Banning Cupcakes???

[buzzard]

When I was a kid,that was one way to celebrate yer Birthday at school as well as make some new friends..having yer Mom make cupecakes for the whole class,sure you'd wait til the last minute to ask her(the night before)...and she'd DO IT!..now the movement has begun to ban said practice so as to illiminate fatty-pig-fatty foods at school!...Is this necessary? I think it's going too far...and you?

[JPMNICK]

When I was a kid,that was one way to celebrate yer Birthday at school as well as make some new friends..having yer Mom make cupecakes for the whole class,sure you'd wait til the last minute to ask her(the night before)...and she'd DO IT!..now the movement has begun to ban said practice so as to illiminate fatty-pig-fatty foods at school!...Is this necessary? I think it's going too far...and you?

well i guess if there are 25 kids in the class, that is 25 days of cupcakes which i guess can be considered a lot.

but at the same time I think teaching kids that they can have a cupcake or some desert as long as the rest of the food they eat is healthy and balanced, and they exercise in gym and at lunch. and it would help if they do not have a teacher than is 300 pounds

[Furtherman]

Yea, that's silly. It's not like they're having cupcakes everyday, and surely not every parent made cupcakes (I know mine sure didn't!).

What I wish we could ban is having birthdays celebrated at work. Leave it for kindergarten and grade school... please? I don't want a piece of stupid cake and waste my time small talking in a conference room. They happen after lunch, usually around 4, and I'm trying to get my work done so I can leave on time.

[drjoek]

God Damn Politcal Correctness gone wild AGAIN.:furious:

The kids are not fat they are weight challenged :wallbash:

[buzzard]

Yea, that's silly. It's not like they're having cupcakes everyday, and surely not every parent made cupcakes (I know mine sure didn't!).

What I wish we could ban is having birthdays celebrated at work. Leave it for kindergarten and grade school... please? I don't want a piece of stupid cake and waste my time small talking in a conference room. They happen after lunch, usually around 4, and I'm trying to get my work done so I can leave on time.

My wife says the same thing,kinna like that Seinfeld episode...happy this,happy that!..a lil off-topic...oddly enough in the last 10 minutes,buzzette just informed me that we've both just been invited to her bosses wedding & reception; I'm game she however,doesn't really like to socialize with her co-workers or see them intoxicated.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

wifey allows kids in her class to bring in Cupcakes or Pizza, only if I get my Cut

Seriously I wouldnt be surprised if people were Bitching to stop this, there are middle age to old people who hate EVERYTHING and will try to stop anything remotely fun. it just sucks that people like us are giving into them.

:king:

[Tall_James]

As a parent with kids in school I have experienced this firsthand. However, the "weight issue" is not the reason why my kids and most kids around the country don't have cupcakes on birthdays. Peanut, tree nut, wheat, egg and a hundred types of other allergies are epidemic in kids these days. How this happened, I have no idea, but it is what it is. If you go to any elementary school in the US nowadays, I'd venture to say that at least one kid per class is affected by food allergies that are potentially life threatening.

Thank God my kids don't have these allergies but kids we hang out with do. You make small changes to accomodate (i.e. Soynut Butter or Sun Flower Seed Butter as a substitute for peanut butter). It isn't that tough, hell - you put enough Fluff or Grape jelly on a sammich and you can't tell the difference.

You're probably right about some segments of the population (i.e. those asshole parents that everyone knows) doing this for the weight thing (smart move in giving those kids self image issues early in life you PC douchebags) - but I think it all boils down to the allergy issue.

BTW - these type of people were described perfectly in a Boston Globe article the other day...

"The Perfect Parent Tribe will have your kids over just the once. The children will design and play a noncompetitive game together. They will eat flax. Sadly, your children will ask for a Coke and start a burping contest. These parents will never send their children to your house because it is dangerous. This means you own sports equipment and a bag of peanuts. Oh, and a TV. Years from now, their kids will be the first ones to try pot. You will smile, just a little."

