiz tonight.... i wish he'd drop dead this very second.....

i would jump up and down in glee.

Please tell Sharpton's office how you feel.

http://www.nationalactionnetwork.net/html/contact_us.html

Phone: (212) 690-3070
Fax: (212) 690-3081

Media Department
For media request please click here make sure you include your name/title, company, company address, e-mail address and a contact number or call 212-876-5444 for Rachel Noerdlinger, Director of Communications.

Imwithstupid
05-15-2007, 08:01 PM
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it

Not only is it extremely cruel to persecute in this brief life those who do not think the way we do, but I do not know if it might be too presumptuous to declare their eternal damnation.


Voltaire... well either by Voltaire or Inspired by him.

http://ask.yahoo.com/20030331.html

Gvac
05-15-2007, 08:01 PM
anyone got an update on the wait to cancel? i hung up after 45 minutes a few hours ago and after some gin im itching to call back but dont want to be on hold for another hour.

I hung up earlier at 42 minutes... now i am at 33 minutes and I WILL stay on the line...I'll keep you guys posted

They'll keep you on hold for about an hour and then try to get you to put your subscription on "hold" for 30 days. They'll tell you this will send a message and hurt the company financially and then you can re-activate when O & A return without having to pay an activation fee.

If you refuse, they'll try to give you 3 free months of XM or another "tempting" offer such as canceling when your 'anniversary date' comes up.

I told 'em thanks, but no thanks. I want my message to be loud and clear...cancel it IMMEDIATELY and credit my account with the pro-rated amount.

Midkiff
05-15-2007, 08:08 PM
I sent this to Al Sharpton:

http://www.iamrightandyouarewrong.com/Images/uncle-sam-ranting.gif

clearbuttjuice
05-15-2007, 08:10 PM
I say fuck them cancel. Cancel ELOW eats bloody stool out of dead hooker ass! I dropped 2 sups and will stop looking at chevy's. Fuck XM!

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 08:10 PM
Someone finally answered my call.....

He said that there were 162 people on hold behind me....

Also gave me the address xmprogramming@xmradio.com to further express my displeasure....

Doctor Z
05-15-2007, 08:10 PM
What the fuck is this message on Wackbag? Are they suspended for 30 days, or FIRED?

Unfuckinbelievable.

Fezticle98
05-15-2007, 08:15 PM
What the fuck is this message on Wackbag? Are they suspended for 30 days, or FIRED?

Unfuckinbelievable.

Yes, FIRED! Just like a bunch of Chrysler employees will soon be.

loach
05-15-2007, 08:16 PM
I hate to be a nervous nelly. No really I do.

I don't see things going well for O&A or RnF. I don't see XM anchoring a channel with RnF with no O&A. I have a sinking feeling they will dump the whole format. CBS is going to wind up rethinking the FreeFM format. First Imus, then JV and Elvis and now O&A. They have shown they are willing to take a loss in the radio division in order to avoid controversy and bad publicity for the corporation as a whole. I see a format change coming soon.

I need some sleep.

Midkiff
05-15-2007, 08:19 PM
Hey, E-Lo's XM email should be reserved for legit complaints, but we can always fill his AIM mailbox with cocks:

radiorodeoboy@aim.com

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 08:19 PM
I hate to be a nervous nelly. No really I do.

I don't see things going well for O&A or RnF. I don't see XM anchoring a channel with RnF with no O&A. I have a sinking feeling they will dump the whole format. CBS is going to wind up rethinking the FreeFM format. First Imus, then JV and Elvis and now O&A. They have shown they are willing to take a loss in the radio division in order to avoid controversy and bad publicity for the corporation as a whole. I see a format change coming soon.

I need some sleep.

This worries me also..... This isn't just a fight for O&A it is a fight for the long term health of the R&F show......

douchebagsean
05-15-2007, 08:25 PM
every site ive gone to says the same thing, o&a are fired from xm radio. not good kids not good. wheres aldus (sp?) huxley when u need him

NYHCmikeX
05-15-2007, 08:38 PM
every site ive gone to says the same thing, o&a are fired from xm radio. not good kids not good. wheres aldus (sp?) huxley when u need him

Its not good. But XM's site and OA.com say suspended.

BTW, I work in Pearl River. Didnt think anyone there listened to the boys/buddays.

underdog
05-15-2007, 08:59 PM
Can people stop blaming E-Lo? When Anthony spoke of people behind the scenes earlier this week, he mentioned E-Lo by name saying he was doing great work. There's no way it was E-Lo's fault they've been suspended. He's probably been one of the few XM suits on O&A's side the whole time.

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 09:03 PM
Can people stop blaming E-Lo? When Anthony spoke of people behind the scenes earlier this week, he mentioned E-Lo by name saying he was doing great work. There's no way it was E-Lo's fault they've been suspended. He's probably been one of the few XM suits on O&A's side the whole time.

I have to agree with this. I think if anything, Elo was a big supporter of the boys. I doubt his opinion carried much weight when the 3 members of the board of directors decided on the suspension, but I am sure his pro-O&A opinion was heard.

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 09:04 PM
O&A's fate really depends on what happens in the news tomorrow....

If there is a big story (earthquake, political scandal, celebrity death, etc...) opie and anthony will be fine... this will disappear from local media, take up 1 minute an hour on national news and be on page 20+ in the paper......

BUT...

If this turns into a slow news week.... We're fucked... The media will turn to O&A for easy fodder and easy filler.....

Remember, if Imus had said that shit the monday of the week of the VT shootings, he'd still be broadcasting... but he said it during a slow news week....

celery
05-15-2007, 09:09 PM
O&A's fate really depends on what happens in the news tomorrow....

If there is a big story (earthquake, political scandal, celebrity death, etc...) opie and anthony will be fine... this will disappear from local media, take up 1 minute an hour on national news and be on page 20+ in the paper......


Until the next time they say something remotely edgy and it happens all over again. This isn't going to stop until we take a stand.

Friday
05-15-2007, 09:11 PM
this whole situation has me scared...Friday...will you hold me?

Awww we had a Les Miz moment.... lol!

http://www.musical-cat.com/world/lemiz/fall.jpg

johnniewalker
05-15-2007, 09:53 PM
Audio that caused suspension (http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/audio-opie-anthony-comments-that-caused-xm-suspension.html), I heard the break yesterday. Do they expect them not to a radio show? Wtf xm?

johnniewalker
05-15-2007, 10:10 PM
I'm thinking long term. At the end of their contract, if they've lost enough 202 listeners, R&F won't get renewed. If that's what they want, fine, but until I get some indication of that, I won't cancel.

I don't like to disagree with you mikeyboy, but they are on O and A's channel 202. They are a sitting target. They are in a tough position. If xm distances themselves from O and A removing all content from 202, what makes you think ron and fez are the least bit safe. Things ron said can get taken completely out of context and look just as awful as o and a.

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 10:15 PM
I don't like to disagree with you mikeyboy, but they are on O and A's channel 202. They are a sitting target. They are in a tough position. If xm distances themselves from O and A removing all content from 202, what makes you think ron and fez are the least bit safe. Things ron said can get taken completely out of context and look just as awful as o and a.

obviously it is not O&A's channel 202. if it was, 202 would be shut down when O&A were suspended. it is XM's channel 202 that they let O&A be the main feature of. they changed the name of the channel from high voltage to the Virus, I think purposely NOT putting O&A's name directly in the name. and this is the reason why.

Tenbatsuzen
05-15-2007, 10:24 PM
Forgive me, I haven't read this entire thread, and to be honest, I'm really shocked how my "give a damn" is working right now, because this has really been out of mind for me.

