R&F XM Listening Thread for 3/13/08

[joethebartender]

WABC...I said it.

[lobofanina]

Hey Earl...


What about black cops?

"Black police showing out for the white cop"

Thanks for ruining end of the show today Blowhard.

[jauble]

"Hey, I'm still here"
"hello"

great way to end the show.

made me laugh too

[jauble]

perhaps a unity party is in order?

Have a good day folks...please vote in my dinner poll.

[nate1000]

Seeyuh, everybudday.

Later, Pixie :wink:

[hexy68]

blowhard might not call in anymore!...i'm sure Pixie's upset :laugh:

[ralphbxny]

Blowhard, you're racist. Accept it.

You know I think Blowhard is just like most of the oldtimers in the "Old Neighborhoods". They blame Minorities in general for issues and not look at the otherside. They forget that Cops treated everyone like shit till recently. They Forget they were just as shitty as other groups. Sensitivity training Franklin talked about didnt happen till recently. Neither did people thinking we need to invest in Minority hoods to make them better.

It all goes into the fact that Cops are seen as the man and no young minority kid wants to be down with the man.

This is always a shitty topic and it took the show off the rails.

C-YA and may tomorrows show stay on the Funny track!

[Hottub]

I have been stopped for fitting a description. I dont like the cops for other reasons.

Little white guy?

[ralphbxny]

Little white guy?

Funny I got stopped a couple times cause they said a white guy ....Till they hear my christian name and they say not him.

Plus Mikey and Me have to put up with all this shit from the Man!

[hexy68]

cya :bye:

[AlabamaMan]

some one feels GUILTY......... grow up people, you are responsible for yourself

[AlabamaMan]

and jauble, where did you get such a great idea????:huh:

[IamPixie]

You know, I never liked blowhard. And I always bit my tongue cause he's been a supporter of the show for a long time. He's been tap dancing around his true feelings toward black people for awhile but his call today really showed us all the person he is. I give Nothingsound more credit than this guy because at least doesn't hide his hatred towards minorities under some bullshit guise.

[AlabamaMan]

You know, I never liked blowhard. And I always bit my tongue cause he's been a supporter of the show for a long time. He's been tap dancing around his true feelings toward black people for awhile but his call today really showed us all the person he is. I give Nothingsound more credit than this guy because at least doesn't hide his hatred towards minorities under some bullshit guise.

Calm down, just live your life. Its not always about you

[IamPixie]

Calm down, just live your life. Its not always about you

What are you talking about?

[mikeyboy]

Calm down, just live your life. Its not always about you

what the fuck is that? She's expressing an opinion, which is her right. There's no reason for this condescending, and frankly insulting, attitude.

[IamPixie]

what the fuck is that? She's expressing an opinion, which is her right. There's no reason for this condescending, and frankly insulting, attitude.

Looks like Blackie is getting to uppity for his taste.

[AlabamaMan]

what the fuck is that? She's expressing an opinion, which is her right. There's no reason for this condescending, and frankly insulting, attitude.

insulting??? How about my opinion since you brought that up. I was just saying that people take race way too seriously. How are you insulted?

[AlabamaMan]

Looks like Blackie is getting to uppity for his taste.

See, thats exactly whats wrong. Grow up

[mikeyboy]

insulting??? How about my opinion since you brought that up. I was just saying that people take race way too seriously. How are you insulted?

I'm not insulted. Your attitude was insulting. You basically told her that her opinion was unimportant and the fact that she had an opinion was her making it all about herself. So it's okay for Blowhard to express his opinion but not okay for her to react to what she feels is hateful speech? I don't get it.

[IamPixie]

insulting??? How about my opinion since you brought that up. I was just saying that people take race way too seriously. How are you insulted?

Who the fuck are you to say what people should and shouldn't take seriously? If I felt strongly enough to post how I felt about the subject I'm gonna fucking say something. If the topic isn't you're cup of tea, stay out of it. But I have every right to voice my opinion and I think you're a jerk for trying to belittle my point of view.

[mikeyboy]

insulting??? How about my opinion since you brought that up. I was just saying that people take race way too seriously. How are you insulted?

Furthermore, era of civil rights be damned, racism is still prevalent in today's culture. Upon your advice, does that mean that people should just pretend it doesn't exist?

[IamPixie]

Why don't you just go worry about what you ate for lunch or something.

[Friday]

Blowhard, you're racist. Accept it.

oh I am certain that he is fully aware of his own racism... he just doesn't want to be called out on air.

typical.

[AlabamaMan]

I'm not insulted. Your attitude was insulting. You basically told her that her opinion was unimportant and the fact that she had an opinion was her making it all about herself. So it's okay for Blowhard to express his opinion but not okay for her to react to what she feels is hateful speech? I don't get it.

Well, I can't say how or why people would get their feelings hurt over words. I didn't mean to insult anyone. I was just trying to offer a thought about the subject. People should just be more mature about who and what they are, thats all. Sorry

[AlabamaMan]

Looks like Blackie is getting to uppity for his taste.

