Cancel Your XM Subscription?

[Furtherman]

I've seen some people say that they've cancelled their subscription.

I was just about to but thought, wait, will this really make a difference?

I just wanted to get a feel of how many people are cancelling, and is there any one out there in the business that would know what an impact this would make?

I'm torn because even though this is a matter between O&A and management, and not so much about what some homeless guy said, I still think it is bullshit that they are suspended for 30 days.

Edit: And this means NOT taking any free offers from XM!

[Hottub]

I don't think I can do it. I listen to a bunch of other stations as well. Giving up XM would be like a junkie giving up his crack pipe.

[crb1]

I don't think I can do it. I listen to a bunch of other stations as well. Giving up XM would be like a junkie giving up his crack pipe.

I'm not going to cancel, but I am considering suspending it for 30 days.

I'm still trying to figure out what they apparently said yesterday to bring this about.

[johnniewalker]

on hold for 20 minutes now

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Not Unless Ron & Fez Is Cancelled, I like O&A but Love Ron & Fez

:king:

[PapaBear]

I don't understand the people who cancelled it. Sure... they have the right to be mad, but what are they going to do when the 30 days is up? Will they stop being fans of the show they like?

[Dirtybird12]

xm is a good service.


I wont change my sub. Could've been worse. Could've been fired.

[njpete]

I voted yes, but the reality is that I'll call and demand a 30 day credit (since I've prepaid for the year) and if O & A don't come back, I'll cancel permanently. I'll get my R & F fix via the Free FM show.

[whiskyriver]

http://www.orbitcast,comI'm not going to cancel, but I am considering suspending it for 30 days.

I'm still trying to figure out what they apparently said yesterday to bring this about.

[mikeyboy]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

[EliSnow]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

I concur.

[crb1]

http://www.orbitcast,com (http://www.orbitcast.com)

That's it? It didn't seem to merit a 30-day suspension.

[Midkiff]

I cancelled one, but I kept one for Ron and Fez. They are my number one. Otherwise, it would be curtains for XM.

[Don Stugots]

I don't think I can do it. I listen to a bunch of other stations as well. Giving up XM would be like a junkie giving up his crack pipe.

same here. the ipod just doesnt cut it anymore.

[PapaBear]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

I concur.
Same here. But you wouldn't cancel if R&F were suspended, would you? (not talking about you two) I just don't understand why some are cancelling over a suspension. I'd be pissed as HELL if R&F were suspended. But I wouldn't deprive myself of the opportunity to hear them once the suspension was over.

[Doogie]

I say we exercise patience and see where this suspension goes. In the meantime though, many have to get involved with PAC (www.peopleagainstcensorship.com). On paltalk before there were all these people already cancelling and I think that isnt smart cause they need to see what happens.

[DolaMight]

I just called in and canceled my subscription. She asked for my reason, I said because of the suspension.

She was very nice about the whole situation, so I casually asked if there was alot of cancellations today and she said it's been constant and that many customers were upset. She also agreed that if you pay for a service you should have the ultimate say regarding the content not the media dictating what's proper.

She then offered the "one month credit" for the one month they will be suspended. I refused stating that I rarely listen to O&A and that I am a daily Ron&Fez listener who is willing to do without because I don't want their comedy stymied by a constant fear of being fired for something they or a guest may say. A one month buy off was not good enough, don't take the bait.

She then noted that as the reason for cancellation and assured me my complaint will be heard.

The nice thing about XM is that their service can be reactivated at any time, put some fear in them and let them think you will never come back.

[Midkiff]

Could've been worse. Could've been fired.

Wait for it....

[burrben]

Not Unless Ron & Fez Is Cancelled, I like O&A but Love Ron & Fez



my thoughts exactly

[Midkiff]

http://www.orbitcast,com

They didn't say SHIT.

[BeerBandit]

I can't try it now because I'm at work, but once I get home I will call XM to demand a 1 month refund/credit. As of now O&A are suspended for 30 days, so I won't cancel my sub. But my money is for the whole package.

[Death Metal Moe]

I got XM for Ron and Fez.

But, if O&A get fired over this, I will cancel and just get Ron and Fez's show off bit torrent sites so I can fuck XM.

This has already ruined XM. You're supposed to be free to say whatever you want, and they took that away from O&A. This changed the entire atmosphere over there.

FM is on the ropes, now XM gives in. I'm so fucking mad I could spit.

[topless_mike]

i dont have an xm subscription...
no credit for me.

[DolaMight]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

Something has happened to Ron and Fez. Ron was serious when he told Dave "be less Dave". R&F now have to work with the fear of being suspended/fired at XM just like at CBS.

I canceled my subscription for R&F not for O&A.

I never thought I'd say this but I'm gonna miss listening to a man drinking his own urine.

[Borss]

I tried to cancel my two accounts for 30 days but they offered me a free month on both accounts, which is effectively the same thin to me. It still cost them 30 days of my subscription revenue.

[Fezticle98]

If I didn't sign up for a year contract, I would go ahead and cancel.

I can listen to R&F and O&A on Free FM and tell XM to BITE ME as far as the XM shows go. What extra value does the XM show have if they are going to be censored and suspended?

Not like it's difficult to find those shows anyway.

[ChrisTheCop]

Wait for it....

Exactly. How can you not assume that that is the next step? After Imus, JV and Elvis...it was always an innocent looking suspension first.

This is really scary. I'm joining PAC as soon as I'm done typing this.

These suspensions all resulted from people specifically listening to the programs TO BE OFFENDED. They were sitting. listening. waiting for SOMETHING to jump on.

Now that theyve hit 3 shows, if you dont think Ron and Fez are next on the list, youre an idiot.

If that happens, I WILL cancel XM. I can always get baseball somewhere else.

Doogie, please edit your post: it's www.peopleagainstcensorship.ORG (http://www.peopleagainstcensorship.org/)

[mastert]

I called to suspend my subscription for 30 days. They gave me a credit for my 3 radios and kept my sub active. I also e mailed eric Logan, Hugh panero, and Gary Parsons, and let them know of my dis satisfaction with their decision. Now this militant Sharpton is getting involved, by asking for their firing. Cmon, lets face it ONa are going to be fired! I hate to say it, or even think it. I listen to ONa from 3 to 7:30pm, and RNF from 12 to 3 because I'm on the road every day. I don't know of anyone who was allowed to continue broadcast after being suspended.
I usually keep my mouth shut, and don't post on any sites, don't call the shows, I just listen. Now any more. Lets all be heard. Hope it helps. BRING BACK THE BOYS!

[SinA]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

i hope you realize that the fear of suspension or firing will cause ron and fez to hold back. this disrupts the free and open nature of the ron and fez show. from now on you're listening to ron at 95%, 85%, or whatever. sure, even a little ron is still great, but why should he have to bite his tongue?

i'm not going to tolerate other people deciding what I can and can't listen to, even if that means the shows i like censoring themselves, especially if i'm paying for it.

[JPMNICK]

i hope you realize that the fear of suspension or firing will cause ron and fez to hold back. this disrupts the free and open nature of the ron and fez show. from now on you're listening to ron at 95%, 85%, or whatever. sure, even a little ron is still great, but why should he have to bite his tongue?

i'm not going to tolerate other people deciding what I can and can't listen to, even if that means the shows i like censoring themselves, especially if i'm paying for it.

Ron at .3% is better than either replays, or no good talk radio at all. if R&F and O&A were gone, after having them on XM for the past few years, it would be a massive transition for me.

[Zorro]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

To me this just means Ron and Fez are next. Cancelling...

[suggums]

Guys and gals please get involved with People Against Censorship. They are the most viable option to get your voice heard without sacrificing your ability to listen to XM. XM should not be bowing to the media over this, there's no special interest group attached to this incident and from what I can tell it started with Drudge giving this front page coverage. XM really needs to listen to their customers here, and more importantly stand up for what they already believe in.

I thought an integral part of the XM philosophy was offering uncensored broadcasts. This decision is a complete turnaround to what they have espoused until the last couple weeks, probably made by the elite corporate oligarchy that have been shitting themselves every day since Don Imus was fired. There is no morality or backbone in companies like XM and CBS when they act in this manner. Get involved, and remind them why we're really listening.

People Against Censorship (www.peopleagainstcensorship.com)

[cupcakelove]

I had XM before Ron and Fez made the move, but if XM begins censoring their content, it looses one of its main appeals for me. I will not be canceling my sub today, I'm going to wait this out and see where it goes first.

[DolaMight]

To me this just means Ron and Fez are next. Cancelling...

Exactly, it may sound weird to cancel XM have no R&F, but really in the long run it will mean more R&F. XM has to realize that we are serious and we don't want censorship of any kind.

Remember you can reactivate your radio at any time, just make them think you'll never be back. Don't take the free 12 bucks. And maybe, maybe it will be XM CEO Hugh Panero making the apology not O&A.

[SouthpawWB]

I just called to cancel for the 30 days O&A are suspended and after being on hold for a half hour they offered me 3 free months. I accepted and told them if either O&A or Ron & Fez are fired then I will cancel even if it is free and that under those circumstances I would cancel even if they were paying me to listen.

Obviously they are being overewhelmed by cancellation &/or complaint calls today - if you are considering doing this I wouldn't wait for an organized effort because the momentum is happening right now. Even if you signed up for Ron & Fez you should still call and get your free month(s) out of them. The bigger the backlash the less likely they will be to fuck with our shows the next time.

Southpaw from Wackbag...

[DolaMight]

Guys and gals please get involved with People Against Censorship. They are the most viable option to get your voice heard without sacrificing your ability to listen to XM. XM should not be bowing to the media over this, there's no special interest group attached to this incident and from what I can tell it started with Drudge giving this front page coverage. XM really needs to listen to their customers here, and more importantly stand up for what they already believe in.

I thought an integral part of the XM philosophy was offering uncensored broadcasts. This decision is a complete turnaround to what they have espoused until the last couple weeks, probably made by the elite corporate oligarchy that have been shitting themselves every day since Don Imus was fired. There is no morality or backbone in companies like XM and CBS when they act in this manner. Get involved, and remind them why we're really listening.

