Obama on Leno

[WampusCrandle]

Obama will be the first sitting president to ever be on a late night talk show (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1162866/Obama-make-history-Leno-sitting-president-appear-chat-show.html) ... i might have to tivo it.

[SatCam]

Mr Obama has been accused of 'dumbing down the presidency' with his decision to appear on the show

Bush was able to dumb down his presidency without even having to go on Leno!

[lleeder]

Bush was able to dumb down his presidency without even having to go on Leno!

wacka wacka wacka

[TjM]

This should not be happening

[Freitag]

This should not be happening

Why not? He's going there to explain the stimulus package and how it'll benefit Americans. It's basically an infomercial. It's not like he's going to do standup.

It's business. Actors go to plug their movies, he's going to plug his deal.

[A.J.]

Did he go Jaywalking? 'Cause that bit is HIII-larious!

[albo60s]

Its very unpresidential imo. POTUS doesn't belong on a late nite talk show! Obama is lowering the prestige of his office.

[TheMojoPin]

Its very unpresidential imo. POTUS doesn't belong on a late nite talk show! Obama is lowering the prestige of his office.

That sounds rather elitist of you.

[Don Stugots]

I would rather him go on Leno then to have to answer "how you like in the NCAA tounry?" 100 times. i really dont care what team he picks for the super bowl either. just run the country and get us out the mess we are in. Go on Leno to push your deal if you feel that you need to.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Its very unpresidential imo. POTUS doesn't belong on a late nite talk show! Obama is lowering the prestige of his office.

I'm not being partisan here at all, but GW Bush already did a great job of that.

I mean, Clinton got a BJ and was doing odd insertions in the fucking oval office, and that's only what we FOUND OUT. God only knows what we don't know about.

I have no problems with brackets or going on a show and break it down to the people. Wanna know why?

Most Americans are dumb. We don't like watching the news, we don't read the wallstreet journal.

People don't fucking know what advantages this plan has FOR THEM. That's part of my job. I just finished a fucking presentation explaining what ARRA means to Joe Schmo, and I fucking schooled a tax lawyer on it who still didn't know what the fuck it mean until I showed her the goddamn language from Congress.

Obama needs to go on and say the following:

1) If you're first time homebuyer - and that means you haven't bought or lived in a home you owned for three years, not REALLY a first time home buyer - you get 8 grand. Free.

2) You're getting a tax break that's going to be figured into your pay starting 4/1.

3) Any sales tax you pay on a car becomes deductible.

There's more, but that's the start of it.

[SatCam]

So uh I heard you got elected President of the United States. How's that going for you?

[Devo37]

i hope they show the trailer for his new summer popcorn movie!

[SatCam]

i hope the show the trailer for his new summer popcorn movie!



ok barry I understand we have a clip from your new movie... can you set this up for us?

[disneyspy]

i wish he'd go on letterman and do a stupid people trick,that'd rock

[SatCam]

maybe play "will it float" with the constitution

[TooLowBrow]

i wish he'd go on letterman and do a stupid people trick,that'd rock

or if he rips off bill murray and spray paints his name onto the desk

[drjoek]

The economy is in shambles.
The war coninues in the mideast
Yet Obama has time to fill out his bracket as a media opportunity on ESPN.
Tonight he is going to be on Leno without his tie
What exactly is the point of this Bullshit?
We all appreciate this Man of the People crap but to me this is ridiculous.

What do you think?

[underdog]

I've just become used to the President not doing a fucking thing. Bush was on vacation every other week while his cronies did all the dirty work. Seems Obama might be the same.

I'm just hoping Obama's cronies aren't war mongering sociopaths.

[spoon]

I think it's stupid. Who gives a fuck!? Do you pull teeth and put in crowns 24 hours a day?

Come on man, is this a real issue or some gay ass attempt to once again blame Obama for the last 8 years? If you can't do anything fun while you work, you'd go insane.

[SatCam]

What a lazy n

[drjoek]

I think it's stupid. Who gives a fuck!? Do you pull teeth and put in crowns 24 hours a day?

Come on man, is this a real issue or some gay ass attempt to once again blame Obama for the last 8 years? If you can't do anything fun while you work, you'd go insane.



I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

What a lazy n

What did you expect?

[SatCam]

I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

I hear Leno pays good money. Obama is trying to supplement his income like everyone else these days

[underdog]

I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

More exposure.

[hedges]

I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

He should go on Colbert.

[underdog]

I think it's stupid. Who gives a fuck!? Do you pull teeth and put in crowns 24 hours a day?

Come on man, is this a real issue or some gay ass attempt to once again blame Obama for the last 8 years? If you can't do anything fun while you work, you'd go insane.

I've been listening to WMT and jerseysean. According to them, Obama caused the AIG bailout and the forced liberalism that has taken over Europe, which is worse than Nazis.

[Judge Smails]

I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

Maybe he's always wanted to meet Stuttering John.

[Marc with a c]

relax. he's new.

[spoon]

I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

Who cares? He's in CA and he get's a shot to contact a few million lives and push the idea of things are coming back to normal and he's a normal guy taking a break. I see no issue. It's better than wasting his time speaking to church groups when you actually don't even follow the religion like W.

[underdog]

Who cares? He's in CA and he get's a shot to contact a few million lives and push the idea of things are coming back to normal and he's a normal guy taking a break. I see no issue. It's better than wasting his time speaking to church groups when you actually don't even follow the religion like W.

HE NEEDS TO FIX THE MESS HE GOT US INTO! If it weren't for Obama, we wouldn't be in this endless war.

Also, what kind of asshole is he? Does he just TALK to EVERYONE?! First Iran, now Jay Leno. I've been saying it all along about California; Nuke 'em All and Take Their Oil!

[Slumbag]

I didn't say it was an issue I just feel its pretty trivial for the President of the United States to go on Leno. What is the point?

Being the president is a lot like being an actor.
He's on the show promoting himself, and his policies.
I think doing the dance is just as important as going to Congress, or lighting a Christmas tree, or any of the dumb shit the President has to do.

It sucks that that's the way it is, but it is.

[drjoek]

Maybe Leno can do one of those "Jaywalking" quizzes and see if he knows anything.

[Recyclerz]

Spoon and Slumbag speak the truth.

[Slumbag]

Maybe Leno can do one of those "Jaywalking" quizzes and see if he knows anything.

OH MAN!
Jay should have YOU on!!!

[Dude!]

why don't we see if you people
can answer dr joe k's original post
without mentioning g w bush

[SatCam]

Maybe Leno can do one of those "Jaywalking" quizzes and see if he knows anything.

Considering the questions are usually "Who is the First Lady?" I think he'd do pretty well

[Slumbag]

why don't we see if you people
can answer dr joe k's original post
without mentioning g w bush

There is one post out of all of these with the word Bush in it.
Two posts reference him.


EDIT: Now the thread is merged with the other one, and I look like an asshole.
Thanks mods.

[spoon]

why don't we see if you people
can answer dr joe k's original post
without mentioning g w bush

Unlike you?

ok, the answer is No.

At that hour, that day, that week he had nothing more important to do for the 20 minutes it took.

Wouldn't the argument mean soooo much more if nothing was getting done early in his tenure? Agree with his policy or not, he's been a busy mother fucker since his start.

[TooLowBrow]

kevin, the guitarist wore a suit

and, yes, black men can blush

[FezsAssistant]

The Messiah can get away with anything he wants as long as he has the media on his side.

[TheMojoPin]

The Messiah can get away with anything he wants as long as he has the media on his side.

Are you Glenn Beck?

[TheMojoPin]

I guess the dentist was too busy being outraged to miss the thread called "Obama on Leno."

[epo]

The economy is in shambles.
The war coninues in the mideast
Yet Obama has time to fill out his bracket as a media opportunity on ESPN.
Tonight he is going to be on Leno without his tie
What exactly is the point of this Bullshit?
We all appreciate this Man of the People crap but to me this is ridiculous.

What do you think?

It is obviously designed to calm the nerves of old white people who are scared about the stock market.

[TheMojoPin]

It is obviously designed to calm the nerves of old white people who are scared about the stock market.

So it's for Dr. Joe?

[Dude!]

I guess the dentist was too busy being outraged to miss the thread called "Obama on Leno."

i guess the mojopin was too busy
revelling in his own brilliance
to miss the post on two panties
by a stupid board crash

[drjoek]

I guess the dentist was too busy being outraged to miss the thread called "Obama on Leno."

