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Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 04:35 AM

Why are we bothering with the trial he plead guilty and he is absolute evil, they should kill this guy in the middle of town like in Braveheart in front of people and on National TV

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/21/duncan.slayings.ap/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/images/256300/0_61_012307_joseph_edward_duncan.jpg

Seriously is there anyone here that wouldnt want to kill this guy themselves

booster11373

08-22-2008, 04:38 AM

yojimbo7248

08-22-2008, 04:39 AM

holy shit. this is the first I have heard of this story. what the fuck happens to a person that turns him into something that would do this to another human being?

WampusCrandle

08-22-2008, 05:52 AM

i remember hearing this story - have him fucking tortured. i have ZERO tolerance. i am on the fence for the death penalty, but this guy makes me want to kill him myself.

RAAMONE

08-22-2008, 05:59 AM

why does the story say he nearly killed a 9 year old boy?

A.J.

08-22-2008, 06:08 AM

Nope, don't cut his head off. Throw him in general population and let the most violent inmates have at him until he's dead.

That's not cruel and unusual punishment. I prefer to call it "unique and inspired".

Dirtybird12

08-22-2008, 06:09 AM

what the fuck happens to a person that turns him into something that would do this to another human being?

devil music.

seriously tho. I dont want this guy to get the death penalty. Send this fuck to prison and let justice take place there. Remember what happened to jeffrey dahmer? If this idiot got the death penalty, the state would kill him softly. the state would give this monster a platform to say some dumb shit as his "last words"

Turn that prick loose in a prison and let the other animals send him a message.

Freitag

08-22-2008, 06:13 AM

I didn't click the link but I saw the URL - this is the Shasta Groene case?

Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 06:14 AM

see i think you do it in public you start sending the message to these sick fucks

like that guy Couee (sp?) who kidnapped the little girl from the house in florida and then buried her alive in the backyard

Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 06:15 AM

I didn't click the link but I saw the URL - this is the Shasta Groene case?

yup

Freitag

08-22-2008, 06:16 AM

devil music.

seriously tho. I dont want this guy to get the death penalty. Send this fuck to prison and let justice take place there. Remember what happened to jeffrey dahmer? If this idiot got the death penalty, the state would kill him softly. the state would give this monster a platform to say some dumb shit as his "last words"

Turn that prick loose in a prison and let the other animals send him a message.

The problem is, since he crossed state lines, I'm presuming he's being tried in federal court. If that's the case, they may try to put him in SuperMax, which you are basically in a cell for 23 hours a day and that's it. No other prisoner contact.

Since Dahmer, they have been avoiding putting high-profile cases with content such as this into GenPop. They usually segregate them, similar to how Death Row is.

yojimbo7248

08-22-2008, 06:19 AM

devil music.

seriously tho. I dont want this guy to get the death penalty. Send this fuck to prison and let justice take place there. Remember what happened to jeffrey dahmer? If this idiot got the death penalty, the state would kill him softly. the state would give this monster a platform to say some dumb shit as his "last words"

Turn that prick loose in a prison and let the other animals send him a message.

I agree. I would far prefer the guy gets a Jeffery Dahmer fate. Even if the guy gets 18 consecutive life sentences but never gets beaten to death in the Dahmer manner, spending the next 75 odd years in solitary confinement, listening to the demons in his head is worse punishment than being put out of his misery.

KatPw

08-22-2008, 06:20 AM

Freitag

08-22-2008, 06:21 AM

keeeeey-rist, he made videos? I didn't know this. Holy God. I knew this guy was messed up (he had a blog that he wrote before the Groene killings that was discovered post-arrest. He had a major persecution complex.)

I'm inclined to agree with Perry. If they don't put him in SuperMax, GenPop. But if he gets the death penalty, he won't be in GenPop. So why is he arguing against the DP?

Dirtybird12

08-22-2008, 06:21 AM

yeah good point. I just dont see how he will escape the death penalty. I think the states method of killing is too clean and nice for this guy. A guy like this deserves to be punished.
not put to sleep.

Freitag

08-22-2008, 06:23 AM

Was Dahmer put on Death Row? I thought he got life because Wisconsin doesn't have the DP.

RAAMONE

08-22-2008, 06:25 AM

Was Dahmer put on Death Row? I thought he got life because Wisconsin doesn't have the DP.

i'm pretty sure Wisconsin allows double penetration

Freitag

08-22-2008, 06:25 AM

Crazy = being your own lawyer. Does that trick ever work?

Dirtybird12

08-22-2008, 06:25 AM

from wiki -

Jeffrey Dahmer was officially indicted on 17 murder charges, which were reduced to 15. The murder cases were already so notorious that the authorities never bothered to charge him in the attempted murder of Edwards. His trial began in January 1992. With evidence overwhelmingly against him, Dahmer pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. The court found Dahmer sane and guilty on 15 counts of murder and sentenced him to 15 life terms, totaling 957 years in prison. At his sentencing hearing, Dahmer expressed remorse for his actions, also saying that he wished for his own death.

