Harry Potter

[thepaulo]

I've seen the film and the boys are back next week so we'll wait to review it later.
But we are about to be hit with the ultimate perfect storm of Harry Potter mania.....This is the fifth movie and the seventh and final book comes out 11 days later.
There are only two kinds of people.....those who are obsessed by the books and those that are not.
Those that are obsessed by the books can now begin participating in an orgy of second guessing and anticipation.

[jonnyAK]

Is the movie good? Worthy of the books? Anything?:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:: surrender:

[cougarjake13]

i honestly havent seen any of the harry potter movies

been wanting to watch them just never get around to doing it

[fohat]

Is the movie good? Worthy of the books? Anything?:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:: surrender:

Paul-o isn't one to Snitch, but it looks like Harry Potter Might have oscar by the Snape of it's neck!

[Grendel_Kahn]

Paul-o isn't one to Snitch, but it looks like Harry Potter Might have oscar by the Snape of it's neck!

That was the first laugh out loud moment on this board I have had in a looong time.

[J.Clints]

I will be taking my son to watch this.

[Hottub]

Can you pick up my boy on your way out please.

[sailor]

I will be taking my son to watch this.

good excuse.

[J.Clints]

Can you pick up my boy on your way out please.
sure have him ready
good excuse.

sure is

[sailor]

i never read one of the books, but the movies are very well made and entertaining. i can only imagine how super cool they'd have been if they came out when i was a wee lad.

[JPMNICK]

i never read one of the books, but the movies are very well made and entertaining. i can only imagine how super cool they'd have been if they came out when i was a wee lad.

the books are really not that bad. def entertaining, and they are pretty quick reads for an adult.

[reillyluck]

full pledged Harry Potter Phan Checkin' In!!! Ive read and own all the books, reserved the one coming out already, and own all of the movies. Im a sucker phor Phantasy.

[JPMNICK]

full pledged Harry Potter Phan Checkin' In!!! Ive read and own all the books, reserved the one coming out already, and own all of the movies. Im a sucker phor Phantasy.

people like to trash on Harry potter, then they will sit there and discuss star wars and Lord of the Rings for 2 hours. they are all the same shit.

[sailor]

the books are really not that bad. def entertaining, and they are pretty quick reads for an adult.

i don't doubt it, but i would feel so silly reading one. almost as bad as reading a reprint of a novel after the movie comes out...with the lead actor on the cover. ugh.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/72/5d/7791224128a023dd4d348010._AA240_.L.jpg

[JPMNICK]

i don't doubt it, but i would feel so silly reading one. almost as bad as reading a reprint of a novel after the movie comes out...with the lead actor on the cover. ugh.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/72/5d/7791224128a023dd4d348010._AA240_.L.jpg

with IPOD's, cell phones, mobile TV, sidekicks, laptops and paltalk, anytime i see anyone reading anything I am suprised and reserve judgement, but you do make a strong case with that picture

[sailor]

with IPOD's, cell phones, mobile TV, sidekicks, laptops and paltalk, anytime i see anyone reading anything I am suprised and reserve judgement, but you do make a strong case with that picture

the only one i have is a cell phone. i'm a 21st century luddite. i also read a ton.

[JPMNICK]

the only one i have is a cell phone. i'm a 21st century luddite. i also read a ton.

i have them all and use stupid books to balance my wobbly bed or weigh down the back of my pickup truck

[reillyluck]

i don't doubt it, but i would feel so silly reading one. almost as bad as reading a reprint of a novel after the movie comes out...with the lead actor on the cover. ugh.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/72/5d/7791224128a023dd4d348010._AA240_.L.jpg

ew.

[reillyluck]

people like to trash on Harry potter, then they will sit there and discuss star wars and Lord of the Rings for 2 hours. they are all the same shit.

exactly. If you like it, go with it. you know what i say?

Expecto Patrono!!!!!

[sailor]

ew.

exactly.

[J.Clints]

people like to trash on Harry potter, then they will sit there and discuss star wars and Lord of the Rings for 2 hours. they are all the same shit.

while playing magic the gathering

[Don Stugots]

exactly. If you like it, go with it. you know what i say?

Expecto Patrono!!!!!

http://www.photocasket.com/goth/GomezTishTVPortrait.jpg

oh tish, i love it when you speak French.

[Kevin]

full pledged Harry Potter Phan Checkin' In!!! Ive read and own all the books, reserved the one coming out already, and own all of the movies. Im a sucker phor Phantasy.

Same!! And i got 13 outa 15 in a Harry Potter guess the voice game.. 10 in a row..



















Yea.. I am sad..

[bensonenson]

I'm just hoping the new book kills off Harry so this damn thing can end.

Whoever said that the series would live on with my generation - growing more mature and entertaining as we became increasingly shitfaced - was very .. very wrong.

[MellySmelly]

Since Paul-O can't discuss the movie yet, I will offer you my daughter's review. She went with him to the screening. Remember, this review is coming from a teeneager.

"was friggin awesome!!
Not very long,
but still pretty amazing.
Although they clearly had
to leave TONZ of stuff out
the parts they kept in were
outstanding. This new director
totally knows what he's doing!!
I was kinda upset cause one of
my fav parts of the book wasn't in
there but oh well.
A pretty good movie.
But TRUST me, if you like the
movie, you'll love the book even more.
-Tali

P.S. Snape was smexy teenager..
oooh and Rupert Grint ((Ron Weasley)) is sexy as hell ♥"

[StupidGirlllll]

I am going to the midnight showing tonight... I can not wait to see it I will check in with m,y review after. Thank You & Goodnight

[thepaulo]

stupidgirlllll....still waiting on your harry potter review......i gave mne yesterday......

"fuck harry potter......I love harry potter"

obviously I was conflicted

[EliSnow]

Like Reilly, I'm a huge Potter fan, and I saw the movie on Thursday night. I liked it a lot, and thought it was possibly the best of the bunch. My only problem was the very end, after the climax at the Ministry. I didn't think the conversation between Harry and Dumbledore had any near the emotional impact the same scene had in the book.

So I give four and half out of five broomsticks. Which makes me wonder: will the boy who lived become the boy who wins at Oscar time? ge-ge-ge.

[IMSlacker]

stupidgirlllll....still waiting on your harry potter review......i gave mne yesterday......

"fuck harry potter......I love harry potter"

obviously I was conflicted

Based on thepaulo's reaction to the movie, I'm going to hold off on seeing it for a while. I don't think my liver can take that sort of abuse.

[SinA]

just got back from seeing this with my chick, and I gotta say i liked it. especially the surprise at the end, when we find out that...

harry potter has aids


not hiv, full blown aids

[S0S]

Paul-O's review of the new Harry Potter was so unique and compelling that it will be remembered months from now.

In all seriousness, Paul-O you should be happy. Don't let a few naysayers get you down.

[AKA]

My favorite movie of the bunch - which is odd because it was my least favorite of the books.

[thepaulo]

will harry potter die?

[drjoek]

will harry potter die?

The actor Radcliffe predicted he would

Stay tough Paul O we dig ya man

[Skellington]

harry will die, it's inevitable.

i haven't seen the new movie yet, i'm waiting for nimwit parents with their 5 years to stop going to the 11pm showings. wtf happened to bedtimes?

[Doctor Manhattan]

will harry potter die?

We all are gonna die.

[AKA]

will harry potter die?

I am one of the few who doesn't think he will.

I can't imagine kids not even born yet, 20 years from now wanting to get into this series knowing that the title hero will die at the end. Characters like Harry, Frodo, Dorothy, Luke, and Neo need to alive by the end of their respective sagas. The dumbest move thing of all time was crapping over the Star Trek legacy in "Generations" when they killed Kirk...hey look! I'm using the Spoiler tags!! WOO! HOO!.

[JustJon]

Saw the movie yesterday, and really liked it. I think the twins steal every scene they are in (again), and Luna Lovegood was great.

And Harry won't die. I think she's following the hero archetype too closely at this point.

And AKA, Neo did die.

[Doctor Manhattan]

And AKA, Neo did die.

Damn it, I was going to watch that 3rd film tonight! :wallbash:

[AKA]

And AKA, Neo did die.

Ya know, I added that at the last second, and it kind of proves my point, because even though I couldn't really remember, the overriding feeling I now hvae of the Matrix movies is that the series was so ruined I don't want anything to do with any of them - even the first one.

[cupcakelove]

Saw the movie yesterday, and really liked it. I think the twins steal every scene they are in (again), and Luna Lovegood was great.

And Harry won't die. I think she's following the hero archetype too closely at this point.

And AKA, Neo did die.

Some of us like to pretend that those last two movies never happened.

[EliSnow]

I have no problem with Neo dying.

[StupidGirlllll]

I found it to be entertaining, not my fav one. I really like the first one the best.

[thepaulo]

Friday midnight....is anyone getting the book.....are have you received it early....in which case......we would like some spoilers

[cougarjake13]

Friday midnight....is anyone getting the book.....are have you received it early....in which case......we would like some spoilers

theres apparently spoilers already out there

i dont know them myself but i heard someone talking about it and quickly changed the station

[led37zep]

theres apparently spoilers already out there

i dont know them myself but i heard someone talking about it and quickly changed the station


Why? Not an attack on anyone, but when did adults start reading kids books?

[fohat]

My favorite movie of the bunch - which is odd because it was my least favorite of the books.