Oh, so you post this?????? Why are you so upset?

[mikeyboy]

Well, I can't say how or why people would get their feelings hurt over words. I didn't mean to insult anyone. I was just trying to offer a thought about the subject. People should just be more mature about who and what they are, thats all. Sorry

I don't think anyone got their feelings hurt. It just seemed inappropriate to me to demean the opinions of another as unworthy in the way that you did. Furthermore, I don't think the decision to react to what ones perceives as racist has anything to do with a lack of maturity.

[AlabamaMan]

Why don't you just go worry about what you ate for lunch or something.

So you do read my posts?? You know I am just trying to figure out why you are so mad. Are you a cop?:unsure:

[AlabamaMan]

I don't think anyone got their feelings hurt. It just seemed inappropriate to me to demean the opinions of another as unworthy in the way that you did. Furthermore, I don't think the decision to react to what ones perceives as racist has anything to do with a lack of maturity.

Well, perhaps you are correct about the racist and maturity angle. What I was attempting to suggest is that people use race in childish ways.

[IamPixie]

So you do read my posts?? You know I am just trying to figure out why you are so mad. Are you a cop?:unsure:

Whatever, dude. If you honestly cared you wouldn't have been so dickish when you first replied to my post. You just wanted to be cute and cutting.

[AlabamaMan]

Whatever, dude. If you honestly cared you wouldn't have been so dickish when you first replied to my post. You just wanted to be cute and cutting.

Well to be honest I don't care. Just thought you were letting your emotions control your thoughts and actions, so thats why I responded the way I did. I am sorry you are upset

[Marc with a c]

I was just saying that people take race way too seriously. How are you insulted?

this comment really bugged me.

[AlabamaMan]

this comment really bugged me.

If your going to say that at least enlighten me, sir.

[Hottub]

"I'm sorry you are upset"?
How about "I'm sorry I upset you." You want to talk about mature, you've got a little learning to do.

[nate1000]

Wow. This thread went south.

F it- I'm going to get a beer.:drunk:

[AlabamaMan]

"I'm sorry you are upset"?
How about "I'm sorry I upset you." You want to talk about mature, you've got a little learning to do.

I wrote it exactly the way I wanted it. I never said I was the voice of maturity or reason. You have to know that by now. It just seems like the easy way out of this, so. I AM WRONG, I AM SO SORRY

[underdog]

Whatever, dude. If you honestly cared you wouldn't have been so dickish when you first replied to my post. You just wanted to be cute and cutting.

Angry Pixie is the best.

this comment really bugged me.

Why? You don't think a white guy from Alabama should be the authority on how people feel about race?

[Hottub]

The easy way out, is not always the best way out, A Man.

OK, I'm done. I gotta meet nate for a beer.

[Marc with a c]

If your going to say that at least enlighten me, sir.

how could you say to someone that they take something too seriously? who are you to judge somebody based on things you haven't experienced, and don't know anything about?

i really don't take much seriously, but i would never tell somebody how they should react to something, especially something i don't know anything about, and something that clearly has touched a nerve.

[AlabamaMan]

Angry Pixie is the best.



Why? You don't think a white guy from Alabama should be the authority on how people feel about race?

you are right, white people in alabama are backwards and stupid, not at all as educated and open minded as the Northern people. wow...

[Marc with a c]

you are right, white people in alabama are backwards and stupid, not at all as educated and open minded as the Northern people. wow...

stop taking things so seriously

[underdog]

you are right, white people in alabama are backwards and stupid, not at all as educated and open minded as the Northern people. wow...

Yes, because that's what I said.

[AlabamaMan]

how could you say to someone that they take something too seriously? who are you to judge somebody based on things you haven't experienced, and don't know anything about?

i really don't take much seriously, but i would never tell somebody how they should react to something, especially something i don't know anything about, and something that clearly has touched a nerve.

Okay, I get that. But we are talking about race right? Let me ask you a question. In most movies today and in the past the villian or bad guy if you will, is a person or people with German heritage. Should we get upset about that? Nope we don't. Ask yourself...why.

[AlabamaMan]

stop taking things so seriously

I am not

[AlabamaMan]

Yes, because that's what I said.

ha ha, you are so well spoken....

[DOHO@HOME]

I blame the humans:huh:
I love the no Dave Fezzie show today wish the stupid chicks would do what they do best and clean up the studio or bake something.
Didn't they get the hint Ron was hungry:wallbash:
Holes kill radio card holder#1

[Marc with a c]

Okay, I get that. But we are talking about race right? Let me ask you a question. In most movies today and in the past the villian or bad guy if you will, is a person or people with German heritage. Should we get upset about that? Nope we don't. Ask yourself...why.

what?

i don't think anybody is getting upset about a german being a bad guy in a movie, or any other type of race for that matter.

who's complaining about bad guys in movies?

[epo]

Okay, I get that. But we are talking about race right? Let me ask you a question. In most movies today and in the past the villian or bad guy if you will, is a person or people with German heritage. Should we get upset about that? Nope we don't. Ask yourself...why.