Here's my question, and forgive me if it's already been asked.

Instead of appealing to the management of XM, why aren't we appealing to the advertisers? If it's working for the special interest groups, there's surely more of us than there is of them.

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 10:26 PM
Forgive me, I haven't read this entire thread, and to be honest, I'm really shocked how my "give a damn" is working right now, because this has really been out of mind for me.

Here's my question, and forgive me if it's already been asked.

Instead of appealing to the management of XM, why aren't we appealing to the advertisers? If it's working for the special interest groups, there's surely more of us than there is of them.

i would think because XM is sub driven, and advertisers are an added bonus.

Tenbatsuzen
05-15-2007, 10:35 PM
i would think because XM is sub driven, and advertisers are an added bonus.

The conspiracy theorist in me says that this "suspension" is partially to get the new studio built. But I'm just an ass who is drunk right now.

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 10:37 PM
The conspiracy theorist in me says that this "suspension" is partially to get the new studio built. But I'm just an ass who is drunk right now.

i thought the outrage was all bullshit and nothing was going to happen. i was under the same conspiracy theory last week. now i tend to think this is more serious

Don Stugots
05-15-2007, 10:45 PM
The conspiracy theorist in me says that this "suspension" is partially to get the new studio built. But I'm just an ass who is drunk right now.

i thought the outrage was all bullshit and nothing was going to happen. i was under the same conspiracy theory last week. now i tend to think this is more serious

i just thought the same thing an hour ago.

drusilla
05-15-2007, 11:02 PM
a post on cdih.net from this afternoon:

This is an old (and pathetic) ploy.

O&A did this a few times in Boston that I remember, and I bet if you search the archives, I bet they had some "two week" suspensions in the past for random shit.

Rather than just going on vacation, they get "suspended" for 30 days, which gives them free media coverage, energizes their fans, and gives them a common enemy to rail against when they get back: The evil corporate machine who is surpressing their freedom of speech.

Rinse. Repeat every year or so.


who the fuck knows whats going on. but if this is fake, that's just nutty. we had htg debating reverend al over this!

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 11:08 PM
a post on cdih.net from this afternoon:




who the fuck knows whats going on. but if this is fake, that's just nutty. we had htg debating reverend al over this!

that guy is a fucking idiot. they just came back from 2 weeks off, plus they need to start promoting all thier summer virus shows. why the fuck would they take a month off?

waltermitty
05-15-2007, 11:09 PM
Well If this is fake, or some crazy bit, alot of people got 1-3 months of free service out of it....

If it is serious, god only knows what will happen... I don't trust corporations for shit.....

Tenbatsuzen
05-15-2007, 11:09 PM
that guy is a fucking idiot. they just came back from 2 weeks off, plus they need to start promoting all thier summer virus shows. why the fuck would they take a month off?

Galt? yeah, well.

While I'm not shocked about a suspension if they were in fact making light of a half-assed apology, I AM surprised about the length.

drusilla
05-15-2007, 11:18 PM
first thing i thought of when it was brought to my attention that it might be fake was their two week vacation & the traveling virus advertisement, but they are still on cbs, so.....who knows?

Don Stugots
05-15-2007, 11:20 PM
and cannot broadcast from XM. maybe CBS didnt want them to use their studios for the XM show and they came up with this Ron-esque storyline?

JPMNICK
05-15-2007, 11:20 PM
i did not realize gault posted that here, i thought someone copied his post from a blog or something.

sorry for calling you a fucking idiot gault, i did not mean you are an idiot, just that you idea was kind of a stretch

drusilla
05-15-2007, 11:23 PM
i posted it from another board. plus i'm pretty sure he's used to people calling him a fucking idiot on message boards. he's got bite.

Don Stugots
05-15-2007, 11:25 PM
what ya mean BARQ's has bite?

drusilla
05-15-2007, 11:26 PM
ooh that's good stuff!

Don Stugots
05-15-2007, 11:27 PM
i could go for one right now in an frosted mug.

theclumsyox
05-16-2007, 12:14 AM
This totally sucks. I live in Los Angeles now, used to be Jersey. The only way I can listen to their free fm portion is on xm. But I'm pretty fucked up right now, going to try and make it until 3am so I can stream the free fm show.

I bought XM specifically for O&A, and now I'm paying $12 a month to not be able to listen them? I didn't think they jokes about condi were nearly as offensive as a lot of the stuff they have said on xm.

Fuck.

deliveryguy
05-16-2007, 12:54 AM
Is it really true? I know it's Ron & Fez board, but O&A are their buddies, and it's really sad if this is true. Does anyone know the truth?

Fezticle98
05-16-2007, 01:03 AM
I think it's still rumor at this point, but it doesn't look good.

Anyway, it's being discussed in the suspension forum for now.

Don Stugots
05-16-2007, 01:04 AM
Is it really true? I know it's Ron & Fez board, but O&A are their buddies, and it's really sad if this is true. Does anyone know the truth?

would it be too much trouble for you to search this topic before starting a new thread? there are 5 other threads on this. enjoy.

also, the truth is out there...... wait for it.....

deliveryguy
05-16-2007, 01:05 AM
I got an auto email from Wackbag....looked at the site...got a little jumpy. Sorry.

Reynolds
05-16-2007, 01:19 AM
I think it's still rumor at this point, but it doesn't look good.

Anyway, it's being discussed in the suspension forum for now.

Wow there's a whole suspension forum? Im going to register and squat on OandA30DaySuspension.com before this really gets big.

Fezticle98
05-16-2007, 01:24 AM
Wow there's a whole suspension forum? Im going to register and squat on OandA30DaySuspension.com before this really gets big.

Ha ha. With the way things are going, there may need to be a suspension forum soon. I'd like to apply for mod.

higgies
05-16-2007, 01:31 AM
What if the threat would have been to Boat Head Jim, or Black Earl? Non issue. Nothing would have been said by XM.

That's my point...there is a distinction made and specific laws regarding threats made towards members of the executive branch I believe.

Don Stugots
05-16-2007, 01:37 AM
they need a board just to tell people what is going on: www.alltheinfoyouneedthatwearentallowedtotellyou.c om (www.thereisnoradio.com)

Midkiff
05-16-2007, 04:27 AM
may they all die and burn

blacknoi
05-16-2007, 04:57 AM
I guess we get a LONG walkover (until tomorrow) now.

wackyd33
05-16-2007, 05:21 AM
It's ok Guys, The Rider is back!

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7852/midnightridercopybj0.png

Mangoat
05-16-2007, 05:33 AM
Sweet, sweet Sapphire

Golfman
05-16-2007, 05:51 AM
I think that's misguided. I'm a huge fan of R&F and would love for them, generally, to get more exposure. However, this isn't good. Even if you look at R&F in a bubble and don't care about other shows, this decision still has a number of major repurcussions for the R&F show.

I retract my comment and apologize. Not for upsetting anybody, but for distaste and lack of understanding the situation. I do love R&F, and although I do not like O&A, they have helped the Buddays tremendously and deserve a little respect from me. In fact, I called XM and complained to try and fix my mouth puking from my last comment. Sorry board Buddays, didn't mean to cause any harm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

torker
05-16-2007, 05:55 AM
I retract my comment and apologize. Not for upsetting anybody, but for distaste and lack of understanding the situation. I do love R&F, and although I do not like O&A, they have helped the Buddays tremendously and deserve a little respect from me. In fact, I called XM and complained to try and fix my mouth puking from my last comment. Sorry board Buddays, didn't mean to cause any harm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A messageboard mulligan.

Arch Stanton
05-16-2007, 06:29 AM
A messageboard mulligan.

