Presidential Debate Viewing/Drinking Thread 2

[GreatAmericanZero]

Ok heres part 2 of the "lets get drunk watching an uneventful debate"...on a TUESDAY. Im drinking wine tonight

My view on tonight is, Obama just needs to do what hes been doing..laid back and sound smart. If McCain stays laid back, the debate will be uneventful. If he loses it, it would be hilarious

Anyway lets check it out

[SinA]

just want to add this. not very constructive, but i'm in the tank
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2921051092_765da9cf2b_o.jpg

[Don Stugots]

just want to add this. not very constructive, but i'm in the tank
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2921051092_765da9cf2b_o.jpg

NICE.

[AKA]

just want to add this. not very constructive, but i'm in the tank
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2921051092_765da9cf2b_o.jpg

Maybe not constructive, but damn patriotic.

[Hottub]

This is gonna be a hoot.:drunk:

[mikeyboy]

Ok heres part 2 of the "lets get drunk watching an uneventful debate"...on a TUESDAY. Im drinking wine tonight

My view on tonight is, Obama just needs to do what hes been doing..laid back and sound smart. If McCain stays laid back, the debate will be uneventful. If he loses it, it would be hilarious

Anyway lets check it out

I'm not a big fan of racial slurs in thread titles so I suppressed your right to free expression.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

my liver wont allow me to drink on Tuesday

its in recovery mode

[GreatAmericanZero]

so i guess "biggest loser" is only one hour tonight

[Misteriosa]

Misteriosa checking in... octoberfest is at the ready!

[GreatAmericanZero]

im really proud of this post:

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1897951&postcount=589

don't the two pics look identical?

[thejives]

Me and my wife are on wine tonight too.

What are we drinking on?

[brettmojo]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/408/iluvtortlesdw2.jpg

I like debates.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Me and my wife are on wine tonight too.

What are we drinking on?

my wine is "Red Flyer California Red Table Wine 2003"

[Misteriosa]

the debate is modded by thom bhrokah of ehn beeh ceeh nihhhhhghtly nhews

[KatPw]

:bye: I've got dessert baking, hopefully I won't lose my appetite watching this.

[thejives]

Oh god. TOm's off to a great start.

I say drink every time McCain says "my friends"

Wait he just said follow ups. I thought there wer eno follow ups.

[Misteriosa]

oh! that reminds me... ihave some pineapple-coconut ice cream in the freezer... if only i had some malibu... :o

[IamFogHat]

Prez debate watching/drinking over here checking in. I'm watching FOX cause I was watching House, and I'm drinking whiskey and beer. Let's roll.

[brettmojo]

No cheering? What is this a Mets game.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Brokaw looks younger than McCain

[cougarjake13]

i still say mc cain is a muppett


check his ass for jim hensons hand

[Misteriosa]

No cheering? What is this a Mets game.
i heard cheering... im watching the pbs version
Brokaw looks younger than McCain

sad, but true :o

[brettmojo]

Brokaw looks younger than McCain
King Tut looks younger than McCain.

[KatPw]

i heard cheering... im watching the pbs version


sad, but true :o

We are watching CNN, Mike wants to see the voter graph.

[Misteriosa]

King Tut looks younger than McCain.

John "Methuselah" McCain

[GreatAmericanZero]

this is going to make mccain look bad cuz they are standing up and talking and obama is tall and strong, and mccain just looks wormy and stout

[scottinnj]

the debate is modded by thom bhrokah of ehn beeh ceeh nihhhhhghtly nhews

Now that is the perfect visualization of Ant's Brokaw impression.

Huzzah, Misteriosa! Huzzah!

[Misteriosa]

this is going to make mccain look bad cuz they are standing up and talking and obama is tall and strong, and mccain just looks wormy and stout

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2176/1749434267_97d1878875.jpg?v=0

[IamFogHat]

Oh dear god is Mccain the opposite of charismatic.
Why hasn't a black man ever been elected president, based on the funk and soul movement of the 70's they are to me the most charismatic, smooth motherfuckers on the planet.:smoke:

[DarkHippie]

Mccain should not try teh funny

[yojimbo7248]

I didn't see the first debate and I haven't seen McCain speak for awhile. I'm surprised at how old he seems. I know, I shouldn't be surprised but he sounds more like an old man than I expected.

[scottinnj]

Oh dear god is Mccain the opposite of charismatic.
Why hasn't a black man ever been elected president, based on the funk and soul movement of the 70's they are to me the most charismatic, smooth motherfuckers on the planet.:smoke:

Because "white people are so scared, of black people....."

[IamFogHat]

Because "white people are so scared, of black people....."

Oh right:lol:

[KatPw]

But he didn't suspend it, he just said he was going to.

[Brad_Rush]

McCain sounds like he is dying with all the wheezing he is doing...

[brettmojo]

We are watching CNN, Mike wants to see the voter graph.
Voter graph rules.

I think it'd be cool though if they had a smiley face that would frown when the graph went down and smile happily when it went up.