Alabama Man, just step away from the keyboard. You are only going to make this worse for yourself in this discussion.

Type in the words "I'm wrong" and back away.

This will not end well.

[mikeyboy]

Okay, I get that. But we are talking about race right? Let me ask you a question. In most movies today and in the past the villian or bad guy if you will, is a person or people with German heritage. Should we get upset about that? Nope we don't. Ask yourself...why.

I think you need to cite some examples. I'd say a very small minority of villains in movies are German. I see nothing to validate your generalization. Now, if you're talking about Nazis being villains in movies, which does happen sometimes (but in most movies? hardly), things like the Holocaust seem to justify using them as villains.

What I'm curious about is when you say that people take racism too seriously, are you saying that racism isn't nearly as bad as people think it is or are you saying that people should just ignore racism? If it's the former, I don't think you can speak to it because you aren't subjected to it. If it's the latter I don't see how you can justify telling people to not react to racism when you're not the one subjected to it.

[Friday]

listen to the puppets.... they know best.

Everyone'sALittleBitRacist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CSnlb-ymA)

[AlabamaMan]

Alabama Man, just step away from the keyboard. You are only going to make this worse for yourself in this discussion.

Type in the words "I'm wrong" and back away.

This will not end well.

I am not wrong. :unsure:

[ralphbxny]

listen to the puppets.... they know best.

Everyone'sALittleBitRacist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CSnlb-ymA)

QFT

My 80 year old grandma is the sweetest most racist Puerto Rican you ever met. She does it oldschool. She smiles at you then just talks behind yourback!

Dont we all have something better to do. I am meeting the boys for a beer and try and pee on the Opie and Anthony threads.

[AlabamaMan]

I think you need to cite some examples. I'd say a very small minority of villains in movies are German. I see nothing to validate your generalization. Now, if you're talking about Nazis being villains in movies, which does happen sometimes (but in most movies? hardly), things like the Holocaust seem to justify using them as villains.

What I'm curious about is when you say that people take racism too seriously, are you saying that racism isn't nearly as bad as people think it is or are you saying that people should just ignore racism? If it's the former, I don't think you can speak to it because you aren't subjected to it. If it's the latter I don't see how you can justify telling people to not react to racism when you're not the one subjected to it.

Examples, okay I will start with die hard. Well, Hans was certainly German. how about that. I don't want to go on and on about movies. All I was trying to point out is that some people take a word or situation way too seriously and it controls the way they act and think. I used the German example because I am first generation American. Not German-American

[IamPixie]

Look who it's all about now....Just sayin....

[AlabamaMan]

Look who it's all about now....Just sayin....

See, you need to read closer honey. I was attempting to show you how people should react when they feel like they are being stereotyped. Hmm

[mikeyboy]

Examples, okay I will start with die hard. Well, Hans was certainly German. how about that. I don't want to go on and on about movies. All I was trying to point out is that some people take a word or situation way too seriously and it controls the way they act and think. I used the German example because I am first generation American. Not German-American

No, you need to go on and on about movies. You named one. That's not most. That's not even many. Your point made no sense. Just about every ethnic background has been featured as a villain in a movie at some point. Are you going to point to Lethal Weapon 2 and say that no one should be bothered by racism because white South Africans don't complain about it? And really, we weren't talking about how people are portrayed in movies anyway.

Would you please address the second half of my post above?

[Marc with a c]

See, you need to read closer honey. I was attempting to show you how people should react when they feel like they are being stereotyped. Hmm

you are completely missing the point.

who are you to show people how to react to anything that you know nothing about?

edit: nevermind you saw die hard

[AlabamaMan]

you are completely missing the point.

who are you to show people how to react to anything that you know nothing about?

edit: nevermind you saw die hard

Not only have I seen Die Hard, I have seen it a bunch:happy:

[Friday]

Look who it's all about now.......

Marc with a C?

:unsure:

[AlabamaMan]

No, you need to go on and on about movies. You named one. That's not most. That's not even many. Your point made no sense. Just about every ethnic background has been featured as a villain in a movie at some point. Are you going to point to Lethal Weapon 2 and say that no one should be bothered by racism because white South Africans don't complain about it? And really, we weren't talking about how people are portrayed in movies anyway.

Would you please address the second half of my post above?

Okay how about Indiana Jones? Opps thats not a good example

[AlabamaMan]

Look, I really don't care about how people think. Why is it so important, is it some kind of weird Pride?

[AlabamaMan]

Marc with a C?

:unsure:

shh, they will accuse you of racism:ohmy:

[mikeyboy]

Okay how about Indiana Jones? Opps thats not a good example

Okay, that's two, and that one falls under my Nazi explanation. It's really not getting you very close to "most movies".

Again, please address this:

What I'm curious about is when you say that people take racism too seriously, are you saying that racism isn't nearly as bad as people think it is or are you saying that people should just ignore racism? If it's the former, I don't think you can speak to it because you aren't subjected to it. If it's the latter I don't see how you can justify telling people to not react to racism when you're not the one subjected to it.