I concur with your assessment.

There was only 4 other people in the theater with me, it was a 10pm showing last night. Every 15 minutes the AC kicked on and was alwasy at a quiet spot in the film. When the film was over, i said to the other ppl, Wow I didn't realize Hogwarts had such a noisy air conditioner!!

Wokka Wokka Wokka

[Fallon]

Saw it this afternoon, thought it was real good.

[cougarjake13]

Why? Not an attack on anyone, but when did adults start reading kids books?

dont know

just to be a prick i guess

[Landblast]

I concur with your assessment.

There was only 4 other people in the theater with me, it was a 10pm showing last night. Every 15 minutes the AC kicked on and was alwasy at a quiet spot in the film. When the film was over, i said to the other ppl, Wow I didn't realize Hogwarts had such a noisy air conditioner!!

Wokka Wokka Wokka

fohat-UNMASKED!

[fohat]

fohat-UNMASKED!

Your sig pic gives me flashbacks!

[thepaulo]

now that Potter-mania will begin to fade.....
how great a literary achievement have the seven books been.....
did they revitalize a reading public?
will they stand the test of time?
was it an epic story of moral complexity or glorified kids books?

[JustJon]

now that Potter-mania will begin to fade.....
how great a literary achievement have the seven books been.....
did they revitalize a reading public?
will they stand the test of time?
was it an epic story of moral complexity or glorified kids books?

The mania has 3 years left. It'll really be over when the movies are done.

And they're high level kids books. Solid stories with moderate language. And one naughty word. ooooooo

But I think they will last at least a generation or two, dunno if it'll be Narnia or Lord of the Rings just yet.

[reillyluck]

ok...the time has come for me to see Harry Potter. I dont like to go during the first weeks of opening. let all the maniacs see it first. Me, alex, Regina and Stugots will be going to Imax tonight to check it out.

[Landblast]

ok...the time has come for me to see Harry Potter. I dont like to go during the first weeks of opening. let all the maniacs see it first. Me, alex, Regina and Stugots will be going to Imax tonight to check it out.

dont' forget to take "the wand".

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/pbr_/J-1.jpg

[thepaulo]

now that Harry Potter is a lame duck with no more books ....so has anyone moved on the Trilogy of His Dark Materials...the first book is The Golden Compass....

[OGC]

now that Harry Potter is a lame duck with no more books ....so has anyone moved on the Trilogy of His Dark Materials...the first book is The Golden Compass....


I'm sure I'll be taking my kids to it during the Christmas vacation.

Am I going to be bored PaulO ?

[thepaulo]

stock answer...."not as good as the book."

[JustJon]

I generally stay away from children's books, unless I'm reading to my niece or nephew, with the exception of Potter. Is the Dark Materials trilogy really worth reading?

[thepaulo]

It's a little different but probably has a higher level of literary pedigree.

[thepaulo]

J.K. Rowling says her teenage daughter is pushing for another Potter book and it might happen.

[thejives]

J.K. Rowling says her teenage daughter is pushing for another Potter book and it might happen.

her teenage daughter and a billion dollar paycheck.

[thepaulo]

That makes J.K. Rowlings sound like a whore.

[OGC]

That makes J.K. Rowlings sound like a RICH whore.


I think you missed a word there Paulo. I fixed it for you.

[thepaulo]

two questions.....
what does Troll have to do with Harry Potter?

Is anyone reading the Spiderwick Chronicals?

[Thebazile78]

IIs the Dark Materials trilogy really worth reading?

YES.

Definitely. If you're near a Target store, they're $6 each in paperback. I want to re-read them sometime soon...it'll take me a couple of weekends.

two questions.....
what does Troll have to do with Harry Potter?

Is anyone reading the Spiderwick Chronicals?

Troll and Harry Potter ?? As in that movie where the "fantasy world" takes over an apartment building (my brother Ger loved it as a kid...I think he had a crush on the Lockhart chick in it) ??

IMO, nothing, other than they both have trolls in them.

I haven't started Spiderwick yet...they're on my list. Hearing that Freddie Highmore (who I loved in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) was cast in the film version and listening to some of the buzz has made me more than a little curious, but I often have trouble with series like that ... it's hard to keep up when there are new books coming out every season! Maybe I'll go and get a library card so I can rip through them, rather than buy them.

[thepaulo]

this is essentially a trivia question......
there is a very, very, very specific relationship between Troll and Harry Potter.....
enough to call Rowling a plagiarist.

[PhishHead]

this is essentially a trivia question......
there is a very, very, very specific relationship between Troll and Harry Potter.....
enough to call Rowling a plagiarist.

I don't think you would call her a plagiarist if we are thinking of the same thing, that there was a Character in the movie troll named Harry Potter Jr.

I mean if you would call someone a plagiarist for using the same name as someone else in another book or movie, almost every author would be a plagiarist to some extent.

[Thebazile78]

this is essentially a trivia question......
there is a very, very, very specific relationship between Troll and Harry Potter.....
enough to call Rowling a plagiarist.

I just IMDB'd it.

I disagree that that aspect alone is enough to support legal accusations of plagiarism. (http://www.plagiarism.org/learning_center/what_is_plagiarism.html)

While at the very base definition, OK, it's enough, true. But more than that, no. I disagree.

Honestly, the film was so painful to watch (like I said, only my brother Ger could tolerate it) that I wouldn't be surprised if she'd forgotten she'd seen it at all.

[thepaulo]

yeah...there's no legal case there but still I love stupid trivia like that.....I'm very trivial.

[thepaulo]

http://www.moviefone.com/insidemovies/2009/07/02/harry-potter-6-behind-the-scenes-set-visit/?icid=webmail|wbml-aol|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moviefone.com%2Fins idemovies%2F2009%2F07%2F02%2Fharry-potter-6-behind-the-scenes-set-visit%2F

I need to learn a lot more about Potter.

[Gerald]

I'm really tired of the Potter formula. To me these movies are all identical with stories that are completely interchangeable. I liked the first one but the shtick has worn progressively thinner with me on each subsequent sequel. It depresses to me to see a collection of esteemed British thespians waving twigs in front of green screens while reciting indigenous gibberish. I have a problem with fanatsy movies in general because of the inconsistency of the magic aspect where in a moment of lazy storytelling it can be used to suddenly rectify any problem, but in other situations when conflict has to be manufactured the same powers can't be called on. Like in Lord of the Rings for example...Gandalf can use his wizardry to zap a dragon, but he can't summon a floatation spell to send Frodo flying like Superman over the volcano to immediately destroy the ring.

[TripleSkeet]

I'm really tired of the Potter formula. To me these movies are all identical with stories that are completely interchangeable. I liked the first one but the shtick has worn progressively thinner with me on each subsequent sequel. It depresses to me to see a collection of esteemed British thespians waving twigs in front of green screens while reciting indigenous gibberish. I have a problem with fanatsy movies in general because of the inconsistency of the magic aspect where in a moment of lazy storytelling it can be used to suddenly rectify any problem, but in other situations when conflict has to be manufactured the same powers can't be called on. Like in Lord of the Rings for example...Gandalf can use his wizardry to zap a dragon, but he can't summon a floatation spell to send Frodo flying like Superman over the volcano to immediately destroy the ring.

Your trying to introduce logic into fantasy, they go together like oil and water.

If you cant suspend your disbelief then movies like these arent for you.

I personally love the Harry Potter series.

[thepaulo]

I'm really tired of the Potter formula. To me these movies are all identical with stories that are completely interchangeable. I liked the first one but the shtick has worn progressively thinner with me on each subsequent sequel. It depresses to me to see a collection of esteemed British thespians waving twigs in front of green screens while reciting indigenous gibberish. I have a problem with fanatsy movies in general because of the inconsistency of the magic aspect where in a moment of lazy storytelling it can be used to suddenly rectify any problem, but in other situations when conflict has to be manufactured the same powers can't be called on. Like in Lord of the Rings for example...Gandalf can use his wizardry to zap a dragon, but he can't summon a floatation spell to send Frodo flying like Superman over the volcano to immediately destroy the ring.

My reflex is to agree but the maturing of the characters and the deeping of the story lines as it moves toward it's conclusion have turned me from somewhat apathetic to more involved and almost if not quite a fan.

[Gerald]

If you cant suspend your disbelief then movies like these arent for you.

I'll happily suspend my disbelief for movies of any genre if they bring something of innovative value to the storytelling table and don't rely on boilerplate conventions.

[Aggie]

I've always had rotating sigs but in honor of how excited I am for HBP I have had this as my only sig for over a month.

As for some of the comments above me, it's like Paulo said, the storyline and characters mature throughout the books and if you re-read them all after the last book you can see all of the nuggets she threw in along the way. She had a plan and building up to the last book (or last two movies)...Harry learning of his fate be the 'chosen one' and how he prepares to destroy Voldemort. She's not afraid to kill important characters and put Harry through hell in the story. I guess I can see why Gerald doesn't like it but there are millions who disagree with him.

[hammersavage]

I agree with Aggie

[TripleSkeet]

I'll happily suspend my disbelief for movies of any genre if they bring something of innovative value to the storytelling table and don't rely on boilerplate conventions.

That just screams SNOB. Seriously, get over yourself.

