2008 VP Debate Veiwing/Listening/Drinking/Wagering Thread

[YourAmishDaddy]

How the fuck do you work and promote bipartisanship and not compromise?

[Hottub]

Just put it on mute and continue fapping, ya creep. :smile:

Stop spying on my you creep!

[oldladyfacepuncher]

Wait for it....

[HBox]

YOU APPOINTED ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PURGED EVERYONE WHO DISAGREED WITH YOU YOU DISINGENUOUS...... AAAAARRRRGGGGG!!!!!

[BeerBandit]

I'm right behind you.
She's embarassing. I almost hate myself.

[burrben]

http://www.tombraider4u.com/pictures/smurfette.jpg

[epo]

Does she even understand the fucking question?

[Hottub]

I bet her ass crack stinks from the profuse sweating.

[KnoxHarrington]

This "bashing the media" thing won't work, honey.

[Caseyelan]

I would like to add another FACE to this thread.



FACE TO YOU LISTENING THREAD... THIS SHIT IS ONLY ONE HOUR AND HOUSEDDDDD YOU IN PAGES.
EAT THAT, MAVERICK LISTENING THREAD BULLSHIT!

[brettmojo]

You Didn't Answer The Fucking Questions!!! Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

[HBox]

Wow. She turned a question on how to be bipartisan into an attack on her opponents. How tone deaf.

[burrben]

id love to see palin uncensored

[torker]

walk away sara, walk away

[Tenbatsuzen]

Does she even understand the fucking question?

At this point, I think Admiral Stockdale understands this position better.

[oldladyfacepuncher]

here come the tears

[Kevin]

No, Sarah, you don't want to do this again

[YourAmishDaddy]

No Sarah, you haven't always been proud to be an American. You have spent time promoting Alaskan independence, remember?

[biozombie]

yeah, your family is average, governor...

[Heather 8]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/13/mccain_palm.jpg

[brettmojo]

Biden to Palin,"Thanks for coming, sweetie.".

[epo]

She's proud to be an American....does she have anymore Lee Greenwood songs to quote?

[Caseyelan]

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[Hottub]

I would like to add another FACE to this thread.



FACE TO YOU LISTENING THREAD... THIS SHIT IS ONLY ONE HOUR AND HOUSEDDDDD YOU IN PAGES.
EAT THAT, MAVERICK LISTENING THREAD BULLSHIT!

Wow. That hurt, case. That hurt.:glurps:

[Friday]

I would like to add another FACE to this thread.



FACE TO YOU LISTENING THREAD... THIS SHIT IS ONLY ONE HOUR AND HOUSEDDDDD YOU IN PAGES.
EAT THAT, MAVERICK LISTENING THREAD BULLSHIT!

:unsure:

[Caseyelan]

She's proud to be an American....does she have anymore Lee Greenwood songs to quote?

I dunno, but I hope she grabs a gun and stands up.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Hope this ends with Biden patting her on the ass and saying, "Run along now, man talk."

[KnoxHarrington]

She did so badly I think it's going to be impossible to spin how she did well in any way.

Were I a masochist, I'd turn over to Fox News to see how they attempt it.

[oldladyfacepuncher]

I dunno, but I hope she grabs a gun and stands up.

And puts it in her mouth

[Hottub]

Tell us your story walkin' Toots.

[YourAmishDaddy]

The sad thing about all of this. Is that Joe Biden will only be vice president if they win.

[KatPw]

OOHHHH Hofstra, the traffic on the island should be insane that day.

[Heather 8]

Hope this ends with Biden patting her on the ass and saying, "Run along now, man talk."

Thank you nice lady. Nice ass.

[Friday]

She did so badly I think it's going to be impossible to spin how she did well in any way.

Were I a masochist, I'd turn over to Fox News to see how they attempt it.

i am there for the buckets of hilarity!

[YourAmishDaddy]

Leave her mic on.

[burrben]

he didnt talk about his boat at all :down:

[BeerBandit]

Well, it wasn't as embarassing as it could've been. She didn't answer any questions, but she didn't make a total fool of herself.

