A guy put his finger into my wife's asshole

[Judge Smails]

Should I be worried?

OK, so my wife had a gynocologist appointment today and she says that after he got done examining her he non-chalantly (if that's even possible) sticks his finger into her asshole - not once but twice. He happened to do this when the two of them were alone in the room and needless to say my wife was quite taken aback. It's like her third visit with him since our insurance changed. She's nearly 39 and she says she's never had a doctor stick anything in her asshole before.

Now, my wife is the type of person who would never question an authority figure. So, while she was really weirded out, she said nothing at the time. She's really embarrased about it now and is afraid to even ask her friends about it for fear of looking stupid - either stupid for not knowing that this is normal or stupid for letting some guy stick his finger in her asshole.

So, tonight she breaks the news to me and asks my opinion like I know shit about assholes. I blurt out: "prostate exam" but then I immediately realize I'm just as stupid as she is. So, of course I jump online and Google "gynocologist + finger in anus" and the only thing I find is that sometimes it's done to young girls on their first visit in order to find out if their uterus is properly alligned or if it is tipped.

Certainly such a thing would not be necessary on a 39 year old woman who has already had two kids and has most likely closed up shop on any future babies?

So ladies - does this happen to you or should I go down to that office and give that chap a right good thrashing.

[Don Stugots]

punch the dude in the face and piss on his shoes.

[~Katja~]

Rectal
While some physicians routinely perform a rectal exam on all patients, others perform a rectal only on selected individuals in certain clinical circumstances, such as after age 50.

Routine screening with sigmoidoscopy every 5 years after age 50 is recommended by many physicians.

After the rectal exam, the small particles of stool left on the examining glove can be evaluated for the presence of occult blood. This is most useful after the age of 50.

I guess it depends ... since she is under 50

another source includes it as well
Your gyne exam
When you go for your first gyne exam, you
will be asked about your medical, family, and
reproductive history. You also will be asked:
• the date and length of your last period
• what type of birth control you use
• if you have ever been pregnant
• if you smoke, drink alcohol, or take any
drugs or medicines
You will be asked to put on a gown for the
exam. A gyne exam may include the following:
• urine specimen
• blood pressure
• blood sample from a needle prick of your
finger
• height and weight
• breast exam
• heart and lungs exam
• exam of your lower belly
• rectal exam
• colon-rectal cancer screening
• pelvic exam
• Pap test

and an explanation
Rectal Exam

Lastly, the clinician may perform a rectal exam. She or he will briefly insert one lubricated, gloved finger into your rectum, which will push your uterus, ovaries and fallopian toward the surface of the abdomen. This allows the clinician to feel irregularities which may not be detected otherwise.

[~Katja~]

punch the dude in the face and piss on his shoes.

no, he should thank him for easing the way for him... if she let the doc do you surely are allowed now ;)

[Chigworthy]

Piss in his asshole (or hers).

[patsopinion]

shouldnt this be in the doctor steve thread?

[IrishAlkey]

Was he wearing gloves?

[Drunky McBetidont]

i'm thinking ask dr. steve might be a good start here. he should know if this is normal or if this is grounds for a huge law suit $$$.

i stay away from doctors for just this reason btw.

[Don Stugots]

no, he should thank him for easing the way for him... if she let the doc do you surely are allowed now ;)

ok, now where is the Katja is hot thread again?

[LaBoob]

I've heard this before and don't think it's necessary... if she was in there for some kind of concern about that part in relationship to her vagina, maybe, but just a routine check up? Highly suspicious.

[torker]

Spit is not a medically approved lubricant.

[~Katja~]

i'm thinking ask dr. steve might be a good start here. he should know if this is normal or if this is grounds for a huge law suit $$$.

i stay away from doctors for just this reason btw.

stop with the lawsuit thoughts right there. This is what makes it almost impossible for physicians to practice anymore these days.

[Judge Smails]

Yeah I guess if someone could move this to "Ask Dr. Steve" that would make sense. Though the chances of getting some funny/ smart-ass replies is better here.

