Babygirl call to New Lilly was the most pathetic complaint ever.

[LordJezo]

What kind of female rage and jealousy prompted that call?

Babygirl complaining that New Lilly didn't sit silent and only speak when spoken to?

What kind of nonsense is that?

So a new girl is taking it upon herself to get noticed, be active, and stand out from the people who "only come in when invited" and just sit there and that's a reason to call her names?

A bit pathetic on BGs part. Sounds more like her angry that someone is doing something for herself instead of having to latch onto others for attention.

[TjM]

Highschool bull shit that's what it is

[realmenhatelife]

It's all dumb girl shit, they are so insanely territorial.

[DOHO@HOME]

Babygirl wants to be able to call in and say cunt maybe because she is a cunt:lol:
Or she needs to be deep dicked in her cunt and the dicken she getting isn't deep enough for her?

[KnoxHarrington]

That whole posse sounds kind of pathetic and self-delusional to me anyway.

You're just fucking listeners. The show is not about you. The show might be better off without you.

[A.J.]

She should have called Piano's instead.

[midwestjeff]

She should have called Piano's instead.

Yeah but they don't know her, they know Danny. They're big fans of the show.

[NewYorkDragons80]

That whole posse sounds kind of pathetic and self-delusional to me anyway.

You're just fucking listeners. The show is not about you. The show might be better off without you.

:clap:

What do you expect? She sleeps at Anthony's house, dates Danny, and nobody's ever told her she anything less than the hottest girl on earth. Of course she'd have a warped sense of entitlement that deludes her into thinking she's actually a part of the show.

[Dash77]

It's all dumb girl shit, they are so insanely territorial.

QFT

[Devo37]

Babygirl wants to be able to call in and say cunt maybe because she is a cunt:lol:
Or she needs to be deep dicked in her cunt and the dicken she getting isn't deep enough for her?

thank god this is an XL message board!

[KnoxHarrington]

:clap:

What do you expect? She sleeps at Anthony's house, dates Danny, and nobody's ever told her she anything less than the hottest girl on earth. Of course she'd have a warped sense of entitlement that deludes her into thinking she's actually a part of the show.


I loved when she said something about how it's a "select" group to get to go to Anthony's house. Like it's the Studio 54 of the new millennium.

I think you had to do a bit more than flash your tits on some cheesy website to get in there.

[spainlinx0]

It just seems funny to me that these girls are basically calling out New Lilly for being an attention whore, when being an attention whore is what got these girls noticed in the first place. It really is petty jealous bullshit.

[suggums]

:clap:

What do you expect? She sleeps at Anthony's house, dates Danny, and nobody's ever told her she anything less than the hottest girl on earth. Of course she'd have a warped sense of entitlement that deludes her into thinking she's actually a part of the show.

fuckin winner man. and the pianos bit sucked since day one.

[chubbyknuckles]

She should have called Piano's instead.

Will you call piano's....for me?

[Houston]

I miss Melinda. She's the best.

[NewYorkDragons80]

It just seems funny to me that these girls are basically calling out New Lilly for being an attention whore, when being an attention whore is what got these girls noticed in the first place. It really is petty jealous bullshit.

I won't disparage Old Lilly, cause I really do think she's talented, has an impeccable radio voice, and brings unique perspective to the show. But you hit the nail on the head about Babygirl. New Lilly might be an "attention whore" (in the sense that she persisted in showing up and finally got an internship), but what does that make Babygirl? Presumably, New Lilly at least does production and fetches coffee behind the scenes.

But Ron's effort to cheer her up was brilliant. "There's only one tail for me, and that's a beaver tail my friend."

[underdog]

She sleeps at Anthony's house, dates Danny, and nobody's ever told her she anything less than the hottest girl on earth.

Someone once called her a raccoon.

[RoseBlood]

But you hit the nail on the head about Babygirl. New Lilly might be an "attention whore" (in the sense that she persisted in showing up and finally got an internship), but what does that make Babygirl? Presumably, New Lilly at least does production and fetches coffee behind the scenes.

I haven't listened to the show so I can only base my opinion on what I've read here but it seems to be that if she's guilty of being an attention whore at least she's doing it out of motivation to make something of her life rather then seeking attention for having a faux sense of celebrity based on nothing other then being a fan of a radio show and showing her tits on cam.

[debit]

Any pictures of Babygirl?

[mildly amusing]

:clap:

What do you expect? She sleeps at Anthony's house, dates Danny, and nobody's ever told her she anything less than the hottest girl on earth. Of course she'd have a warped sense of entitlement that deludes her into thinking she's actually a part of the show.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2mwfl37.jpg

[happytypinggirl]

I haven't listened to the show so I can only base my opinion on what I've read here but it seems to be that if she's guilty of being an attention whore at least she's doing it out of motivation to make something of her life rather then seeking attention for having a faux sense of celebrity based on nothing other then being a fan of a radio show and showing her tits on cam.


how is new lilly doing something out of motivation to make something out of her life? did anyone actually hear the show yesterday? she isnt an intern. she isnt someone going into radio. didnt she say she started showing up at the studio because she was looking to make new friends?

edit: sorry i just noticed that you didnt listen to the show. so modify the above ever so slightly.

and pleaaaaaaaaaaaase can we not start with the attention whore dealio? before we all start to forget that we listen to a radio show that seeks, invites, encourages listener participation? sigh.

[DarkHippie]

New Lilly is not an attention whore. She is an intern on a radio show, doing her job. If Ron didn't want her to talk, she wouldn't be talking.

Fuck that "Heathers' Clique"

[King Hippos Bandaid]

she isnt an intern. she isnt someone going into radio. didnt she say she started showing up at the studio because she was looking to make new friends?



wow that's single white female creepy. whats next, is she going to make her hair look exactly like Old Lilly

[happytypinggirl]

New Lilly is not an attention whore. She is an intern on a radio show, doing her job. If Ron didn't want her to talk, she wouldn't be talking.

Fuck that "Heathers' Clique"

im PRETTY sure she's not an intern.

[spainlinx0]

how is new lilly doing something out of motivation to make something out of her life? did anyone actually hear the show yesterday? she isnt an intern. she isnt someone going into radio. didnt she say she started showing up at the studio because she was looking to make new friends?

edit: sorry i just noticed that you didnt listen to the show. so modify the above ever so slightly.

and pleaaaaaaaaaaaase can we not start with the attention whore dealio? before we all start to forget that we listen to a radio show that seeks, invites, encourages listener participation? sigh.

We started the attention whore thing because people were claiming New Lilly was one, and we were pointing out she wasn't alone.

[boobieman]

Can't we all just snowball and get along....two snowball references in 2 day...Guess I have a fetish.



SSSEEEYAYAYAAAAAAAAA

[happytypinggirl]

We started the attention whore thing because people were claiming New Lilly was one, and we were pointing out she wasn't alone.

fair enough. but why call bg or anyone else one?

[realmenhatelife]

New Lillies motivation for being on the show is really pathetic, and thats why it bothers me that some people are so abusive to her. If you want to talk about New Lilly being a retard I have no problem with that. But listening to new Lilly essentially say she is enamoured with the show and desperately seeking companionship and then get bashed is too much.
If the people that are in charge of the show really minded her being around they wouldnt let her up much less put her on mic.

[LordJezo]

how is new lilly doing something out of motivation to make something out of her life? did anyone actually hear the show yesterday? she isnt an intern. she isnt someone going into radio. didnt she say she started showing up at the studio because she was looking to make new friends?

edit: sorry i just noticed that you didnt listen to the show. so modify the above ever so slightly.

and pleaaaaaaaaaaaase can we not start with the attention whore dealio? before we all start to forget that we listen to a radio show that seeks, invites, encourages listener participation? sigh.

Babygirl's whole angle was that New Lilly wasn't just sitting quietly watching the show like everyone else. How is NL taking the initiative to do something for herself a bad thing? If anything it makes Babygirl and everyone else who just sits there look a little pathetic. New girl comes in and is noticed instantly instead of sitting back for a while before someone has to go to them.

[angrymissy]

fair enough. but why call bg or anyone else one?

Because she called in and basically insinuated that New Lilly was an attention whore so that opened up the whole pot/kettle dealie.

[KnoxHarrington]

fair enough. but why call bg or anyone else one?

So New Lilly got what she deserved, right?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I miss HTG.

[AKA]

That whole posse sounds kind of pathetic and self-delusional to me anyway. - You're just fucking listeners. The show is not about you. The show might be better off without you.

fuckin winner man. and the pianos bit sucked since day one.

Fuck that "Heathers' Clique"
It just seems funny to me that these girls are basically calling out New Lilly for being an attention whore, when being an attention whore is what got these girls noticed in the first place. It really is petty jealous bullshit.

http://valdefierro.com/amen02.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://valdefierro.com/amen02.jpg

I miss Sherman Hemsley.

[JerseyJew]

New Lilly is not an attention whore. She is an intern on a radio show, doing her job. If Ron didn't want her to talk, she wouldn't be talking.

Fuck that "Heathers' Clique"

QFT!!!

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I miss Sherman Hemsley.

he would stop this fighting with ease

[happytypinggirl]

So New Lilly got what she deserved, right?

its not up to me to say what anyone deserves, but i'll say this... new lilly should not be surprised by the reaction she got, given the way she behaved.

yea i admit, by the end of the day I started to feel kind of bad about how much she was piled on, but she showed up in this new environment, where she wasn't exactly invited (as far as i can tell), firing on all cylindars, and with a 'hey, look out, im the new cunt around here' attitude. It looks like everyone forgot some of the pretty bold things she's been saying and doing since she arrived last week. She's been more than a tiny bit aggressive and not in a friendly way, particularly toward old lilly.

so i guess i'd say its no shock that people didnt warm up to that.

[MisterSmith]

how is new lilly doing something out of motivation to make something out of her life? did anyone actually hear the show yesterday? she isnt an intern. she isnt someone going into radio. didnt she say she started showing up at the studio because she was looking to make new friends?

edit: sorry i just noticed that you didnt listen to the show. so modify the above ever so slightly.

and pleaaaaaaaaaaaase can we not start with the attention whore dealio? before we all start to forget that we listen to a radio show that seeks, invites, encourages listener participation? sigh.

I think this is the point that is frustrating me the most; Ron & Fez have a long history of making friends and bringing them onto the show. This case is no different. New Lilly visited the show, and although there was some confusion about who she was and how she got there, Ron invited her to be on air.

All of the hoopla is because Old Lilly and the other "mean girls" that have called in are territorial and feel threatened. New Lilly isn't part of the mainstream community but she was asked to participate anyway. I wish I was that lucky.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I miss Mean Joe Greene.

[MisterSmith]

I miss Mean Joe Greene.

I miss Frietag.



Why aren't you at work? :laugh:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Why aren't you at work? :laugh:


Working from home. Rocking two laptops at once, plus getting stuff ready for the Avon Walk tomorrow + other assorted junk.

[KnoxHarrington]

its not up to me to say what anyone deserves, but i'll say this... new lilly should not be surprised by the reaction she got, given the way she behaved.

yea i admit, by the end of the day I started to feel kind of bad about how much she was piled on, but she showed up in this new environment, where she wasn't exactly invited (as far as i can tell), firing on all cylindars, and with a 'hey, look out, im the new cunt around here' attitude. It looks like everyone forgot some of the pretty bold things she's been saying and doing since she arrived last week. She's been more than a tiny bit aggressive and not in a friendly way, particularly toward old lilly.

so i guess i'd say its no shock that people didnt warm up to that.

So I guess calling her a "chinky cunt" is fine.

That was uncalled for on any level, and I'm ashamed of Ron for letting it on the air.

[happytypinggirl]

I think this is the point that is frustrating me the most; Ron & Fez have a long history of making friends and bringing them onto the show. This case is no different. New Lilly visited the show, and although there was some confusion about who she was and how she got there, Ron invited her to be on air.

All of the hoopla is because Old Lilly and the other "mean girls" that have called in are territorial and feel threatened. New Lilly isn't part of the mainstream community but she was asked to participate anyway. I wish I was that lucky.

nobody is complaining that she participated. but come on, she has said some brutal stuff over the last few days. i dont know who the mean girls are anymore-- i guess its thrown out to any girl who people are unhappy with these days. But you're getting mad at a few girls (i assume old lilly and b.g.) for talking to new lillyl in the same manner that new lilly was talking to them.

new lilly said some REALLY mean girl type things. new lilly ADMITTED she approached jiven just to piss off classic lilly's buttons. she's jumped into the fire FIRING. why do you expect everyone else to greet her with a hug and a basket of 'welcome to the neighborhood' muffins?

if you poke at a bees nest with a stick, you get angry bees.