Im not the least bit outraged.
But I m sure that if GWB did this the pundits would have a field day with it, But since its Obama its hes just being a man of the people. "In touch"
Just seems like a double standard. What ever I'll Tivo it and watch.

[Judge Smails]

He's gonna have a hard time topping that 99 cent store items bit.

[Slumbag]

Im not the least bit outraged.
But I m sure that if GWB did this the pundits would have a field day with it, But since its Obama its hes just being a man of the people. "In touch"
Just seems like a double standard. What ever I'll Tivo it and watch.

THAT I actually do agree with.

[underdog]

why don't we see if you people
can answer dr joe k's original post
without mentioning g w bush

Wow.

I mentioned Bush, saying that Obama was basically the same.

I really like how you people read whatever the fuck you want, even if its not there.

[TheMojoPin]

But I m sure that if GWB did this the pundits would have a field day with it

Because he would have invariably sounded terrible. The man simply could not speak "on his feet" and not sound awful and cringe-y.

Personally, I've always wondered why presidents didn't appear on talk shows or news shows at least once in a while. It's a medium that people are much more open to to actually listen to what's being said. While being interviewed by Leno is as softball as it gets, I wish presidents showed up on shows like Meet the Press.

[Judge Smails]

Nice American Idol reference. Playing to the ham 'n eggers. Meet the Press this aint.

[TheMojoPin]

i guess the mojopin was too busy
revelling in his own brilliance
to miss the post on two panties
by a stupid board crash

Well, I AM very handsome and intelligent.

[TheGameHHH]

I'd rather see him on The Daily Show.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The economy is in shambles.
The war coninues in the mideast
Yet Obama has time to fill out his bracket as a media opportunity on ESPN.
Tonight he is going to be on Leno without his tie
What exactly is the point of this Bullshit?
We all appreciate this Man of the People crap but to me this is ridiculous.

What do you think?


He just explained the AIG mess for the layman in 30 seconds, something I've never seen done on regular TV.

[drjoek]

He's gonna have a hard time topping that 99 cent store items bit.

Nice American Idol reference. Playing to the ham 'n eggers. Meet the Press this aint.

Somehow i would have hoped our leader would be above this kinda shit.
oh well

[Tenbatsuzen]

Nice American Idol reference. Playing to the ham 'n eggers. Meet the Press this aint.

THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS.

[TheMojoPin]

If he hadn't cracked a joke no doubt some here would be complaning that he was too serious and was acting above it all.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Somehow i would have hoped our leader would be above this kinda shit.
oh well

You don't get it, do you?

The president has never had an air of accessibility. He's never really had a vibe that he's just like us. Obama does.

What the fuck is the president "above"? Being an idiot and destroying our credibility in the world? Getting blow jobs in the white house? C'mon man.

[TheMojoPin]

The president has never had an air of accessibility.

Actually, until the end of the 19th Century, it was (relatively) pretty easy to meet with the president.

[drjoek]

You don't get it, do you?

The president has never had an air of accessibility. He's never really had a vibe that he's just like us. Obama does.

What the fuck is the president "above"? Being an idiot and destroying our credibility in the world? Getting blow jobs in the white house? C'mon man.

Its called having a different opinion. Man
I would prefer a president who wouldnt have to follow stupid pet tricks and being knowledgeable about American Idol karaoke. As i said earlier My opinion is it trivializes the office
Man.

[TooLowBrow]

Its called having a different opinion. Man
I would prefer a president who wouldnt have to follow stupid pet tricks and being knowledgeable about American Idol karaoke. As i said earlier My opinion is it trivializes the office
Man.

all he mentioned was that simon can be mean on american idol. who doesnt know that?

[spoon]

man

[epo]

Its called having a different opinion. Man
I would prefer a president who wouldnt have to follow stupid pet tricks and being knowledgeable about American Idol karaoke. As i said earlier My opinion is it trivializes the office
Man.

Its actually the sign of a really good communicator. Let me explain:

If you are President of the United States you have very little in common with regular people. So to communicate on a free & easy basis you find a "common" point of identification to establish your credibility and rapport with them.

The concept is based in a high-level communication theory developed by Kenneth Burke (http://www.acjournal.org/holdings/vol1/iss3/burke/quigley.html). It is the sign of a great communicator who can do it without pandering.

Let me just say....the man has awesome handlers.

[TheMojoPin]

Man.

[drjoek]

Its actually the sign of a really good communicator. Let me explain:

If you are President of the United States you have very little in common with regular people. So to communicate on a free & easy basis you find a "common" point of identification to establish your credibility and rapport with them.

The concept is based in a high-level communication theory developed by Kenneth Burke (http://www.acjournal.org/holdings/vol1/iss3/burke/quigley.html). It is the sign of a great communicator who can do it without pandering.

Let me just say....the man has awesome handlers.

Man

[drjoek]

Man.

Damn fast!!

[TheMojoPin]

Ouch.

That Special Olympics line is going to bite him in the ass.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad move.

[TooLowBrow]

Ouch.

That Special Olympics line is going to bite him in the ass.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad move.

will the liberal left attack obama?


ok i just heard him say water head

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I'm starting to feel like we elected Murray from Flight of the Concords.

[TheMojoPin]

Now Jay jumping in with the "waterhead" joke.

Good Lord, it's open season on the retarded!

[TheMojoPin]

Talk about veering off a fucking cliff.

Now everything of substance he touched on is going to be glossed over by "OBAMA HATES THE 'TARDS."

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Now Jay jumping in with the "waterhead" joke.

Good Lord, it's open season on the retarded!

You have to admit that of all the minority groups, they're the one least likely to put up a concentrated rebellion. Why not step on their balls a little bit? Nay, why not stomp?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Actually, until the end of the 19th Century, it was (relatively) pretty easy to meet with the president.

Well, the only ones to remember that are Blowhard and PeterDragon.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Talk about veering off a fucking cliff.

Now everything of substance he touched on is going to be glossed over by "OBAMA HATES THE 'TARDS."

I'm surprised the White House didn't put pressure on them to make some edits.

[TooLowBrow]

also obama doesnt want a 'dumb as a polack dog', 'shiftless spic dog', or 'lazy nigger dog'

[Judge Smails]

Really, Jay? Portuguese Waterhead?

That's what I call Fabienne from Pulp Fiction.

http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Maria_de_medeiros.jpg

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Well, the only ones to remember that are Blowhard and PeterDragon.

Hell, Blowhard's probably the one who put Charles Guietau up to the dirty deed

[Slumbag]

Really, Jay? Portuguese Waterhead?

That's what I call Fabienne from Pulp Fiction.

http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Maria_de_medeiros.jpg

I believe her own boyfriend calls her a mongoloid.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm surprised the White House didn't put pressure on them to make some edits.

Maybe they figured it would be overshadowed by the horror of a requested performance by Garth fuckin' Brooks.

[drjoek]

Really, Jay? Portuguese Waterhead?

]

Not jays finest moment there

[TheMojoPin]

Hell, Blowhard's probably the one who put Charles Guietau up to the dirty deed

"They OWE you that job, man! Hey, do you remember slavery? I sure do!"

[underdog]

I'm starting to feel like we elected Murray from Flight of the Concords.

God, I really hope so. I love Murray.

Talk about veering off a fucking cliff.

Now everything of substance he touched on is going to be glossed over by "OBAMA HATES THE 'TARDS."

Who doesn't?

Maybe I should have watched this instead of basketball.

Actually, I'm pretty happy with my choice.

[SP1!]

I've just become used to the President not doing a fucking thing. Bush was on vacation every other week while his cronies did all the dirty work. Seems Obama might be the same.

I'm just hoping Obama's cronies aren't war mongering sociopaths.
No his cronies are too interested in building up socialism and making sure 60% of the populace never pay taxes again keeping the dems in power.

More exposure.
Yeah, a president doesnt really need that does he? Unless hes trying to sell snake oil.

Somehow i would have hoped our leader would be above this kinda shit.
oh well
I would like to honestly know how many elected leaders of nations have gone on TV talk shows, outside of third world countries the number is probably just 1.

Its actually the sign of a really good communicator. Let me explain:

If you are President of the United States you have very little in common with regular people. So to communicate on a free & easy basis you find a "common" point of identification to establish your credibility and rapport with them.

The concept is based in a high-level communication theory developed by Kenneth Burke (http://www.acjournal.org/holdings/vol1/iss3/burke/quigley.html). It is the sign of a great communicator who can do it without pandering.