[mikeyboy]

I've never actually seen a Harry Potter movie in the theater, but I'll be there for this one opening night with my 8 year old daughter. She's a huge fan and is nearly finished reading the series for the 3rd (!) time. After having to endure the postponement of the release for 8 months (which is an eternity for a kid) she is really excited. I'm hoping to take her to see it on an IMAX screen, but haven't seen anything about the pre-orders for those shows yet for NYC.

[Furtherman]

I charge this thread of wizardry!!!

[Aggie]

I've never actually seen a Harry Potter movie in the theater, but I'll be there for this one opening night with my 8 year old daughter. She's a huge fan and is nearly finished reading the series for the 3rd (!) time. After having to endure the postponement of the release for 8 months (which is an eternity for a kid) she is really excited. I'm hoping to take her to see it on an IMAX screen, but haven't seen anything about the pre-orders for those shows yet for NYC.

I'm 30 and I felt the same way.

I think I've read them all at least 4 or 5 times. :help:

[Foster]

I don't usually get excited for movies, but I read all the books multiple times and can't wait.

as Aggie said she definitely had the storyline planned out, and the stories matured with the characters.

...and as TripleSkeet said Gerald's a snob

[thepaulo]

I don't usually get excited for movies, but I read all the books multiple times and can't wait.

as Aggie said she definitely had the storyline planned out, and the stories matured with the characters.

...and as TripleSkeet said Gerald's a snob

Have to defend Gerald. He's not a snob and has a point about fantasy books and movies having an easy out by using some crazy magic stunt to move the story along.
On the other side, I do think her imagination seems bottomless with the endless variety of crazy stunts.

[thepaulo]

I have a question. What are Potter fans called?

[TooLowBrow]

I have a question. What are Potter fans called?

pottheads

[thepaulo]

pottheads


You used magic powers to steal that from my mind.

[TooLowBrow]

You used magic powers to steal that from my mind.

alohamora!

[TripleSkeet]

Have to defend Gerald. He's not a snob and has a point about fantasy books and movies having an easy out by using some crazy magic stunt to move the story along.
On the other side, I do think her imagination seems bottomless with the endless variety of crazy stunts.

But honestly, how could you fault a movie that is ABOUT MAGIC, for using a magic stunt to tie up a loose end??? Its the whole point of the story!!!

And of all the choices he couldve picked I think he chose the worst one with Harry Potter. That series of books was the best told fantasy story Ive ever read. Way better the Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia.

[myfriendheather]

But honestly, how could you fault a movie that is ABOUT MAGIC, for using a magic stunt to tie up a loose end??? Its the whole point of the story!!!

And of all the choices he couldve picked I think he chose the worst one with Harry Potter. That series of books was the best told fantasy story Ive ever read. Way better the Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia.

I agree with you on Chronicles of Narnia. They were great as a kid, but don't seem to hold up with time.
And as geeked out as I am for all things HP though, no one can touch Tolkien when it comes to weaving a bad ass fantasy story. I'll see your Dumbledore and raise you...Gandalf!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4JzNtad_aw0/SOS-isWKG-I/AAAAAAAAAFs/PBJowyAPQss/s1600-h/401724715_bd7f2c27ca.jpg

[TripleSkeet]

I agree with you on Chronicles of Narnia. They were great as a kid, but don't seem to hold up with time.
And as geeked out as I am for all things HP though, no one can touch Tolkien when it comes to weaving a bad ass fantasy story. I'll see your Dumbledore and raise you...Gandalf!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4JzNtad_aw0/SOS-isWKG-I/AAAAAAAAAFs/PBJowyAPQss/s1600-h/401724715_bd7f2c27ca.jpg

Meh. I liked The Hobbit and all but I really think the Harry Potter series is ALOT better.

[keithy_19]

I read the first four books in about two weeks. I loved them. Then, some how, I 'grew' up. Or, I felt like I should 'grow' up.

Just tonight I watched the '...Order of the Phoenix' and kind of regret not reading all the books. It was a damn good movie. And hell, the books were even better.

Though, it bothered me that Hermione's name was said differently then my mind thought.

[keithy_19]

Meh. I liked The Hobbit and all but I really think the Harry Potter series is ALOT better.

I LOVED The Hobbit. To this day it's one of my favorite books. I've read it so many times.

But to be fair, the rest of the series didn't hold my attention as well as I hoped.

[TooLowBrow]

Meh. I liked The Hobbit and all but I really think the Harry Potter series is ALOT better.

hp focused more on the characters while lotr was like a report written about an actual subject. i think tolken knew the mayors of hobbit town by name even tho they had no part of his novels.
the closest hp came to that was rowling saying, oh yeah, dumbledore was a gay

but that also points to the fact that there was no sexuality in tolkens work, they were all guy loving, fairy kissing (but not touching) queers

[thepaulo]

I agree with you on Chronicles of Narnia. They were great as a kid, but don't seem to hold up with time.
And as geeked out as I am for all things HP though, no one can touch Tolkien when it comes to weaving a bad ass fantasy story. I'll see your Dumbledore and raise you...Gandalf!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4JzNtad_aw0/SOS-isWKG-I/AAAAAAAAAFs/PBJowyAPQss/s1600-h/401724715_bd7f2c27ca.jpg

This movie brings HP closer to LOTR territory...especially the moment where Dumbledore gets all Gandalf on your ass.

[OGC]

Is anyone out there planning oh going to a midnight showing tonight ? My wife and kids got their tickets yesterday. The manager who sold them the tickets said that they had almost sold out 4 theaters and were about to start on their 5th.

And that is in west bumfuck.

[myfriendheather]

This movie brings HP closer to LOTR territory...especially the moment where Dumbledore gets all Gandalf on your ass.

The cave scene...I can't wait!

[ANC]

I only saw the first movie and I'm not a HP fan. My sister has tix to the advanced screening in NYC tonight and I may have to pickup my nephews and take them in for it. Sorry folks that a ticket may be wasted on someone who couldn't care less...

[realmenhatelife]

5 of the 6 midnight shows at my local megaplex are already sold out, this is going to be a monster.

I enjoyed the books but found a lot of fault with them. I enjoy the movies but probably wouldn't if I hadn't read the books. I wish the His Dark Materials movies would've taken off, too bad Golden Compass was so terrible.

[Aggie]

OMG I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'm such a dork.)

[hammersavage]

OMG I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'm such a dork.)

Cute when its a chick. Dorky for a dude. So I'M the dork

[TripleSkeet]

I read the first four books in about two weeks. I loved them. Then, some how, I 'grew' up. Or, I felt like I should 'grow' up.

Just tonight I watched the '...Order of the Phoenix' and kind of regret not reading all the books. It was a damn good movie. And hell, the books were even better.


Do yourself a favor and reas the last 3 books. Order of the Phoenix was frustrating and a little slow, but the last 2 were amazing.

The final book was so incredible I couldnt figure out how they could make a movie out of it and do it any justice. Then I found out they were making 2 movies out of it and was extremely pleased.

[thepaulo]

Do yourself a favor and reas the last 3 books. Order of the Phoenix was frustrating and a little slow, but the last 2 were amazing.

The final book was so incredible I couldnt figure out how they could make a movie out of it and do it any justice. Then I found out they were making 2 movies out of it and was extremely pleased.

They are filming the last two movies now.

[Aggie]

Keithy, if you enjoyed the movie then finish reading the series like TS said. I like the books way better because of all the detail but I think they do a good job with the movies. I was so glad to hear they got the OK to make the last book into 2 movies because it defnitely needs it to do it justice and even remotely cover the important parts. This is one of the first series of books I've ever been into and no matter how many times I read them I still love them.

[thepaulo]

fuck you harry potter!

[Foster]

fuck you harry potter!

hey! you leave harry potter alone!

[Aggie]

fuck you harry potter!

Why the hostility?

I'm sleepy from going to the 9:10 show last night, it didn't get out until midnight but I was not disappointed. I really liked this movie, definitely better than The Order of the Phoenix. I thought it was better directed and they stuck to the important stuff (even though I hate when the fun book details get chopped out.) There was several main things that were changed from the book but I expect that to happen. They did a pretty good job adapting it. I'm so glad my Harry fix has been satisfied.

[thepaulo]

Why the hostility?

I'm sleepy from going to the 9:10 show last night, it didn't get out until midnight but I was not disappointed. I really liked this movie, definitely better than The Order of the Phoenix. I thought it was better directed and they stuck to the important stuff (even though I hate when the fun book details get chopped out.) There was several main things that were changed from the book but I expect that to happen. They did a pretty good job adapting it. I'm so glad my Harry fix has been satisfied.

sorry...I liked the movie....it was just something I said when I was drunk once.

[Foster]

sorry...I liked the movie....it was just something I said when I was drunk once.

you mean last night

[nate1000]

Why the hostility?

I'm sleepy from going to the 9:10 show last night, it didn't get out until midnight but I was not disappointed. I really liked this movie, definitely better than The Order of the Phoenix. I thought it was better directed and they stuck to the important stuff (even though I hate when the fun book details get chopped out.) There was several main things that were changed from the book but I expect that to happen. They did a pretty good job adapting it. I'm so glad my Harry fix has been satisfied.

The reviews I've read have ripped the movie for several of the content decisions made as well as turning the franchise into Twilight with all of the raging teen hormones.

I've heard that huge chunks of Tom Riddle's past were gouged out of the movie and the Snape's background story-line was all but ignored.

Any of that true?