Ahahaha!!! Killer line my man.

mikeyboy
05-16-2007, 06:42 AM
It's ok Guys, The Rider is back!

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7852/midnightridercopybj0.png

:lol:

TheMojoPin
05-16-2007, 06:46 AM
i could go for one right now on my frosted mug.

!!!!!!!!!

Don Stugots
05-16-2007, 07:12 AM
!!!!!!!!!

touche'



that did make me giggle.

Midkiff
05-16-2007, 11:22 AM
Dear Mr. xxxxx:

Thank you for contacting the Antitrust Division of the U.S. Department of Justice.
The Citizen Complaint Center has reviewed your complaint, and we have forwarded
it to the appropriate legal staff for further review. We have your information
on file and should the legal staff need further information, they may contact you
in the future.

We appreciate your interest in the enforcement of federal antitrust laws.

Sincerely,
Citizen Complaint Center
Antitrust Division
Department of Justice

ImpromptuRob
05-16-2007, 12:19 PM
HEY BUDDAH BOYS
Here I am in seattle... the boys were on at 3:00-6:00A my time and I really couldn't stay up that early.... if anyone has any clue how to get the audio, please PM me.
If this is illegal to post, please let me know and I'll kill it.
THANKS
-R

J.Clints
05-16-2007, 01:16 PM
Happy Typing Girl

Date: May 16, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject O&A NEED US
Body: HI EVERYONE! As most of you know, Opie and Anthony need us right now. They have made us laugh every day for years and years, so i'm asking everyone to please give back now when they need us-- or we might not get to hear them anymore.

They have been suspended for 30 days from XM Radio, and their poker tournament has been cancelled this weekend. THIS SUCKS and given the current environment, who knows what could happen next? Who imagined a conversation with a homeless man would have led to all this?

There is a list of things you can do to help at www.peopleagainstcensorship.com

But this bulliten is to ask you PLEASE to do two things for them.

#1: IF YOU HAVE AN XM SUB, (OR SUBS) CANCEL IT NOW, AND DO NOT ACCEPT ANY FREE OR TRIAL PERIODS

#2: PLEASE SHOW UP TO SUPPORT THEM TOMORROW MORNING, AND FRIDAY MORNING OUTSIDE THE FREE FM STUDIOS. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. PEOPLE WILL BE TRAVELING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO SUPPORT O&A, AND ARE TAKING SICK DAYS AND GETTING SITTERS. BE THERE WHATEVER IT TAKES.

SICK DAY FOR O&A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COME TO 40 WEST 57TH STREET, BETWEEN 5TH AND 6TH,
WE WILL BE THERE FROM 6AM TO 9AM

BRING SIGNS, BRING O&A Tshirts, and IF YOU'RE WILLING, BRING YOU'RE XM RADIOS TO SMASH.

PLEASE DO THESE TWO THINGS FOR THEM-- IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH EFFORT. REPOST THIS BULLITEN ANYWHERE YOU CAN THINK.

drusilla
05-16-2007, 01:23 PM
my myfi has been on the fritz for months now & i really can't afford to buy a new portable unit if this winds up just being a monthly thing. no way i'm smashing it or flushing it down the toilet.

angrymissy
05-16-2007, 01:26 PM
Any chances of an organized weekend protest? There would be a much greater amount of people who could make it.

J.Clints
05-16-2007, 01:27 PM
Any chances of an organized weekend protest? There would be a much greater amount of people who could make it.

No one would see it on the weekend.

angrymissy
05-16-2007, 01:32 PM
No one would see it on the weekend.

You could still get media attention. What sucks is, unfortunately, you're not going to get a significant amount of people during the week, because most people cannot just take a day off for this (I sure can't). On the weekend, you could get many more people and alert the media.

J.Clints
05-16-2007, 01:35 PM
You could still get media attention. What sucks is, unfortunately, you're not going to get a significant amount of people during the week, because most people cannot just take a day off for this (I sure can't). On the weekend, you could get many more people and alert the media.

they will get a lot to show up

torker
05-16-2007, 01:42 PM
alert the media.


Perhaps you would like me to wash your dick for you...
http://www.nndb.com/people/589/000033490/gielgud-color.jpg

Gaia
05-16-2007, 01:45 PM
What the FUCK CHUCK !!??????

kingofthething
05-16-2007, 01:46 PM
http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2007/05/16/xm-inoculates-the-virus.aspx

XM Inoculates the Virus
By Rick Aristotle Munarriz
May 16, 2007
Apparently, you can go too far on satellite radio. XM Satellite Radio (Nasdaq: XMSR) is taking The Opie & Anthony Show off the air for 30 days, in response to some tasteless comments the shock jocks aired earlier this month.

After last month's Don Imus episode, cracking down on a controversial radio show isn't surprising. What is shocking is that a crackdown took place on satellite radio.

XM knew what it was getting, after all. Even the press release that introduced the show to XM's programming slate three years ago called the team of Gregg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia "edgy," "irreverent," and "controversial."

The satellite-radio service even initially offered the show as a premium add-on service. When XM bumped up its monthly subscription rate from $10 to $13 two years ago, it went ahead and made O&A part of the standard offerings.

However, the show's home on channel 202, dubbed "the Virus," has always carried the XL prefix -- the "explicit language" warning tag that XM places on uncensored talk, rock, and hip-hop stations. Listeners know what they're getting into, and parental controls can block the potentially offensive channels.

The O&A bit that led to the suspension is certainly raw. Having a character on the show describe a violent sexual assault on Condoleezza Rice before moving on to Laura Bush is brutal. But who is to blame when you market a show based on its shock value, only to get exactly what you bargained for?

Like FM, like XM
Both Imus and the O&A duo publicly apologized for their comments, and CBS (NYSE: CBS) and XM initially went along with the apologies before dishing out harsher punishments a few days later. We know why CBS buckled. Vocal critics of Imus led to sponsor pullouts. It was a business decision. But the same can't necessarily be said of the XM move. Is satellite radio simply aping its terrestrial counterparts?

Online message boards devoted to O&A -- and the more restrained The Ron and Fez Show that shares the channel -- were burning up last night. Many irate fans mentioned calling XM to deactivate their receivers, but then they were reportedly offered a free month's worth of service to wait out the suspension. As word spread that this was a great way to save $13, many subscribers who were unlikely to walk probably called up for the freebie. In short, this is a Virus virus that may very well contaminate XM's current quarter.

But since no one is expecting a miracle out of XM, could the service be aiming for longer-lasting effects? Is XM trying to spruce itself up as the more wholesome alternative to the Howard Stern-led Sirius (Nasdaq: SIRI)? If so, it could be a mistake, because Oprah Winfrey's ballyhooed arrival last year did little to improve XM's sluggish subscriber acquisition and retention efforts.

Actually, the more plausible theory is that XM is positioning itself as a vigilant self-enforcer, to get regulators to warm up to its proposed merger with Sirius. Yet that would be an even bigger mistake. A deal is unlikely to hinge on how big a ruler XM uses to rap the knuckles of the O&A stars. If the merger is shot down -- and many observers these days expect that it will -- XM, having followed in terrestrial radio's footsteps, will end up alone and disgraced.

Topping controversy with controversy
Assuming that Opie and Anthony return next month, will the show still be as popular on a tighter leash? XM could milk the publicity and point to a triumphant return, but it can hardly play that role while still it's wearing the watchdog outfit.

The plan for now is to fill the dead air with reruns of Ron Bennington and Fez Whatley's show. It's my favorite show on XM, so I don't really mind, but it's going to end up being overkill. Remember when ABC killed Who Wants to Be a Millionaire by shoehorning it into its primetime schedule four times a week? Say hello to Who Wants to Be a Benningtonaire.