AND OBAMA WARNED EVERYONE ABOUT THE IMPENDING CRISIS OVER A YEAR AGO MCCAIN YOU LYING OLD KOOK!!!

[yojimbo7248]

I'm making up a drinking game as I go along. From this point on, a shot when I hear 'maverick', 'main street', or 'elite'. Guess that means I will be getting in to work late tomorrow.

[HBox]

I love this stupid argument from McCain. Obama is an inexperienced neophyte who hasn't accomplished anything and is totally responsible for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

[biozombie]

When this debate is over, I predict that well over 85% of undecided robots, androids, and roombas will be voting for McCain.

[DarkHippie]

damn. mccain could be reading lesbian porn and I'd doze off

[brettmojo]

The credit markets are frozen up. That means that my fiance can't get a loan to buy a new car to replace the one that her brother's ex wife totaled over a month ago. Thank you Bush economy.

[GreatAmericanZero]

obama on the attack tonight, no?

[Brad_Rush]

Wonder what McCain is writing on his little tablet?

[IamFogHat]

I love how they're both laughing when the other one takes a jab at them, it's actually endearing politically, even if it's forced, it seems to humanize them. Which I know means nothing, we should be voting on issues, I just love the circus of this political system on display.

[TooLowBrow]

The credit markets are frozen up. That means that my fiance can't get a load to buy a new car to replace the one that her brother's ex wife totaled over a month ago. Thank you Bush economy.

i will give your fiance a load right now:wub:

[yojimbo7248]

Chairman Sperm?

[scottinnj]

I'm making up a drinking game as I go along.

I'm not playing a drinking game. I'm just drinking. God be praised I have a sick day left.

[Misteriosa]

Yes!! Work With The Home Owners!!

Thank You Sweet Jesus!

[biozombie]

I am interested in finger pointing, especially since I ain't voting.

[Misteriosa]

Wonder what McCain is writing on his little tablet?

http://eric.livingabove.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/magnadoodle.jpg

[KatPw]

Voter graph rules.

I think it'd be cool though if they had a smiley face that would frown when the graph went down and smile happily when it went up.

AND OBAMA WARNED EVERYONE ABOUT THE IMPENDING CRISIS OVER A YEAR AGO MCCAIN YOU LYING OLD KOOK!!!

Smiley faces would be hysterical.

[brettmojo]

i will give your fiance a load right now:wub:
Damn typos... She has no problems getting loads from me. :thumbup:





















































Loads of shit that is. El-Oh-El

[HBox]

We're the best exporters? Maybe when you were born McCain.

[biozombie]

http://eric.livingabove.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/magnadoodle.jpg

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Misteriosa]

how does the cnn insta-graph work?

[TooLowBrow]

Damn typos... She has no problems getting loads from me. :thumbup:

Loads of shit that is. El-Oh-El

still, the offer is on the table

[GreatAmericanZero]

We're the best exporters? Maybe when you were born McCain.

Art Vandalay was the best Exporter, but he wasn't focusing enough on Importing

[IamFogHat]

Ok, I hate both parties, but can you imagine Mccain answering this question like this?

[DarkHippie]

how does the cnn insta-graph work?

the surveyed push a yes/no button

[KatPw]

how does the cnn insta-graph work?

They have a group of undecided voters from Ohio, and they are all given a dial. The chart has a line for men, and a line for women. As the candidates speak, the dial goes up or down depending on how the candidates are received.

[scottinnj]

still, the offer is on the table

Always the consummate businessman.

[TooLowBrow]

Ok, I hate both parties, but can you imagine Mccain answering this question like this?

but hes a maverick

[IamFogHat]

but hes a maverick

teehee:clap:

[K.C.]

Is it too early to proclaim:



K.O.!!!!!!


It's over! It's over! The fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight is OVA!

[brettmojo]

Art Vandalay was the best Exporter, but he wasn't focusing enough on Importing
I heard he was spending too much time dabbling in architecture.

[GreatAmericanZero]

"Pork Barrell Earmarks"...that talk equals ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz

[epo]

So I just got home from a Board Meeting....I assume from the candidate's tones that they are getting chippy but not full-out ugly?

[Misteriosa]

i love how the graph flat-lines when mccain is talking.... they fall into an insta-coma

[HBox]

how does the cnn insta-graph work?

A focus group have these dials that range from 0-100. 100 for something they like and 0 for something they don't. The green line is the average of the men and the orange for the women.

[Hottub]

Today's vocabulary word is rhetoric.

We need to do X, and we need to do Y.
Not without congress and pork barreling you won't.

[IamFogHat]

Ok, this means nothing, but I just want to throw it out there, because the future of our leader is in question, maybe others can relate, my grandfather is six years older than Mccain, and he is about a hundred times more physically and mentally fit than the man. It's kind of a Michael Moore tactic, and I kind of feel grimy saying it, but for what it's worth, it's true. Anyone else wanna throw in?