[buzzard]

As a parent with kids in school I have experienced this firsthand. However, the "weight issue" is not the reason why my kids and most kids around the country don't have cupcakes on birthdays. Peanut, tree nut, wheat, egg and a hundred types of other allergies are epidemic in kids these days. How this happened, I have no idea, but it is what it is. If you go to any elementary school in the US nowadays, I'd venture to say that at least one kid per class is affected by food allergies that are potentially life threatening.

Thank God my kids don't have these allergies but kids we hang out with do. You make small changes to accomodate (i.e. Soynut Butter or Sun Flower Seed Butter as a substitute for peanut butter). It isn't that tough, hell - you put enough Fluff or Grape jelly on a sammich and you can't tell the difference.

You're probably right about some segments of the population (i.e. those asshole parents that everyone knows) doing this for the weight thing (smart move in giving those kids self image issues early in life you PC douchebags) - but I think it all boils down to the allergy issue.

BTW - these type of people were described perfectly in a Boston Globe article the other day...

"The Perfect Parent Tribe will have your kids over just the once. The children will design and play a noncompetitive game together. They will eat flax. Sadly, your children will ask for a Coke and start a burping contest. These parents will never send their children to your house because it is dangerous. This means you own sports equipment and a bag of peanuts. Oh, and a TV. Years from now, their kids will be the first ones to try pot. You will smile, just a little."


remember how loose the preacher's daughter was? :laugh: thanx for the Tall thoughts James...your points are valid.I'm the youngest of seven and we never had those allergy issues either.

[Furtherman]

As a parent with kids in school I have experienced this firsthand. However, the "weight issue" is not the reason why my kids and most kids around the country don't have cupcakes on birthdays. Peanut, tree nut, wheat, egg and a hundred types of other allergies are epidemic in kids these days. How this happened, I have no idea, but it is what it is. If you go to any elementary school in the US nowadays, I'd venture to say that at least one kid per class is affected by food allergies that are potentially life threatening.

That's a good point... and something dangerous in our food or water or environment that is causing this epidemic. I'm in my 30's and I don't recall ONE kid in grade school with an peanut allergy or even asthma... both which are everywhere it seems these days.

[Hottub]

Cupcake may be a dick, but I don't know about banning!


Seriosly, it is rather silly. 1 cupcake once in a while? My kids go to a nut-free school (not all girls) I think 1 kid in the school has a peanut allergy, so Nobody enjoys peanut goodness now.

[drjoek]

I am in the medical field,well peripherally as an Orthodontist BUT All these food allergies are a load of crap. I recognize that yes there are children with peanut allergies and in those cases it is a lifethreatening thing. But the actual incidence of such is minutuely small. There are more kids coming in with "allergies" to so many damn things 99.99999999999% are total BULLSHIT.If a kid doesn't like something it becomes an allergy it seems.Now kids cant bring peanut butter to school. I venture to guess many on this board of a certain age had peanut and butter sandwiches 5 days a week for there entire life and not one kid had an "allergy" back then I know I did We as a society have coddled kids to the point where they are all basket cases.:wallbash::wallbash:

[Fezticle98]

This country needs the proverbial kick in the cunt.

[drjoek]

Cupcake may be a dick, but I don't know about banning!


Seriosly, it is rather silly. 1 cupcake once in a while? My kids go to a nut-free school (not all girls) I think 1 kid in the school has a peanut allergy, so Nobody enjoys peanut goodness now.

Good point I want to get cupcakelovers take on this one

[Tall_James]

I'm linking the Boston Globe article for the parents on the board. Enjoy. (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/09/14/braving_back_to_school_night/?p1=email_to_a_friend)

[buzzard]

Cupcake may be a dick, but I don't know about banning!


Seriosly, it is rather silly. 1 cupcake once in a while? My kids go to a nut-free school (not all girls) I think 1 kid in the school has a peanut allergy, so Nobody enjoys peanut goodness now.

I was expecting something like that however, NOT from you Tub..:laugh: I thought all you pedophile types stuck up for each other? however, I digress...Seriosly I think all you guys are correct about the "allergy epidemic" when we were kids we just said we didn't like something....then my old man made us eat it anyway..now they feign allergies,maybe they are smarter today than I was..or am for that matter?

[JustJon]

My nephew started Kindergarten last week, and he told his mom that he wanted a peanut butter sandwich on his first day of school. The teachers had to move him away from the class and had to eat separately from alot of the other kids. He now takes turkey sandwiches.

