Kill The Listening Threads

[GregoryJoseph]

Al Dukes was right; the advent of the listening thread has been the death knell for show conversation on the message boards. At first I disagreed with him, but now I see his point and he was dead on.

I know it's a blast to hang out there and chat with your buddies while you're all listening to the show, but once it's over this entire place becomes one giant chat room and any and all link to the Ron and Fez show disappears. Everything but the show is discussed, and it generally turns into a wasteland of hack bits, tired jokes, and internet geeks creepily hitting on the female members.

Instead of a reactionary "Fuck that!" just think about it. Instead of numerous threads on the various topics discussed on the show it's one run on thread of pics of hot chicks, discussion of what's for lunch, and an occasional "lol" at what Ron has just said. The listening thread stifles any and all interaction with the show and really makes RonFez.net an old-time AOL chatroom more than a fan site.

[PapaBear]

No it hasn't.

[Slumbag]

Not gonna happen.

[GregoryJoseph]

No it hasn't.

Brilliant.

Thanks for the deep thoughts and analysis.

[weekapaugjz]

fuck that!

[PapaBear]

Brilliant.

Thanks for the deep thoughts and analysis.
You're welcome.

[Gia]

:thumbdown: bad idea

[hammersavage]

Nay!

[PapaBear]

Well. That settles that.

[Marc with a c]

nice jib.

couldn't agree more sir.

[Sue_Bender]

My AIDS has become inflamed.

[MacVittie]

just don't partake in the thread. or create your own, listening-thread free board. I'll be the first to make the jump over.

[donnie_darko]

Al Dukes was right

the first sign that what you're saying is wrong.

[Chimee]

I'm a big fan of killing the messenger.

[Hottub]

If you don't like the Listening Threads, don't read them.
If you feel a show related thread should be started, do it.
People have no problem complaining, but when it's time to take action, well...

Al Dukes was right LOTD!:clap:

[GreatAmericanZero]

Al Dukes was right; the advent of the listening thread has been the death knell for show conversation on the message boards. At first I disagreed with him, but now I see his point and he was dead on.

I know it's a blast to hang out there and chat with your buddies while you're all listening to the show, but once it's over this entire place becomes one giant chat room and any and all link to the Ron and Fez show disappears. Everything but the show is discussed, and it generally turns into a wasteland of hack bits, tired jokes, and internet geeks creepily hitting on the female members.

Instead of a reactionary "Fuck that!" just think about it. Instead of numerous threads on the various topics discussed on the show it's one run on thread of pics of hot chicks, discussion of what's for lunch, and an occasional "lol" at what Ron has just said. The listening thread stifles any and all interaction with the show and really makes RonFez.net an old-time AOL chatroom more than a fan site.

dude, you are a poster on ronfez.net. you have the power to start any thread you want

you can't yell at a messageboard "you aren't starting enough topics about the show" when you aren't either

i do agree, it does surprise me how much important topics come up on the show and then theres no discussion threads about them...but i have no problem taking the initiative and starting a thread when i think its something that should be discussed further (outside of the listening thread)

so my point is, their can easily be both.

[Don Stugots]

Kill the wabbit

[biggestmexi]

Al Dukes was right; the advent of the listening thread has been the death knell for show conversation on the message boards. At first I disagreed with him, but now I see his point and he was dead on.

I know it's a blast to hang out there and chat with your buddies while you're all listening to the show, but once it's over this entire place becomes one giant chat room and any and all link to the Ron and Fez show disappears. Everything but the show is discussed, and it generally turns into a wasteland of hack bits, tired jokes, and internet geeks creepily hitting on the female members.

Instead of a reactionary "Fuck that!" just think about it. Instead of numerous threads on the various topics discussed on the show it's one run on thread of pics of hot chicks, discussion of what's for lunch, and an occasional "lol" at what Ron has just said. The listening thread stifles any and all interaction with the show and really makes RonFez.net an old-time AOL chatroom more than a fan site.

Thats Deep.

[disneyspy]

is gaz gay?

[Hottub]

It don't make him a bad person.

[drjoek]

This idea came up not too long ago. It turned into a big hubub about Sheepy starting too many threads and favoritism and the like.People ended up being banned leaving mock threads were started. Anarchy broke out
I wasn't aware there were rules on how a board had to be. The posters post what they want some people like a listening thread some don't. And what are these "IMPORTANT" topics that are being brought up that need topic threads? Its a talk show that does a great job of entertaining me. I don't see us stopping world hunger or fixing the economy here. The Al Dukes line was excellent.

[Heather 8]

fuck that!

Fuck that?

Fuck him!

[IMSlacker]

This idea came up not too long ago. It turned into a big hubub about Sheepy starting too many threads and favoritism and the like.People ended up being banned leaving mock threads were started. Anarchy broke out.

That was also what brought about the removal of tagging privileges. No good can come from show topic threads.

[biggestmexi]

Fuck that?

Fuck him!

Is that a fraction?
:happy:

[reillyluck]

um...No, but thanks for playing.

[Freakshow]

Kill the non listening threads!





Starting with this one.

[reillyluck]

on a serious note, this comes up from time to time, so rather than me go on and on about how great i think they are, i'll just quote myself from a previous "listening thread" thread.

i personally love them because that's what brought me here to begin with. i love the interaction between fellow fans. The threads are long, but that just shows you that people are interacting the whole time during the show. it's great when something incredible on the show happens and you feel like you are listening all together rather than alone.

you can express your reactions at that moment with other people instead of looking over your shoulder at work and look at the person sitting next to you and they have no clue about what just happened.

I love the listening threads because I love to read other peoples reactions to ron and fez instantly. People may not like the threads, but i know a lot of people who love them and that's what matters to me. I've made incredible friends on this board because of that thread and i am proud to have my name labeled as the Moderator for that forum.

so go screwwwwwwwwww. :tongue:

[MisterSmith]

I know it's been said, but F-it, I wanna chime in too. :thumbup:

If you don't like the listening threads, don't participate in them. That's easy enough. Not everybody likes everything and that is what makes us all unique.

Do you want to see more stuff from the show discussed in depth? Start a thread about it. Lord knows there are a lot of worthless, BS threads that start up around here; if a thread is worth it then it will stick around and people will participate.

If you want a paradigm shift on the board, start it. If enough people dig what you are doing it will work; if not, it won't.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

The only thing I ever liked about the Listening Threads was posted on page 12.

[disneyspy]

the first 2 months i was on this board the listenin thread was the only thing i came here for,and that would be when the fba board would be down(happened alot).i dont understand why people would post on a radio show message board that arent participatin in the one thing we all have in common

[RhinoinMN]

The only thing I ever liked about the Listening Threads was posted on page 12.

LET IT BE KNOWN!

[~Katja~]

dude, you are a poster on ronfez.net. you have the power to start any thread you want



unfortunately threads like this one come out of that "power"


seriously budday... just like GAZ said... don't read them and start your own show topic discussion threads... there are plenty of people listening to the show on replay or who record it who might like to chime in and discuss things with you... just stop complaining about other threads... cause if you don't like them you have the CHOICE to not read and participate in them.

[Furtherman]

You "listening" people are not doing things the way I like them! Think about it, my way is better! Different!

Right.


Just be sure to label a thread correctly, so people know what it is about and then you'll have no problem starting up a discussion.

[Knowledged_one]

Didnt ron cover this very topic in his last blog

[Freakshow]

Kill the Listening Threads.

And kill whitey.

[Freitag]

I just ran through the old SAT anology game in my head

Christopher Robin is to MafiaLifeChris as GregoryJoseph is to....

[Knowledged_one]

Tenbats?

[reillyluck]

chanukah harry?

[Freakshow]

Jon Lovitz?

[Thebazile78]

I just ran through the old SAT anology game in my head

Christopher Robert is to MafiaLifeChris as GregoryJoseph is to....

FIFY

And I know the answer.

[Freitag]

FIFY

And I know the answer.

Allen Iverson?

[Thebazile78]

Allen Iverson?

No, silly, Walt Frazier.

[topless_mike]

Christopher Robin is to MafiaLifeChris as GregoryJoseph is to....

Laurie Main?

[cougarjake13]

fuck that

[weekapaugjz]

fuck that!

fuck that

Thanks for playing.

[drucifer]

Wha? I have to read as well as listen?

But it makes me sleepy.

[GregoryJoseph]

I'm going to put together an investigative report. I'll go through the last 25, 30 listening threads and see what percentage of posts are actually about the show.

If it's over 10 percent I'll be shocked.

An hour and a half before the show today's "listening thread" was already on the second page.

So silly.

[IMSlacker]

Will opening song guesses count as being about the show?

[reillyluck]

I'm going to put together an investigative report. I'll go through the last 25, 30 listening threads and see what percentage of posts are actually about the show.