Ok - I realize that it is possibly done at times but was it neccessary in my wife's case? Also, since my wife had never heard of it - just how common is it?

[torker]

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes510/Fletch213.jpeg

[Drunky McBetidont]

stop with the lawsuit thoughts right there. This is what makes it almost impossible for physicians to practice anymore these days.

stop what? the practice of anal assault by a digit? thank god for the courts!

all he had to do was tell her what he was about to do and why and this thread wouldn't exist.

[~Katja~]

I would just tell her that next time she goes in when the nurse leaves the room, to stop her and make sure the examination is completed.
She also has the right to ask about any results of the exam and can question if he found anything abnormal while doing the rectal, since he inserted it twice.

[Friday]

it's common.
normally gynecologists opt to do this exam every 3rd or 4th visit.
i think it used to be a lot more 'the norm' ... but nowadays it seems most women don't like it so they have phased it out but it really IS the best way to feel the ovaries for irregularities or growths.

i think as you get older it becomes more important to get this part of the exam done.

[IrishAlkey]

Apparently I'm an expert in the condition of Silera's ovaries.

Who knew?

[Judge Smails]

What pisses me off is that, as my mod quote would attest, I'm always game for some assplay. Now this fucker comes along and, after seeing my wife just three times, he's gotten further back there than I've ever managed after 13 years of marriage.

[~Katja~]

stop what? the practice of anal assault by a digit? thank god for the courts!

all he had to do was tell her what he was about to do and why and this thread wouldn't exist.

that's besides my point. Many medical lawsuits are outrageous and should never exist.

I am sure every person sues their mechanic when a repair did not work out ( granted, that is a poor comparison) but it seems almost no other profession has to go through such ridiculous and often unfounded lawsuits.

His wife is 39 and can handle herself. There is no reason for her to be ashamed, it is her body and she has the right to question what is being done. If she still feels it was done for any other reason than a medical procedure, I suggest her to call the office and clear it up.
The procedure should be recorded in the chart for one thing... and if it's not then I would ask for a diagnoses, no matter if it is positive or negative.

If her gynecologist makes her feel uncomfortable I also recommend a switch (if that is possible with the insurance) because they are the kind of doctor a woman has to be able to trust and feel comfortable with.

[Drunky McBetidont]

maybe it is me? i don't understand the overall acceptance of people having fingers in their assholes. i figure if the shit comes out normally the pipes are working fine. if i am no longer passing waste i would be willing to have it checked but the whole (hole) idea of having someone stick their finger in my asshole as part of a standard exam is just fucking weird to me? maybe i am a prude?

[~Katja~]

What pisses me off is that, as my mod quote would attest, I'm always game for some assplay. Now this fucker comes along and, after seeing my wife just three times, he's gotten further back there than I've ever managed after 13 years of marriage.

I am sorry, but it sounds like she likes to be surprised... go for it ;)

[~Katja~]

maybe it is me? i don't understand the overall acceptance of people having fingers in their assholes. i figure if the shit comes out normally the pipes are working fine. if i am no longer passing waste i would be willing to have it checked but the whole (hole) idea of having someone stick their finger in my asshole as part of a standard exam is just fucking weird to me? maybe i am a prude?

or maybe you just should pick up a book about anatomy and it all makes sense again.

[Drunky McBetidont]

or maybe you just should pick up a book about anatomy and it all makes sense again.

really? my dad never got his asshole probed. my grandfather would have killed a motherfucker that got within a foot of his rectum. this seems like a fairly new medical procedure to me. i don't trust the recommendations of the AMA any more than i trust an indian shaman or a haitian priest or voodoo witch doctor. actually, i would rather get some chicken blood poured over my sick body than have chemotherapy. that is how i feel. now tell me how uneducated i am and how i know nothing about the subject of human anatomy and physiology. you might want a taller ladder to get on that high horse of yours.

[Chigworthy]

really? my dad never got his asshole probed.

Not what I heard.