[hammersavage]

I read this book a day after it came out. How long ago was that? I won't remember what they left out.

[Aggie]

The reviews I've read have ripped the movie for several of the content decisions made as well as turning the franchise into Twilight with all of the raging teen hormones.

I've heard that huge chunks of Tom Riddle's past were gouged out of the movie and the Snape's background story-line was all but ignored.

Any of that true?

Yes.

About the Twilight thing, that's just a natural progression of the characters. They're 16 or 17 now and they make out with each other and have jealous feelings. Big whoop, does Twilight have a lock down on teen hormones? Would they say that about another movie about teens? I don't think that's a fair assesment.

There was a whole memory left out from Riddle's past and they other two flashbacks they show are edited down to make them short. I cut them slack for what they have to cut out, they have to make it a movie that can stand on its own for anyone who didn't read the books and keep it under 3 hours. I think this was a lot more entertaining because of the light hearted stuff and it wasn't as bogged down in details. They knew they weren't going to have time for everything. In light of all that it's a very good movie. You just can't be a purist about it.

There were also significant changes in:

the cave scene, Dumbledore's death scene, they left out the funeral and they made up a whole incident at the Burrow that never happened in the book not to mention some stuff with Ginny and Harry. They took a lot of liberties but I think it worked.

[TripleSkeet]

Yes.

About the Twilight thing, that's just a natural progression of the characters. They're 16 or 17 now and they make out with each other and have jealous feelings. Big whoop, does Twilight have a lock down on teen hormones? Would they say that about another movie about teens? I don't think that's a fair assesment.

There was a whole memory left out from Riddle's past and they other two flashbacks they show are edited down to make them short. I cut them slack for what they have to cut out, they have to make it a movie that can stand on its own for anyone who didn't read the books and keep it under 3 hours. I think this was a lot more entertaining because of the light hearted stuff and it wasn't as bogged down in details. They knew they weren't going to have time for everything. In light of all that it's a very good movie. You just can't be a purist about it.

There were also significant changes in:

the cave scene, Dumbledore's death scene, they left out the funeral and they made up a whole incident at the Burrow that never happened in the book not to mention some stuff with Ginny and Harry. They took a lot of liberties but I think it worked.

Im going to see it tonight but I cant believe they left out the fucking funeral!!! The whole time I was reading the book I could picture just how it would look in hte movie. Man that sucks.

The reviews I've read have ripped the movie for several of the content decisions made as well as turning the franchise into Twilight with all of the raging teen hormones.

I've heard that huge chunks of Tom Riddle's past were gouged out of the movie and the Snape's background story-line was all but ignored.

Any of that true?

What Snape storyline do you mean? His past? Because that shouldnt come about until the 8th movie.

[thepaulo]

I've heard lots of talk about leaving the funeral out. The ending in the movie is very satisfying. I think it serves as a excellent subsitute to a drawn out funeral.

[nate1000]

I've heard lots of talk about leaving the funeral out. The ending in the movie is very satisfying. I think it serves as a excellent subsitute to a drawn out funeral.

So much for the spoiler tags.

I cannot believe this. It seemed such a naturally perfect ending to the book and movie and one of the most moving, poignant scenes in the entire series. :wallbash:

[Foster]

So much for the spoiler tags.

I cannot believe this. It seemed such a naturally perfect ending to the book and movie and one of the most moving, poignant scenes in the entire series. :wallbash:

haven't seen the movie yet, thanks Paulo, but maybe they will have the funeral scene at the beginning of the next movie.

[Misteriosa]

I've heard lots of talk about leaving the funeral out.

i hate you.

thanks a lot. :furious:

[Aggie]

Me and Skeet used spoiler tags. Sorry he ruined it guys. :(

It's still a good ending even without it. It really sets up the next movie well.

[thepaulo]

Look...people who have read the book know what's going to happen....We're taking about a funeral....if you don't know who we're talking about then really that statement is far too vague. The point is someone dies and then everyone pays tribute to that person. I thought it worked well.

[nate1000]

Look...people who have read the book know what's going to happen....We're taking about a funeral....if you don't know who we're talking about then really that statement is far too vague. The point is someone dies and then everyone pays tribute to that person. I thought it worked well.

I'd bet that nearly everybody who listens to Ron and Fez prolly remember O&A's bit on that subject. The spoiler is not the plot point from the book, it is the elimination of this scene from the movie.

[Foster]

Look...people who have read the book know what's going to happen....We're taking about a funeral....if you don't know who we're talking about then really that statement is far too vague. The point is someone dies and then everyone pays tribute to that person. I thought it worked well.

putting up the spoiler wraps would have just been common courtesy.

Misteriosa was really looking forward to that funeral

[thepaulo]

It's been widely disseminated that the funeral was out.

[Foster]

It's been widely disseminated that the funeral was out.

no it wasn't

[disneyspy]

harrys dead?

[Foster]

harrys dead?

he shouldn't die in this movie, or does he Paulo?

[thepaulo]

no it wasn't

yes it was.

[Contra]

I am looking forward to this, I've liked the movies so far

[disneyspy]

im glad harrys dead,aint seen a one of his movies yet

[Foster]

im glad harrys dead,aint seen a one of his movies yet

the last movie is basicly Weekend at Bernie's with magic wands

[Foster]

yes it was.

prove it

[disneyspy]

the last movie is basicly Weekend at Bernie's with magic wands

i hope he flys his broom into a channel marker buoy and it makes a loud CLAAAANG

[Foster]

i hope he flys his broom into a channel marker buoy and it makes a loud CLAAAANG

you read the books?

[hammersavage]

you read the books?

he doesn't seem like a 'reader'

[disneyspy]

he doesn't seem like a 'reader'

youre a reader

[TripleSkeet]

yes it was.

No it wasnt. I hadnt heard that until this thread.

I saw it tonight, thought it was good but didnt do the book justice. Aggie I dont know how you liked that ending. They didnt just cut the funeral out, they cut out the entire action sequence from the tower until they escaped! What the fuck? It was like an anti-climax. I understand why they probably did it considering the last movie should have a HUGE fight scene in the school involving everyone, but if your going to eliminate all that, you show the funeral. And do it right. Show the lake creatures singing, the centaurs shooting their arrows, everything just as she described it.

The funeral shouldve been left in. And another question, what the fuck was up with the whole sequence in the wheat where they blow up the Weasleys house??? Nothing like that happens in the book. With the time they wasted there they couldve kept more of the books storylines included.

[hammersavage]

I think it was a bad job not having the funeral.

But I thought the film was the most cinematic of the series. There were a ton of scenes that didn't play with glaring background music like it normally does. Every scene advanced the plot from the very beginning, except the Quidditch scenes.

More sexual tension than Nine 1/2 Weeks.

[thepaulo]

prove it


too much work.

[Foster]

too much work.

how hard could it be if it was so wide spread?

[thepaulo]

how hard could it be if it was so wide spread?

Can't help that. I'm lazy.

[nate1000]

More sexual tension than Nine 1/2 Weeks.

Srsly?

Well I guess this is another that the kids will have to wait several years to see. We just let them watch the Goblet of Fire a couple of weeks ago.

[TripleSkeet]

Srsly?

Well I guess this is another that the kids will have to wait several years to see. We just let them watch the Goblet of Fire a couple of weeks ago.

You dont let your kids watch people kiss?

[Aggie]

No it wasnt. I hadnt heard that until this thread.

I saw it tonight, thought it was good but didnt do the book justice. Aggie I dont know how you liked that ending. They didnt just cut the funeral out, they cut out the entire action sequence from the tower until they escaped! What the fuck? It was like an anti-climax. I understand why they probably did it considering the last movie should have a HUGE fight scene in the school involving everyone, but if your going to eliminate all that, you show the funeral. And do it right. Show the lake creatures singing, the centaurs shooting their arrows, everything just as she described it.

The funeral shouldve been left in. And another question, what the fuck was up with the whole sequence in the wheat where they blow up the Weasleys house??? Nothing like that happens in the book. With the time they wasted there they couldve kept more of the books storylines included.

Yeah, I won't say I wasn't disappointed but I'm trying to view the movie as someone who never read the book. I feel like since we read the book we got all of the benefit and goodness out of it. I would have loved to see the fight scene and the funeral but it wasn't enough to make me not like the movie. I was bummed that they showed Fawkes at the end flying and we didn't get to hear the Phoenix song. I remember reading that and wondering how they would make that sound.

[TooLowBrow]

i can see them moving the battle to the next movie, cause dumb non fan movie goers wouldnt remember/understand the whole 'defeating the owner of the elder wand makes you the new elder wand master' aspects. theyd pretty much have to reshow what happened anyway

[thepaulo]

i can see them moving the battle to the next movie, cause dumb non fan movie goers wouldnt remember/understand the whole 'defeating the owner of the elder wand makes you the new elder wand master' aspects. theyd pretty much have to reshow what happened anyway

are you having fun behind your spoiler curtains making fun of us muggles?

[grlNIN]

The "Twilight" similarities in teen romance are not plot lines that actually drive the movie, more than the fact that they are necessary componets for the end result in the series (good prevails?). It would be weird to have asexual characters who are all "friends" then when we reach the epilogue they are suddenly all married to eachother for no reason other than to make it nicey nice. It's so much more fulfilling to see the development and struggles within their interpersonal relationships, it helps to bring a sense of normalcy to an otherwise abnormal story.