People Against Censorship (www.peopleagainstcensorship.com)

You need to do both, money speaks louder that protesting. Sharpton and his marching band of 50 followers did not get Imus fired. It was when the money dissapeared, the advertisers pulling out, that they pulled the plug. Protest by pulling your sub, and at the same time Protest by marching.

[EliSnow]

i hope you realize that the fear of suspension or firing will cause ron and fez to hold back. this disrupts the free and open nature of the ron and fez show. from now on you're listening to ron at 95%, 85%, or whatever. sure, even a little ron is still great, but why should he have to bite his tongue?

Ron and Fez have been hilarious for years on radio that has been regulated by the FCC. Shit, most of their careers were on such radio. Yes, they could say more than they can now on terrestrial radio, but in that sense, they have always been biting their tongues, and have been phenomonal.

The situation sucks, but Ron and Fez can be funny in any situation.

I'll cancel if I see some firings, but until then, I'll wait and see.

[SinA]

So I called XM customer service several times and I swear they kept hanging up. Finally after waiting on hold for a LONG ass time, got through to a guy who actually spoke English, he said he's a "trainer." I guess all the other customer reps are busy today? I said I wanted to cancel (didn't mention O&A, that was usually the last thing I said before they hung up), and he offered me "a deal."

Now, on principle I know I should have said "NO DEAL" and canceled, but I took the deal. I now pay $5.99/month for a year. I think they'll bill it as a one-time payment of $71. Sure, it doesn't show up as a lost sub. Shit, now that I think about it and knowing how shady accountants are, it probably shows up as a new sub.

Still, I listen to O&A and R&F, so now I'm basically just paying for R&F. I can still cancel in 30 days or whatever. Whatever everyone else is gonna do. Apparently I'm too weak to cancel on my own, but if HTG wants me to, I think I can go through with it.

[DolaMight]

Ron and Fez have been hilarious for years on radio that has been regulated by the FCC. Shit, most of their careers were on such radio. Yes, they could say more than they can now on terrestrial radio, but in that sense, they have always been biting their tongues, and have been phenomonal.

The situation sucks, but Ron and Fez can be funny in any situation.

I'll cancel if I see some firings, but until then, I'll wait and see.

No ones doubts that they will be just as funny no matter what rules they follow, they've already proven that. Why should they follow any rules when we pay for them to say anything they want? You're just showing them who makes the rules by canceling, with no money coming in they will have to listen. It's basically a stockholder vote.

[stump12]

They havent been fired yet. And Ron Fez are still on the air. I dont know if I could go back to commercial radio.

[PapaBear]

Ron and Fez have been hilarious for years on radio that has been regulated by the FCC. Shit, most of their careers were on such radio. Yes, they could say more than they can now on terrestrial radio, but in that sense, they have always been biting their tongues, and have been phenomonal.

The situation sucks, but Ron and Fez can be funny in any situation.

I'll cancel if I see some firings, but until then, I'll wait and see.
Exactly. Remember the conversations people were having in the time between WJFK and XM? People were saying how R&F probably wouldn't even be that dirty on XM. People felt they'd do pretty much the same show as they did on FM, but with less fear. A lot of people even said they hoped R&F wouldn't change.

[EliSnow]

No ones doubts that they will be just as funny no matter what rules they follow, they've already proven that. Why should they follow any rules when we pay for them to say anything they want? You're just showing them who makes the rules by canceling, with no money coming in they will have to listen. It's basically a stockholder vote.

Listen, there are always going to be some rules on what radio hosts can say, wherever they are. They work for corporations who can be swayed by public opinion, sales, etc. Yes, they can say more than they can on terrestrial radio, but when I subscribed to the service, I was under no misconceptions that there would be no rules whatsoever.

I signed up because I wanted to hear Ron and Fez, and because I wanted some variety in my music. It's cool to hear them say "fuck" "cunt" etc., but I'd listen to them wherever they are.

[SinA]

i haven't voted in the poll yet, i'm waiting for someone to add an option for "pee in my butt"

[DolaMight]

Listen, there are always going to be some rules on what radio hosts can say. Yes, they can say more than they can on terrestrial radio, but when I subscribed to the service, I was under no misconceptions that there would be no rules whatsoever.

I signed up because I wanted to hear Ron and Fez, and because I wanted some variety in my music. It's cool to hear them say "fuck" "cunt" etc., but I'd listen to them wherever they are.

I agree, the "fuck shit cunt" matters nothing to me either. I am not proposing everyone cancel their subscriptions forever, just make them think you are. Just asking for a one month sacrifice of no R&F so the buddays don't have to work in an environment of fear that if they have a homeless guy in studio who says some dumbshit off the cuff they wont be suspended as well.

[Furtherman]

i haven't voted in the poll yet, i'm waiting for someone to add an option for "pee in my butt"


I refuse to be part of the butt peein' crowd.

[reillyluck]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

I concur.

i double concur. If R&F are ever gone (crossing my phingers that dont happen) im cancelling the subscription.

[angrymissy]

i double concur. If R&F are ever gone (crossing my phingers that dont happen) im cancelling the subscription.

Triple concur!

[Don Stugots]

i double concur. If R&F are ever gone (crossing my phingers that dont happen) im cancelling the subscription.

quaded.

[angrymissy]

What kind of sucks is, people are canceling their subs and saying "I will just listen to Ron and Fez in the paltalk room". Kind of fucks over Ron and Fez.

[ChrisTheCop]

I just sent a calm, properly worded email to XM, asking them not to cave in to special interests because XM is what is supposed to be special.

I noted that I realize theyre losing customers due to this suspension, and warned them that if they were to do this to Ron and Fez, I too would be leaving.

You can email them too! (http://www.xmradio.com/contact_us/customer_support.jsp)

[ShowerBench]

Why? I subscribed for Ron and Fez.

When Ron and Fez are cancelled/suspended I'll cancel/suspend XM.

[E'ville_Doug]

i am calling now to threaten to cancel.

if i can find a way to download rnf i will definitely cancel

i tried to join the pac but it wouldn't accept any username i gave it, it just kept asking me to use 0-9,a-z,A-Z

I'LL TRY LATER

[angrymissy]

i am calling now to threaten to cancel.

if i can find a way to download rnf i will definitely cancel

i tried to join the pac but it wouldn't accept any username i gave it, it just kept asking me to use 0-9,a-z,A-Z

I'LL TRY LATER

And in the process, you'll fuck over Ron and Fez.

[E'ville_Doug]

If That Was The Case I Would Happily Send Them Money To A Paypal Account.

I've Got No PROBLEM SENDING THEM MONEY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING POLICED BY A NAZI BOOK BURNING REGIME

[Doogie]

Doogie, please edit your post: it's www.peopleagainstcensorship.ORG (http://www.peopleagainstcensorship.org/)

Actually Chris they are both one and the same site. I checked it out myself.

[Zorro]

Ron and Fez are already fucked by this situation. I rarely if ever listen to O&A, but XM needs to feel the pain of subscriber pullout. Ron and Fez are one joke away from being booted anyway.

It took about 30 minutes to finally get an XM rep on the phone then another ten of her trying to tell me I was making a mistake. When I said I just want to cancel she said "Sir, if you don't stop being rude to me I will release the call" After another ten minutes on hold finally got a supervisor and cancelled.

[PapaBear]

If That Was The Case I Would Happily Send Them Money To A Paypal Account.

I've Got No PROBLEM SENDING THEM MONEY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING POLICED BY A NAZI BOOK BURNING REGIME
That wouldn't help them. They need paying listeners to stay employed. If you feel the right thing to do is cancel, then fine. But don't steal from Ron & Fez and pretend you're doing them a favor.

[DolaMight]

And in the process, you'll fuck over Ron and Fez.

Agreed, don't mention bittorrents or paltalk. That totally f's over R&F. If you cancel say you're doing without R&F to protest XM actions.

[Hottub]

That wouldn't help them. They need paying listeners to stay employed. If you feel the right thing to do is cancel, then fine. But don't steal from Ron & Fez and pretend you're doing them a favor.


Excellent point, Papa!! I would like all of you bit torrent people to re-read this comment.

[Gvac]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

[Don Stugots]

Excellent point, Papa!! I would like all of you bit torrent people to re-read this comment.

listening to the XM Ron and Fez show is not the way to help. cancel if you see fit to do so, do not turn around and steal.

[DolaMight]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

Right on GVAC, I love the XM, the Service, and most of all R&F. It's a sacrafice in order to do what's right. You can always call up and re-subscribe once they do what the customer demands. Re-instate O&A and an apogy from Hugh Panero.

[MrPink]

I just got the free trial for Rnf and O&A only to find out O&A are fucked. I don't think cancelling your subscription is going to be very effective. RnF are still on it, do you want them to lose ratings?

[MadBiker]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

Mikeyboy I second that. My XM sub was a gift from BF and he was going to cancel due to NASCAR going to Sirius. He kept it for me just because I wanted R&F.

If R&F go, I am gone. I can get the other programming or music I listen to on regular radio or my iPod.

[E'ville_Doug]

listening to the XM Ron and Fez show is not the way to help. cancel if you see fit to do so, do not turn around and steal.

I don't steal it now, i pay to hear it.

my xm stays on 202 because for music i go to my ipod.

i understand where you are coming from, and i probably wouldn't find a place to download it(i suck at the internets), but i am really pissed off at this whole censorship shit.

sorry buddays

[E'ville_Doug]

still on hold

[Zorro]

Mikeyboy I second that. My XM sub was a gift from BF and he was going to cancel due to NASCAR going to Sirius. He kept it for me just because I wanted R&F.

If R&F go, I am gone. I can get the other programming or music I listen to on regular radio or my iPod.

I understand this thinking, but I go with GVAC on this one

[suggums]

still on hold

for how long? this is kinda encouraging

[Swannee]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

But the email I sent said I would cancel if they were fired

[ChrisTheCop]

Actually Chris they are both one and the same site. I checked it out myself.

well, then your link aint workin brutha!