[scottinnj]

The chart has a line for men, and a line for women.
"What do we want?"
"ONE LINE FOR ALL!"
"When do we want it?"
"NOW!"
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3a50000/3a52000/3a52000/3a52079v.jpg

[HBox]

My friends, I hope you are not drinking every time McCain says "My friends," my friends. Because my friends, you'd be smashed already my friends.

[brettmojo]

McCain is walking around that stage like Kramer in that episode when his pants were too tight and the kid he was babysitting thought he was Frankenstein.

[DarkHippie]

I hope mccain has a nam flashback

[yojimbo7248]

A focus group have these dials that range from 0-100. 100 for something they like and 0 for something they don't. The green line is the average of the men and the orange for the women.

cool, I just switched to CNN. I like that banner showing the Ohioan's reactions.

[KatPw]

I wish someone would ask McCain about how much pork Alaska gets, if he is such an enemy of pork, why pick a running mate that is the head of the state that receives the most?

[rob126]

Ok, this means nothing, but I just want to throw it out there, because the future of our leader is in question, maybe others can relate, my grandfather is six years older than Mccain, and he is about a hundred times more physically and mentally fit than the man. It's kind of a Michael Moore tactic, and I kind of feel grimy saying it, but for what it's worth, it's true. Anyone else wanna throw in?

Mcain refuses to release his medical records. What is he hiding ?

[Hottub]

http://www.crunkrockradio.com/uploaded_images/get_your_head_out_of_your_ass-734461.jpg

[GreatAmericanZero]

stop talking about Earmarks. We don't know what earmarks are!

[epo]

Mcain refuses to release his medical records. What is he hiding ?

True, but I want Biden's medical records too.

[IamFogHat]

I'm sorry, I was just watching the screen, maybe I'm not of this world, but I just have to ask this...Do people in this election really, and I mean really, care about the race of their candidate? On either side even? I mean...really? Just asking.

[yojimbo7248]

wow, lady Ohioan uncommited voters are digging Obama.

[scottinnj]

stop talking about Earmarks. We don't know what earmarks are!

Secret gang tats on your lobe. Get wit it cracka!

[biozombie]

hahahaha, federal deficit! bwaaahahaaahahaaa....*groan*

[IamFogHat]

Mcain refuses to release his medical records. What is he hiding ?

Well AIDS of course.

[HBox]

Brokaw: If you two don't keep it shorter I will bust some fucking skulls.

[brettmojo]

Mcain refuses to release his medical records. What is he hiding ?

The same thing this chick was...

http://www.stargods.org/V_Diana.jpg

[rob126]

True, but I want Biden's medical records too.

If Biden dies in office, Palin won't be president.

[yojimbo7248]

that Chicago projector sounds cool. I have no problem with my taxpayer dollars paying for it.

[~Katja~]

I can't stand looking at McCain... he is so creepy

[HBox]

wow, lady Ohioan uncommited voters are digging Obama.

Women have been higher generally in all the debates thus far, but even more so for the Democrats. Obama's actually been doing better among men than I remember in past debates.

[KatPw]

Ok, this means nothing, but I just want to throw it out there, because the future of our leader is in question, maybe others can relate, my grandfather is six years older than Mccain, and he is about a hundred times more physically and mentally fit than the man. It's kind of a Michael Moore tactic, and I kind of feel grimy saying it, but for what it's worth, it's true. Anyone else wanna throw in?

Being a POW has got to do damage to the body that cannot be predicted. Not to mention what the troops were exposed to over there disease wise, chemical warfare wise, etc. Not to mention the melanoma (what stage was it?), we also do not know if he has any history of heart disease, diabetes, etc. My dad died at 69, so to me McCain is more than one foot in the coffin already.

[brettmojo]

wow, lady Ohioan uncommited voters are digging Obama.
They love the black Muslim cock.

[scottinnj]

If Biden dies in office, Palin won't be president.

Checkmate.

[Friday]

The same thing this chick was...

http://www.stargods.org/V_Diana.jpg

:wub:

[epo]

If Biden dies in office, Palin won't be president.

I totally agree, but in terms of fairness Senator Biden & Governor Palin should release them. The ONLY candidate who has is Senator Obama.

[KatPw]

I'm sorry, I was just watching the screen, maybe I'm not of this world, but I just have to ask this...Do people in this election really, and I mean really, care about the race of their candidate? On either side even? I mean...really? Just asking.

I know my in-laws do, and I believe they represent a large section of our population. It makes me very sad.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I can't stand looking at McCain... he is so creepy

haha i'm in IMs with a woman that just said the same exact thing

[scottinnj]

that Chicago projector sounds cool. I have no problem with my taxpayer dollars paying for it.

On the weekends they all get baked and watch "Heavy Metal" on the ceiling.

[IamFogHat]

Being a POW has got to do damage to the body that cannot be predicted. Not to mention what the troops were exposed to over there disease wise, chemical warfare wise, etc. Not to mention the melanoma (what stage was it?), we also do not know if he has any history of heart disease, diabetes, etc. My dad died at 69, so to me McCain is more than one foot in the coffin already.