To that end the incorporation of the events that took place at Weasley house helped to show that the fear and acts of violence are now occurring in both Muggle and Wizarding worlds alike (Diagon Alley, etc.). I think that the first chapters in HBP better help to establish this though the meeting of both Prime Ministers and their exchange of information as the years progress (it also is a great way to see the extent of denial, horror and cluelessness on Fudge's behalf.). Aside from all of that i think that adding in this sequence gave a way for them to further show the tension/feelings between Ginny & Harry and also bring light to the relationship that exists between Tonks and Remus. (I was glad that they used her true physical appearance, it made her look more grown up than the one they presented in OOTP)


In talking to my boyfriend last night (we saw it at 11:20 and got out at 2am) i said that i feel that this movie was so superior to the rest because it relies mainly on pure individual character development. We finally get to see Hermione come into her own but finally with the vulnerability of a young woman. I think in terms of vulnerability we are now seeing it from the adults as well, and not just with the kids/teens that would naturally be susceptible to Voldermort's evils. Arthur tells Harry that Molly won't even leave the house, Slughorn has great shame in what he has hidden internally and outwardly hide from Death Eaters, even Draco's mother is in fear for her son's life what with her husband now in Azkaban, wish they would have given more emphasis within that situation.

I was really happy to finally see Harry on the other side of the coin for once (at least until the last half an hour or so). He is finally learning how to accept the fact that in order for good to prevail some evil aspects of human nature must flourish. It was really evident in both the situations that unfolded in the cave and with his cursing Draco. I thought back to OOTP and during the Ministry fight he failed to successfully curse Bellatrix because as she said "You really have to want to cause pain in order to do any harm.". He wouldnt have been able to effectively cast the Sectumsempra on Draco if it wasnt something he totally and completely wanted to inflict on him.

[thepaulo]

Grinn is obviously in the advanced Potter class.

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah, I won't say I wasn't disappointed but I'm trying to view the movie as someone who never read the book. I feel like since we read the book we got all of the benefit and goodness out of it. I would have loved to see the fight scene and the funeral but it wasn't enough to make me not like the movie. I was bummed that they showed Fawkes at the end flying and we didn't get to hear the Phoenix song. I remember reading that and wondering how they would make that sound.

See this is where I disagree. I know people that have never read the books and everyone of them said the same thing. "This movie completely lost me." The one girl said she never read the books because each movie was able to stand alone on its own, until this one. She had no clue who the fuck Grenrir Grayback was, she didnt realize Tonks was the same person that was in OOTP, and she didnt get how they could just walk out after killing Dumbledore without any resistance.

The other thing that kind of annoyed me was, just like in the Goblet of Fire movie, they take one the biggest surprises out of the movie by just showing the audience what was going on. That pissed me off because that was one of the main reasons I liked the books, its hard to figure out where the twist is. They really dumb down the movies in that way.

[grlNIN]

She had no clue who the fuck Grenrir Grayback was, she didnt realize Tonks was the same person that was in OOTP, and she didnt get how they could just walk out after killing Dumbledore without any resistance.


The Battle of the Astronomy Tower was probably the most anti-climactic move they've made in any of the movies in this series so far. I can see editing for unnecessary bulk but in them adding the Burrow scene would it have been terribly hard for them to introduce the relationship between Bill and Fleur along with the one between Tonks and Remus? Also, with Fenrir and Bella setting the fire, don't you think they could have added some kind of aftermath scene in which Remus exposes the significance Fenrir's character?

I get that there are obvious time issues and every movie shouldn't solely focus on battling/dueling but the sheer amount of characters and twisting of the Astronomy Tower battle (not including any of D.A. or T.O.O.T.P.) was really fucked up now that i think of it in retrospect.

[TripleSkeet]

The Battle of the Astronomy Tower was probably the most anti-climactic move they've made in any of the movies in this series so far. I can see editing for unnecessary bulk but in them adding the Burrow scene would it have been terribly hard for them to introduce the relationship between Bill and Fleur along with the one between Tonks and Remus? Also, with Fenrir and Bella setting the fire, don't you think they could have added some kind of aftermath scene in which Remus exposes the significance Fenrir's character?

I get that there are obvious time issues and every movie shouldn't solely focus on battling/dueling but the sheer amount of characters and twisting of the Astronomy Tower battle (not including any of D.A. or T.O.O.T.P.) was really fucked up now that i think of it in retrospect.

Yea it took me a little while before I realized how messed up it was.

[Foster]

so it sounds like I shouldn't bother to go see it...

[grlNIN]

I found that the director said the following about that particular scene:

According to David Heyman, the Battle of the Lightning-Struck Tower was left out of the sixth film because, as there is another battle at Hogwarts (the actual Battle of Hogwarts) in the eighth film, they are trying to avoid repetition.[4]

This dumbfounds me because it's such a cheap way out in my opinion. Saying that it would be too repetitious is stupid because, not for nothing, but every time they battle it is essentially the same principle, good fighting evil, using wands, etc. The fact that it was withheld simply because of it also taking place in Hogwarts? Well then why did they even bother with Draco and Harry dueling in the boy's bathroom, i mean, since they already dueled in COS.

I don't think any avid/diehard Harry Potter fan would have found the Astronomy Tower and Battle of Hogwarts similar in any way, shape or form.

What a fucking asshole.

[thepaulo]

Rude and rude.

[TripleSkeet]

I found that the director said the following about that particular scene:



This dumbfounds me because it's such a cheap way out in my opinion. Saying that it would be too repetitious is stupid because, not for nothing, but every time they battle it is essentially the same principle, good fighting evil, using wands, etc. The fact that it was withheld simply because of it also taking place in Hogwarts? Well then why did they even bother with Draco and Harry dueling in the boy's bathroom, i mean, since they already dueled in COS.

I don't think any avid/diehard Harry Potter fan would have found the Astronomy Tower and Battle of Hogwarts similar in any way, shape or form.

What a fucking asshole.

If you look at what I posted earlier that was exactly what I guessed. My problem is they couldve had a more conclusive ending if they had at least done the funeral.

[RoseBlood]

Gonna see it tonight, I better not fall asleep!

[thepaulo]

Harry doesn't seem remotely afraid of the one who must not be named....
so much so he spits his name out repeatedly.

[Foster]

Harry doesn't seem remotely afraid of the one who must not be named....
so much so he spits his name out repeatedly.

thats because he's bad to the bone

[TooLowBrow]

Harry doesn't seem remotely afraid of the one who must not be named....
so much so he spits his name out repeatedly.

he feels that not saying the name gives it power, fag

[hammersavage]

he feels that not saying the name gives it power, fag

its the wizard world's n-word

[mikeyboy]

I saw it tonight with my daughter. We both enjoyed it. She's read the books 3 times, so she knows what's going on a lot better than I do. Sad that I spent most of the walk home asking an 8 year old questions about the movie I just saw.

[TooLowBrow]

its the wizard world's n-word

its like rf.netters who say 'the h word' instead of hammersavage

[TripleSkeet]

its the wizard world's n-word

I thought "mudblood" was the wizards n word.

[thepaulo]

Voldemort....Voldemort....Voldemort!

[Foster's Blackberry]

Voldemort....Voldemort....Voldemort!

You're confusing Harry Potter with Beetlejuice

[newport king]

ok im late to the party on this one. but only saw the 1st movie and this most recent one.

can someone explain how hermione can be a wizard? both her parents are muggles. don't u have have some sort of wizard bloodline?

[TooLowBrow]

ok im late to the party on this one. but only saw the 1st movie and this most recent one.

can someone explain how hermione can be a wizard? both her parents are muggles. don't u have have some sort of wizard bloodline?

anyone can be a wizard regardless of parents, also some people with 2 wizard parents cant do magic

[Gerald]

I saw the tail end of the latest Potter yesterday evening. Spoiler question...

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Why didn't Alan Rickman and/or Helena Bonham Carter and her masked cohorts just kill Harry after Dumbledore fell to his death? The young sorcerer kept coming after them feebly with his weak-ass spells that were no match for their level of wizardry which was clearly much more advanced. They had him dead to rights - he was on his back on the ground; forget magical powers, they could've just curb-stomped him on the spot. Since he was the chosen one who was foretold to be become better at waving his twig and reciting gibberish than those who did likewise while dabbling in the black arts, why not kill him right there to ensure that evil will triumph indefinitely for the foreseeable future? Needless to say, these are rhetorical questions because obviously the stupid kid had to live to fulfill his stupid preordained destiny that the first film mapped out, which has taken what seems like hundreds of hours of screen time to get to for the sweet release of the final next installment(s). Somehow I have a feeling Warners is going to capitalize on aggravating me with this series by releasing Deathly Hollows Volume 1 and Volume 2 a year apart just so I'll have to endlessly hear during this span about how invaluable these films were to the annals of cinematic history. Ugh.

I will say, though, that the snippet I saw of 1/2 Blood Prince looked great and was very well made from a technical standpoint. Harry has just proved himself to be too vanilla of a character for me to remain tuned in to what I've perceived as an unsatisfactory story arc overall that started to leave me with a feeling of indifference even before his balls dropped and he discovered chicks - around the time when it became clear that all involved participants in this fantasy universe were trapped in a narrative holding pattern. Bear in mind I'm not ripping the books since I've never read any of them and for all I know they could be masterpieces of atmospheric descriptiveness. I know this saga is beloved by many and I'm not trying to come off like the hipster in the room by saying I'll be ecstatic when this series wraps up (until Rowling goes back to the well to revive the 'chise with Harry circa his 20's)...I honestly believe at the end of the day this cinematic brand name has offered little more than perfunctory fantasy homogenization on a storytelling level.