Let me just say....the man has awesome handlers.
You know who else was a good communicator?
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/866/whatr.jpg

If anyone believes obama is a man of the people then they are too fucking gullible.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I liked the part where President Obama arrived at the motel on Zed's bike and still had the common courtesy to ask Fabi if she had a blueberry pie that morning.

[Judge Smails]

I hear Jimmy Fallon's gonna have the President of the Hair Club for Men

[CofyCrakCocaine]

SP1, your points are childish, inaccurate, and unoriginal at best. Put a pointy hat on and bother somebody else with your comic books.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I hear Jimmy Fallon's gonna have the President of the Hair Club for Men

Not only is he the president... he's also a Marcellus Wallace rapist.

[epo]

No his cronies are too interested in building up socialism and making sure 60% of the populace never pay taxes again keeping the dems in power.


Yeah, a president doesnt really need that does he? Unless hes trying to sell snake oil.


I would like to honestly know how many elected leaders of nations have gone on TV talk shows, outside of third world countries the number is probably just 1.


You know who else was a good communicator?
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/866/whatr.jpg

If anyone believes obama is a man of the people then they are too fucking gullible.

You must be a joy at parties.

[underdog]

No his cronies are too interested in building up socialism and making sure 60% of the populace never pay taxes again keeping the dems in power.

Yeah, his socialist programs like making soldiers pay for their own health care. He's so socialist!

Yeah, a president doesnt really need that does he? Unless hes trying to sell snake oil.

IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE YOU DUMBEST PERSON WHO HAS EVER LIVED.

[TheMojoPin]

Holy shit, we broke SP1!.

[Judge Smails]

Carson Daly will have the President of my son's 5th Grade Class. I hope he drags the fucker over the coals regarding the lack of ketchup packets in the cafeteria.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Yeah, his socialist programs like making soldiers pay for their own health care. He's so socialist!



IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE YOU DUMBEST PERSON WHO HAS EVER LIVED.

He's just mad because Obama made fun of his peeps tonight.

[TheMojoPin]

Oh my God, Jimmy Fallon is awful.

[underdog]

He's just mad because Obama made fun of his peeps tonight.

I said that Obama, possibly the most over exposed president ever, went on a talk show for more exposure. AND HE THOUGHT I WAS SERIOUS.

I've become convinced that SP1!, Jerseysean, & WMT are weird Gvac board characters. He just sits at home and gets all the conservative talking points from all the awful shows and makes posts without changing a word from any of the talking points.

[TheMojoPin]

I said that Obama, possibly the most over exposed president ever, went on a talk show for more exposure. AND HE THOUGHT I WAS SERIOUS.

I've become convinced that SP1!, Jerseysean, & WMT are weird Gvac board characters. He just sits at home and gets all the conservative talking points from all the awful shows and makes posts without changing a word from any of the talking points.

You're leaving out the champ, Fez'sAssisstant. That guy is epic.

[drusilla]

Really, Jay? Portuguese Waterhead?

That's what I call Fabienne from Pulp Fiction.

http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Maria_de_medeiros.jpg

oh my god that made me cackle so loud

all the news sites had stories up about the interview hours ago with quotes & tidbits. but not one mentioned the special olympics quote.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I said that Obama, possibly the most over exposed president ever, went on a talk show for more exposure. AND HE THOUGHT I WAS SERIOUS.

I've become convinced that SP1!, Jerseysean, & WMT are weird Gvac board characters. He just sits at home and gets all the conservative talking points from all the awful shows and makes posts without changing a word from any of the talking points.

Would you believe that perhaps he ... drinks Koolaid? :ohmy:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

You're leaving out the champ, Fez'sAssisstant. That guy is epic.

We should throw one of our "own" into the roving pack of dobermans too... Dino.

[underdog]

You're leaving out the champ, Fez'sAssisstant. That guy is epic.

I also forgot Showerbench.

I'm not even liberal, it's just the mass of retards on the right push me left.

Would you believe that perhaps he ... drinks Koolaid? :ohmy:

I hate you.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

:innocent:

[drusilla]

I've become convinced that SP1!, Jerseysean, & WMT are weird Gvac board characters. He just sits at home and gets all the conservative talking points from all the awful shows and makes posts without changing a word from any of the talking points.



WMT is real. i met him once by accident.

[hammersavage]

His love is real but he is not.

[SP1!]

SP1, your points are childish, inaccurate, and unoriginal at best. Put a pointy hat on and bother somebody else with your comic books.
Thank you, at least I can see him for what he is, a part of the political system who is in no way connected to the common people.

You must be a joy at parties.
I am, you can find out by inviting me to your next event!

Yeah, his socialist programs like making soldiers pay for their own health care for injuries sustained in battle. He's so socialist!

IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE YOU DUMBEST PERSON WHO HAS EVER LIVED.If your gonna rant, at least get it right, but at least you had nice grammar on the second part of aforementioned rant.

Holy shit, we broke SP1!.
No Im just fucking with everyone and living up the stereotype, since everyone has me pigeon holed into some gun toting supremacist.

I am a very rational person but I refuse to buy into the bullshit on either side, if you think either side gives a shit about the people then you are just not using what little grey matter god gave you.

[TheMojoPin]

OK, Wavy-Gravy.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Ew why the fuck do I have 4000+ posts? What kind of foul internet beast have I become?
Sorry I forgot what we were talking about.

[SP1!]

I said that Obama, possibly the most over exposed president ever, went on a talk show for more exposure. AND HE THOUGHT I WAS SERIOUS.

I've become convinced that SP1!, Jerseysean, & WMT are weird Gvac board characters. He just sits at home and gets all the conservative talking points from all the awful shows and makes posts without changing a word from any of the talking points.

Again since no one pays attention, I am not republican at all, I cant stand rush, oreilly, hannity or any other stuffed suit talking out of their ass but for some reason since I do not go along with the pack I am somehow a baby killin', bible totin', terrorist hatin' publican. I get bitched at by friends who are republican because I didnt go along or think Iraq was a good idea and you would have thought I jerked off on their salads when I said that bush seemed incompetent sometimes. But Im not about to buy into this other party all of a sudden saying they are for the people when they have no track record of actually caring about the country as a whole.

Fuck people, get over it, you were suckered. You got sold a bill of goods by a party who knew when to sell it, its nothing to be ashamed of it happens to everyone(see the american public circa 2004).

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Again since no one pays attention, I am not republican at all, I cant stand rush, oreilly, hannity or any other stuffed suit talking out of their ass but for some reason since I do not go along with the pack I am somehow a baby killin', bible totin', terrorist hatin' publican. I get bitched at by friends who are republican because I didnt go along or think Iraq was a good idea and you would have thought I jerked off on their salads when I said that bush seemed incompetent sometimes. But Im not about to buy into this other party all of a sudden saying they are for the people when they have no track record of actually caring about the country as a whole.

Fuck people, get over it, you were suckered. You got sold a bill of goods by a party who knew when to sell it, its nothing to be ashamed of it happens to everyone.

p.s. you have a strip of toilet paper sticking to your shoe

[TheMojoPin]

Again since no one pays attention, I am not republican at all, I cant stand rush, oreilly, hannity or any other stuffed suit talking out of their ass but for some reason since I do not go along with the pack I am somehow a baby killin', bible totin', terrorist hatin' publican. I get bitched at by friends who are republican because I didnt go along or think Iraq was a good idea and you would have thought I jerked off on their salads when I said that bush seemed incompetent sometimes. But Im not about to buy into this other party all of a sudden saying they are for the people when they have no track record of actually caring about the country as a whole.

Fuck people, get over it, you were suckered. You got sold a bill of goods by a party who knew when to sell it, its nothing to be ashamed of it happens to everyone(see the american public circa 2004).

You spend a remarkable amount of time defending your lack of political ideologies for someone who spends most of their posts talking about politics.

[WampusCrandle]

Ew why the fuck do I have 4000+ posts? What kind of foul internet beast have I become?
Sorry I forgot what we were talking about.

its ok, i feel your pain ...

[drusilla]

Obama Likens His Bowling Game to Special Olympics (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/03/obama_likens_his_bowling_game.html)

[foodcourtdruide]

Obama shouldn't have made this joke and to be honest he shouldn't have been on the Tonight Show to begin with. I think it's a very good thing that this administration will be much more scrutinized and open to the media than the previous administration, however I'd prefer Obama have an image as our President rather than perpetuating his image as pop-culture icon. I really hope this will make him take a step back from appearances like this for a while.