[MisterSmith]

its not up to me to say what anyone deserves, but i'll say this... new lilly should not be surprised by the reaction she got, given the way she behaved.

yea i admit, by the end of the day I started to feel kind of bad about how much she was piled on, but she showed up in this new environment, where she wasn't exactly invited (as far as i can tell), firing on all cylindars, and with a 'hey, look out, im the new cunt around here' attitude. It looks like everyone forgot some of the pretty bold things she's been saying and doing since she arrived last week. She's been more than a tiny bit aggressive and not in a friendly way, particularly toward old lilly.

so i guess i'd say its no shock that people didnt warm up to that.

But there have been plenty of aggressive people on the show, of course most of them have been guys. Fred from Brooklyn, ESD, Crazed, and others have aggressive, psychotically persistent, and/or abrasive personalities but they have been friends of the show and Ron has asked them to be on-air (or a producer). Lover them or hate them, they were asked to be on the show.

OK, maybe New Lilly got a little ahead of herself and thought she was more important to the show than she actually is. But that is no reason for the amazing level of venom and insult that was and has been hurled her way. It is people in a clique being jerks.

[happytypinggirl]

So I guess calling her a "chinky cunt" is fine.

That was uncalled for on any level, and I'm ashamed of Ron for letting it on the air.

actually that was shocking. i sat there with my mouth open for a full minute after that. totally unexpected. and i have to admit, i was just waiting to hear what she would say next.

[happytypinggirl]

But there have been plenty of aggressive people on the show, of course most of them have been guys. Fred from Brooklyn, ESD, Crazed, and others have aggressive, psychotically persistent, and/or abrasive personalities but they have been friends of the show and Ron has asked them to be on-air (or a producer). Lover them or hate them, they were asked to be on the show.

OK, maybe New Lilly got a little ahead of herself and thought she was more important to the show than she actually is. But that is no reason for the amazing level of venom and insult that was and has been hurled her way. It is people in a clique being jerks.

ok here's what i saw.

new lilly came in and attacked classic lilly and acted in a way that was inappropriate and uncalled for. classic lily fought back. classic lilys friends, were shocked and annoyed, and called in and told new lilly how they felt.

ok im going to shut up for awhile and let some other people post. im crowding this thread.

[angrymissy]

I think this is all somehow Deb's fault.

[KnoxHarrington]

ok here's what i saw.

new lilly came in and attacked classic lilly and acted in a way that was inappropriate and uncalled for. classic lily fought back. classic lilys friends, were shocked and annoyed, and called in and told new lilly how they felt.

ok im going to shut up for awhile and let some other people post. im crowding this thread.




I find it incredible that you find what New Lilly said "inappropriate" and have no problem with the vicious, vile, and often brutally racist shit thrown at her.

Astounding.

[Don Stugots]

I miss Mean Joe Greene.

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[King Hippos Bandaid]

I find it incredible that you find what New Lilly said "inappropriate" and have no problem with the vicious, vile, and often brutally racist shit thrown at her.

Astounding.

thank god the Virus is an XL channel

[Earlshog]

wow that's single Asain female creepy. whats next, is she going to make her hair look exactly like Old Lilly

fixed

[TjM]

I find it incredible that you find what New Lilly said "inappropriate" and have no problem with the vicious, vile, and often brutally racist shit thrown at her.

Astounding.

Why would you she's part of the hip in crowd

[happytypinggirl]

Why would you she's part of the hip in crowd

oh god, now my opinion isnt valid because i am friends with some people?

and what hip in crowd is that? b.g. hates me, frenchy thinks im a cunt, fred has called me every name in the book, im not in the chez cumia crowd, and everyone knows i have no fear of being critical of classic lilly when i think she's wrong about something.

so which of the people involved am i so tight with that you think my opinion is biased?

[RAAMONE]

oh god, now my opinion isnt valid because i am friends with some people?

and what hip in crowd is that? b.g. hates me, frenchy thinks im a cunt, fred has called me every name in the book, and everyone knows i have no fear of being critical of classic lilly when i think she's wrong about something.

so which of the people involved am i so tight with that you think my opinion is biased?

he kinda has a point though...i dont really have an opinion on this whole lilly thing

but my friend could walk up to an old lady and punch her in the head and i'd probably come up with a reason as to why she had it coming

edit: nevermind, i just read that shes not your friend

[Caseyelan]

What the shit is a mean girl anyhow?

I think that just about applies to any chick.... When I believe it was just Deb, Missy, Silera and I at the start.

Man alive it's nice to not be involved in one of these squabbles.

LESSON LEARNED!

[angrymissy]

What the shit is a mean girl anyhow?

I think that just about applies to any chick.... When I believe it was just Deb, Missy, Silera and I at the start.

Man alive it's nice to not be involved in one of these squabbles.

LESSON LEARNED!

HIGH FIVE

[Don Stugots]

oh god, now my opinion isnt valid because i am friends with some people?

and what hip in crowd is that? b.g. hates me, frenchy thinks im a cunt, fred has called me every name in the book, im not in the chez cumia crowd, and everyone knows i have no fear of being critical of classic lilly when i think she's wrong about something.

so which of the people involved am i so tight with that you think my opinion is biased?

http://www.scsv.nevada.edu/~susanb/jblog/archives/MagElitist.jpg

(deb, you know i love you, but i couldn't resist)

[happytypinggirl]

What the shit is a mean girl anyhow?

I think that just about applies to any chick.... When I believe it was just Deb, Missy, Silera and I at the start.

Man alive it's nice to not be involved in one of these squabbles.

LESSON LEARNED!

HIGH FIVE

hahaha! im trying to figure out if we've passed over the mean girl torch, or if everyone hears a girl talk and cant differentiate between all of us, so we all get the blame for anything any chick says.

[RoseBlood]

Oh Wow.. I really should listen to the show before I post. After reading through the rest of this thread, I'm seeing there's more to this story then I initially thought. Boy, I feel dumb.

I have no objections to people fighting a good battle or calling people out but, if racial slurs were uttered, to me that is the lowest and weakest insult you can throw at someone.. utterly disgusting and I have little tolerance for it.

[Dougie Brootal]

STOP IT!!!! ALL OF YOU!!!!!



everyone knows HTG is infallible.

[~Katja~]

I find it incredible that you find what New Lilly said "inappropriate" and have no problem with the vicious, vile, and often brutally racist shit thrown at her.

Astounding.

how is it different from the brutal and racists things thrown at pretty much any "friend of the show" and show character every now and then (thank god it is an XL channel) ... arab comments at Lilly... black comments at earl... it's not uncommon to the show. it's all in good humor.

New Lilly came to the show as a fan of the show, she knew and should know what the show is about and how it goes down. Every time she has been on she felt that there were some catty vibes going on (which she has dished out herself) so it was just a matter of time for her to break and cry (she is pretty young still and young girls are way more sensitive) . She cried once and STILL came back the next day.

was babygirl over the top with her insults??? sure... but it didn't surprise me

[happytypinggirl]

STOP IT!!!! ALL OF YOU!!!!!



everyone knows HTG is infallible.

sheesh all i did was have an opinion, just like the rest of you.

i blame my new avatar. i look wicked.

[MisterSmith]

ok here's what i saw.

new lilly came in and attacked classic lilly and acted in a way that was inappropriate and uncalled for. classic lily fought back. classic lilys friends, were shocked and annoyed, and called in and told new lilly how they felt.

ok im going to shut up for awhile and let some other people post. im crowding this thread.

HTG, I am not trying to attack you in any way and hope you don't think I am. I just don't understand the situation or how it can be defended. However, different people see things from a different perspective, so I should probably take a step back myself. :laugh:

What is amazing is that people can hear the exact same show and have very different opinions. What I heard from New Lilly was not all that bad. In fact, when New Lilly was first on the show Old Lilly was not participating. And I don't recall any attacks until OL came on and attacked NL.

However, I will admit that it is possible my timeline is off. I listen at work and it has been a hell of a hectic week.

[Earlshog]

how is it different from the brutal and racists things thrown at pretty much any "friend of the show" and show character every now and then (thank god it is an XL channel) ... arab comments at Lilly... black comments at earl... it's not uncommon to the show. it's all in good humor.

New Lilly came to the show as a fan of the show, she knew and should know what the show is about and how it goes down. Every time she has been on she felt that there were some catty vibes going on (which she has dished out herself) so it was just a matter of time for her to break and cry (she is pretty young still and young girls are way more sensitive) . She cried once and STILL came back the next day.

was babygirl over the top with her insults??? sure... but it didn't surprise me

don't forget when they call Ronnie the T word

[RoseBlood]

I'm assuming the racial insults were dished out with malicious intent and NOT in good humor? Big Difference.


Even if new Lilly dished it and brought it on herself, generally when fighting with someone I don't like resorting to racial/ethnic/religious slurs.

[MisterSmith]

hahaha! im trying to figure out if we've passed over the mean girl torch, or if everyone hears a girl talk and cant differentiate between all of us, so we all get the blame for anything any chick says.

I have used the term "mean girls" so I don't describe the girls that called in spewing venom in a derogatory manner. I have different adjectives that might be appropriate, but they are not classy or necessary.

[RAAMONE]

STOP IT!!!! ALL OF YOU!!!!!



everyone knows HTG is infallible.

there you go again with your big gay red letters

[happytypinggirl]

I'm assuming the racial insults were dished out with malicious intent and NOT in good humor? Big Difference.


Even if new Lilly dished it and brought it on herself, generally when fighting with someone I don't like resorting to racial/ethnic/religious slurs.

most of them were clearly jokes, and very light hearted. there were one or two calls where i honestly dont know how they were intended, and maybe they crossed the line. but im sure even that was just someone getting carried away and just not using their head.

i dont remember whether b.g. said anything like that.

[~Katja~]

I'm assuming the racial insults were dished out with malicious intent and NOT in good humor? Big Difference.


Even if new Lilly dished it and brought it on herself, generally when fighting with someone I don't like resorting to racial/ethnic/religious slurs.

I think you should listen to the show.
Yes it was over the top and they piled on and on and on... which made it more funny than vicious in my book. I kept thinking "oh jeez, this is bad" and laughed at the same time, especially when Ron kept stopping the show to ask her "what's the matter honey??" so many times.
It's the brilliance of the show that I enjoy.

[MisterSmith]

I'm assuming the racial insults were dished out with malicious intent and NOT in good humor? Big Difference.


Even if new Lilly dished it and brought it on herself, generally when fighting with someone I don't like resorting to racial/ethnic/religious slurs.

Exactly. There was no hint of comedy involved in most of the calls (except when Anthony called). It was just hateful venom.

*** However Ron was going for comedy and did say some funny, borderline stuff.

And the people that chimed in simply are not involved with the situation. Lilly vs. Lilly is one thing, but then BabyGirl, Frenchy, and others called in just to viciously attack. Some of it was just piling on for the sake of it, but there was some seriously hurtful and racist stuff said.

[drjoek]

Yawn

[midwestjeff]

or about whether certain things might be horizontal instead of vertical.

Pussy lips?

[RoseBlood]

I think you should listen to the show.
Yes it was over the top and they piled on and on and on... which made it more funny than vicious in my book. I kept thinking "oh jeez, this is bad" and laughed at the same time, especially when Ron kept stopping the show to ask her "what's the matter honey??" so many times.
It's the brilliance of the show that I enjoy.

Yeah I really should :sad: Ron is brilliant at turning any situation into comedy gold! :thumbup:

[happytypinggirl]

Pussy lips?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRG

[Tenbatsuzen]

and what hip in crowd is that? b.g. hates me, frenchy thinks im a cunt, fred has called me every name in the book, im not in the chez cumia crowd, and everyone knows i have no fear of being critical of classic lilly when i think she's wrong about something.

so which of the people involved am i so tight with that you think my opinion is biased?

God, you're like me with a vagina and shitty taste in football teams.

[MisterSmith]

Pussy lips?

Actually they were talking about armpit hair. The conversation took a really weird turn.

[A.J.]

What the shit is a mean girl anyhow?

I think that just about applies to any chick.... When I believe it was just Deb, Missy, Silera and I at the start.

The "OMGs"?

[Tenbatsuzen]

The "OMGs"?

I had a really mysogynistic joke concerning the mean girls and the A-Team but I'll just walk away.

[A.J.]

b.g. hates me

Berry Gordy hates you? What did you ever do to him?

[Freakshow]

i blame my new avatar. i look wicked.

And yet somehow still happy.


(and adroit at typing)

[MisterSmith]

I had a really mysogynistic joke concerning the mean girls and the A-Team but I'll just walk away.

:lol: I get it, they would be the B-Team, because they have boobs!

And, y'know, because they aren't good enough to make the A-Team. Because they are girls.



