Ron & Fez SiriusXM Listening Thread for 3/4/09

[drjoek]

First sign of spring for me
I have my first umpire meeting of the year tonight. That means the season should be here soon. I got patch certified last year and did a ton of games mostly little league and Babe Ruth. This year I intend to try to do some scholastic games, probably JV, freshman games. Gotta pay for 2 in college next year.

[disneyspy]

I dated one that was borderline. Ex wife #1 had to be a retard.

tell us somethin we dont know

[disneyspy]

First sign of spring for me
I have my first umpire meeting of the year tonight. That means the season should be here soon. I got patch certified last year and did a ton of games mostly little league and Babe Ruth. This year I intend to try to do some scholastic games, probably JV, freshman games. Gotta pay for 2 in college next year.

good for you dr joe,im sure you'll keep the home plate area very slippery

[disneyspy]

i dont know if this one chick was retarded,but she was real proud of her special olympic medals and insisted on keepin em on while we bumped nasties

[disneyspy]

how do you know when a retarded blonde chick is drunk?

[hydee]

it may make him irresponsible and immature in his decisions when drinking, I would not go as far as to say his kids don't deserve him or he is a bad father... sure the things he does when drunk indirectly effect them but you still don't know how he does otherwise as a father.

You know, not to make an excuse for him, but as a woman you change a lot when you become a mother, for a man it is often even more overwhelming and they cannot feel the same feelings the woman develops over her pregnancy and after a kid is born...
it's not a secret that most change drastically after having a kid and their life revolves around the kid all if the sudden... and a lot of times the attention switches from the father to the kid entirely and they don't always handle that in the most mature ways.

Katja, when you have kids there should be no more irresponsible and immature behavior. You no longer have the right to be that way. I am not saying having a sense of humor and being silly with your family is bad, but irresponsible and immature have to be checked at the door, for the sake of your marriage and the sake of your children.

I have been married for 15 wonderful years ( I got married at 20) so I know a lot about growing up fast and understanding my life wasn't all about me anymore. I can't have kids because of fertility issues but I know that if we did have kids neither of us would be irresponsible and immature when we had them. It's just not how adults act.

[Don Stugots]

well said.

[disneyspy]

how do you know when a retarded blonde chick is drunk?

she sounds southern

[~Katja~]

Katja, when you have kids there should be no more irresponsible and immature behavior. You no longer have the right to be that way. I am not saying having a sense of humor and being silly with your family is bad, but irresponsible and immature have to be checked at the door, for the sake of your marriage and the sake of your children.

I have been married for 15 wonderful years ( I got married at 20) so I know a lot about growing up fast and understanding my life wasn't all about me anymore. I can't have kids because of fertility issues but I know that if we did have kids neither of us would be irresponsible and immature when we had them. It's just not how adults act.

just because there is no room for immaturity does not mean that we all of the sudden become saints. We all are human and have faults... and we all make mistakes here and there, there is a difference between directly risking your child's health or life and acting immature on occasion, we don't flip a switch when we get married or have children that make us automatically know all and become excellent rolemodels... we strive for it, but we grow into these roles slowly. Don't think our parents haven't made mistakes, don't think you or your husband never made a mistake. As in marriage or any relationship where you either grow strongly together or hatefully apart... as a parent you can grow to become your best as well as fail... I don't see Dave failing... sorry... I just don't

I have a child and I fear nothing more than making mistakes in the way I raise him or to fail him in any way... but I cannot guarantee that one day in the future he will not resent any decisions I have made for him growing up.

[Don Stugots]

well said

[disneyspy]

for kipster
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[Drunky McBetidont]

all kids hate their parents from around 13 to 23 years of age. so who gives a shit? might as well give the little fuckers a reason so you don't wonder what you did wrong. :drunk:

[~Katja~]

all kids hate their parents from around 13 to 23 years of age. so who gives a shit? might as well give the little fuckers a reason so you don't wonder what you did wrong. :drunk:

haha, I wish that was true... I do know a few families that actually sailed gracefully through the teenage years... though the mother was responsible for most of the work and keeping it together in the household... the men worked, and long and late hours... but they also had quality family time... smartest kids and happy as can be

[Hottub]

Hey Buddays.