I think all these issues are ridiculous. Although I hadn't heard of the cupcake ban, I have heard of schools saying you cannot cook for the class but must only supply prepackaged foods (which of course are far worse for your kids)

[thejives]

Everyone probably knows this already, but this was a show subject. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=2489)

I taught school for a while. I think my general feeling is meh who cares.

There are so many more important things to worry about in a classroom.

In fact, the more you read about education nowadays (no recesses, no playground equipment, no music, no sports, no qualified administrators or interested parents ...) the more there is to be pissed off about. Don't waste your time being pissed about cupcakes.

Make a big batch when they come home and if you want to be outraged call your congressmen and ask for full pre-k funding or something.

[Doogie]

I think it is time to go black panther style and take out the politically correct people in one night of attacks.

[Furtherman]

Make a big batch when they come home

Eww

[thejives]

Eww

no. cupcakes.

for that batch you wait until they go to school again. Or at least in the other room.

[spadanko]

my wife is a teacher and the kids are basically not allowed sweets at all. when they have birthday parties they have popcorn, or pretzels. gone are the days of cupcakes and pizza parties. and if you go against it, they basically threaten to take away state funding for lunches... its crazy

[mikeyboy]

Last year, for my daughter's birthday, my wife made these ice cream cone cupcakes for my daughter to take into her class. You take those cones with the flat bottoms (yes, I know -- not technically "cones") and line them up on a pan. Then you fill them 2/3 full with cake batter, bake, frost and add sprinkles. I have nothing to offer to the discussion at hand other than to say that they're really good.

[JPMNICK]

my wife is a teacher and the kids are basically not allowed sweets at all. when they have birthday parties they have popcorn, or pretzels. gone are the days of cupcakes and pizza parties. and if you go against it, they basically threaten to take away state funding for lunches... its crazy

i wonder if it has to do with the company who provides lunch to the students flexing some muscle. i am sure they have noticed in class parties = less money that day at lunch.

[thejives]

Last year, for my daughter's birthday, my wife made these ice cream cone cupcakes for my daughter to take into her class. You take those cones with the flat bottoms (yes, I know -- not technically "cones") and line them up on a pan. Then you fill them 2/3 full with cake batter, bake, frost and add sprinkles. I have nothing to offer to the discussion at hand other than to say that they're really good.

So why aren't sugar cones cones?
I would feel completely comfortable calling them cones.
It's a cultural thing not a geometry thing.

[Tall_James]

Last year, for my daughter's birthday, my wife made these ice cream cone cupcakes for my daughter to take into her class. You take those cones with the flat bottoms (yes, I know -- not technically "cones") and line them up on a pan. Then you fill them 2/3 full with cake batter, bake, frost and add sprinkles. I have nothing to offer to the discussion at hand other than to say that they're really good.

Child endangerer.

[Hottub]

When my kids were babies, we had a scientific approach to food allergy testing.

Hey, here's a peanut butter sandwich. Enjoy. I'll just wait over here and see what happens.

I'm cooking up some clams tonight. Want some?

Mom just got a beautiful quart of strawberries from the market. Try some.

[Tall_James]

When my kids were babies, we had a scientific approach to food allergy testing.

Hey, here's a peanut butter sandwich. Enjoy. I'll just wait over here and see what happens.

I'm cooking up some clams tonight. Want some?

Mom just got a beautiful quart of strawberries from the market. Try some.

We did the same thing. Its fun to have your own little test subject in the house.

"Honey...dial 9-1- and wait until I give him the strawberries and clams before you hit the other 1."

[JPMNICK]

We did the same thing. Its fun to have your own little test subject in the house.

"Honey...dial 9-1- and wait until I give him the strawberries and clams before you hit the other 1."

HAHHA

i guess that is what most parents must have always done. now all the sudden they make a huge deal about this stuff.

are all of these kids allergies deathly, or something stupid that they just break out in a rash

[buzzard]

When my kids were babies, we had a scientific approach to food allergy testing.

Hey, here's a peanut butter sandwich. Enjoy. I'll just wait over here and see what happens.