:laugh:

[NewYorkDragons80]

Because she called in and basically insinuated that New Lilly was an attention whore so that opened up the whole pot/kettle dealie.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/I'm_RickJames_Bitch!.jpg

BANG BANG

I'm trying hard to not pile on BG or sully her. But New Lilly may have brought some stuff on herself. I'll concede some fault there, but for Babygirl to call anybody else an attention whore is the height of hypocrisy and catty trash behavior. There is a fine line between eager listener and attention whore, but babygirl let that cat out of the bag, not us, and now we're discussing the merits of her claim.

I'm interested in knowing what separates, in HTG's book, an invited guest from an uninvited one.

[Tenbatsuzen]

:lol: I get it, they would be the B-Team, because they have boobs!

And, y'know, because they aren't good enough to make the A-Team. Because they are girls.



:laugh:


It actually had to do with breaking them all down by role.

HTG Hannibal
Casey Face
Missy Murdock
Silera BA

Not surprisingly, the roles match up pretty well.

[MisterSmith]

It actually had to do with breaking them all down by role.

HTG Hannibal
Casey Face
Missy Murdock
Silera BA

Not surprisingly, the roles match up pretty well.

OK, that's a lot better than I thought. I was expecting a "C-Team" reference.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In 2008 a MAC commando unit was put on vacation by Mikeyboy for a crime they didn't commit. These women promptly evaded their bans to the Syndication Underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire: THE B-TEAM.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Of course, instead of a GMC van, they drive a Dodge Minivan with babyseats in the back for Julianna and Collin...

[MisterSmith]

Of course, instead of a GMC van, they drive a Dodge Minivan with babyseats in the back for Julianna and Collin...

...and they don't drive it well.

Because they are girls.










:laugh:

[Dougie Brootal]

sheesh all i did was have an opinion, just like the rest of you.

i blame my new avatar. i look wicked.

no, i was serious! i love you! except for the fact that you jacked the price of ron and fez up on own your friends just so i couldnt afford them. :wallbash:

[spainlinx0]

I don't see why some people here are glossing over the difference between good-natured racial type ribbing, and downright hostile racial slurs. There is a difference whether you want to willfully ignore that point or not.

New Lilly came on and Ron wanted to see a battle between New Lilly and Old Lilly. I have no problem with on-air fights. I do have a problem with beating down a girl who is clearly outnumbered. Yes, she made fun of Lilly, but it never seemed too mean-spirited. Lilly's, BG's, and Frenchy's behavior was atrocious. Even Anthony, went beyond racially tinged humor, to downright beating this girl. I am not saying that New Lilly did not bring the beating on herself in some way, but it was disproportionately mean.

It was like if the punishment for someone stepping on your shoes was you and your friends sodomizing the perpetrator. It was over-the-top and hateful. I thought people were welcome on the show. New Lilly is a girl who was reaching out for friendship, albeit in a weird, stalkerish, and attention whorish way, she still was looking for companionship. I'm sure we would all love to be friends with the show in some way, so to see her get destroyed like that was disheartening.

[~Katja~]

...and they don't drive it well.

Because they are girls.










:laugh:

I take offense to that comment. Women are great drivers!
That is a pretty hurtful bash.

[underdog]

Any pictures of Babygirl?

I think this is the first time I wish FBA was still around. There was a thread with some great pics of Babygirl there.

[spainlinx0]

Probably the most pathetic thing was the fact that even outnumbered 10-1 New Lilly had better JOKES than the callers.

I'm also glad New Lilly was the bigger person, and after taking her lumps she still congratulated and was gracious to Old Lilly.

[MisterSmith]

I take offense to that comment. Women are great drivers!
That is a pretty hurtful bash.

Just kidding sweet cheeks. :thumbup:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you know who aren't good drivers, the Chine.... oh wait this is how this argument got started

[~Katja~]

you know who aren't good drivers, the Chine.... oh wait this is how this argument got started

but they sure know how to pull a rickshaw well....

[~Katja~]

I think this is the first time I wish FBA was still around. There was a thread with some great pics of Babygirl there.

it was an epic thread, funny mean and hurtful... awsome!


Probably the most pathetic thing was the fact that even outnumbered 10-1 New Lilly had better JOKES than the callers.

I'm also glad New Lilly was the bigger person, and after taking her lumps she still congratulated and was gracious to Old Lilly.
I'll give her that...

Just kidding sweet cheeks. :thumbup:

so was I :bye:
I mean I take any of you on driving a stick shift any damn day ;)

[Don Stugots]

It actually had to do with breaking them all down by role.

HTG Hannibal
Casey Face
Missy Murdock
Silera BA

Not surprisingly, the roles match up pretty well.

they really do. who would Amy? Decker? Lynch?

[happytypinggirl]

ok i'll take back the uninvited comment.

what i had meant was, she seemed to have declared herself an intern/volunteer/whatever without being asked to, but nobody asked her to leave so i guess the reality there is-- good for her.

but the reason i mentioned it is, if you are going to kind of sneak your way onto the staff, and you dont hostility from the people who are already there, you might want to be nice to people instead of poke at the bees with a stick. if on the other hand you are going to make your name as the girl whose not afraid of anyone and whose willing to say and do shocking things toward those who you KNOW will react strongly-- you're going to get some backlash.

thats all.

as far as the pile on-- im on the fence. yea...at some point, when enough people have attacked a girl, its pretty lame to keep calling and piling on. on the other hand....its kind of the pyramid/go with the bit mentality.

so everyone was wrong, nobody was wrong, and everyone loves each other. right?

[MisterSmith]

it was an epic thread, funny mean and hurtful... awsome!



I'll give her that...



so was I :bye:
I mean I take any of you on driving a stick shift any damn day ;)

I bet you do. :wink:









:laugh:

[A.J.]

so everyone was wrong, nobody was wrong, and everyone loves each other. right?

Who needs a Unity Party!

[hereintheUK]

Did it remind anyone else of that scene toward the end of Almost famous?
When the new bandaids are eating all the steak.

[kingofthething]

i thought frenchy's call was worse

i mean for this broad to call someone a "Chinky CUnt" its horrible

look at her, she ballooned to the size of a cow...she does fuckloads of pills and had been caught nodding out on paltalk. she has called in with the xanax slurs to r&f. judge not lest you be judged bitch:king:

[JPMNICK]

i thought frenchy's call was worse

i mean for this broad to call someone a "Chinky CUnt" its horrible

look at her, she ballooned to the size of a cow...she does fuckloads of pills and had been caught nodding out on paltalk. she has called in with the xanax slurs to r&f. judge not lest you be judged bitch:king:

yea..... this type of comment is really not productive. there is no reason to talk like this about frenchy at all

[MisterSmith]

yea..... this type of comment is really not productive. there is no reason to talk like this about frenchy at all

Except that by calling in to cast aspersions on somebody else, Frenchy opened herself up to similar remarks. That was kingofthething's point.

I don't think it is appropriate and would not do it myself, but by calling in and attacking others Frenchy opened herself to attack. If she didn't want that she shouldn't have called.

[Annapolis Hans]

Bottom line: New lilly is a lightweight! :thumbdown: Old lilly rules!:clap:
Babygirl did the right thing calling new Lilly out. :nono:
COIN-sider Babygirl....at home.... on the R&F show.:drunk:

[JPMNICK]

Except that by calling in to cast aspersions on somebody else, Frenchy opened herself up to similar remarks. That was kingofthething's point.

I don't think it is appropriate and would not do it myself, but by calling in and attacking others Frenchy opened herself to attack. If she didn't want that she shouldn't have called.

i see what you are saying, and I agree Frenchy is open to an attack from the people she is fighting with, not just some random message board person.

[MisterSmith]

i see what you are saying, and I agree Frenchy is open to an attack from the people she is fighting with, not just some random message board person.

But the fight was between Lilly & Lilly and Frenchy wasn't involved; she just heard the show and called in with harsh and racist comments.

Frenchy's attack was random and unwarranted so it shouldn't be a shock that others respond in kind. I'm not saying it is right, but it can be expected. And in some schools of thought turnabout is fair play.

And I'm not trying to directly argue with you; just playing devil's advocate.

[disneyspy]

you know who aren't good drivers, the Chine.... oh wait this is how this argument got started

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[JPMNICK]

But the fight was between Lilly & Lilly and Frenchy wasn't involved; she just heard the show and called in with harsh and racist comments.

Frenchy's attack was random and unwarranted so it shouldn't be a shock that others respond in kind. I'm not saying it is right, but it can be expected. And in some schools of thought turnabout is fair play.

And I'm not trying to directly argue with you; just playing devil's advocate.

haha i am not offended and you do make a good point.

[The Jays]

Listening to it all, it seemed all in good fun, New Lily vs Original Lily, I sensed no intentional hatred going on, just some general button pushing, the illusion of territorial competition, the bit was fun.

But, that shit all ended when Babygirl called in and brought the high school bullshit drama and brought up some behind the scenes shit that she just so happened to be privy to, and then bringing out the whole cool kids factor of how she and original lily are invited to the most popular boy in school's house party and the freshman isn't allowed, so fucking childish, but of course we all love it because we love drama. And Frenchy calling her a chinky cunt, that's like telling Black Earl he's a niggity dick.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

how is it different from the brutal and racists things thrown at pretty much any "friend of the show" and show character every now and then (thank god it is an XL channel) ... arab comments at Lilly... black comments at earl... it's not uncommon to the show. it's all in good humor.

Simple. Lily and Earl have thick skin (is that racist?) and understand the jokes are in good humor. N-Lilly clearly does not share that sense of humor as evidenced by A) her incessant crying B) her obvious internalization of everything negative said about her C) her inability to laugh at anything Ron said to her.

That makes all the difference in the world.

[Legit Bill]

Everyone realizes this thread is giving her the attention that fueled her call to the show, right?

[~Katja~]

Simple. Lily and Earl have thick skin (is that racist?) and understand the jokes are in good humor. N-Lilly clearly does not share that sense of humor as evidenced by A) her incessant crying B) her obvious internalization of everything negative said about her C) her inability to laugh at anything Ron said to her.

That makes all the difference in the world.

she claimed to be a fan of the show... one has to be able to understand their humor and "get it" in order to be a fan.
She knew that coming in there and being let on air... and she came back day after day.

If she really sticks around I hope she grows a thicker skin... or else she is prone to be the victim of these kinds of episodes...
Maybe Fez will teach her how to cry in style.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Everyone realizes this thread is giving her the attention that fueled her call to the show, right?

I really don't think attention fueled her call to the show. I'm not in her brain or anything, but at this point I'd imagine BG considers herself more of an insider friend to the show than someone who desperately wants to be on the air.

Women are such misogynists!!! (Oh and for the record I'm not the biggest N.Lilly fan but I got sick of hearing her getting piled on by all the callers for over an hour - after awhile ur just 'teasing the retard' as Ronnie would say)

[CofyCrakCocaine]

she claimed to be a fan of the show... one has to be able to understand their humor and "get it" in order to be a fan.
She knew that coming in there and being let on air... and she came back day after day.

If she really sticks around I hope she grows a thicker skin... or else she is prone to be the victim of these kinds of episodes...
Maybe Fez will teach her how to cry in style.

I doubt she's a real fan of the show. If she is, she has no idea who she is or why she likes the show. In her words, she was just 'testing the waters' or whatever it was she said... that doesn't sound like someone who gets the show to me.

Also, for all the pounding she took, I haven't seen nearly half of that leveled against OG Lilly, HTG, Silera, or any other woman on the air for that matter. Maybe that's because most women on the show actually are good on-air and are tougher than this kid seems to be. Different bands of rubber have different levels of elasticity before they snap and she doesn't seem so flexible.

And I didn't hear the Frenchy call but if she really did use those words, then that's really going too far.

[~Katja~]

I really don't think attention fueled her call to the show. I'm not in her brain or anything, but at this point I'd imagine BG considers herself more of an insider friend to the show than someone who desperately wants to be on the air.

Women are such misogynists!!! (Oh and for the record I'm not the biggest N.Lilly fan but I got sick of hearing her getting piled on by all the callers for over an hour - after awhile ur just 'teasing the retard' as Ronnie would say)

she is an adult, nobody could have held her there even if she mentioned briefly they wouldn't let her go...
if you get so upset by this stuff and don't leave... I don't know... that comes close to retard for me (I know I am a bit harsh maybe, but if she stayed, then she stayed for the attention, whether it was negative or positive...)
Also, she was called New Lilly and the New baby girl... maybe a bit of a threat to both... so the mean girl venom came out on both sides.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

she is an adult, nobody could have held her there even if she mentioned briefly they wouldn't let her go...
if you get so upset by this stuff and don't leave... I don't know... that comes close to retard for me (I know I am a bit harsh maybe, but if she stayed, then she stayed for the attention, whether it was negative or positive...)
Also, she was called New Lilly and the New baby girl... maybe a bit of a threat to both... so the mean girl venom came out on both sides.