[thepaulo]

I thought I was the one who only watched 15 minutes of a movie.

[Aggie]

I saw the tail end of the latest Potter yesterday evening. Spoiler question...

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Why didn't Alan Rickman and/or Helena Bonham Carter and her masked cohorts just kill Harry after Dumbledore fell to his death? The young sorcerer kept coming after them feebly with his weak-ass spells that were no match for their level of wizardry which was clearly much more advanced. They had him dead to rights - he was on his back on the ground; forget magical powers, they could've just curb-stomped him on the spot. Since he was the chosen one who was foretold to be become better at waving his twig and reciting gibberish than those who did likewise while dabbling in the black arts, why not kill him right there to ensure that evil will triumph indefinitely for the foreseeable future? Needless to say, these are rhetorical questions because obviously the stupid kid had to live to fulfill his stupid preordained destiny that the first film mapped out, which has taken what seems like hundreds of hours of screen time to get to for the sweet release of the final next installment(s). Somehow I have a feeling Warners is going to capitalize on aggravating me with this series by releasing Deathly Hollows Volume 1 and Volume 2 a year apart just so I'll have to endlessly hear during this span about how invaluable these films were to the annals of cinematic history. Ugh.

I will say, though, that the snippet I saw of 1/2 Blood Prince looked great and was very well made from a technical standpoint. Harry has just proved himself to be too vanilla of a character for me to remain tuned in to what I've perceived as an unsatisfactory story arc overall that started to leave me with a feeling of indifference even before his balls dropped and he discovered chicks - around the time when it became clear that all involved participants in this fantasy universe were trapped in a narrative holding pattern. Bear in mind I'm not ripping the books since I've never read any of them and for all I know they could be masterpieces of atmospheric descriptiveness. I know this saga is beloved by many and I'm not trying to come off like the hipster in the room by saying I'll be ecstatic when this series wraps up (until Rowling goes back to the well to revive the 'chise with Harry circa his 20's)...I honestly believe at the end of the day this cinematic brand name has offered little more than perfunctory fantasy homogenization on a storytelling level.




















Because Voldemort has ordered the Death Eaters to save Harry for HIM only. Harry has escaped death so many times Voldemort now thinks he's the one that has to kill him. (That's where the prophecy from Order of the Phoenix comes into play.) In that scene Snape even stopped someone from trying to hurt Harry saying, "No, he's the Dark Lord's!".

Harry is vanilla, that's his character. He's just a random kid who's had major tragedy in his life and is slowing finding out his fate is tied to the most evil wizard in history who happened to murder his parents. He's not some super trained fighter, he's figuring it out as he goes (if you don't like it now I think you'll be super frustrated with the final two films then. There's payoff but it takes a long time to get there). It makes him more identifiable. It may not be your cup of tea but that's how I see it.

[TripleSkeet]

I saw the tail end of the latest Potter yesterday evening. Spoiler question...

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Why didn't Alan Rickman and/or Helena Bonham Carter and her masked cohorts just kill Harry after Dumbledore fell to his death? The young sorcerer kept coming after them feebly with his weak-ass spells that were no match for their level of wizardry which was clearly much more advanced. They had him dead to rights - he was on his back on the ground; forget magical powers, they could've just curb-stomped him on the spot. Since he was the chosen one who was foretold to be become better at waving his twig and reciting gibberish than those who did likewise while dabbling in the black arts, why not kill him right there to ensure that evil will triumph indefinitely for the foreseeable future? Needless to say, these are rhetorical questions because obviously the stupid kid had to live to fulfill his stupid preordained destiny that the first film mapped out, which has taken what seems like hundreds of hours of screen time to get to for the sweet release of the final next installment(s). Somehow I have a feeling Warners is going to capitalize on aggravating me with this series by releasing Deathly Hollows Volume 1 and Volume 2 a year apart just so I'll have to endlessly hear during this span about how invaluable these films were to the annals of cinematic history. Ugh.
I will say, though, that the snippet I saw of 1/2 Blood Prince looked great and was very well made from a technical standpoint. Harry has just proved himself to be too vanilla of a character for me to remain tuned in to what I've perceived as an unsatisfactory story arc overall that started to leave me with a feeling of indifference even before his balls dropped and he discovered chicks - around the time when it became clear that all involved participants in this fantasy universe were trapped in a narrative holding pattern. Bear in mind I'm not ripping the books since I've never read any of them and for all I know they could be masterpieces of atmospheric descriptiveness. I know this saga is beloved by many and I'm not trying to come off like the hipster in the room by saying I'll be ecstatic when this series wraps up (until Rowling goes back to the well to revive the 'chise with Harry circa his 20's)...I honestly believe at the end of the day this cinematic brand name has offered little more than perfunctory fantasy homogenization on a storytelling level.

The movies are already set. Volume 1 hits theaters next November. Volume 2 is Summer of 2011.

[thepaulo]

I have noticed only a few people have true knowledge.

[thepaulo]

Damm that most post wins thread.

[strawberrypop]

Joshua Herdman reveals Deathly Hallows split, plot change

Actor Joshua Herdman, who plays Goyle in the Potter films, was one of several actors from the franchise who hosted a Q&A session at the event. He revealed some particularly interesting Deathly Hallows information with fans that is worth reporting.

First, Herdman said that the current plan was to split Deathly Hallows just after the trio are captured by the Snatchers and right before they are taken to Malfoy Manor. Many fans had speculated this is where the split would be, as it will provide quite a cliffhanger between films. Please note that - while this may be the current plan - the director and producers have made it clear that they could very well change where they had been thinking of splitting it if they thought a different point worked better after filming was complete.

Second, Herdman says that his character will be the one who dies instead of Jamie Waylett's character (Crabbe). This decision was made after Waylett was arrested and convicted of cannabis possession several months ago. Waylett is not expected to return for Deathly Hallows.

[ferrywayes]

Well, Harry potter movie is not as much interesting as book, I am always mad for movie not because of its characters Emma Watson and Ronald Bilius.

[red_red_red]

harry potter....ick http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt001.gif

[thepaulo]

thank you all

[Misteriosa]

Check out this concept art. it contains a scene that wasnt in the film (im trying to keep the spoiler off the ispy)

The Harry Potter Funeral You Never Saw On Screen


Artist Adam Brockbank has posted a vast array of the concept illustrations he did for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, ranging from the Weasleys' whimsical toys to the gruesome Inferi... along with a scene that didn't make the movie.

Brockbank has made concept art for all of the Harry Potter films to date, and did the Doctor Octopus designs for Spider-Man 2 and several illustrations for X-Men, including Cerebro and Magneto's prison cell. He has just posted the concept art for the most recent Harry Potter movie, revealing his visual reimaginings of JK Rowling's ideas and Dumbledore's unfilmed funeral.

link: http://io9.com/5376909/the-harry-potter-funeral-you-never-saw-on-screen/gallery/

[Aggie]

Check out this concept art. it contains a scene that wasnt in the film (im trying to keep the spoiler off the ispy)

I loved all of those drawings!! Thanks for sharing, misti!

[OGC]

It looks like the next Harry Potter movie might have a different look (http://www.theweek.com/article/index/103918/The_Harry_Potter_sex_scene)

[thepaulo]

The HarryPotter trailer looks great and the production values so much superior to the current Twilight production.

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[realmenhatelife]

The HarryPotter trailer looks great and the production values so much superior to the current Twilight production.


It isn't a contest. This movie is going to be a gd mess. The book is a trainwreck, they've always had lots of trouble adapting them successfully, and they've split it.

[Misteriosa]

It isn't a contest. This movie is going to be a gd mess. The book is a trainwreck, they've always had lots of trouble adapting them successfully, and they've split it.

i thought that the reason that they split it (besides milking this series for every fucking drop), was that there was just too much going on for just one film. the other films had a TON of shit cut out of the books. im hoping that they wanted to get everything that happened out there.

[realmenhatelife]

i thought that the reason that they split it (besides milking this series for every fucking drop), was that there was just too much going on for just one film. the other films had a TON of shit cut out of the books. im hoping that they wanted to get everything that happened out there.

I really thought the last book was anticlimactic, and not a lot happened for how long it was. Plus, you've got stuff you cant include because it resolves stories they never started in the earlier movies. I actually imagine theyd have to show scenes that happen off "camera" in the books. But following a book really faithfully usually doesnt yeild a good movie.

No matter what you now need to hammer 3 acts into 6.

[TripleSkeet]

I really thought the last book was anticlimactic, and not a lot happened for how long it was. Plus, you've got stuff you cant include because it resolves stories they never started in the earlier movies. I actually imagine theyd have to show scenes that happen off "camera" in the books. But following a book really faithfully usually doesnt yeild a good movie.

No matter what you now need to hammer 3 acts into 6.

Wow. I thought the book was filled with action from beginning to end. And they had to either make 2 movies or a 5 hour movie to do it any kind of justice. I dont know how you could call it anti-climactic, I counted at least 2 parts they couldve ended the first half movie alone.