In a press release yesterday, XM claims that it's taking O&A off the air for a few weeks after the morning show's hosts failed to take their apology seriously. "Comments made by Opie and Anthony on yesterday's broadcast put into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter," read the release.

Nowhere in the release can you find the words "edgy," "irreverent," or "controversial." Good luck, XM, in trying to get folks to pay for flat, reverent, and acceptable.

Rick recommended XM to Rule Breakers subscribers in 2005, but the position was liquidated last year. A 30-day free trial subscription is available for access to the service's active recommendations.

Longtime Fool contributor Rick Munarriz is a Sirius and XM subscriber, but he does not own shares in any of the companies mentioned in this story. He is also part of the Rule Breakers newsletter research team, seeking out tomorrow's ultimate growth stocks a day

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ChrisTheCop
05-16-2007, 01:57 PM
as long as its all r an f all the time, can they at least simulcast the free fm portion?

ParkmanPotatoWater
05-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Hey XM, go shit in your hat.

AirJordanJoe
05-16-2007, 02:22 PM
I'm beginning to think none of this will matter. It's all about the fucking merger. That's ALL they're concerned with, even though I doubt it will go through anyway. XM doesn't give a shit if we cancel or not, they're looking long-term as to how to reposition themselves after this merger when there's only one satellite company around. Mel already has his "shock jock" slot filled so I'm sure he's looking at this as just casting away unnecessary salary commitments for overlapping programming. I don't think we have to wonder how the merger will impact O&A anymore; we know now - and I really fear R&F are next. How ironic is it that FM is the company that stuck by them? I hated the FM show but I was completely wrong. It may be FCC watered-down with bullshit rules, but they had the balls to stick by them and fucking XM (who isn't FCC regulated) fucked them over after so many talks by the likes of E-Lo about how the FCC is killing FM. The FCC might kill FM but fucking mergers and stock analysts and pussies in empty suits killed XM.

kingofthething
05-16-2007, 03:22 PM
digg this help htg
http://digg.com/politics/AL_SHARPTON_DEBATES_PRESIDENT_OF_THE_PAC_ON_CNN_AB OUT_SHOCK_JOCKS#c6724435

johnniewalker
05-16-2007, 03:36 PM
digg this help htg
http://digg.com/politics/AL_SHARPTON_DEBATES_PRESIDENT_OF_THE_PAC_ON_CNN_AB OUT_SHOCK_JOCKS#c6724435

Very good, she really has to tip-toe because you have to give up the argument that they can go after the advertisers, but that its not a smart thing to do because of the potential dangers. Bravo, she didn't use buzzwords and she got her point across what a smart smart girl.

PapaBear
05-16-2007, 06:20 PM
I was looking at some of the Myspace XM Group (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=35216408&groupID=100184578&adTopicID=21&Mytoken=385CBE46-388F-4313-98D3854415F467CA10991204)posts about all of this. Some guy (who identifies himself as a pest), by the name of Axl Rosenburg, started out his post with this...

Much to my dismay and horror, I tuned in to hear two gentlemen of questionable sexual orientation instead of Opie and Anthony this morning.


What an ass.

sailor
05-16-2007, 06:22 PM
I was looking at some of the Myspace XM Group posts about all of this. Some guy (who identifies himself as a pest), by the name of Axl Rosenburg, started out his post with this...

Much to my dismay and horror, I tuned in to hear two gentlemen of questionable sexual orientation instead of Opie and Anthony this morning.

What an ass.

was dave doing his bagel trick again?

jonnyAK
05-16-2007, 06:34 PM
was dave doing his bagel trick again?

He was the dick that was given the hour of air time after the junkies and before some other show before the Don & Mike show on WJFK106.7 here in the DC area. He was kicked out after blasting every other show on his own station. Bounce the prick!
R&F might know this penis muncher.

PapaBear
05-16-2007, 06:35 PM
He was the dick that was given the hour of air time after the junkies and before some other show before the Don & Mike show on WJFK106.7 here in the DC area. He was kicked out after blasting every other show on his own station. Bounce the prick!
Umm... no. That was Peter Rosenburg.

TheMojoPin
05-16-2007, 06:37 PM
I was looking at some of the Myspace XM Group (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=35216408&groupID=100184578&adTopicID=21&Mytoken=385CBE46-388F-4313-98D3854415F467CA10991204)posts about all of this. Some guy (who identifies himself as a pest), by the name of Axl Rosenburg, started out his post with this...



What an ass.

No kidding. Talk about eating your own.

TheMojoPin
05-16-2007, 06:38 PM
Umm... no. That was Peter Rosenburg.

And as far as I can recall, the only other "talent" on the station that he went after was Don of the D&M show.

Friday
05-16-2007, 07:07 PM
well.... I had planned on taking the day anyway... for my bday festivities...

BUT now I have a reason to actually WAKE UP at the asscrack of dawn, throw on my Opie and Anthony tshirt and head to midtown.

I will be there! With a PAC Hat on! wheee

danosu85
05-16-2007, 07:12 PM
Bill O'Riley is going to talk about O&A on XM 121 in a little bit.

Don Stugots
05-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Bill O'Riley is going to talk about O&A on XM 121 in a little bit.

i am sure that is going to a fair and just report.

User Name
05-16-2007, 07:15 PM
Hi. New to the board. Big Ron & Fez fan. Been listening with great joy since they came on XM. Anyway... this XM suspension of O&A is about two things that converge - mainly the bastards are desperate to get their merger done and they are very fearful of anything that might be perceived as a wrench, thus the heavy handed approach to O&A. Second there has been an increasing chorus of those who want satellite radio, regardless of any possible merger to fall under the FCC and its censorship-ability. Thus I think the XM brain-trust with direct encouragement from their Sirius counterparts suspended O&A to help the merger and second for some silly idea of showing they can police themselves, thus hoping the censorship hounds will back off. Both are stupid and will only encourage the opposite of course.

I encourage everyone to write the FCC and ask them to stop the merger. Its bad for free speech, its bad for subscribers and bad for us Ron & Fez fans. Cancelling your subscription will only hurt R&F's numbers while they flagship on 202. Fight the merger - that's the real problem. If it goes through, our favorite shows like O&A and R&F will be endangered if not soon extinct.

Thanks for hearing me out.

Don Stugots
05-16-2007, 07:21 PM
I was looking at some of the Myspace XM Group (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=35216408&groupID=100184578&adTopicID=21&Mytoken=385CBE46-388F-4313-98D3854415F467CA10991204)posts about all of this. Some guy (who identifies himself as a pest), by the name of Axl Rosenburg, started out his post with this...



What an ass.

indeed (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&EntryID=35216408&categoryID=0&groupID=100184578)

danosu85
05-16-2007, 07:26 PM
Dennis Miller is going to weigh in on O&A next on O'Riley.

Dudeman
05-16-2007, 07:34 PM
i wonder if the suspension is partly a publicity scam. they suspend OnA, not fire them. OnA are still on freeFM. no groups were really outraged by this. ona are getting a lot of publicity out of it, that they dont get based on their own stuff. it makes xm look good, to some people. it makes ona fans more loyal in the long run.

considering the amount of $ and exposure ona get by being on national fm radio and xm, they didnt seem to be making a big showing nationally- this is the most they get talked about.

SinA
05-16-2007, 07:35 PM
Hi. New to the board. ....

Thanks for hearing me out.