[brettmojo]

The sad thing about all of this. Is that Joe Biden will only be vice president if they win.
For a month, at best.

[Tenbatsuzen]

where's bristol?!?!

[~Katja~]

why is that baby there, doesn't she have a sitter for a night thing like that?

[Misteriosa]

Leave her mic on.

oh please oh please....

im watching c-span.. so they just might....

[HBox]

Every analyst on CNN except for Ed Rollins had this as a win for Biden.

[biozombie]

he didnt talk about his boat at all :down:

or his beach house in Rehoboth.

[KnoxHarrington]

On CBS, they're saying that Palin did not "embarass" herself, but they're also calling Palin on not answering questions, and saying Biden did well.

[GreatAmericanZero]

if Obama/Biden don't win...can i move to a country where they do lead? Then the rest of the country can go fuck themselves

[YourAmishDaddy]

I hate I ever voted for Giuliani now.

[tele7]

Thank you nice lady. Nice ass.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1977/sallyf17ro5.th.jpg

[burrben]

how can anyone say that she did well at any point during that?

[Kevin]

I Have A Baby I Have A Baby!

[epo]

if Obama/Biden don't win...can i move to a country where they do lead? Then the rest of the country can go fuck themselves

Umm...keep it on the down low....but there may be a group of us moving to Vancouver if necessary.

[Friday]

:lol:

Fox commentary:

"she seemed perfectly comfortable... she seemed to get more confident as the debate went on"

on Biden: "he wasn't very funny, he got personal and talked about being a single parent"

on Palen : " i thought she had the better of it"

[Misteriosa]

I Have A Baby I Have A Baby!

and he's a waterhead!! so i get extraa points, doonchakno!

[Heather 8]

I Have A Baby I Have A Baby!

So do I! Where's my public office?

[YourAmishDaddy]

God bless him, but David Axelrod is a boob.

[BeerBandit]

What an irresponsible parent. Downy or not, that baby should be in bed. Also, I expect to see her at the Down Syndrome Buddy Walk this Sunday.

[epo]

David Gergen just stated that Joe Biden gave the performance of his life.

Mind you Gergen is a fucking genius.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Umm...keep it on the down low....but there may be a group of us moving to Vancouver if necessary.

if you can guarantee me a job where i can afford a 1 bedroom apartment and a cable plan with an HD package, i'm in!

[commish13]

:lol:

Fox commentary:

"she seemed perfectly comfortable... she seemed to get more confident as the debate went on"

on Biden: "he wasn't very funny, he got personal and talked about being a single parent"

on Palen : " i thought she had the better of it"


Haha yeah. The first thing I heard when I flipped to FOX News was "he wasn't very funny".....

Um

yeah

[Friday]

how can anyone say that she did well at any point during that?

because politics is all about the 'spin'.

frightening, isn't it?

[Misteriosa]

they were showing the faimlies... did anyone see the preggers daughter? i was looking for her but didnt see her...

[Heather 8]

Haha yeah. The first thing I heard when I flipped to FOX News was "he wasn't very funny".....

Um

yeah

It's a debate, not a Dane Cook film, you fuckers!

[oldladyfacepuncher]

Go Cubs! Fuck blowhard!

[KnoxHarrington]

I turnedi t back to the Cubs-Dodgers game when Joe Lieberman showed up. :thumbdown:

[biozombie]

Well, Uncle Rupert wouldn't have it any other way.

[commish13]

And I now just heard the dude say that she knew at 9:55 that she was winning, and pretty much said that she got cocky.

As I saw it, she was doing almost decent up to 9:55, and then at 9:55 she completely fell apart.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Isn't it amazing after 8 years of Bush and fucking three trillion dollar budgets, and earmarks, and bailouts, and wars every other week the republican party now cares about spending..

Fucking cunts.

[TheGameHHH]

because politics is all about the 'spin'.

frightening, isn't it?

no spin here. i think she actually handled herself rather well. people were def. expecting her to look like a lost idiot up there and i think she held her own. im surprised.

[epo]

no spin here. i think she actually handled herself rather well. people were def. expecting her to look like a lost idiot up there and i think she held her own. im surprised.