[CountryBob]

Wow. I thought the book was filled with action from beginning to end. And they had to either make 2 movies or a 5 hour movie to do it any kind of justice. I dont know how you could call it anti-climactic, I counted at least 2 parts they couldve ended the first half movie alone.

This! The damn book was great! Don't make me stupify you - realmenhatelife!

[realmenhatelife]

This! The damn book was great! Don't make me stupify you - realmenhatelife!

My patronis is a giant middle finger. I will reread the book, maybe I'm missing something. I was just pissed that characters I really liked were getting killed and then it getting mentioned almost as an after thought. And I felt like the horcruxs didnt pay off, and the deathly hollows maybe should've come up prior to this book. I will reread but I maintain it is impossible to pound that book into two good movies.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

My patronis is a giant middle finger. I will reread the book, maybe I'm missing something. I was just pissed that characters I really liked were getting killed and then it getting mentioned almost as an after thought. And I felt like the horcruxs didnt pay off, and the deathly hollows maybe should've come up prior to this book. I will reread but I maintain it is impossible to pound that book into two good movies.

the audio-books are amazing. jim dale does a great job narrating the story from start to finish, look those up and you won't be disappointed.

[conman823]

Wow. I thought the book was filled with action from beginning to end. And they had to either make 2 movies or a 5 hour movie to do it any kind of justice. I dont know how you could call it anti-climactic, I counted at least 2 parts they couldve ended the first half movie alone.

Agree as well.

I thought the series ended just fine. I will admit that the whole Horcrux story should have been arched from the first book. She tried to stretch it back by connecting the cloak, but still the Deathly Hallows should have been mentioned at least from POA.

I loved the action, the character deaths, everything. I respected her for not giving it a "Happy" ending when it would have been easy too.

Can't fucking wait for IMAX 3D Death Eater mayhem!!

[TripleSkeet]

My patronis is a giant middle finger.

This made me crack up. :lol:

[realmenhatelife]

At the urging of this thread I'm about half way through Deathly Hollows again, and I'm enjoying it more than the first time, although I'm still mad about some of the same things.


But what struck me is that there is a scene where Harry strips down and jumps into an ice covered pond, in the middle of winter, to retreive the sword of Godric Gryffendor, which he first tries to pick up by the blade with his "numb feet." What kind of a dense asshole are we really dealing with here?

[Misteriosa]

i went to hogwarts at universal.

it was so realistic, that i wish i could live there.

[grlNIN]

i went to hogwarts at universal.

it was so realistic, that i wish i could live there.

I am 97% sure that i would cancel my trip to Ireland to spend a month at Hogwarts Universal.

Also, JKR is a bitch for not allowing the HP series to go digital for the nook.

[TripleSkeet]

At the urging of this thread I'm about half way through Deathly Hollows again, and I'm enjoying it more than the first time, although I'm still mad about some of the same things.


But what struck me is that there is a scene where Harry strips down and jumps into an ice covered pond, in the middle of winter, to retreive the sword of Godric Gryffendor, which he first tries to pick up by the blade with his "numb feet." What kind of a dense asshole are we really dealing with here?

They actually explained that he used his feet to find exactly where the sword was so hed only have to dive once. I actually just finished reading it again today.

[realmenhatelife]

They actually explained that he used his feet to find exactly where the sword was so hed only have to dive once. I actually just finished reading it again today.

I'm just saying, unless you're some kind of monkey with exceptionally good foot dexterity, maybe its not a great idea to feel around for a poison imbued magical blade with numb, unresponsive limbs.

[CountryBob]

The idea of Horcrux's definitely had a payoff - Harry was the most important Horcrux!
He had to die (kind of) so the Horcrux inside him would be destroyed.
Gryffindor!

[realmenhatelife]

The idea of Horcrux's definitely had a payoff - Harry was the most important Horcrux!
He had to die (kind of) so the Horcrux inside him would be destroyed.
Gryffindor!

I finished this earlier in the week and I was partially wrong. You're sortof mislead by the hallows but I guess you're supposed to be, because they were a misleading thing to all the wizards who went after them. Harry resisting the temptation of the hallows is very important, but maybe not written monumentally enough. So the first time around I was just reading it too purposefully.

I still really dont like the ending of the book though, from the King's Cross chapter on. I do think a good script has a lot of potential to polish some of the rougher parts of the book, like making the climax a lot sharper. I doubt they will but I really hope they cut the epilogue completely. Splitting will still cause problems, I think the first movie is really going to suffer.

[CountryBob]

I finished this earlier in the week and I was partially wrong. You're sortof mislead by the hallows but I guess you're supposed to be, because they were a misleading thing to all the wizards who went after them. Harry resisting the temptation of the hallows is very important, but maybe not written monumentally enough. So the first time around I was just reading it too purposefully.

I still really dont like the ending of the book though, from the King's Cross chapter on. I do think a good script has a lot of potential to polish some of the rougher parts of the book, like making the climax a lot sharper. I doubt they will but I really hope they cut the epilogue completely. Splitting will still cause problems, I think the first movie is really going to suffer.

Yeah - I was also let down a little when after getting killed by Voldemort - he goes to the train station to meet Dumbledore. I was wanting a more wizardy after world and the chance of meeting his parents for real. I would have stomped the wriggling mess that was Voldermort that was lying on the floor.

[Contra]

The idea of Horcrux's definitely had a payoff - Harry was the most important Horcrux!
He had to die (kind of) so the Horcrux inside him would be destroyed.
Gryffindor!

Thanks Spoily McSpoilton, you ruined EVERYTHING!!!

[CountryBob]

Thanks Spoily McSpoilton, you ruined EVERYTHING!!!

Sorry - the book was published 3 years ago. If you dont know what happens by now - I dont know what to say to you...

[realmenhatelife]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/17992/-harry-potter-finale-split-revealed


So here's where they're going to split the movies.

The first movie ends when Voldemort takes the Elder Wand, about 2/3rds through the book. Which means the two big action sequences in part 2 will probably be really long, but also the Kings Cross chapter and the epilogue might also be included. I'm worried about this because the movies have been a little confusing, and I dont know how they're going to make Kings Cross coherent.

[thepaulo]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/17992/-harry-potter-finale-split-revealed


So here's where they're going to split the movies.

The first movie ends when Voldemort takes the Elder Wand, about 2/3rds through the book. Which means the two big action sequences in part 2 will probably be really long, but also the Kings Cross chapter and the epilogue might also be included. I'm worried about this because the movies have been a little confusing, and I dont know how they're going to make Kings Cross coherent.

Because movies are magic.

[TripleSkeet]

Thats actually a perfect spot to split it. Itll climaz with them escaping from the Malfoy house and wrap up with him finding out about the wand and Gringotts. Itll also leave enough time to do justice to the bank break in and the final fight. I cannot wait for this movie top come out.

[realmenhatelife]

Thats actually a perfect spot to split it. Itll climaz with them escaping from the Malfoy house and wrap up with him finding out about the wand and Gringotts. Itll also leave enough time to do justice to the bank break in and the final fight. I cannot wait for this movie top come out.

I think it sets the second movie up to be really solid, because it will have so much action and barely need any set up. The first one, though, is gonna be way trickier.

[Contra]

Sorry - the book was published 3 years ago. If you dont know what happens by now - I dont know what to say to you...

I haven't read any of the books, just a fan of the movies. Not everyone has read them and watched the films, just to let you know.

[Crispy123]

harry Potter is a good movie. The harry Potter movie is based on the seven Harry Potter novels. The novels author is J.K Rowling. I saw Harry Potter movie last week. I like the special effects of Harry Potter movie. Some of the outside shots of the castle are absolutely brilliant. I also like the performances of actors.

I too like the performances of actors.

[CountryBob]

I have not watched the movie, but really want to see! But friends say read the book, but I do not want to read! What do you think?
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I dont think that you have to read the books to enjoy the movies but I would recommend to start at the first movie and work your way up. If you tried to jump into the most recent movie - it would be hard to understand what the previous 5 were working toward...

[Furtherman]

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[grlNIN]

:glurps:

[TripleSkeet]

Words cannot express how much I am anticipating this movie.

[Misteriosa]

this is gonna be so fucking epic.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

looks to be an amazing end. just the wedding scene where lupin shoves him away as he hugs him is chilling. when they are on the run where ron is telling him his family is dead this kid better get more work after this can't wait.

[Misteriosa]

looks to be an amazing end. just the wedding scene where lupin shoves him away as he hugs him is chilling. when they are on the run where ron is telling him his family is dead this kid better get more work after this can't wait.

harry wasnt hugging lupin he was running to help. if i remember correctly, there was an attack at fleur and bill's wedding. that screen shot was during the attack if i saw that right.(i'll watch it again)

but this trailer shows quite the change and progression in the story line from those cute 11 year olds so many years ago...

http://hollywoodjesus.com/movie/harry_potter_chamber/29.jpeg

[MIKEYDAKEN]

harry wasnt hugging lupin he was running to help. if i remember correctly, there was an attack at fleur and bill's wedding. that screen shot was during the attack if i saw that right.(i'll watch it again)

but this trailer shows quite the change and progression in the story line from those cute 11 year olds so many years ago...

http://hollywoodjesus.com/movie/harry_potter_chamber/29.jpeg

hugging helping still a good scene showing how much these people love him and yeah that was the wedding god i hope the rerelease this when the 2nd half comes out.