KatPw

08-22-2008, 06:26 AM

yeah good point. I just dont see how he will escape the death penalty.
Sanity? Isn't that how they usually get off, they are shown to not be sane enough to be sentenced to death?

Misteriosa

08-22-2008, 06:27 AM

Was Dahmer put on Death Row? I thought he got life because Wisconsin doesn't have the DP.

all i remember was that he was killed in jail. perfect justice. i bet the guards gave his killer hi-fives.

Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 06:29 AM

That is absolutely disgusting. I hope his death is slow and painful.

first books now death penalty we agree on a lot you know, only i dont knit

I macrame :lol:

A.J.

08-22-2008, 06:31 AM

A guy like this deserves to be punished. not put to sleep.

Agreed. So can we execute him Eduard Delacroix-from-The-Green-Mile-style?

http://kino.ural.ru/images/movies/the_green_mile_61.jpg

KatPw

08-22-2008, 06:32 AM

first books now death penalty we agree on a lot you know, only i dont knit

I macrame :lol:

I made a macrame pocketbook in 4-H a long time ago. Yeah, I'm a crafty bitch :lol:

And it is nice to see reading is alive and well, sadly more people don't do it.

Freitag

08-22-2008, 06:36 AM

Agreed. So can we execute him Eduard Delacroix-from-The-Green-Mile-style?

http://kino.ural.ru/images/movies/the_green_mile_61.jpg

WET THE SPONGE!

DarkHippie

08-22-2008, 07:08 AM

see i think you do it in public you start sending the message to these sick fucks

I hear this argument all the time for the death penalty and I just dont buy it. If someone is already crazy, do you think he gives a shit about living or dying? Death isnt going to be a deterrent to someone this evil. Neither would it be to some street thug who spends his life one step from a bullet in the head.

That being said, if anyone deserved to die, its this fucker. If I believed in the Devil, he would be it.

EliSnow

08-22-2008, 07:13 AM

I hear this argument all the time for the death penalty and I just dont buy it. If someone is already crazy, do you think he gives a shit about living or dying? Death isnt going to be a deterrent to someone this evil. Neither would it be to some street thug who spends his life one step from a bullet in the head.

That being said, if anyone deserved to die, its this fucker. If I believed in the Devil, he would be it.

Until the last century or so, executions were public virtually everywhere. (In fact, I think some of the Muslim countries still have public executions).

And it didn't seem to bring an era of peace.

The death penalty isn't a deterrent and it never has been.

Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 07:18 AM

I just think public execution in a manner that is torturous and stop the b.s. appeals that guys like this get just waste time and money

and the ratings would be through the roof in this country

or maybe a running man game for these guys

CofyCrakCocaine

08-22-2008, 07:18 AM

Until the last century or so, executions were public virtually everywhere. (In fact, I think some of the Muslim countries still have public executions).

And it didn't seem to bring an era of peace.

The death penalty isn't a deterrent and it never has been.

How about as a deterrent to taxes? Or do 0 tax dollars go into maintaining prisons/appeals and so on?

And I could give a shit about the death penalty as a deterrent. I only care about it insofar as some folks DESERVE death after one or two too many child murders, and it's what probably should happen. Oh well, let's save 'em so we feel better about ourselves and act all superior to people who don't agree with us! Fuck it.

Fezticle98

08-22-2008, 07:26 AM

How about as a deterrent to taxes? Or do 0 tax dollars go into maintaining prisons/appeals and so on?

And I could give a shit about the death penalty as a deterrent. I only care about it insofar as some folks DESERVE death after one or two too many child murders, and it's what probably should happen. Oh well, let's save 'em so we feel better about ourselves and act all superior to people who don't agree with us! Fuck it.

Yeah, we should just get rid of appeals altogether. And maintaining prisons? Fuck those filthy animals! Why even have guards? We should just lock them up in one cell and let them kill each other.

Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 07:31 AM

Yeah, we should just get rid of appeals altogether. And maintaining prisons? Fuck those filthy animals! Why even have guards? We should just lock them up in one cell and let them kill each other.

I would have zero problem with that

This guy fucking tortured a little kid, filmed it, made the little girl watch the tape, then shot the boy in the stomach which didnt kill him, then shot him in the head in front of that little girl

In addition to killing 3 toher members of their family

and he has already plead guilty

CofyCrakCocaine

08-22-2008, 07:32 AM

Yeah, we should just get rid of appeals altogether. And maintaining prisons? Fuck those filthy animals! Why even have guards? We should just lock them up in one cell and let them kill each other.

Yes because that's what I was saying, Mr.Stenographic Paraphraser.