[mikeyboy]

Look, I really don't care about how people think. Why is it so important, is it some kind of weird Pride?

Wait. Aren't you the one who started this by telling someone how they should think and feel about something?

[IamPixie]

See, you need to read closer honey. I was attempting to show you how people should react when they feel like they are being stereotyped. Hmm

Why am I the only person you feel the need to talk down to? And AGAIN.
You
can
never
show
someone
how
they
should
react
to
anything.

Do you get it yet?

[Marc with a c]

Why am I the only person you feel the need to talk down to?

because you are a woman and you are black. what the fuck is your problem?

[Badinia]

Have we reached the inevitable messageboard argument time where someone gets called Hitler?

http://bp1.blogger.com/_48pIyTbrm4A/RwelCt9y_6I/AAAAAAAAAXU/F2Bi-qKPRY0/s400/hitler.JPG

I love that part.

[AlabamaMan]

Okay, that's two, and that one falls under my Nazi explanation. It's really not getting you very close to "most movies".

Again, please address this:

Are you serious about the movie thing? Its not my point at all. I was trying to explain how one group of people do not complain about how they are percieved. You see? You can't really tell me if it were another group or groups ( I don't even want to say who) but just as an example lets use Muslims. Just look how they react to cartoons. Thats a bad example. I used it just for that very reason... Now you want to know about how I see racism today??

[The Blowhard]

it's a world of laughter, a world or tears
its a world of hopes, its a world of fear
theres so much that we share
that its time we're aware
its a small world after all

CHORUS:
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small, small world

There is just one moon and one golden sun
And a smile means friendship to everyone.
Though the mountains divide
And the oceans are wide
It's a small small world

(chorus)
:wub:

[Hottub]

yes.

[AlabamaMan]

Okay, that's two, and that one falls under my Nazi explanation. It's really not getting you very close to "most movies".

Again, please address this:

we are all subjected to racism, See we are a victims, right?:wallbash:

[IamPixie]

we are all subjected to racism, See we are a victims, right?:wallbash:

You aren't smart. You have no point. Stop posting in this thread.

[AlabamaMan]

oh and SuperTroopers, they had germans in it

[AlabamaMan]

You aren't smart. You have no point. Stop posting in this thread.

huh? Why would you say that

[AlabamaMan]

You aren't smart. You have no point. Stop posting in this thread.

and I do have a point...... ( come on funny people, thats an easy joke)

[ralphbxny]

it's a world of laughter, a world or tears
its a world of hopes, its a world of fear
theres so much that we share
that its time we're aware
its a small world after all

CHORUS:
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small, small world

There is just one moon and one golden sun
And a smile means friendship to everyone.
Though the mountains divide
And the oceans are wide
It's a small small world

(chorus)
:wub:


See what you did?

[AlabamaMan]

and what about star wars

[Hottub]

and I do have a point...... ( come on funny people, thats an easy joke)

This discussion has gone way beyond funny. You probably should have listened to epo.

[AlabamaMan]

and what about that documentary " the War" it had some Germans.......

[mikeyboy]

Are you serious about the movie thing? Its not my point at all. I was trying to explain how one group of people do not complain about how they are percieved. You see? You can't really tell me if it were another group or groups ( I don't even want to say who) but just as an example lets use Muslims. Just look how they react to cartoons. Thats a bad example. I used it just for that very reason... Now you want to know about how I see racism today??

You're not making a lot of sense. To address your points one by one.

First, you brought up movie thing. It was part of your point. You can't pretend that I'm taking it too seriously when I'm merely trying to dissect your point.

Second, there are other groups who complain about how they are portrayed. There are groups that focus on the defamation in the media of Italians, Jews and Catholics for instance.

Third, I don't understand citing Muslim reaction to a cartoon. You do realize that their reactions came not in response to racism but because they perceived the cartoons to violate of their religion. Extreme? By our standards, no doubt, but it doesn't have anything to do with racism.

Now, for the fourth time, please address my question regarding why you think people take racism too seriously.

[AlabamaMan]

This discussion has gone way beyond funny. You probably should have listened to epo.

Nah, I think its interesting

[schabadoo]

Have we reached the inevitable messageboard argument time where someone gets called Hitler?



We never got there, as the discussion was preempted by a white southern playing the victim card for the poor persecuted German people.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

stick to lunch reports

oops supposed to be in purgatory

[mikeyboy]

and what about star wars

What planet was Germany in Star Wars?

[Hottub]

Nah, I think its interesting

It may be interesting if you could bring up a real point or 2 to defend your stance on racism. At this point it is nonsense.

[AlabamaMan]

What planet was Germany in Star Wars?

The storm troopers, so I guess that would make Germany the Death Star. You do know that right?

[AlabamaMan]

It may be interesting if you could bring up a real point or 2 to defend your stance on racism. At this point it is nonsense.