"User Name" was still available?
Welcome. Please come in, stay, and fill your heart with merry.

prothunderball
05-16-2007, 07:40 PM
i wonder if the suspension is partly a publicity scam. they suspend OnA, not fire them. OnA are still on freeFM. no groups were really outraged by this. ona are getting a lot of publicity out of it, that they dont get based on their own stuff. it makes xm look good, to some people. it makes ona fans more loyal in the long run.

considering the amount of $ and exposure ona get by being on national fm radio and xm, they didnt seem to be making a big showing nationally- this is the most they get talked about.
if it was a publicity stunt-which I don't think it is-it's gone horribly horribly wrong. I can't imagine XM wanting to go along with a stunt that would cost them thousands of subscribers.

coopercock
05-16-2007, 07:41 PM
May be a casual O&A listener, but he is NOT a pest. ALL pests are animals and know Ronnie and Fezzie... Best shows ever are the AFRO shows.

Dudeman
05-16-2007, 08:27 PM
if it was a publicity stunt-which I don't think it is-it's gone horribly horribly wrong. I can't imagine XM wanting to go along with a stunt that would cost them thousands of subscribers.

but all of you ona fans will subscribe again when they are back

Big_D
05-17-2007, 04:07 AM
O&A should not have been suspended for this crap. I'm so fucking sick of these little dicked cocksucking Al Sharpton mother fuckers that think there opinion matters to the rest of the fucking world. If i had a AK-47 they'd all be dead cause i shoot everyone of the mother fuckers, sick sick sick of this shit.

-Dylan says go fuck yourself

SteveinJersey
05-17-2007, 04:20 AM
I'm beginning to think none of this will matter. It's all about the fucking merger. That's ALL they're concerned with, even though I doubt it will go through anyway. XM doesn't give a shit if we cancel or not, they're looking long-term as to how to reposition themselves after this merger when there's only one satellite company around. Mel already has his "shock jock" slot filled so I'm sure he's looking at this as just casting away unnecessary salary commitments for overlapping programming. I don't think we have to wonder how the merger will impact O&A anymore; we know now - and I really fear R&F are next. How ironic is it that FM is the company that stuck by them? I hated the FM show but I was completely wrong. It may be FCC watered-down with bullshit rules, but they had the balls to stick by them and fucking XM (who isn't FCC regulated) fucked them over after so many talks by the likes of E-Lo about how the FCC is killing FM. The FCC might kill FM but fucking mergers and stock analysts and pussies in empty suits killed XM.


This is probably true. The whole motivation behind the merger is the fact that both companies (Sirius & XM) are floundering. They need each other to avoid a financial disaster.

If that's true, it won't matter to XM if 50,000 O&A fans cancel, because they weren't going to save the company anyway. Only a merger, and a whole new slate of family and religious-themed shows will.

As far as the Free-FM show goes, if it's going to stay the way it is now (taking phone calls from soccer moms about funny baby names) they can keep it.

Dan 'Hampton
05-17-2007, 04:24 AM
This is probably true. The whole motivation behind the merger is the fact that both companies (Sirius & XM) are floundering. They need each other to avoid a financial disaster.

If that's true, it won't matter to XM if 50,000 O&A fans cancel, because they weren't going to save the company anyway. Only a merger, and a whole new slate of family and religious-themed shows will.

As far as the Free-FM show goes, if it's going to stay the way it is now (taking phone calls from soccer moms about funny baby names) they can keep it.

Who comes up with this stuff? Both companies have several "shock jocks" why does everyone think that the new company will be Howardcentric? He cost's more then the rest and I don't see how more fans will join for him after the merger. If you're a stern fan you already have Sirius. Lay low you nervous nellies.

geechie
05-17-2007, 04:28 AM
This is probably true. The whole motivation behind the merger is the fact that both companies (Sirius & XM) are floundering. They need each other to avoid a financial disaster.

If that's true, it won't matter to XM if 50,000 O&A fans cancel, because they weren't going to save the company anyway. Only a merger, and a whole new slate of family and religious-themed shows will.

As far as the Free-FM show goes, if it's going to stay the way it is now (taking phone calls from soccer moms about funny baby names) they can keep it.

yeah, that was pretty weak this morning.

Dan 'Hampton
05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
yeah, that was pretty weak this morning.

You gotta look at the bigger picture. The boys are telling you whats going on. You just gotta listen.

IamPixie
05-17-2007, 04:38 AM
O&A should not have been suspended for this crap. I'm so fucking sick of these little dicked cocksucking Al Sharpton mother fuckers that think there opinion matters to the rest of the fucking world. If i had a AK-47 they'd all be dead cause i shoot everyone of the mother fuckers, sick sick sick of this shit.

-Dylan says go fuck yourself

You should join pac instead.

A.J.
05-17-2007, 04:40 AM
I never realized what a self-righteous prick Curtis Sliwa was. He's as bad as a Sharpton or a Shumer for milking an issue to get his mug on TV.

Dan 'Hampton
05-17-2007, 04:43 AM
Him and his French headware are competition.

Lillibaby
05-17-2007, 04:48 AM
Will you people be grateful there even is a FM O & A show at this point? If you guys actually listened, you would find that the guys are just as funny during this portion. Sure, they're limited in what they can do or say, but it's just a different kind of funny.

loach
05-17-2007, 04:59 AM
You gotta look at the bigger picture. The boys are telling you whats going on. You just gotta listen.

I didn't get to hear much today but yesterday worried me. They were pushing hard for the Virus Tour. Like they didn't know how long they would be on the air to talk about it.

Earlshog
05-17-2007, 05:00 AM
I never realized what a self-righteous prick Curtis Sliwa was. He's as bad as a Sharpton or a Shumer for milking an issue to get his mug on TV.


his hack Sliwaisms are fuckin brutal, Al "slim shady" Sharpton, Opie and Dopey, Guvones. What an uptight out of touch dueche. $100 Lisa used to strp one on.

Gvac
05-17-2007, 05:03 AM
Will you people be grateful there even is a FM O & A show at this point? If you guys actually listened, you would find that the guys are just as funny during this portion. Sure, they're limited in what they can do or say, but it's just a different kind of funny.

I listen, but at this point I'm not too sure FreeFM will be around very long.

There's not a single broadcasting company left that will stand up for its employees against the almighty advertising dollar or special interest groups it seems.

crb1
05-17-2007, 05:08 AM
I listen, but at this point I'm not too sure FreeFM will be around very long.

There's not a single broadcasting company left that will stand up for its employees against the almighty advertising dollar or special interest groups it seems.

And it doesn't help that the station as a whole isn't getting the best ratings, and isn't making a ton of cash on their ad billing.

They canned Imus and he actually made them a ton of cash even though his ratings weren't so great, so it's not hard to imagine them abandoning a station that doesn't bill well or have big ratings.

Gvac
05-17-2007, 05:13 AM
I remember years ago when the heat was coming down on Stern hot and heavy. He begged his listeners to support his sponsors and apparently they did. Through all the trouble he got into, advertisers like 1-800-MATTRES and Snapple stuck by him. Because he continued to bring in big bucks for K-Rock, management stood by him.

I think it's one of our best options at this point. If you can use any of the products or services that advertise on O & A's show or Ron and Fez's...by all means do it. If they ask "where did you hear about us?" make sure you tell them.

crb1
05-17-2007, 05:18 AM
I remember years ago when the heat was coming down on Stern hot and heavy. He begged his listeners to support his sponsors and apparently they did. Through all the trouble he got into, advertisers like 1-800-MATTRES and Snapple stuck by him. Because he continued to bring in big bucks for K-Rock, management stood by him.

I think it's one of our best options at this point. If you can use any of the products or services that advertise on O & A's show or Ron and Fez's...by all means do it. If they ask "where did you hear about us?" make sure you tell them.