If it's over 10 percent I'll be shocked.

An hour and a half before the show today's "listening thread" was already on the second page.

So silly.

85.9% of your posts are complaints. Just sayin. :smoke:

[Freakshow]

kill all humans!

[GregoryJoseph]

85.9% of your posts are complaints. Just sayin. :smoke:

Not complaints, suggestions to improve this place and make it more of a site about the show, NOT the members.

I know that sounds terrifying to some.

[reillyluck]

Not complaints, suggestions to improve this place and make it more of a site about the show, NOT the members.

I know that sounds terrifying to some.

shivers.

[disneyspy]

I just ran through the old SAT anology game in my head

Christopher Robin is to MafiaLifeChris as GregoryJoseph is to....

GBatman

[GregoryJoseph]

More pages = more gooder.

You're welcome.

[Turd Fergusson]

Al Dukes was right; the advent of the listening thread has been the death knell for show conversation on the message boards. At first I disagreed with him, but now I see his point and he was dead on.

I know it's a blast to hang out there and chat with your buddies while you're all listening to the show, but once it's over this entire place becomes one giant chat room and any and all link to the Ron and Fez show disappears. Everything but the show is discussed, and it generally turns into a wasteland of hack bits, tired jokes, and internet geeks creepily hitting on the female members.

Instead of a reactionary "Fuck that!" just think about it. Instead of numerous threads on the various topics discussed on the show it's one run on thread of pics of hot chicks, discussion of what's for lunch, and an occasional "lol" at what Ron has just said. The listening thread stifles any and all interaction with the show and really makes RonFez.net an old-time AOL chatroom more than a fan site.

I actually agree with you. I don't really have the time or ability to read and post in listening threads. I like to check out the boards at night at see what people have to say about the show topics. I understand that I can start any topic I want, but it's really not my in my message board personality to do so.

I made a post similar to yours once upon a time on a different board, and was denounced due to a low post count. oh well.

[Freakshow]

I ran my own analysis about the listening threads, using randomly selected 8/19/2008's thread.

.7% of posts were prediciting the opening song
.2% of posts were about board members calling the show
1.0% of posts commented about the opening quote and song
2.1% of posts were commening about that day being hump day
.7% of posts were about GVAC

[PapaBear]

Al Dukes was right; the advent of the listening thread has been the death knell for show conversation on the message boards. At first I disagreed with him, but now I see his point and he was dead on.

I know it's a blast to hang out there and chat with your buddies while you're all listening to the show, but once it's over this entire place becomes one giant chat room and any and all link to the Ron and Fez show disappears. Everything but the show is discussed, and it generally turns into a wasteland of hack bits, tired jokes, and internet geeks creepily hitting on the female members.

Instead of a reactionary "Fuck that!" just think about it. Instead of numerous threads on the various topics discussed on the show it's one run on thread of pics of hot chicks, discussion of what's for lunch, and an occasional "lol" at what Ron has just said. The listening thread stifles any and all interaction with the show and really makes RonFez.net an old-time AOL chatroom more than a fan site.

Not counting "sticky threads" there have been 33 threads active about the show, topics discussed on the show, and the people on the show in the past 2 days. Explain to me how people aren't discussing the show on here.

[jennysmurf]

Not complaints, suggestions to improve this place and make it more of a site about the show, NOT the members.

I know that sounds terrifying to some.

It is about the show--we're all here because we love Ron and Fez. And you're not listening to what people are saying to you; start your own threads about things that come up. If it's an interesting topic, people will respond. I really enjoy the listening thread, and when I'm listening to the replay, I pull up the thread to see what people said during the live show. Your suggestion is fine, just don't try to take away something that alot of the board members enjoy.

[led37zep]

I ran my own analysis about the listening threads, using randomly selected 8/19/2008's thread.

.7% of posts were prediciting the opening song
.2% of posts were about board members calling the show
1.0% of posts commented about the opening quote and song
2.1% of posts were commening about that day being hump day
.7% of posts were about GVAC

I remember that day...Lots of humping going on.


Oh...and the listening thread rules

[Friday]

It is about the show--we're all here because we love Ron and Fez. And you're not listening to what people are saying to you; start your own threads about things that come up. If it's an interesting topic, people will respond. I really enjoy the listening thread, and when I'm listening to the replay, I pull up the thread to see what people said during the live show. Your suggestion is fine, just don't try to take away something that alot of the board members enjoy.

well said, miss!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

well said, miss!

HE'S A SHE?!!? :blink:

[jennysmurf]

HE'S A SHE?!!? :blink:

Yes, I am. Wanna fight about it?

[PapaBear]

HE'S A SHE?!!? :blink:
Yeah. The jenny part can really throw you off.

[jennysmurf]

Yeah. The jenny part can really throw you off.

Yeah, and would The Fonz give the "AAAAYYYY" sign to a dude? I think not.:thumbup:

[PapaBear]

Yeah, and would The Fonz give the "AAAAYYYY" sign to a dude? I think not.:thumbup:
I thought he was giving it to me for all my great posts.:annoyed:

[jennysmurf]

I thought he was giving it to me for all my great posts.:annoyed:

Your's is implied. He didn't wanna look gay.

[Gvac]

This past Monday Ron brought up yet again his displeasure with ronfez.net listening threads and even mentioned how they've hurt the show with sponsors and potential guests. He said "I'd never tell mikeyboy how to run that board, but now I have to send prospective guests to another site."

I just find it weird that Ron and Fez allow their names and likenesses to be used here but the owners of this place have a "fuck them" attitude when it comes to addressing certain issues.

I guess increased hits = increased advertising, and if the listening threads generate revenue, fuck what Ron and Fez have to say about them.

[Freakshow]

I doubt getting rid of the listening threads would get rid of the negativity that is present on the board towards guests. If anything it would make it easier to find, since someone would no doubt start a thread with the topic 'x guest sucks,' if they weren't able to post it in the listening thread. Like this week's guest Al Roker, how hard is to find the thread praising Jimmy and bashing Roker????

[~Katja~]

This past Monday Ron brought up yet again his displeasure with ronfez.net listening threads and even mentioned how they've hurt the show with sponsors and potential guests. He said "I'd never tell mikeyboy how to run that board, but now I have to send prospective guests to another site."

I just find it weird that Ron and Fez allow their names and likenesses to be used here but the owners of this place have a "fuck them" attitude when it comes to addressing certain issues.

I guess increased hits = increased advertising, and if the listening threads generate revenue, fuck what Ron and Fez have to say about them.

I don't understand how a listening thread can hurt the show with guest booking and sponsors... I doubt they will search through daily listening threads that clearly are just a fun place to discuss and comment things on the show.

They are not show run downs... why would anybody consider what goes on in a show related listening thread with what goes on directly on the show?

[Freakshow]

Ron actually said they were going to the listening threads to see what people wrote about them, he may have been exaggerating, but he did say pretty much those exact words.

[ToiletCrusher]

Given the nature of the internet and its constant use for bashing all things, I am surprised that Ron would expect anything less even from a site devoted to the show. That said, I do find it interesting how much bashing of things show related here. But, despite the bashing, there is a tremendous amount of support as well. There is negativity in the listening thread but I don't know that I would consider it more negative than any other forum on this board. Look at the MLC threads as an example. So, get rid of them or keep them. Either way, people will still post dick comments whenever they want.

[Knowledged_one]

This past Monday Ron brought up yet again his displeasure with ronfez.net listening threads and even mentioned how they've hurt the show with sponsors and potential guests. He said "I'd never tell mikeyboy how to run that board, but now I have to send prospective guests to another site."

I just find it weird that Ron and Fez allow their names and likenesses to be used here but the owners of this place have a "fuck them" attitude when it comes to addressing certain issues.

I guess increased hits = increased advertising, and if the listening threads generate revenue, fuck what Ron and Fez have to say about them.

i like the cut of your 2 x 4, do you have a newsletter i can subscribe to. But there should be a happy medium to show content and other threads as this place has evolved from a fan site to a social site imo. Also, and i am sure this will draw some ire, but isnt it a tad hypocritical of ron to criticize this site in regards to guests and then sabotage a guest appearance and potentially ruin a relationship with a pr person a day later

[mikeyboy]

This past Monday Ron brought up yet again his displeasure with ronfez.net listening threads and even mentioned how they've hurt the show with sponsors and potential guests. He said "I'd never tell mikeyboy how to run that board, but now I have to send prospective guests to another site."

I just find it weird that Ron and Fez allow their names and likenesses to be used here but the owners of this place have a "fuck them" attitude when it comes to addressing certain issues.

I guess increased hits = increased advertising, and if the listening threads generate revenue, fuck what Ron and Fez have to say about them.