Nice, I think you're goin left, then you go right. (no political metaphors included.)

[brettmojo]

What the country really needs is a "new" new deal.

This country's infrastructure is shit. It needs to be built up and modernized.

[Friday]

i want to know what drinking game the federal government was playing....

[rob126]

I totally agree, but in terms of fairness Senator Biden & Governor Palin should release them. The ONLY candidate who has is Senator Obama.

I agree. I don't understand why this hasn't been a bigger issue.

[Hottub]

Tax cuts only help the rich?

[IamFogHat]

And 'him' asshole:furious:
JK

[brettmojo]

i want to know what drinking game the federal government was playing....
A shot for every US job sent over seas.

[K.C.]

Obama = Hoover?????

Why do I get the feeling that sound byte will be the lead on every FOX show for the next two weeks.

[HBox]

Tax cuts only help the rich?

McCain's only help the rich.

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/06/12/GR2008061200193.gif

[brettmojo]

Tax cuts only help the rich?
McCain's tax cuts.

[epo]

Tax cuts only help the rich?

Hottub....Senator Obama has been very clear. If you make less than $250K per you'll get a tax cut, while increasing them on the higher brackets. McCain will decrease them on the higher brackets at a rate higher than the middle class.

[Hottub]

Unless you are an oil, tobacco or pharmasutical company.

[Friday]

my bosses wife thinks $150 is cheap for shoes! no tax help for her!

[DarkHippie]

i say tax the rich to help the poor. it is the responsiblilty of all human beings to look after each other. That's how we survived for so long

[KatPw]

my bosses wife thinks $150 is cheap for shoes! no tax help for her!
Holy shit.!

[~Katja~]

dude, he just put the black man back in his seat..., damn racist

[scottinnj]

I agree. I don't understand why this hasn't been a bigger issue.

Just came up with this: (http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/10/06/while_were_at_it_lets_demand_obamas_medical_record s_too/)

McCain has granted access to more than 2,500 pages of records, in 1999 and 2008, and a recent report, including all current medications, from a team of doctors at the Mayo Clinic that has been treating him for years.

Senator Barack Obama released, in May, a one-page letter from his primary care doctor, who had not even seen him in 18 months.


Any truth to this? epo?

[Hottub]

Hottub....Senator Obama has been very clear. If you make less than $250K per you'll get a tax cut, while increasing them on the higher brackets. McCain will decrease them on the higher brackets at a rate higher than the middle class.

Yes, sir. I understand that. I still stand by my statement that congress will not agree to it. Or if they do, it will be laden down with 5,00 add on's to help themselves.

[epo]

i say tax the rich to help the poor. it is the responsiblilty of all human beings to look after each other. That's how we survived for so long

Its sort of in that Bible thing that way too. You would think the MORAL majority would get that.

[Friday]

Yes, sir. I understand that. I still stand by my statement that congress will not agree to it. Or if they do, it will be laden down with 5,00 add on's to help themselves.

no debating until you get a businessy haircut :tongue:

[IamFogHat]

Oh dear is the old man falling apart, I actually feel bad for him.

[KatPw]

Jeez, is McCain obnoxious.

[scottinnj]

Its sort of in that Bible thing that way too. You would think the MORAL majority would get that.

If we're going to go sunday school, then the tax rate would be 15% across the board.

[Hottub]

The executive branch is only one part of the problem. There should be this much interest when we are voting for senators, congressmen, governors, etc.:wallbash:

[epo]

Yes, sir. I understand that. I still stand by my statement that congress will not agree to it. Or if they do, it will be laden down with 5,00 add on's to help themselves.

Generally a new President can make that kinda shit happen in their first 100 Days without problems. Especially a president with a complete Congress in his pocket.

[yojimbo7248]

I didn't hear it clearly. I hope McCain repeats AGAIN how he took on his own party.

[epo]

The executive branch is only one part of the problem. There should be this much interest when we are voting for senators, congressmen, governors, etc.:wallbash:

That would require INVOLVEMENT. We've got American Idol to watch silly!

[torker]

To all
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p102/timeoutny/barfly.jpg
my friends!

[brettmojo]

Just came up with this: (http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/10/06/while_were_at_it_lets_demand_obamas_medical_record s_too/)




Any truth to this? epo?
If that's true, I think this is more telling...

McCain has granted access to more than 2,500 pages of records, in 1999 and 2008, and a recent report, including all current medications, from a team of doctors at the Mayo Clinic that has been treating him for years.

2,500 PAGES IN 9 YEARS??!??!?!??!?! DOES HE HAVE EVERYTHING!?!?!??!

[rob126]

McCain granted access for to those records for a few hours. He wouldn't allow copies to be made. My internet is slow tonight, so if you are talking about something else I apologize .

[GreatAmericanZero]

McCain reminds me of Dana Carvey's Turtle character in that awful movie

[Hottub]

YAY!!
He didn't say nukular!