It is totally intentional, sir

[Friday]

This discussion has gone way beyond funny. You probably should have listened to epo.

qft

epo has smarts

[AlabamaMan]

We never got there, as the discussion was preempted by a white southern playing the victim card for the poor persecuted German people.

the white southern, thats funny:lol:

[EliSnow]

Just catching up. So three to five movies in the last 30 years that have germans as villains (or villains inspired by the german military during one 10 year time period) = most movies today have germans as villains?

[underdog]

Just catching up. So three to five movies in the last 30 years that have germans as villains (or villains inspired by the german military during one 10 year time period) = most movies today have germans as villains?

Yes. Thank you for catching up.

Also, your icon is the fucking best.

[AlabamaMan]

You're not making a lot of sense. To address your points one by one.

First, you brought up movie thing. It was part of your point. You can't pretend that I'm taking it too seriously when I'm merely trying to dissect your point.

Second, there are other groups who complain about how they are portrayed. There are groups that focus on the defamation in the media of Italians, Jews and Catholics for instance.

Third, I don't understand citing Muslim reaction to a cartoon. You do realize that their reactions came not in response to racism but because they perceived the cartoons to violate of their religion. Extreme? By our standards, no doubt, but it doesn't have anything to do with racism.

Now, for the fourth time, please address my question regarding why you think people take racism too seriously.
okay, look I was just attempting to make a point. Your not getting it at all
1. I used movies to illustrate how some groups don't complain at the slightest remark or stereotype
2. exactly my point
3. Thats exactly my point again. over sensitive (sp) Its not a standards thing, its a thought thing
4. and for that, no I don't think its that bad.

[AlabamaMan]

Just catching up. So three to five movies in the last 30 years that have germans as villains (or villains inspired by the german military during one 10 year time period) = most movies today have germans as villains?

Do you or have you ever played video games?

[EliSnow]

Yes. Thank you for catching up.

Also, your icon is the fucking best.

Why, thank you, 'dog.

[AlabamaMan]

qft

epo has smarts

whats qft?

[EliSnow]

Do you or have you ever played video games?

First, this is the first time that you video games have come up. Your point was that most movies today had germans as villains. So, let's stop moving the target.

Second, even with your new target, yes, I have. So what? Is your point that most video games have Germans as villains? Cause I think you'll lose on that point as well.

[EliSnow]

whats qft?

"Quoted For Truth."

[AlabamaMan]

First, this is the first time that you video games have come up. Your point was that most movies today had germans as villains. So, let's stop moving the target.

Second, even with your new target, yes, I have. So what? Is your point that most video games have Germans as villains? Cause I think you'll lose on that point as well.

Do I really need to point out all the movies? Thats NOT what I am saying. I am saying people should not cry everytime they are hurt by words. But yeah, if you play video games its always been germans until very recently. Call of Duty series???

[AlabamaMan]

I was only attempting to show how one person sees it. :ohmy:

[mikeyboy]

4. and for that, no I don't think its that bad.

...and you have no basis for making this statement because you're not the one subjected to it. We're not talking simply about stereotypes. We're talking about racism - prejudice or discrimination based on an individual's race. You may get some of the southern stereotypes, but I'm going to be honest with you, white men in this country aren't subject to all that much racism compared to just about every other ethnic group. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Maybe you ought to take a listen to the people who actually deal with it in their lives on a regular basis.

I was only attempting to show how one person sees it. :ohmy:

Then get off the soapbox and stop telling other people how they ought to think and feel.

[IamPixie]

I am saying people should not cry everytime they are hurt by words.

You're fucking hopeless.

[Badinia]

You're fucking hopeless.

PIXIE YOU WIN!

http://www.luxuryhomedigest.com/wp-content/uploads/gold-trophy.jpg

There is no point in arguing with the Alabama Man!

PM me and we can discuss why.

[EliSnow]

Do I really need to point out all the movies? Thats NOT what I am saying. I am saying people should not cry everytime they are hurt by words. But yeah, if you play video games its always been germans until very recently. Call of Duty series???

First, you said that most movies today have Germans as villains. That's not even close to true. I don't even think there was one major film last year that had germans as a villain. Here's the top 20 box office from last year:

1 Spider-Man 3
2 Shrek the Third
3 Transformers
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
5 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
6 I Am Legend
7 The Bourne Ultimatum Uni.
8 National Treasure: Book of Secrets
9 Alvin and the Chipmunks
10 300
11 Ratatouille
12 The Simpsons Movie
13 Wild Hogs
14 Knocked Up Uni.
15 Rush Hour 3
16 Juno
17 Live Free or Die Hard Fox
18 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer Fox
19 American Gangster
20 Enchanted


As for video games, that's is absolutely ridiculous. If it were true, you'd could have listed a bunch of video games right off the top of your head, but you came up with one series. Have there been games with germans as villains. Yes, but it has never been always Germans. Look at all of the popular video game series that did not have germans as villains (off the top of my head):

Mario Bros.
Metroid
Half-Life
Doom
Grand Theft Auto
Resident Evil
Silent Hill
Syphon Filter
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat

Now you're using these "facts" to support a larger point. But if you don't get the facts right, your point can't be believable.