General McClellan?

She's an idiot.

[hammersavage]

if you can guarantee me a job where i can afford a 1 bedroom apartment and a cable plan with an HD package, i'm in!

Can my mod quote say Team Vancouver?

[dino_electropolis]

Just got home from an engagement i had to attend :furious: and missed the debate.

Can someone please sum it up, in say, a haiku?

[Friday]

they were showing the faimlies... did anyone see the preggers daughter? i was looking for her but didnt see her...

please. like they would put her pregnant and showing daughter into the public eye?
not so much.

though Palin is allegedly so proud that they are taking the proper road and marrying. blablablabla

[DarkHippie]

What an irresponsible parent. Downy or not, that baby should be in bed. Also, I expect to see her at the Down Syndrome Buddy Walk this Sunday.

she's a bad mommy

[booster11373]

She won it if you consider her not having a complete meltdown as a win

[GreatAmericanZero]

no spin here. i think she actually handled herself rather well. people were def. expecting her to look like a lost idiot up there and i think she held her own. im surprised.

see, i think thats a "hayseed expectation" when people thought she'd just shit the bed like a retard...yes she is a politician..but her performance there wasnt anything that any governor or senator couldnt have pulled off

[brettmojo]

FOX NEWS: Palin doesn't have to know how to be president on day 1.

Yeah, she does. That's the job of VP from day one, to be president if need be.

So it's ok for her to need on the job training but Barack no? Ok.

I can't watch FOX news, Ronnie B is right. We're all sick.

[Friday]

Just got home from an engagement i had to attend :furious: and missed the debate.

Can someone please sum it up, in say, a haiku?

Palin is a dolt.
Biden housed that ass, oh yes.
Put it in the books!

[El Mudo]

General McClellan?

She's an idiot.


http://www.paradoxmind.com/1301/Civil%20War/George%20B.%20McClellan.jpg

Army of the Potomac FTW

[Kevin]

All you woman are all traitors. YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN...


RIGHT?

[KnoxHarrington]

General McClellan?

She's an idiot.

I can see how, on first blush, someone might say that she didn't do so badly, she held up, etc., mostly because expectations for her were so low. But I think that her performance will be seen as worse and worse the more people look at it.

[HBox]

CNN's group has it I'd say about 60-40 for Biden.

And about 6 people made their decision on who to vote for and only one said McCain.

[brettmojo]

Isn't it amazing after 8 years of Bush and fucking three trillion dollar budgets, and earmarks, and bailouts, and wars every other week the republican party now cares about spending..

Fucking cunts.
Cause' that's what you wanna' hear.

[Friday]

All you woman are all traitors. YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN...


RIGHT?

Nay.

[Kevin]

CNN's group has it I'd say about 60-40 for Biden.

Who are the idiot 40?

[Misteriosa]

General McClellan?

She's an idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._McClellan

:lol:

[brettmojo]

Wow I think that lone MCCain/Palin supporter at the CNN focus group is doing her Palin impression.

[Heather 8]

All you woman are all traitors. YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN...


RIGHT?

But-but... my "white guilt" says I have to vote for Obama.

I'm so confused!

[mikeyboy]

This CNN post-game thing with the undecideds is a clusterfuck.

[El Mudo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._McClellan

:lol:



Did she really bring up Gen'l McClellan? In what context?

[PhilDeez]

CNN's group has it I'd say about 60-40 for Biden.

And about 6 people made their decision on who to vote for and only one said McCain.

Fox focus group was split - according to them - before the debate. An overwhelming majority, almost all, were for Palin afterward.

[epo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._McClellan

:lol:

I'm embarrassed for her on that answer. Hell, even Hottub gave up.

[MacVittie]

CNN.com poll has 76%-22% in favor of Biden winning the debate.

[Misteriosa]

Did she really bring up Gen'l McClellan? In what context?

im thinking she might have meant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_McClellan

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_D._McKiernan

[Heather 8]

Fox focus group was split - according to them - before the debate. An overwhelming majority, almost all, were for Palin afterward.

Shit, they don't even try to pretend anymore.