I'm cooking up some clams tonight. Want some?

Mom just got a beautiful quart of strawberries from the market. Try some.

bullseye!...I still remember that "wait for it" look on my Mom's face! QFT

[buzzard]

We did the same thing. Its fun to have your own little test subject in the house.

"Honey...dial 9-1- and wait until I give him the strawberries and clams before you hit the other 1."

now,If you could just explain my Dad having sleepovers in my sisters' room or my Mom looking in our butts with a flashlight?:dry:

[lleeder]

My mom couldn't cook so I say ban away.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

My mom couldn't cook so I say ban away.


selfish prick

nothing better than a free cupcake when u are stuck with buying lunch

my mom didnt cook either

:king:

[JPMNICK]

my mom could cook her ass off, and i always hate eating homemade shit from peoples houses that I do not know. i feel like they are always filthy

[zentraed]

A theory's been going around for a few years now linking the allergy epidemic to our excessive cleanliness.

Scientists say under the "Hygiene Hypothesis," our bodies do not need to fight off germs as much as in the past thanks to antibiotics and anti-bacterial soaps. As a result, they believe children's immune systems are developing more allergic tendencies rather than fighting infection.

I have an awful habit of constantly chewing on my fingers, and I must say I'm the least sickly person that I know.

I remember hearing some horror stories about the nut allergies though. Like if a kid's at the same table as a PB&J, he goes into anaphylactic shock. When I was a kid, we had our cupcakes, the occasional epileptic seizures, and some kid with diabetes.

[Hottub]

my mom could cook her ass off, and i always hate eating homemade shit from peoples houses that I do not know. i feel like they are always filthy


You did OK for yourself at my house, Fat ass!!!

[lleeder]

selfish prick

nothing better than a free cupcake when u are stuck with buying lunch

my mom didnt cook either

:king:

Yet we both found a way...both found a way

[Fallon]

My nephews birthday is tomorrow. My sister made cupcakes for his class, I have one right hear. Looks good.

[JPMNICK]

My nephews birthday is tomorrow. My sister made cupcakes for his class, I have one right hear. Looks good.

you should taste each one to make sure they are all OK for the kiddies

[Fallon]

you should taste each one to make sure they are all OK for the kiddies

Maybe I'll just put some peanut butter in all of them.

[JPMNICK]

Maybe I'll just put some peanut butter in all of them.


throw some grass clippings on there and pet hair to cover all bases

[thejives]

For some reason, cupcakes seem worthless to me in general.

I'd much rather have a giant muffin (top and bottom).

Why don't you make blueberry muffins ... or even better lemon poppy seed muffins. Mmmm.

[eeroomnhoj]

My nephew started Kindergarten last week, and he told his mom that he wanted a peanut butter sandwich on his first day of school. The teachers had to move him away from the class and had to eat separately from alot of the other kids. He now takes turkey sandwiches.

I think all these issues are ridiculous. Although I hadn't heard of the cupcake ban, I have heard of schools saying you cannot cook for the class but must only supply prepackaged foods (which of course are far worse for your kids)

I realize it sounds ridiculous and I agreed until one of my daughter's friends almost died from peanuts. Anaphalactic seizures are not fun.

[FUNKMAN]

2 boxes for 5 bucks when there's a sale

http://students.english.ilstu.edu//hebundy/topfive/images2/zingers.jpg

[Bulldogcakes]

Peanut, tree nut, wheat, egg and a hundred types of other allergies are epidemic in kids these days. How this happened, I have no idea, but it is what it is. If you go to any elementary school in the US nowadays, I'd venture to say that at least one kid per class is affected by food allergies that are potentially life threatening.

Thank God my kids don't have these allergies but kids we hang out with do. You make small changes to accomodate (i.e. Soynut Butter or Sun Flower Seed Butter as a substitute for peanut butter). It isn't that tough, hell - you put enough Fluff or Grape jelly on a sammich and you can't tell the difference.

I really doubt the human species has changed so much in the past 10 years that what you're saying is true. A more likely explanation is the school's lawyers fear lawsuits (no matter how unfounded) and its just easier to just ban the cupcakes altogether.