[KatPw]

Just came up with this: (http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/10/06/while_were_at_it_lets_demand_obamas_medical_record s_too/)




Any truth to this? epo?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DEFD7133EF935A35751C1A96F9582 60

[HBox]

The city of Chernobyl agrees with McCain's statements on nuclear power.

[yojimbo7248]

Holy shit, is there anyone in this country who likes Bush?

[IamFogHat]

Good for him, first time I like him all night. Just don't have those plants around where I live.

[scottinnj]

That would require INVOLVEMENT. We've got THE SHIELD to watch silly!

Fixed. At least for me.

[torker]

McCain reminds me of Dana Carvey's Turtle character in that awful movie
Am I not turtle enough?
http://images.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2002/08/02/master_disguise/story.jpg

[IamFogHat]

Holy shit, is there anyone in this country who likes Bush?

Can I start the trend
NO!

[epo]

Just came up with this: (http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/10/06/while_were_at_it_lets_demand_obamas_medical_record s_too/)

Any truth to this? epo?

Scott, I'll have to check it out.

My understanding has been that Obama was the only major candidate to release them this year. I hope I'm wrong.

[Hottub]

Jersey already has nukular power. No problems YET!

[brettmojo]

Holy shit, is there anyone in this country who likes Bush?
Brother Elmo...

LINNNNGGGGGEEERRRRR LONNGANGANGNOAPGNAOPN!p!#!@!!!

[epo]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DEFD7133EF935A35751C1A96F9582 60

Senator McCain is Mentally Unstable?

[Friday]

Holy shit, is there anyone in this country who likes Bush?

apparently not many...

October 6, 2008 - Gallup says Bush’s approval rating eclipses the old record set for the president in the group’s most recent survey, which was 27% for the poll released Sept. 30. Bush’s popularity has been bumping along in the low 30s to high 20s for several months.

[IamFogHat]

Um, stop being a pussy and cut them off, Brokaw, that's you're fucking job.

[scottinnj]

Jersey already has nukular power. No problems YET!

Now if we can only get rid of Springsteen and the fucking Giants, it'll be paradise.

[KatPw]

Senator McCain is Mentally Unstable?

War fucks you up.

[HBox]

Tom Brokaw is a strict schoolmarm tonight. He'll be whacking their wrists with rulers by the end of the night.

[Friday]

aww... McCain said goodies! that made me giggle


oooh but then he called Obama 'that one'.... no giggles...

[IamFogHat]

Am I not turtle enough?
http://images.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2002/08/02/master_disguise/story.jpg

If you want a failsafe to make someone laugh, I'd go with that. Being not turtlee enough for their turtle club. As bad as that film is.

[epo]

Does McCain look physically uncomfortable compared to Obama?

[scottinnj]

Scott, I'll have to check it out.

My understanding has been that Obama was the only major candidate to release them this year. I hope I'm wrong.

Okey Dokey. I don't think Obama is hiding anything, but it is our right to see the records. Of all of them.

[yojimbo7248]

drilling is a non-issue in the short term. McCain knows this.

[brettmojo]

OIL IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!! Holy shit.

[DarkHippie]

did mccain just refer to obama as 'that one?'

[GreatAmericanZero]

Holy shit, is there anyone in this country who likes Bush?

the president or the pubic hair style?

either way, i say no

[scottinnj]

Does McCain look physically uncomfortable compared to Obama?

He looks like he is in a lot of pain. Real pain.

[epo]

OIL IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!! Holy shit.

Exactly. It's like we are drunks and they want to offer us a different drink.

Get us out of the bar!

[SinA]

Senator McCain is Mentally Unstable?

Sarah Palin is Mentally Unable?

[Hottub]

OIL IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!! Holy shit.

It is if your VP is the Governor of Alaska.:wink:

[brettmojo]

aww... McCain said goodies! that made me giggle


oooh but then he called Obama 'that one'.... no giggles...
He's gonning drop the N-bomb, I know it.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Obama just said we have a moral conundrum!

OH NO A MORAL CONUNDRUM!


Wheres sleeves?

[Friday]

Exactly. It's like we are drunks and they want to offer us a different drink.

Get us out of the bar!

damn skippy!

there are cheaper drinks at home!!!!

[scottinnj]

OIL IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!! Holy shit.

Unfortunately, for the next 20 years while we put online alternatives to faze it out, it is still going to be the main answer.

[HBox]

Okey Dokey. I don't think Obama is hiding anything, but it is our right to see the records. Of all of them.

I hear he's listed as an African-American in those records.

He probably wants to keep that under wraps.

[mendyweiss]

I Have A Hard-On Right Now, And Nowhere To Put It !

[danner1515]

Holy shit, is there anyone in this country who likes Bush?

There are several Bush defenders in my family. Over the Fourth of July I got to hear things like, "Oh, it's ALL Bush's fault!" in sarcastic tones when the subject of politics came up.

[AKA]

did mccain just refer to obama as 'that one?'

YES!

I wish I really was drinking something so I could have spit it out.

What a fucking ass.

[epo]

"Taxing your coverage".