Ha ha. I do agree she comes off retarded on-air and that doing so is always inviting a world of shit. I also think that she absolutely deserved the shit-storm of wrath that Lily launched at her.

I object to the degree of attack she's received from some of the callers who simply saw someone was down and decided to be the 60th person to kick her without a trace of humor.

[~Katja~]

I object to the degree of attack she's received from some of the callers who simply saw someone was down and decided to be the 60th person to kick her without a trace of humor.

but that kinda goes with the pyramid thingy... ya know... if the show didn't want it they would not have let it on air.
They do screen their calls...

[CofyCrakCocaine]

but that kinda goes with the pyramid thingy... ya know... if the show didn't want it they would not have let it on air.
They do screen their calls...

Oh I never said it wasn't great radio. Provocative shit! Look at us discussing it here right now. The buddays absolutely know what they're doing- though I don't think they control the mouths of the listeners either. That damned Shark keeps getting through after all!

[lleeder]

wow that's single white female creepy. whats next, is she going to make her hair look exactly like Old Lilly

That point was brought up on thursdays show. You really need to step up the listening. Clearly not a 100%er.:dry:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

That point was brought up on thursdays show. You really need to step up the listening. Clearly not a 100%er.:dry:

And that's just one thing that makes him not like Lleeder and me! :king:

[lleeder]

And Frenchy calling her a chinky cunt, that's like telling Black Earl he's a niggity dick.

I remember when he was the miggity miggity miggity miggity mac daddy.

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[Sue_Bender]

New Lily was pushy, dim-witted (w/ some possible retardation), obnoxious, awful radio, and Chinese (apparently her biggest offense).

The newest incarnation of the "Mean Girls" seem to embody many of the same characteristics...


they've just been around longer.


Just how that calls for RIDICULOUSLY HATEFUL RACISM and several UNFUNNY "CUNT" remarks, I have no idea.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Except that by calling in to cast aspersions on somebody else, Frenchy opened herself up to similar remarks. That was kingofthething's point.

I don't think it is appropriate and would not do it myself, but by calling in and attacking others Frenchy opened herself to attack. If she didn't want that she shouldn't have called.

What's this? JPMNICK and MisterSmith are fighting??? I think I'll insert myself into the argument in order to listen to myself on the radio. JPMNICK, consider yourself a cunt!

[AnnoyedGrunt]

s
if you get so upset by this stuff and don't leave... I don't know... that comes close to retard for me (I know I am a bit harsh maybe, but if she stayed, then she stayed for the attention, whether it was negative or positive...)


Remember, at the start of the show Ron said something like "If you're going to cry you have to do it on the air. Fez doesn't get to go hide in the bathroom". I could see her taking that seriously and staying to try and prove she part of the team.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i see what you are saying, and I agree Frenchy is open to an attack from the people she is fighting with, not just some random message board person.

Shit, what the fuck did I miss today? GODDAMNIT. Fucking Breast Cancer.

[~Katja~]

Remember, at the start of the show Ron said something like "If you're going to cry you have to do it on the air. Fez doesn't get to go hide in the bathroom". I could see her taking that seriously and staying to try and prove she part of the team.

right, but Fez is there because he is part of the show and it's his job... and crying on air... well... part of who he is...
Lilly on the other hand is not part of the show (not even an intern) and can leave. She stayed at her own free will.
I am not sorry for her. that's all.. hate me for it if you want to...

[Sue_Bender]

right, but Fez is there because he is part of the show and it's his job... and crying on air... well... part of who he is...
Lilly on the other hand is not part of the show (not even an intern) and can leave. She stayed at her own free will.
I am not sorry for her. that's all.. hate me for it if you want to...

Who could Katja?

Certainly not someone as weak as Sue.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Listening to it all, it seemed all in good fun, New Lily vs Original Lily, I sensed no intentional hatred going on, just some general button pushing, the illusion of territorial competition, the bit was fun.

But, that shit all ended when Babygirl called in and brought the high school bullshit drama and brought up some behind the scenes shit that she just so happened to be privy to, and then bringing out the whole cool kids factor of how she and original lily are invited to the most popular boy in school's house party and the freshman isn't allowed, so fucking childish, but of course we all love it because we love drama. And Frenchy calling her a chinky cunt, that's like telling Black Earl he's a niggity dick.

This. For anyone who ever wants to EVER call me out for ripping Frenchy an asshole because she's just a girl, remember: she's a fucking racist. I have no tolerance for that.

[Tenbatsuzen]

is it sad that I work with someone who is Sue Bender aged 70?

[lleeder]

This. For anyone who ever wants to EVER call me out for ripping Frenchy an asshole because she's just a girl, remember: she's a fucking racist. I have no tolerance for that.

I agree only men can be racists. Stupid girl.

[Sue_Bender]

is it sad that I work with someone who is Sue Bender aged 70?

Not as sad as sharing a message board with one. :sad:

[Tallman388]

Until this whole mess started I thought that Old Lilly was territorial about her place on the show. It seemed like she was playing it up for the sake of some good fun until the babygirl call came in. Maybe listeners, guests (invited or otherwise), Casa de Cumia houseguests and other assorted people should let a bit be a bit without trying to get in on the action and fucking it up.

[biozombie]

good? bad? I'm just glad I'm not emotionally invested in any of those retards.
miss the FBA raccoon thread, good times.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

right, but Fez is there because he is part of the show and it's his job... and crying on air... well... part of who he is...
Lilly on the other hand is not part of the show (not even an intern) and can leave. She stayed at her own free will.
I am not sorry for her. that's all.. hate me for it if you want to...

Obviously anyone in the studio can leave whenever they want. I'm just offering an explanation for why she stayed other than her being either retarded or an attention whore.

[Foster]

I loved when she said something about how it's a "select" group to get to go to Anthony's house. Like it's the Studio 54 of the new millennium.



that pisses me off.
just for that i'm going to have a "select" group come to my house and guess who's not invited?:nono:

[MisterSmith]

good? bad? I'm just glad I'm not emotionally invested in any of those retards.
miss the FBA raccoon thread, good times.

She had her own thread? :happy:

[UpperEastSideDave]

Until this whole mess started I thought that Old Lilly was territorial about her place on the show. It seemed like she was playing it up for the sake of some good fun until the babygirl call came in. Maybe listeners, guests (invited or otherwise), Casa de Cumia houseguests and other assorted people should let a bit be a bit without trying to get in on the action and fucking it up.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Some of those calls were the most uncomfortable I have ever been listening to Ron and Fez... I don't get the mentality of why people feel so threatened by someone new coming into the show.

However, I don't think it is strictly a female thing, think about the hate that franklyn got while he was on air. I was not a big fan of his on air time, however people (ESD included) really piled onto him.


It is honestly a pack mentality. It is like when I give one of my dogs more attention than the other, it starts to attack the one I am petting because it wants my approval...


Just a thought...

[booster11373]

if Frenchy's comment was racist was Anthony's as well?

[underdog]

she does fuckloads of pills and had been caught nodding out on paltalk.

Miss Towlie.

[UpperEastSideDave]

Miss Towlie.

Wanna get high?






Don't forget to bring a Towel

[Death Metal Moe]

So is this "On Air Person" bullshit, "Cool Table" bullshit, "2%" bullshit, "Paltalk Whore" bullshit, "Messageboard" bullshit or just your plain ol' "Female" bullshit?

Bring a fan up to speed fo shizzle.

[underdog]

So is this "On Air Person" bullshit, "Cool Table" bullshit, "2%" bullshit, "Paltalk Whore" bullshit, "Messageboard" bullshit or just your plain ol' "Female" bullshit?

Bring a fan up to speed fo shizzle.

For once, I don't think it involves a messageboard.

[Drunky McBetidont]

So is this "On Air Person" bullshit, "Cool Table" bullshit, "2%" bullshit, "Paltalk Whore" bullshit, "Messageboard" bullshit or just your plain ol' "Female" bullshit?

Bring a fan up to speed fo shizzle.

from what i hear, french bread pizza sits in a car in your neighbor's driveway and listens to this noise that she claims is asian death metal. i think that makes her gay, but what the fuck do i know?

[Solveig]

im PRETTY sure she's not an intern.

Aren't you on Paltalk 24/7 looking for attention? You judge the new Lilly but you should look in the mirror at your own mental problems.

[Death Metal Moe]

from what i hear, french bread pizza sits in a car in your neighbor's driveway and listens to this noise that she claims is asian death metal. i think that makes her gay, but what the fuck do i know?

Oooooof, you went way back for that one. Damn. I feel like I just tuned into the Oldies Station.

Ahhh, good times, braindead posters and pointless arguments.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Oooooof, you went way back for that one. Damn. I feel like I just tuned into the Oldies Station.

Ahhh, good times, braindead posters and pointless arguments.

does that make me gay too?

[Dougie Brootal]

does that make me gay too?

i certainly hope so!

[Houston]

does that make me gay too?
Na, just a Peeping Tom.

[Houston]

Allright, Lets all sit back and think about what we just read. I know it's a lot to soak in but that's what blatant racism does to a person. It tears apart a persons soul. Not just the person receiving it or giving it, but also anyone who gets caught in it's crossfire.
What it comes down to is this. A lot of people need to apologize for awful things they said. And other people need to not let things like this happen again. Me myself, I need to learn to love myself more. Because isn't that where it all begins?

[happytypinggirl]

I doubt she's a real fan of the show. If she is, she has no idea who she is or why she likes the show. In her words, she was just 'testing the waters' or whatever it was she said... that doesn't sound like someone who gets the show to me.

Also, for all the pounding she took, I haven't seen nearly half of that leveled against OG Lilly, HTG, Silera, or any other woman on the air for that matter. Maybe that's because most women on the show actually are good on-air and are tougher than this kid seems to be. Different bands of rubber have different levels of elasticity before they snap and she doesn't seem so flexible.

And I didn't hear the Frenchy call but if she really did use those words, then that's really going too far.

wow you said a lot of smart things. i will correct one thing though. some of us have taken just as hard a beating (or worse) just not on air. some of the message boards and paltalkers have been BRUTAL for a lot less. I used to get MASSIVE hate just because my name was brought up on air from time to time, as did Silera, and many others.

I really don't think attention fueled her call to the show. I'm not in her brain or anything, but at this point I'd imagine BG considers herself more of an insider friend to the show than someone who desperately wants to be on the air.

Women are such misogynists!!! (Oh and for the record I'm not the biggest N.Lilly fan but I got sick of hearing her getting piled on by all the callers for over an hour - after awhile ur just 'teasing the retard' as Ronnie would say)

agreed. i dont think it was an attention play at all.

What's this? JPMNICK and MisterSmith are fighting??? I think I'll insert myself into the argument in order to listen to myself on the radio. JPMNICK, consider yourself a cunt!

didnt you mean COINsider yourself?

Miss Towlie.

MISTER towlie. he's a boy. ;)

Aren't you on Paltalk 24/7 looking for attention? You judge the new Lilly but you should look in the mirror at your own mental problems.

lol, you're silly. i never accused anyone of looking for attention. in fact, the whole reason i jumped into this thread is because i think its bullshit calling ANYONE in this whole thing an attention whore. all i said, is that new lilly said some harsh things that invited others to react harshly. personally i think it made for GREAT radio, and i hope she's on air more. i just think if she doesn't like girls being bitchy she should be careful not to throw stones herself.


:tongue:

[TooLowBrow]

wow you said a lot of smart things. i will correct one thing though. some of us have taken just as hard a beating (or worse) just not on air. some of the message boards and paltalkers have been BRUTAL for a lot less. I used to get MASSIVE hate just because my name was brought up on air from time to time, as did Silera, and many others.



agreed. i dont think it was an attention play at all.



didnt you mean COINsider yourself?



MISTER towlie. he's a boy. ;)



lol, you're silly. i never accused anyone of looking for attention. in fact, the whole reason i jumped into this thread is because i think its bullshit calling ANYONE in this whole thing an attention whore. all i said, is that new lilly said some harsh things that invited others to react harshly. personally i think it made for GREAT radio, and i hope she's on air more. i just think if she doesn't like girls being bitchy she should be careful not to throw stones herself.


:tongue:

happyquotinggirl

[Sue_Bender]

Quotes are for goats.


I'm a ram, you sheep-herding dipshits!




You're welcome.

[spoon]

That whole posse sounds kind of pathetic and self-delusional to me anyway.