Score yet another one to the trial lawyers lobby, and we all lose as a result. As usual.

[Tall_James]

I really doubt the human species has changed so much in the past 10 years that what you're saying is true. A more likely explanation is the school's lawyers fear lawsuits (no matter how unfounded) and its just easier to just ban the cupcakes altogether.


Sorry, but I have to disagree. Anaphylactic shock is something that the parents of kids allergic to these things have experienced. Trust me, as ridiculous as these allergies may seem, seeing a 3 year old unable to breathe because their throat closes is enough to throw the fear of God into anyone.

I don't know why these fucking allergies are prevalant nowadays. But it is what it is.

[mikeyboy]

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Anaphylactic shock is something that the parents of kids allergic to these things have experienced. Trust me, as ridiculous as these allergies may seem, seeing a 3 year old unable to breathe because their throat closes is enough to throw the fear of God into anyone.

I don't know why these fucking allergies are prevalant nowadays. But it is what it is.

I concur. There have been kids in my daughter's classes with some very serious and very dangerous allergies.

[WhistlePig]

A theory's been going around for a few years now linking the allergy epidemic to our excessive cleanliness.
I have an awful habit of constantly chewing on my fingers, and I must say I'm the least sickly person that I know.

I think there is something to that theory, so that's why I let my kid pick a cheerio off my kitchen floor and eat it, and sit in the grocery store cart without (gasp) one of those seat cover things. She's over a year old and hasn't been sick yet and no foods seem to bother her.

Now as far as the cupcakes, when my kid is school age I won't be making cupcakes for her to take to class because I'm afraid of getting sued if some kid is allergic to them. Especially if I make my famous chocolate cupcakes with the surprise peanut butter center.

http://peabodypics.bingodisk.com/public/pics/cc/PBFCC4

[Tall_James]

I think there is something to that theory, so that's why I let my kid pick a cheerio off my kitchen floor and eat it, and sit in the grocery store cart without (gasp) one of those seat cover things. She's over a year old and hasn't been sick yet and no foods seem to bother her.

Initially I thought my wife was nuts for not letting me use those anti-bacterial hand lotions on the kids but in retrospect I think she was right. Kids need to be exposed to those bacteria in order to build up an immunity to them. That's what we did back in the day. Perhaps the whole anti-bacterial product suite may be a contributing factor to kids having such allergy issues.

Especially if I make my famous chocolate cupcakes with the surprise peanut butter center.

http://peabodypics.bingodisk.com/public/pics/cc/PBFCC4

PLEASE PM ME WITH THE RECIPE !!!!

[mdr55]

http://peabodypics.bingodisk.com/public/pics/cc/PBFCC4

Dang. Can you mail me some??

[Bulldogcakes]

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Anaphylactic shock is something that the parents of kids allergic to these things have experienced. Trust me, as ridiculous as these allergies may seem, seeing a 3 year old unable to breathe because their throat closes is enough to throw the fear of God into anyone.

I don't know why these fucking allergies are prevalant nowadays. But it is what it is.

I concur. There have been kids in my daughter's classes with some very serious and very dangerous allergies.

Ugh. I don't know how far you want to go into this in a cupcake thread, but I'll guess neither of you guys read last Sunday's NY Times article by Gary Taubes (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/magazine/16epidemiology-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=login)"Do We Really Know What Makes Us Healthy?". Long story short, epidemiological studies are notoriously unreliable, which is why many of these health scares come and go. Many Doctors today even think measuring total cholesterol is a waste of time.

Here's an interview with the author (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2007/09/17). Much quicker, only about 20 minutes. Ignore that dope Steve from Brooklyn who called in, he flubbed his line and made no sense at all.

BTW-I'm not trying to downplay real cases of kids with food allergies, I'm just still doubtful that its growing rapidly. Sounds like urban legend to me. If you know of any reliable data to verify that, please link it.

[Bellyfullasnot]

A lot of the homemade bans are because of the liability from kids with various allergies. My son has an airborne peanut allergy. (I know there's a flying peanut joke coming) Most people don't realize how much stuff has peanuts or may have been manufactured on machinery near nuts. There are kids with egg or milk allergies also. Picture that homemade cupcake taking out a 4 yr old.
The kids with the known allergies are prepared. A kid that tries something for the first time could be a problem.