[AKA]

I can feel the passion - I'd drop it if R&F were suspended for 30 days, and re-up then - or not re-up it if they were canned outright. I think the cancellations do send a message to XM; whether or not they over-ride any fear the suits are having will hopefully depend on people getting involved with PAC to unspin some of the damage the media is creating.

No matter what, this is not good for Ron and Fez - the spotlight on them for a month - people who "weren't listening before" suddenly listening. Very fucked up and frustrating. There is no question they can do any show they need to do, but it is disheartening that (it appears from these actions) that they might not be allowed to do the show they want to do.

[sknight]

This reminds me of the NEW days when R and F were going to bat for all shifts and were pretty much the only DJ's working at that station when o and a got suspended.

I also hope the rumor of the firing is just that.

[E'ville_Doug]

52 minutes and counting

i am about to go home from work so i'll have to start over on my cell

i have about 25,000 minutes in rollover

[Swannee]

CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

I completely agree but I would rather the whole community scare XM into reinstating O and A

[superman319]

Join here and show your support for Opie and Anthony

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2321807093

I am a truck driver and have temporarily suspended my XM service until O&A are reinstated

[BeerBandit]

I completely agree but I would rather the whole community scare XM into reinstating O and A
Calling for a 30 day refund. Still on hold (15 minutes) Ball's in their court. Take away my programming I take away my money. Bring it back, you got me back.

XM 202 is an XL channel. Live and Uncensored.

Or is it?

[furie]

I got XM for ron & fez, not opie & anthony, so no i wouldn't cancel my XM.

[Gvac]

Just in case no one saw it -


CANCELED.

I don't have to tell anybody here how much I love Ron and Fez, but sometimes you have to be able to see the forest beyond the trees.

Saying you don't want to cancel because you "signed up for Ron and Fez" or "I like the other programming" is like being one of those people who refuses to go on strike because "I can't afford it."

You'd rather continue getting fucked for years rather than suffer for a month or two?

I'm sorry, but I'll never understand that way of thinking.

I've fallen in love with XM's other programming too, and it's allowed me to follow my Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Red Wings as well as hear music I don't get to hear on "free" radio. But I'll be damned if I let these cocksuckers off the hook for bowing down to shakedown artists like Sharpton.

[SteveinJersey]

When O&A are gone, the action groups will come for R&F.

[superman319]

This would just be a temporary cancellation until O&A are reinstated, everyone MUST be together on this Ron and Fez could be next. You can never tell what will come out of East Side Dave's mouth next!

[midwestjeff]

Join here and show your support for Opie and Anthony

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2321807093

I am a truck driver and have temporarily suspended my XM service until O&A are reinstated

I just checked out this site and it doesn't appear to be helpful in any way. unless superman elaborates on how it is useful i would not recommend joining. i may be "perrynoid" but it seems a little fishy.

[Bama]

I bought XM to listen to Ron and Fez. I'd only cancel if Ron and Fez got fired.

[mikeyboy]

I understand the sentiments of the R&F fans cancelling XM, and I agree that XM's decision directly fucks over R&F in a number of ways. For instance:

- R&F's content is directly affected by XM's willingness to cowtow
- If O&A are indeed fired, XM may decide not to support 202 anymore and cut R&F loose. If not that, they might not feel that keeping the NY studio open is financially viable, so R&F could be forced to broadcast from DC if they want to stay employed by XM.

I also understand the awful precedent that XM has made in not protecting its so-called "uncensored content".

That all said, at this point in time, I'm not willing to directly fuck over Ron & Fez, as a person who subscribed to hear Ron & Fez, by cancelling my subscription. Make no mistake that if enough 202 listeners abandon the channel, R&F will be fired. Unless I get some indication that R&F are okay with this, I will not hurt them by cancelling. I don't fault or question anyone who decides to cancel, but at this point in time, I will not follow suit.

[STC-Dub]

I am with XM as long as Ron & Fez are there, though I think all of us who plan on staying with FM should sent an e-mail to XM expressing our displeasure with what they did to O&A.

[CXLD_XMRADIO]

I cxl'd my sub. I do enjoy listening to Ron and Fez, but this is a matter of principle. The way I see it is we are the sponsors of both shows, we are the ones to pay money. If these companies are so threatened by sponsorship cancelations, then let them be threatened by this one lone sub.

I spoke to Phillip, an "account rep" at XM. Phillip told me, in his foreign accent, that he enjoys listening to Opie and Anthony too. I told him that I don't believe him. But he reaffirmed that he did. When I asked "Phillip" what FH Reillys is, Phillip told me that he listens to Opie and Anthony, not FH Reilly.

[angrymissy]

I understand the sentiments of the R&F fans cancelling XM, and I agree that XM's decision directly fucks over R&F in a number of ways. For instance:

- R&F's content is directly affected by XM's willingness to cowtow
- If O&A are indeed fired, XM may decide not to support 202 anymore and cut R&F loose. If not that, they might not feel that keeping the NY studio open is financially viable, so R&F could be forced to broadcast from DC if they want to stay employed by XM.

I also understand the awful precedent that XM has made in not protecting its so-called "uncensored content".

That all said, at this point in time, I'm not willing to directly fuck over Ron & Fez, as a person who subscribed to hear Ron & Fez, by cancelling my subscription. Make no mistake that if enough 202 listeners abandon the channel, R&F will be fired. Unless I get some indication that R&F are okay with this, I will not hurt them by cancelling. I don't fault or question anyone who decides to cancel, but at this point in time, I will not follow suit.

What he said!

-We will be calling for the one month credit though, to show our displeasure in the way XM handled this. I was just on hold for 30 minutes and had to hang up

[superman319]

I just checked out this site and it doesn't appear to be helpful in any way. unless superman elaborates on how it is useful i would not recommend joining. i may be "perrynoid" but it seems a little fishy.

This is just a group of unified people grouping together to make our voice heard.
I canceled my XM service temporarily until XM reinstates O&A, I also filed a complaint with XM told them why I'm canceling and left a link to that page, So they can see how many people SUPPORT O&A That is why you should join, but if you dont want to join you dont have to its still a FREE country for the time being anyways

[Gvac]

Again I apologize for deviating from the majority, but to me taking a 30 day credit is having your principles being bought off.

Mine aren't for sale.

[superman319]

Like I said before everyone has to band together and STAND UP for things you believe in. All these special interest groups band together to get what they want we should do the same to.
The sponsors pull out and XM folds Bodog fights use to sponsor instant feedback and where did they go? Thats the last bodog fight I watch!

[Tommy the bass player]

If you want to talk to a HUMAN to cancel your subs, here's the escalation line for customer service...gave to me from the folks at Nathaniel Brown's office. This guy is super nice and understands.
use this line to get your message through ASAP!

1-202-380-4393

Call and CANCEL YOUR SUBS!!

btw, there is no confirmation that the boys have been fired YET...

- Tommy the bass player
aka nataskaos from whackbag

[Mangoat]

Here is a letter I sent to Elo, Hugh et. al.

Sirs,

I am immensely displeased with the suspension, and let's face it,
eventual firing of Gregg Hughes and Anthony Cumia and their staff over
something a guest said on the air. I'm on hold with the cancellations
department right at this moment canceling my accounts. This pains me,
as I thought that XM was going to be the bastion of free speech, and
for the simple fact that Ron and Fez are amazing. But I can not, and
will not, financially support a company that kowtows to knee-jerk
special interest groups.

Enjoy your merger. I'd like to say "Hope you all keep your jobs when
Mel takes over" but that would be dishonest of me.

Radio IDs
xxxxx
xxxxx

Regards,
< me >

[Gvac]

Nice.

Love it, Mangoat.

Yours what slightly nicer than mine, too.

Never in my wildest dreams did I expect Satellite Radio would follow the lead of "free" radio and choose it's sponsors over it's paying customers.

To say that I'm outraged would be an understatement. I am an enormous fan of the Ron and Fez show as well as Major League Baseball and NHL Hockey, but sometimes in this world one has to set their priorities straight, and because of this you have forced my hand and I will be canceling my XM subscription immediately.
You can hide behind your press release excuse all you want, but let's face it; the real reason you "suspended" Opie and Anthony was because you feared having to deal with professional shakedown artists like Al Sharpton and his ilk.
It sickens me.

As our Founding Fathers spin in their graves I hope all of you can sleep at night. For some reason I'm almost positive you'll have no problem.

You disgust me.

[Hottub]

G? how are you going to spend all day on the road without XM satellite radio? You'll be Jonesing before lunch!

[Gvac]

G? how are you going to spend all day on the road without XM satellite radio? You'll be Jonesing before lunch!

I won't lie to you, Tub...I'm gonna miss the hell out of XM. I've gotten addicted to the sports and music programming as well as Ron and Fez, obviously.

I'll find a way, though.

It's too important to me not to.

[Mangoat]

Why not get a Sirius, flush your now useless XM down the toilet, and call your mother.

She misses you.

[BoondockSaint]

Starvin'. Earl, we got any subs back there?

[Bossanova]

I won't lie to you, Tub...I'm gonna miss the hell out of XM. I've gotten addicted to the sports and music programming as well as Ron and Fez, obviously.

I'll find a way, though.

It's too important to me not to.

Gvac, I pondered the same problem. I love xm programming and I am on the road all day. Luckily my Ipod has Dylan, The Band and The Stones on it. I will be fine.

[superman319]

Starvin'. Earl, we got any subs back there?

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwh No No subs here sorry. I left that up to Dave

[Mangoat]

Starvin'. Earl, we got any subs back there?

NO! I mean. And again. NO! I mean. And again.

[Hottub]

Why not get a Sirius, flush your now useless XM down the toilet, and call your mother.

She misses you.

:clap:

[J.Clints]

This fucking pisses me off I just bought a new Portable xm unit got it in the mail yesterday and now this shit. FUCK.........

[Zuke]

Anyone who doesn't cancel in protest deserves the watered-down, milquetoast horseshit that the special interest groups want to feed you.

My 2 subs are gone.