[ahhdurr]

Now this fucker comes along and, after seeing my wife just three times, he's gotten further back there than I've ever managed after 13 years of marriage.
...so a fight in the bedroom might now end with, "oh, so Dr. Vagina gets your back door but I don't?!"
<br>
Now... why the second entry?

[biozombie]

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes510/Fletch213.jpeg
:laugh:
Do you have to use the whole fist, doc?

[Jughead]

Bragger....so many of them on here....:innocent:

[~Katja~]

really? my dad never got his asshole probed. my grandfather would have killed a motherfucker that got within a foot of his rectum. this seems like a fairly new medical procedure to me. i don't trust the recommendations of the AMA any more than i trust an indian shaman or a haitian priest or voodoo witch doctor. actually, i would rather get some chicken blood poured over my sick body than have chemotherapy. that is how i feel. now tell me how uneducated i am and how i know nothing about the subject of human anatomy and physiology. you might want a taller ladder to get on that high horse of yours.

it's not a high horse, I ride a pony.

and I am guessing your father and grandfather did not grow up in a generation where prostate cancers are prevented and detected early.

I am not saying whatever medical or natural form of treatment you chose is bad, I am saying that there are way too many bogus lawsuits in the US in general and the medical profession is one of the highest targeted because the settlements tend to be enormous and cases seem to be easily won.

[torker]

why the second entry?
The guttural moan following the first.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Not what I heard.

aliens don't count. that was research.

and the other time was... well, research of a different kind.

[Chigworthy]

illegal aliens don't count. that was research.



No need for that.

[Hottub]

Spit is not a medically approved lubricant.

The guttural moan following the first.

Holy Shit!

Torker comes back with a vengeance.

Well done, fruitcake.:clap:

[Drunky McBetidont]

it's not a high horse, I ride a pony.

and I am guessing your father and grandfather did not grow up in a generation where prostate cancers are prevented and detected early.

I am not saying whatever medical or natural form of treatment you chose is bad, I am saying that there are way too many bogus lawsuits in the US in general and the medical profession is one of the highest targeted because the settlements tend to be enormous and cases seem to be easily won.

i also am not on a rampage against all doctors of medicine, some of my closet friends are MDs (god i sound like a biggot)

i just think and feel that just because the AMA dictates a procedure as necessary doesn't mean it is and some of those procedures have been shown to shorten lifespans. but who cares. this thread is about a gynecologist and his questionable actions behind the curtain.

my first point about legal action if this anal fingering was unethical is also not an indictment on all medical professionals. it is an indictment on a possibly perverted medical professional (and we know they exist in numbers that rival the pedophiles of the priesthood)

[~Katja~]

i also am not on a rampage against all doctors of medicine, some of my closet friends are MDs (god i sound like a biggot)



freudian slip???

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Ok so... Sam Serious checking in... I thought HMO's were the A#1 catalyst for the slowing of medical progress in the United States. BS lawsuits are hardly the problem - insurance issues are a leading cause of doctors suddenly losing their jobs and/or imprisonment. Docs can be assholes too (topical!!) so I'm not against lawsuits. It's the kind of industry that needs to have their ethics strictly enforced... that inevitably attracts bullshit lawsuits, but that's the con of any legal system.

Besides don't take it too personal that Bet doesn't agree with ya Frau Kat... this is the same dude who treated his hand like a prime rib and then tried to sleep it off before going to the doctor. :tongue:

[Drunky McBetidont]

freudian slip???

the fingering we practice is purely recreational. ;)

[~Katja~]

Ok so... Sam Serious checking in... I thought HMO's were the A#1 catalyst for the slowing of medical progress in the United States. BS lawsuits are hardly the problem - insurance issues are a leading cause of doctors suddenly losing their jobs and/or imprisonment. Docs can be assholes too (topical!!) so I'm not against lawsuits. It's the kind of industry that needs to have their ethics strictly enforced... that inevitably attracts bullshit lawsuits, but that's the con of any legal system.