[Furtherman]

OK, Wavy-Gravy.

Hahahaha.

You spend a remarkable amount of time defending your lack of political ideologies for someone who spends most of their posts talking about politics.

Which is why we can't take his supposedly sarcastic posts seriously.



And Obama's special olympics joke? For a country that is becoming way to PC, I thought it was refreshing - and, oh my... he's like.... like..... one of us! That was a real moment, not phony.

Critics of his going on the tonight show are swinging at ANYTHING to make this look bad. It's not a big deal. It's not a monumental first and it's not going to make anyone think less of him who already does just because he's a Democrat.

[hammersavage]

And Obama's special olympics joke? For a country that is becoming way to PC, I thought it was refreshing - and, oh my... he's like.... like..... one of us! That was a real moment, not phony.

I gotta say, if Bush said it he would have been destroyed. I don't mind the joke but it would definitely be on Bush's real of dumb shit that would make you shake your head.

[KingGeno]

I gotta say, if Bush said it he would have been destroyed. I don't mind the joke but it would definitely be on Bush's real of dumb shit that would make you shake your head.

Yea, but bush never came out and said "all retards bowl".......

[foodcourtdruide]

I gotta say, if Bush said it he would have been destroyed. I don't mind the joke but it would definitely be on Bush's real of dumb shit that would make you shake your head.

But Obama is taking hits because of his comment. Why do we act like we live in a vacuum where no one criticizes or attacks Obama? I don't understand it.

[drjoek]

Hahahaha.

And Obama's special olympics joke? For a country that is becoming way to PC, I thought it was refreshing - and, oh my... he's like.... like..... one of us! That was a real moment, not phony.

Critics of his going on the tonight show are swinging at ANYTHING to make this look bad. It's not a big deal. It's not a monumental first and it's not going to make anyone think less of him who already does just because he's a Democrat.

I completely disagree. Having a nephew with Downs Syndrome the fact that he choses to make a Special Olympics joke is WAY off base and not acceptible.
I found it offensive.

[foodcourtdruide]

I completely disagree. Having a nephew with Downs Syndrome the fact that he choses to make a Special Olympics joke is WAY off base and not acceptible.
I found it offensive.

It was a stupid thing for a President to say, there's no doubt about that. Whether we like it or not, this country is HYPER sensitive. He should know that and have never made that joke.

[drjoek]

It was a stupid thing for a President to say, there's no doubt about that. Whether we like it or not, this country is HYPER sensitive. He should know that and have never made that joke.



My point exactly the joke did not need to be made.

[A.J.]

Funny. No outcry yet from the Kennedy family over the Special Olympics remark.

And yet they were so vocal with Tropic Thunder....

[KingGeno]

Do you think it may have to do with him being a black man, and the Kennedy's and various others not wanting to turn it into a fiasco or war of words that drag Jesse Jackson's and Reverand Al's into it? They will return fire with the "simple mistake or slip of words' defense, which then segues into "Didn't Imus do the same thing? What's the difference?" and "Shouldn't Obama pay for this terrible thing he said?" Who knows what the Special Olympics or mentally challenged people will say....

or is it ok because he is the president?

What a mess this country is with spoken word. Not fair at all...nothing makes sense.

[Furtherman]

I gotta say, if Bush said it he would have been destroyed. I don't mind the joke but it would definitely be on Bush's real of dumb shit that would make you shake your head.

For Bush it just would have been one more to tack on his thousand yard list of gafs.

[Furtherman]

My point exactly the joke did not need to be made.

I doubt that he thought about telling a bowling story and figured "I'll liken it to the special olympics! That'll get 'em!"

It was an off the cuff remark.

And guess what? The audience laughed. And a lot of other people watching did too. Shouldn't they be just as criticized? Shouldn't they be condemned for not replying with a "boooooo!"?

Mistakes like that happen in seconds between thought and voice. Before you had a nephew with DS... did you never make a similar joke?

Poor taste in hindsight, but nothing to crucify him for, just because you're not a fan to begin with.

[Fatwreck86]

I thought he was great- Barrack Obama, the hippest president we've ever had.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Furtherman hired by Obama administration to act as their leading apologist! More at 11!

[A.J.]

Do you think it may have to do with him being a black man, and the Kennedy's and various others not wanting to turn it into a fiasco or war of words that drag Jesse Jackson's and Reverand Al's into it? They will return fire with the "simple mistake or slip of words' defense, which then segues into "Didn't Imus do the same thing? What's the difference?" and "Shouldn't Obama pay for this terrible thing he said?" Who knows what the Special Olympics or mentally challenged people will say....

or is it ok because he is the president?

What a mess this country is with spoken word. Not fair at all...nothing makes sense.

The Kennedys famously endorsed Obama which pretty much put him over the top during the primaries. No way are they going to be consistent and publicly admonish him.

[drjoek]

See that's all that's needed acknowldge the error and apologize.
Time to move on.

[angrymissy]

I'd love to know what went through his head after it came out of his mouth. I'm going to imagine it was "Oh shit."

[TheMojoPin]

Do you think it may have to do with him being a black man, and the Kennedy's and various others not wanting to turn it into a fiasco or war of words that drag Jesse Jackson's and Reverand Al's into it? They will return fire with the "simple mistake or slip of words' defense, which then segues into "Didn't Imus do the same thing? What's the difference?" and "Shouldn't Obama pay for this terrible thing he said?" Who knows what the Special Olympics or mentally challenged people will say....

or is it ok because he is the president?

What a mess this country is with spoken word. Not fair at all...nothing makes sense.

The different political spectrums rarely attack their own along those lines.

[TheMojoPin]

I'd love to know what went through his head after it came out of his mouth. I'm going to imagine it was "Oh shit."

Yeah, no way around it, it was a really poor choice of words, which is too bad since I think the rest of the interview went so well and was what I wanted to see him try and do.

[A.J.]

I'd love to know what went through his head after it came out of his mouth. I'm going to imagine it was "Oh shit."

Followed by "I'm such a retard".

[TheMojoPin]

Followed by "I'm such a retard".

It was like the floodgates were opened for BigChin McHackFace sitting next to him.

"The president made a Special Olympics joke?!? I'm going after the waterheads!"

[drjoek]

I think the waterhead line was lost on him though. He replied like it was water... or something like that.
Thankfully our president isn't THAT well informed.

[TheMojoPin]

I think the waterhead line was lost on him though. He replied like it was water... or something like that.
Thankfully our president isn't THAT well informed.

Maybe. I was thinking it sounded like he probably knew what it was and realized what he just said because it seemed like he was trying to navigate that very carefully.

[west milly Tom]

Let me guess, its no big deal and we should just move on. I didn't even read the thread now I'm going to go back and count how many times that was said.

[angrymissy]

Let me guess, its no big deal and we should just move on. I didn't even read the thread now I'm going to go back and count how many times that was said.

Do you think we should not move on?

I think he fucked up, but it's not anything Earth shattering that should be demonized for weeks.

[TheMojoPin]

Let me guess, its no big deal and we should just move on. I didn't even read the thread now I'm going to go back and count how many times that was said.

It's pretty clear most here think it was a stupid thing to say, but you talk as if we should do something other than "moving on." If he makes it a habit of saying really dumb things, hey, our skills are honed in regards to criticizing such things. In the meantime, however, why wouldn't we be moving on?

[west milly Tom]

WMT is real. i met him once by accident.


And you haven't been able to get me out of your mind since.



Lots of shit talking in this thread. I love you joke ass bastards ranting about how people with viewpoints other than yours are epic, or dumb, or spouting mindlessly. You should pull your heads out of your respective asses and wake up. Why is it ok for liberals to be biggoted? You jump at conservative thinkers like rabid dogs. Get over yourselves.

[angrymissy]

And you haven't been able to get me out of your mind since.

Lots of shit talking in this thread. I love you joke ass bastards ranting about how people with viewpoints other than yours are epic, or dumb, or spouting mindlessly. You should pull your heads out of your respective asses and wake up. Why is it ok for liberals to be biggoted? You jump at conservative thinkers like rabid dogs. Get over yourselves.

Ummmm, who said it was ok? Like mojo said, yeah, that was a fuck up, but it wasn't like he said something like "LOL I BOWL LIKE A RAGHEAD TARD".

[west milly Tom]

It's pretty clear most here think it was a stupid thing to say, but you talk as if we should do something other than "moving on." If he makes it a habit of saying really dumb things, hey, our skills are honed in regards to criticizing such things. In the meantime, however, why wouldn't we be moving on?