[AlabamaMan]

You're fucking hopeless.

and you are a victim

[AlabamaMan]

First, you said that most movies today have Germans as villains. That's not even close to true. I don't even think there was one major film last year that had germans as a villain. Here's the top 20 box office from last year:

1 Spider-Man 3
2 Shrek the Third
3 Transformers
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
5 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
6 I Am Legend
7 The Bourne Ultimatum Uni.
8 National Treasure: Book of Secrets
9 Alvin and the Chipmunks
10 300
11 Ratatouille
12 The Simpsons Movie
13 Wild Hogs
14 Knocked Up Uni.
15 Rush Hour 3
16 Juno
17 Live Free or Die Hard Fox
18 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer Fox
19 American Gangster
20 Enchanted


As for video games, that's is absolutely ridiculous. If it were, you'd could have listed a bunch of video games right off the top of your head, but you came up with one series. Have there been games with germans as villains. Yes, but it has never been always Germans. Look at all of the popular video game series that did not have germans as villains (off the top of my head):

Mario Bros.
Metroid
Half-Life
Doom
Grand Theft Auto
Resident Evil
Silent Hill
Syphon Filter
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat


Your kidding right?

[AlabamaMan]

Just don't feel so guilty.....

[schabadoo]

1. I used movies to illustrate how some groups don't complain at the slightest remark or stereotype


No, you didn't. Maybe you tried, but you failed. Off the top of my head:

Iranians complained about 300.
Italians complained about the Sopranos, the Godfather, etc.
Homosexuals complained about Basic Instinct.
Christians complained about the Last Temptation of Christ.
Christians complained about Harry Potter.
Christians complained about the Da Vinci Code.
Kazakhs and Germans complained about Borat.
Chinese complained about Year of the Dragon.
etc etc etc

So what's your point?

[EliSnow]

Your kidding right?

How am I kidding? I'm showing your points about movies and video games are false.

[AlabamaMan]

PIXIE YOU WIN!

http://www.luxuryhomedigest.com/wp-content/uploads/gold-trophy.jpg

There is no point in arguing with the Alabama Man!

PM me and we can discuss why.

what did she really win?? and I know what ya'll are going to talk about

[AlabamaMan]

How am I kidding? I'm showing your points about movies and video games are false.

what about shooter games? hmm. Of course mario games don't you dope. Why don't you make a list of sonic the hedgehog games next...

[AlabamaMan]

No, you didn't. Maybe you tried, but you failed. Off the top of my head:

Iranians complained about 300.
Italians complained about the Sopranos, the Godfather, etc.
Homosexuals complained about Basic Instinct.
Christians complained about the Last Temptation of Christ.
Christians complained about Harry Potter.
Christians complained about the Da Vinci Code.
Kazakhs and Germans complained about Borat.
Chinese complained about Year of the Dragon.
etc etc etc

So what's your point?

You just made my point, thank you

[EliSnow]

Doom's a shooter. Metroid Prime shooter. Half-Life shooter.

But then again you didn't say shooter. You said "video games."

You keep moving the target.

[mikeyboy]

and you are a victim

Why exactly? Oh that's right. According to you, racism doesn't really exist. Once again, you're talking about something you have absolutely no first-hand knowledge of.

[mikeyboy]

You just made my point, thank you

It's really easy to say that someone has made your point if your point keeps changing. You've been pretty inarticulate in this thread about it up to this point, so why not try it again. What exactly is your point?

[Dingbat_Charlie]

No, you didn't. Maybe you tried, but you failed. Off the top of my head:

Iranians complained about 300.
Italians complained about the Sopranos, the Godfather, etc.
Homosexuals complained about Basic Instinct.
Christians complained about the Last Temptation of Christ.
Christians complained about Harry Potter.
Christians complained about the Da Vinci Code.
Kazakhs and Germans complained about Borat.
Chinese complained about Year of the Dragon.
etc etc etc

So what's your point?

don't forget people from the south complaining about being perceived as uneducated rednecks.

[RhinoinMN]

what about shooter games? hmm. Of course mario games don't you dope. Why don't you make a list of sonic the hedgehog games next...

at this point name calling will accomplish zero.

[AlabamaMan]

Why exactly? Oh that's right. According to you, racism doesn't really exist. Once again, you're talking about something you have absolutely no first-hand knowledge of.

and you do? Its okay that people are different, you don't need to protect everyone.

[AlabamaMan]

It's really easy to say that someone has made your point if your point keeps changing. You've been pretty inarticulate in this thread about it up to this point, so why not try it again. What exactly is your point?

I have. Look I am just having a discussion about how people act when they think someone is disrespecting them. I think the kids call it " diss'ing"

[mikeyboy]

Look, I really don't care about how people think.