Besides don't take it too personal that Bet doesn't agree with ya Frau Kat... this is the same dude who treated his hand like a prime rib and then tried to sleep it off before going to the doctor. :tongue:

right, but by insurance it is hardly health insurance that cause it, but liability and medical malpractice insurance costs that drives them out of certain states and offices.

I am not taking it personal, I am just stating my opinion... he can have his own. He is clearly the manly man type that fears modern medicine.
My grandfather is like that ( and just as stubborn), he signed a release to the paramedics not wanting to go to the hospital after a stroke.
They had to leave him behind.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Besides don't take it too personal that Bet doesn't agree with ya Frau Kat... this is the same dude who treated his hand like a prime rib and then tried to sleep it off before going to the doctor. :tongue:

and i lied about going to the doctor. i got tired of people calling me wacky for holding it together. the little fucker is right as rain now budday. mother nature has a way of working things out for you (until you are dead)

[Chigworthy]

the buggering we practice is purely phenomenal. ;)

You just can't win.

[spoon]

Sorry about sticking my digit in your wive's starfish JS.

[Drunky McBetidont]

right, but by insurance it is hardly health insurance that cause it, but liability and medical malpractice insurance costs that drives them out of certain states and offices.

I am not taking it personal, I am just stating my opinion... he can have his own. He is clearly the manly man type that fears modern medicine.
My grandfather is like that ( and just as stubborn), he signed a release to the paramedics not wanting to go to the hospital after a stroke.
They had to leave him behind.

not manly man at all. although i can see how the comments about my dad and grand dad give that impression. i just think we (as a species) over medicate and unnaturally operate on one and other to the point of ubsurdity. i say let it go down as nature planned and don't get hung up on some person's prognosis of your future. i don't want to will myself to dying because someone found a silly abnormal cell cluster in my digestive tract. if nobody found it and i didn't know about it how does anyone know that my body wouldn't naturally heal itself? how do i know that i haven't had multiple tumors come and go in multiple organs since embryonic development. hog wash and horse droppings. the power of positive thought beats the shit out of any pharmacy

but i still like to listen to dr steve talk about peoples weird balls and stuff. don't get me wrong here.

[Drunky McBetidont]

You just can't win.

truth spoken. i can't even catch a break betting against hippo's picks. i am doomed.:glurps:

[bigtim666]

i got beat off by a hooker on sunday and i stuck my finger in her ass, she didnt complain

[FUNKMAN]

http://www.seeitornot.faketrix.com/content/funnies-pics/page-2/originals/funny-gynacology-cartoon-gynecologists-convention-sniffing-fingers.jpg

[CofyCrakCocaine]

right, but by insurance it is hardly health insurance that cause it, but liability and medical malpractice insurance costs that drives them out of certain states and offices.

I am not taking it personal, I am just stating my opinion... he can have his own. He is clearly the manly man type that fears modern medicine.
My grandfather is like that ( and just as stubborn), he signed a release to the paramedics not wanting to go to the hospital after a stroke.
They had to leave him behind.

I was only jokin' about the taking him serious part. I put a smiley there to indicate my jokin'ness :smoke:

Friend of mine got sued by the hospital when a family member died because someone handling bills there fucked up and lost their payment for the ambulance bill. Hospital wasted no time, sued the family's ass off less than a month after their old man was gone, won themselves money with interest despite the fault lying with one of their own employees. So it goes both ways. Like I said before, they're all assholes. Pun x 2

[Drunky McBetidont]

i beat off a hooker on sunday and i stuck my finger in his ass, he didnt complain

:ohmy:

[torker]

http://www.seeitornot.faketrix.com/content/funnies-pics/page-2/originals/funny-gynacology-cartoon-gynecologists-convention-sniffing-fingers.jpg
Is that Mrs. Smails' violated pooper?

[Space Edge]

Hot now I have batch material for later

[Judge Smails]

SFW Re-enactment

http://i38.tinypic.com/k32gbp.gif

[bigtim666]

:ohmy:

well i was in san fran so she might have been a tranny

[Drunky McBetidont]

SFW Re-enactment

http://i38.tinypic.com/k32gbp.gif

why can't i stop watching this? what the fuck is wrong with me?

seriously. what the fuck is wrong with me?