This wasn't the first stupid thing he said, nor will it be the last. Remember calling Palin vulgar and unpolished? Who's who now?

[west milly Tom]

Ummmm, who said it was ok? Like mojo said, yeah, that was a fuck up, but it wasn't like he said something like "LOL I BOWL LIKE A RAGHEAD TARD".



Cover for your boy, predictable.

[TheMojoPin]

This wasn't the first stupid thing he said, nor will it be the last. Remember calling Palin vulgar and unpolished? Who's who now?

Palin is stull vulgar and unpolished. Obama is not. Hope that clears it up for you.

You act like most of us here expected him never to make a gaffe or a poor choice of words or stumble as he speaks, etc. from time to time as everyone does yet you're likely the one claiming that we had unrealistic expectations of him as being "perfect." Which is it? Do you want it both ways? Who actually has the unrealistic expectations that change at the drop of a hat?

[TheMojoPin]

Cover for your boy, predictable.

Bravo on dispelling as to why people look at you as a vague, unreasonable idealogue.

[angrymissy]

Cover for your boy, predictable.

Hellooooo, I said HE FUCKED UP. It's gonna happen. Contrary to popular belief, we don't think he is, indeed, the Messiah.

[west milly Tom]

Palin is stull vulgar and unpolished. Obama is not. Hope that clears it up for you.



So there you have it, you're honesty is refreshing. Obama makes a slur, Biden curses at reporters but Mc Cain and Palin are the vulgar. Smooth mojo.

[angrymissy]

Palin is stull vulgar and unpolished. Obama is not. Hope that clears it up for you.

You act like most of us here expected him never to make a gaffe or a poor choice of words or stumble as he speaks, etc. from time to time as everyone does yet you're likely the one claiming that we had unrealistic expectations of him as being "perfect." Which is it? Do you want it both ways? Who actually has the unrealistic expectations that change at the drop of a hat?

I can't find any reference to Obama calling Palin vulgar and unpolished anywhere on teh interwebs, did this even happen (even though I would agree with it).

[foodcourtdruide]

Let me guess, its no big deal and we should just move on. I didn't even read the thread now I'm going to go back and count how many times that was said.

Why would you say this before reading the thread? If you think so low of us why do you post here?

[Judge Smails]

I originally made fun of Leno but I'm now seriously starting to think that his "waterhead" comment was actually a Freudian slip. I can see him thinking to himself: "Holy Shit! The President of the United States just made a Special Olympics joke on my show. This will be all over the news tomorrow and could very well blow-up in Obama's face." Jay then blurts out "waterhead" instead of "waterdog".

While it was obvious that Obama had no idea what "waterhead" referred to I can't believe that Jay, as a comedian, has never heard the word "waterhead". His use of the term had to have been unconscious.

[angrymissy]

So there you have it, you're honesty is refreshing. Obama makes a slur, Biden curses at reporters but Mc Cain and Palin are the vulgar. Smooth mojo.

I would personally like more cursing.

[Freitag]

Palin is stull vulgar and unpolished.

I'm not a fan of Palin, she's one of the main reasons I voted for Obama, but calling her vulgar is untrue. Unpolished? Yes. Vulgar? no.

[foodcourtdruide]

So there you have it, you're honesty is refreshing. Obama makes a slur, Biden curses at reporters but Mc Cain and Palin are the vulgar. Smooth mojo.

Who called McCain vulgar? The thing with his wife was vulgar, but I wouldn't call him vulgar. I don't know if I'd consider Palin vulgar, I just think she's not very bright.

[angrymissy]

I cannot find reference anywhere to Obama ever calling Palin vulgar and unpolished.

[west milly Tom]

He should have never been on Leno to begin with he's the fucking president not the Jonas brothers.

[TheMojoPin]

So there you have it, you're honesty is refreshing. Obama makes a slur, Biden curses at reporters but Mc Cain and Palin are the vulgar. Smooth mojo.

Wait, how did McCain end up in this? Who called him "vulgar?"

And yes, if you can't see the difference between Palin and Obama intellectually and how they communicate and present themselves, there's really no point in discussing it further since you're just being willfully obstinate. Nobody is saying that any of these people are without their flaws, but the continued reasoning that Palin and Obama are comparable as speakers and intellectuals is ridiculous. A stupid joke on his part doesn't plunge him to her level.

[angrymissy]

He should have never been on Leno to begin with he's the fucking president not the Jonas brothers.

Can you show me where Obama called Palin "vulgar" and "unpolished"?

[TheMojoPin]

I'm not a fan of Palin, she's one of the main reasons I voted for Obama, but calling her vulgar is untrue. Unpolished? Yes. Vulgar? no.

Palin fits many of the definitions of "vulgar" quite perfectly. It doesn't only apply to describing someone cursing like a sailor.

[epo]

Furtherman hired by Obama administration to act as their leading apologist! More at 11!

I thought that was my job? Dammit!

[TheMojoPin]

He should have never been on Leno to begin with he's the fucking president not the Jonas brothers.

Yeah, but you don't think he should be anywhere to begin with.

[ChrisTheCop]

I havent seen the video, but reading the article, Obama's comments dont seem all that bad.

He was talking about his own bowling score, Leno said it's not bad, and it seems Obama wouldve been better saying, "In the Special Olympics." The end. But ok, he's not a polished comedian, so he flubbed the line, or whatever.

If the special interests groups that usually jump on this sort of non-thing DONT jump on him, then I'll see a double standard. But I personally dont find it offensive or mean spirited.

The waterhead comment by Leno does seem derogatory.

Edited for clarification: I'm generally conservative.

[Furtherman]

He should have never been on Leno to begin with he's the fucking president not the Jonas brothers.

Yea! He's the fucking president! He should be in the fucking White House being all pres-I-fuckin'-dential! Why isn't he working 24-7?! Why is he bowling and going on TV!?

What's the difference between going on as a candidate and going on while you've been elected? Most Americans get their televised news at 11pm. Why not see what the President has to say by staying up an extra half hour?

This is just the first in many false outrages to come!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

There's a reason conservatives generally have a stigmatism of stupidity attached to them.

[Freitag]

He should have never been on Leno to begin with he's the fucking president not the Jonas brothers.

So, why can't the president go on a talk show to discuss what's going on with the people in an informal setting?

That's the key part - INFORMAL. Most americans don't watch speeches or CSPAN.

[Furtherman]

There's a reason conservatives generally have a stigmatism of stupidity attached to them.

It's only the hard-core ones that do.

They're the same as the die-hard fans of a football team that has lost the Super Bowl and they only response they have to the winners is "You suck!"

[CofyCrakCocaine]

It's only the hard-core ones that do.

They're the same as the die-hard fans of a football team that has lost the Super Bowl and they only response they have to the winners is "You suck!"

Unfortunately, that's the only type of conservatives who seem to ever speak up on this board. I wish we had intelligent conservatives here. They'd understand how stupid they would look if they whined about persecution while wearing 3-piece suits.

[Freitag]

Obama appearing on leno = good

Obama appeaing on The What Show = no good

[underdog]

Let me guess, its no big deal and we should just move on. I didn't even read the thread now I'm going to go back and count how many times that was said.

You're right, we shouldn't move on. We should harp on this for the next 4 years. Actually, I think Obama should resign from office right now.

[ChrisTheCop]

Unfortunately, that's the only type of conservatives who seem to ever speak up on this board. I wish we had intelligent conservatives here. They'd understand how stupid they would look if they whined about persecution while wearing 3-piece suits.

Hence my edit. We dont like to be lumped into a group anymore than anyone else.

[foodcourtdruide]

Unfortunately, that's the only type of conservatives who seem to ever speak up on this board. I wish we had intelligent conservatives here. They'd understand how stupid they would look if they whined about persecution while wearing 3-piece suits.

I think there are some intelligent conservatives on this board.

[ChrisTheCop]

You're right, we shouldn't move on. We should harp on this for the next 4 years. Actually, I think Obama should resign from office right now.

Yes. Thats EXACTLY what he was saying.

[foodcourtdruide]

You're right, we shouldn't move on. We should harp on this for the next 4 years. Actually, I think Obama should resign from office right now.

That's what I'm not understanding about the "IF THIS WAS BUSH THEY'D BE GOING CRAZY!!!!!" idea. What exactly would be different?

If this was Bush here's what would have happened:
Some of the left would have attacked him.
Some of the right would have said "let's just move on"

Sound familiar?