You're a piece of work sometimes. Our "fuck them" attitude? Seriously? You have no idea. We had some very serious discussions in the staff room, not of getting rid of the listening threads (which really would only mask the problem -- guests people don't like will get shit on in other places), but of restricting the comments so there can't be negative comments about guests (not friends of the show, but guests brought in by bookers, etc.). It's a tough call, because on one hand it insulates the show. On the other hand, if we implemented it, many people would start screaming about speech restrictions and being under the arm of the show. Frankly, I don't even think we reached a final decision on this, and I would welcome discussion on it.

...and no, it isn't about revenue. I doubt you could quantify whether the listening threads bring in additional revenue, and even if they do, I assume it's not much of an increase. No one is making a profit on this site. No one who runs and moderates this place does it for a job.

[Gvac]

My point is a simple one, and I've stated in numerous times before - the name of this site isn't "Wackbag" or "Spread The Iris", it's RonFez.net.

Even though they don't own it or run it in any way, the names of the hosts are on this place. I just think there's a certain level of responsibility that comes with that, especially with alleged fans.

If the site was renamed "TwoBucksFatGirl.net" for example, I'd say let the rules be damned. But it's not.

I just feel we should be looking out for the best interests of the show, not just our own mindless enjoyment.

[Gvac]

You're a piece of work sometimes. Our "fuck them" attitude? Seriously? You have no idea. We had some very serious discussions in the staff room, not of getting rid of the listening threads (which really would only mask the problem -- guests people don't like will get shit on in other places), but of restricting the comments so there can't be negative comments about guests (not friends of the show, but guests brought in by bookers, etc.). It's a tough call, because on one hand it insulates the show. On the other hand, if we implemented it, many people would start screaming about speech restrictions and being under the arm of the show. Frankly, I don't even think we reached a final decision on this, and I would welcome discussion on it.

...and no, it isn't about revenue. I doubt you could quantify whether the listening threads bring in additional revenue, and even if they do, I assume it's not much of an increase. No one is making a profit on this site. No one who runs and moderates this place does it for a job.

This is what I was looking for.

I'm glad I've made you see it my way.

[mikeyboy]

Also, have the listening threads been as hard on the guests as they used to? I generally don't have the opportunity to follow the listening threads during the show, so I don't regularly check them out. I was of the impression that the XM R&F audience has evolved since 2005 and is more accepting of guests that may not be their cup of tea. Nobody is expecting O&A lite anymore.

[mikeyboy]

This is what I was looking for.

I'm glad I've made you see it my way.

Well, you had nothing to do with it.

[Gvac]

Well, you had nothing to do with it.

Of course I did, but I understand why you can't admit it.

[EliSnow]

This past Monday Ron brought up yet again his displeasure with ronfez.net listening threads and even mentioned how they've hurt the show with sponsors and potential guests. He said "I'd never tell mikeyboy how to run that board, but now I have to send prospective guests to another site."

I just find it weird that Ron and Fez allow their names and likenesses to be used here but the owners of this place have a "fuck them" attitude when it comes to addressing certain issues.

I guess increased hits = increased advertising, and if the listening threads generate revenue, fuck what Ron and Fez have to say about them.

There is no "fuck them" attitude,and you know that.
The owners of the site are as big of RF supporters as anyone here. And most of the posts in every listening thread are positive about the show. And those that are negative usually are responded to by people who disagree.

[mikeyboy]

Of course I did, but I understand why you can't admit it.

The publicly we'll agree to disagree, but internally I'll know I'm right.

[Gvac]

The publicly we'll agree to disagree, but internally I'll know I'm right.

Gotcha! :thumbup:

[~Katja~]

how can you expect a fan of the show not to express their opinion on a guest when even Ron expresses it after an interview, sometimes even while the guest is still in the building?

[MisterSmith]

Actually, fewer crappy fourth-tier guests would probably make things less negative and a little more palatable. :tongue:


But seriously, I think you can either have an honest exchange of ideas and opinions or a bunch of zombies and "Yes Men." If the fans of the show aren't particularly happy that should also be Ron & Fez' concern.

However, it doesn't really matter if you axe the listening threads. People will probably listen whether they can write about the experience or not. Or, they will go to another board to post.

[Gvac]

how can you expect a fan of the show not to express their opinion on a guest when even Ron expresses it after an interview, sometimes even while the guest is still in the building?

I'm all for expressing opinions! I'm a big believer in it.

There is a right way and wrong way, however.

[EliSnow]

Of course I did, but I understand why you can't admit it.

No, you didn't. The question was brought up amongst the "staff" before you brought it up elsewhere.

[Gvac]

No, you didn't. The question was brought up amongst the "staff" before you brought it up elsewhere.

Gotcha! :thumbup:

[EliSnow]

Gotcha! :thumbup:

How is that a "gotcha?". We said it was a tough decision that hasn't been decided. Your post is that because it hasn't been decided the way you want, it means that the owners have a fuck you attitude towards Ron and Fez.

[Gvac]

How is that a "gotcha?". We said it was a tough decision that hasn't been decided. Your post is that because it hasn't been decided the way you want, it means that the owners have a fuck you attitude towards Ron and Fez.

It was a "wink wink" type gotcha!

I know you're really saying you know it was all my idea but you guys have to pretend you thought it up all by yourselves.

I get how the corporate world works, Eli. :wink:

[Serpico1103]

Kill the listeners... listening threads I mean.

[Gvac]

Kill the listeners

Hmmm....

[MisterSmith]

My point is a simple one, and I've stated in numerous times before - the name of this site isn't "Wackbag" or "Spread The Iris", it's RonFez.net.

Even though they don't own it or run it in any way, the names of the hosts are on this place. I just think there's a certain level of responsibility that comes with that, especially with alleged fans.

If the site was renamed "TwoBucksFatGirl.net" for example, I'd say let the rules be damned. But it's not.

I just feel we should be looking out for the best interests of the show, not just our own mindless enjoyment.

GVAC - Are you kidding?

If there is a special level of responsibility attached here, why lie to the hosts and public? Might as well just ban anybody that says anything negative. It will cut out the negativity, but it will also strip the soul of the site, anybody worth their salt will leave, and ronfez.net will just be a hollow shell that doesn't reflect the show in any way.

Or, if you extend your thoughts of responsibility, everybody on the site should boycott the show until Fez is back to 100% and all of the technical issues are solved - force the show to go on hiatus until everybody is "back in shape," a new staff has been hired and trained, and the show runs flawlessly from start to finish.

It doesn't make any sense...

[EliSnow]

It was a "wink wink" type gotcha!

I know you're really saying you know it was all my idea but you guys have to pretend you thought it up all by yourselves.

I get how the corporate world works, Eli. :wink:

Does your shoulder have calluses where you keep patting it?

[~Katja~]

I'm all for expressing opinions! I'm a big believer in it.

There is a right way and wrong way, however.

so Ron mocking a guest on air is the right way, a handful of listeners in the listening thread writing zzzzzzzzzzs is the wrong way???

I don't know, but I think the guests could be prepped better as to what to expect when they go on the Ron & Fez show... some people that lead very serious interviews with Ron may actually lighten up and joke a it more, as it seems that those are the guests that only a few selected people enjoy and the rest finds boring.
Why leave it up to the guest to research the show and stumble upon listening threads and negative comments? How about giving them a good amount of info before hand and some positive feed back as a follow up after and the issue of a listener snoozing in the listening thread will not be an issue at all.

[Gvac]

GVAC - Are you kidding?

If there is a special level of responsibility attached here, why lie to the hosts and public? Might as well just ban anybody that says anything negative. It will cut out the negativity, but it will also strip the soul of the site, anybody worth their salt will leave, and ronfez.net will just be a hollow shell that doesn't reflect the show in any way.

Or, if you extend your thoughts of responsibility, everybody on the site should boycott the show until Fez is back to 100% and all of the technical issues are solved - force the show to go on hiatus until everybody is "back in shape," a new staff has been hired and trained, and the show runs flawlessly from start to finish.

It doesn't make any sense...

Believe me, the last thing I want is a place that doesn't allow honest discussion and criticism. Hell, I've posted countless times about things I thought didn't work on the show, my frustration with Fez, etc. If this place was ever to become like some other sites (where if you say anything that's not a total ass kiss you get banned) I'd never come here.

I wasn't asking for my thoughts on responsibility to be extended. I was just saying that if the hosts express a concern about something here (for the only time in the 8 or 9 year history of this place) maybe that concern should be addressed.

[Tenbatsuzen]

How about this.

Make the listening threads viewable to people who sign up.

Problem solved.

[Gvac]

How about this.

Make the listening threads viewable to people who sign up.

Problem solved.

Hmmm......