[Bellyfullasnot]

When my kids were babies, we had a scientific approach to food allergy testing.

Hey, here's a peanut butter sandwich. Enjoy. I'll just wait over here and see what happens.

I'm cooking up some clams tonight. Want some?

Mom just got a beautiful quart of strawberries from the market. Try some.

We started this with my oldest and it worked out great. Three years later #2 snot tot gets his first ambulance ride from a grocery store. Picture a 4 yr olds back with multiple needle pricks from a pediatric allergist. "Daddy the Dr. hurt me"
Now picture taking your kids to there first Met game and wondering which way the wind is blowing and scanning the crowd for peanuts. My wife and I are old school parents, but the allergies are serious shit.

[Kris10]

My daughter's bday was on the 18th and I made her cupcakes to bring to her daycare class. I'm a bad mom. :banning:

Edited to say we are given a list of the allergies in the class so I was safe!

[Judge Smails]

I got a talking to from my daughter's first grade teacher the other day. It was my day to take her to and from school and I had no idea what to give her for a snack, so I grabbed a package of Grips. They're little tiny chocolate chip cookies. When I went to pick her up, the teacher tells me that she already told my wife that she can't bring in Grips. Seems that even though there is no peanut butter in them the wrapper says that they were made at a factory that may have contained peanut butter at some point. I appologized and said I didn't realize there was an issue. But then when we got in the car my daughter was all upset like she had done something wrong and that the teacher was mad at her for bringing in the Grips again.

I sympathize with people who have kids with alergies but why do we need to punish other kids? So, my kid can't have her favorite snack because another kid can't have it? I'm not being callous but isn't this the same argument that we have about censorship. I don't allow my kids to watch certain programs but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be able to watch adult programs because someone else is afraid their kids are going to tune in. If you have kids then YOU have a resposibilty to keep them safe. I'll take care of my kids, you take care of yours.

I'm a big fan of South Park, but in no way think kids should be watching it. There are kids in my son's class whose idiot parents let them watch, because its a cartoon afterall, and the kids come in and tell my son all about it. What am I supposed to do about that? I don't have any time to figure this one out. I'm too busy reading food wrappers for foodstuffs that other people's kids are allergic to.

End of rant.

[Snacks]

I got a talking to from my daughter's first grade teacher the other day. It was my day to take her to and from school and I had no idea what to give her for a snack, so I grabbed a package of Grips. They're little tiny chocolate chip cookies. When I went to pick her up, the teacher tells me that she already told my wife that she can't bring in Grips. Seems that even though there is no peanut butter in them the wrapper says that they were made at a factory that may have contained peanut butter at some point. I appologized and said I didn't realize there was an issue. But then when we got in the car my daughter was all upset like she had done something wrong and that the teacher was mad at her for bringing in the Grips again.

I sympathize with people who have kids with alergies but why do we need to punish other kids? So, my kid can't have her favorite snack because another kid can't have it? I'm not being callous but isn't this the same argument that we have about censorship. I don't allow my kids to watch certain programs but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be able to watch adult programs because someone else is afraid their kids are going to tune in. If you have kids then YOU have a resposibilty to keep them safe. I'll take care of my kids, you take care of yours.

I'm a big fan of South Park, but in no way think kids should be watching it. There are kids in my son's class whose idiot parents let them watch, because its a cartoon afterall, and the kids come in and tell my son all about it. What am I supposed to do about that? I don't have any time to figure this one out. I'm too busy reading food wrappers for foodstuffs that other people's kids are allergic to.

End of rant.

Its not because other kids cant have it, and they may be jelous or whatever. Its because if a kid eats one by accident or if the wrapper touches their food or that child they could become deathly sick. I agree with you on all of this and think that alergies are getting way out of control and over protected. My nephew is allergic to a lot of things. Well they just added dogs to the lsit. I dont understand what being around a dog will do to him because he had a dog for 2 years and when ever he came to visit my mother she had 2 dog and nothing happened to him. Now that the DR's said hes allergic to dogs they try to keep him away from all dogs. I think when people hear that their child is allergic they get crazed.