[Drunky McBetidont]

well i was in san fran so she might have been a tranny

don't make you a bad person, budday. ;)

[ahhdurr]

i got beat off by a hooker on sunday
goddamit that would look good next to his screen name.:smoke:

[ravn816]

While the rectal exam can be part of an OB/GYN exam, I'm actually more concerned with the nurse not being in the room. That's actually against the law. Either a nurse or your husband/partner has to be in the room with the doctor when performing an internal exam.

And just a general point, if this doc makes her feel that uncomfortable, she should look into other OB/GYNs.

Just my 2 cents.

[DrDrew319]

I think the rule is as long as he didnt lick his finger before or after, he is just doing his job

[mendyweiss]

Let Mendy Do It Next Time, I Won't Charge You The Co-Pay.

[nate1000]

If both hands were on her shoulders, I'd be worried.

[bigtim666]

goddamit that would look good next to his screen name.:smoke:

next to who's name boday

[ahhdurr]

next to who's name boday

who do I have to blow to get this guy mod quoted? Oh - no... Tub.

[SatCam]

ass play is not cheating

[torker]

ass play is not cheating
It might as Welby.
http://i.cnn.net/v5cache/TCM/Images/Dynamic/i58/marcus_062920071014.jpg
Smell my finger.

[scottinnj]

.......... but it really IS the best way to feel the ovaries for irregularities or growths.

I have a better way.

[Leticia]

SFW Re-enactment

http://i38.tinypic.com/k32gbp.gif

This just looks wrong... even if it is her knee.





I think that this is def. a normal part of the exam.
The question is did he even warn her? Or just stuck his finger in there. Cause from what I've experienced, they tell you you'll feel some pressure right before they do it.


I've also never had it done with no nurse in the room.

This is the reason I can never have a male gyn. It's too weird.

[Mullenax]

Rectal probing hasn't been part of my gyno visit experience, ever, but rectal probing has been part of the diagnostic for other issues (like appendicitis).

Twice, though... twice? Alone in the room?

I'd say best-case scenario he's not doing it right the first time and worst-case scenario he's weird. Put together with no nurses present=see about taking the goods somewhere else.

[Jennitalia]

my last gyno (female) and current gyno (male) violate me in this manner. it's bad enough they're pressing down on my bladder and ovaries, but they give me the "whoops" too.

i'll be getting a finger up my butt on oct 13.

[bigfatfuck]

Some guys have all the luck

[oldladyfacepuncher]

some guys do nothing but complain

[MacVittie]

I can't understand why a doctor in the 21st century would examine a woman without a female nurse in the room. That way there's a witness. I'd like to think that patients should trust their doctors and doctors should trust their patients, but that's not the world we live in.

[nerdo5]

I guess it depends ... since she is under 50

another source includes it as well


and an explanation

It is absolutely hot that Katja knows about ass investigation.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I can't understand why a doctor in the 21st century would examine a woman without a female nurse in the room. That way there's a witness. I'd like to think that patients should trust their doctors and doctors should trust their patients, but that's not the world we live in.

Y'know how inefficient that would be, having to worry about political correctness and women's Lib at the doctor's office? You'd be sitting in the waiting room even longer than ya already do because the nurses would have to be present to make sure the evil doctor wasn't putting his fingers in a woman's pussy (which does NOT make you a bad person)

[Dougie Brootal]

i'll be getting a finger up my butt on oct 13.

me too!

[Mullenax]

You'd be sitting in the waiting room even longer than ya already do because the nurses would have to be present to make sure the evil doctor wasn't putting his fingers in a woman's pussy (which does NOT make you a bad person)

This is a strict policy in a lot of places, including when the gyno's a lady, and don't act like no one has ever had a reason to complain about a doctor's behavior during an exam or procedure.