[Brad_Rush]

Fox focus group was split - according to them - before the debate. An overwhelming majority, almost all, were for Palin afterward.

They also had it at the Busch headquarters... I am not surprised that Busch drinkers are republican-leaning.

[El Mudo]

Well the General DID run for president in 1864 as a Democrat...and was the Governor of New Jersey for a couple terms

[PhilDeez]

Shit, they don't even try to pretend anymore.

In defense, last week the group was split before hand, and went over for Obama. Maybe the people are plants, I doubt it. I think it just goes to prove each network/publication/person is going to spin this to their own advantage.

[TheGameHHH]

General McClellan?

She's an idiot.

i dont see how slipping on a last name, the two names do sound similar, makes you an idiot. if she actually believed a civil war general was still alive and commanding our troops in Afghanstan then yes, she would be an idiot. but im sure you've slipped up words/names before, it doesnt make you an idiot.

[epo]

This is hilarious....MSNBC doesn't even care, running a new Countdown with Keith right now.

[TheGameHHH]

see, i think thats a "hayseed expectation" when people thought she'd just shit the bed like a retard...yes she is a politician..but her performance there wasnt anything that any governor or senator couldnt have pulled off

i agree, you should be able to pull these kinds of things off as a politician obviously. what i mean is that it showed people she could do it cause she's a fit politician.

[NickyL0885]

Pat Buchanan must be losing it. After the debate, he said Palin wiped the floor with Biden and that she didn't do a thing wrong.

[Drunky McBetidont]

i hate palin more than ever. its all coming off the mother-fucking rails.:drunk:

i did like when she called him o'biden though:lol:

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

[Hottub]

http://www.paradoxmind.com/1301/Civil%20War/George%20B.%20McClellan.jpg

Army of the Potomac FTW

The greatest army ever assembled, that did nothing until the gentleman from New jersey was removed.

EPIC FAIL!

[El Mudo]

i hate palin more than ever. its all coming off the mother-fucking rails.:drunk:

i did like when she called him o'biden though:lol:

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.



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[dino_electropolis]

Palin is a dolt.
Biden housed that ass, oh yes.
Put it in the books!

Omg....your awesome!!! :thumbup:

well crafted and with a happy ending.....


mmmmmm....happy ending.

[epo]

i agree, you should be able to pull these kinds of things off as a politician obviously. what i mean is that it showed people she could do it cause she's a fit politician.

You mean a politician who declares within the first ten minutes of a debate with "I may not answer the questions the way you or the moderator want to hear"...pretty much means that she's an idiot.

[Drunky McBetidont]

And you can be my bodyguard

you can call me betty when you call me out, call me out

[dino_electropolis]

She won it if you consider her not having a complete meltdown as a win

I do, so i guess she won.

[epo]

I do, so i guess she won.

If you mean that she didn't breakdown like new Lilly....then yep, she did great.

By any other measure...she was a damned fool.

[dino_electropolis]

If you mean that she didn't breakdown like new Lilly....then yep, she did great.

By any other measure...she was a damned fool.

Poor Rirry.

[HBox]

CNN Poll:

Biden 51 Palin 36

How did Biden against your expectations?
Better 64
Worse 14
Same 20

How did Palin do against your expectations?
Better 84
Worse 7
Same 8

Is Palin qualified to be President?
Before debate: Yes 42 No 54
After: Yes 46 No 53

[Drunky McBetidont]

CNN Poll:

Biden 51 Palin 36

How did Biden against your expectations?
Better 64
Worse 14
Same 20

How did Palin do against your expectations?
Better 84
Worse 7
Same 8

Is Palin qualified to SWALLOW MY LOAD?
Before debate: Yes 42 No 54
After: Yes 99 No 01 (fez voted too)

.

[EffMeBoobs]

If I heard "My state Alaska" one more time tonight, I swear to god I was going to throw a bottle at my projector.

[TheGameHHH]

You mean a politician who declares within the first ten minutes of a debate with "I may not answer the questions the way you or the moderator want to hear"...pretty much means that she's an idiot.

i gotta get your definition of idiot cause i'm not 100% certain you're using it properly.