Really? Hmmmmmmmm.

some one feels GUILTY......... grow up people, you are responsible for yourself

Calm down, just live your life. Its not always about you

See, thats exactly whats wrong. Grow up

Well, I can't say how or why people would get their feelings hurt over words. I didn't mean to insult anyone. I was just trying to offer a thought about the subject. People should just be more mature about who and what they are, thats all. Sorry

See, you need to read closer honey. I was attempting to show you how people should react when they feel like they are being stereotyped. Hmm

and you are a victim

Just don't feel so guilty.....

It sounds exactly like you are telling people how they should think.

[underdog]

and you do? Its okay that people are different, you don't need to protect everyone.

As a fake Puerto Rican, Mikeyboy has dealt with plenty of fake racism.

[jetdog]

wow

at the risk of scorn and belittlement, I have to nominate this as the worst thread I have ever read on ronfez.net

[cupcakelove]

I think only a poll can settle this.

[AlabamaMan]

Wow, thats nice work Mikey. I wonder what would happen if someone would read that real fast in front of a mirror

[AlabamaMan]

Now that I have read my posts.... I agree with me

[mikeyboy]

and you do? Its okay that people are different, you don't need to protect everyone.

Never said I did, but that's why I take the word of people who do rather than form my own unfounded opinion on the subject.



I have. Look I am just having a discussion about how people act when they think someone is disrespecting them. I think the kids call it " diss'ing"

You're changing the subject again. First we're talking about racism, and you scale it back just to stereotypes. Now you're focusing on disrespect, which isn't really a corollary. Even if we go in that direction, are you telling me that if someone disrespects you in your daily life, you just take it? I have a feeling that if that disrespect reached a certain level, you will react.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Really? Hmmmmmmmm.














It sounds exactly like you are telling people how they should think.


Face X 7

[EliSnow]

As a fake Puerto Rican, Mikeyboy has dealt with plenty of fake racism.

Don't forget that everyone says he's jewish.

[AlabamaMan]

Never said I did, but that's why I take the word of people who do rather than form my own unfounded opinion on the subject.





You're changing the subject again. First we're talking about racism, and you scale it back just to stereotypes. Now you're focusing on disrespect, which isn't really a corollary. Even if we go in that direction, are you telling me that if someone disrespects you in your daily life, you just take it? I have a feeling that if that disrespect reached a certain level, you will react.

You practice law, correct?

[cupcakelove]

Don't forget that everyone says he's jewish.

He's not? :huh:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Don't forget that everyone says he's jewish.


regular font, Eli means business

[AlabamaMan]

Face X 7

x7.... really?:blink:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

x7.... really?:blink:

well its X a good 45 from everyone here

but if I was in the Jury, id find you guilty

mikeyboy wins another case

[underdog]

regular font, Eli means business

Serious Eli is serious.

[AlabamaMan]

well its X a good 45 from everyone here

but if I was in the Jury, id find you guilty

mikeyboy wins another case

I am not the one who "feels" Guilty

[underdog]

I am not the one who "feels" Guilty

Who feels guilty?

[AlabamaMan]

can we end this, this is going no where. Just admit that I am right and we can move on

[EliSnow]

Who feels guilty? If you think mikeyboy or others here do, you're dreaming.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

can we end this, this is going no where. Just admit that I am a silly hayseed and we can move on


ok

[AlabamaMan]

ok

ouch, you are right. words....my self image is crushed

[AlabamaMan]

How many pages will today's Listening Thread reach?

1) 5
2) 10
3) 15
4) Infinity +1

Guess which one I voted for?

[Franklyn]

Calm down, just live your life. Its not always about you

In this case, It seems to be very much about her and people who look like her.

[AlabamaMan]

In this case, It seems to be very much about her and people who look like her.

what does that even mean?

[cupcakelove]

ouch, you are right. words....my self image is crushed

Is that a shot at the Jews? Because mikeyboy might take it personally.

[mikeyboy]

what does that even mean?

It's really not that hard to understand.

[schabadoo]

You just made my point, thank you

It apparently changed then. Originally you mentioned groups who didn't complain.

[AlabamaMan]

It's really not that hard to understand.

Well, lets just say for arguements sake, that I have no idea what that means. And that I win!

[AlabamaMan]

Good night, people. I am going home to cry.......:bye:

[jonyrotn]

okay, look I was just attempting to make a point. Your not getting it at all
1. I used movies to illustrate how some groups don't complain at the slightest remark or stereotype
2. exactly my point
3. Thats exactly my point again. over sensitive (sp) Its not a standards thing, its a thought thing
4. and for that, no I don't think its that bad.

If your point is, racism is over played and not as important as some make it out to be, you're an ass..
If your point is, race and racism should not be excluded from the list of things that ought to be satired, you're genius.

[mikeyboy]

Well, lets just say for arguements sake, that I have no idea what that means. And that I win!

I'm waiting for someone to tell me this is one of Snoogans' shitty board characters. Are you even trying to make a point anymore?

[mikeyboy]

If your point is, racism is over played and not as important as some make it out to be, you're an ass..
If your point is, race and racism should not be excluded from the list of things that ought to be satired, you're genius.