[MT HAYSEED]

will carry us through this shit and take the edge off.....good luck to o&a screw the dumb shit. what do you have if you can't express what you got on the head? I'm not cancelling cuz this virus is the stink on shit.............................

[Zuke]

When O&A are gone, the action groups will come for R&F.

Fuckin-A. Once these assholes see that they have the power, no one will be allowed to say anything that doesn't conform to the PC party line.

[Mangoat]

Not mine, D_Nice over on Somethingawful.com did this:

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm1.jpg

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm2.jpg

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm3.jpg

[Marc with a c]

if this is just a suspension are you cancellors just going to renew your subscriptions?

[lleeder]

Not mine, D_Nice over on Somethingawful.com did this:

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm1.jpg

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm2.jpg

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm3.jpg

Did he fuck his mother and buy a Sirius unit?

[Mangoat]

I told him to hump her a lot, he'll need the lower back strength to pick up the Sirius unit

[Bulldogcakes]

It's too important to me not to.

Amen.

[Heather 8]

Why not get a Sirius, flush your now useless XM down the toilet, and call your mother.

She misses you.

Awwww, that's sweet. Do you have cheruby cheeks, cuz I so wanna pinch 'em.

[Heather 8]

if this is just a suspension are you cancellors just going to renew your subscriptions?

Personally, no. I've been looking for an excuse to cancel for a while now.

[ParkmanPotatoWater]

I paid, to be offended!!!!

[Midkiff]

if this is just a suspension are you cancellors just going to renew your subscriptions?

Not until they're back on the air.

[Bossanova]

I think I made a huge mistake by cancelling. I already miss the John Pinette bits on XM Comedy

http://www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/2407_con_John_Pinette_3.jpg

[J.Clints]

I think I made a huge mistake by cancelling. I already miss the John Pinette bits on XM Comedy

http://www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/2407_con_John_Pinette_3.jpg

trust me sweetie its worth it........hang in there

[Fallon]

I'd cancel if O&A and R&F were gone.

[SPeeDy_Freak]

Originally got it because O&A signed with XM.

Since then I listen more to the following programming

R&F
MLB
AT40

So if O&A go I will stay. I cannot... and I mean cannot go back to terrestrial radio,

[Death Metal Moe]

XM is really up shit creek.

O&A gone over this? Fucking weak assholes, lost a huge portion of your subs.

I love Ron and Fez and will probably wait to see what happens for a few days, but how is the atmosphere going to be now at XM after this for talk radio?

My feeling was that suspending O&A ruined satellite radio for me right there, and it's better they're not on it anymore. They're gonna come back to a pay service with a list of things they can't touch?

Fuck that.

[scottinnj]

I voted "no" on the poll because I didn't cancel. I called XM and let them know I have 5 subs and if O and A are actually fired, or if new restrictions of what O & A and R & F can say are applied to the two shows, I will cancel.

[J.Clints]

I have received word that O&A have been FIRED from XM!!!

I was told this by an extremely trusted source, and not an employee/relative of an XM employee.

Get on the phone, cancel your XM. DO NOT take the 30-day credit - CANCEL it! XM will feel that much more on their bottom line than a 30-day dip.

If XM feels the sting of thousands of people canceling their subs, then there is some sort of a chance!

-zag

[J.Clints]

http://www.zweg.com/dump/photo/DCAM0304.JPG

[Bossanova]

I have received word that O&A have been FIRED from XM!!!

I was told this by an extremely trusted source, and not an employee/relative of an XM employee.

Get on the phone, cancel your XM. DO NOT take the 30-day credit - CANCEL it! XM will feel that much more on their bottom line than a 30-day dip.

If XM feels the sting of thousands of people canceling their subs, then there is some sort of a chance!

-zag


Not for anything, but I keep seeing this post with different names attached to it.

[Wallower]

I hope your source is wrong Clints. If it isn't you're going to see a VERY angry Jammy Meat Tits this weekend.

[Mangoat]

http://www.zweg.com/dump/photo/DCAM0304.JPG

I hope that's not a PSP on the left there, cause if it is you fucked up son :P

[Bossanova]

http://www.zweg.com/dump/photo/DCAM0304.JPG

I really hope they are only suspended. This would be sad, but so funny.

Sorry precious, but that was intense

[Judge Smails]

Not mine, D_Nice over on Somethingawful.com did this:

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm1.jpg

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm2.jpg

http://imgred.com/http://www.forgottenartistry.com/jpg/xm3.jpg

http://www.zweg.com/dump/photo/DCAM0304.JPG

Some wives, like Mickey Conway, used to curse at them and spit on the floor.

On her own floor!

That never made any sense to me.

[Bossanova]

Some wives, like Mickey Conway, used to curse at them and spit on the floor.

On her own floor!

That never made any sense to me.

I take it that they will not resubscribe if it is just a suspension

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I'm still supporting the boys but if they try to censor R&F I am going to cancel.

[big_popa_bump]

Hugh.Panero@xmradio.com

Lee.Abrams@xmradio.comom

Eric.Logan@xmradio.com

Nathaniel Brown, Media Relations, +1-212-708-6170,
Nathaniel.Brown@xmradio.com, or Chance Patterson, Media Relations,
+1-202-380-4318, Chance.Patterson@xmradio.com, or Joseph Wilkinson, Investor
Relations, +1-202-380-4008, Joe.Wilkinson@xmradio.com, or Richard Sloane,
Investor Relations, +1-202-380-1439, Richard.Sloane@xmradio.com


202-380-4000 DC office number

I was able to leave a voice mail for abrams, logans was full

[sailor]

for now, no. if the boys are fired, very possible.

[marius]

im trying to cancel mine but have been on hold for over an hour. i wonder why...........? i love r&f but have to support the cause. i can get the buddies elsewhere online. sirius has better rock stations anyway.

[JokesaboutPants]

Was on hold for 54 minutes...."Lots of new activations tonight says the preprogramed on-hold girl"

[riverofpiss]

I will be cancelling my XM if this turns out to be permanent. In the meantime I will be complaining to XM by any means possible. This is bullshit and I hope XM listens to their customers on this one.

By the way, why were they suspended in the first place? Is it because of what the homeless guy said the other day or something different?

[badmonkey]

I'm not going to cancel because I can't see how me showing XM that Ron and Fez can't hold an audience without O&A on the channel helps Ron and Fez. If everybody takes the 1-3 month credit for O&A being suspended, then you are hurting XM's pocket book.

30,000 * $12.50 = $375,000 for the one month they're gone.
30,000 * $12.50 * 3 = $1,125,000 if everybody gets three months.

So take the free month from them, wait it out while writing letters and complaining to xm, and support Ron and Fez by continuing to listen.

Do we want Ron and Fez to get fired because they're on a channel with no listeners when we know that XM would happily put something else that people might actually listen to in the xm202 bandwidth?

I'm down for the struggle, but not at the expense of turning my back on Ron and Fez. They shouldn't have to suffer for O&A's fuckup. Cancelling just says fuck Ron and Fez, I'm here for O&A.

Badmonkey

[sailor]

I'm not going to cancel because I can't see how me showing XM that Ron and Fez can't hold an audience without O&A on the channel helps Ron and Fez. If everybody takes the 1-3 month credit for O&A being suspended, then you are hurting XM's pocket book.

30,000 * $12.50 = $375,000 for the one month they're gone.
30,000 * $12.50 * 3 = $1,125,000 if everybody gets three months.

So take the free month from them, wait it out while writing letters and complaining to xm, and support Ron and Fez by continuing to listen.

Do we want Ron and Fez to get fired because they're on a channel with no listeners when we know that XM would happily put something else that people might actually listen to in the xm202 bandwidth?

I'm down for the struggle, but not at the expense of turning my back on Ron and Fez. They shouldn't have to suffer for O&A's fuckup. Cancelling just says fuck Ron and Fez, I'm here for O&A.

Badmonkey

first, what's this 30k from? 2nd i could see the same people doing this if ron/fez got shit on like this. it's not fuck r/f, it's we hate the way your company does bidness and xm will definitely see it that way.

[sailor]

im trying to cancel mine but have been on hold for over an hour. i wonder why...........? i love r&f but have to support the cause. i can get the buddies elsewhere online. sirius has better rock stations anyway.

fuck sirius

[feralBoy]

I'm down for the struggle, but not at the expense of turning my back on Ron and Fez. They shouldn't have to suffer for O&A's fuckup. Cancelling just says fuck Ron and Fez, I'm here for O&A.

Badmonkey

I completely agree. I would never cancel XM as long as ron and fez are on. I may call up and see if I can get some free months though.

[marius]

I will be cancelling my XM if this turns out to be permanent. In the meantime I will be complaining to XM by any means possible. This is bullshit and I hope XM listens to their customers on this one.

By the way, why were they suspended in the first place? Is it because of what the homeless guy said the other day or something different?

from what i gather xm thought o&a defied by speaking ill about the company for not backing them. which btw i never picked up on and i heard the whole show that day. im not sure what the real reason is but i would pay o&a personally twice what i paid xm for a monthly broadcast of an independant broadcast. too bad big business runs radio.

[Midkiff]

I also suggest everybody email pictures of huge throbbing cocks to E-Lo.

eric.logan@xmradio.com

[SinA]

I'm down for the struggle, but not at the expense of turning my back on Ron and Fez. They shouldn't have to suffer for O&A's fuckup. Cancelling just says fuck Ron and Fez, I'm here for O&A.

Badmonkey

canceling says: fuck you for censoring your content.

not canceling says: please go ahead and censor ron and fez too if you want, i'll probably stay.

[ppanda]

If I had a subscription... I would totally go the route that BadMonkey just mentioned.

I also had another thought....I wonder how this would affect the "merger"- I know its not looking good however in the grand scheme of things- just hypothetically what if the "other" service winds up picking up our AFRO buddays and wind up having the dominant talk radio channel?....just saying.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm not going to cancel because I can't see how me showing XM that Ron and Fez can't hold an audience without O&A on the channel helps Ron and Fez. If everybody takes the 1-3 month credit for O&A being suspended, then you are hurting XM's pocket book.