Actually, Snapple dropped their ads for years. They stuck by him for a while, but Snapple was brought out by Quaker Oats (I believe) and they weren't big fans of Stern (I guess the "Quaker" part is more than just marketing).

Eventually, they started advertising on his show again, but I think it was after Snapple had been sold by Quaker Oats.

AKA
05-17-2007, 05:20 AM
When R&F read the statement on Tuesday, that they began by saying that the news was "half good" -

Do you think it was meant that the half was that they were suspended and not fired...

or do you think it was meant that the Free FM gig was still safe?

I had assumed the second one, but talking with people it got me wondering.

Recyclerz
05-17-2007, 05:54 AM
Story from LA Times and linked from Yahoo Finance

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-shockradio17may17,1,2999850.story?coll=la-headlines-business&ctrack=1&cset=true

HTG and several other listeners quoted. Worth the read.

loach
05-17-2007, 06:23 AM
When R&F read the statement on Tuesday, that they began by saying that the news was "half good" -

Do you think it was meant that the half was that they were suspended and not fired...

or do you think it was meant that the Free FM gig was still safe?

I had assumed the second one, but talking with people it got me wondering.

I think Ronnie was trying to find a bright side when there really wasn't one. Hopefully the Free gig is safe but I don't think so. As to if it is a suspension or firing, Elmo and Dawn have cancelled their XM subscriptions.

AKA
05-17-2007, 07:01 AM
I think Ronnie was trying to find a bright side when there really wasn't one. Hopefully the Free gig is safe but I don't think so. As to if it is a suspension or firing, Elmo and Dawn have cancelled their XM subscriptions.

Well, the bright side is O&A are still collecting a paycheck and can still be heard by people on the radio - still, not too many ways to polish this turd, tho.

And, no disrespect, but until Corky says what he's doing, then I'll start paying attention to siblings of radio hosts.

vjr97
05-17-2007, 07:05 AM
xm u suck!!!!!!!!!!!! this is a PAID service.it's my choice 2 listen............stop caving in like cowards.if it happens again ill cancel my service.i can get sissy censored radio 4 free

loach
05-17-2007, 07:16 AM
Well, the bright side is O&A are still collecting a paycheck and can still be heard by people on the radio - still, not too many ways to polish this turd, tho.

And, no disrespect, but until Corky says what he's doing, then I'll start paying attention to siblings of radio hosts.

I think we are all eagerly awaiting Corky's official announcement.

BoondockSaint
05-17-2007, 07:18 AM
I think we are all eagerly awaiting Corky's official announcement.

He was last seen giving his Inno a Flair chop.

Aqualad
05-17-2007, 01:22 PM
I think we are all eagerly awaiting Corky's official announcement.

"Me tellya somethin' Les kick it up a nawtch"

celery
05-17-2007, 01:31 PM
Hey all,

If you have a digg account, do a search for "opie anthony" and digg up any stories you see which call attention to canceled subs and fan's to the suspension. If you don't have a digg account, it's very simple to create one.

Here are a few examples:

Advertisers start pulling ads from XM because of cencorship (http://digg.com/business_finance/Advertisers_start_pulling_ads_from_XM_because_of_c encorship)
XM customer backlash gains momentum (http://digg.com/world_news/XM_customer_backlash_gains_momentum)

I think that leveraging social news sites will be more effective than signing an online petition, and it's an area where we could actually make a difference. I noticed that Drudge Report has picked up this story and that is HUGE. The backlash is gaining momentum!

angrymissy
05-17-2007, 01:58 PM
Hey all,

If you have a digg account, do a search for "opie anthony" and digg up any stories you see which call attention to canceled subs and fan's to the suspension. If you don't have a digg account, it's very simple to create one.

Here are a few examples:

Advertisers start pulling ads from XM because of cencorship (http://digg.com/business_finance/Advertisers_start_pulling_ads_from_XM_because_of_c encorship)
XM customer backlash gains momentum (http://digg.com/world_news/XM_customer_backlash_gains_momentum)

I think that leveraging social news sites will be more effective than signing an online petition, and it's an area where we could actually make a difference. I noticed that Drudge Report has picked up this story and that is HUGE. The backlash is gaining momentum!

Censorship is misspelled in the first article.

danosu85
05-17-2007, 02:07 PM
Their are also lots of groups on facebook and myspace that we can join to show our support.

MyCheesy
05-17-2007, 02:16 PM
Who comes up with this stuff? Both companies have several "shock jocks" why does everyone think that the new company will be Howardcentric? He cost's more then the rest and I don't see how more fans will join for him after the merger. If you're a stern fan you already have Sirius. Lay low you nervous nellies.

Im a Stern fan and dont have Sirius. Im also a Ron Fez fan and dont have xm. Why would anyone pya for xm when ron fez and dopie and anthony are on free fm. When they merge I will buy the new service to get stern.

underdog
05-17-2007, 03:34 PM
Im a Stern fan and dont have Sirius. Im also a Ron Fez fan and dont have xm. Why would anyone pya for xm when ron fez and dopie and anthony are on free fm. When they merge I will buy the new service to get stern.

Because RnF haven't always been on XM. And the FreeFM show is much different than the XM show.

JokesaboutPants
05-17-2007, 04:36 PM
Just because it's fun to pay for things...And when Ron, Fez, Opie or Anthony say fuk shit, milk, watch, hat or rubble on XM my two year old son and all his friends in my Astro van get all giggles....hehehehehehe..

JokesaboutPants
05-17-2007, 04:39 PM
I must be honest

I have no son and my son of which I don't have has no friends...I do wish I had an Astro Van however.


Still fun to pay for things Myfriend.

Dan 'Hampton
05-17-2007, 05:05 PM
Im a Stern fan and dont have Sirius. Im also a Ron Fez fan and dont have xm. Why would anyone pya for xm when ron fez and dopie and anthony are on free fm. When they merge I will buy the new service to get stern.

So you're cheap.

fubr
05-17-2007, 06:43 PM
Feels like I am in the movie groundhog day!!!


not that I dont love Ron and FEz but God Damn, 4 times in 24 hours........
I canceled mine, free FM does me no good in the south.

TheRealEddie
05-17-2007, 08:46 PM
Because RnF haven't always been on XM. And the FreeFM show is much better than the XM show.

fixed... sad but nothin beats NY only callers...

Don Stugots
05-17-2007, 08:54 PM
Im a Stern fan and dont have Sirius. Im also a Ron Fez fan and dont have xm. Why would anyone pya for xm when ron fez and dopie and anthony are on free fm. When they merge I will buy the new service to get stern.

you dont know what you are missing. if it is a question of money, then i understand. if it is out of principle then i dont.

Because RnF haven't always been on XM. And the FreeFM show is much different than the XM show.


they are two totally different shows. even the hosts will tell you that.

chef_anthony
05-17-2007, 10:01 PM
Don't get me wrong I love Ron and Fez but they can't carry a whole XM channel with 3 hours of material. I can't belive they are gonna repeat the show over and over and over. Lets hope it is not your mom's box for O and A

Tenbatsuzen
05-17-2007, 10:04 PM
Don't get me wrong I love Ron and Fez but they can't carry a whole XM channel with 3 hours of material. I can't belive they are gonna repeat the show over and over and over. Lets hope it is not your mom's box for O and A

What are you talking about? What is the problem? It's basically R&F on-demand.

Don Stugots
05-17-2007, 10:07 PM
What are you talking about? What is the problem? It's basically R&F on-demand.

i wouldnt mind the FM show being tossed into the mix. maybe a second show can get a try out. somethng.

canker_sore
05-18-2007, 12:15 AM
By this time next month. The new boss of the future merged company, Mel Karmazin, hates them and by having them fired it will show the govt that they can police themselves.