[dino_electropolis]

CNN Poll:

Biden 51 Palin 36

How did Biden against your expectations?
Better 64
Worse 14
Same 20

How did Palin do against your expectations?
Better 84
Worse 7
Same 8

Is Palin qualified to be President?
Before debate: Yes 42 No 54
After: Yes 46 No 53

This poll is meaningless if its not the same people being polled.....right?

[dino_electropolis]

i gotta get your definition of idiot cause i'm not 100% certain you're using it properly.

i sorta agree......may be out of context...her statement may have meant, "you might not like my answer, but my answer is......"

[HBox]

CNN Poll:

Who was more in touch with your problems?
Biden 70
Palin 21

Who seemed more like a typical politician?
Biden 70
Palin 21

Who is more likely to bring change?
Biden 53
Palin 42

[HBox]

This poll is meaningless if its not the same people being polled.....right?

Are you talking about the before and after because those were the same people.

[yojimbo7248]

This poll is meaningless if its not the same people being polled.....right?

I was going to vote for Obama before the VP debate but Palin completely convinced me to switch sides. Thanks, Sarah.

[TheGameHHH]

i sorta agree......may be out of context...her statement may have meant, "you might not like my answer, but my answer is......"

exactly

[Drunky McBetidont]

I was going to vote for Obama before the VP debate but Palin completely convinced me to switch sides. Thanks, Sarah.

now you are gay?

she said she supports gays but still doesn't think they should marry.

[epo]

i gotta get your definition of idiot cause i'm not 100% certain you're using it properly.

She was an idiot because she couldn't answer the damned questions that were being asked. Instead she had to admit that she was gonna reframe EVERYTHING to her pre-programmed answers.

[HBox]

i sorta agree......may be out of context...her statement may have meant, "you might not like my answer, but my answer is......"

You are over thinking it. They told her to include a shot at the media in there and that's where she shoe-horned it in. That's all it was.

[mikeyboy]

If you mean that she didn't breakdown like new Lilly....then yep, she did great.



So, did Palin become the V.P. candidate to make friends?

[Friday]

i gotta get your definition of idiot cause i'm not 100% certain you're using it properly.

in a debate you are asked to follow certain guidelines... such as answering the moderators questions...which are meant to maintain an even playing field.

whenever the questions veered away from the talking points Palin had been extensively coached on, she stated that she would not directly answer the question, but would instead focus on another issue or aspect.

the inability to improvise and use your own knowledge and common sense to answer a question directly equals idiocy if you are running for top-level public office.

but hey, that's just my opinion. :bye:

[epo]

So, did Palin become the V.P. candidate to make friends?

Alaska is a commuter state and all of the girls are mean.

[mikeyboy]

i sorta agree......may be out of context...her statement may have meant, "you might not like my answer, but my answer is......"

Not really. It was in response to a statement that she wasn't answering the questions posed.

[Drunky McBetidont]

sarah palin < new lilly

[mikeyboy]

Alaska is a commuter state and all of the girls are mean.

:lol:

[HBox]

CBS Poll:
Biden 46
Palin 21
undecided 33

18 percent committed to Obama, 10 to McCain, 71 still undecided.

[dino_electropolis]

Not really. It was in response to a statement that she wasn't answering the questions posed.

Are you shittin me?

Wow, and here i was giving her the benefit of the doubt....perhaps just a result of my faith in humanity in general.

Not the first time its let me down.


This chick is over her head.

[TheGameHHH]

in a debate you are asked to follow certain guidelines... such as answering the moderators questions...which are meant to maintain an even playing field.

whenever the questions veered away from the talking points Palin had been extensively coached on, she stated that she would not directly answer the question, but would instead focus on another issue or aspect.

the inability to improvise and use your own knowledge and common sense to answer a question directly equals idiocy if you are running for top-level public office.

but hey, that's just my opinion. :bye:

i remember in 2004 both Kerry and Bush each did that at least two times during debates. does that make them both idiots? im pissed i have to include Bush in this example because the man is clearly an idiot, but still. the inability to improvise makes you an unskilled orator, poor actor and showcases an inability to think on your feet. none of that makes you an idiot. but hey, thats just my opinion. no wave from me

[Drunky McBetidont]

Are you shittin me?