You're just fucking listeners. The show is not about you. The show might be better off without you.

I couldn't agree more in every fucking way.

[happytypinggirl]

im just a silly quote goat. :bye:

[TooLowBrow]

im just a silly quote goat. :bye:

aren't we all

[spoon]

its not up to me to say what anyone deserves, but i'll say this... new lilly should not be surprised by the reaction she got, given the way she behaved.

yea i admit, by the end of the day I started to feel kind of bad about how much she was piled on, but she showed up in this new environment, where she wasn't exactly invited (as far as i can tell), firing on all cylindars, and with a 'hey, look out, im the new cunt around here' attitude. It looks like everyone forgot some of the pretty bold things she's been saying and doing since she arrived last week. She's been more than a tiny bit aggressive and not in a friendly way, particularly toward old lilly.

so i guess i'd say its no shock that people didnt warm up to that.

So I ask you, what is the protocol of breaking into the clique or being accepted!? Did she forget to kiss the rings of all the underlings and hanger-ons?! Give me a fucking break. If she was rude and they called her out it's one thing, but this was over the top no matter which side of the fence you're on. Funny enough, the person with the most to actually be pissed about said the least in terms of truly offensive (Lilly). The worst comments were from worthless call-ins from Frenchy, bbgirl, Fred and ant. I would have had no problem at all if friends called to defend their friend in any reasonable sense. So I can only assume if we have issues with you we can take to those levels and you'd understand huh? I doubt it.

[spoon]

What the shit is a mean girl anyhow?

I think that just about applies to any chick.... When I believe it was just Deb, Missy, Silera and I at the start.

Man alive it's nice to not be involved in one of these squabbles.

LESSON LEARNED!

And I truly feel none of those listed above would have actually taken things to the level they were during that show. Still, I'm truly confused someone who is seemingly pretty intelligent (HTG) could defend the bulk of the comments made during that show.

[spoon]

But the fight was between Lilly & Lilly and Frenchy wasn't involved; she just heard the show and called in with harsh and racist comments.

Frenchy's attack was random and unwarranted so it shouldn't be a shock that others respond in kind. I'm not saying it is right, but it can be expected. And in some schools of thought turnabout is fair play.

And I'm not trying to directly argue with you; just playing devil's advocate.

And you're right. Sorry Nick, Frenchy's behavior was disgusting.

[spoon]

What's this? JPMNICK and MisterSmith are fighting??? I think I'll insert myself into the argument in order to listen to myself on the radio. JPMNICK, consider yourself a cunt!

u forgot to make fun of his race for no reason at all.....come on man

[spoon]

This. For anyone who ever wants to EVER call me out for ripping Frenchy an asshole because she's just a girl, remember: she's a fucking racist. I have no tolerance for that.

You never heard me complain. Ripping people who deserve it is your biggest asset and I love you for doing it in a much better way than she employs.

[Enabler]

some of us have taken just as hard a beating (or worse) just not on air. some of the message boards and paltalkers have been BRUTAL for a lot less. I used to get MASSIVE hate just because my name was brought up on air from time to time, as did Silera, and many others.


C'mon HTG. Thats is not remotely the same thing. Clearly everyone has been made fun of before. The New Lilly thrashing upset people because, as anyone who has listened to the show for a long time knows, the tone was difft and seemingly way more harsh.

[Name]

I think this is the first time I wish FBA was still around. There was a thread with some great pics of Babygirl there.

Here's some I made for that FBA thread..

Links:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/duelfinal-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/babyfkfinalsm-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/finalballoonfinal-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/turtles-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/wineglassfinal-1.jpg

[Foster]

Here's some I made for that FBA thread if you want to reminisce..



http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/turtles-1.jpg



this one made me laugh

[sailor]

C'mon HTG. Thats is not remotely the same thing. Clearly everyone has been made fun of before. The New Lilly thrashing upset people because, as anyone who has listened to the show for a long time knows, the tone was difft and seemingly way more harsh.

yeah, i'm not a fake lilly fan, but it went way too far. and it's one thing to be attacked on here or paltalk, but this was on-air and had the hosts implicit support. granted it was very funny for quite a while, but then it turned and should have been shut down.

[MacVittie]

I really hope New Lilly isn't on air too much anymore. She asserted herself and got a lot of attention, got a little bold and called O. Lilly a cunt, and the guys really egged on that behavior. Maybe it was just to test her mettle once she was inevitably called out by someone involved with the show, and she failed that test miserably. It's easy to be the bitch when everyone's on your side, but when people start piling on is when someones fortitude really shows, and N. Lilly doesn't have it.

I genuinely do feel sorry for her. I know that she was the abrasive one in the beginning, but she's very young and I don't think she "gets" the show as much as she thinks she does.

[bigfatfuck]

Coin-sider yourself, white trash!

[GreatAmericanZero]

and I don't think she "gets" the show as much as she thinks she does.

see this quote tells me that New Lilly SHOULD be on the air more

they made great radio making her cry. I don't care about personal personalities or intellect levels, i care about great radio. And all those people contributed into making A+ radio. I would give that whole Ron & Fez radio show an A+ if it didn't start out with Bloward's crazy baseball talk.

But if its great radio it's great radio. Who the people are is it what made for an hilarious segment on a thursday afternoon. it's all good to me

[lleeder]

Too far? Too far? Fuck that nothing went too far. I thought everything that happened was a mixture of comedy and meanness but never too far. Babygirl, Frenchy their comments lacked tact but I don't think we should expect any more from them. The bit was the bit. Make the girl cry. Its not like young asian students have a history of not being able to handle pressure in New York. She'll be fine.

[Death Metal Moe]

So I ask you, what is the protocol of breaking into the clique or being accepted!? Did she forget to kiss the rings of all the underlings and hanger-ons?! Give me a fucking break. If she was rude and they called her out it's one thing, but this was over the top no matter which side of the fence you're on. Funny enough, the person with the most to actually be pissed about said the least in terms of truly offensive (Lilly). The worst comments were from worthless call-ins from Frenchy, bbgirl, Fred and ant. I would have had no problem at all if friends called to defend their friend in any reasonable sense. So I can only assume if we have issues with you we can take to those levels and you'd understand huh? I doubt it.

I agree with Spoon on this one. I didn't hear the show but I've been gleaning bits of information from each post, and I read in Spoons that 4 "inside" people including Anthony called in to mess with New Lilly? I fucking HATE when Ant calls in, it shows how overly connected to these show hangers on he is and it makes him look pathetic.

Also, remember when a little kid called Crazed busted in on air? I don't fucking remember the Elite Hangers On calling in to attack him, but I guess that's because he was a guy or maybe because of how we were laughing at him a little more than with him. But he did suddenly get a HUGE amount of air time and I didn't hear the male members of the show attack him or the on air talent phone in a complaint.

Again, the whole social hierarchy of the radio shows, messageboards and Paltalk fucking sicken me. It really isn't about us, just enjoy the show. Ron will put whoever the fuck he wants on air.

[docgoblin]

Wow, this is the longest meaningless thread that I've ever seen.

Carnies and Rubes...

[Death Metal Moe]

Wow, this is the longest meaningless thread that I've ever seen.

Carnies and Rubes...

I considered the fact that this may be a joke, but I started to think it was real after I saw 7 pages of serious discussion instead of half a page of sarcastic comments. I think it may have been a little too real from what I read.

[KnoxHarrington]

I considered the fact that this may be a joke, but I started to think it was real after I saw 7 pages of serious discussion instead of half a page of sarcastic comments. I think it may have been a little too real from what I read.

Yeah, I tried to view this through the "this show is just like wrestling" angle, and it doesn't work for me that way either. If it was a bit, it's a badly designed one. A good bit, to me, needs to have that little air of phoniness to it. Like the whole Midnight Rider thing -- if you couldn't tell that was Dave, you're truly a dumbass, but it sure was fucking funny pretending it wasn't.

I think this was a bit that veered out of control when real jealousy and territorialism -- laced with some really vile racism -- was injected into it. The back and forth between New Lily and Old Lily was fine. It started to go out of control with Babygirl's call, but even then it could have gotten back on the rails. To me, it was the Frenchy "chinky cunt" call that really ended any fun in it.

I mean, if it's a bit, as someone said above, what's the payoff? We get to hear a vulnerable, lonely college student beaten to shit on the air?

[Death Metal Moe]

Yea, could someone please run over what this "Racist Comment" that was made for me too please? I hope to catch this on replay but with my schedule there's no guarantee I'll ever hear it on XM.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I agree with Spoon on this one. I didn't hear the show but I've been gleaning bits of information from each post, and I read in Spoons that 4 "inside" people including Anthony called in to mess with New Lilly? I fucking HATE when Ant calls in, it shows how overly connected to these show hangers on he is and it makes him look pathetic.

Also, remember when a little kid called Crazed busted in on air? I don't fucking remember the Elite Hangers On calling in to attack him, but I guess that's because he was a guy or maybe because of how we were laughing at him a little more than with him. But he did suddenly get a HUGE amount of air time and I didn't hear the male members of the show attack him or the on air talent phone in a complaint.

Again, the whole social hierarchy of the radio shows, messageboards and Paltalk fucking sicken me. It really isn't about us, just enjoy the show. Ron will put whoever the fuck he wants on air.

That's what I'm getting at when I ask who is "invited". There's a perception among some of the names frequently mentioned in this thread that they have the right to screen who goes into studio. It's funny you mention that, Moe, because Crazed WAS attacked by Ant and the paltalk crowd both on the air and on paltalk. (He might be a creepy dude on paltalk. I don't have paltalk, so I don't know anything outside of what I've heard on the air)

[Name]

... I fucking HATE when Ant calls in, it shows how overly connected to these show hangers on he is and it makes him look pathetic.

Ant's call during 'The sitdown' with the head of the 5 boards maybe the worst yet greatest call ever in the history either show.

[brettmojo]

Someone once called her a raccoon.

"Once"?

Aren't you on Paltalk 24/7 looking for attention?

Aren't you posting on a message board looking for attention?

And you're right. Sorry Nick, Frenchy's behavior was disgusting.

At least she didn't tell everyone New Lilly's Social Security number...

LIIIINNNNGGGGEEERRRR ALKNGOASPBNPOGAAAOPPGA111`1```111!!!!!!!

Here's some I made for that FBA thread..

Links:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/duelfinal-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/babyfkfinalsm-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/finalballoonfinal-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/turtles-1.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/genericname2008/wineglassfinal-1.jpg

Ahhhh... Good times.

Too far? Too far? Fuck that nothing went too far.
NOTHING'S TOO FAR UNTIL WE DECIDE IT IS!!! WAS IT TOO FAR WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBO... Oh... Yeesh. Sorry. Bad memories there.

[MacVittie]

Yea, could someone please run over what this "Racist Comment" that was made for me too please? I hope to catch this on replay but with my schedule there's no guarantee I'll ever hear it on XM.

I believe the phrase was "chinky cunt"

[KnoxHarrington]

I believe the phrase was "chinky cunt"

Here's the thing about that to me: if you're going to dump out when some random hayseed calls in and drops a N-bomb on Earl (which you should), why wasn't that dumped out of? Because it's a "friend of the show"? If some Asian-American advocacy group gets its hands on a tape of this show, there's trouble.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Here's the thing about that to me: if you're going to dump out when some random hayseed calls in and drops a N-bomb on Earl (which you should), why wasn't that dumped out of? Because it's a "friend of the show"? If some Asian-American advocacy group gets its hands on a tape of this show, there's trouble.
I've heard some of the n-bomb moments on R&F and they weren't dumped, even on the replays. Ron shit on the guy, but he didn't dump out

[Sharadoc]

sheesh all i did was have an opinion, just like the rest of you.

i blame my new avatar. i look wicked.

I LOVE your new avatar, and respect everything you say! You actually give it some thought and you're not a bimbo (not that there's anything wrong with that :smile:)

[Name]

I've heard some of the n-bomb moments on R&F and they weren't dumped, even on the replays. Ron shit on the guy, but he didn't dump out

' N Bomb' callers usually don't get dumped just to make them look stupid and/or racist. There was a streak like a year ago a guy just called in to drop the 'n bomb' and that started getting dumped due to his just wanting attention. The Ant Rant with new Lilly he used slippery 'slope' , their vaginas are sideways, I don't have to clean my mansion because they can't see due to their slit eyes was just over the top sad and playing up on the 'fake racist' or more likely fake 'fake racist' jokes which are getting closer and closer to getting him into more trouble with those Asian groups that love causing trouble. It's kind of funny, but it seems like instead of Archie Bunker type obvious shock value jokes it's just becoming the he really is a racist joke.

[yojimbo7248]

Ant's call during 'The sitdown' with the head of the 5 boards maybe the worst yet greatest call ever in the history either show.