30,000 * $12.50 = $375,000 for the one month they're gone.
30,000 * $12.50 * 3 = $1,125,000 if everybody gets three months.

So take the free month from them, wait it out while writing letters and complaining to xm, and support Ron and Fez by continuing to listen.

Do we want Ron and Fez to get fired because they're on a channel with no listeners when we know that XM would happily put something else that people might actually listen to in the xm202 bandwidth?

I'm down for the struggle, but not at the expense of turning my back on Ron and Fez. They shouldn't have to suffer for O&A's fuckup. Cancelling just says fuck Ron and Fez, I'm here for O&A.

Badmonkey

Wow, I actually agree with Badmonkey!

[marius]

If I had a subscription... I would totally go the route that BadMonkey just mentioned.

I also had another thought....I wonder how this would affect the "merger"- I know its not looking good however in the grand scheme of things- just hypothetically what if the "other" service winds up picking up our AFRO buddays and wind up having the dominant talk radio channel?....just saying.

wouldnt xm still have contracts with AFRO keeping them from leaving?

[ppanda]

I also suggest everybody email pictures of huge throbbing cocks to E-Lo.

eric.logan@xmradio.com

ha ha ha- that is such a Pest move.

[badmonkey]

first, what's this 30k from? 2nd i could see the same people doing this if ron/fez got shit on like this. it's not fuck r/f, it's we hate the way your company does bidness and xm will definitely see it that way.

30k is the magic O&A subscriber number I keep seeing thrown around. I think that was in the premium channel days, but I have no idea. It may not be 30,000 but if all the O&A/Ron and Fez fans got a free month or more of service, it hits xm's pocketbook. And yes, if Ron and Fez get fired from XM, I will cancel and switch to Sirius.

Badmonkey

[Mangoat]

I also suggest everybody email pictures of huge throbbing cocks to E-Lo.

eric.logan@xmradio.com

fuck that, that's childish horseshit and accomplishes nothing other than filling up his mailbox so legit complaints get bounced back.


canceling says: fuck you for censoring your content.

not canceling says: please go ahead and censor ron and fez too if you want, i'll probably stay.

Ding ding,. We have a winner

[ppanda]

wouldnt xm still have contracts with AFRO keeping them from leaving?

good point- but what if both wind up having YMB shows due to firings- I think fired would result in cancelling of contract- right? essentaily making them free agent?
I am trying to avoid bringing bad luck by being cryptic.
And again this is just a hypathetical scenario

[sailor]

30k is the magic O&A subscriber number I keep seeing thrown around. I think that was in the premium channel days, but I have no idea. It may not be 30,000 but if all the O&A/Ron and Fez fans got a free month or more of service, it hits xm's pocketbook. And yes, if Ron and Fez get fired from XM, I will cancel and switch to Sirius.

Badmonkey

i'd say their listeners (either show) are WAY more than that. i think that's the made-up number howard used to throw about back in the day to disparage them. that's why i was asking. :)

[Midkiff]

OK then, my next email will just say "fuck you for censoring your content."

[JPMNICK]

I now keep seeing 35,000. And BadMokey, i have been using 9.99 a month instead of the 12.50 because I think a lot of the cancellations are multiple subs, so those people only pay 6 bucks or so per month. so i figure the average is prolly around 10 bucks a month or so. if O&A get fired, 35,000 people who quit for the year means XM looses around 4.2 million dollars in sub money, and then whatever ad revenue they would lose from people who are not listening to 202 anymore.

[DolaMight]

i'd say their listeners (either show) are WAY more than that. i think that's the made-up number howard used to throw about back in the day to disparage them. that's why i was asking. :)

I don't know if anyone else got this from their XM cancellation attendant, but when I went to cancel and complain about 202 uncensored being censored, he agreed and directed me to www.peopleagainstcensorship.com for more info.

[JPMNICK]

i'd say their listeners (either show) are WAY more than that. i think that's the made-up number howard used to throw about back in the day to disparage them. that's why i was asking. :)

yea but think of it this way, 30k have dropped in thel ast 7 hours. imagine tommorow and the rest of the week as everyone realized what is going on. all the people who do not check the boards religiously? this could get messy for XM.

I can not wait to see what Deb says tonight on CNN

[Don Stugots]

I now keep seeing 35,000. And BadMokey, i have been using 9.99 a month instead of the 12.50 because I think a lot of the cancellations are multiple subs, so those people only pay 6 bucks or so per month. so i figure the average is prolly around 10 bucks a month or so. if O&A get fired, 35,000 people who quit for the year means XM looses around 4.2 million dollars in sub money, and then whatever ad revenue they would lose from people who are not listening to 202 anymore.

look at the big brain on Nick. "Go Nicky, its Birthday"

[Fez4PrezN2008]

# 1, I want to know where Ron and Fez weigh in on this, and
# 2, I want to know which sponsors are behind this so I can boycott their products and services.










(If it turns out to be that "tell them about the discount, Harry" bitch, I am goin to go postal)

[Zuke]

Wow, I actually agree with Badmonkey!

How about this? You not cancelling helps keep the stock price higher so that this set of executive pricks can merge with Mel and the other set of exec pricks, and they all make out like bandits. Meanwhile, some shithead action group writes a letter to the company and makes Ron stop saying "fuck" because it offends them. Fuck that. Grow someballs and cancel the subscription now, whle you actually have a chance to speak with a larger voice.

[Zuke]

[B][SIZE=5]# 1, I want to know where Ron and Fez weigh in on this

You actually expect R&F to come on here and tell you to cancel? Do something without getting permission for once in your life.

[Midkiff]

http://www.firekite.com/store/misc/pics/forum13/retard2.jpg

[sailor]

yea but think of it this way, 30k have dropped in thel ast 7 hours. imagine tommorow and the rest of the week as everyone realized what is going on. all the people who do not check the boards religiously? this could get messy for XM.

I can not wait to see what Deb says tonight on CNN

i read the original post as saying they only have 30k listeners. i think we're talking apples and dildos here.

[JPMNICK]

i read the original post as saying they only have 30k listeners. i think we're talking apples and dildos here.

you can PM me anytime to talk about dildo's

[Fez4PrezN2008]

You actually expect R&F to come on here and tell you to cancel? Do something without getting permission for once in your life.
OK, how's this FUCK YOU ASSHOLE !!!

I respect R&F enought to get their opinion.

[Gvac]

First they came for Imus, but I wasn't a fan so I didn't care.

Then they came for JV & Elvis but I wasn't a fan so I didn't care.

They they came for O & A but I wasn't a fan so I didn't care.


Some of you just aren't paying attention.

[douchebagsean]

not only am i cancelling my sub, i am writing a letter letting the congressional subcommitte (sp?) dealing with the xm/sirius merger talks letting them know how dreadfull their customer service is now, in addition to other issues with this company that i believe should be looked at when considering this merger. i think xm should pay for these shenanegans and my shitty little letter might do the trick...by the way as of now ive been on hold for 95 mins...any longer and i might *edt--for fear i might lose myjob in this oversensitive pussy world (*edit* this in no way inplies i do not like pussy nor do i wish pussy ill...big fan since day one) ill remove this comment* goodnight *edit-what it does imply is that i cant fucking spell when im angry

[douchebagsean]

First they came for Imus, but I wasn't a fan so I didn't care.

Then they came for JV & Elvis but I wasn't a fan so I didn't care.

They they came for O & A but I wasn't a fan so I didn't care.


Some of you just aren't paying attention.

only gvac can make me smile at a time like this...sad day for freedom folks...fyi--anyone who doth not protest now should keep their mouths shut when ron and fez are either made unfunny by new restrictions or fired for offending some hag...trust me theres a storm on the horizon...

[Finngers]

CANCELED

I must say the guy at XM was very nice about the whole thing. He basically offered XM to me for a huge discount for the next 6 months. I said "No".

Not even tempted. I stressed that this has EVERYthing to do with the O&A suspension (firing..?) and that I'll come back to XM when the boys come back to XM. No conditions.

I will miss R&F as well, but for now I'll have to catch both when I can on Free FM. My commute just got a whole lot lonelier today.

[KC2OSO]

Not Unless Ron & Fez Is Cancelled, I like O&A but Love Ron & Fez

:king:
Well put & same here. If Ron & Fez go, then it's off. We've been here before. It's Pussification!

[Hottub]

I know emotions are up, but please try to keep the conversation civil.

I appreciate the cooperation.

Tub.

[Midkiff]

Let's all email Al Sharpton and tell him how we feel about his actions. Here are some email addresses for his "activist" organization:

info@nationalactionnetwork.net

scheduling@nationalactionnetwork.net

crisis@nationalactionnetwork.net

rachel@nationalactionnetwork.net

bigferg77@aol.com

Here's the website. Bring it down!!!

http://www.nationalactionnetwork.net/

[riverofpiss]

I agree with SinA that the company has to feel some pressure from their customers. I love Ron and Fez and will continue to support them anyway possible. I am on hold right now and will be asking for the one month credit that they are giving out.

[marius]

good point- but what if both wind up having YMB shows due to firings- I think fired would result in cancelling of contract- right? essentaily making them free agent?
I am trying to avoid bringing bad luck by being cryptic.
And again this is just a hypathetical scenario

they didnt say it so i have hope. i just hope they dont hold back too much because of this situation. i think this whole situation stemmed from supposed disrespect. and hopefully that is all it is and not censorship.

[Midkiff]

Hey, E-Lo's XM email should be reserved for legit complaints, but we can always fill his AIM mailbox with cocks:

radiorodeoboy@aim.com

[douchebagsean]

according to both the nyradio messageboard and the front page on whackbag o&A are gone from xm for good

[Don Stugots]

according to both the nyradio messageboard and the front page on whackbag o&A are gone from xm for good

i will wait to see it somewhere else before i worry.

[TheMojoPin]

i will wait to see it somewhere else before i worry.

Fired or not, this is beyond retarded. If I ever had XM, I would have definitely cancelled it by now.