[underdog]

Yes. Thats EXACTLY what he was saying.

What was he saying? Everyone before his post was saying that Obama fucked up, but that's not enough for him. What then?

[ChrisTheCop]

What was he saying? Everyone before his post was saying that Obama fucked up, but that's not enough for him. What then?

Take a deep breath. Relax. To quote the great Billy Shatz,
"It's just a tv show. It's JUST a tv show!!"

[underdog]

That's what I'm not understanding about the "IF THIS WAS BUSH THEY'D BE GOING CRAZY!!!!!" idea. What exactly would be different?

If this was Bush here's what would have happened:
Some of the left would have attacked him.
Some of the right would have said "let's just move on"

Sound familiar?

If Bush did it, there'd be less of the right saying "he fucked up, let's move on." And there'd probably be a lot of "If you attack the president, you're attacking America and you hate freedom."

I'm a pretty conservative person (or was, I suppose), but I'm just so fucking sick of the "attack him because he's the other party" shit that goes on. It bothered the fuck out of me when liberals did it, now its all conservatives do. If someone likes Obama, its because they bought into the hype, not because they agree with him.

And constantly hearing nonsense like "forced liberalism is worse than Nazis" and blaming Obama for the BofA bailout infuriates me. Why participate in a political conversation if you're just going to be a nonsensical repeater.

[underdog]

Take a deep breath. Relax. To quote the great Billy Shatz,
"It's just a tv show. It's JUST a tv show!!"

I'm relaxed. I didn't even watch the Tonight Show. Obama said retard or something. Big fucking whoop. If Bush had said it, I would have said the same thing. Retard is like the 5th word out of my mouth at all times.

[hammersavage]

I'm relaxed. I didn't even watch the Tonight Show. Obama said retard or something. Big fucking whoop. If Bush had said it, I would have said the same thing. Retard is like the 5th word out of my mouth at all times.

Can we fuck again, retard?

[underdog]

Can we fuck again, retard?

Like I ask permission.

[west milly Tom]

Unfortunately, that's the only type of conservatives who seem to ever speak up on this board. I wish we had intelligent conservatives here. They'd understand how stupid they would look if they whined about persecution while wearing 3-piece suits.



This is the exact sentiment I talk about. Its liberal bigotry. If you're conservative you're stupid.


If you go ahead and just say .net conservatives are stupid that's even worse. Do I think you're wrong, most of the time. Have I ever said liberals are all idiots, not once.

[underdog]

This is the exact sentiment I talk about. Its liberal bigotry. If you're conservative you're stupid.


If you go ahead and just say .net conservatives are stupid that's even worse. Do I think you're wrong, most of the time. Have I ever said liberals are all idiots, not once.

Why is everyone here a liberal or a conservative?

[west milly Tom]

Why is everyone here a liberal or a conservative?

Everyone here, in this discussion is.

[underdog]

Everyone here, in this discussion is.

Really? I don't think I'm either.

And you still haven't clarified that "vulgar" comment you made.

[west milly Tom]

Really? I don't think I'm either.

And you still haven't clarified that "vulgar" comment you made.



What needs clarity? As a campaign strategy Palin was regularly referred to as vulgar after the pig in lipstick comment. Not by Obama, by his team and pundits.

[angrymissy]

What needs clarity? As a campaign strategy Palin was regularly referred to as vulgar after the pig in lipstick comment. Not by Obama, by his team and pundits.

Show me a quote, cause I can't find it. No one called her "vulgar" or "unpolished", that would have been all over the news.

You said:


This wasn't the first stupid thing he said, nor will it be the last. Remember calling Palin vulgar and unpolished? Who's who now?

[west milly Tom]

Show me a quote, cause I can't find it. No one called her "vulgar" or "unpolished", that would have been all over the news.

You said:



Are you dense? I said Obama never said it himself, his people did. And I don't need a citation it was widely broadcast and printed, but check out the Rolling Stone article titled "the lies of Sarah Palin".

[underdog]

Are you dense? I said Obama never said it himself, his people did. And I don't need a citation it was widely broadcast and printed, but check out the Rolling Stone article titled "the lies of Sarah Palin".

She quoted your original post where you implied that Obama said it. You basically had to be begged to clarify your statement, which you then said his people said it. You just throw out mis-truths and ignore people when they call you on it.

[angrymissy]

Are you dense? I said Obama never said it himself, his people did. And I don't need a citation it was widely broadcast and printed, but check out the Rolling Stone article titled "the lies of Sarah Palin".

If it was widely broadcast and printed, I'd be able to find it online... and you'd easily be able to shoot me a link showing one of Obama's "people" saying it.

http://brightideasgroupblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/matt-taibbis-lies-of-sarah-palin.html

There is the article, the word vulgar or unpolished is not even mentioned. It's an Opinion piece written by a rock magazine, that has absolutely nothing to do with Obama or his "people".

Obama nor his "people" never called her vulgar (and yes, you phrased your post as saying HE (obama) said it). It would be referenced ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE if that was true.

Again, here is your quote
This wasn't the first stupid thing he said, nor will it be the last. Remember calling Palin vulgar and unpolished? Who's who now?

I hate it when people make shit up.

[west milly Tom]

If it was widely broadcast and printed, I'd be able to find it online... and you'd easily be able to shoot me a link showing one of Obama's "people" saying it.

http://brightideasgroupblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/matt-taibbis-lies-of-sarah-palin.html

There is the article, the word vulgar or unpolished is not even mentioned. It's an Opinion piece written by a rock magazine, that has absolutely nothing to do with Obama or his "people".

Obama nor his "people" never called her vulgar (and yes, you phrased your post as saying HE (obama) said it). It would be referenced ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE if that was true.

Again, here is your quote


I hate it when people make shit up.



Its not made up, I will not allow semantics to detract from the original point. I said he said stupid things you read it however you want. You ever notice that when a point is made you resort to semantics to distract?

[angrymissy]

Its not made up, I will not allow semantics to detract from the original point. I said he said stupid things you read it however you want. You ever notice that when a point is made you resort to semantics to distract?

No, you made a statement that you can't back up and are backpedaling. Big pet peeve of mine when people throw out statements as truth that they cannot back up.

Now you said he just said "stupid things" after you harped on the "vulgar" comments for post after post.

Again If it's not made up, you should easily be able to show me a link. You see - when you resort to throwing out lies and half-truths, it kind of weakens the your original point... but you really didn't make one now, did you? You blew in said "I DIDN'T READ THE THREAD BUT YOU LIBERALS OF COURSE WILL DO A, B AND C", then accused Obama (then it was "his people") of making comments about Palin that he never made.

[Freitag]

man, WMT is just giving missy loads of show prep for tonight.

[topless_mike]

man, WMT is just giving missy loads of show prep for tonight.

i was thinking same thing.
i cant wait.

[Furtherman]

Everyone here, in this discussion is.

Sorry, but you're just yelling "You suck!" to the side that won again. It's not as black and white as the conservative pundits say it is.

[underdog]

Sorry, but you're just yelling "You suck!" to the side that won again. It's not as black and white as the conservative pundits say it is.

The force liberalism on this board is frightening.

[epo]

Everyone here, in this discussion is.

I'm a big liberal.

[Furtherman]

The force liberalism on this board is frightening.

Ya, it's kampforting.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

This is the exact sentiment I talk about. Its liberal bigotry. If you're conservative you're stupid.

If you go ahead and just say .net conservatives are stupid that's even worse. Do I think you're wrong, most of the time. Have I ever said liberals are all idiots, not once.

I didn't get enough sleep today so I'm crankier than normal. Sue me. I have an uncle who is a professor and is ardently right-wing, so I know that the stigmatism I referenced is bullshit. I was not thinking of CTC or Udog when I kavetched- I haven't seen many right-wing posts that were not something lifted off of FoxNews.

I hate blanket statements as much as you say you do. I don't like it when anybody speaks in sweeping generalizations and petulant hypersensitivity makes people sound childish. And you said you hadn't read this thread when you started sounding off about what we all were, which doesn't make your argument look good.

I prefer rational debate. If you have a point, make it a good one or else you contribute to the stigmatism of "conservatives are dumb."

[epo]

What needs clarity? As a campaign strategy Palin was regularly referred to as vulgar after the pig in lipstick comment. Not by Obama, by his team and pundits.

The strategy was never to potrait governor Palin as "vulgar". The strategy was to portray her as not prepared for a national stage.