Careful. You're just giving him the opportunity to change his point again.

[Franklyn]

what does that even mean?

What I meant by that is that being a woman of color in America must subject Pixie to much more racism than other people. Finally finishing this thread I realize how much. The constant ignoring of her personal feelings on the issue in order to try and prove a point caused a lot of unneeded tension.

In terms of movie stereotypes, there are as many Germans in movies that are portrayed as "OCTOBERFEST" type people as the Nazis.

When it comes to people's feelings...personal feelings you should try to understand them and relate to them with personal experiences.

Also, I thought Mikey Boy was Jewish. Forever.

[jonyrotn]

Careful. You're just giving him the opportunity to change his point again.
Sorry..I withdraw the question..

[jonyrotn]

other people's personal feelings you should try to understand them and relate to them with personal experiences.

Also, I thought Mikey Boy was Jewish. Forever.
Words to live by...Always do unto others...

[joethebartender]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I just wanted to say that I'm so happy that I'm not this guy...(According to some of you, he is SCREWED!)

http://migratingidentity.net/tr/e30/e110/Desertnegerhosen2_thumb.jpg

[schabadoo]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I just wanted to say that I'm so happy that I'm not this guy...(According to some of you, he is SCREWED!)

http://migratingidentity.net/tr/e30/e110/Desertnegerhosen2_thumb.jpg

Who said that?

[mikeyboy]

What I meant by that is that being a woman of color in America must subject Pixie to much more racism than other people. Finally finishing this thread I realize how much. The constant ignoring of her personal feelings on the issue in order to try and prove a point caused a lot of unneeded tension.

Man. Now I feel bad for sexually harassing (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1656318&postcount=26) her earlier.

[Franklyn]

Man. Now I feel bad for sexually harassing (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1656318&postcount=26) her earlier.

Shhh, she tells me she likes it when you do, lol.

[Franklyn]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I just wanted to say that I'm so happy that I'm not this guy...(According to some of you, he is SCREWED!)

http://migratingidentity.net/tr/e30/e110/Desertnegerhosen2_thumb.jpg

how you found a black guy in lederhosen is incredible. :clap:

[Friday]

this thread has ensaddened me.

i like the Alabama Man. he is usually mentally stable in the listening thread. fun even!

can't we all just get along?

(well, not with Mikeyboy... but all the others) :bye:

[Franklyn]

this thread has ensaddened me.

i like the Alabama Man. he is usually mentally stable in the listening thread. fun even!

can't we all just get along?

(well, not with Mikeyboy... but all the others) :bye:

I like you a lot Friday. :) Great accent.

Also, I definitely have no ill feeling to anyone who disagrees with me here. In fact I love the blow hard.

[drjoek]

I was away from .net all day and came on line. I saw a 400+ post listening thread !! and thought great must have been in response to a seemingly great day on air for Fez
That is obviously not the case.

:wacko:

[Jughead]

Supper report........I had Rib Eyes...With cilantro,fresh white cracked pepper, liquid smoke, and lime marinade ....I baked potato's then I skinned them and ran them over the cheese grater...They looked like (hash brown potato's) Then I made them in to balls and deep fried them with blue cheese mixed in and salt.........Then I made a spinach salad with egg, bacon and olives (Black and green)..And I made a sweet tarragon and white vinegar,sugar dressing........With pine nuts......I call it the unity steak......:surrender:

[Jughead]

this thread has ensaddened me.

i like the Alabama Man. he is usually mentally stable in the listening thread. fun even!

can't we all just get along?

(well, not with Mikeyboy... but all the others) :bye:

Winner Im bringing some over to your house..Hope you like it....This arguing SUCKS!!!

[joethebartender]

how you found a black guy in lederhosen is incredible. :clap:

I found it when someone asked for something dark and German in the "beer" thread.

[TjM]

Listening to the replay. Man did PaulO snap

[SPeeDy_Freak]

The Dave-free show was fantastic. Ron's interview with Cheryl Hines was another solid one for ol' Ronnie B.

Without Dave, Fezzie was more of a presence. The back and forth was classic R&F.

I liked how Paul-O was strung along the whole time. He was losing his mind.

[DolaMight]

Too early.

Wait..... 13? huh

[DOHO@HOME]

It was nice to hear the Ron & fez show without Dave jumping in.
Alot of the time Ron will allow Dave to jump and step all over Fez I guess he wants Fez to step up and shut Dave down or just jump into the topic.
I love it when Dave laughs and he should just do that alittle more then butting in.

[nate1000]

But yeah, if you play video games its always been germans until very recently. Call of Duty series???

THAT IS IT!!!!

I have had all I can take, and I can't takes no mo.

Say whatever you want about black people, Bama, but when you disparage my beloved Call of Duty. I draw the line.

You take it back right this second or I swear to God I will SHERMAN your motherfucking redneck ass. I swear to christ I will burn this fucking place to the ground!

Call of Duty has no place in this conversation- you god damned animal. You take it back this instant.