[Don Stugots]

Fired or not, this is beyond retarded. If I ever had XM, I would have definitely cancelled it by now.

at the same time Mojo, i feel like that bails out on Ron & Fez at the same time. know what i mean?

[weekapaugjz]

Fired or not, this is beyond retarded. If I ever had XM, I would have definitely cancelled it by now.

i agree, this is totally retarded (or should i say mental). im still up in the air about cancelling. i need to see what happens over the next few days to make a decision. i just bought an inno and don't want it to become worthless over a knee jerk reaction of my own without having all the information.

[weekapaugjz]

at the same time Mojo, i feel like that bails out on Ron & Fez at the same time. know what i mean?

exactly. it is the major reason i am still up in the air from my above post

[ppanda]

I agree this is absolutely crazy...

I was just reading the Fallwell Dead thread and it reminded me- hasnt Larry Flynt already defended this won in the past? WTF- have we forgotten not so distant historical debates?

[Don Stugots]

exactly. it is the major reason i am still up in the air from my above post


Ron & Fez are the reason i got XM to begin with. if they go, then i would. if O&A are gone and 202 becomes BAC 202 built around them with the hideout and maybe Perrynoid, then why wouldnt i support them?

[ThePointer]

Not cancelling. I signed on to XM for Ron & Fez. I enjoy O&A, but I don't get the opportunity to listen all that often. If something happens to R&F, I'm gone.

Mikey
I am like you. I signed on for Ron and Fez. OnA are an added bonus. I hope that they are just suspended for insubordination and return, but as long as ron and fez are on I will keep XM

[TheMojoPin]

at the same time Mojo, i feel like that bails out on Ron & Fez at the same time. know what i mean?

True. What a mess.

[Don Stugots]

True. What a mess.

see, that is what i feel too. what a mess. if XM is true to their word as to why O&A were told to sit out for 30 days then i cannot fault them. you do have to listen to your boss or there is a price to pay. if they fire them because of it, i still cannot fault XM. If XM is lying to save face then i will have to address my feelings on it at that time with the X-Factor of Ron & Fez.

[badmonkey]

Customer service being slammed with complaint calls and either cancellation threats or refund requests goes a LONG way. They get your message and they lose money while you continue to support Ron and Fez on xm202. This is a win for you without sacrificing Ron and Fez. I guarantee your voices have been heard at the highest levels of XM. The more refunds and free time they have to give away, the less money they are making. Stock prices will go down when this hits the media.

Badmonkey

[JPMNICK]

Customer service being slammed with complaint calls and either cancellation threats or refund requests goes a LONG way. They get your message and they lose money while you continue to support Ron and Fez on xm202. This is a win for you without sacrificing Ron and Fez. I guarantee your voices have been heard at the highest levels of XM. The more refunds and free time they have to give away, the less money they are making. Stock prices will go down when this hits the media.

Badmonkey

I think Badmonkey just hit the nail on the head. that was a great post. cancellations = bottom line a(e?)ffected = stock price going down.

from a high of 40ish, it would not be crazy to think O&A being kicked off could drop the stock price into the 6 dollar range. not only would share holders be furious, but the blame is squarely on the shoulders of the board.

the other problem with a low stock price is that they are then ripe for a buyout. probably not by sirius, but maybe a private equity firm, or a cable company, or even a satellite TV company. at 6 dollars a share it is MUCH easier for a hostile take over.

there are 306,082,407 outstanding shares. at 7 dollars a share, that is a 2 billion dollar take over. not really that crazy when you think about all the ground work that has been laid. the brought it close to 100 million last year in revenue.

[TheGameHHH]

who would have thought between CBS and XM the first company to fire O&A would be XM. I know it doesn't seem like it now, but trust me when I say R&F will be gone from XM soon. I'm canceling my XM tomorrow morning, i'm so upset with how special interest groups run entertainment mediums. its useless to rant here, but i just can't believe what is happening in our country.

[riverofpiss]

If O&A are fired I will be cancelling both of my subs and I will urge every other person I know with XM to do the same. If XM and Sirius both start censoring themselves then it is a product I am not interested in.

[SinA]

now i feel like such a douche because i didn't cancel. i took the big howie mendel deal.

i wrote an email to my contact at XM HQ, and basically said that the only acceptable solution is the return of uncensored programmng.

right now my plan is to hold it until friday at 3pm. i don't necessarily need to hear what ron says to decide, i just want to hear if ron will talk about it. obviously this is not something he would just not talk about, it's too huge and too close to home for him. if i think he's holding back (meaning he feels the need to censor himself, I'm out). i subscribe to support unrestricted freedom of expression and commercial free music, and they're not looking good on either front right now.

[Friday]

No Way.
I spent 300 on my Inno to ensure I had the best connection to Ron and Fez possible.
They are the reason I am on XM radio.

I like Opie and Anthony alot now... and i will go to great lengths to do whatever I can to protect Free Speech and support them... because I have seen how things that happen to OnA can have a direct effect on RnF.

It is horrible what is happening now. But I love Ron And Fez and will not discontinue XM.

Like Mikey... if anything happened and they were taken off XM I would discontinue in a heart beat.

[vashawn]

The only way to make stand is through canceling. If you don't Ron and Fez could be the next radio show targeted for an inappropriate comment or bit, and in the meantime the show will be watered down. How would Ron Bennington's rape-prevention prevention class go over in this post Imus world? I think Ron and Fez would want us to make a stand in this fashion.

[Dirtybird12]

they have not been fired.


I just interviewed XM...on the circus.
Check it out in the Cosmic Circus section

[vashawn]

they have not been fired.


I just interviewed XM...on the circus.
Check it out in the Cosmic Circus section

Is XM a person or did you interview he entire organization?

[drusilla]

I understand the sentiments of the R&F fans cancelling XM, and I agree that XM's decision directly fucks over R&F in a number of ways. For instance:

- R&F's content is directly affected by XM's willingness to cowtow
- If O&A are indeed fired, XM may decide not to support 202 anymore and cut R&F loose. If not that, they might not feel that keeping the NY studio open is financially viable, so R&F could be forced to broadcast from DC if they want to stay employed by XM.

I also understand the awful precedent that XM has made in not protecting its so-called "uncensored content".

That all said, at this point in time, I'm not willing to directly fuck over Ron & Fez, as a person who subscribed to hear Ron & Fez, by cancelling my subscription. Make no mistake that if enough 202 listeners abandon the channel, R&F will be fired. Unless I get some indication that R&F are okay with this, I will not hurt them by cancelling. I don't fault or question anyone who decides to cancel, but at this point in time, I will not follow suit.

exactly. i won't do anything to hurt ron & fez. but if xm does not think they can carry the channel by themselves & gets rid of them too (if o&a are fired), then i'm out of there.

[drusilla]

ron & fezzie do have a contract though.... so maybe we really don't have to worry about them. in that case GIMME MY 13 BUCKS BACK!!!!!!!

[marius]

r&f can be obtained elsewhere on a daily basis besides xm. dont give them (xm) the money if they wont support what we want.

[drusilla]

not so much for those who do not work a 9-5 job.

[Don Stugots]

r&f can be obtained elsewhere on a daily basis besides xm. dont give them (xm) the money if they wont support what we want.


because CBS is stable and stands behind their talent?

[led37zep]

I have 3 XM subs (2 units and 1 built into my car). The 2 units i pay for the 3rd is free for another year. I'm cancelling the 2 to send a message to XM. I have to admit i'm pretty happy I have the free one to continue listening to the buddays.



I keep thinking this is some sort of sick joke that everyone is in on.

[PapaBear]

r&f can be obtained elsewhere on a daily basis besides xm. dont give them (xm) the money if they wont support what we want.

That wouldn't help them. They need paying listeners to stay employed. If you feel the right thing to do is cancel, then fine. But don't steal from Ron & Fez and pretend you're doing them a favor.

Excellent point, Papa!! I would like all of you bit torrent people to re-read this comment.

Like I said before...

[marius]

Like I said before...

i seriously doubt their contract/salary is based on subs to a service that ranges from shock jockery to a 50's music channel. give me proof my 12 bucks help our buddies. when you do that i will keep my sub.

[Don Stugots]

but if the subs drop then XM doesnt need them.

[PapaBear]

i seriously doubt their contract/salary is based on subs to a service that ranges from shock jockery to a 50's music channel. give me proof my 12 bucks help our buddies. when you do that i will keep my sub.
I was refering to canceling your sub, then stealing the shows. That doesn't help R&F.

[theclumsyox]

I signed on for O&A, but Ron and Fez weren't on XM yet. I love the O&A show, but I love the Ron and Fez show equally if not more. As long as Ron and Fez are still on, I'll keep XM. I live in LA, so I can't just listen to R&F on free fm, and my schedule doesn't let me stream the show.

Plus, I enjoy a lot of the xm programming (xmu, soul street, raw, bbc news and a lot more) and the music is way better on xm than on terrestrial radio as well as limited commercials. I will miss O&A, and it totally sucks what xm is doing, but I can't go back to regular radio.

[danosu85]

Everyone needs to call and cancel. If you don't want to cancel, at least call and say that you want to cancel because of O&A and get a free month of XM. They have been instructed to give anyone that calls a free month of XM.

[moochcassidy]

cancelling your subsription is a symbolic thing...there are OTHER ways of listening to the XM show for free now..i just got a sub to support ron & fez a few months ago.

ddroxxx sent out a myspace bulletin advising peeps to cancel now (im guessing shes got the nod from 'someone')

but if we cancel and make the 57th street studio financially unworkable, the buddays will have to move again which to me is the ABSOLUTE WORST case senario.

alot of peeps are phoning up and putting their accounts into stasis for the duration of the suspension..thats prob the best idea.

[AKA]

Curious on how XM will see the cancellations - something they banked on - something they weren't counting on - will the number justify the actions - will they be more or less motivated to cut and run???

If O&A don't return, then that could mean XM is pretty confident that the merger with Sirius is going to go through - how will it look if they fire Opie and Anthony and then the merger doesn't happen?

VERY strange having R&F on 24/7

[EliSnow]

I agree this is absolutely crazy...