[EliSnow]

Believe me, the last thing I want is a place that doesn't allow honest discussion and criticism. Hell, I've posted countless times about things I thought didn't work on the show, my frustration with Fez, etc. If this place was ever to become like some other sites (where if you say anything that's not a total ass kiss you get banned) I'd never come here.

I wasn't asking for my thoughts on responsibility to be extended. I was just saying that if the hosts express a concern about something here (for the only time in the 8 or 9 year history of this place) maybe that concern should be addressed.

No, you accused. Mikeyboy, justjon and others of being selfish for not having addressed it.

[Bossanova]

so Ron mocking a guest on air is the right way, a handful of listeners in the listening thread writing zzzzzzzzzzs is the wrong way???

I don't know, but I think the guests could be prepped better as to what to expect when they go on the Ron & Fez show... some people that lead very serious interviews with Ron may actually lighten up and joke a it more, as it seems that those are the guests that only a few selected people enjoy and the rest finds boring.
Why leave it up to the guest to research the show and stumble upon listening threads and negative comments? How about giving them a good amount of info before hand and some positive feed back as a follow up after and the issue of a listener snoozing in the listening thread will not be an issue at all.

Im not even reading your post because its too long. As a whole this board has been negative on every front when it comes to guests. Ron and Gvac's point is, if you want more than 4th teir guests why not try being more positive. (Im pulling a name out here) Geaorge Clooney isnt doing their show if he will be shit on. John Mayer hasnt been back since everyone shit on him for being busy. We have been down right nastty at times. Stop being cunty at Gvac because he wants the listening thread to be positive and support the show.

[Gvac]

No, you accused. Mikeyboy, justjon and others of being selfish for not having addressed it.

Exactly! And did it stir up debate, conversation, and possibly a fair and intelligent solution?

[Bossanova]

No, you accused. Mikeyboy, justjon and others of being selfish for not having addressed it.

I don't think I like this side of Eli

[RhinoinMN]

If the site was renamed "TwoBucksFatGirl.net" for example, I'd say let the rules be damned.

Oh sweet Jesus, please let said site exist.

[Gvac]

Oh sweet Jesus, please let said site exist.

I'm sure MafiaLifeChris has already bought the domain name so it redirects to SpreadTheIris!

[RhinoinMN]

How about this.

Make the listening threads viewable to people who sign up.

Problem solved.

brilliant.

[MisterSmith]

Believe me, the last thing I want is a place that doesn't allow honest discussion and criticism. Hell, I've posted countless times about things I thought didn't work on the show, my frustration with Fez, etc. If this place was ever to become like some other sites (where if you say anything that's not a total ass kiss you get banned) I'd never come here.

I wasn't asking for my thoughts on responsibility to be extended. I was just saying that if the hosts express a concern about something here (for the only time in the 8 or 9 year history of this place) maybe that concern should be addressed.

I agree with you to an extent, but I hold more tightly to the opinion that if a guest sucks there is no reason to hide it. Hammering guests for no good reason is one thing, but bad guests are another.

I would also posit that Ron is probably less angry at the board than he is at the suck job the staff does getting good guests. That frustration is compounded when bad fan reaction to bad guests is used as an excuse by publicists and bookers.

The real fact is that there isn't anybody on the staff fighting for the show in the right way and securing good guests. Fez has started to give it a shot - which I applaud him for - but there is still a distance to go.

[RhinoinMN]

I'm sure MafiaLifeChris has already bought the domain name so it redirects to SpreadTheIris!

I guess once the net becomes large enough, one can afford moist tobacco leaves.

[~Katja~]

Im not even reading your post because its too long. As a whole this board has been negative on every front when it comes to guests. Ron and Gvac's point is, if you want more than 4th teir guests why not try being more positive. (Im pulling a name out here) Geaorge Clooney isnt doing their show if he will be shit on. John Mayer hasnt been back since everyone shit on him for being busy. We have been down right nastty at times. Stop being cunty at Gvac because he wants the listening thread to be positive and support the show.

I am not being cunty at gvac.
Maybe you should read the entire post.

I also can say that in general it is never more than a hand full of people that will post or start threads about guests they disliked.
It hardly represents the entire R&F community or the typical listener.
Any grownup getting upset over what some unknown most likely old, fatty & sweaty listener angrily types on a message board would not have enough brains to understand the show and it's humor to begin with...

[Tenbatsuzen]

um...

I just presented an easily implemented solution. Why are people still fighting?

[RhinoinMN]

um...

I just presented an easily implemented solution. Why are people still fighting?

I'm with you.

[EliSnow]

Exactly! And did it stir up debate, conversation, and possibly a fair and intelligent solution?

You can do that by posing the question as to whether we need to act differently as opposed to casting aspersions on people right off the bat.

[Gvac]

um...

I just presented an easily implemented solution. Why are people still fighting?

Because it's a Wednesday night and we're bored!

And it really was a great idea.

They'll never give you credit for it, though. Just warnin' ya.

[~Katja~]

um...

I just presented an easily implemented solution. Why are people still fighting?

and I like your solution.

[MisterSmith]

um...

I just presented an easily implemented solution. Why are people still fighting?

Because most of us have you on our ignore list. :laugh:



The joke being that I responded so I obviously don't.

[~Katja~]

Because it's a Wednesday night and we're bored!

And it really was a great idea.

They'll never give you credit for it, though. Just warnin' ya.

that's ok, they can say it was Ron's idea, then they are even

[Bossanova]

I am not being cunty at gvac.
Maybe you should read the entire post.

I also can say that in general it is never more than a hand full of people that will post or start threads about guests they disliked.
It hardly represents the entire R&F community or the typical listener.
Any grownup getting upset over what some unknown most likely old, fatty & sweaty listener angrily types on a message board would not have enough brains to understand the show and it's humor to begin with...

I agree with this point, yet the listeners don't get what Ron has exressed. HE DOESNT LIKE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SHIT ON THE GUESTS! Yet people still do it. Why do you think he has an entirely new website for his interview show? He is embarassed to send pub guys here so they can read negative feedback. Ron, remember the one who all of you sheep follow, said this. Why not support that mans wishes

[Tenbatsuzen]

and I like your final solution.

FTFY.

Gvac, how hot should the oven be?

[Gvac]

You can do that by posing the question as to whether we need to act differently as opposed to casting aspersions on people right off the bat.

Not my style!

I state a strong, but somewhat controversial, opinion...and the responses fly in.

If I was all mamby pamby about it, no one would pay attention.

Drama sells, my friend.

Come on, Eli...I've been doing this shit for 8 years.

[RhinoinMN]

Because it's a Wednesday night and we're bored!

And it really was a great idea.

They'll never give you credit for it, though. Just warnin' ya.

If Tenbats' idea became reality the p12np team would be dismantled. That should be the icing on the cake for the mods to make it happen.

[MisterSmith]

I agree with this point, yet the listeners don't get what Ron has exressed. HE DOESNT LIKE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SHIT ON THE GUESTS! Yet people still do it. Why do you think he has an entirely new website for his interview show? He is embarassed to send pub guys here so they can read negative feedback. Ron, remember the one who all of you sheep follow, said this. Why not support that mans wishes

How about GET FEWER SHITY GUESTS?

[~Katja~]

FTFY.

Gvac, how hot should the oven be?

I'll take the day off to collect all the gold teeth...
it's the best solution and will get me far in today's market!

[EliSnow]

I don't think I like this side of Eli

I usually don't show it on the board because my goal here is to be in a friendly community and not try to upset that vibe.

[RhinoinMN]

Not my style!

I state a strong, but somewhat controversial, opinion...and the responses fly in.

If I was all mamby pamby about it, no one would pay attention.

Drama sells, my friend.

Come on, Eli...I've been doing this shit for 8 years.

I believe it is namby pamby.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'll take the day off to collect all the gold teeth...
it's the best solution and will get me far in today's market!

Drjoek can be Mengele. You can be Eva. Gvac can be Amon Goeth.

[Bossanova]

How about GET FEWER SHITY GUESTS?

You are retarted aren't you? You will get fewer shitty guests if the BETTER ONES aren't turned off by the names sakes negative board. I'm not a fan of all of the guests, but i go jack off instead of crying about it in a listening thread. Less negative feedback, more gooder guests. Welcome to the entertainment world son. People only like positivity in that world

[~Katja~]

I agree with this point, yet the listeners don't get what Ron has exressed. HE DOESNT LIKE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SHIT ON THE GUESTS! Yet people still do it. Why do you think he has an entirely new website for his interview show? He is embarassed to send pub guys here so they can read negative feedback. Ron, remember the one who all of you sheep follow, said this. Why not support that mans wishes

that's what I said in my first post, you don't make the guest do the work. You provide him plenty of info and follow up with some positive listener feed back (be it a collection of e-mails message board quotes or VM's... ) don't make the guest wonder and search...