I won't even bother, your head is too far up your ass to hear words anyway. Go put words in someone else's mouth, jerkface.

ahhdurr

08-22-2008, 07:37 AM

That's really awful. There's a badness about.

I'm inclined to rethink our social and physiological explanations of these things.

EliSnow

08-22-2008, 07:38 AM

How about as a deterrent to taxes? Or do 0 tax dollars go into maintaining prisons/appeals and so on?

A "deterrent to taxes?" That doesn't even make sense.

And I could give a shit about the death penalty as a deterrent. I only care about it insofar as some folks DESERVE death after one or two too many child murders, and it's what probably should happen. Oh well, let's save 'em so we feel better about ourselves and act all superior to people who don't agree with us! Fuck it.

Who said anything like that? All I said was that the death penalty wasn't a deterrent. Nothing else. And I don't think that anyone said anything about saving this guy.

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth.

Marc with a c

08-22-2008, 07:42 AM

he looks like cousin larry

Freitag

08-22-2008, 07:49 AM

he looks like cousin larry

I was thinking Brundlefly

TheMojoPin

08-22-2008, 08:03 AM

I love how we've just given up on prisons as being anything but drug/murder/rape factories, yet we continually find more ways to send more people than ever before into them.

CofyCrakCocaine

08-22-2008, 08:03 AM

A "deterrent to taxes?" That doesn't even make sense.

Who said anything like that? All I said was that the death penalty wasn't a deterrent. Nothing else. And I don't think that anyone said anything about saving this guy.

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth.

Though I was quoting you, I was only doing so insofar as to respond to that one deterrent remark you made. The second paragraph spiel was more a rant on my part about "So-Sigh-Eh-Tee", and really nothing to do with what you or anyone said in this thread so far.

I honestly actually agree with Eli's statement. French Revolution proves him right. Robespierre thought the death penalty was awesome. Up to a point. (Hah! Hah!!!)

As such, I wasn't putting words into yours or anyone else's mouth. But that's a matter of interpretation if you so choose.

And my question is unanswered. How much $$$ goes into the whole process of "caring" for these guys? Even killing them costs alot of money- it baffles me as to why. It costs nothing to stab a motherfucker (stole from Chris Rock).

A.J.

08-22-2008, 08:17 AM

Until the last century or so, executions were public virtually everywhere. (In fact, I think some of the Muslim countries still have public executions).

And it didn't seem to bring an era of peace.

The death penalty isn't a deterrent and it never has been.

Every Friday in Riyadh near the Gold Souk in "Chop-Chop Square".

It's not a deterrent, it's a punishment.

A.J.

08-22-2008, 08:19 AM

I love how we've just given up on prisons as being anything but drug/murder/rape factories, yet we continually find more ways to send more people than ever before into them.

I agree 100%. Watch those lockup specials on MSNBC and tell me that a good number of those scumbags are taking up precious oxygen. Kill the most violent. They're worthless subhumans.

TheMojoPin

08-22-2008, 08:22 AM

I agree 100%. Watch those lockup specials on MSNBC and tell me that a good number of those scumbags are taking up precious oxygen. Kill the most violent. They're worthless subhumans.

It's just stupid to pack prisons with minor criminals for these guys to prey on and either kill or ultimately turn into something much worse. I have no idea why "supermax" is the exception and not the rule. Get people in prison who actually should be in there and keep them locked up 23 hours a day. That's prison. That's something that either makes you want out and never to go back or punishes you for the rest of your life.

DarkHippie

08-22-2008, 08:32 AM

or maybe a running man game for these guys

I can get behind that ;)

Knowledged_one

08-22-2008, 08:46 AM

To a mod can this be altered to include a poll?

Just yes or no, no stupid pee on the dead guy or anything

Im curious about the results and just thought of it now

TheMojoPin

08-22-2008, 08:59 AM

We all die, there's no "should" about it.

A.J.

08-22-2008, 09:11 AM

We all die, there's no "should" about it.

Thank you Socrates. I'll rephrase it.

EDIT: Well, I guess I can't edit it. I guess I should have typed "Should we speed up his impending death?"

ahhdurr

08-22-2008, 10:12 AM

Who said anything like that? All I said was that the death penalty wasn't a deterrent. Nothing else. And I don't think that anyone said anything about saving this guy.

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth.
I was thinking about your comment later - I thought ... I wonder if we would all get together and say - statistics show this is not a deterrent, but what about just some plain vengeful Old Testament style justice? We'll all breathe a little easier.

It would violate Habeus Corpus, but fuck it. I'm all in.

AnnoyedGrunt

08-22-2008, 12:36 PM

At one point he threatened to make a citizen's arrest of anyone watching, saying viewing child pornography is a crime.

If the rest of the story wasn't so horrific that would be a funny line.