I was just reading the Fallwell Dead thread and it reminded me- hasnt Larry Flynt already defended this won in the past?


Not the same thing. Falwell sued Hustler for emotional distress for the Hustler cartoon. The Supreme Court held that Falwell, as a public figure, couldn't collect damages from distress suffered from obvious parodies.

There's no lawsuit against the boys here.

[moochcassidy]

wackbag is going with O&A 'fired'

[Mangoat]

Here's a letter MY WIFE wrote to Elo, hope he reads it:

E-Lo~

Sorry to do this to you all but my husband and I have cancelled our subscriptions to XM. The usual rhetoric applies about special interest groups and censorship, so I'm not going to waste your time with that, but I want to share with you my feelings.

My husband and I have been huge Ron & Fez fans since they first started here in Tampa eons ago. When we heard that they were on XM, we bought a radio that night. It took us about two weeks to get past the frat-boyishness of O&A, but once that hurdle was cleared, oh me oh my. Those two are amazing. Yes, they do and say some horrid things but at the same time, the side that no one is supposed to see-- is very kind and generous.

When Bubba the Love Sponge had a piggy castrated on his show locally, I was appalled. Disgusted. But you know what I did? I turned the channel. It wasn't my deal, and I sure didn't want to infringe on his right to free speech. I didn't stop buying from the advertisers because even though I didn't agree with what he did, I did and still do agree with his right to talk about it. And when he ran for sheriff, I supported him. (Couldn't vote for him because of the district but I did support him.)

Unfortunately coming from an area where people are fired for being themselves (Steve/Susan Stanley,the Largo City manager) and where even the medical term "vagina" is too offensive ("Hoo-Haa Monologues" at a local playhouse) and we can't even have a display in the public library about gay people (thanks Rhonda Storms), XM radio was a censorship free haven. It was a place where I could be myself in my head. I don't necessarily agree with the racist things that O&A have said (and yes they do say some racist and sexist things and I'm a friggin female breeder for pete's sake) but you know what? I agree with their right to say it.

Unfortunately though, the damage is done and even if you brought O&A back today, May 16th, 2007, many of your subscribers will not come back. I know that we will not be back. And it's a shame, we thought for sure that this would be a time that XM would stand up for the constitution and back Opie and Anthony. Satellite radio is a new media and everything that happens now is the baseline for the future of pay broadcasting. Thanks for ruining it.

[Dirtybird12]

I hear what you are all saying... but doesnt this fuck Ron and Fez up if we cancel?
remember how excited we all were when Ron and Fez went to XM?
Now we are expected or asked to drop the service?

How does this help R&F again?

Has ANYONE from the show ( R&F ) asked anyone to drop the service?
Doesnt seem like their style to do so.
Doesnt mean they DONT want us to drop XM... just saying I can't imagine them asking people to cancel...

If it helps Ron and Fez and if the R&F show wants peoople to drop the service... consider it done. But until then I'll keep XM.

So does anyone know where R&F stand on this?

[Death Metal Moe]

Yea, we were all very excited when Ron and Fez moved to XM and I haven't canceled anything just yet.

But what message does XM send to it's talent with this move? My initial thought when I heard about the suspention is "That single move just ruined satellite radio." But now they fucking fire O&A? The satellite was supposed to be a place I could hear ANYTHING. It's a pay service that even allows you to block the XL channels. And speech isn't even fully protected and free on there.

Ron and Fez are going to have to walk on egg shells at XM now. And how long will it be before some cunt monitoring the show takes a Black Earl joke the wrong way and finds a news camera?

XM is ruined in my eyes. I am extremely reluctant to cancel my sub just yet, but they just ruined their whole talk format and that's the only thing XM was good for. I don't need their music, I have plenty and discover it on my own.

I'll probably cancel very soon, enjoy and support the FM and catch the XM show in other places so I fuck XM.

[Fezticle98]

Ok, I have not canceled my 2 subs just yet. I am taking a wait and see attitude for now. If the boys are fired, no question, XM is dead to me. If the suspension is upheld, I will probably just try to weasel the free month or whatever.

Yes
No
How bout an option for "maybe so"?

[Uncle Inky]

I don't think I can do it. I listen to a bunch of other stations as well. Giving up XM would be like a junkie giving up his crack pipe.

Yeah I hear ya. I would love to join the fight, but I don't have it in me. Even beyond the R&F thing I simply could not live without Deep Tracks.
Me and Earl Bailey are in this till the end

[dereckfishboy]

I think XM is aware that O&A and R&F share a portion of their audience....... a canceled sub in the name of O&A could be seen by an XM suit as a lost 202 listener, thereby devaluing R&F's worth to the company.... I say we hold the fort..........

[Dirtybird12]

I think XM is aware that O&A and R&F share a portion of their audience....... a canceled sub in the name of O&A could be seen by an XM suit as a lost 202 listener, thereby devaluing R&F's worth to the company.... I say we hold the fort..........


BINGO. Thats what I was trying to say. Nice wording. -
Maybe Ron will code it up for us today as to what he would like RF listeners to do.
Perhaps code it up in the oopening song?



Has it been confirmed that O&A have been fired?
As of last night 10pm XM was denying it.

[TjM]

BINGO. Thats what I was trying to say. Nice wording. -
Maybe Ron will code it up for us today as to what he would like RF listeners to do.
Perhaps code it up in the oopening song?



Has it been confirmed that O&A have been fired?
As of last night 10pm XM was denying it.

Haven't seen it anywhere but the bag and NFP

[BoondockSaint]

OK, I canceled my prescription but I don't see how me having high blood pressure will help anybody.

[dereckfishboy]

Haven't seen it anywhere but the bag and NFP

Perhaps it's the optimist in me, but everything I've seen points more to someone trying to sound like an insider wound up starting an internet rumor..........

[dereckfishboy]

OK, I canceled my prescription but I don't see how me having high blood pressure will help anybody.

Was it for downs? Cuz I could have used that if you weren't gonna........

[Earlshog]

I'm sorry but those of you keeping your subscriptions are failing to see the forest for the trees (if I may use a horrific metaphor). This is not an O & A issue just like it wasn't just an Imus or JV and Elvis issue, think big picture. The argument that you aren't going to cancel cause you don't want to fuck Ron and Fez is tragically flawed. Sitting there and doing nothing, now that is fucking Ron and Fez. The XM show is not going to be the same. I am sure it will still be great, they always adjust, but fuck that they shouldn't have to adjust. I want to hear dog fucking stories, and how many nine years olds you can beat up, etc, etc, save the clean stuff for Free FM. And please spare me the O & A broke a contact they made to XM and didn't take this sirus-ly, its crazy talk, do they think we were born yesterday (although it looks like a couple people on the boards and the media bought it, which is not surprising) Anyone who doesn't think this isn't 100% about the effects this will have on the Merger ($$$$$ one again) I have a Bridge in Brooklyn for sale (okay that's two cliches sorry). Money is the only thing corporations understand, be dialing people. I was offered 3 free months to keep my four subscriptions. I told them to stick it up there ass. I will listen to Ron and Fez show underground, and please save your lecture about how that is stealing and how it hurts Ron and Fez, your wrong. Those of you who don't cancel, when it happens to your show won't have to look any further then the mirror.

[moochcassidy]

BINGO. Thats what I was trying to say. Nice wording. -
Maybe Ron will code it up for us today as to what he would like RF listeners to do.
Perhaps code it up in the oopening song?



Has it been confirmed that O&A have been fired?
As of last night 10pm XM was denying it.


yeah im gonna hang fire on the cancellation until mr b makes his move.

not confirmed but wackbag say they have insider stuff... at 5am XM were still denying.

[EastSideDaveFan]

I concur.



agreed

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm sorry but those of you keeping your subscriptions are failing to see the forest for the trees (if I may use a horrific metaphor). This is not an O & A issue just like it wasn't just an Imus or JV and Elvis issue, think big picture. The argument that you aren't going to cancel cause you don't want to fuck Ron and Fez is tragically flawed. Sitting there and doing nothing, now that is fucking Ron and Fez. The XM show is not going to be the same. I am sure it will still be great, they always adjust, but fuck that they shouldn't have to adjust. I want to hear dog fucking stories, and how many nine years olds you can beat up, etc, etc, save the clean stuff for Free FM. And please spare me the O & A broke a contact they made to XM and didn't take this sirus-ly, its crazy talk, do they think we were born yesterday (although it looks like a couple people on the boards and the media bought it, which is not surprising) Anyone who doesn't think this isn't 100% about the effects this will have on the Merger ($$$$$ one again) I have a Bridge in Brooklyn for sale (okay that's two cliches sorry). Money is the only thing corporations understand, be dialing people. I was offered 3 free months to keep my four subscriptions. I told them to stick it up there ass. I will listen to Ron and Fez show underground, and please save your lecture about how that is stealing and how it hurts Ron and Fez, your wrong. Those of you who don't cancel, when it happens to your show won't have to look any further then the mirror.

Yea, this is how I feel for the most part too.

I love Ron and Fez, but they now exist in a neutered environment, and I really want to send a clear "3 sub cancellation" message to XM to teach them they made a tragic error.

I'm just about ready to cancel. I think a lot of people are like me too. They're going to steadily cancel over the next few days, especially when the official firing story hits the news.

[BeerBandit]

I could be naive here, but I see this 30 day suspension, by a satellite radio company, as a bit of a different animal. Yes, just about every Terra-station suspension has resulted in a firing. But, am I wrong or have they always been two week suspensions? The stories have always stayed fresh in peoples' minds, so a firing happens within about a week. Perhaps XM went with 30 days to give a more time for people to forget about it.

Also, XM's XL channels are "uncensored." We now know how bullshit that description is, but I gotta believe it still sets it apart from broadcast radio. Yes they do have sponsors to cater to, but significantly less than FreeFM, and the O&A audience has got to be a rather large portion of their sub revenues.

Finally, they are still broadcast on FreeFM, for the moment anyway. I can't see XM firing O&A over pressure from "groups" while they are still being heard on a much larger, more visible medium.