[EliSnow]

Not my style!

I state a strong, but somewhat controversial, opinion...and the responses fly in.

If I was all mamby pamby about it, no one would pay attention.

Drama sells, my friend.

Come on, Eli...I've been doing this shit for 8 years.

Being respectful is not being namby pamby. The question itself was tough enough to draw debate without you needing to be an ass.

[~Katja~]

Drjoek can be Mengele. You can be Eva. Gvac can be Amon Goeth.

shit, first action: drjoek will fix my friggn teeth! fill them will gold... yeah baby!

[Tenbatsuzen]

You are retarted aren't you? You will get fewer shitty guests if the BETTER ONES aren't turned off by the names sakes negative board. I'm not a fan of all of the guests, but i go jack off instead of crying about it in a listening thread. Less negative feedback, more gooder guests. Welcome to the entertainment world son. People only like positivity in that world

Well, how about we have a guest with name value not get harangued by the emotionally disabled 3rd mic of a sister show?

[Tenbatsuzen]

shit, first action: drjoek will fix my friggn teeth! fill them will gold... yeah baby!

We will use you for fertility experiments. Das fuhrer demands twins and triplets for his psychoscience tests.

[Tenbatsuzen]

shit, first action:

You ARE German!

[~Katja~]

We will use you for fertility experiments. Das fuhrer demands twins and triplets for his psychoscience tests.

and it's "Der Fuehrer"
"das" means gender neutral. Now one can argue about Hitler being a man... but in general it would be a male or female, so "der" or "die" is required.

[Gvac]

Being respectful is not being namby pamby. The question itself was tough enough to draw debate without you needing to be an ass.

Obviously not. The thread was started months ago and went nowhere. The typical response was "fuck you...we like it."

My point of contention all along was that people care more about the personal satisfaction they derive from this message board more than the show itself.

The point is moot, however. We've come up with a solution!

:smile::clap:

[mikeyboy]

Because it's a Wednesday night and we're bored!

And it really was a great idea.

They'll never give you credit for it, though. Just warnin' ya.

To be honest, that was one of the possible solutions that was on the table back when we discussed this, so yeah. No credit for Matty. I guess the only knock on that is that neither Ron nor Fez logs on when they read the board or if they do, it likely isn't under obvious names). I like them having the ability to read the board without being monitored. If it solves the problem, I guess they would have to register and sign in if they wanted to check out the listening thread. Then, of course, people might see they are online and hammer them with PMs and stuff. (Of course we could just give them invisibility power. :devil2:)

If Tenbats' idea became reality the p12np team would be dismantled. That should be the icing on the cake for the mods to make it happen.

I'll say right now that even if we implemented this rule it would not change the rules governing the posting of NSFW pictures. People will still be logged on and posting from work.

[MisterSmith]

You are retarted aren't you? You will get fewer shitty guests if the BETTER ONES aren't turned off by the names sakes negative board. I'm not a fan of all of the guests, but i go jack off instead of crying about it in a listening thread. Less negative feedback, more gooder guests. Welcome to the entertainment world son. People only like positivity in that world

First off - don't call me names or personally attack me. It is completely unwarranted.

Plus, I don't normally post if I don't like a guest. Although I don't choose to jerk off, I will find something else to do or listen to.

However, continually having guests that the fans don't like is not going to garner support, and the board is just being used as an excuse by bookers and publicists. The only way to fix the issue is for Ron & Fez to take the big step - get someone competent and passionate to book guests that won't take the BS.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The point is moot, however. We've come up with a solution!

:smile::clap:

So can we continue with the Nazi and Katja breeding jokes?

[Knowledged_one]

Well, how about we have a guest with name value not get harangued by the emotionally disabled 3rd mic of a sister show?

they,

and you are right

[west milly Tom]

To be honest, that was one of the possible solutions that was on the table back when we discussed this, so yeah. No credit for Matty. I guess the only knock on that is that neither Ron nor Fez logs on when they read the board or if they do, it likely isn't under obvious names). I like them having the ability to read the board without being monitored. If it solves the problem, I guess they would have to register and sign in if they wanted to check out the listening thread. Then, of course, people might see they are online and hammer them with PMs and stuff. (Of course we could just give them invisibility power. :devil2:)



I'll say right now that even if we implemented this rule it would not change the rules governing the posting of NSFW pictures. People will still be logged on and posting from work.



Could you force them to link it so we blackberry users could enjoy the nakedness too?

[~Katja~]

To be honest, that was one of the possible solutions that was on the table back when we discussed this, so yeah. No credit for Matty. I guess the only knock on that is that neither Ron nor Fez logs on when they read the board or if they do, it likely isn't under obvious names). I like them having the ability to read the board without being monitored. If it solves the problem, I guess they would have to register and sign in if they wanted to check out the listening thread. Then, of course, people might see they are online and hammer them with PMs and stuff. (Of course we could just give them invisibility power. :devil2:)



I'll say right now that even if we implemented this rule it would not change the rules governing the posting of NSFW pictures. People will still be logged on and posting from work.

they probably should not read the listening thread anyway, it only represents the silly mood people were in at the time (and we are all miserable bastards at work...) and does not really give real feedback to the show.
And yes, you should give them invisibility powers if they don't already have them.

[Tenbatsuzen]

To be honest, that was one of the possible solutions that was on the table back when we discussed this, so yeah. No credit for Matty. I guess the only knock on that is that neither Ron nor Fez logs on when they read the board or if they do, it likely isn't under obvious names). I like them having the ability to read the board without being monitored. If it solves the problem, I guess they would have to register and sign in if they wanted to check out the listening thread. Then, of course, people might see they are online and hammer them with PMs and stuff. (Of course we could just give them invisibility power. :devil2:)




I don't ask for credit, I want this board to run smoothly with less drama.

Why not just make double secret fake IDs for ROn and Fez and give it to them if they want to see the board? Only you and/or Jon would know about it.

[Gvac]

So can we continue with the Nazi and Katja breeding jokes?

PLEASE!

[RhinoinMN]

To be honest, that was one of the possible solutions that was on the table back when we discussed this, so yeah. No credit for Matty. I guess the only knock on that is that neither Ron nor Fez logs on when they read the board or if they do, it likely isn't under obvious names). I like them having the ability to read the board without being monitored. If it solves the problem, I guess they would have to register and sign in if they wanted to check out the listening thread. Then, of course, people might see they are online and hammer them with PMs and stuff. (Of course we could just give them invisibility power. :devil2:)



I'll say right now that even if we implemented this rule it would not change the rules governing the posting of NSFW pictures. People will still be logged on and posting from work.

I was just dreaming I guess.

[drjoek]

Drjoek can be Mengele. You can be Eva. Gvac can be Amon Goeth.



My resume continues to grow thanks to ronfez.net.

[mikeyboy]

Obviously not. The thread was started months ago and went nowhere. The typical response was "fuck you...we like it."



You're ignoring the fact that your reasons for axing the listening thread months ago are completely different from your reasons for axing it now. Most people really didn't agree with your reasons then, and your reasons now are ones that have been seriously discussed before you brought them up.

My point of contention all along was that people care more about the personal satisfaction they derive from this message board more than the show itself.

Is this directed at me? If so, I shall type out a scathing post filled with personal attacks and profanity, erase it, and then post "No."

[mikeyboy]

Well, how about we have a guest with name value not get harangued by the emotionally disabled 3rd mic of a sister show?

Let it go. Ron insinuated the day before the interview that they were going to bring Norton in on the interview.

[Gvac]

Is this directed at me? If so, I shall type out a scathing post filled with personal attacks and profanity, erase it, and then post "No."

It wasn't directed at you at all.

And I don't get the rest of the post, to be honest.

[mikeyboy]

It wasn't directed at you at all.

And I don't get the rest of the post, to be honest.

Kind of a joke, really. That's just what I, and I'm sure others, do when they are annoyed with people on the board. Type a nasty response, cool down, read it over, edit to make less inflammatory, post. That might be my response if i was accused of something I don't believe to be true.

[Tenbatsuzen]

My resume continues to grow thanks to ronfez.net.

That unshaven Juden lawyer has a big mouth. I say we put him on the first train to Dachau.

[drjoek]

fuck you... we like it

[Hottub]

The LT's are a great place to interact with other fans while the show is on. As Katja said, it's a great way to break up a crappy work day and hang with friends.

The hardcore LTers do not crap on guests. There have been a few backhanded "time for a smoke" remarks, but we do not bash. In fact, when the Watchmen photographer was on last week (yes, I know) we started recommending good comic reads to each other (while Ron was, well...)

I pay good money to be entertained. And entertained I shall be.

[Gvac]

fuck you... we like it

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Prick!