They just put a monster gyno named Charles Momah away in Seattle for raping women on his table during routine exams, "taking indecent liberties" like gloveless probing, and letting his non-doctor twin brother "examine" unsuspecting patients. He told his victims no one would believe them because he's a doctor (http://www.courttv.com/trials/momah/111705_ctv.html). Those women would have gladly waited a little longer to have a nurse/witness between them and him, don't you think?

[CofyCrakCocaine]

This is a strict policy in a lot of places, including when the gyno's a lady, and don't act like no one has ever had a reason to complain about a doctor's behavior during an exam or procedure.

They just put a monster gyno named Charles Momah away in Seattle for raping women on his table during routine exams, "taking indecent liberties" like gloveless probing, and letting his non-doctor twin brother "examine" unsuspecting patients. He told his victims no one would believe them because he's a doctor (http://www.courttv.com/trials/momah/111705_ctv.html). Those women would have gladly waited a little longer to have a nurse/witness between them and him, don't you think?

A friend of mine was nearly blown away at Columbine, should I demand that there's a witness for every kid who has a short haircut and trench coat? It's impractical, illogical, and no matter the security, there will always be at least one bad occurrence like what you referenced a year. I suppose if the witness was a robot, or a camera with a minigun attachment, the incidence of evil doctors would go down, at least in their secured clinics. But I sure as shit don't trust people to be reliable witnesses. Kitty Genovese is the famous example that comes to mind but there's since been millions more incidents like that which are not reported. At least robuts wouldn't be coerced into going along with the thing- it's a 50/50 shot with people though.

Given the fact that hundreds of thousands if not millions of rapes happen unreported in this world annually and half of them are blamed on the victims, I'm not too concerned about gynos who probably inhabit less than 1% of the world's rapists. What're ya gonna say if the nurse/witness turns out to be in on it? We need two witnesses? Insanity.

[torker]

me two!
and there's room for 8 more

[Mullenax]

Cofy, I am saying that "a longer wait" is not a big deal when it comes to negating a position of extreme vulnerability in which some women have been victimized and presumably some innocent doctors have had costs associated with frivolous lawsuits.

AND I think women (myself included) are more likely to get the exams they need if they feel comfortable with nurse-in-the-room policies that are already in place, and that's a good thing.

Yes, it's not a cure-all, and I can cite scenarios from my own life where witnesses were no barrier at all for a sexual predator. While your friend's experience is shocking, I think we can agree it's a very different issue than profiling school shooters or the reliability of witness reports.

[jonyrotn]

I wouldn't worry about it too much, she'll get over it eventually..I know when it happened to me it took a solid year before I would go back to my dentist..
He told me he was checking my molars but I've since found out my dentist is a real practical DrJoeK-er..

I would only worry if she makes appointments everyday for the next two weeks..:ohmy:

[Chigworthy]

me too!

But aren't we meeting for drinks that night?










Oh.

[Kris10]

i've only had this done in the bedroom so it wouldn't bother me one way or the other in the office.

[Houston]

i'm thinking ask dr. steve might be a good start here. he should know if this is normal or if this is grounds for a huge law suit $$$.

i stay away from doctors for just this reason btw.
No, you stay away from doctors because your a fat bastard and your embarrassed about it.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Cofy, I am saying that "a longer wait" is not a big deal when it comes to negating a position of extreme vulnerability in which some women have been victimized and presumably some innocent doctors have had costs associated with frivolous lawsuits.

AND I think women (myself included) are more likely to get the exams they need if they feel comfortable with nurse-in-the-room policies that are already in place, and that's a good thing.

Yes, it's not a cure-all, and I can cite scenarios from my own life where witnesses were no barrier at all for a sexual predator. While your friend's experience is shocking, I think we can agree it's a very different issue than profiling school shooters or the reliability of witness reports.

Well, the 'longer wait' thing was just a sarcastic joke anyway. :-P If a longer wait made places more secure and women safer, of course I'd be up for additional hours.

[Judge Smails]

This thread is still going? You people are all obsessed with my wife's ass.