I couldn't agree more. I just heard that for the first time and it was so awful and so fun to listen to.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Ant's call during 'The sitdown' with the head of the 5 boards maybe the worst yet greatest call ever in the history either show.

omg was that crazy...most "mentally unstable" radio moment ever

[MacVittie]

' N Bomb' callers usually don't get dumped just to make them look stupid and/or racist. There was a streak like a year ago a guy just called in to drop the 'n bomb' and that started getting dumped due to his just wanting attention. The Ant Rant with new Lilly he used slippery 'slope' , their vaginas are sideways, I don't have to clean my mansion because they can't see due to their slit eyes was just over the top sad and playing up on the 'fake racist' or more likely fake 'fake racist' jokes which are getting closer and closer to getting him into more trouble with those Asian groups that love causing trouble.

Perfect description of Anthony.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

wow all these posts

Ron & Fez had some fun at New Lilly's expense


The unfunny girls called and made their little insults, people are mad because instead being funny insults, they sounded dumb and mean

you really expect BG and Frenchy to bring any humor to the table, are you serious

they came off as mean, but were following the Bit that Ronnie started to the Key


Ronnie and Anthony and Old Lilly insulted her but in a comical way , where you know that she was just in the Barrel, no harm was meant


(Most) Girls are mean and intend to hurt, It makes them feel better


but Ron let the calls through because he knew it was funny, and he loves a good cry, stop trying to look into it

blah blah blah clicks , nah BG get abused by Dave's Impression and Frenchy has been dissected on air, it was their turn to dish the insults

no harm done, stop looking at this through a microscope

[MikeyTags]

I agree with Spoon on this one. I didn't hear the show but I've been gleaning bits of information from each post, and I read in Spoons that 4 "inside" people including Anthony called in to mess with New Lilly? I fucking HATE when Ant calls in, it shows how overly connected to these show hangers on he is and it makes him look pathetic.

Again, the whole social hierarchy of the radio shows, messageboards and Paltalk fucking sicken me. It really isn't about us, just enjoy the show. Ron will put whoever the fuck he wants on air.

Mo I see you didnt listen to the show, when I was listening I thought it was the most uncomfortable bit I've ever heard before, and then I thought it was all a joke. To hear these, what sounded like highschool girls call in and rip this girl apart was just pathetic. I personally never cared for Old Lilly and am glad she's moving on. Just an uncomfortable bit that I didnt really enjoy but that's my opinion.

[Foster]

Like the whole Midnight Rider thing -- if you couldn't tell that was Dave, you're truly a dumbass,

DAVE WAS THE MIDNIGHT RIDER!!:ohmy:

[NewYorkDragons80]

omg was that crazy...most "mentally unstable" radio moment ever

How about when he randomly accused Silera of talking shit about him and Melinda on wackbag when she was doing the opposite?

[MacVittie]

blah blah blah clicks

There's no need to bring Bajeebee into this.

[cogsdoc]

wow all these posts

Ron & Fez had some fun at New Lilly's expense


The unfunny girls called and made their little insults, people are mad because instead being funny insults, they sounded dumb and mean

you really expect BG and Frenchy to bring any humor to the table, are you serious

they came off as mean, but were following the Bit that Ronnie started to the Key


Ronnie and Anthony and Old Lilly insulted her but in a comical way , where you know that she was just in the Barrel, no harm was meant


(Most) Girls are mean and intend to hurt, It makes them feel better


but Ron let the calls through because he knew it was funny, and he loves a good cry, stop trying to look into it

blah blah blah clicks , nah BG get abused by Dave's Impression and Frenchy has been dissected on air, it was their turn to dish the insults

no harm done, stop looking at this through a microscope

I soooooooo agree with hippo here. I hate to admit it but I got a lot of laughs out of the shocking brutality that Ron set up. The only part that really irritated me was the hypocritical call from Baby Girl, telling new Lilly that she is nothing but a glorified listener. Meanwhile isn't Baby Girl essentially a groupie that started dating one of the roadies? Anyway the whole thing made for incredibly funny radio, so I am as mean spirited as everyone else.

[dieseljunky]

baby girlz jelous cuzz shes got those PORNSHOP PERVERT, sunkin in hollow ass eyes
hang loose BG your soooo close to that cumia fortune. Just rember tho,soon as u turn 30 your outa there , so get that face job and new trailer soon soon soon as you can k? U realy R a ZILTCH for saying the shit U said to that poor girl, .Just wat she gets for beeing 20 times hotter and 100 times cooler than you i suppose. U:flush: CUUUUHH,,,,,,,,UNT!!!!

[~Katja~]

Here's the thing about that to me: if you're going to dump out when some random hayseed calls in and drops a N-bomb on Earl (which you should), why wasn't that dumped out of? Because it's a "friend of the show"? If some Asian-American advocacy group gets its hands on a tape of this show, there's trouble.

see, I think Ant of all people knows not to do Asian humor or impressions on air due to these stupid interest groups... though it has been the case that on O&A for example it is ok to overdue black racism as long as Patrice or another black person is involved in the joke... and usually it illustrates how stupid and hypocritical these interest groups are, cause it's ok when it comes from one of their own.... or one of their own plays part in it.

In this case the asian humor was over the top like every other bit usually gets played to the ground or is over the top... and it was "ok" cause an asian was present. Ant's comments got more and more cringy as he went along...cause he sort of could get away with it...the listeners (even if regulars) topped it off.

The fact is, if it was absolutely unacceptable to Lilly then she would not have appeared the next day and would not continue to do so. She may have cried on air and be extra sensitive... but she seems well aware of what her place on the show is now (I am sure it has been made clear to her by now)

Welcome to shock radio. I love it.

[Marc with a c]

ron: yeah but after you fuck her you're going to want to do it again in twenty minutes.
new lilly: huh
ron: you don't get it?
new lilly: no

that's all i need to know about new lilly. she deserves what she gets for walking into a studio.

[~Katja~]

ron: yeah but after you fuck her you're going to want to do it again in twenty minutes.
new lilly: huh
ron: you don't get it?
new lilly: no

that's all i need to know about new lilly. she deserves what she gets for walking into a studio.

I like ya :D




Lilly is still young and needs more experience in life to even get most of these jokes that were made

[yojimbo7248]

My problem with the Asian jokes during that now famous BGirl, Frenchy call in show was that, in my opinion, most of them weren't that good. Ant's jokes were especially boring and similar to what my grandpa would tell. Making a joke that plays on the word "chink" is so easy and really not that funny. I am all for edgy, cringe humor that would piss off Asian American groups. All I ask is that the jokes are funny.

[happytypinggirl]

And I truly feel none of those listed above would have actually taken things to the level they were during that show. Still, I'm truly confused someone who is seemingly pretty intelligent (HTG) could defend the bulk of the comments made during that show.

man you love to find things you think im wrong about and really sink your teeth into it to a point of massive exaggeration. if you really read my posts you would have noticed that i wasnt at any point defending any of the comments. i thought many of them were wrong, and of course there was meanness behind some of them. of COURSE i thought b.g. was mean and i stated right out that i thought frenchy's call was horrible and shocking. did i say anywhere that fred's a great guy when he calls women cunts? plenty of what was said on both sides was mean (and sorry, if this disappoints you-- entertaining). including the stuff said by new lilly.

i just was pointing out some of the short history that brought the calls out because at the point i entered the thread, new lilly was being painted as just a sweet innocent girl minding her own business and just trying to fit in, and i didnt think that was completely accurate. DOES THAT MEAN SHE DESERVED IT? I dunno. I have no idea. Im not making that judgement here. Just adding a little info to the thread.

BUT AGAIN...... my main reason for jumping into this conversation is because i hate when everyone person who has any relationship with this show or any other show (meaning, they participate or are talked about enough that you know their names) is considered to be an attention whore or assumed that the reason for their participation is some nefarious and desperate need to become famous. And who cares? Those people who do, then become 'material' and usually get laughed at in the end. More entertainment. Yay! Yay to new lilly, original lilly, babygirl, frenchy, fred, ant, and everyone else (crazed spandy mlc, franklyn, fmjeff, miketheteacher, crazy jenn, paul o, silera, alkey, fred, and all the other guests, callers,etc) who opens themselves up to all of this garbage by participating.

I know some of you dont find some of the guests/callers/regulars/friends/listeners entertaining, and to some of you they are not welcome, and I truly understand that. Its a completely valid viewpoint. But to keep throwing insults at ANYONE just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation, I'll never understand. I have no problem with shitting on them for what they do and say-- just the whole calling them an attention whore thing really irritates me. Yea i know, beating dead horse, broken record, post too long, i'll shut up.

[yojimbo7248]

man you love to find things you think im wrong about and really sink your teeth into it to a point of massive exaggeration. if you really read my posts you would have noticed that i wasnt at any point defending any of the comments. i thought many of them were wrong, and of course there was meanness behind some of them. of COURSE i thought b.g. was mean and i stated right out that i thought frenchy's call was horrible and shocking. did i say anywhere that fred's a great guy when he calls women cunts? plenty of what was said on both sides was mean (and sorry, if this disappoints you-- entertaining). including the stuff said by new lilly.

i just was pointing out some of the short history that brought the calls out because at the point i entered the thread, new lilly was being painted as just a sweet innocent girl minding her own business and just trying to fit in, and i didnt think that was completely accurate. DOES THAT MEAN SHE DESERVED IT? I dunno. I have no idea. Im not making that judgement here. Just adding a little info to the thread.

BUT AGAIN...... my main reason for jumping into this conversation is because i hate when everyone person who has any relationship with this show or any other show (meaning, they participate or are talked about enough that you know their names) is considered to be an attention whore or assumed that the reason for their participation is some nefarious and desperate need to become famous. And who cares? Those people who do, then become 'material' and usually get laughed at in the end. More entertainment. Yay! Yay to new lilly, original lilly, babygirl, frenchy, fred, ant, and everyone else (crazed spandy mlc, franklyn, fmjeff, miketheteacher, crazy jenn, paul o, silera, alkey, fred, and all the other guests, callers,etc) who opens themselves up to all of this garbage by participating.

I know some of you dont find some of the guests/callers/regulars/friends/listeners entertaining, and to some of you they are not welcome, and I truly understand that. Its a completely valid viewpoint. But to keep throwing insults at ANYONE just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation, I'll never understand. I have no problem with shitting on them for what they do and say-- just the whole calling them an attention whore thing really irritates me. Yea i know, beating dead horse, broken record, post too long, i'll shut up.

well said and very cool new avatar. Now if you would only support the US soccer team over Argentina...

[lleeder]

wow all these posts

Ron & Fez had some fun at New Lilly's expense


The unfunny girls called and made their little insults, people are mad because instead being funny insults, they sounded dumb and mean

you really expect BG and Frenchy to bring any humor to the table, are you serious

they came off as mean, but were following the Bit that Ronnie started to the Key


Ronnie and Anthony and Old Lilly insulted her but in a comical way , where you know that she was just in the Barrel, no harm was meant


(Most) Girls are mean and intend to hurt, It makes them feel better


but Ron let the calls through because he knew it was funny, and he loves a good cry, stop trying to look into it

blah blah blah clicks , nah BG get abused by Dave's Impression and Frenchy has been dissected on air, it was their turn to dish the insults

no harm done, stop looking at this through a microscope

Thats Danny's impression, not Daves. You really need to start listening to the show.

[Dougie Brootal]

I agree with Spoon on this one...

HOLY









FUCKING








SHIT!











someone call the press!

[MikeyTags]

man you love to find things you think im wrong about and really sink your teeth into it to a point of massive exaggeration. if you really read my posts you would have noticed that i wasnt at any point defending any of the comments. i thought many of them were wrong, and of course there was meanness behind some of them. of COURSE i thought b.g. was mean and i stated right out that i thought frenchy's call was horrible and shocking. did i say anywhere that fred's a great guy when he calls women cunts? plenty of what was said on both sides was mean (and sorry, if this disappoints you-- entertaining). including the stuff said by new lilly.

i just was pointing out some of the short history that brought the calls out because at the point i entered the thread, new lilly was being painted as just a sweet innocent girl minding her own business and just trying to fit in, and i didnt think that was completely accurate. DOES THAT MEAN SHE DESERVED IT? I dunno. I have no idea. Im not making that judgement here. Just adding a little info to the thread.