This is a nuclear bomb. McCain must answer this right or he's done RIGHT NOW.

[KatPw]

I would very much like to have heath coverage, and from what I have read of McCain's plan I don't want the plan he is proposing.

[IamFogHat]

I'm sorry, it must be said, Republicans think money will solve everything.

[Misteriosa]

I would very much like to have heath coverage, and from what I have read of McCain's plan I don't want the plan he is proposing.

aint that something? a health care worker cant benefit from the services she provides...

[Hottub]

*BUZZ*

Sorray. Sorray.

[Friday]

I would very much like to have heath coverage, and from what I have read of McCain's plan I don't want the plan he is proposing.

x2

i, too, would enjoy having health b-b-benefits.


wheee stuttering!

[danner1515]

Ouch, was that a hair transplant jab at Biden I just heard?

[tele7]

hair transplants!!!...ohhh...snap!!

[KatPw]

aint that something? a health care worker cant benefit from the services she provides...

I'm fortunate at least to have free dental. Mike only gets a discount.

[Caseyelan]

Watching mccain walk....

I am reminded of the time in elementary school I was the cliched tree. I had to walk around all awkward with that big cardboard cutout.

Mccain doesn't have the tree though.

[MacVittie]

wow, a shot at Biden's hair plugs

[brettmojo]

I'm sorry, it must be said, Republicans think money will solve everything.
It worked in Iraq, that place is like Disney Land now.

[HBox]

I laughed out loud at McCain's hair transplant joke. Not the joke itself, but the way those lines on CNN cratered after it.

[scottinnj]

I hear he's listed as an African-American in those records.

He probably wants to keep that under wraps.

:clap:

[yojimbo7248]

"Taxing your coverage".

This is a nuclear bomb. McCain must answer this right or he's done RIGHT NOW.

wow, really? do you think McCain is addressing it well enough? that's what's great about having a viewing thread. I didn't recognize that as damaging as you did.

[Hottub]

Hairplugs = funny.
2 points.

[Misteriosa]

health care is a right!

the ability to be healthy is a basic human right!! not something to be exploited

medical care is fucking extortion

[tele7]

I laughed out loud at McCain's hair transplant joke. Not the joke itself, but the way those lines on CNN cratered after it.

That one line will bite him in the ass

[scottinnj]

I'm glad Obama called out McCain's tax on health care premium.

[Tallman388]

asthma is an illness?

[biozombie]

health care is a right!

the ability to be healthy is a basic human right!! not something to be exploited

medical care is fucking extortion

true dat.

[epo]

wow, really? do you think McCain is addressing it well enough? that's what's great about having a viewing thread. I didn't recognize that as damaging as you did.

I'm glad Obama called out McCain's tax on health care premium.

McCain gave a horseshit answer by ignoring the tax on benefits. That tells me everything.

This is a HUGE issue.

[Friday]

wow, really? do you think McCain is addressing it well enough? that's what's great about having a viewing thread. I didn't recognize that as damaging as you did.

epo is Super Demo

[Hottub]

health care is a right!

the ability to be healthy is a basic human right!! not something to be exploited

medical care is fucking extortion

A right, sure. But not the responsibility of the Federal government.

[KatPw]

I had to deal with the insurance companies on behalf of both my parents, it was hell. Not the the hospitals were innocent either. They tried to bill us for a procedure on my dad, that was dated 3 days after he died. Yeah, fuck that shit. And I deal with the the insurance companies at work all the time, the stalling tactics of theirs are amazing.

[Friday]

asthma is an illness?

um, YES.

i have the ER bills to prove it.

[Misteriosa]

asthma is an illness?

oh yes... its a serious illness... i live and work in an area that has EXTREMELY high asthma rates. ive had asthma my whole life. imagine someone sitting on your chest or try breathing thru a straw... thats asthma

[biozombie]

Is it me or is Obama doing a pretty good job here?

[brettmojo]

Wow. John. Stop. The jokes.

[danner1515]

Ugh, McCain's attempts at humor are just awkward and uncomfortable. I don't know how much more of this I can sit through.

[Friday]

A right, sure. But not the responsibility of the Federal government.

oh no?

you do realize that most other non-third world governments provide basic healthcare to all citizens, don't you?

[NickyL0885]

Is it me or is Obama doing a pretty good job here?

but but......did anyone hear the fine? ANYONE!?

[epo]

A right, sure. But not the responsibility of the Federal government.

But essentially it becomes one. The poor ignore preventive care then hit urgent care/emergency room care while uninsured, causing a burden for the rest of us to pay through the government/private insurers.

Why not be pro-active with that issue? It would save us a shitload of money in taxes/premiums.

[KatPw]

um, YES.

i have the ER bills to prove it.

oh yes... its a serious illness... i live and work in an area that has EXTREMELY high asthma rates. ive had asthma my whole life. imagine someone sitting on your chest or try breathing thru a straw... thats asthma

We can start a club. I'm stocking up on primatene mist inhalers before the ban. I can control it on my own for the most part, but every once in a while I need some help and I can't afford the prescription drugs. And I refuse to ever go on another steroidal inhaler again.