[IMSlacker]

Why wouldn't a publicist just create an account and read the listening thread? What am I missing?

[Gvac]

Why wouldn't a publicist just create an account and read the listening thread? What am I missing?

They wouldn't even know a Listening Thread existed. The forum would be completely invisible to non members, just like The Staff Room is to non-mods.

[mikeyboy]

Why wouldn't a publicist just create an account and read the listening thread? What am I missing?

They most likely wouldn't go through the trouble. Also, if we implemented this, I don't think the listening thread forum would appear at all if you weren't logged in, so most publicists wouldn't know there was an advantage to registering.

[Gvac]

Beat you to the punch again, mikey!

[mikeyboy]

They wouldn't even know a Listening Thread existed. The forum would be completely invisible to non members, just like The Staff Room is to non-mods.

Uh... There...is...no staff room. :innocent:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Uh... There...is...no staff room. :innocent:

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/cosmicmusings/matrix2.JPG

Whoa.

[DiabloSammich]

Kind of a joke, really. That's just what I, and I'm sure others, do when they are annoyed with people on the board. Type a nasty response, cool down, read it over, edit to make less inflammatory, post. That might be my response if i was accused of something I don't believe to be true.




edit: No.

[Gvac]

Uh... There...is...no staff room. :innocent:

Ha! From what I understand, there's 2 now...one for the Full Mods and one for the junior mods.

[mikeyboy]

Crazy talk.

[Hottub]

A secret listening thread? This is a joke, right?
If there is any sort of heat on the show, .net is the first place people come. Lots of guests enter the board during these times. The listening thread is like a play by play, as well as speculation and conversation. Let's just hide that from potential new members. We don't need anymore new people.:wallbash:

An absolutely asinine idea. Who's the genious who came up with that one?

[Gvac]

We had some very serious discussions in the staff room

Uh... There...is...no staff room. :innocent:

Crazy talk.


Mentally unstable?

[Gvac]

A secret listening thread? This is a joke, right?
If there is any sort of heat on the show, .net is the first place people come. Lots of guests enter the board during these times. The listening thread is like a play by play, as well as speculation and conversation. Let's just hide that from potential new members. We don't need anymore new people.:wallbash:

An absolutely asinine idea. Who's the genious who came up with that one?

No, it's a great idea. Of course this is where people come when there's heat; but I doubt they head to the Listening Thread. When Earl's pics of Lillly were posted, for example, hundreds of people came here. Not to the Listening thread, though.

And I don't think the listening thread is what sways a potential member to join or not.

[Hottub]

So you know which threads the guests are checking out? Cool. Can you share that trick with me?

You know damn well when something big is happening while the show is on, the LT is where people come to try to find the inside scoop. Don't kid yourself.

And yes. Asinine idea!

[Gvac]

So you know which threads the guests are checking out? Cool. Can you share that trick with me?

You know damn well when something big is happening while the show is on, the LT is where people come to try to find the inside scoop. Don't kid yourself.

And yes. Asinine idea!

First you ask me how to know which threads the guests are checking out, then you say you know damn well it's the listening thread?

Which one is it, tubby? Do you or don't you know which thread it is?

And when the Lilly pics and Earl pics were posted here, they weren't posted in the listening thread. That was my point.

[IMSlacker]

No, it's a great idea. Of course this is where people come when there's heat; but I doubt they head to the Listening Thread. When Earl's pics of Lillly were posted, for example, hundreds of people came here. Not to the Listening thread, though.

And I don't think the listening thread is what sways a potential member to join or not.

When I was still a lurker, I usually read the listening threads more than anything else here. Hottub has a point.

[mikeyboy]

No, it's a great idea. Of course this is where people come when there's heat; but I doubt they head to the Listening Thread. When Earl's pics of Lillly were posted, for example, hundreds of people came here. Not to the Listening thread, though.

And I don't think the listening thread is what sways a potential member to join or not.

Yes and no. When we get a surge of traffic, it's usually because something is being promoted on the show or there is something going on taht people are looking for information on (like when Fez's heart attack was announced). If you look at the list of forums, it shows how many people are in each forum, and any time we've had high traffic spikes, many of the people who come over head to the listening thread.

I can't say that listening threads do or do not sway a potential member to join, but we have seen plenty of people who lurk for months and then register when they have something to say (usually about Dave). There are a lot of people, who when they have that thing to say, post it in the listening thread, because they can't start a new thread and there isn't really any other place for their comment.

[Hottub]

OK, that was one time. Check out any of the other abnormally high traffic days and point to a thread?

[mikeyboy]

Everything Ron & Fez (46 Viewing)

I guess all of the action is discussing listening threads tonight.

[Gvac]

Well then, if a members-only listening thread is a bad idea, and a censored listening thread is a bad idea, what's your solution Tubby?

Say "fuck Ron and Fez...WE like it" and keep it the way it is?

[~Katja~]

Yes and no. When we get a surge of traffic, it's usually because something is being promoted on the show or there is something going on taht people are looking for information on (like when Fez's heart attack was announced). If you look at the list of forums, it shows how many people are in each forum, and any time we've had high traffic spikes, many of the people who come over head to the listening thread.

I can't say that listening threads do or do not sway a potential member to join, but we have seen plenty of people who lurk for months and then register when they have something to say (usually about Dave). There are a lot of people, who when they have that thing to say, post it in the listening thread, because they can't start a new thread and there isn't really any other place for their comment.

just curious, how many posts to start your own thread?
Cause I though I have seen plenty with less than 5 posts.

[mikeyboy]

just curious, how many posts to start your own thread?
Cause I though I have seen plenty with less than 5 posts.

In order to start a thread, you need 10 posts or to have been registered for 30 days. If you see a thread started by someone with less than 10 posts, it most likely means they've been registered more than a month. The reason for this measure is to curb spam threads.

[OGC]

You are retarted aren't you? You will get fewer shitty guests if the BETTER ONES aren't turned off by the names sakes negative board. I'm not a fan of all of the guests, but i go jack off instead of crying about it in a listening thread. Less negative feedback, more gooder guests. Welcome to the entertainment world son. People only like positivity in that world

They are worried about what the message boards are saying about the guests but they have no problem with the other show on 202 which routinely rapes guests ?

Let's see which makes more sense...

A booker approaches a potential guest to be on the Ron & Fez show, the potential guest (or handler or whoever) decides to check out a website to see what kind of feedback to expect. Once in a while , someone in a listening thread said something bad about a guest so they decide to take a pass on the Ron & Fez show.

OR

A booker approaches a potential guest to be on the Ron & Fez show, the potential guest (or handler or whoever) realizes that the Ron & Fez show shares a channel with Opie & Anthony (featuring Lil Jimmy). For some reason THAT SHOW has left a negative impression on the guest due to a past interview of someone else so they decide to take a pass on the Ron & Fez show.

This message board isn't the main reason they can't book better guests. And stunts like the Al Roker interview won't help either.

[Gvac]

They are worried about what the message boards are saying about the guests but they have no problem with the other show on 202 which routinely rapes guests ?

Let's see which makes more sense...

A booker approaches a potential guest to be on the Ron & Fez show, the potential guest (or handler or whoever) decides to check out a website to see what kind of feedback to expect. Once in a while , someone in a listening thread said something bad about a guest so they decide to take a pass on the Ron & Fez show.

OR

A booker approaches a potential guest to be on the Ron & Fez show, the potential guest (or handler or whoever) realizes that the Ron & Fez show shares a channel with Opie & Anthony (featuring Lil Jimmy). For some reason THAT SHOW has left a negative impression on the guest due to a past interview of someone else so they decide to take a pass on the Ron & Fez show.

This message board isn't the main reason they can't book better guests. And stunts like the Al Roker interview won't help either.

Your font hurts my eyes.

[Hottub]

Well then, if a members-only listening thread is a bad idea, and a censored listening thread is a bad idea, what's your solution Tubby?

Say "fuck Ron and Fez...WE like it" and keep it the way it is?

Of course we will listen to what Ron and Fez suggest. That is the reason we are here. I am saying members only seems as though we are hiding something. The free back and forth discussion of the show in real time. Censoring? Always a bad idea, maaan! The ability to throw out an opinion without being a douchebag is all I ask. Be tactful. Have a real opinion, not just bashing.
It really isn't that hard.

[MisterSmith]

But making the listening threads "private" would only mean a minor change in how things have been done previously. If something big comes up, a member or mod jumps into a public section and posts a thread. Essentially a sub-discussion for the sake of public knowledge.

Otherwise, all a "lurker" would have to do is get an account and not post. There are tons of people on the board who are signed in or have accounts but rarely post. If they are truly interested in joining the real-time discussion all they have to do is have an account.