BUT AGAIN...... my main reason for jumping into this conversation is because i hate when everyone person who has any relationship with this show or any other show (meaning, they participate or are talked about enough that you know their names) is considered to be an attention whore or assumed that the reason for their participation is some nefarious and desperate need to become famous. And who cares? Those people who do, then become 'material' and usually get laughed at in the end. More entertainment. Yay! Yay to new lilly, original lilly, babygirl, frenchy, fred, ant, and everyone else (crazed spandy mlc, franklyn, fmjeff, miketheteacher, crazy jenn, paul o, silera, alkey, fred, and all the other guests, callers,etc) who opens themselves up to all of this garbage by participating.

I know some of you dont find some of the guests/callers/regulars/friends/listeners entertaining, and to some of you they are not welcome, and I truly understand that. Its a completely valid viewpoint. But to keep throwing insults at ANYONE just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation, I'll never understand. I have no problem with shitting on them for what they do and say-- just the whole calling them an attention whore thing really irritates me. Yea i know, beating dead horse, broken record, post too long, i'll shut up.

I'm sure people have called you an "attention whore" and I'm sure it does hurt in a way, I mean how could it not, so very understandable. But I will say that there are people who are involved in the show that seem to seek attention. In my opinion flashing tits on pal talk is seeking attention. You are right though to insult anybody just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation is not understandable. In this case New Lilly trying to be involved in the Ron and Fez show and for that she's being called a "chinky cunt". Not necessary and I know you said it was mean. But in a way it's the same thing.

[happytypinggirl]

well said and very cool new avatar. Now if you would only support the US soccer team over Argentina...

luckily, they almost much never face each other so i can show love for both. :wub: if and when it comes down to a us v. argentina battle, dont worry, i'll do the right thing.

[NewYorkDragons80]

My problem with the Asian jokes during that now famous BGirl, Frenchy call in show was that, in my opinion, most of them weren't that good. Ant's jokes were especially boring and similar to what my grandpa would tell. Making a joke that plays on the word "chink" is so easy and really not that funny. I am all for edgy, cringe humor that would piss off Asian American groups. All I ask is that the jokes are funny.

Yojimbo, I like you, but I wish you could make every post in sarcastic character like you did earlier in the thread

[NewYorkDragons80]

BUT AGAIN...... my main reason for jumping into this conversation is because i hate when everyone person who has any relationship with this show or any other show (meaning, they participate or are talked about enough that you know their names) is considered to be an attention whore or assumed that the reason for their participation is some nefarious and desperate need to become famous. And who cares? Those people who do, then become 'material' and usually get laughed at in the end. More entertainment. Yay! Yay to new lilly, original lilly, babygirl, frenchy, fred, ant, and everyone else (crazed spandy mlc, franklyn, fmjeff, miketheteacher, crazy jenn, paul o, silera, alkey, fred, and all the other guests, callers,etc) who opens themselves up to all of this garbage by participating.

Mentioned Fred twice? Hmmm... an interesting look into the preoccupations and possible fantasies of HTG. Verrrry interesting.

I know some of you dont find some of the guests/callers/regulars/friends/listeners entertaining, and to some of you they are not welcome, and I truly understand that. Its a completely valid viewpoint. But to keep throwing insults at ANYONE just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation, I'll never understand. I have no problem with shitting on them for what they do and say-- just the whole calling them an attention whore thing really irritates me. Yea i know, beating dead horse, broken record, post too long, i'll shut up.

I agree that New Lilly might've brought on *some* of this, but this had more to do with someone almost a decade younger than them coming on the show and making waves. I have tried to avoid using the term attention whore. However, some of the people who ganged up on New Lilly need to understand that they live in houses made of paper-thin glass and that should come into their thinking before they throw verbal stones.

[Death Metal Moe]

That's what I'm getting at when I ask who is "invited". There's a perception among some of the names frequently mentioned in this thread that they have the right to screen who goes into studio. It's funny you mention that, Moe, because Crazed WAS attacked by Ant and the paltalk crowd both on the air and on paltalk. (He might be a creepy dude on paltalk. I don't have paltalk, so I don't know anything outside of what I've heard on the air)

I did forget that Crazed was ragged on by the Paltalk Elites, but that was before he got on air, and I think it was because of his notorious rep on Paltalk that Ron started to pay attention to him. That and how akwardly brilliant he can be on air.

But did other people on a similar social plane as Crazed call in to challenge his new spot? Yes, there was the Big A call but we all recognize it was part of the bit.

There is a very annoying caste system in place with the hangers on and other assorted people who get on air mentions and it's annoying. It became apparent to anyone NOT aware of it during the "Sit Down" show and it seems to still be in place.

I've said it a million times already and I'll say it again because you are forced to listen to me:

You fucking idiots fighting each other in the NYC area are completely ungrateful of your position. Ron and Fez and O&A are INTERNATIONAL shows and the pockets of fans in 2 countries would KILL to come hang outin NYC with the shows. But you jackoffs take it for granted that you're just always able to go to each gathering and start in fighting.

Ungrateful. Completely and totally. Oh, poor babies, someone doesn't like you on the computer. Why do you have to be liked by everyone?! JUST LISTEN TO THE FUCKING SHOW!

This is why I live an hour from NYC, don't go to gatherings and post here less and less. It's annoying high school drama and I have more important things to worry about. My time is valuable.

[Death Metal Moe]

HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT!
someone call the press!


Just let it die Doug. None of these new people even remember those old fights and I don't want to start them again.

He said something I agreed with so I quoted him. That old shit is over.

[Dougie Brootal]

Just let it die Doug. None of these new people even remember those old fights and I don't want to start them again.

He said something I agreed with so I quoted him. That old shit is over.

yeah i know. i just thought a couple of veterans might get a chuckle.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Yes, there was the Big A call but we all recognize it was part of the bit.

Watch your tone. The only bit Big A is a part of is being the coolest mutha in the universe.

[Sinestro]

yeah i know. i just thought a couple of veterans might get a chuckle.


I'll give you my Sarah Palin wink.:wink:

[Mullenax]

I loved when she said something about how it's a "select" group to get to go to Anthony's house. Like it's the Studio 54 of the new millennium.

I think you had to do a bit more than flash your tits on some cheesy website to get in there.

I am over hearing about who's who at Anthony's house and house parties in a big way.

[underdog]

Here's the thing about that to me: if you're going to dump out when some random hayseed calls in and drops a N-bomb on Earl (which you should), why wasn't that dumped out of? Because it's a "friend of the show"? If some Asian-American advocacy group gets its hands on a tape of this show, there's trouble.

I think Ron dumped out of something racist Dave said during that show.

[sailor]

Too far? Too far? Fuck that nothing went too far. I thought everything that happened was a mixture of comedy and meanness but never too far. Babygirl, Frenchy their comments lacked tact but I don't think we should expect any more from them. The bit was the bit. Make the girl cry. Its not like young asian students have a history of not being able to handle pressure in New York. She'll be fine.
thank god she's not smart enough to go to nyu.

I did forget that Crazed was ragged on by the Paltalk Elites, but that was before he got on air, and I think it was because of his notorious rep on Paltalk that Ron started to pay attention to him. That and how akwardly brilliant he can be on air.

actually, i believe crazed's interaction with ron at one of those same bar events is what led to his coming on air.

[Death Metal Moe]

Watch your tone. The only bit Big A is a part of is being the coolest mutha in the universe.

My apologies. I wasn't thinking when I typed that one obviously false sentence.

[Death Metal Moe]

actually, i believe crazed's interaction with ron at one of those same bar events is what led to his coming on air.

OH yea, I forgot about that. But I still think it was his being known across a few different boards and communities that got him on air. If he was just some weirdo at an event he would probalby have been forgotten, but because he's just Crazed and other people knew about him, Ron ran with it.

Just my opinion of course.

[underdog]

If he was just some weirdo at an event he would probalby have been forgotten

Isn't that all he is?

[sailor]

Isn't that all he is?

did you miss the "forgotten" part?

[Death Metal Moe]

Isn't that all he is?

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[utriculus!]

R+F is totally listener driven (someone has to fill in the Fez-gaps :lol:), so why when Ron invites someone into the studio to contribute why would everyone get so up in arms about it?

She's not exactly radio gold, sure, but if she wasn't a girl the tone of the criticism would be VERY different. It seems like automatically every female on the show is an attention whore to a lot of people. If she was male people would critique her radio performance and not the ESSENCE OF HER CHARACTER.

Just a thought. And I only see it this way because I'm aware of my own misogynistic tendancies :lol:

[utriculus!]

I'm sure people have called you an "attention whore" and I'm sure it does hurt in a way, I mean how could it not, so very understandable. But I will say that there are people who are involved in the show that seem to seek attention. In my opinion flashing tits on pal talk is seeking attention. You are right though to insult anybody just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation is not understandable. In this case New Lilly trying to be involved in the Ron and Fez show and for that she's being called a "chinky cunt". Not necessary and I know you said it was mean. But in a way it's the same thing.

Medford? I bet you live less than 5 minutes from me if that's medford, MA.....

[happytypinggirl]

I did forget that Crazed was ragged on by the Paltalk Elites, but that was before he got on air, and I think it was because of his notorious rep on Paltalk that Ron started to pay attention to him. That and how akwardly brilliant he can be on air.

But did other people on a similar social plane as Crazed call in to challenge his new spot? Yes, there was the Big A call but we all recognize it was part of the bit.

There is a very annoying caste system in place with the hangers on and other assorted people who get on air mentions and it's annoying. It became apparent to anyone NOT aware of it during the "Sit Down" show and it seems to still be in place.

I've said it a million times already and I'll say it again because you are forced to listen to me:

You fucking idiots fighting each other in the NYC area are completely ungrateful of your position. Ron and Fez and O&A are INTERNATIONAL shows and the pockets of fans in 2 countries would KILL to come hang outin NYC with the shows. But you jackoffs take it for granted that you're just always able to go to each gathering and start in fighting.

Ungrateful. Completely and totally. Oh, poor babies, someone doesn't like you on the computer. Why do you have to be liked by everyone?! JUST LISTEN TO THE FUCKING SHOW!

This is why I live an hour from NYC, don't go to gatherings and post here less and less. It's annoying high school drama and I have more important things to worry about. My time is valuable.

crazed didnt throw attacks at anyone, but maaaan he has suffered MASSIVE anger for being on the show. he is hated on a level that only spandy anger can match.

but where would you get the idea that nyers were ungrateful? i couldnt begin to tell you how absolutely grateful i am that both shows have been very kind to me. and i know many others that feel the same way as i do-- lucky to be welcome around such a brilliant group of people.

[Snoogans]

crazed didnt throw attacks at anyone, but maaaan he has suffered MASSIVE anger for being on the show. he is hated on a level that only spandy anger can match.

but where would you get the idea that nyers were ungrateful? i couldnt begin to tell you how absolutely grateful i am that both shows have been very kind to me. and i know many others that feel the same way as i do-- lucky to be welcome around such a brilliant group of people.

there are alot of people who are ungrateful though. A lot of them who seem to act at times like they are owed something.

[MisterSmith]

crazed didnt throw attacks at anyone, but maaaan he has suffered MASSIVE anger for being on the show. he is hated on a level that only spandy anger can match.

but where would you get the idea that nyers were ungrateful? i couldnt begin to tell you how absolutely grateful i am that both shows have been very kind to me. and i know many others that feel the same way as i do-- lucky to be welcome around such a brilliant group of people.

there are alot of people who are ungrateful though. A lot of them who seem to act at times like they are owed something.

And as a person who is just a listener and doesn't know anybody even remotely associated with the show, it sure sounds like there are a lot of people who feel they are above others because they are "friends of the show." A lot of attitude comes across.

Not all, but many. And I get that just from listening to the show.

[MacVittie]

And as a person who is just a listener and doesn't know anybody even remotely associated with the show, it sure sounds like there are a lot of people who feel they are above others because they are "friends of the show." A lot of attitude comes across.

Not all, but many. And I get that just from listening to the show.

Do you have any specific "friends of the show" in mind?

[Snoogans]

Do you have any specific "friends of the show" in mind?

I prefer friends of the program:
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[MisterSmith]

Do you have any specific "friends of the show" in mind?

Yes, but I am not here to cast aspersions. I only brought it up because HTG is looking at things from one viewpoint but there are other people who see things differently.

Just discussing things - don't mean any harm.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Wow, this is the longest meaningless thread that I've ever seen.

Carnies and Rubes...

Like that time Dugout Doug's homes address, phone #, and SSN were released by one of the people mentioned. That night, Anthony and Doug were clinking glasses, smoking cigars, and congratulating each other on a bit well done.

[A.J.]

You fucking idiots fighting each other in the NYC area are completely ungrateful of your position. Ron and Fez and O&A are INTERNATIONAL shows and the pockets of fans in 2 countries would KILL to come hang outin NYC with the shows. But you jackoffs take it for granted that you're just always able to go to each gathering and start in fighting.

