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sr71blackbird
01-18-2009, 06:18 AM
I put this thread here on purpose because even though it is food related, it is asking cerebral question in general.
I had this disucssion with my friend who became very agitated with me over the topic because 1. She is a vegitarian and 2. She has no patience for flow of conscious discussion.
Anyway, here is the discussion: In light vs dark meat, say chicken and turkey, the light meat is in the chest, and the dark meat is in the leg area. Since these birds do not fly, they get around by their leg muscles. I imagine the dark meat is dark because it is the more used muscles. Is this right? I also heard two schools of thought in regards to light vs dark meat. I heard dark meat is less fatty than light meat. I know I grew up always wanting the white meat. The second school of thought is that we in America have learned to eat the lesser quality meats (mainly muscle) and we dislike stuff like liver and kidneys and internal organs because we think they are "gross", I know I grew up that way.
Is the area of the animal where the meat comes from that is associated with locomotion better or worse for you than areas not used for locomotion? In regards to other animal we eat, like in cows, we say that filet mignon is better quality that chuck steak for example. In my other thread I ask about the light part of tuna over the white part.
Is the darker meat generally better for us than the lighter? If I am trying to cut back on my fat intake, would I be better off shying away from light meat?

KatPw
01-18-2009, 06:54 AM
From Wiki:

Within poultry, there are two types of meats—white and dark. The different colors are based on the different locations and uses of the muscles. Dark meats occur in the legs, which are used to support the weight of the animals while they move. These muscles are designed to develop endurance for long-term use and contain a large amount of myoglobin, allowing the muscle to use oxygen more efficiently for aerobic respiration. In contrast the white meat, generally found within the breasts of the birds, are used for quick bursts of power which requires little of the meat-darkening myoglobin. Note that this holds for ground-based bird like chickens and turkeys – birds which use their chest muscles for sustained flight (such as geese and ducks) have dark meat throughout their bodies.

and from a diet website:

Dark meats tend to contain more zinc, riboflavin, niacin, thiamin, vitamins B6 and B12, amino acids, iron than white meat. Dark beef meat contains about 11 times more zinc than tuna, and about 3 times as much iron than raw spinach. Chicken dark meat contain vitamins A, K, B6, B12, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, minerals as selenium, phosphorus and zinc.
Even the fats in most of the dark meats have healthy parts. They contain Omega-3, and Omega-6 fatty acids, and other ‘healthy’ fats.
It is the saturated fat content which lowers the true quality of dark meat.

http://www.diet-blog.com/archives/2007/10/08/dark_meat_vs_white_meat_whats_the_difference.php

So it seems that dark meat contains more vitamins and minerals. I hated dark meat growing up, but I'm slowly coming around to it.

MC Pee Pants
01-18-2009, 07:01 AM
Turkeys can fly

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 07:21 AM
ostrich burgers are phenomenal

boosterp
01-18-2009, 10:31 AM
I am such a hick.

I raised chickens, turkey, etc. while growing up. In the wild, even their breast and wing meat is darker matching the rest of their muscle structure. There is also less fat because of activity and the meat tastes a lot better.

The reason why the breast is white is 1. hormones, 2. lack of activity in penned up locations. The hormones make the breast larger while keeping the fat of this area to a minimum because due to the inactivity it would get fatty faster. Since they use their legs to move around, get to food, etc, the meat remains brown.

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 10:32 AM
DARK MEAT FOR LIFE


Seriously, chicken breast is so dry and gross. LEGS AND THIGHS BITCH

lleeder
01-18-2009, 10:36 AM
DARK MEAT FOR LIFE

You're preaching to the choir

Farmer Dave
01-18-2009, 10:42 AM
Turkeys can fly

Only the wild ones, not the domesticated white ones.

Give me the dark meat, more moist.

As for beef, less work by the muscle=more tender and usually more intramuscular fat or marbling which usually also means more flavor as well.

jauble
01-18-2009, 10:52 AM
Fuck whitey. Dark meat is the best...snoogans tips coming up?

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 10:53 AM
Fuck whitey. Dark meat is the best...snoogans tips coming up?

I would try but I don't think youtube has the bandwidth for me to properly educate the fools on this board as to the correct eating habits

epo
01-18-2009, 11:19 AM
Dark meat wins.

razorboy
01-18-2009, 11:23 AM
Dark meat.

SinA
01-18-2009, 11:35 AM
how about the band Dark Meat (http://www.myspace.com/darkmeats) from Athens GA?

back on the topic, it sounds like dark meat has more vits and mins, especially zinc, which would kinda prove that chicken soup really is good for you when you have a cold.

drusilla
01-18-2009, 04:02 PM
dark meat is slimey & gross. i'm all about the white meat.

Heather 8
01-18-2009, 04:11 PM
I prefer dark meat, particularly drumsticks. White meat is bland and dry.

sailor
01-18-2009, 04:29 PM
I prefer dark meat, particularly drumsticks. White meat is bland and dry.

craziness. dark meat is just icky. that's a technical term.

spot
01-18-2009, 04:43 PM
Dark meat is where it's at.