[scottinnj]

I supported McCain's vote against the expansion of CHIP. It would have made government pay for health care premiums of kids that come from households in the same tax bracket as my wife and I. There are a lot of things I bitch about price-wise, but we can afford our own health insurance.

[yojimbo7248]

Is it me or is Obama doing a pretty good job here?

I was going to write the same thing. He instills confidence much more than McCain. "on the job training' and other jabs seem to fall flat to me.

[DarkHippie]

mccain's humor is worse than Staples

[Hottub]

oh no?

you do realize that most other non-third world governments provide basic healthcare to all citizens, don't you?

1. We are becoming a third world country. Make no mistake.

2. The Fed is responsible for delivering the mail, maintaining the roads, minting money, defending the borders. The constitution is pretty clear on that.

[epo]

If you notice, Obama sits while McCain speaks, while McCain stands/wanders while Obama speaks. Kind of disrespectful body language.

[GreatAmericanZero]

mccain's humor is worse than Staples

haha..a genuine "Laugh out Loud"

[booster11373]

mccain's humor is worse than Staples

You go to far Sir!

[K.C.]

http://www.shiar.org/happy/tv/cdancer.gif


"Old grey mare, she ain't what she used to be....ain't what she used to be.....ain't what she used to be..."

[biozombie]

I was originally going to say "kicking ass", which seemed too strong. I think, for some people, Obama just jammed a foot in his mouth since a lot of people still think Iraq was behind 9/11...

[Friday]

We can start a club. I'm stocking up on primatene mist inhalers before the ban. I can control it on my own for the most part, but every once in a while I need some help and I can't afford the prescription drugs. And I refuse to ever go on another steroidal inhaler again.

i tried Primatene when i lost my insurance and learned that in some people, that OTC drug can actually WORSEN the bronchial inflamation. I am one of those people!

and they just discontinued my Abuterol inhaler so now I have a new Abuterol Sulfate Inhaler that is about $12 more than before. Fucking pharmaceutical fuckers. Thank god my doc gives me Singulair samples...

[epo]

Watching the Ohio uncommitted lines on CNN is pretty shocking. McCain has NO heat with these people, while they seem to dig Obama.

[Misteriosa]

my insurance doesnt cover the asthma meds... i end up splitting a script with my mom. her insurance covers them. my asthma has worsened considerably since i started at my job. it doesnt help that i work near the triboro...

[celery]

I was originally going to say "kicking ass", which seemed too strong. I think, for some people, Obama just jammed a foot in his mouth since a lot of people still think Iraq was behind 9/11...

These same people will be voting for McCain no matter what.

[scottinnj]

A right, sure. But not the responsibility of the Federal government.

It's both. It's the responsibility of Americans, especially if you have kids to have healthcare insurance.

It's also the responsibility of the Federal Government to make sure you don't have to choose between your house and the copays for oncology treatment.

Also children have a right to healthcare, no matter what their parents provide for them.

[epo]

I was originally going to say "kicking ass", which seemed too strong. I think, for some people, Obama just jammed a foot in his mouth since a lot of people still think Iraq was behind 9/11...

That would have been a great point in 2004.

Now the only outliers on that one watch Hannity.

[DarkHippie]

i tried Primatene when i lost my insurance and learned that in some people, that OTC drug can actually WORSEN the bronchial inflamation. I am one of those people!

and they just discontinued my Abuterol inhaler so now I have a new Abuterol Sulfate Inhaler that is about $12 more than before. Fucking pharmaceutical fuckers. Thank god my doc gives me Singulair samples...

i feel your pain, sweetie. they did the same thing to me.

[Kevin]

I was originally going to say "kicking ass", which seemed too strong. I think, for some people, Obama just jammed a foot in his mouth since a lot of people still think Iraq was behind 9/11...

Those would be idiots. And you cant change thier minds anyway.

[yojimbo7248]

I have friends who are Hillary fans and think that Obama doesn't fight hard enough. I don't see that tonight. I think he is standing up for his position well, even if he doesn't raise his voice. You don't need to scream or screech to be tough.

[biozombie]

...a lot of fine, wheezy, women around here...

[booster11373]

These same people will be voting for McCain no matter what.

The "love it or leave it" crowd

[epo]

I have friends who are Hillary fans and think that Obama doesn't fight hard enough. I don't see that tonight. I think he is standing up for his position well, even if he doesn't raise his voice. You don't need to scream or screech to be tough.

He can't raise his voice or he'd be "an angry black man".

[DarkHippie]

You don't need to scream or screech to be tough.

that would be the Hillary method

[KatPw]

i tried Primatene when i lost my insurance and learned that in some people, that OTC drug can actually WORSEN the bronchial inflamation. I am one of those people!

and they just discontinued my Abuterol inhaler so now I have a new Abuterol Sulfate Inhaler that is about $12 more than before. Fucking pharmaceutical fuckers. Thank god my doc gives me Singulair samples...
Yeah, some people have a really bad reaction to it. I don't know why it happens, but that is scary shit. I'm lucky that way. Usually I'm over sensitive to medications, but primatene is okay for me. Allergy meds are the things I really need to stay away from, I get horrible nosebleeds regardless of brand or dose, and many seem to fuck with my cognitive ability, and I don't like that one bit.