Wow, and here i was giving her the benefit of the doubt....perhaps just a result of my faith in humanity in general.

Not the first time its let me down.


This chick should be giving us all head.

while we take turns holding her stump of a baby.

[dino_electropolis]

i remember in 2004 both Kerry and Bush each did that at least two times during debates. does that make them both idiots? im pissed i have to include Bush in this example because the man is clearly an idiot, but still. the inability to improvise makes you an unskilled orator, poor actor and showcases an inability to think on your feet. none of that makes you an idiot. but hey, thats just my opinion. no wave from me

I dunno.....i think she's an idiot.

[dino_electropolis]

while we take turns holding her stump of a baby.

Methinks you misquoted me, good sir....and i thank you for it!

[TheGameHHH]

I dunno.....i think she's an idiot.

fair enough, i have no use in debating anyway as i have zero politicial ties to a party. plus lets be honest, is it really worth debating the outcomes of the VICE debates?

[brettmojo]

i remember in 2004 both Kerry and Bush each did that at least two times during debates. does that make them both idiots? im pissed i have to include Bush in this example because the man is clearly an idiot, but still. the inability to improvise makes you an unskilled orator, poor actor and showcases an inability to think on your feet. none of that makes you an idiot. but hey, thats just my opinion. no wave from me
So thank god as VP or president she'd never have to think on her feet. We wouldn't want that from a world leader.

[dino_electropolis]

fair enough, i have no use in debating anyway as i have zero politicial ties to a party. plus lets be honest, is it really worth debating the outcomes of the VICE debates?

No.....that would be idiotic.

[epo]

fair enough, i have no use in debating anyway as i have zero politicial ties to a party. plus lets be honest, is it really worth debating the outcomes of the VICE debates?

Honestly HHH....even Hottub admitted defeat for McCain/Palin tonight. This shit is over.

[epo]

So thank god as VP or president she'd never have to think on her feet. We wouldn't want that from a world leader.

And we've got the young John McCain as the Republican nominee!

What?

Oh NO!

[TheGameHHH]

So thank god as VP or president she'd never have to think on her feet. We wouldn't want that from a world leader.

you do raise a solid point there but there arent really a lot of times when world leaders "think on their feet". most moves are carefully planned and orchastrated through advisors and such. debates are one of those few times when you really need to showcase that "think on your feet" ability.

[dino_electropolis]

So thank god as VP or president she'd never have to think on her feet. We wouldn't want that from a world leader.

Oddly, i cant stop thinkin about how she would be on her back to ever wonder about how she thinks on her feet.

[TheGameHHH]

Honestly HHH....even Hottub admitted defeat for McCain/Palin tonight. This shit is over.

im unsure why i have to admit defeat or declare victory for anybody.

[mikeyboy]

you do raise a solid point there but there arent really a lot of times when world leaders "think on their feet". most moves are carefully planned and orchastrated through advisors and such. debates are one of those few times when you really need to showcase that "think on your feet" ability.

I'm not sure I agree with that. On a day to day basis, sure, but in a time of crisis, it's an entirely different animal. One of the commentators on CNN brought up 9/11 and the fact that Bush was being flown from place to place and Cheney had to deal with the the authority for shooting down planes still in the sky. I think you have to evaluate a VP from the worst case scenario. God forbid it happens, but you do need to keep it in mind.

[dino_electropolis]

I'm not sure I agree with that. On a day to day basis, sure, but in a time of crisis, it's an entirely different animal. One of the commentators on CNN brought up 9/11 and the fact that Bush was being flown from place to place and Cheney had to deal with the the authority for shooting down planes still in the sky. I think you have to evaluate a VP from the worst case scenario. God forbid it happens, but you do need to keep it in mind.

Agreed.

And we shouldnt undermine the importance of the vp....i mean, after all, the vp has been running the country for the last 8 years.

[epo]

There was an actual human moment in this debate and it was when Senator Biden mentioned his family and his time as a single parent. Here it is:

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This was a genuine moment that Palin could have humanized herself by talking about her family and the difficulties a large family, the stresses of balancing work & life and even her youngest child.