[OGC]

It looks like our little Hermione has grown up nicely.

http://i.imgur.com/TL2N5.jpg

[Willmore]

It looks like our little Hermione has grown up nicely.

http://i.imgur.com/TL2N5.jpg

If you're into twinks.

I kid.

She does look nice.

[Misteriosa]

Wizards Compete in Quidditch Cup

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-518781?hpt=C2

[Willmore]

Wizards Compete in Quidditch Cup

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-518781?hpt=C2

http://www.internationalquidditch.org/

When those camp-out-before-release kids grow up, it ain't pretty to look at. A lost generation indeed.

[Misteriosa]

squee!!! "the boy who lived" is a smart one :happy:

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[Furtherman]

That's bloody impressive.

[CountryBob]

If you're into twinks.

I kid.

She does look nice.

Not many chicks can pull off the short do - but she does it nicely! If I was a young buck going to Brown I would try my damnest to get in those panties! Griffendor!

[thepaulo]

The movie is weird....and Hermonie is kinda naked.

[Willmore]

squee!!! "the boy who lived" is a smart one :happy:

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Misti, even though he's 21 now, that's still creepy.


Not many chicks can pull off the short do - but she does it nicely! If I was a young buck going to Brown I would try my damnest to get in those panties! Griffendor!

She's 20 already, go for it.



PS: I'm aware of the double standard, blame society.

[Misteriosa]

:down:

[Gutter]

i watched the half blood prince yesterday cause i called in sick and it was on HBO. they should've cut about an hour out of that movie. it took so friggin long for anything to happen and i nearly threw something at the tv watching Malfoy pull that stupid drape off of the vanishing cabinet. did we really need to see him do that every time he went to test it out? couple of annoying plot points in that, but to be honest, the trailers for the deathly hallows looks kinda cool, even tho i've never read the books and know how it ends kind of.

[CountryBob]

Yeah - the action should be on an all time high in the last 2 movies. Spoiler alert - Hermione has a three way with ROn and Harry!

[Gutter]

Yeah - the action should be on an all time high in the last 2 movies. Spoiler alert - Hermione has a three way with ROn and Harry!

i like how the movie is called "the half blood prince" but somewhere in the middle of the movie, figuring out who that is gets completely forgotten about until Prof. Snape is just like, "oh yea, thats me fucker....my notes are kick ass".

[CountryBob]

i like how the movie is called "the half blood prince" but somewhere in the middle of the movie, figuring out who that is gets completely forgotten about until Prof. Snape is just like, "oh yea, thats me fucker....my notes are kick ass".

The book kept the focus on who the half blood prince was all the way through. Stupid movies - lose so much intensity

[Misteriosa]

i would have put that beat up old text book in gringots so damned fast. that shit is valuable as all hell. you could make a killing off those successful potions.

[realmenhatelife]

Did they give any kind of explination why Snape lost track of the book full of not only his professional secrets, but his embarassing secret identity? It was in the same room he worked in for years.


Also, Hogwarts hasn't changed out its text books for like 30ish years. Thats some Joe Clark public school shit right there.

[Misteriosa]

Did they give any kind of explination why Snape lost track of the book full of not only his professional secrets, but his embarassing secret identity? It was in the same room he worked in for years.


Also, Hogwarts hasn't changed out its text books for like 30ish years. Thats some Joe Clark public school shit right there.

as far as the 30 year textbook, that was not uncommon for me when i went to inner city public schools. also i dont think there were huge leaps made in school level potion making :o

now the book doesnt explain why, but as far as hogwarts goes, all students buy their own textbooks anyway (whether by your own pocket or scholarship) :o harry wasnt supposed to be in potions class becuase he didnt make the grade under Snapes rules. Since he made it in under slughorn's standards and this new prof was teaching potions, snape didnt have direct access to the books anymore and thats why harry got a used copy.

maybe snape forgot about it being there, and wasnt he a charity student. i remember his family being poor as hell, maybe a little worse than the weasleys were. maybe he had to give it back

[Gutter]

Did they give any kind of explination why Snape lost track of the book full of not only his professional secrets, but his embarassing secret identity? It was in the same room he worked in for years.


Also, Hogwarts hasn't changed out its text books for like 30ish years. Thats some Joe Clark public school shit right there.

i don't hafta do nuthin but stay black and DIE!!!!!

[Misteriosa]

i take that last line back.

snape *did* keep the copy. remember that there were only 2 books in the cabinet and ron and harry fought over the new one. like i said before, all the students buy their own books. maybe snape didnt expect anyone to borrow any books and hid his old copy in plain sight.

[CountryBob]

Yeah and remember, Snape was a kid himself. He wouldnt have give a shit about his textbooks after finishing that class..

[realmenhatelife]

i don't hafta do nuthin but stay black and DIE!!!!!

Mr. Clark some kids are beatin up Kid Ray!


You smoke crack dontcha? You smoke crack dontcha! Boy, dont you smoke crack?!

[Gutter]

Mr. Clark some kids are beatin up Kid Ray!


You smoke crack dontcha? You smoke crack dontcha! Boy, dont you smoke crack?!

God damnit Samms!!!!

[realmenhatelife]

I was totally wrong, they did a really good job at adapting it and having it make sense. They cut out a lot of the dragging too. I'd say its the best Potter movie so far.

[teddybear22]

i love harry potter :) (http://stevzjsygr.livejournal.com) ive read the books :) (http://pete7hxwha.insanejournal.com) saw the movies! the 7 part1 is just good as the others well of course they cant put the whole book into the movie but still it was, is, a good movie

[OGC]

Since this isn't an actual nip slip I guess it's safe to post it here. If there is a problem let me know

http://i.imgur.com/o7TXg.jpg

[thepaulo]

Who has the biggest wand?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EC2tmFVNNE

[thepaulo]

Pottermore means there will be more Harry Potter.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/16/harry-potter-jk-rowling-pottermore

[Judge Smails]

Pottermore means there will be more Harry Potter.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/16/harry-potter-jk-rowling-pottermore

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The next book to be called:

Harry Potter and the Flogging of the Cadaverous Equine

[thepaulo]

The battle to end all battles begins this week.

[Misteriosa]

and it will be GLORIOUS!

[CountryBob]

Yes it will be - I am looking forward to Sunday when I can make the late showing. I hear that they have made some big changes from the book for the ending....:down:

[Misteriosa]

Yes it will be - I am looking forward to Sunday when I can make the late showing. I hear that they have made some big changes from the book for the ending....:down:

oh no.. dont say that.. im supposed to see it this fri nite.. now you have me worried.

[realmenhatelife]

Yes it will be - I am looking forward to Sunday when I can make the late showing. I hear that they have made some big changes from the book for the ending....:down:

oh no.. dont say that.. im supposed to see it this fri nite.. now you have me worried.

My guess is it's the chapter at the end with the white room, I forget exactly what its called. I just dont think they can put it out and make a ton of sense.


Although I was thinking how they have a lot of, shall we say 'conclusions', that will be packed into a very short time frame, so maybe they changed some of the more incidental ones to not screw up the pacing of the moving.

[CountryBob]

My guess is it's the chapter at the end with the white room, I forget exactly what its called. I just dont think they can put it out and make a ton of sense.


Although I was thinking how they have a lot of, shall we say 'conclusions', that will be packed into a very short time frame, so maybe they changed some of the more incidental ones to not screw up the pacing of the moving.

The time when Harry kinda dies and talks with Dumbledore - and then comes back? They better have this moment in the movie! I was maybe thinking the flash forward for when they are putting their kids on the train to Hogwarts or something like that.

[CountryBob]

One of my favorite OandA moments was the audio that they played from someone yelling at the crowd that was lined up at the bookstore to get the just released copy of the Half Blood Prince. Some dude yells "Snape kills Dumbledore, Snape kills Dumbledore" and you hear the crowd go "ahhhhhh" - in a deflated way.... :laugh:

[realmenhatelife]

The time when Harry kinda dies and talks with Dumbledore - and then comes back? They better have this moment in the movie! I was maybe thinking the flash forward for when they are putting their kids on the train to Hogwarts or something like that.

Yeah, I think there will be a dumbledore scene but I think it will be a challenge to do it exactly how they do it in the books, it's a big drop off in pace and it comes right in the middle of a huge battle. My other guess is all the deaths that happen might get cut out or atleast changed. You're going to find out about a bunch of people dying in like a 45 minute stretch, it's going to be a bit much. I wouldn't be at all upset if they changed some of the deaths, I think she straight up kills Tonks and Lupin just to avoid writing a conclusion for their arc and a big fight with Fenrir Greyback.

[CountryBob]

Yeah, I think there will be a dumbledore scene but I think it will be a challenge to do it exactly how they do it in the books, it's a big drop off in pace and it comes right in the middle of a huge battle. My other guess is all the deaths that happen might get cut out or atleast changed. You're going to find out about a bunch of people dying in like a 45 minute stretch, it's going to be a bit much. I wouldn't be at all upset if they changed some of the deaths, I think she straight up kills Tonks and Lupin just to avoid writing a conclusion for their arc and a big fight with Fenrir Greyback.

Yeah I see your point - I also think that she killed Tonks and Lupin to mimic the way Harry grew up without a mother and father - for little Teddy. dont know why really just figured that too.

[thepaulo]

The end of the most successful movie franchise.

[thepaulo]

spoiler........


they all play with each others wands.