Over the past year the boys show has really sucked anyways..they talked to much about guys cocks and Jimmy should just admit he is bi-sexual..he is so angry!

theclumsyox
05-18-2007, 12:23 AM
What are you talking about? What is the problem? It's basically R&F on-demand.

It's terrible. I love Ron and Fez. I would love to see them have their own channel. But how about streaming the Free FM (for those of us outside the NY area) on XM or at least playing best of R&F instead of the same 3 hours 8 times a day. Its ridiculous. Hopefully they can switch it up next week. It was probably just too sudden to have any other programming lined up.

theclumsyox
05-18-2007, 12:26 AM
Over the past year the boys show has really sucked anyways..they talked to much about guys cocks and Jimmy should just admit he is bi-sexual..he is so angry!

The show hasn't "really sucked", and who doesn't love a little cock talk. I think over the past year they have had some great interviews: Ricky Gervais, and Quentin Tarentino to only name a few. Sometimes not all 5 hours a day are amazing, but I have still immensely enjoyed the show.

sailor
05-18-2007, 02:40 AM
By this time next month. The new boss of the future merged company, Mel Karmazin, hates them and by having them fired it will show the govt that they can police themselves.

Over the past year the boys show has really sucked anyways..they talked to much about guys cocks and Jimmy should just admit he is bi-sexual..he is so angry!

so, are you really sad, or really happy? or just schizo?

Dan 'Hampton
05-18-2007, 03:25 AM
By this time next month. The new boss of the future merged company, Mel Karmazin, hates them and by having them fired it will show the govt that they can police themselves.

Over the past year the boys show has really sucked anyways..they talked to much about guys cocks and Jimmy should just admit he is bi-sexual..he is so angry!

Two things. The merger won't be done in a month and i'm pretty sure that if Mel was making decisions on the board of xm right now that would be colusion and a good reason why the government wouldn't alow the merger. But if you really feel thats whats happening maybe you should call the government and tip them.

sailor
05-18-2007, 03:28 AM
Two things. The merger won't be done in a month and i'm pretty sure that if Mel was making decisions on the board of xm right now that would be colusion and a good reason why the government wouldn't alow the merger. But if you really feel thats whats happening maybe you should call the government and tip them.

snitches get stitches.

Dan 'Hampton
05-18-2007, 03:33 AM
I'm willing to let him get stitches.

sailor
05-18-2007, 03:34 AM
I'm willing to let him get stitches.

fair 'nough.

nabors0880
05-18-2007, 08:06 AM
XM isn't punishing O&A they are punishing the listeners. If they have a problem with content than they should fine them or something. but nwhat the Hell did they do that was any different than any other time? The worlds going to hell in a handbasket I tell you.

Dan 'Hampton
05-18-2007, 08:17 AM
I do agree with you about the listeners taking the brunt of this but I really don't think XM suspended them for what was said. It was more for them vaguely metioning the situation they were in. You can see how XM would rather of had this go away, which it was, instead of having to drop OnA for the next month.

HumpmanHanks
05-18-2007, 08:24 AM
Here could be another explanation.....

http://radionewshound.blogspot.com/2007/05/could-opie-anthony-suspension-be.html

Could the wool be getting pulled over doth eyes?

BabyLuvWhatley
05-18-2007, 08:35 AM
Here could be another explanation.....

http://radionewshound.blogspot.com/2007/05/could-opie-anthony-suspension-be.html

Could the wool be getting pulled over doth eyes?


We can only hope.... Have R&F said anything about the studio actually being under construction? Seems if they want to take advantage of the 30 days they should already have started... and if they don't start cnstruction it may be because O&A really aren't coming back. I'm sore frustrated.

HumpmanHanks
05-18-2007, 08:40 AM
I think there was some discussion about it yesterday on the XM show, but as they discussed it I was thinking that it was pointless and probably wasn't going to be happening.

BabyLuvWhatley
05-18-2007, 08:40 AM
We can only hope.... Have R&F said anything about the studio actually being under construction? Seems if they want to take advantage of the 30 days they should already have started... and if they don't start cnstruction it may be because O&A really aren't coming back. I'm sore frustrated.

Also, like a day or 2 before Charlie came in O&A had a meeting with E-Lo and some research guy and they were kissing the boys asses about how great they were doing, could that meeting have been skripting the whole fake suspension...

billgio
05-18-2007, 08:48 AM
There is no way the XM execs would OK a fake suspension and risk tens of thousands of subscriptions.

ralphbxny
05-18-2007, 08:53 AM
I feel like i have been had...Im now a rube!!

HumpmanHanks
05-18-2007, 08:53 AM
Maybe the research guy really couldn't tell exactly who or how people listen to the O&A show.

Rember back in late 2006 there were polls on Wackbag asking how people listened to the O&A show?

This could give an idea as to how many listen via XM and what the ratings would be like for the CBS show without the XM simulcast

HumpmanHanks
05-18-2007, 09:03 AM
There is no way the XM execs would OK a fake suspension and risk tens of thousands of subscriptions.

Maybe look at it from the angle that XM is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

They have to many factions to please. So by suspending O&A they please the activists and the people behind the merger, but at the same time, they create a huge public outcry giving publicity to the boys and also the ability to gain numbers as to the amount of people that listen to O&A.

The hardcore fans that cancelled would renew in a second if O&A come back to XM.

J.Clints
05-18-2007, 09:06 AM
Would you be as mad about the Suspension if the replays had not been cancelled? I think I would be a little less pissed if they didnt shit on us as fans.

Sweet_Ness
05-18-2007, 09:30 AM
Would you be as mad about the Suspension if the replays had not been cancelled? I think I would be a little less pissed if they didnt shit on us as fans.
yeah...

billgio
05-18-2007, 09:31 AM
Maybe look at it from the angle that XM is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

They have to many factions to please. So by suspending O&A they please the activists and the people behind the merger, but at the same time, they create a huge public outcry giving publicity to the boys and also the ability to gain numbers as to the amount of people that listen to O&A.

The hardcore fans that cancelled would renew in a second if O&A come back to XM.

I understand the logic and I would probably agree if it were terrestrial radio. But from my experience in corporate America I maintain that there is NO CHANCE the management at a public company that is struggling financially would take a chance of losing millions of annual revenue just to get a feel how many hardcore fans there are. Even if they are back Monday morning they will not regain 100% of those who canceled.

Fat_Sunny
05-18-2007, 10:07 AM
How About A 50/50 Compromise To Give Both Sides A Victory: Bring Back Anthony Only!

johnniewalker
05-18-2007, 10:08 AM
How About A 50/50 Compromise To Give Both Sides A Victory: Bring Back Anthony Only!

Hey you already have a spat with douggrasso, I think you've caused enough trouble.

Fat_Sunny
05-18-2007, 10:16 AM
Hey you already have a spat with douggrasso, I think you've caused enough trouble.

Yeah, Fat Heard That When He Was Driving To Lunch And Was Like WTF. He's Never Met Doug And Never In His Life Did He Call Anyone An "Asshat". Dave Must Have Mixed Up F_S With Someone Else, Or Just Made Him Into Some Composite Character.

F_S Is Not Gonna Sue, Though.

deliciousV
05-18-2007, 10:48 AM
Wackbag has a letter writing campaign going to the FTC to stop the merger on the grounds that it is a monopoly. They have managed to push at least 2 sponsors off of XM, coffee and dildo's I believe. Also loyal fans are gonna be out the price of new radio's . If this was a ruse, it might not have been very well thought out.