Reeshy is the patron Saint of punctuation
300 was a comic book on film
Don't want to see Watchmen until I read the book
Good luck, Lenny
Does it count if you go to Ashley Madison.com while drunk?

[Don Stugots]

Hey Buddays.

Reeshy is the patron Saint of punctuation
300 was a comic book on film
Don't want to see Watchmen until I read the book
Good luck, Lenny
Does it count if you go to Ashley Madison.com while drunk?


well said

[disneyspy]

oops,lemme try again,fighting pussies


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[disneyspy]

warning,the following picture is whay happens to you drink and cheat,may not be safe for the casual cheater


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[Don Stugots]

you drinking?

[The Nature Boy]

haha, I wish that was true... I do know a few families that actually sailed gracefully through the teenage years... though the mother was responsible for most of the work and keeping it together in the household... the men worked, and long and late hours... but they also had quality family time... smartest kids and happy as can be

Venturing into whats a work and whats a shoot is always a dicey proposition. But we can only go by the material available on the show, and we can only presume that even in an exagerrated Dave, his weekly drunk situation is probably accurate.

Now, kids needs to grow into people that can rise above the shortcomings of their parents, because as you say, every parent has them, and no matter how much you try to give your children or how much you prune your own behavior, everybody will have their something, as I suppose Juliana and Baby Mac will one day have.

But that said, the converse is, a willful ignorance to your conduct when people who've walked a mile in your shoes OR the shoes of your loved ones give you advice.

Does Dave have a drinking problem? Don't know, i guess that's always a personal question, but if you start looking at some of the critical assessments, ie do you schedule drinking time, does it dominate your thoughts and could you stop, it seems like Dave would be in a clinical danger zone on a lot of these issues. Again, I don't know the guy, but based on the cannon of the Ron and Fez show, he seems to drink to the loss of control and memory.

I don't know Dave's deal, and I don't know his family deal either. But I do know mine, and my dad was an otherwise model guy, and was an absolute prince when he was sober. A friend and a father and all you could ask, but it was a jekyl and hyde situation, and being a good dad some of the time really doesn't matter when you have to live in fear of coming home to the wrong day. My dad, he had a problem and I've made peace with that, and I'm sure many kids go through this situation just fine. But enough don't that I would think there would be pause. Parents, Dave included, make unending and untold sacrafices for their children, and their life shouldn't end because they reproduce. However, this may be one more and a major one he should think about making. If he drinks as much as currently alluded to, I think it will be an issue for his kids. We'll inflict enough baggage on each other without intention or meaning to, we shouldn't knowingly load more onto people when a behavior tweak could make your kids life a lot better.

I say this not to attack Dave, but as a guy who could sympathize with what his kids may feel if life continues as its going.

[drjoek]

Just listened to the last hour of the show. God I hope its a bit.

[Dell]

just because there is no room for immaturity does not mean that we all of the sudden become saints. We all are human and have faults... and we all make mistakes here and there, there is a difference between directly risking your child's health or life and acting immature on occasion, we don't flip a switch when we get married or have children that make us automatically know all and become excellent rolemodels... we strive for it, but we grow into these roles slowly. Don't think our parents haven't made mistakes, don't think you or your husband never made a mistake. As in marriage or any relationship where you either grow strongly together or hatefully apart... as a parent you can grow to become your best as well as fail... I don't see Dave failing... sorry... I just don't

I have a child and I fear nothing more than making mistakes in the way I raise him or to fail him in any way... but I cannot guarantee that one day in the future he will not resent any decisions I have made for him growing up.

The old expression applies... you cannot be a hero in your own house

Your kids will see all sides of you, good and bad, if you participate in their lives (and I hope most do). You lose hero status when they are way too young. You can only hope that they grow up to still like and respect you.

I love how Michael Jordan described this phenomena by saying that his son's favorite Chicago Bull was B.J. Armstrong (i think that was his name)... Not even Michael Jordan is a hero in his own house. Do your best and let others do what they feel is best.

[nate1000]

I can't have kids because of fertility issues but I know that if we did have kids neither of us would be irresponsible and immature when we had them. It's just not how adults act.

Strong opinions from one with zero, doughnut, goose egg, nada, zilch experience on the subject.