Of course...they didn't need to do to much work after Palin couldn't define the "Bush Doctrine" to Charlie Gibson.

[topless_mike]

Of course...they didn't need to do to much work after Palin couldn't define the "Bush Doctrine" to Charlie Gibson.

im a conservative, and i thought that was hysterical.

[angrymissy]

Maybe you are talking about an Op Ed piece written by Peggy Noonan with the quote:

The title of the article was Palin's Failin'

In the end the Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It's no good, not for conservatism and not for the country. And yes, it is a mark against John McCain, against his judgment and idealism.

Peggy Noonan is a conservative who was a speech writer for Ronald Reagan and campaigned for Bush.

[west milly Tom]

No, you made a statement that you can't back up and are backpedaling. Big pet peeve of mine when people throw out statements as truth that they cannot back up.

Now you said he just said "stupid things" after you harped on the "vulgar" comments for post after post.

Again If it's not made up, you should easily be able to show me a link. You see - when you resort to throwing out lies and half-truths, it kind of weakens the your original point... but you really didn't make one now, did you? You blew in said "I DIDN'T READ THE THREAD BUT YOU LIBERALS OF COURSE WILL DO A, B AND C", then accused Obama (then it was "his people") of making comments about Palin that he never made.



I absolutely will.

From the daily news:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/28/2008-10-28_double_standard_for_sarah_palin_only_pro.html
Detractors have called her a hick, made fun of her accent, ogled her legs, scoffed at her considerable experience and symbolically evoked her women's advocacy card. She has been condescendingly criticized as parochial, unpolished and unprepared

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Here's why I took a hot dump on SP1 last night. He made the exact same retarded comparison of a president as being Hitler just as the liberals did with the Bush Administration. Since I hate that fucking comparison no matter what side makes it and because all the morons of the country love to harp on this non-existent link, I will attack.

When people make those comparisons, it shows they don't know anything about who the Nazis were, what they did, or what the differences between Nazis and democratically elected American politicians are. It's just the equivalent of yelling in class "Boooo, Teech! Skool droolz! Fuck you!"

Had SP1 not made that fucking non-point, I would probably have left him alone. I can't speak for everyone else in this thread, but I'm not really liberal. I am just anti-stupid.

[west milly Tom]

The strategy was never to potrait governor Palin as "vulgar". The strategy was to portray her as not prepared for a national stage.

Of course...they didn't need to do to much work after Palin couldn't define the "Bush Doctrine" to Charlie Gibson.



She has more executive experience than our president.

[TheMojoPin]

Oh my good God.

[Furtherman]

I absolutely will.

From the daily news:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/28/2008-10-28_double_standard_for_sarah_palin_only_pro.html
Detractors have called her a hick, made fun of her accent, ogled her legs, scoffed at her considerable experience and symbolically evoked her women's advocacy card. She has been condescendingly criticized as parochial, unpolished and unprepared

You might as well have just quoted yourself. Although I have no doubt that Obama supporters used such terms, just as McCain supporters used terms like "terrorist", it still makes no difference in the long run.

[Furtherman]

She has more executive experience than our president.

Hahahahaha.

[west milly Tom]

man, WMT is just giving missy loads of show prep for tonight.

I'd love to call in, Make it interesting.

[epo]

She has more executive experience than our president.

What are we on a talking point schoolyard? Seriously, let's look at Governor Palin for what she is: a young politician who isn't good at governing but has an oil rich state that is swimming in free federal tax dollars.

The attempts to ever compare her to Obama attempted to belittle Obama and made the McCain campaign look small.

[Freitag]

I'd love to call in, Make it interesting.

In all honesty, go for it.

[west milly Tom]

You might as well have just quoted yourself. Although I have no doubt that Obama supporters used such terms, just as McCain supporters used terms like "terrorist", it still makes no difference in the long run.



Obama supporters wore Palin is a cunt t shirts. And again subject change and semantics prevail

[topless_mike]

I'd love to call in, Make it interesting.

i would so put off my friday nite jack session to hear you call into the show and debate her on air...

[west milly Tom]

In all honesty, go for it.



#? What time do they go?

[CofyCrakCocaine]

She has more executive experience than our president.

I'm sorry, but I've been in Alaska and it's NOT A STATE. It's like... a really big national park that people live inside. They don't even have roads that connect most of their towns for god's sake! The road literally ends in Juneau, and you can't even drive to Juneau from Washington!

Governors of Alaska are the equivalent of small-town Canadian mayors when it comes to executive experience. Senators are bigger deals than governors ever were. And all the factoids aside, she really had no clue what she was doing. I found her agonizingly patronising, insultingly simplistic, and out of touch with most of the country with her Alaskan bird's-eye-view of the USA. Vermont gets accused of having a similar problem with their politics, and I'm inclined to agree with that.

So much for executive experience.

[TheMojoPin]

Obama supporters wore Palin is a cunt t shirts. And again subject change and semantics prevail

Nothing to do with your assertion of what Obama or "his people" said.

[west milly Tom]

i would so put off my friday nite jack session to hear you call into the show and debate her on air...



It wouldn't be much of a debate.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

It wouldn't be much of a debate.

Go for it. Keep a cool head and when they start screaming at ya, they'll look like the tards.

[underdog]

Obama supporters wore Palin is a cunt t shirts.

And?

[TheMojoPin]

It wouldn't be much of a debate.

Based on how poorly backed up you present your cases here without anything but hyperbole coupled with how the What Show hosts tend to go off the deep end, I agree.

[west milly Tom]

I'm sorry, but I've been in Alaska and it's NOT A STATE.
So much for executive experience.



It is sir. I have the quarter to prove it.

[Furtherman]

Obama supporters wore Palin is a cunt t shirts. And again subject change and semantics prevail

Although I never saw such a shirt, I'm sure it was a couple of people. To call them Obama supporters is a sweeping generalization.

I could throw up clips of McCain rubes talking about terrorism, Islam and "that acorn thing" all day, but it doesn't matter because I, and any one with common sense know that they are a minority of the situation.

And you keep mentioning semantics. That is not a term that can apply to answers you could give real examples of.

[west milly Tom]

And?



Exactly, thanks for making it easy.

[epo]

Obama supporters wore Palin is a cunt t shirts. And again subject change and semantics prevail

So? A few maniacs define a candidate?

And the supporter rock throwing is ironic considering the fervor that Palin helped to create at McCain-Palin rallies about Obama.

Governor Palin is obviously living in a glass house on this one.

[TheMojoPin]

...

[CofyCrakCocaine]

...

omfg mojo's been knocked the fuck out!!!! start the count mario!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

So? A few maniacs define a candidate?

And the supporter rock throwing is ironic considering the fervor that Palin helped to create at McCain-Palin rallies about Obama.

Governor Palin is obviously living in a glass house on this one.

Since KHB I now think anyone who uses the glass houses analogy is retarded by association.

[angrymissy]

I absolutely will.

From the daily news:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/28/2008-10-28_double_standard_for_sarah_palin_only_pro.html
Detractors have called her a hick, made fun of her accent, ogled her legs, scoffed at her considerable experience and symbolically evoked her women's advocacy card. She has been condescendingly criticized as parochial, unpolished and unprepared

Really? By Obama or his "people"?

[Dude!]

Since KHB I now think anyone who uses the glass houses analogy is retarded by association.

henceforth i will always associate bowling with the retarded

[CofyCrakCocaine]

henceforth i will always associate bowling with the retarded

I've felt that way since at least Big Lebowski. I find it funny that people want to bowl after watching it.

[Furtherman]

Really? By Obama or his "people"?

Maybe he's playing the Six Degrees Of Separation game.

[Furtherman]

I've felt that way since at least Big Lebowski. I find it funny that people want to bowl after watching it.

Or drink White Russians.

[epo]

I've felt that way since at least Big Lebowski. I find it funny that people want to bowl after watching it.

The only desire I have after the movie is to drink white russians.

[epo]

Maybe he's playing the Six Degrees Of Separation game.

Is he implying that Kevin Bacon called Palin a C?

[Furtherman]

Is he implying that Kevin Bacon called Palin a C?

Absolutely! He's a crazy lefty Hollywood liberal who is a bad influence on ministers' daughters and small town hicks with two left feet!

[epo]

Absolutely! He's a crazy lefty Hollywood liberal who is a bad influence on ministers' daughters and small town hicks with two left feet!

I think Ren McCormack knocked up Bristol.

[SP1!]