Miss the WJFK days. :sad:

[Space Edge]

Miss the WJFK days. :sad:

Me too I enjoyed the people they had in studio during that era more then the people now.

[Dirtybird12]

The DC attention whores were so much more...i dunno...classier?

:drunk:

[RMPGP]

The DC attention whores were so much more...i dunno...classier?

:drunk:

Really? Crazy Jen?

I'd pick the NEW Babies over the JKF attention whores (or whatever you want to call them, I don't think they had a title).

But now that I think about it, did they have many studio guests outside of Crazy Jenn? I think that era had less than previous and since.

[Death Metal Moe]

crazed didnt throw attacks at anyone, but maaaan he has suffered MASSIVE anger for being on the show. he is hated on a level that only spandy anger can match.

but where would you get the idea that nyers were ungrateful? i couldnt begin to tell you how absolutely grateful i am that both shows have been very kind to me. and i know many others that feel the same way as i do-- lucky to be welcome around such a brilliant group of people.

I get the idea that some of the NY fans are ungrateful because they can't put their own personal bullshit aside when dealing with the show, or just stay a listener. How many fucking times do we have to hear the same bullshit rehashed on the air over and over and MOTHERFUCKING OVER again? We get it, some of your don't like each other. Boo fucking hoo.

Seriously, I don't give a fucking shit who you people like and don't like. I am so sick of your little in fighting and behind the scenes antics I could spit on my keyboard.

I just want a radio show, not high school lunch room talk. It was bad enough with a messageboard, Paltalk only amplified it because you can actually be seen and put a face to a name over the internet.

[Death Metal Moe]

Really? Crazy Jen?

I'd pick the NEW Babies over the JKF attention whores (or whatever you want to call them, I don't think they had a title).

But now that I think about it, did they have many studio guests outside of Crazy Jenn? I think that era had less than previous and since.

There is only 1 Crazy Jen and I'd thank you all to show her a little more respect.


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[Dougie Brootal]

There is only 1 Crazy Jen and I'd thank you all to show her a little more respect.


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BA-BOOM!:lol:

[A.J.]

But now that I think about it, did they have many studio guests outside of Crazy Jenn? I think that era had less than previous and since.

Being that it was a tiny studio, it was hard to have a lot of people in there. Crazy Jen, Elfish, Perrynoid, Cherrynoid and Cigar Sid were on there the most. I think Bobo started coming in around that time too. I forget as I was in Saudi Arabia toward the end of the WJFK days.

I was there a few times but mostly watching from the sidelines.

[RMPGP]

OH yea, I forgot about that. But I still think it was his being known across a few different boards and communities that got him on air. If he was just some weirdo at an event he would probalby have been forgotten, but because he's just Crazed and other people knew about him, Ron ran with it.

Just my opinion of course.

I dunno Moe. I respect your opinion and all, but the Crazed airtime thing was most likely borne out of Ron having Crazed tell his cigar story to people at all the parties. Ronnie would set people up with Crazed/Seth and his tale at every party as a bit of a prank. I dunno how much the PT part had to do with it... but I can see your point.

I remember hearing about Crazed and his cigar story months and months before Crazed was ever on the radio.

Now they have one of the freshest, hottest, coolest DJ hip hop stylin MCs on the market interacting with the show, thanks to Ronnie introducing Crazed/Seth to the world.

Crazed is to the hip hop world, what Daniel Johnston is to the pop world.

[Death Metal Moe]

BA-BOOM!:lol:

Oh yes my friend. All up on dat sweet ass like white on rice biznitches.

[Death Metal Moe]

I dunno Moe. I respect your opinion and all, but the Crazed airtime thing was most likely borne out of Ron having Crazed tell his cigar story to people at all the parties. Ronnie would set people up with Crazed/Seth and his tale at every party as a bit of a prank. I dunno how much the PT part had to do with it... but I can see your point.

I remember hearing about Crazed and his cigar story months and months before Crazed was ever on the radio.

Now they have one of the freshest, hottest, coolest DJ hip hop stylin MCs on the market interacting with the show, thanks to Ronnie introducing Crazed/Seth to the world.

Crazed is to the hip hop world, what Daniel Johnston is to the pop world.

Yea, I could be wrong about what drove Ron to want him on air or to what 1st peaked his interests in Crazed.

My other feelings that he wasn't give the same treatment as New Lilly stand though.

[RMPGP]

There is only 1 Crazy Jen and I'd thank you all to show her a little more respect.


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She's grown on me like a fungus, but I prefer my Crazy Jenn in small doses. Her attack on New Lilly seemed a bit out of character. Oddly it preceded the avalanche of hatred that followed... I wonder if she opened that pandora's box?

[Death Metal Moe]

She's grown on me like a fungus, but I prefer my Crazy Jenn in small doses. Her attack on New Lilly seemed a bit out of character. Oddly it preceded the avalanche of hatred that followed... I wonder if she opened that pandora's box?

What?!?! My sweet Jen started the attacks?! Say it aint so!

[Dirtybird12]

Being that it was a tiny studio, it was hard to have a lot of people in there. Crazy Jen, Elfish, Perrynoid, Cherrynoid and Cigar Sid were on there the most. I think Bobo started coming in around that time too. I forget as I was in Saudi Arabia toward the end of the WJFK days.

I was there a few times but mostly watching from the sidelines.

Vincy, Lacey (Crystal Beth), Thug Lip Annie, Kathleen from the Bronx, There was a decent crew in and out of there every week. Kinda snowballed into Friday Night Lights. None of them were really attention whores except for the cosmic circus circle..other than that, I dont remember there being as much "look at me" drama like there is in NY. Then again... I was pretty cooked 99% of the time and it all seems a bit foggy.

[spoon]

1 Aren't you posting on a message board looking for attention?



2 At least she didn't tell everyone New Lilly's Social Security number...




1 I think most here and on other boards truly have a love for a great show and look to discuss things with other fans. Sure there will always be those looking for attention, or dare I say, attention whores looking for acceptance (from mods and the show) for whatever reason they have (lack of love, friends or need to be heard). Yet I truly believe most here are happy with their little slice of the show via the board and the friends they made here bc of it.

2 That would be another example of over the top. I remember how pissed someone was with that, and they were right to be upset. It's that personal line once more, perhaps in a different sense, yet still personal and hateful.

[happytypinggirl]

there are alot of people who are ungrateful though. A lot of them who seem to act at times like they are owed something.

i'd actually agree with that. and to DMM, im not going to apologize for not getting along with some people, cuz, thats my life and my choice, but i actually agree about not bringing personal bullshit to the show. I did that once, and i apologize for that. Twas a moment of weakness.

[spoon]

man you love to find things you think im wrong about and really sink your teeth into it to a point of massive exaggeration. if you really read my posts you would have noticed that i wasnt at any point defending any of the comments. i thought many of them were wrong, and of course there was meanness behind some of them. of COURSE i thought b.g. was mean and i stated right out that i thought frenchy's call was horrible and shocking. did i say anywhere that fred's a great guy when he calls women cunts? plenty of what was said on both sides was mean (and sorry, if this disappoints you-- entertaining). including the stuff said by new lilly.

i just was pointing out some of the short history that brought the calls out because at the point i entered the thread, new lilly was being painted as just a sweet innocent girl minding her own business and just trying to fit in, and i didnt think that was completely accurate. DOES THAT MEAN SHE DESERVED IT? I dunno. I have no idea. Im not making that judgement here. Just adding a little info to the thread.

BUT AGAIN...... my main reason for jumping into this conversation is because i hate when everyone person who has any relationship with this show or any other show (meaning, they participate or are talked about enough that you know their names) is considered to be an attention whore or assumed that the reason for their participation is some nefarious and desperate need to become famous. And who cares? Those people who do, then become 'material' and usually get laughed at in the end. More entertainment. Yay! Yay to new lilly, original lilly, babygirl, frenchy, fred, ant, and everyone else (crazed spandy mlc, franklyn, fmjeff, miketheteacher, crazy jenn, paul o, silera, alkey, fred, and all the other guests, callers,etc) who opens themselves up to all of this garbage by participating.

I know some of you dont find some of the guests/callers/regulars/friends/listeners entertaining, and to some of you they are not welcome, and I truly understand that. Its a completely valid viewpoint. But to keep throwing insults at ANYONE just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation, I'll never understand. I have no problem with shitting on them for what they do and say-- just the whole calling them an attention whore thing really irritates me. Yea i know, beating dead horse, broken record, post too long, i'll shut up.


No HTG, like others when I've had issues with their posts, I simply respond to things when I see them. I'm sorry if you can't fathom the thought that everyone here doesn't take your every post as the gospel. I didn't exaggerate a single thing, and never laid thick insults on anyone, even those that are surely deserving after their own actions on that show.

To say u aren't defending them isn't exactly truth either. Constantly you ask the question "does/did she deserve it", answered by I don't know. Passive acceptance is a cool trick, just a political way of staying away from concrete assertions. You slowly over the course of time in a few threads have come to show less comfort with the comments made. Still, you always take it back to your own interest in this mess in terms of show related guests and their place and why they are there.

I find it odd how this whole discussion keeps going back to the AWFUL line of "attention whoring" versus some ugly comments made by some seemingly threatened women and gang mentality men in an attempt to show their support for the in crowd. Sorry, it was a terrible display for both, and I didn't find it entertaining in the least.



"I know some of you dont find some of the guests/callers/regulars/friends/listeners entertaining, and to some of you they are not welcome, and I truly understand that. Its a completely valid viewpoint. But to keep throwing insults at ANYONE just for the fact that they participate in a show that welcomes participation, I'll never understand."

So, like I said before, to call someone an attention whore as many clearly did here u simply can't understand, but the racist gang attack was open bc she brought it on herself. I fail to see your logic at all. I too don't find some of the guests entertaining but realize it's not my show and it's r/f's decision. And the difference between the involvement of FM Jeff, Alkey, Silera and the likes of MLZC, Frenchy, BBGirl and others like them are clear as day based on motivations and what they bring to the show. Up until that show it really didn't matter even though the difs are clear, but now it's hypocrisy and hate that fuels my response. By your standards I guess I should reserve judgment and not take a stand bc these are people who have been on air and hence that would be the only reason I was upset.

[spoon]

There is a very annoying caste system in place with the hangers on and other assorted people who get on air mentions and it's annoying. It became apparent to anyone NOT aware of it during the "Sit Down" show and it seems to still be in place.

This is why I live an hour from NYC, don't go to gatherings and post here less and less. It's annoying high school drama and I have more important things to worry about. My time is valuable.

The social caste system comment makes sense and is upsetting all the same. I do miss the days of the Capos and when we didn't have the same people in studio getting a sense of entitlement. It was entertaining to have different people around and even those regulars who didn't dominate like Pantera and others who just were cool hangs. Now we have a group who think they are the show and it's comical.

[spoon]

yeah i know. i just thought a couple of veterans might get a chuckle.

got one out of me (just as surprised as you)

[Death Metal Moe]

The social caste system comment makes sense and is upsetting all the same. I do miss the days of the Capos and when we didn't have the same people in studio getting a sense of entitlement. It was entertaining to have different people around and even those regulars who didn't dominate like Pantera and others who just were cool hangs. Now we have a group who think they are the show and it's comical.

Shit, I forgot about the Capos. It was the one and only time I got into the studio. That was the essense of how Ron and Fez give back to their fans. There was a rotating bunch of people who got to come into their studio and observe how the show worked.

That is what makes the show cool.

The "Inside" fans back then were so much cooler too for whatever reason. People who just seemed happy to be cool with a great show but didn't let that fact go to their heads. No one counted the mentions they got and used that to rate themselves as more important than others.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I just want a radio show, not high school lunch room talk. It was bad enough with a messageboard, Paltalk only amplified it because you can actually be seen and put a face to a name over the internet.

Am I alone, or was there never problems on this scale before paltalk came around? I'm not blaming paltalk or singling out any of the people who are known for being on it, but the problems at that time pale in comparison to the problems of today. I say there's a direct correlation between the decline in Rooster's involvement in fandom and the rise in hostility, but that's just me. And Moe, if it's any consolation, I'll be your friend.

[HBox]

Spoon and Moe, conversing politely?

:blink:

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[NewYorkDragons80]

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MASS HYSTERIA!

[Sinestro]

Shit, I forgot about the Capos. It was the one and only time I got into the studio. That was the essense of how Ron and Fez give back to their fans. There was a rotating bunch of people who got to come into their studio and observe how the show worked.

That is what makes the show cool.

The "Inside" fans back then were so much cooler too for whatever reason. People who just seemed happy to be cool with a great show but didn't let that fact go to their heads. No one counted the mentions they got and used that to rate themselves as more important than others.


What's a capo?