Aqualad
05-18-2007, 02:49 PM
How About A 50/50 Compromise To Give Both Sides A Victory: Bring Back Anthony Only!

I'm telling ya, the way to go is Radio Supergroup. Ron, Fezzie, Anthony, Patrice. I would listen all day every day, and so would you.

ralphbxny
05-18-2007, 02:54 PM
I'm telling ya, the way to go is Radio Supergroup. Ron, Fezzie, Anthony, Patrice. I would listen all day every day, and so would you.

I need Opie....he is mean for no reason...I find that endearing!

sailor
05-18-2007, 02:57 PM
I'm telling ya, the way to go is Radio Supergroup. Ron, Fezzie, Anthony, Patrice. I would listen all day every day, and so would you.

nah, love patrice, but he tends to hi-jack shows which isn't always a fun thing.

ralphbxny
05-18-2007, 02:59 PM
nah, love patrice, but he tends to hi-jack shows which isn't always a fun thing.

see its moments like this when people say Ralphbxny....I thought he was Sailors board character!

sailor
05-18-2007, 03:01 PM
see its moments like this when people say Ralphbxny....I thought he was Sailors board character!

if anything my name would be the board character. some people see me as a board character already. like a fat/sunny without the gimmick.

Aqualad
05-18-2007, 03:04 PM
nah, love patrice, but he tends to hi-jack shows which isn't always a fun thing.

Mr. B could break him.

sailor
05-18-2007, 03:08 PM
Mr. B could break him.

ewwww

or

wouldn't that be fez's job?

johnniewalker
05-18-2007, 03:17 PM
I need Opie....he is mean for no reason...I find that endearing!

He makes interviews great too.

Heather 8
05-18-2007, 05:09 PM
Mr. B could break him.

I'm getting a very bad Roots vibe...

Sleestack
05-18-2007, 05:16 PM
could it just be a publicity stunt ?they have said things at least 10 times worse than homeless charlie. getting atention is what they about . everybody gonna be pissed in a month when O&A tell everyone it was a fake supension

FezPaul
05-18-2007, 05:34 PM
if anything my name would be the board character. some people see me as a board character already. like a fat/sunny without the gimmick.

Or the humor. :tongue:

SinA
05-18-2007, 05:54 PM
everyone else catching on on the drastic increase in xmsignal emails and xm ads on tv?
i don't think that's a coincidence.

sailor
05-18-2007, 05:55 PM
Or the humor. :tongue:

ouchies all over the place

SinA
05-18-2007, 05:59 PM
XM isn't punishing O&A they are punishing the listeners. If they have a problem with content than they should fine them or something. but nwhat the Hell did they do that was any different than any other time? The worlds going to hell in a handbasket I tell you.

the noob is right. i wrote to xm today and asked if they were ready to apologize to US, the listeners, for failing to provide us uncensored entertainment that we literally bought into.

even if O&A come back, we know that they'll always have to censor themselves because XM won't back them up. xm dropped the ball, and i don't know how they can regain their integrity after this.

feralBoy
05-18-2007, 06:26 PM
the noob is right. i wrote to xm today and asked if they were ready to apologize to US, the listeners, for failing to provide us uncensored entertainment that we literally bought into.

even if O&A come back, we know that they'll always have to censor themselves because XM won't back them up. xm dropped the ball, and i don't know how they can regain their integrity after this.

But XM has never let them down before. But when you need government approval for a merger, and two of your high profile hosts joke around with a homeless man about raping the secretary of state, what was XM and Sirius to do? The truth is, for XM, the merger is WAY bigger than OnA and censorship. The suspension (if it even was a real one) was not about censorship, it was about playing ball with the goverment.

sailor
05-18-2007, 06:29 PM
But XM has never let them down before. But when you need government approval for a merger, and two of your high profile hosts joke around with a homeless man about raping the secretary of state, what was XM and Sirius to do? The truth is, for XM, the merger is WAY bigger than OnA and censorship. The suspension (if it even was a real one) was not about censorship, it was about playing ball with the goverment.

except there was no public or government outcry. some news (and pseudo-news) sites picked it up, but i don't think anyone else gave a crap.

docgoblin
05-18-2007, 06:42 PM
But XM has never let them down before. But when you need government approval for a merger, and two of your high profile hosts joke around with a homeless man about raping the secretary of state, what was XM and Sirius to do? The truth is, for XM, the merger is WAY bigger than OnA and censorship. The suspension (if it even was a real one) was not about censorship, it was about playing ball with the goverment.

And the word "RAPE" never entered into the conversation. That is a key point, because that is the term all the media outlets ran with. That word was never, never, never uttered by anyone involved in the incident.

Captain Rooster
05-18-2007, 07:09 PM
Read Farenheit 451 ... and in response, I'll quote the song "Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums" by A Perfect Circle:

"Don't fret precious I'm here, step away from the window
Go back to sleep
Safe from pain
and truth
and choice
and other poison devils,

See, they don't give a fuck about you, like I do.

Count the bodies like sheep
Count the bodies like sheep

Counting bodies like sheep
To the rhythm of the war drums

Go back to sleep
Go back to sleep"

Bay Ridge Tim
05-18-2007, 07:10 PM
Sorry if this has been posted, but here are the email addresses for a lot of XM execs (http://consumerist.com/consumer/state-of-the-backlash/xm-radio-executive-contact-info-261658.php).

deliciousV
05-18-2007, 07:23 PM
right now would be a great time for some Jewish organization to start attacking religious programming on the radio, saying that the constant mentions of the crucifiction of Christ, or just any mention of Christ for that matter, is offensive. The religious right would come screaming out of nowhere and any further talk of limiting freedoms of speech would be squashed. The do-gooder religious righty's need to be reminded ocasionally that they can be considered offensive to others too.

Tenbatsuzen
05-18-2007, 07:50 PM
This is not a free speech issue, this is an insubordination issue.

johnniewalker
05-18-2007, 07:52 PM
This is not a free speech issue, this is an insubordination issue.

True if you believe xm's explanation and you live in a bubble devoid of the mainstream media

deliciousV
05-18-2007, 08:15 PM
This is not a free speech issue, this is an insubordination issue.

Oh yea, I forgot.

SinA
05-18-2007, 08:40 PM
This is not a free speech issue, this is an insubordination issue.

t-shirts v. suits

xm buckled when they made the boys apologize in the first place
they lost the upper hand and they might never get it back
it's a matter of principle and precedent

HBox
05-18-2007, 09:01 PM
t-shirts v. suits

xm buckled when they made the boys apologize in the first place
they lost the upper hand and they might never get it back
it's a matter of principle and precedent

If O&A didn't want to give the apology in the first place they should have refused. To give one and then act like you were obviously insincere is a bit of a pussy move of their own.

I think XM is just paranoid about the merger as mentioned. I doubt Condoleeza Rice or Laura Bush care much about the comments. And i doubt the FCC cares much either. But with the way the merger is looking they don't want to take even the slightest chance.

Tenbatsuzen
05-18-2007, 09:08 PM
True if you believe xm's explanation and you live in a bubble devoid of the mainstream media

The MSM would have dropped the story if XM hadn't suspended them.

slick Rick
05-18-2007, 09:26 PM
Were are Ron's balls that he's continually talking about having. These are supposed to be his boys. Not a word other than he doesn't think this is the forum (the show) to discuss or talk about this. Hmmmmmm shoe on the other foot guess what Opie and Anthony would be talking about, hmmmmmm shall we revisit the Imus firing.

Come on Ron an Fez you are here WHY????? Your XM gig is because of Opie, your CBS gig is because of........

You know the deal stand up and grow a pair.