Of course the whole impending merger situation does throw a monkeyhouse wrench into my entire logic stream, so what the fuck do I know. But I'm still docking XM 30 days for my missed content, with the hopes that it will be restored after a month.

[ralphbxny]

I am just holding tight. I am taking what XM gives me cause they should hurt a little and if alot of people do it like bad monkey said it will hurt. I cant see hurting R&F for helping O&A.

[moochcassidy]

I'm sorry but those of you keeping your subscriptions are failing to see the forest for the trees (if I may use a horrific metaphor). This is not an O & A issue just like it wasn't just an Imus or JV and Elvis issue, think big picture. The argument that you aren't going to cancel cause you don't want to fuck Ron and Fez is tragically flawed. Sitting there and doing nothing, now that is fucking Ron and Fez. The XM show is not going to be the same. I am sure it will still be great, they always adjust, but fuck that they shouldn't have to adjust. I want to hear dog fucking stories, and how many nine years olds you can beat up, etc, etc, save the clean stuff for Free FM. And please spare me the O & A broke a contact they made to XM and didn't take this sirus-ly, its crazy talk, do they think we were born yesterday (although it looks like a couple people on the boards and the media bought it, which is not surprising) Anyone who doesn't think this isn't 100% about the effects this will have on the Merger ($$$$$ one again) I have a Bridge in Brooklyn for sale (okay that's two cliches sorry). Money is the only thing corporations understand, be dialing people. I was offered 3 free months to keep my four subscriptions. I told them to stick it up there ass. I will listen to Ron and Fez show underground, and please save your lecture about how that is stealing and how it hurts Ron and Fez, your wrong. Those of you who don't cancel, when it happens to your show won't have to look any further then the mirror.

last time i checked this was 'ronfez'.net

XM arent necessarily the enemy here (yet)..neither are fans coming from a different perspective.

cancelling before they're officially fired might not be the best thing for r&f, o&a and 202 in the LONG RUN.

im gonna trust ron's call on this over any pest.

[dereckfishboy]

As much as I'd love to show the corps how little the idea of censored radio appeals to me, I have faith in R&F's ability to thrive despite whatever new rules are thrown at them. You guys in the New York/New Jersey area always have the Free FM show to fall back on. I'll probably never have that luxury, and the life I live doesn't afford an online feed whenever I desire. I want job security for the boys, and a canceled XM sub puts that at risk. No matter HOW much money we throw at these corporations, they will NEVER try to satisfy us as much as the squares. They, like every other form of media, pay homage at the alter of the Status Quo. No matter what they risk to lose, at the end of the day they must to pay the piper....it's the cost of doing business....There are other ways to fight the powers that be, at a better time and place..........

[moochcassidy]

that anthony cumia's a good looking chap (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070516/ENT07/705160381/1035)

[AKA]

im gonna trust ron's call on this over any pest.

http://images.es-designs.com/sjGiantsFans/IMGP0045002.jpg

[drjoek]

I'm on XM for R&F O%A are a side benefit
I'm not dropping just for the hell of it I'm listening and will enjoy it while it lasts. Ronnie B put it well the other day when he said that this medium is like the wild west and we are ahead of the curve here Enjoy it while it lasts. It will change sooner rather than later

[BoondockSaint]

Let's not forget, if any group ever tried to get R&F suspended or fired, they would have to deal with Rap.

[Midkiff]

Let's not forget, if any group ever tried to get R&F suspended or fired, they would have to deal with Rap.

Damn right.

Not that he needs my help, but if that happens I'll take off work and buy a damn plane ticket to join that posse.

[dereckfishboy]

that anthony cumia's a good looking chap (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070516/ENT07/705160381/1035)

Wow... if that picture wasn't black and white, I could swear I was looking at a blond Italian...

[Earlshog]

I am just holding tight. I am taking what XM gives me cause they should hurt a little and if alot of people do it like bad monkey said it will hurt. I cant see hurting R&F for helping O&A.


How does canceling your service for a month to XM to show you won't stand for them meddling with the content of this format hurt Ron and Fez? Money is the only language they speak!!!!

[Earlshog]

last time i checked this was 'ronfez'.net

what does that even mean? I think you missed my point entirely, this is very much an issue that effects Ron and Fez so I think "fonfez.net a good place to discuss it

XM arent necessarily the enemy here (yet)..neither are fans coming from a different perspective.

cancelling before they're officially fired might not be the best thing for r&f, o&a and 202 in the LONG RUN.

im gonna trust ron's call on this over any pest.


Isn't a huge part of what Ron "preaches" to think for yourself

[dereckfishboy]

Money is the only language they speak!!!!

That's a dangerous statement to make......... there's a lot of politics involved..... our money (despite the size of the rabid fanbase) is paltry compared to the damage that could be done to them by not doing what it takes to appease the masses..... what we can give them is in the vast shadow of what can be taken from them......... a political power base is what is needed, not the threat of canceled subs.....

[angrymissy]

I have to ask - if this was happening to Ron and Fez, would the die-hard O&A fans cancel their subs?

[dereckfishboy]

I have to ask - if this was happening to Ron and Fez, would the die-hard O&A fans cancel their subs?

As much as I love the guys, which of the two shows pulls more cash.......

[angrymissy]

As much as I love the guys, which of the two shows pulls more cash.......

Well, that's not really my point... I'm saying this - many O&A fans are coming here and saying that the only stand you can take to protect free speech is to cancel your sub, even if you listen for Ron and Fez.

If the situation was reversed, and Ron and Fez were suspended, and possibly fired, would the die-hard O&A fans cancel their subs to take a stand for free speech?

[reillyluck]

I have to ask - if this was happening to Ron and Fez, would the die-hard O&A fans cancel their subs?

doubt it.

[Earlshog]

That's a dangerous statement to make......... there's a lot of politics involved..... our money (despite the size of the rabid fanbase) is paltry compared to the damage that could be done to them by not doing what it takes to appease the masses..... what we can give them is in the vast shadow of what can be taken from them......... a political power base is what is needed, not the threat of canceled subs.....



I'm not following you? Are the politics you are talking about those surrounding the approval of the merger?

[dereckfishboy]

Well, that's not really my point... I'm saying this - many O&A fans are coming here and saying that the only stand you can take to protect free speech is to cancel your sub, even if you listen for Ron and Fez.

If the situation was reversed, and Ron and Fez were suspended, and possibly fired, would the die-hard O&A fans cancel their subs to take a stand for free speech?

Point taken, but Ron and Fez don't mean the same in either subs brought in or their status in pop culture, so my question would be "would it matter". R&F don't make as much noise, and neither do their fans, and I think we're all happy with that. So who cares if O&A fans would clamor or not?

[dereckfishboy]

I'm not following you? Are the politics you are talking about those surrounding the approval of the merger?

Perhaps, or maybe even shit we just don't know about. Think of all the back-scratching bullshit you put up with at work, and then think of how much of it goes on that you don't even know of. I'm sure it's no different at XM. All I'm saying is that as big a piece to the puzzle as money is, it's not the only piece. Using your wallet as a sword might not help as much as you think, that's all I'm saying.

[Earlshog]

I have to ask - if this was happening to Ron and Fez, would the die-hard O&A fans cancel their subs?


yes I do think they would, but that is irrelevant, who cares? so if they wouldn't do the right thing it means you shouldn't? O & A and R & F are together on this... I thought everyone was supposed to stick together and fight for the same thing .

[Brooklyn Stroonze]

I called to cancel my subscription but decided to take a wait and see approach. (OK I just wanted a free month!!) According to the rep I spoke with, O & A were not suspended for content but for a breach of contract signed after the apology.

Is this just damage control?

[johnniewalker]

doubt it.

Im not saying its not as bad, but there would be huge outrage none the less. JV and elvis weren't the greatest guys to get people fired up, but an xm suspension for a language flap would have gotten a huge response if it was ron and fez. The difference is to me is that the channel was created for opie and anthony and it is called the virus. Where does that leave ron and fez when they completely remove all o and a content and just leave ron and fez out there? To me it looks pretty scary for them.

[Earlshog]

Perhaps, or maybe even shit we just don't know about. Think of all the back-scratching bullshit you put up with at work, and then think of how much of it goes on that you don't even know of. I'm sure it's no different at XM. All I'm saying is that as big a piece to the puzzle as money is, it's not the only piece.

I still don't follow you, the only politics I see involved here are those powers who they need to approve this merger

[angrymissy]

yes I do think they would, but that is irrelevant, who cares? so if they wouldn't do the right thing it means you shouldn't? O & A and R & F are together on this... I thought everyone was supposed to stick together and fight for the same thing .

Well, IMO, I took the free month to show my displeasure on how they handled the situation. I think cancelling is a bit extreme, and would hurt R&F in the long run.

[dereckfishboy]

the only politics I see

My point exactly, bro..... the only politics you see...... why do you think we're privileged enough to know 24 hours later why what happened to who?

[thebroodwich]

i double concur. If R&F are ever gone (crossing my phingers that dont happen) im cancelling the subscription.

Why wait until it happens? If we don't organize proactively, now, there will be no 202. I love R&F, but the endless loop of yesterday's show with the parody songs is driving me nuts.

A lack of O&A impacts R&F as well. I used to keep it on 202 because it was always something different. Now it's the same few hours repeated.

I'm cancelling.

[Midkiff]

I wonder if this guy got involved to defend his black mistress' honor...

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x64/cuntburgers/m_ede352aab9a842643c9f807f447d149e.gif

[reillyluck]

Im not saying its not as bad, but there would be huge outrage none the less. JV and elvis weren't the greatest guys to get people fired up, but an xm suspension for a language flap would have gotten a huge response if it was ron and fez. The difference is to me is that the channel was created for opie and anthony and it is called the virus. Where does that leave ron and fez when they completely remove all o and a content and just leave ron and fez out there? To me it looks pretty scary for them.


I honestly believe if it wasnt for Peopleagainstcensorship.org, the outcry wouldnt have been so big for JV and Elvis. They are working hard at hand to get everyones voices heard. JV and Elvis do not have the loyal fan base that O&A and R&F have.