[scottinnj]

If you notice, Obama sits while McCain speaks, while McCain stands/wanders while Obama speaks. Kind of disrespectful body language.

They do that-usually they're looking for their glasses, or they don't like their lunch and are wandering the halls looking for someone to trade their egg salad sandwich with.

At least that's how it is at the nursing home my wife works in. They're all just wandering the hallways.

[biozombie]

I love it whenever any politician has to tell us what The United States of America is really about...

[rob126]

I have friends who are Hillary fans and think that Obama doesn't fight hard enough. I don't see that tonight. I think he is standing up for his position well, even if he doesn't raise his voice. You don't need to scream or screech to be tough.

I don't think he needs to fight harder . Part of his appeal has been getting his message out without constantly attacking his opponent .

[epo]

McCain just said that President Reagan was his hero.

Liar!

You've ALWAYS claimed your hero is President Teddy Roosevelt!

(I know way tooooo much about this shit!)

[GreatAmericanZero]

Mccain's thing about "obama will bring the troops home with defeat, i will bring them home in dignity and honor"

fuck dignity and honor..just get them out

like i give a fuck about some high school jock's "dignity and honor"

End it already!

[biozombie]

it looks like McCain is trying to point at things with his elbow.

[DarkHippie]

The "love it or leave it" crowd

the people who love america like its a football team. WE'RE NUMBER 1!! WE'RE NUMBER 1!!

Idiots. they love america cause they were born there. They'd feel the same way if they were Ugandan

[KatPw]

my insurance doesnt cover the asthma meds... i end up splitting a script with my mom. her insurance covers them. my asthma has worsened considerably since i started at my job. it doesnt help that i work near the triboro...

When you get home from work, make sure you change your close, and wash your face and brush out your hair. This will help lessen the allergen triggers that you've picked up.

[ScottFromGA]

wow....she must be a democrat.

[scottinnj]

Mccain's thing about "obama will bring the troops home with defeat, i will bring them home in dignity and honor"

fuck dignity and honor..just get them out

like i give a fuck about some high school jock's "dignity and honor"

End it already!

Apparantly Ohio voters are with you....the chart on CNN was flat while he talked about that.

They want out no matter what happens to Iraq.

[Friday]

Yeah, some people have a really bad reaction to it. I don't know why it happens, but that is scary shit. I'm lucky that way. Usually I'm over sensitive to medications, but primatene is okay for me. Allergy meds are the things I really need to stay away from, I get horrible nosebleeds regardless of brand or dose, and many seem to fuck with my cognitive ability, and I don't like that one bit.

haha
my brother tried Zyrtec years ago and it gave him hallucinations.... i inherited those pretty quickly!

[epo]

By the way, I hear gigantic rumors that Senator Obama might keep Secretary Gates in charge of Defense if elected. That could be a great decision.

[Friday]

(I know way tooooo much about this shit!)

SUUUPER DEMO!!!

[ScottFromGA]

Teddy is his hero.

[GreatAmericanZero]

McCain just said that President Reagan was his hero.

Liar!

You've ALWAYS claimed your hero is President Teddy Roosevelt!

(I know way tooooo much about this shit!)

haha he just said it now haha

[scottinnj]

Is it just me or does anyone else hate the way Obama says "Pakistan"

[HBox]

McCain just said that President Reagan was his hero.

Liar!

You've ALWAYS claimed your hero is President Teddy Roosevelt!

(I know way tooooo much about this shit!)

He got your memo.

[Caseyelan]

Mccain has a lot of heroes.

Ok... Laundry then bed.


OBAMA 08!

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[KatPw]

haha
my brother tried Zyrtec years ago and it gave him hallucinations.... i inherited those pretty quickly!

OMG, I hope he wasn't driving or at work at the time!

[DarkHippie]

obama likes to talk loudly? have you been listening to him?

[epo]

MY HERO was Teddy Roosevelt!

In under 5 minutes Senator McCain proves my point! HAHAHAHA!

[MacVittie]

ummm... I think McCain just messed up that quote, it's "Walk softly..."

[GreatAmericanZero]

Apparantly Ohio voters are with you....the chart on CNN was flat while he talked about that.

They want out no matter what happens to Iraq.

I know Ohio. We want the war to end and we don't give relocated New Yorkers any buybacks on beers (wtf)

And im technically in Northern Kentucky, but i prefer to drink in Ohio

[rob126]

Didn't Palin say we should attack Pakistan too ? Why doesn't McCain mention that ?

[KatPw]

Mccain has a lot of heroes.

Ok... Laundry then bed.


OBAMA 08!

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:lol: I want that chair.