IMO it makes sense to have a "private" section that could include things like the Listening Threads, That's Life, and maybe Ask Dr. Steve (along with other possibilities).

[mikeyboy]

You are retarted aren't you? You will get fewer shitty guests if the BETTER ONES aren't turned off by the names sakes negative board. I'm not a fan of all of the guests, but i go jack off instead of crying about it in a listening thread.

You jack off to bad guests? Different strokes...

[Hottub]

In other words, act something like an adult. Don't say something here that you wouldn't say to someone's face. (Guest, member, whatever)
It works pretty well on the board, and in real life.

[~Katja~]

In order to start a thread, you need 10 posts or to have been registered for 30 days. If you see a thread started by someone with less than 10 posts, it most likely means they've been registered more than a month. The reason for this measure is to curb spam threads.

ok, was just wondering. makes sense, it hasn't stopped spammers to just post in randoms treads though...

[MisterSmith]

You jack off to bad guests? Different strokes...

Oh good - you are more concerned about his jacking habits than the personal attack. Great.

:down:

[jauble]

My head hurts after getting caught up on this.

[Gvac]

Of course we will listen to what Ron and Fez suggest. That is the reason we are here. I am saying members only seems as though we are hiding something.


Like the Staff Room?

What are you hiding in there?

People who have never been mods don't even know it exists, but if you are a mod, it shows up just like every other forum when you log in.

That would be the same as The Listening Thread. People wouldn't think we are "hiding" something if they couldn't see it at all.

Also, if it was viewable only to members, it might actually increase membership here. Think about it; if someone lurks and follows it every day but never joined and then it suddenly disappeared on them, they might be inclined to sign up.

[OGC]

Your font hurts my eyes.


Really ? I've heard that the elderly appreciate a larger font.

[mikeyboy]

Oh good - you are more concerned about his jacking habits than the personal attack. Great.

:down:

Sorry. That was wrong. Gvac's voodoo distracted me.

[Gvac]

Really ? I've heard that the elderly appreciate a larger font.

Quiet, grandpa!

[jauble]

Like the Staff Room?

What are you hiding in there?

People who have never been mods don't even know it exists, but if you are a mod, it shows up just like every other forum when you log in.

That would be the same as The Listening Thread. People wouldn't think we are "hiding" something if they couldn't see it at all.

Also, if it was viewable only to members, it might actually increase membership here. Think about it; if someone lurks and follows it every day but never joined and then it suddenly disappeared on them, they might be inclined to sign up.

You know every time you say staff room we have to go around and do this, right?

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Men_in_Black/men_in_black_movie_image_tommy_lee_jones_and_will_ smith.jpg

[Knowledged_one]

Save the listening threads....


save the world

[Gvac]

Sorry. That was wrong. Gvac's voodoo distracted me.

Never doubt me!

And I'm incredibly hurt that Eli called me an ass.

I demand restitution!

P.S. - I love Bossanova AND MisterSmith. I hope you boys can kiss and make up.

[MisterSmith]

Never doubt me!

And I'm incredibly hurt that Eli called me an ass.

I demand restitution!

P.S. - I love Bossanova AND MisterSmith. I hope you boys can kiss and make up.

No biggy here - it's just a bit much to call me retarded. I didn't even yell back at him - just told him it wasn't nice. I was pretty dang civil, actually.

[led37zep]

I agree with this point, yet the listeners don't get what Ron has exressed. HE DOESNT LIKE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SHIT ON THE GUESTS! Yet people still do it. Why do you think he has an entirely new website for his interview show? He is embarassed to send pub guys here so they can read negative feedback. Ron, remember the one who all of you sheep follow, said this. Why not support that mans wishes

This isn't Rons site, its a fan site. As great as he is on the radio or how amazing he is on Unmasked he doesn't and shouldn't control the content on this site. If he's embarrassed as you say then so be it...then XM/Sirius can put up an official site.

Side note: I see nothing wrong with the listening threads and will often pop in there while I'm at work to see whats going on with the show and the folks who frequent that thread. I like that its not ONLY about the show. I view it as a bunch of friends watching a game who get side tracked from time to time. The game is why you are there...but hey...look...you can see that girls rack...lets talk about that for a bit.

[mikeyboy]

No biggy here - it's just a bit much to call me retarded. I didn't even yell back at him - just told him it wasn't nice. I was pretty dang civil, actually.

You wear that medal around all the time. We just assumed.

[Tall_James]

Simple solution.

Just put the Listening Thread in the Wrestling Forum. That way no one will read it.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Never doubt me!

And I'm incredibly hurt that Eli called me an ass.

I demand restitution!

P.S. - I love Bossanova AND MisterSmith. I hope you boys can kiss and make up.

I think you should tell Eli he is an ass right back. Ba-boom. Retribution, equilibrium of karma. Peace restored, babies smile.

[jauble]

Simple solution.

Just put the Listening Thread in the Wrestling Forum. That way no one will read it.

Poor Fallon, first Blink182 and now this.

[Friday]

i'm not reading 8 pages of garbage.
i just wanted to say that i like the listening threads.
that's all.

[mikeyboy]

I think you should tell Eli he is an ass right back. Ba-boom. Retribution, equilibrium of karma. Peace restored, babies smile.

I have a better idea...

DANCE-OFF!!!!!!!!

[Gvac]

This isn't Rons site, its a fan site. As great as he is on the radio or how amazing he is on Unmasked he doesn't and shouldn't control the content on this site. If he's embarrassed as you say then so be it...then XM/Sirius can put up an official site.

Like I said, buddy...this site bears the name of the hosts. They're kind enough to allow that. You don't think we (as fans) should be kind enough to respect their wishes?

And Ron has created an alternate site. It's just a shame he had to.

[Gvac]

i'm not reading 8 pages of garbage.
i just wanted to say that i like the listening threads.
that's all.

It's not garbage; in fact a very reasonable solution was reached.

[MisterSmith]

You wear that medal around all the time. We just assumed.

Let me win, but if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt. :king:

[Gvac]

Simple solution.

Just put the Listening Thread in the Wrestling Forum. That way no one will read it.

Poor Fallon, first Blink182and now this.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[Gvac]

I have a better idea...

DANCE-OFF!!!!!!!!

Pants Off Dance Off?????

[jauble]

Pants Off Dance Off?????

Like there is any other kind.

[mikeyboy]

Pants Off Dance Off?????

There's another kind?

[Friday]

It's not garbage; in fact a very reasonable solution was reached.

here?
doubtful.

listening thread... no listening thread.
life will go on.

[drjoek]

I blame the bad callers

[Bossanova]

Allow me to apologize to Mister Smith. I meant no ill will. See Bossanova has a Johnie Walker addiction and has the tendency to say what he wants. i am sorry for saying you were a reterd.

[Gvac]

here?
doubtful.

listening thread... no listening thread.
life will go on.

OK, fine.

"I didn't read it, but I know what's going on."

Silly response when you think about it.

[Gvac]

Allow me to apologize to Mister Smith. I meant no ill will. See Bossanova has a Johnie Walker addiction and has the tendency to say what he wants. i am sorry for saying you were a reterd.

I love you.

Thank you so much for being there for me honey...and for being man enough to apologize.

Now about that Johnnie Walker addiction...

[MisterSmith]

Allow me to apologize to Mister Smith. I meant no ill will. See Bossanova has a Johnie Walker addiction and has the tendency to say what he wants. i am sorry for saying you were a reterd.

Apology accepted.


















You fucking drunk.

:happy:

[Gvac]

Awwww...I'm so happy you guys made up!

See, Eli? An apology isn't so hard!

[mikeyboy]

I blame the bad callers

I blame lleeder.

[Friday]

OK, fine.

"I didn't read it, but I know what's going on."

Silly response when you think about it.

dude.
i just lost my cat.
back off.

allow me to spew my simple opinion and let it go.

i don't know or care what is going on. i just like listening threads and thought i would say so.
if you big whigs come up with something different i am sure i will adjust.

long live whatever.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Hear's the deal, Vos.

Ron and Fez are the fathers of Ronfez.net. Without their genius, their art, and their comedic copulation, conception of this community would never happen. Alliteration, I know I know...

So in this way of thinking, Ronfez.net is Ron's child. Face it folks, we're all a better man's bratty runty kids.

Yet what kind of father would Ron be if he tried to control his child after it's grown past a certain point? You can't cage your kid or you're a bad parent. You can't tell your kid what it likes and doesn't like. You can tell it what you want it to say at the dinner table, but you can't tell it what to say all the time. It thinks for itself.

So really, this movement is pretty futile and in conflict with nature itself. Even if I'm inclined to agree that if you have nothing positive to add for the show that you are better off keeping it to yourself, you cannot speak for everyone else. The negativity exists, like spoiled children exist, regardless of parentage.