You spend a remarkable amount of time defending your lack of political ideologies for someone who spends most of their posts talking about politics.Oh I have political ideologies, its just that neither side represents me. Its also why I choose not to vote in presidential elections and just vote locally, its easier to make changes there and get out the morons.

If I had to describe my political leanings it would be slightly right but there are so many points I disagree with them on that in those circles I get called a liberal. I am anti-drug war, anti-anti-abortion, pro stem cell research, and dont give a shit about whether gays get married. That about most of their main talking points and I am on the left of their arguments so in their little world Im the enemy. Yet friends I have on the left think that because I wont jump on board that man caused global warming completely and that I am against gun control that makes me a neo con. There is nothing in presidential politics that I believe is going to suit me anytime soon.

Which is why we can't take his supposedly sarcastic posts seriously.

And Obama's special olympics joke? For a country that is becoming way to PC, I thought it was refreshing - and, oh my... he's like.... like..... one of us! That was a real moment, not phony.

Critics of his going on the tonight show are swinging at ANYTHING to make this look bad. It's not a big deal. It's not a monumental first and it's not going to make anyone think less of him who already does just because he's a Democrat.I am usually sarcastic in my posts here, especially the past few weeks but its been fun to watch everyone yell at their screens.

And refreshing that you think hes on of us? You can hear him practically tripping over himself backpedaling after the words left his mouth. I would have had more respect for the comment if he hadnt went immediately to apologize, everyone makes slow jokes and we rarely get in trouble for it, usually because their tongues are too large to lodge a complaint.

I dont care about what party hes in, its been obvious to me for the past 10 years that party doesnt matter when you are president, they pretty much are controlled by a select few in the upper echelon since they have all the money.

But Obama is taking hits because of his comment. Why do we act like we live in a vacuum where no one criticizes or attacks Obama? I don't understand it.Hits? Please, if that were bush or any other republican in washington they would be every news stations lead story, I have heard it mentioned once today and that was along with his apology with the announcer adding sincere in the broadcast. Yeah he has taken a couple hits but dont even think it would have been 100 times worse if it was bush or mccain.

I thought he was great- Barrack Obama, the hippest president we've ever had.No, that honor goes to Teddy Roosevelt.

[underdog]

I think we're all missing the most important thing; where can we get those Palin Is A Cunt t-shirts?

But alas I am throwing stones into glass houses.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I think we're all missing the most important thing; where can we get those Palin Is A Cunt t-shirts?

But alas I am throwing stones into glass houses.

That glass house saying annoys me almost as much as my saying KoolAid annoys you.

[underdog]

That glass house saying annoys me almost as much as my saying KoolAid annoys you.

Now I have to decide if I like annoying you more than I hate you annoying me.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Now I have to decide if I like annoying you more than I hate you annoying me.

I wish we'd fuck and get this over with already.

[angrymissy]

I think we're all missing the most important thing; where can we get those Palin Is A Cunt t-shirts?

But alas I am throwing stones into glass houses.

The same place you get the Obama monkey ones

http://images.quickblogcast.com/7/3/7/1/2/130213-121737/Monkey.bmp

[sailor]

Palin fits many of the definitions of "vulgar" quite perfectly. It doesn't only apply to describing someone cursing like a sailor.

enough of the personal attacks.

[TheMojoPin]

There can never be enough personal atacks on sailor.

NEVER.

[grlNIN]

i hope they show the trailer for his new summer popcorn movie!



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[TheMojoPin]

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Damn you, Paul Rudd.

[HBox]

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I'm glad Gollum found some work.

[foodcourtdruide]

Hits? Please, if that were bush or any other republican in washington they would be every news stations lead story, I have heard it mentioned once today and that was along with his apology with the announcer adding sincere in the broadcast. Yeah he has taken a couple hits but dont even think it would have been 100 times worse if it was bush or mccain.



I've seen and heard it mentioned on every news medium I've digested today. It was on the both 6 o'clock news broadcasts I watched, in the radio show I was listening to this morning and the one I listened to in the afternoon.

This is why people think you are a Hannity or Limbaugh drone. The whole "CONSERVATIVES ARE TREATED WORSE THAN LIBERALS BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS AGAINST US!" line is a typical right wing talking point that has no basis in reality. Obama is humiliated by this and the appropriate channels are taking him to task over it. The same exact thing would have happened if it was Bush.

[topless_mike]

In all honesty, go for it.


wmt on the phone now with what show... quite interesting.

[SP1!]

I've seen and heard it mentioned on every news medium I've digested today. It was on the both 6 o'clock news broadcasts I watched, in the radio show I was listening to this morning and the one I listened to in the afternoon.

This is why people think you are a Hannity or Limbaugh drone. The whole "CONSERVATIVES ARE TREATED WORSE THAN LIBERALS BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS AGAINST US!" line is a typical right wing talking point that has no basis in reality. Obama is humiliated by this and the appropriate channels are taking him to task over it. The same exact thing would have happened if it was Bush.
You completely missed my point, I never said it wasnt mentioned, what I said was that if it was bush it would be the lead on every channel at the top of every hour: RetardGate '09!!!! Yes hes doing damage control but they are not salivating over this and riding it into the ground like they would with a republican.

That is as far as I go in the conservative/liberal debate, it doesnt take a limbaugh or hannity drone to see the parties arent treated the same in the media but I dont think the media is biased, they go for what sells, CNN, FOX, MSNBC and the rest all go for what gets them ratings. Its not necessarily a bias but people love to hate rich people and for some reason people all like to think republicans are just rich people who stole all the money to get rich. That being said, I haaaaaaaaate limbaugh and think hes fucking up politics by spreading false information to his moron dittoheads, its another thing that friends of mine on the right says makes me a lib.

The perceived bias is about what sells, not just liberalism, its easy for the majority to hate the rich and they sell it, just like when a dem gets in trouble they paint him as privileged, they ruined condit and it looks like he was innocent. Again just because I perceive a bias you shouldnt automatically assume its about ideology.

[conman823]

Meh, I could care less about the "comment".

I'm more concerned with his fan tour. WTF the worlds falling apart, get back to your desk and work! He's out there like he's got a fucking movie coming out next week. It's a little disturbing to me.

[albo60s]

Being the president is a lot like being an actor.
He's on the show promoting himself, and his policies.
I think doing the dance is just as important as going to Congress, or lighting a Christmas tree, or any of the dumb shit the President has to do.

It sucks that that's the way it is, but it is.


Its never been necessary for any other president to go on an entertainment program like Obama did this week. Why is it now necessary for Obama? Can't he get his programs across by means that have been perfectly adequate for every POTUS that came before him????

[albo60s]

Ouch.

That Special Olympics line is going to bite him in the ass.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad move.


serves him right leaving the teleprompter home.

[albo60s]

Meh, I could care less about the "comment".

I'm more concerned with his fan tour. WTF the worlds falling apart, get back to your desk and work! He's out there like he's got a fucking movie coming out next week. It's a little disturbing to me.

If he avoids making decisions he avoids failure. So look for more vacations & frivilous stuff in the future from Chocolate Jesus.

[TheMojoPin]

Its never been necessary for any other president to go on an entertainment program like Obama did this week. Why is it now necessary for Obama? Can't he get his programs across by means that have been perfectly adequate for every POTUS that came before him????

Nobody said it was necessary. It's a way for him to explain some of things being done to an audience that often doesn't tune in at all to press conferences and the like. It's an attempt to capitalize on an aspect of the medium that hasn't been used before to reach more people, similar to how the administration is using the internet to an unprecedented extent.

Though having read your next two posts, I regret wasting the time giving you a serious answer.

[TheMojoPin]

You completely missed my point, I never said it wasnt mentioned, what I said was that if it was bush it would be the lead on every channel at the top of every hour: RetardGate '09!!!! Yes hes doing damage control but they are not salivating over this and riding it into the ground like they would with a republican.

Bush had plenty of speaking gaffes. It shouldn't be a problem at all for you to find examples of such a overwhelming and hysterical media deluge in regards to Bush.

Obama's comments started making the made rounds before the interview aired and was a major story last night and today. One main difference you'll see in this compared to Bush's snafus is that Obama has already addressed it and apologized. That's the easiest way for any politician to defuse a comment that's questionable but ultimately little more than a punchline. Bush and co. rarely used this tactic and always plowed forward as if nothing happened, or if he did refer to them it would be with another awful joke or backhanded comment that fell flat. A lot of this comes down to the ability of the person making the mistakes being able to handle them. There's simply not much to this story since he's already apologized.