Instead....talking point....MAVERICK!

Just stop Governor Palin, you're embarrassing yourself.

[TheGameHHH]

I'm not sure I agree with that. On a day to day basis, sure, but in a time of crisis, it's an entirely different animal. One of the commentators on CNN brought up 9/11 and the fact that Bush was being flown from place to place and Cheney had to deal with the the authority for shooting down planes still in the sky. I think you have to evaluate a VP from the worst case scenario. God forbid it happens, but you do need to keep it in mind.

absolutely, it does need to be kept in mind but it's really not essential. 9/11 is a serious extreme example, things like that don't happen everyday. as i was typing my last post 9/11 was one of the only things that popped into my head in terms of other instances of thinking on your feet. one other was when meeting with other world leaders behind closed doors.

even with a situation like 9/11, where every second mattered, i'd still reason to say Cheney has a couple minutes to really start making decisions. if Palin or Biden had several minutes to think about every question then they would both give better answers.

[dino_electropolis]

There was an actual human moment in this debate and it was when Senator Biden mentioned his family and his time as a single parent. Here it is:

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This was a genuine moment that Palin could have humanized herself by talking about her family and the difficulties a large family, the stresses of balancing work & life and even her youngest child.

Instead....talking point....MAVERICK!

Just stop Governor Palin, you're embarrassing yourself.

Wow....you hit it right on the head.

The cold sow didnt even show the slightest empathy for Biden's story.






She should have pulled out the retard-baby card.

[epo]

Also Biden did a tremendous job of making the debate about Obama vs. McCain, while Palin tried to save herself. I simply don't understand that line of approach in a VP debate. Whenever Palin attacked it didn't make sense...as we didn't know her point of view, while we absolutely knew Biden's point-of-view. Here was a tremendous moment for him:

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She simply isn't ready for this stage, while this is the stage that Senator Biden belongs on.

[brettmojo]

Wow....you hit it right on the head.

The cold sow didnt even show the slightest empathy for Biden's story.






She should have pulled out the retard-baby card.
Wasn't in the script.

[brettmojo]

Also Biden did a tremendous job of making the debate about Obama vs. McCain, while Palin tried to save herself. I simply don't understand that line of approach in a VP debate. Whenever Palin attacked it didn't make sense...as we didn't know her point of view, while we absolutely knew Biden's point-of-view. Here was a tremendous moment for him:

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She simply isn't ready for this stage, while this is the stage that Senator Biden belongs on.
And it was like he was taking that pen in his hand and stabbing McCain's campaign in the heart with it.

[epo]

And it was like he was taking that pen in his hand and stabbing McCain's campaign in the heart with it.

Actually that was this moment:

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Honestly, in retrospect, Biden did exactly what he had to do tonight and did it well. And here is the thing...Joe Biden will almost always fuck up with some gaffe...but the tightened time limits of the debate actually favored Biden, rather than Governor Palin. Biden was forced to be tighter in his answer and didn't press...while she couldn't demonstrate in 90 seconds-2 minutes that she knew her shit.

[thejives]

I'm a homer, sure.
But that was great stuff from Biden. He took on McCain in a big way and didn't come off as condescending toward Palin at all.

[tele7]

There was an actual human moment in this debate and it was when Senator Biden mentioned his family and his time as a single parent. Here it is:

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This was a genuine moment that Palin could have humanized herself by talking about her family and the difficulties a large family, the stresses of balancing work & life and even her youngest child.

Instead....talking point....MAVERICK!

Just stop Governor Palin, you're embarrassing yourself.

Two words: Fucking Ponderous!!

[Kevin]

From CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
51 percent say Democratic Sen. Joe Biden wins vice presidential debate- Duh..
Republican Gov. Sarah Palin exceeds expectations, They must have had very very very very low expectations of her.
84 percent say-Palin beats Biden on likability, 54-36- Fuck likability.
87 percent say Biden is qualified for job, 42 percent say Palin is- That is the most important stat to me. Fuck likability. Who can get the job done. That is a HUGE margine