[jauble]

Apology accepted.


















You fucking drunk.

:happy:

Good for you, now put your helmet back on.

[Knowledged_one]

I finally get it Gvac talked about listening threads killing show discussion. He then used this thread and a comment made by ron on the show about listening threads to spawn this discussion about a topic from the show.
Mentally unstable? I think not

[OGC]

I blame the bad callers

I blame lleeder.

sort of redundant isn't it ?

[sailor]

if there were no listening threads, bad guests would get dedicated threads for their bashing.

[Gvac]

UPDATE: We may have found a solution! Please don't post any angry responses without reading the entire thread! THANKS!!!!

[Gvac]

I finally get it Gvac talked about listening threads killing show discussion. He then used this thread and a comment made by ron on the show about listening threads to spawn this discussion about a topic from the show.
Mentally unstable? I think not

I'm glad SOMEONE gets me!

























Wait...what?

[MisterSmith]

Good for you, now put your helmet back on.

I can't. I'm wearing my specially coat with the hugging sleeves.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Hear's the deal, Vos.

Ron and Fez are the fathers of Ronfez.net. Without their genius, their art, and their comedic copulation, conception of this community would never happen. Alliteration, I know I know...

So in this way of thinking, Ronfez.net is Ron's child. Face it folks, we're all a better man's bratty runty kids.

Yet what kind of father would Ron be if he tried to control his child after it's grown past a certain point? You can't cage your kid or you're a bad parent. You can't tell your kid what it likes and doesn't like. You can tell it what you want it to say at the dinner table, but you can't tell it what to say all the time. It thinks for itself.

So really, this movement is pretty futile and in conflict with nature itself. Even if I'm inclined to agree that if you have nothing positive to add for the show that you are better off keeping it to yourself, you cannot speak for everyone else. The negativity exists, like spoiled children exist, regardless of parentage.
Just a question so if RF.net is the defacto child of Ron and Fez and part of the brand, why don't they post here? Just a few lines get read on board gossip as far as I can tell. Am I out of line for being so blunt to challenge this idea? It just seems there is only a slight connection to the site and the show.

[~Katja~]

this thread is responsible for the new traffic rank.. I think

Site Stats for ronfez.net:

* Ronfez.net has a traffic rank of: 181,229 (up25,161)
* Speed: Very Slow (91% of sites are faster), Avg Load Time: 6.7 Seconds What's This?
* Other sites that link to this site: 87
* Ronfez.net was first registered on: 19-Jan-2001. See how it looked in the past.




how about we concentrate on the highlighted part

[RhinoinMN]

No, it's a great idea. Of course this is where people come when there's heat; but I doubt they head to the Listening Thread. When Earl's pics of Lillly were posted, for example, hundreds of people came here. Not to the Listening thread, though.

And I don't think the listening thread is what sways a potential member to join or not.

When I was still a lurker, I usually read the listening threads more than anything else here. Hottub has a point.

I joined because of Ron and Fez. I paid zero attention to listening threads until about 9 months in.

I participate and it is fun. Sometimes a poster comes in with little reputation and makes shitty comments.

Make it invisible, sure. More tits, even better.

[mikeyboy]

UPDATE: We may have found a solution! Please don't post any angry responses without reading the entire thread! THANKS!!!!

Is that the one where we add more forums, more mods and shunt certain users back to thirdtierboard.com?

[Hottub]

Simple solution.

Just put the Listening Thread in the Wrestling Forum. That way no one will read it.

TJ for Mod!!!:clap:

[Friday]

if there were no listening threads, bad guests would get dedicated threads for their bashing.

that might be fun too.

and maybe if the people who are so excited about these new ideas posted a short list of them in a new thread, or a handy little recap here, we could all enjoy them without reading so many pages.

[Gvac]

Is that the one where we add more forums, more mods and shunt certain users back to thirdtierboard.com?

Let's face it, mikeyboy; I and I alone can fix this place and get it running right.

My keen insight and vision is unparalleled, yet I have absolutely no desire to be a moderator.

I'm perfectly content being the "man behind the curtain" and letting you play Wizard of Oz.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Just a question so if RF.net is the defacto child of Ron and Fez and part of the brand, why don't they post here? Just a few lines get read on board gossip as far as I can tell. Am I out of line for being so blunt to challenge this idea? It just seems there is only a slight connection to the site and the show.

Parents never do the shit their kids are into. And if they did, whatever the kid's doing is now uncool and the kids might stop doing it. Look what happened to whackbag with ol' wifflebatlube. The only time I ever see a dad connecting with a kid is when he's not really the biological father.

Also, kids are never the same as their parents, so if the connection between parent and child seem vague, that's normal.

[RhinoinMN]

Is that the one where we add more forums, more mods and shunt certain users back to thirdtierboard.com?

nice plug.

[~Katja~]

Parents never do the shit their kids are into. And if they did, whatever the kid's doing is now uncool and the kids might stop doing it. Look what happened to whackbag with ol' wifflebatlube. The only time I ever see a dad connecting with a kid is when he's not really the biological father.

Also, kids are never the same as their parents, so if the connection between parent and child seem vague, that's normal.


just a wild guess... you have no kids

[RhinoinMN]

Let's face it, mikeyboy; I and I alone can fix this place and get it running right.

My keen insight and vision is unparalleled, yet I have absolutely no desire to be a moderator.

I'm perfectly content being the "man behind the curtain" and letting you play Wizard of Oz.

With posts like these I will never sleep tonight.

[Bossanova]

Let's face it, mikeyboy; I and I alone can fix this place and get it running right.

My keen insight and vision is unparalleled, yet I have absolutely no desire to be a moderator.

I'm perfectly content being the "man behind the curtain" and letting you play Wizard of Oz.

Lets face it, Modship is for fucko's and well we all know the the Admins are

[Gvac]

With posts like these I will never sleep tonight.

Ha!

Wait until Eli comes back and accuses me of being conceited again!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

just a wild guess... you have no kids

so your point is that kids never grow up and be independent? Sounds like a fun life.

[RhinoinMN]

Lets face it, Modship is for fucko's and well we all know the the Admins are

Bossanova for mod.

[Bossanova]

Bossanova for mod.

Im no fucko sir

[Gvac]

Lets face it, Modship is for fucko's and well we all know the the Admins are

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Straight shooter, that Bossanova!

Damn, I love honesty.

What a shame it's such a rare trait.

[mikeyboy]

I just figured out the best reason for making the listening thread forum invisible. You get a lurker who likes the listening threads, and one day they are gone, so he registers so he can post "OMG! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LISTENING THREADS???!?!?!?!?!"

Then we say "What are you talking about? They are right there."

Then he feels stupid and wonders if he is losing his mind.

[~Katja~]

so your point is that kids never grow up and be independent? Sounds like a fun life.

no, my point is that no matter now much I claim to be way different than my parents I can always find more similarities than I would like to.

[mikeyboy]

Im no fucko sir

Denial is just the first step in the process.

[RhinoinMN]

Ha!

Wait until Eli comes back and accuses me of being conceited again!

Conceited? Ludicrous. I see nothing but rational, constructive and positive restructuring proposals.

[~Katja~]

I just figured out the best reason for making the listening thread forum invisible. You get a lurker who likes the listening threads, and one day they are gone, so he registers so he can post "OMG! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LISTENING THREADS???!?!?!?!?!"

Then we say "What are you talking about? They are right there."

Then he feels stupid and wonders if he is losing his mind.

problem is that said lurker is lurking in this very tread right now

[Bossanova]

Denial is just the first step in the process.

You really want me to make another board character?

[RhinoinMN]

Im no fucko sir

Sorry. I confused it with fuckee.

[mikeyboy]

You really want me to make another board character?

uncle

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Parents never do the shit their kids are into. And if they did, whatever the kid's doing is now uncool and the kids might stop doing it. Look what happened to whackbag with ol' wifflebatlube. The only time I ever see a dad connecting with a kid is when he's not really the biological father.

Also, kids are never the same as their parents, so if the connection between parent and child seem vague, that's normal.
At least we still have Ron's blog :thumbup:

[Gvac]

Conceited? Ludicrous. I see nothing but rational, constructive and positive restructuring proposals.

I wish I could marry you and Bossanova in a utopian, gay Utah.

[Bossanova]

I wish I could marry you and Bossanova in a utopian, gay Utah.

I just got hard

[Gvac]

I just got hard

What took you so long?

[Bossanova]

What took you so long?

Whiskey dick mostly, that and the overwhelming amount of arogant mod posts

[Bossanova]

So wait. Do most of us actually think Matty had a good idea? I think I just shit myself

[Gvac]

Whiskey dick mostly, that and the overwhelming amount of arogant mod posts

There's that honesty again!


:wub: