The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore

[Mr.Misery]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

[Marc with a c]

i disagree

[PapaBear]

i disagree
I agree with Marc. And that NEVER happens.

[weekapaugjz]

your opinion stinks.

[Ron Marie Douglas]

You are wrong. Your opinion is wrong. You may need a hearing test.

[Marc with a c]

I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps.

i like that line.

[jennysmurf]

#1fanofesd, is that you?

[WampusCrandle]

as a Mod-to-be, let me give you a special file cabinet to put this thread in:

http://www.console-central.com/images/stories/misc/trash-can.jpg

and put the rest of your shit reasons for signing up and not posting after this in there too. :happy:

[PapaBear]

I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside.

Yeah. Because that never happened on WJFK or WNEW.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end?

Yeah. Because they never had commercials on WJFK or WNEW.

[spoon]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

I'm gonna go ahead and agree on the pal talk piont and certain guests as well. I'm sure everyone will rip this guy down bc he states an unpopular oppinion, but he's entitled to it. And to a certain extent, I can't fault him or disagree. Let the pal talk crowd and some of these other fucks go out and get a God Damn job. I know the economy is bad but WTF!?!

[IrishAlkey]

Let the pal talk crowd and some of these other fucks go out and get a God Damn job. I know the economy is bad but WTF!?!

=(

[spoon]

=(

It looks good on you though.

http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_089.jpg

[IrishAlkey]

It looks good on you though.

http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_089.jpg

So does your lying face.

[spoon]

So does your lying face.

Why don't you go back to vegas texas canada and dream of my sexy face and listen to the Fandick show.

[IrishAlkey]

I love fans of dicks.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

i like that line.

It's the most factual thing ever written since The Bible.

[A buck 380]

RE: inside humor:
Obviously I am not a regular poster, but I have listened since they have come to XM. For me, and I'd guess most truly interested in talk/comedy radio, the inside jokes made more more interested. I felt myself at first wondering, but also hungering to "get in on it". To me that was part of the charm.

I don't think this show as-is is meant for the masses, but for anyone who listens, its gold each and every day.

[jauble]

By far this is fezfez's worst board character.

[Devo37]

1.) ron and fez are both great!

2.) what ever happened to the idea of post-count limits on starting new threads??

3.) Mr.Misery can sip on a big, fat, D!!!

[NewYorkDragons80]

Let me be the first to welcome Gvac's newest username.

[Mafialife Chris]

I agree with Marc. And that NEVER happens.

I agree with Papabear!

[blowtorch]

[QUOTE=Mr.Misery;2189550]I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps.
QUOTE]

How I love to hear Crazed is on the phone or even better in studio. When Crazed and Spandy came in, I couldn't stop laughing, great radio...in my humble opinion. I agree with Fez's mental health, but I think he gets a theraputic release when he talks about his problems on air. Ron has mentioned it before, about how he gets SO into the conversation when the topic is on his problems. Maybe its good for him to get his thoughts out to the people that he knows love him. But what do I know, I scoop ice cream for a living. But come on dude, you're telling me a Crazed rap isn't funny. ROCK&ROLL

[ruggedo]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

Everyone has a right to their own opinion, I just rarely see one that is so wrong. Not only does this person program radio shows he seems to be some kind of psychiatrist too. I would never argue how he feels,but making sweeping generalizations for everyone other listener might be a tad overboard.
I would never listen to a show that made me sad on a daily basis and just cant understand anyone who would.
The show is funny. I laugh every day.

[joethebartender]

i disagree

I concur.

[sailor]

I agree with Marc. And that NEVER happens.

what papabear said.

[instrument]

I know some people on this board make an effort to not be negative but seriously, you all know
that everything he said about fez is true.

I really hope that the remarks ron makes to fez on air aren't the only times that ron addresses the issue, because by the tone of them it seems to be.

[~Katja~]

you couldn't have put this post into the other thread that addresses Fez's "issues" and whether he should be on the show anymore? Why bother starting a new thread?

[Ritalin]

I'd like to dip a cautious toe in the water here.

I disagree with the thread title. I listen to every show via Audible and laugh every show. Thursday Ron told Fez that he was touched by a kid toucher with bad taste in children and I laughed so unexpectedly hard that I got looks in the grocery store.

But this thing with Fez IS dragging out. More and more it feels like a bit to me, because it's the same thing over and over. Plus, this thing with the "secret" is strange. How could he have a problem coming out when he used to shout loudly on JFK "we're here, we're queer, we will not disappear"? Fredrick the hair guy would come in to do hair and it would sound like a bathhouse in that studio.

As for his personal problems? I mean, I don't know Fez personally but he seems like a great person and I wouldn't want him to be going through what he says he is on air, but if he is it's gotten to the point where you just want to grab him by the shirt front, shake him around and scream "get over yourself".

So I'm either "don't get the bit" guy or I'm a little tired of listening to Fez tap the same vein on air, over and over again. It doesn't matter in the end, because I'll still be listening. I'll bump along down the road with them as long as they keep driving, and maybe all of this is actually just a little brilliant. They just got some guy to sit down at his kitchen table and spend 10 minutes thinking about their show.

Now I'll slink back to the sidelines and post the odd one liner again.

[ttom925]

I'm an XM listener and have no past to compare to , but I love the show .
I have seen a change in Fez , but I still like the fella . Ron could carry the show and sometimes does , doesn't bother me .
Ron loooooves the live reads so I don't think they are going anywhere .(frunkiss)
Hang in there .

[nixonfingers]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

I just want to say that Mr Misery has some valid points and just because you don't agree with him, it doesn't reduce their value. The show has many issues. Fez being just one of them. Nobody wants people just kissing their ass all the time, I think Ron makes that perfectly plain on the show.

[drusilla]

2.) what ever happened to the idea of post-count limits on starting new threads??





i think the rule is that one of these threads has to be started every day.

[KEITHJAY]

Should people be allowed to sign up with a false persona just to bash the show, other sites limit these spammers by having limits and time spent before starting threads I think some people should try and sit in front of a live mic and see how cool they are before they open their judgemental mouths

[MBruce]

The show has changed dramatically over the years, with Ron being the only rock, the vibe has switched up a few times. I still love it. It's still the best thing on radio...and it's usually a four belly-laugh minimum. I'll stick around and witness the next evolution, should be a ride.

Here's to our Fez marie defeating all barriers! We love you man.

..and hi to everyone, I'm new here :)

[wireman]

It's true that Fez has his problems, and they're getting tiresome. But Ron has never been funnier.

[Sinestro]

I kinda see Mr. Misery's point. Not exactly 100%, but some percentage of it.

[Hosp]

Mr.Misery
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4


I think this is just you lashing out at Fez for his deep hatred of his time in Northern Virginia.

[ChrisBrown]

I think we need to get some perspective here. This is just a radio show. For the majority of us, Fez, ESD, and Ron are strangers. Sometimes I tune in and find it boring, other times it is very funny. No big deal. Tune in to the hockey channel or go out for a walk or do some work when the show doesn't suit you. I don't get how emotionally people slam on or defend the show.

[sailor]

I don't get how emotionally people slam on...the show.

like it's their woman or something.

[Dude!]

i love the show
but you have to admit
it is not what it was

when you listen to some of the old shows
the difference is immediately apparent
and the change has not been for the better

i think the first step
and i mean this quite seriously
is for fez to become an "actor"

if he can't feel the funny
he has to at least pretend that he does

fez should listen to all the old shows
as if he were an actor studying for a role
and then become the actor playing old fez

if you don't feel it, then act it
that's what lots of us do in real life

[Gvac]

Should people be allowed to sign up with a false persona just to bash the show, other sites limit these spammers by having limits and time spent before starting threads I think some people should try and sit in front of a live mic and see how cool they are before they open their judgemental mouths

We do have a time limit before a member can start a thread. I believe it's thirty days but I could be wrong. Mr. Misery has been a member for nearly a year, despite his low post count.

As far as the "you try to do it before you judge" part, does that mean none of us should ever critique a professional athlete, a band, an actor, etc. because we've never done that?

[instrument]

It's funny how much fez and ron would tease billy about all his pills and now look at poor fez.

Ron says stuff to fez and you can tell by fez's reply that he just doesn't get it.

[DiabloSammich]

what papabear said.


I second sailor's opinion.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Well nothing can stay the same forever. For it's changes and such the show will either attract or lose people. It's basic fact. Every listener has to decide what's good for them, and act accordingly.

Hell I'm on Paltalk and I get tired of both shows mentioning it as much as they do. As for individuals in the sphere of the show it's fairly obvious when done right it's a great way to keep things moving on a show. But it can get old sometimes and when you feel like that you have to again, act accordingly. Take a break, or change the channel from time to time.

You may even have to do like I do at times with both shows and just not listen for a week or two. There has to be some disconnect or you'll go nuts concentrating on it. It's like being with someone daily and constantly engaging them in their every move. You will get frustrated. The smallest things that annoy become amplified.

I've almost thrown my xm out of a window on several occasions at the 25th Sheepy or Crazed or HTG mention. Not because of them personally but that particular day I just wanted to hear about other stuff. Anyway there's stuff I disagree with and agree with here, but it doesn't matter. Everyone has their own decisions to make and overall there's a million more things I love about the show than dislike.

[BlackSpider]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...





How does Gvac keep coming up with these characters...???

[mikeyboy]

I just want to say that Mr Misery has some valid points and just because you don't agree with him, it doesn't reduce their value. The show has many issues. Fez being just one of them. Nobody wants people just kissing their ass all the time, I think Ron makes that perfectly plain on the show.

I don't think anyone said this guy's opinion is invalid. People just made it clear that they disagreed with it, and that's how it should be.

[sailor]

I don't think anyone said this guy's opinion is invalid. People just made it clear that they disagreed with it, and that's how it should be.

we're only allowed to disagree with him? maybe gvac was right.

[mikeyboy]

we're only allowed to disagree with him? maybe gvac was right.

You're not very good at the reading.

[sailor]

You're not very good at the reading.

you're not very good at the funny.

[mikeyboy]

Gvac is right about you.

[denko]

my only complaint is the lack of produced bits, like ron said, nobody does them anymore. i liked some of those, gumshoe gang, guy guyerson, even davey red was funny, fezitorials, catty moments shit like that. i still think its funny though, the day ron and fez are no longer funny is the day i finally take my XM and flush it down the tiolet.

[disneyspy]

i agree with diablosammich

[hammersavage]

If Ron ever said something like 'gee that Babygirl sure is showing it off today' I would never listen.

[drjoek]

As soon as WampusCrandle tells me my opinion I will post it. I don't want my "internet to be out for 26 1/2 hours" again

[BlackSpider]

If Ron ever said something like 'gee that Babygirl sure is showing it off today' I would never listen.

I believe Dave said something like that when he was under hypnosis (as Anthony)...

[SinA]

well... I also want Fez to be in a happier mental state. i'm going through some weird shit right now, so i can relate to the anxiety he's having. maybe the show has changed because Fez is off, but Ron has really stepped up as an entertainer and as a friend. fez will figure it out in time, and i'll still be listening

[Fatwreck86]

I completely disagree, I still laugh my ass off 5 days a week. The other two I'm a large piece of shit.

[razorboy]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/sfhrsh.jpg

[mikeyboy]

But this thing with Fez IS dragging out. More and more it feels like a bit to me, because it's the same thing over and over.

I kind of disagree with this. Fez still isn't at full strength, but they don't dwell on his problems as much as they used to. If they do, it's more than likely on the post-show rather than the regular show. The crying also doesn't happen nearly as much as it did on air at one point. If Fez continues to improve we'll see it less and less.

[WampusCrandle]

The show has many issues. Fez being just one of them. Nobody wants people just kissing their ass all the time, I think Ron makes that perfectly plain on the show.

yeah, the show has some issues, which produces great comedy and commentary - that is why i listen. i really dont mind that people post that they dont like some parts of the show, but when people only harp on it, its tiresome. I also dont want people to constantly praise the show if there is a problem or too, because that would make no sense. I just some people to realize that there should be some constructive criticism, i guess is what i'm going for.

Should people be allowed to sign up with a false persona just to bash the show, other sites limit these spammers by having limits and time spent before starting threads I think some people should try and sit in front of a live mic and see how cool they are before they open their judgemental mouths

i feel until people get at least 100 posts, then they should be able to start threads. of course, im in the 1000s and i start the worst threads ever.

The show has changed dramatically over the years, with Ron being the only rock, the vibe has switched up a few times. I still love it. It's still the best thing on radio...and it's usually a four belly-laugh minimum. I'll stick around and witness the next evolution, should be a ride.

Here's to our Fez marie defeating all barriers! We love you man.

..and hi to everyone, I'm new here :)

.... i like you - NOT BANNED

i love the show
but you have to admit
it is not what it was

when you listen to some of the old shows
the difference is immediately apparent
and the change has not been for the better

i think the first step
and i mean this quite seriously
is for fez to become an "actor"

if he can't feel the funny
he has to at least pretend that he does

fez should listen to all the old shows
as if he were an actor studying for a role
and then become the actor playing old fez

if you don't feel it, then act it
that's what lots of us do in real life

poems are gay

my only complaint is the lack of produced bits, like ron said, nobody does them anymore. i liked some of those, gumshoe gang, guy guyerson, even davey red was funny, fezitorials, catty moments shit like that. i still think its funny though, the day ron and fez are no longer funny is the day i finally take my XM and flush it down the tiolet.

i would like to see some of those produced bits come back. Fez should start doing his Fezatorials again. ESD's guy guyerson, board gossip, the hill billy shit he did. i loved 'em all! LET IT BE KNOWN!

As soon as WampusCrandle tells me my opinion I will post it. I don't want my "internet to be out for 26 1/2 hours" again

drjoek - SPEAK YOUR OPINION! :king:

I completely disagree, I still laugh my ass off 5 days a week.

..... i like the way you think.

[The Jays]

I disagree with my opinion.

[Gvac]

Eggs are delicious.

[angrymissy]

Eggs are delicious.

I concur.

[5maseratis]

Best show on radio EVER! Go listen to DJ's faking it everyday on FM if you don't like real life on the radio!

[A.J.]

Mr.Misery


Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4

Now Fez will NEVER reconsider being buried in Northern Virginia.

[WampusCrandle]

Now Fez will NEVER reconsider being buried in Northern Virginia.

now that is the saddest thing i have ever heard :down:

[ChrisTheCop]

Best show on radio EVER! Go listen to DJ's faking it everyday on FM if you don't like real life on the radio!

You can also listen to the show that's on before Ron and Fez.

Although I of course disagree with the sum of Mr Misery's post, I do congratulate him for presenting an educated, well thought out essay, and for having the balls to express his opinion.

Many people have made similar points in the past, and they came off as uneducated rubes. Mr Misery is obviously an educated man with an opinion, and I for one always welcome that here at RonFez.net.

[Ricky24]

This all could be in a thread entitled OPIE AND ANTHONY

[WampusCrandle]

This all could be in a thread entitled OPIE AND ANTHONY

are you saying, that perhaps, the Opie and Anthony show ain't funny no mo'?

[KEITHJAY]

This all could be in a thread entitled OPIE AND ANTHONY

how dare you sir we shall meet on the field of Onion:laugh:

[Contra]

One guy gets brave and ALL the lurkers come out of the woodwook.

[paracetamol flanders]

The Ron & Fez Show has never been funny. I only listen because I am doing my thesis on regional trucker pronunciations of the N-word.

[rick9669]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

you should stop listing the show is be far still the BEST thing on air today...as far as the live reads and commericals sirius is run by mel carminson (or whatever) he is the reason regular radio is unlistenable today....:unsure:

[Gvac]

It's still funny, but a bit too faggy.

Or is that one faggy?

[Ricky24]

are you saying, that perhaps, the Opie and Anthony show ain't funny no mo'?

Not particularly. Most people become what they hate after a while. it's interesting to watch it happen. SHOCK JOKS! I love ron and fez AND o and A. Just two very different group of people.

[nixonfingers]

You know what really isn't funny anymore? AIDS. I liked the first eight or nine seasons, but it has just gone on too long. :laugh:

[nixonfingers]

The Ron & Fez Show has never been funny. I only listen because I am doing my thesis on regional trucker pronunciations of the N-word.

:lol:

[spoon]

I don't think anyone said this guy's opinion is invalid. People just made it clear that they disagreed with it, and that's how it should be.

Come on Mikey, tons keep bringing up that the guy shouldn't even be able to start a thread. That surely fits the mold and there are plenty of posts that make points like it.

[mikeyboy]

Come on Mikey, tons keep bringing up that the guy shouldn't even be able to start a thread. That surely fits the mold and there are plenty of posts that make points like it.

Yeah, that happens sometimes, but it has been slowly getting better. I've tried to make it clear that people need to show respect to people whose opinions they disagree with, and at least some people seem to get it. The fact that this guy isn't being outright personally attacked is a small victory.
For the record, the requirement that you have 10 posts or be registered for 30 days before starting a new thread is an attampt to curb spam threads rather than a measure to keep new people from starting threads.

[spoon]

Yeah, that happens sometimes, but it has been slowly getting better. I've tried to make it clear that people need to show respect to people whose opinions they disagree with, and at least some people seem to get it. The fact that this guy isn't being outright personally attacked is a small victory.
For the record, the requirement that you have 10 posts or be registered for 30 days before starting a new thread is an attampt to curb spam threads rather than a measure to keep new people from starting threads.

Can we institute the "Hottub Rule" which basically bans him from posting awful jokes and or any threads outside of the experience forum?

[Gvac]

Hey spoon...you should see the beating this guy took. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78967)

[Dell]

i love the show
but you have to admit
it is not what it was

when you listen to some of the old shows
the difference is immediately apparent
and the change has not been for the better

i think the first step
and i mean this quite seriously
is for fez to become an "actor"

if he can't feel the funny
he has to at least pretend that he does

fez should listen to all the old shows
as if he were an actor studying for a role
and then become the actor playing old fez

if you don't feel it, then act it
that's what lots of us do in real life

was this supposed to rhyme?

[~Katja~]

Come on Mikey, tons keep bringing up that the guy shouldn't even be able to start a thread. That surely fits the mold and there are plenty of posts that make points like it.

I think the guy made a few points that were just very recently discussed in other threads where he did not join the discussion... so him being a member of the board for a year and not really posting and then "joining in" by starting a thread with opinions that could very well have fit in other existing threads just doesn't feel right for most.
Not saying he can't or shouldn't state his opinion though... but this way it kinda feels like the creepy neighbor that lurked outside your bushes for a year and then walks in to announce that you are not doing things right by his standards anymore...

[Dell]

If Ron ever said something like 'gee that Babygirl sure is showing it off today' I would never listen.

I think that was ESD's line when impersonating Anthony while hypnotized... I've never heard Ron say something like that.

[BlackSpider]

I think that was ESD's line when impersonating Anthony while hypnotized... I've never heard Ron say something like that.


Too late...


I believe Dave said something like that when he was under hypnosis (as Anthony)...

[mikeyboy]

I think the guy made a few points that were just very recently discussed in other threads where he did not join the discussion... so him being a member of the board for a year and not really posting and then "joining in" by starting a thread with opinions that could very well have fit in other existing threads just doesn't feel right for most.
Not saying he can't or shouldn't state his opinion though... but this way it kinda feels like the creepy neighbor that lurked outside your bushes for a year and then walks in to announce that you are not doing things right by his standards anymore...

Eh. It never really bothers me that much. It's kind of human nature -- some people are just more motivated to complain about something than to praise it, and as a result, the need to complain about the show becomes the impetus for some people to join the board.

[spoon]

I think the guy made a few points that were just very recently discussed in other threads where he did not join the discussion... so him being a member of the board for a year and not really posting and then "joining in" by starting a thread with opinions that could very well have fit in other existing threads just doesn't feel right for most.
Not saying he can't or shouldn't state his opinion though... but this way it kinda feels like the creepy neighbor that lurked outside your bushes for a year and then walks in to announce that you are not doing things right by his standards anymore...

And the other side of this coin is most don't post here all day and or don't have the time/memory to draw from of the past "similar" threads. To me, it's just another inside excuse to flame someone who doesn't join the cotton candy brigade. Sorry Kat, but even I didn't see the other thread and I'm here pretty often. And it's a board FILLED with mods and admin, if it's a repeat (and really who gives a fuck), they can easily move it.

[~Katja~]

Eh. It never really bothers me that much. It's kind of human nature -- some people are just more motivated to complain about something than to praise it, and as a result, the need to complain about the show becomes the impetus for some people to join the board.

true, but at the same time they have to expect that when they post this complaint on a fan board they might find only a few people that agree but the majority that will disagree with the opinion.
I think in this thread it has at least stayed civil, which is a good thing.

[WampusCrandle]

I think the guy made a few points that were just very recently discussed in other threads where he did not join the discussion... so him being a member of the board for a year and not really posting and then "joining in" by starting a thread with opinions that could very well have fit in other existing threads just doesn't feel right for most.
Not saying he can't or shouldn't state his opinion though... but this way it kinda feels like the creepy neighbor that lurked outside your bushes for a year and then walks in to announce that you are not doing things right by his standards anymore...

it just feels like a constant over kill of the same subject time and time again.

[spoon]

Eh. It never really bothers me that much. It's kind of human nature -- some people are just more motivated to complain about something than to praise it, and as a result, the need to complain about the show becomes the impetus for some people to join the board.

Still Mikey, it's a board about the show, not just licking the sacks of everyone on it. People on the board here are often posting based on ulterior motives such as becoming an "in crowd" fan or getting mentions on the show. To me, that's the worst fucking poster/member this board has to offer. Stating an opinion you ACTUALLY believe in and is nothing short of unpopular and respect is due whether you agree or not (especially when it's done with respect).

[mikeyboy]

it just feels like a constant over kill of the same subject time and time again.

To be fair, I don't think it's that constant. There has been a big wave of it lately on the backs of 4 or 5 people who haven't been happy with the show. Those threads get a big reaction, and they've been so close together, I think it makes it seems worse than it is.

[spoon]

it just feels like a constant over kill of the same subject time and time again.

I agree, too bad the repitition is on the other side of the coin Wamp. Think about it.

[~Katja~]

And the other side of this coin is most don't post here all day and or don't have the time/memory to draw from of the past "similar" threads. To me, it's just another inside excuse to flame someone who doesn't join the cotton candy brigade. Sorry Kat, but even I didn't see the other thread and I'm here pretty often. And it's a board FILLED with mods and admin, if it's a repeat (and really who gives a fuck), they can easily move it.

it wasn't just the thread gvac linked, but also the one about paltalk. They were both pretty much atop the Everything Ron & Fez forum.
If I don't come here often and have something to say about the show I would check there first what's currently going on... that's just me though... I did not say that everybody has to do that or is wrong for not doing it.
I think it's pretty safe to say that every public message board reacts certain ways to new threads started by "regulars" versus "strangers", and when it's a fan board it's just human nature that most would jump to protect whoever the board is for or in honor of.

That being said, the other thread the guy took a beating from personally attacking people who disagreed with his opinion and continuing to do so for pages even when told to knock it off repeatedly.

[mikeyboy]

Still Mikey, it's a board about the show, not just licking the sacks of everyone on it. People on the board here are often posting based on ulterior motives such as becoming an "in crowd" fan or getting mentions on the show. To me, that's the worst fucking poster/member this board has to offer. Stating an opinion you ACTUALLY believe in and is nothing short of unpopular and respect is due whether you agree or not (especially when it's done with respect).

You're right, and that's why I've tried to maintain civility on both sides of the debate. The key to stating an unpopular belief is respect. If you come in with an unpopular belief and a chip on your shoulder, it's going to be ugly.

On a related point, i do think it is possible to be on this board and have a positive opinion on the show without the ulterior of "sack licking". It's a fansite, so by and large people on this board are going to be fans. Granted, no one is going to like everything on the show, and people who are fans should be free to discuss the things they don't like.

[WampusCrandle]

I agree, too bad the repitition is on the other side of the coin Wamp. Think about it.

i would, but i cant, but maybe you haven't heard - Gvac is training me to be a Mod. yeah, its kinda a big deal, so, yeah.

and you're right

[Hepcat22]

The Ron & Fez show is funnier than ever.

[drjoek]

Can't a mod merge them all into a Penultimate Show Haters Thread?

[Dell]

Can't a mod merge them all into a Penultimate Show Haters Thread?

I am always impressed when penultimate can be worked into a sentence... not to mention how you boss them mods around... drjoek = :wub:

[drjoek]

I am always impressed when penultimate can be worked into a sentence... not to mention how you boss them mods around... drjoek = :wub:



You're continued support is greatly appreciated. You keep me doing the things I do.

[spoon]

I am always impressed when penultimate can be worked into a sentence... not to mention how you boss them mods around... drjoek = :wub:

That makes one of us. Also, why merge totally different discussions, especially since some aren't really hating but expressing opinions. There is a difference.

[WampusCrandle]

I am always impressed when penultimate can be worked into a sentence... not to mention how you boss them mods around... WampusCrandle = :wub:

it is a sexy word; thanks for your love

[spoon]

You're continued support is greatly appreciated. You keep me doing the things I do.

So we should hate/ban him too?

Get on it Wampyboy!

[MBruce]

"Good evening and welcome to the pit of penultimate darkness... Apparently, someone's opened a pit slightly darker than this one." lol :p

[drjoek]

That makes one of us. Also, why merge totally different discussions, especially since some aren't really hating but expressing opinions. There is a difference.



The post was a comedic homage to the Penultimate Dave Haters thread. Mr loveable

[WampusCrandle]

So we should hate/ban him too?

Get on it Wampyboy!

apparently, being banned and infractions dont work - im just gonna have to fuck his nose.

[drjoek]

apparently, being banned and infractions dont work - im just gonna have to fuck his nose.



Netipot dick.

[mikeyboy]

apparently, being banned and infractions dont work - im just gonna have to fuck his nose.

I question your methods, but you do seem to get the job done.

[spoon]

The post was a comedic homage to the Penultimate Dave Haters thread. Mr loveable

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

:wallbash:

[drjoke]

I question your methods, but you do seem to get the job done.

Crandle had to get his big brother back to protect him AGAIN!

[WampusCrandle]

I question your methods, but you do seem to get the job done.

i take what i see on this board, and i like to put my own little spin on it. :happy:

[WampusCrandle]

Crandle had to get his big brother back to protect him AGAIN!

oh no, not this jokester again. WE SEE THINGS A BIT DIFFERENTLY!

[drjoke]

oh no, not this jokester again. WE SEE THINGS A BIT DIFFERENTLY!

FagusFagdle

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:devil2:

[WampusCrandle]

FagusFagdle

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FagusFagdle

:devil2:

boy, buddy, you are cruisin' for a bruisin'!

[drjoek]

boy, buddy, you are cruisin' for a bruisin'!

That new guy sure things hes tough.

[WampusCrandle]

That new guy sure things hes tough.

that new guy is an asshat! he really should be banned!

[CuntagiousChris]

Come on are you serious this is the best show in the radio business i love the dynamics and the inside humor Ron and Fez are the fucking shit and dont forget that you hateful pricks (i know kissing ass but i love these fucking guys)

[spoon]

Come on are you serious this is the best show in the radio business i love the dynamics and the inside humor Ron and Fez are the fucking shit and dont forget that you hateful pricks (i know kissing ass but i love these fucking guys)

You're from Texas, I'm pretty sure even Aggie won't read this.

[CuntagiousChris]

You're from Texas, I'm pretty sure even Aggie won't read this.

good one

[spoon]

good one

Yep, you one upped me huh. Original too.

[mikeyboy]

That's a bunch of sparkling bon mots between the two of you. Oscar Wilde would be jealous.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That's a bunch of sparkling bon mots between the two of you. Oscar Wilde would be jealous.

piece of advice: remember your audience.

[CuntagiousChris]

Yeah its something Ron likes to say from time to time when Dave says something fucking stupid but i forget since i dont live in NY i should know my place on this message board. Eat a Dick!

[Phild]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

You are kidding Right? Friday's show was GOLD - Life is full of ups and downs and this show is just about life so quit overthinking it Sigmund Freud or turn off your radio.

But if I were you I would take some advice form Van Morrison -
Turn up your radio and let me hear the song
Switch on your electric light
Then we can get down to what is really wrong

Turn it up, turn it up, little bit higher radio
Turn it up, turn it up, so you know, radio
La, la, la, la... :smoke:

[mikeyboy]

piece of advice: remember your audience.

Fine.




Wow, you two guys could be writers for "Two and a Half Men".

[CuntagiousChris]

Fine.




Wow, you two guys could be writers for "Two and a Half Men".

Whats that we just barely got electricity around these parts and i think those new fancy moving picture gadgets are kinda pricey

[West.Coast.Skippy]

i feel like i've written a bunch of critiquing posts lately so i'll be very brief. i agree with most of your points, misery, except for your conclusion. i find the show very funny most of the time. of course that is a very personal opinion. the only part of the show that i find totally tacky is the live reads. yeah i laugh during them... sometimes... but i really object on principal. there are already commercials on the talk channels [ by-and-large for the same cheesy, down market crap on my local am station ] and eating up time for cheater or backup websites [ ever wonder why certain products are so prevalent on radio across all formats; r & f to rush? the answer isn't flattering ].

by the way, penultimate means second best, second to last, second from top, etc.

[mikeyboy]

by the way, penultimate means second best, second to last, second from top, etc.[/COLOR]

Yeah, we know. It's kind of a running joke on the board. We merged up all the Dave hater threads into the "penultimate" one because of Dave's habit of mis-using the term.

[spoon]

piece of advice: remember your audience.

Yes, sooooo high brow.

[~Katja~]

Yeah, we know. It's kind of a running joke on the board. We merged up all the Dave hater threads into the "penultimate" one because of Dave's habit of mis-using the term.

and not to forget the use of it in an entire episode of Gary Unmarried :)

[kingofthething]

dont listen then faggot

[mikeyboy]

dont listen then faggot

ugh.

:wallbash:
:wallbash:
:wallbash:

[drjoek]

[SIZE="1"]by the way, penultimate means second best, second to last, second from top, etc.



To repeat DAVE used the word one time in error and it became part of the haters thread
I am aware of the words meaning Daniel Webster

[spoon]

ugh.

:wallbash:
:wallbash:
:wallbash:



No no, this guy is poetic at best. Hell, wasn't Oscar Wilde a flamer on the side too?! :furious:

See MB, you get what you ask for! :clap:

[disneyspy]

To repeat DAVE used the word one time in error and it became part of the haters thread
I am aware of the words meaning Daniel Webster

are you the devil?

[drjoek]

are you the devil?


You tell me

:devil2:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Fine.




Wow, you two guys could be writers for "Two and a Half Men".

I'll wait for a chick with big tits to run through this thread then.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

To repeat DAVE used the word one time in error and it became part of the haters thread
I am aware of the words meaning Daniel Webster

cool, I didn't know that. like i said, i agree with most of the original posting's points ("excruciatingly inside"). by the way, what words do mean, 'daniel webster?'

[#1FanofESD]

as a Mod-to-be, let me give you a special file cabinet to put this thread in:

http://www.console-central.com/images/stories/misc/trash-can.jpg

and put the rest of your shit reasons for signing up and not posting after this in there too. :happy:

Mod to be?

You did it. You really did it. You are who you always wanted to be.

Congrats.

[Dell]

This has become the penultimate thread hijack... let's talk about drjoek some more... :wink:

[#1FanofESD]

Hey spoon...you should see the beating this guy took. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78967)

Yeah, and I was trying to say I think Fez isn't sounding very healthy mentally and that maybe a change would help the guy out.

That turned into a bunch of greedy people who could care less about Fez's health and who just really like hearing him get punked on a daily basis amuse them for three hours a day coming after me like I took their pudding pops away.

But I was the bad guy? lol.

Half the people on this board who start barking are doing so because they are self involved in their message board persona.

That's weak sauce.

[drjoek]

This has become the penultimate thread hijack... let's talk about drjoek some more... :wink:



drjoek sucks

[MacVittie]

Yeah, and I was trying to say I think Fez isn't sounding very healthy mentally and that maybe a change would help the guy out.

That turned into a bunch of greedy people who could care less about Fez's health and who just really like hearing him get punked on a daily basis amuse them for three hours a day coming after me like I took their pudding pops away.

But I was the bad guy? lol.

Half the people on this board who start barking are doing so because they are self involved in their message board persona.

That's weak sauce.

Wow, you really are doesn't-get-the-bit guy.

[The Brain Smasher]

don't know what show you are listening to, but ron and fez is the best show on XM, so get your hearing checked

[WampusCrandle]

Yeah, and I was trying to say I think Fez isn't sounding very healthy mentally and that maybe a change would help the guy out.

That turned into a bunch of greedy people who could care less about Fez's health and who just really like hearing him get punked on a daily basis amuse them for three hours a day coming after me like I took their pudding pops away.

But I was the bad guy? lol.

Half the people on this board who start barking are doing so because they are self involved in their message board persona.

That's weak sauce.

stop talking about your thread.

Mod to be?

You did it. You really did it. You are who you always wanted to be. You're the best thing that has ever happened in my life!

Congrats.

THANK YOU! :king:

[Jughead]

I go away from a commission job for a while just to hear them.......Never have felt bad about missing a deal for them....Kinda like hearing long lost friends...

[Liverspot]

Probably to late in the thread to add this but I listen and laugh everyday.

I have only listened to XM (caught up some older stuff through archives) and have gotten to like the show more and more as time goes on.

Yes, there is a lot of inside stuff going on, after a couple weeks you get some of it , a few months you get more. I have listened for 4 years, and I certainly don't get all. The show is an evolving thing, it will never be the same show it was in it's older incarnations and hopefully will continue to proceed.

While I do not find every "bit" funny, I find myself laughing at most of the show and love the way the dialog progresses. It has it's ups and downs and not everyone is going to find everything funny for fucks sake. This show draws you in, you really have to listen, thats what makes it so great!

I love the way Ronnie keeps it moving along. And between Fez and Dave and processing callers it is fantastic radio, like nothing else broadcast anywhere.

Wonderful unique and original. I am hooked and I listen to as much as I can as often as I can.

[Jughead]

Probably to late in the thread to add this but I listen and laugh everyday.

I have only listened to XM (caught up some older stuff through archives) and have gotten to like the show more and more as time goes on.

Yes, there is a lot of inside stuff going on, after a couple weeks you get some of it , a few months you get more. I have listened for 4 years, and I certainly don't get all. The show is an evolving thing, it will never be the same show it was in it's older incarnations and hopefully will continue to proceed.

While I do not find every "bit" funny, I find myself laughing at most of the show and love the way the dialog progresses. It has it's ups and downs and not everyone is going to find everything funny for fucks sake. This show draws you in, you really have to listen, thats what makes it so great!

I love the way Ronnie keeps it moving along. And between Fez and Dave and processing callers it is fantastic radio, like nothing else broadcast anywhere.

Wonderful unique and original. I am hooked and I listen to as much as I can as often as I can.

It will get ya sounds like it already has:bye:

[ToiletCrusher]

What the fuck is the Ron and Fez show?

[DiabloSammich]

What the fuck is the Ron and Fez show?



They're those guys that come on before Shock and Jock.

[Dash77]

If you dont like the show turn it off dick, nobody makes you listen, go do something else with your time...

[PapaBear]

Eggs are delicious.
I agree with Gvac. And that almost NEVER happens.

[torker]

I concur with Papa Bear with a side of crisy bacon.

[mrnealcassady]

Unfortunately, I must agree with many of the critical points already raised. I certainly understand the show is dynamic and would be boring/stale if it remained in the style of WNEW or WJFK. Comedy requires new bits, characters, etc.

That said, the phone calls that make fun of Fez are just boring. This is made infinitely worse when Ron throws in mean-spirited digs. Not the usual funny bits... in a sense they don't seem to have any purpose other than making him feel bad. It's one thing when the hosts used to rip into Billy Staples or Eastside Dave... it's quite another when one host rips into another and remain unchallenged.

Even if these are all part of an elaborate routine (one that's hard for me to understand as I don't live in NY, nor do I participate in Paltalk), it seems like the show has taken on a really negative vibe. It has unwittingly blended elements of other shows... and I sometimes just would prefer that Ron lay off Fez than contribute to the heavy-handedness of it all.

[Jeffdc5]

friday's show was funny i actually laughed out loud a few times fez needs htg or melinda to make him come out of his shell and big A killed. the show is only boring when they go inside

[WampusCrandle]

friday's show was funny i actually laughed out loud a few times fez needs htg or melinda to make him come out of his shell and big A killed. the show is only boring when they go inside

i really enjoyed hearing Fez on Friday. He was great!

[tekn8tor]

For all you who want to molly coddle poor Fez you really need to wake up. Ron is the show Fez is just a side kick and a bad one at that. I am sick of the self absorbed nonsense that is Fez. He doesn't listen or take advice,he clams up constantly, and brings up irrelevant topics . Fez thinks his job is pitch man. I would be furious if I were Ron having to carry the dead weight. I have a hard enough time listening lately. Isn't this supposed to be entertaining? When Earl was there the frustration I felt was as a result of his ineptitude. Now my frustration is focused on a closet queen whose narcicistic self involved lack of participation makes me sick for Ron. Great Fez talked some Friday. Well worht the 50/50 split in pay. Sad but I often have to turn the show off. I would have not guessed that would be the case.

[MBruce]

i really enjoyed hearing Fez on Friday. He was great!

What's that, Munn? you're madly in love with me, and you wont rest till I'm all yours?

[Melk]

I think the Paltalk guests can be a little difficult-to-understand, but I can't say I hate it. At the same time, I don't admit to liking it either; it is tolerable, at best.

Fez crying and being psycho-analyzed on-air is okay. I wish they made it a daily bit. "What's on you're mind, Buddy?"

[WampusCrandle]

For all you who want to molly coddle poor Fez you really need to wake up. Ron is the show Fez is just a side kick and a bad one at that. I am sick of the self absorbed nonsense that is Fez. He doesn't listen or take advice,he clams up constantly, and brings up irrelevant topics . Fez thinks his job is pitch man. I would be furious if I were Ron having to carry the dead weight. I have a hard enough time listening lately. Isn't this supposed to be entertaining? When Earl was there the frustration I felt was as a result of his ineptitude. Now my frustration is focused on a closet queen whose narcicistic self involved lack of participation makes me sick for Ron. Great Fez talked some Friday. Well worht the 50/50 split in pay. Sad but I often have to turn the show off. I would have not guessed that would be the case.

fuck, you're boring :dry:

[conman823]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

I would like to go on record as saying I don't agree with this....well I agree with the Paltalk thing, but not much else.

If I got to the point of this dude I would just stop listening all together.

[WampusCrandle]

I would like to go on record as saying I don't agree with this....well I agree with the Paltalk thing, but not much else.

If I got to the point of this dude I would just stop listening all together.

in the record it goes

[conman823]

I'm gonna go ahead and agree on the pal talk piont and certain guests as well. I'm sure everyone will rip this guy down bc he states an unpopular oppinion, but he's entitled to it. And to a certain extent, I can't fault him or disagree. Let the pal talk crowd and some of these other fucks go out and get a God Damn job. I know the economy is bad but WTF!?!

I'm the last guy running around here with a pitcher of Kool-Aid but his original post sounded like a suicide note that should have ended with him shooting his Xm Receiver.

[conman823]

For all you who want to molly coddle poor Fez you really need to wake up. Ron is the show Fez is just a side kick and a bad one at that. I am sick of the self absorbed nonsense that is Fez. He doesn't listen or take advice,he clams up constantly, and brings up irrelevant topics . Fez thinks his job is pitch man. I would be furious if I were Ron having to carry the dead weight. I have a hard enough time listening lately. Isn't this supposed to be entertaining? When Earl was there the frustration I felt was as a result of his ineptitude. Now my frustration is focused on a closet queen whose narcicistic self involved lack of participation makes me sick for Ron. Great Fez talked some Friday. Well worht the 50/50 split in pay. Sad but I often have to turn the show off. I would have not guessed that would be the case.

Ronnie B's first board character!!

Good to see ya Mr. B!

[MBruce]

For all you who want to molly coddle poor Fez you really need to wake up. Ron is the show Fez is just a side kick and a bad one at that. I am sick of the self absorbed nonsense that is Fez. He doesn't listen or take advice,he clams up constantly, and brings up irrelevant topics . Fez thinks his job is pitch man. I would be furious if I were Ron having to carry the dead weight. I have a hard enough time listening lately. Isn't this supposed to be entertaining? When Earl was there the frustration I felt was as a result of his ineptitude. Now my frustration is focused on a closet queen whose narcicistic self involved lack of participation makes me sick for Ron. Great Fez talked some Friday. Well worht the 50/50 split in pay. Sad but I often have to turn the show off. I would have not guessed that would be the case.

Do you really think Fez considers himself a pitch man? He's certainly backed into the shadows a little bit, but he's still a massive part of the shows personality. I wish more people were rooting for him, as frustrating as it may be.

[Melk]

For all you who want to molly coddle poor Fez you really need to wake up. Ron is the show Fez is just a side kick and a bad one at that. I am sick of the self absorbed nonsense that is Fez. He doesn't listen or take advice,he clams up constantly, and brings up irrelevant topics .
First of all, advice is entirely overrated. Seriously, when was the last time you sought advice, recieved it, then never used it? From personal experience, people use the pretense of "asking for advice" as a mechanism of confession and a mechanism for processing one's thoughts.

As an arm-chair, wanna-be shrink, I see Fez saying things on the air because he gave up his religion and is now trying to reexamine his moral compass compared to his friends. Most of Fez's example scenarios are situations where people break the social contract in minor (to most people) ways (adultry, passive-aggression, perceived homophobia, women being overweight, drug abuse, etc.). His experience with his mother seems to have made him picky about pointless foibles, and his constant going home on vaction seems to have put him an imaginary moral high ground... anyway...

[RENFIELD]

THE SHOW HAS IT'S MOMENTS...

I thought it hilarious when Dave had trouble
tearing the RIP Renfield shirt I gave him...(it WAS free)...
during the rock american anthem bit...

by the way t-shirts are available...
if you want one to tear-off ala hulk (hogan) mcdonald...

I charge double !!!

[The Ogre]

fuck, you're boring :dry:

Well look who's fucking talking. We get it. You're the rabid defender of fez who thinks he should be given the baby treatment even though he's almost 50. No one cares that you want to be the show mommy.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Most of Fez's example scenarios are situations where people break the social contract in minor (to most people) ways (adultry, passive-aggression, perceived homophobia, women being overweight, drug abuse, etc.).

hi melk, that's an interesting point. (i'm not sure adultery is a minor offense to most people, but aside from that...) i agree there is a theme to fez's hypotheticals.

most could be bundled under the umbrella question, 'are my beliefs congruent with modern society's, or am i a delusional schizophrenic, completely off base due to my mental illness, upbringing, etc?'

[The Ogre]

I don't mind at all if fez is just trying to get his own beliefes and feelings validated if it starts a discussion up. The only irritating aspect is that we all know what he's doing but he still feels the need to frame it as a general question instead of just coming out and saying what he means.

[WampusCrandle]

Well look who's fucking talking. We get it. You're the rabid defender of fez who thinks he should be given the baby treatment even though he's almost 50. No one cares that you want to be the show mommy.

and no one cares that you constantly bring up how you hate the show. people are tired of hearing it from you and that other ass. everyone else gets it: you need to be heard for whatever reason. it's tiresome at this point. posters like you are one of the reasons that Ron and Fez dont post here. (yeah Fez posts here, after years of this site being up)

[conman823]

First of all, advice is entirely overrated. Seriously, when was the last time you sought advice, recieved it, then never used it? From personal experience, people use the pretense of "asking for advice" as a mechanism of confession and a mechanism for processing one's thoughts.

As an arm-chair, wanna-be shrink, I see Fez saying things on the air because he gave up his religion and is now trying to reexamine his moral compass compared to his friends. Most of Fez's example scenarios are situations where people break the social contract in minor (to most people) ways (adultry, passive-aggression, perceived homophobia, women being overweight, drug abuse, etc.). His experience with his mother seems to have made him picky about pointless foibles, and his constant going home on vaction seems to have put him an imaginary moral high ground... anyway...

You shit on advice then declare yourself an "arm chair, wanna-be shrink", like anyone wants to hear that anymore then advice.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Another negative thread on rf.net ! Shocking :ohmy:
I, for one, choose to continue to suckle at the teet of radio gold that we call The Ron and Fez Show. Besides, I just re-upped my sub for a year.

[Dell]

hi melk, that's an interesting point. (i'm not sure adultery is a minor offense to most people, but aside from that...) i agree there is a theme to fez's hypotheticals.

most could be bundled under the umbrella question, 'are my beliefs congruent with modern society's, or am i a delusional schizophrenic, completely off base due to my mental illness, upbringing, etc?'

Your font color makes it very difficult to read your posts.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

I don't mind at all if fez is just trying to get his own beliefes and feelings validated if it starts a discussion up. The only irritating aspect is that we all know what he's doing but he still feels the need to frame it as a general question instead of just coming out and saying what he means.

yeah, it's like he wants to talk about something else, but the only thing he really can talk about is himself. of course, ron has noted that on air many times.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Your font color makes it very difficult to read your posts.

sorry skcirdell, i will avoid blue in the future. thanks for the feedback.

[The Ogre]

and no one cares that you constantly bring up how you hate the show. people are tired of hearing it from you and that other ass. everyone else gets it: you need to be heard for whatever reason. it's tiresome at this point. posters like you are one of the reasons that Ron and Fez dont post here. (yeah Fez posts here, after years of this site being up)

Yeah. Ron and Fez don't post here. Except Fez. Wait what? You contradict yourself in your own post. Fez didn't post here after the site being up here for years isn't on me dude. I joined in '08.

People aren't tired of salient points regardless of if they are positive or negative. They are tired of folks who just bash and don't post anywhere else on the site at all. That ain't me. They're also tired of rampant ass kissing. That ain't me either.

[WampusCrandle]

Yeah. Ron and Fez don't post here. Except Fez. Wait what? You contradict yourself in your own post. Fez didn't post here after the site being up here for years isn't on me dude. I joined in '08.

People aren't tired of salient points regardless of if they are positive or negative. They are tired of folks who just bash and don't post anywhere else on the site at all. That ain't me. They're also tired of rampant ass kissing. That ain't me either.

im glad that the illiterate are now coming to .net. yeah, you're right, you are neither good or bad - you're nothing. i dont understand why you must continue to ruin other threads (as if this thread were any good)

[ooger]

didn't read the whole thread but, christ quit your bitching.

The show is still funny as hell. I love it when ron makes fun of the live reads.

i hate fans of anything that act all uppity like the content creators owe them something just for being a fan. shut the fuck up.

[MBruce]

didn't read the whole thread but, christ quit your bitching.

The show is still funny as hell. I love it when ron makes fun of the live reads.

i hate fans of anything that act all uppity like the content creators owe them something just for being a fan. shut the fuck up.

This. Hi Olivia! :bye:

[WampusCrandle]

didn't read the whole thread but, christ quit your bitching.

The show is still funny as hell. I love it when ron makes fun of the live reads.

i hate fans of anything that act all uppity like the content creators owe them something just for being a fan. shut the fuck up.

:happy:

[FUCKTWATtheCLOWN]

Apparently some people on this board such as misery and ESDfan are accustomed to leading lives with consistently perfect experiences. Every meal they have is delicious, Every movie they see is flawless, every song they hear is a masterpiece. I like ron, fez, esd, pepper and all of the peripheral characters on the show, and that is why I listen. They are the artists, and the show is their canvas. Just because I appreciated one of their past works does not mean they must then cater the rest of their work to appeal to my tastes. I have the choice to laugh or not, I have the choice to listen or not, but deciding what kind of show they want to be is not in my power. If it was up to me, they would talk movies all show and dave and fez would drink and crazed would come at me with the rhymes that he chooses. That's a show I would enjoy, but I'm sure there would be threads made trashing that kind of show as well, so I'll let Ron and Fez structure the Ron and Fez show.

[The Ogre]

im glad that the illiterate are now coming to .net. yeah, you're right, you are neither good or bad - you're nothing. i dont understand why you must continue to ruin other threads (as if this thread were any good)


You attacking anyone for being illiterate is fucking hilarious. Keep plugging away at being Fez's #1 defender kid. Maybe one day you'll get an on air mention and can put it in your sig. In the meantime I'll keep ruining threads by posting opinions that don't match those of a worthless pedantic sycophant.

You bore me. Now is the time for you to have the last word. Please try to rise above the epic failure of your previous responses. Or not.

[Mexican_Radio]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...


Isn't this complaint getting old now? Listen or don't listen, no one cares what you do or think. Do you really think that they are going to change the show just for you because you posted an opinion on a message board? Maybe you should start complainabouttheshow.net.

[WampusCrandle]

You attacking anyone for being illiterate is fucking hilarious. Keep plugging away at being Fez's #1 defender kid. Maybe one day you'll get an on air mention and can put it in your sig. In the meantime I'll keep ruining threads by posting opinions that don't match those of a worthless pedantic sycophant.

You bore me. Now is the time for you to have the last word. Please try to rise above the epic failure of your previous responses. Or not.

dude, you're tiresome and you post the same shit in any thread that has something negative to say. we know you dont like the show. move on.

[spoon]

Yeah. Ron and Fez don't post here. Except Fez. Wait what? You contradict yourself in your own post. Fez didn't post here after the site being up here for years isn't on me dude. I joined in '08.

People aren't tired of salient points regardless of if they are positive or negative. They are tired of folks who just bash and don't post anywhere else on the site at all. That ain't me. They're also tired of rampant ass kissing. That ain't me either.

Sorry Wamp, I agree with this guy fully.

[WampusCrandle]

Sorry Wamp, I agree with this guy fully.

that's certainly fine! we still gonna fuck or what? :unsure:

[spoon]

only if you still have that rat's nest on your chin

[WampusCrandle]

only if you still have that rat's nest on your chin

im sorry, then we are on two different wave lengths

[Death Metal Moe]

I would love to her Mr. Misery call into the show and talk about all these concerns he has with Ron directly.

[spoon]

I would love to her Mr. Misery call into the show and talk about all these concerns he has with Ron directly.

Fuck Moe, Ron himself says similar shit DAILY and it's not totally in jest. Sorry but stop acting like there isn't a soul who could step up and have a good argument with Ron. In fact, that's exactly what the show needs, someone/something that could actually hang with, or mind you, one up Ron once in a while. Hell, I've even heard a few people have a great point only to back off bc they refuse to stay on an opposite angle, and I'm sure Ron was pissed to lose the possibility of a good challenge every once in a while. Bottom line, Ron is bored too.

[MBruce]

Fuck Moe, Ron himself says similar shit DAILY and it's not totally in jest. Sorry but stop acting like there isn't a soul who could step up and have a good argument with Ron. In fact, that's exactly what the show needs, someone/something that could actually hang with, or mind you, one up Ron once in a while. Hell, I've even heard a few people have a great point only to back off bc they refuse to stay on an opposite angle, and I'm sure Ron was pissed to lose the possibility of a good challenge every once in a while. Bottom line, Ron is bored too.

You've made a great point. To get the best out of Ron, he'll need a challenge. As great as he is, his best is hidden behind a playfriend.

[spoon]

You know why it won't happen, people like you, the group/mob mentality here jumping an anyone who voices a different or unpopular opinion no matter how respectful it's presented. You run into people protecting a guy who can easily take care of himself. Well, that's the norm, jump on the ship and try to be seen backing the big dog.

I'm a huge fan too, just not the type looking for constant personal involvement, or one that feels the need to send gifts for a show I pay to hear and support daily. If you ask me, it's more tiresome to see people constantly attack people who start threads like this in an effort to join the pack and be seen. Even when I disagree with some of these people, I respect that they obviously aren't here for any personal gain, or to feel part of something. Others seemingly get something out of just lining up. I'd rather people discuss things and make valid points or have them broken, as opposed to SHUT THE FUCK UP/TURN THE CHANNEL THEN (guy who I don't agree with).

[WampusCrandle]

i dont mind that people may not care for certain aspects of this show, but its tiresome to hear the same few people spew their disdain over and over again. its just tiresome to reread the same negative shit over and over again.

[MBruce]

"people like you" Were you addressing me?
I love the show. I don't know if I'm a "huge" fan. I've only enjoyed for a long while though...

[West.Coast.Skippy]

i dont mind that people may not care for certain aspects of this show, but its tiresome to hear the same few people spew their disdain over and over again. its just tiresome to reread the same negative shit over and over again.

hi wampus, do you see a contradiction here? people post "complaints" about the radio show and are told, 'if you don't like it, don't listen.' then other people post complaints about reading "whiny" posts. couldn't the same advice apply: if you don't like the threads, don't read them, and especially don't post in them? actually, i don't really agree with that advice, though. a respectful debate is the most interesting type of thread, to me.

[spoon]

"people like you" Were you addressing me?
I love the show. I don't know if I'm a "huge" fan. I've only enjoyed for a long while though...

Nah, it's for one of my favs (Moe) and the many others here who think it's impossible to be a fan and actually have a personal opinion that can not only differ, but fly in the face of what weak minded people would want/need to hear.

[Gvac]

Basically it boils down to this: fans who never want to hear any criticism or negativity think that fans who voice concerns over certain things aren't really fans.

Confused yet?

Me too.

I don't know if there's anyone who loves Ron and Fez (both the men and the show) more than I do, but I also like having the ability to come here and discuss certain things honestly.

If I can't do that then this isn't really a message board, it's a booster club and we're all cheerleaders.

[MBruce]

Nah, it's for one of my favs (Moe) and the many others here who think it's impossible to be a fan and actually have a personal opinion that can not only differ, but fly in the face of what weak minded people would want/need to hear.

Thanks for the clarification... I'm a bit neurotic since that fall off the balcony.

[Death Metal Moe]

Nah, it's for one of my favs (Moe) and the many others here who think it's impossible to be a fan and actually have a personal opinion that can not only differ, but fly in the face of what weak minded people would want/need to hear.


Who said any of that? I guess you're still sitting on front of you crystal ball trying to determine the intent of all my posts? Carry on then.

I actually agree with the fact that no one gives a shit about the Paltalk community except the 1/2% of fans actually on it, but that's how Ron and Fez have been. When they see paltalk rooms full of people supporting the show by listening together, they mention it. When they see messageboards full of people supporting and talking about the show as well as coming out to events, they mention it. They even have those people in the studio.

My suggestion to "call Ron with your complaint" is just so Ron can have a good time letting this guy know that Ron's going to do whatever show he wants to and no one's opinion on the topic actually matters. So no one is trying to stop discussion, good or bad, about the show, but we don't all agree with this guy.

[spoon]

fair enough, but you are acting as if YOU have the Ronny crystal ball out now...so right back at you (especially since I was dead on about ur post).

[Death Metal Moe]

fair enough, but you are acting as if YOU have the Ronny crystal ball out now...so right back at you (especially since I was dead on about ur post).

That is true, I can just never forget that one caller he blew up at their 1st couple of weeks at XM. Some fan who identified himself as a "long time" fan, even listening back from the Florida days. The guy had some sort of problem, and Ronnie used the situation to shout him down, reminding him that "I owe you NOTHING." Classic radio but yes, I was assuming I knew now Ron would handle this guy too. But hey, this thread is full of armchair psychics really.

[spoon]

sure but isn't that part of the fun?

[Death Metal Moe]

sure but isn't that part of the fun?

Well, of course. That's why this thread is going into what? It's 9th page? I mean it's no "Showerdump" or "Scented Candle" thread, but it's good.

[WampusCrandle]

hi wampus, do you see a contradiction here? people post "complaints" about the radio show and are told, 'if you don't like it, don't listen.' then other people post complaints about reading "whiny" posts. couldn't the same advice apply: if you don't like the threads, don't read them, and especially don't post in them? actually, i don't really agree with that advice, though. a respectful debate is the most interesting type of thread, to me.

i think my pet peeve is this: people that come and join the board and then immediately say what they dislike about it seems odd to me. Why join a fan site about a show that you don't like, or disdain so much that you constantly turn the dial? I just don't understand that part.I do want people to go on this board and say what they like, but people just post (from what i perceive) with harsh, negative tons, as opposed to constructive criticism. just have a point to your negativity (i dont mean you, i mean posters in general).

eh, but what the heck do i know, im a student and a librarian :king:

[Death Metal Moe]

The messageboard is here for discussion. That's my one pet peeve about Wackbag. If you have a thing to say that can be considered "negative" about O&A you're shouted down. Even if it's not bashing, let's just say you want to say how you're sick of Anthony's racism, for example.

I never want to see this place come close to that kind of mentality so sure, entertain the discussion.

But also understand that as "fans" of the show, most people aren't going to agree with you that "The Ron and Fez Show is not funny anymore." That's a very deliberate thread title. So you gotta be ready for the "Fuck offs" and "Eat a Dick" statements.

[Gvac]

The messageboard is here for discussion. That's my one pet peeve about Wackbag. If you have a thing to say that can be considered "negative" about O&A you're shouted down. Even if it's not bashing, let's just say you want to say how you're sick of Anthony's racism, for example.

I was banned from Wackbag twice under two different names. I got banned a few years back shortly before Christmas vacation because I said "The break is coming at just the right time. The boys sound a little burned out lately."

Apparently that was taken as me "flaming" O and A and being a "hater."

Another time I said the show seemed to have changed, not being as funny as it once was and a bit more serious and angry.

That got me a two week vacation, I believe.

If RFnet ever gets like that I'd be banned every other week.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

I was banned from Wackbag twice under two different names. I got banned a few years back shortly before Christmas vacation because I said "The break is coming at just the right time. The boys sound a little burned out lately."

Apparently that was taken as me "flaming" O and A and being a "hater."

Another time I said the show seemed to have changed, not being as funny as it once was and a bit more serious and angry.

That got me a two week vacation, I believe.

If RFnet ever gets like that I'd be banned every other week.A man can still dream G. They can't take that away from you.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

i think my pet peeve is this: people that come and join the board and then immediately say what they dislike about it seems odd to me. Why join a fan site about a show that you don't like, or disdain so much that you constantly turn the dial? I just don't understand that part.I do want people to go on this board and say what they like, but people just post (from what i perceive) with harsh, negative tons, as opposed to constructive criticism. just have a point to your negativity (i dont mean you, i mean posters in general).

eh, but what the heck do i know, im a student and a librarian :king:

i see what you mean. you're right, that does just seem mean spirited. but i think, as mostly a lurker, your post is at the kernel of a huge number of disagreements here on the board. That is to say, for some this board is a place for fans of r & f to talk, and for others it is a place for listeners to talk about r & f.

personally, i'd rather chat about r & f with friends over beers (vs onlnie), and have tried to turn on some pals to it out here in oregon, but in lieu of that, i have this place to chat about the show.

[Drunky McBetidont]

i like turtles


http://www.retailgourmet.com/images/Milk_Chocolate_Pecan_Turtle.jpg

[mikeyboy]

i like turtles


http://www.retailgourmet.com/images/Milk_Chocolate_Pecan_Turtle.jpg

Your opinion is shit.

[Death Metal Moe]

Your opinion is shit.

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Pelican%20Oh%20Snap.JPG

[WampusCrandle]

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Pelican%20Oh%20Snap.JPG

:lol: the only laugh i've had in the entire thread.

[Gvac]

I wish I could be an Administrator for just 15 minutes.

I'd straighten this place out!

[Death Metal Moe]

I wish I could be an Administrator for just 15 minutes.

I'd straighten this place out!

Dude, you'd go on a olive sodium induced rampage, we can't put this place in your hands. You're a loose cannon!

[Gvac]

Dude, you'd go on a olive sodium induced rampage, we can't put this place in your hands. You're a loose cannon!

EXACTLY!!!

That's why I'm limiting myself to 15 minutes.

[Death Metal Moe]

EXACTLY!!!

That's why I'm limiting myself to 15 minutes.

You're hard but fair.

Here ya go man..

http://ninecooks.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/blackolives.jpg

Lock up when you're done.

[WampusCrandle]

I wish I could be an Administrator for just 15 minutes.

I'd straighten this place out!

PEOPLE - YOU ALL BETTER LISTEN UP! HE FUCKS GORILLAS UP! SO, WITH THAT SAID, let him be an admin. for a few minutes

[Dell]

You know why it won't happen, people like you, the group/mob mentality here jumping an anyone who voices a different or unpopular opinion no matter how respectful it's presented. You run into people protecting a guy who can easily take care of himself. Well, that's the norm, jump on the ship and try to be seen backing the big dog.

I'm a huge fan too, just not the type looking for constant personal involvement, or one that feels the need to send gifts for a show I pay to hear and support daily. If you ask me, it's more tiresome to see people constantly attack people who start threads like this in an effort to join the pack and be seen. Even when I disagree with some of these people, I respect that they obviously aren't here for any personal gain, or to feel part of something. Others seemingly get something out of just lining up. I'd rather people discuss things and make valid points or have them broken, as opposed to SHUT THE FUCK UP/TURN THE CHANNEL THEN (guy who I don't agree with).

Probably the longest post I've actually read... and I agree with it... (maybe reading isn't the work of the devil)

However, you have to admit even a very well-stated opinion gets old when repeated over and over (just as the "don't listen then" argument gets old)

[Drunky McBetidont]

Your opinion is shit.

turtles taste way better than shit. try em. and i am grilling ribs right now, so mikeyboy gets none. none


http://www.retailgourmet.com/images/Milk_Chocolate_Pecan_Turtle.jpg

[Dell]

i think my pet peeve is this: people that come and join the board and then immediately say what they dislike about it seems odd to me. Why join a fan site about a show that you don't like, or disdain so much that you constantly turn the dial? I just don't understand that part.I do want people to go on this board and say what they like, but people just post (from what i perceive) with harsh, negative tons, as opposed to constructive criticism. just have a point to your negativity (i dont mean you, i mean posters in general).

eh, but what the heck do i know, im a student and a librarian :king:

I want a satellite radio with a dial... what kind do you have? :wink:

[Dell]

I was banned from Wackbag twice under two different names. I got banned a few years back shortly before Christmas vacation because I said "The break is coming at just the right time. The boys sound a little burned out lately."

Apparently that was taken as me "flaming" O and A and being a "hater."

Another time I said the show seemed to have changed, not being as funny as it once was and a bit more serious and angry.

That got me a two week vacation, I believe.

If RFnet ever gets like that I'd be banned every other week.

That was you :nono: :wink:

[Death Metal Moe]

Probably the longest post I've actually read... and I agree with it... (maybe reading isn't the work of the devil)

However, you have to admit even a very well-stated opinion gets old when repeated over and over (just as the "don't listen then" argument gets old)

But sometimes the "Don't listen then" isn't an argument or a way to "get" the person posting. Sometimes it's just a suggestion that maybe you should consider that the show isn't for you.

I understand how disappointing it would be for you to suddenly not like somethint you liked in the past, but things do change. If it's not presented in a snotty way, it's just a suggestion that maybe you shouldn't torture yourself anymore. Just move on and check back in a couple weeks to see if you're into it again.

My personal tastes changed BIG TIME twice in the past 10 years. I went from loving Stern to finding his show the same boring dogshit everyday and I dumped him years before his boring move to satellite. I was also a huge conservative talk radio fan for years as well but my personal opinions about my core values on a lot of topics changed so I didn't need to hear the right trumpet their fear mongering anymore.

Circumstances change, the hosts change, listeners need to change sometimes too.

[Drunky McBetidont]

But sometimes the "Don't listen then" isn't an argument or a way to "get" the person posting. Sometimes it's just a suggestion that maybe you should consider that the show isn't for you.

I understand how disappointing it would be for you to suddenly not like somethint you liked in the past, but things do change. If it's not presented in a snotty way, it's just a suggestion that maybe you shouldn't torture yourself anymore. Just move on and check back in a couple weeks to see if you're into it again.

My personal tastes changed BIG TIME twice in the past 10 years. I went from loving Stern to finding his show the same boring dogshit everyday and I dumped him years before his boring move to satellite. I was also a huge conservative talk radio fan for years as well but my personal opinions about my core values on a lot of topics changed so I didn't need to hear the right trumpet their fear mongering anymore.

Circumstances change, the hosts change, listeners need to change sometimes too.


i am definately leaving my wife and kids. thanks moe! :wub:

[Gvac]

That was you :nono: :wink:

Yeah.

Sorry. :down:

[Death Metal Moe]

i am definately leaving my wife and kids. thanks moe! :wub:

Naa dude, stick with her.

Ashleymadison.com.

[WampusCrandle]

i am definately leaving my wife and kids. thanks moe! :wub:

yeah, families are lame. fuck family - live alone and eat out of cans

[SeventySix]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/dransifl/free_cat1.jpg

Please Recycle people

[Drunky McBetidont]

Naa dude, stick with her.

Ashleymadison.com.

ashley madison saved my marriage after craigs's list fucked the whole thing up. thanks moe, i will stay a dad and husband!

[Drunky McBetidont]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/dransifl/free_cat1.jpg

Please Recycle people

MUFFIN!!!!!!

[Death Metal Moe]

ashley madison saved my marriage after craigs's list fucked the whole thing up. thanks moe, i will stay a dad and husband!

If there's one thing I would want people to remember about Death Metal Moe, it's that it's FAMILY 1ST with me.

And it always will be :wub:

[SeventySix]

MUFFIN!!!!!!

Hope it helps with the mourning to know I hit her solid at 60 MPH...she felt nothing but my front bumper!

[mudflap170]

After reading this thread, I can fully understand why Fez doesn't want to be buried n Northern Virginia.

[WampusCrandle]

After reading this thread, I can fully understand why Fez doesn't want to be buried n Northern Virginia.

exactly

[BlackOutEarl]

Not particularly. Most people become what they hate after a while. it's interesting to watch it happen. SHOCK JOKS! I love ron and fez AND o and A. Just two very different group of people.

Some people just create what they hate, how's your wife Jay?

[rickydavis]

sweet melt

[AKA]

After reading this thread, I can fully understand why Fez doesn't want to be buried n Northern Virginia.

But we've already bought the plot, and secured a room at the local library for the reception.

[slames]

Yeah, and I was trying to say I think Fez isn't sounding very healthy mentally and that maybe a change would help the guy out.

That turned into a bunch of greedy people who could care less about Fez's health and who just really like hearing him get punked on a daily basis amuse them for three hours a day coming after me like I took their pudding pops away.

But I was the bad guy? lol.

Half the people on this board who start barking are doing so because they are self involved in their message board persona.

That's weak sauce.


You know why it won't happen, people like you, the group/mob mentality here jumping an anyone who voices a different or unpopular opinion no matter how respectful it's presented. You run into people protecting a guy who can easily take care of himself. Well, that's the norm, jump on the ship and try to be seen backing the big dog.

I'm a huge fan too, just not the type looking for constant personal involvement, or one that feels the need to send gifts for a show I pay to hear and support daily. If you ask me, it's more tiresome to see people constantly attack people who start threads like this in an effort to join the pack and be seen. Even when I disagree with some of these people, I respect that they obviously aren't here for any personal gain, or to feel part of something. Others seemingly get something out of just lining up. I'd rather people discuss things and make valid points or have them broken, as opposed to SHUT THE FUCK UP/TURN THE CHANNEL THEN (guy who I don't agree with).


I am beyond tired of this. Why do people who join a fansite to talk shit about the subject of said fansite feel persecuted when the fans turn on them? Try this out if you need an example of what I'm talking about. Join the klu klux klan, and start bitching. "Let me say first off I'm a fan of what You're doing. But white supremacy was way better before. I don't think the grand wizard is as racist as he was. You guys are all sheep for hating blacks. I'm the real racist for stating my mind." And see what reaction you get. No, I'm serious, FUCKING DO IT! Stop acting like your opinion is so golden you must enlighten us (the ones inaccurately referred to as "sheep, followers, angry mob/group mentality, sycophants) to your brilliant truth. And when you get called out on it stop using "I'm just stating my opinion. Sorry you want to silence me, HITLER!" Your negative opinion of a show the fans joined this site to discuss isn't wanted! Not even necessarily invalid just unwelcome on a website made to appreciate the show.


And while I'm here I'd like to say stop pretending to care about Fez. Maybe he has some issues to deal with but losing his job that connects him to all of his friends isn't healthy for him either. And stop guessing at people intentions! Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is angry about fans being included in the show or people trying to contribute or get an on air mention is only angry that they don't get the attention themselves. Sorry people in showbiz usually don't like to bask in the hate of their angry nerd fans. You catch more flies with honey, assholes. But You are all probably too macho for that, right? Being a tough guy on a message board is good enough.


I'd love to see fezfez in here defending himself. But if he did that every time one of these bitching threads was made he'd be at the computer all day making those nerds lives worth it.

[mikeyboy]

I am beyond tired of this. Why do people who join a fansite to talk shit about the subject of said fansite feel persecuted when the fans turn on them? Try this out if you need an example of what I'm talking about. Join the klu klux klan, and start bitching. "Let me say first off I'm a fan of what You're doing. But white supremacy was way better before. I don't think the grand wizard is as racist as he was. You guys are all sheep for hating blacks. I'm the real racist for stating my mind." And see what reaction you get. No, I'm serious, FUCKING DO IT! Stop acting like your opinion is so golden you must enlighten us (the ones inaccurately referred to as "sheep, followers, angry mob/group mentality, sycophants) to your brilliant truth. And when you get called out on it stop using "I'm just stating my opinion. Sorry you want to silence me, HITLER!" Your negative opinion of a show the fans joined this site to discuss isn't wanted! Not even necessarily invalid just unwelcome on a website made to appreciate the show.


And while I'm here I'd like to say stop pretending to care about Fez. Maybe he has some issues to deal with but losing his job that connects him to all of his friends isn't healthy for him either. And stop guessing at people intentions! Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is angry about fans being included in the show or people trying to contribute or get an on air mention is only angry that they don't get the attention themselves. Sorry people in showbiz usually don't like to bask in the hate of their angry nerd fans. You catch more flies with honey, assholes. But You are all probably too macho for that, right? Being a tough guy on a message board is good enough.


I'd love to see fezfez in here defending himself. But if he did that every time one of these bitching threads was made he'd be at the computer all day making those nerds lives worth it.

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

[Death Metal Moe]

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

FEZ POWER!

[glenndog]

I am beyond tired of this. Why do people who join a fansite to talk shit about the subject of said fansite feel persecuted when the fans turn on them? Try this out if you need an example of what I'm talking about. Join the klu klux klan, and start bitching. "Let me say first off I'm a fan of what You're doing. But white supremacy was way better before. I don't think the grand wizard is as racist as he was. You guys are all sheep for hating blacks. I'm the real racist for stating my mind." And see what reaction you get. No, I'm serious, FUCKING DO IT! Stop acting like your opinion is so golden you must enlighten us (the ones inaccurately referred to as "sheep, followers, angry mob/group mentality, sycophants) to your brilliant truth. And when you get called out on it stop using "I'm just stating my opinion. Sorry you want to silence me, HITLER!" Your negative opinion of a show the fans joined this site to discuss isn't wanted! Not even necessarily invalid just unwelcome on a website made to appreciate the show.


And while I'm here I'd like to say stop pretending to care about Fez. Maybe he has some issues to deal with but losing his job that connects him to all of his friends isn't healthy for him either. And stop guessing at people intentions! Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is angry about fans being included in the show or people trying to contribute or get an on air mention is only angry that they don't get the attention themselves. Sorry people in showbiz usually don't like to bask in the hate of their angry nerd fans. You catch more flies with honey, assholes. But You are all probably too macho for that, right? Being a tough guy on a message board is good enough.


I'd love to see fezfez in here defending himself. But if he did that every time one of these bitching threads was made he'd be at the computer all day making those nerds lives worth it.

effin-a brother. the kkk is great.

[mikeyboy]

FEZ POWER!

paging Photoshop Mike

http://passionforcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/american-history-x.jpg

[slames]

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

Always happy to blaze a trail.. :clap:

[ChrisTheCop]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/dransifl/free_cat1.jpg

Please Recycle people

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

Kitty Killing Komedians?

[Farthammer]

Why do I listen to this show every day? I almost never laugh at the show anymore. Let's face it--it's just not very funny. I'm sick of Fez being third mic, the incessant sports/baseball talk, Ron constantly referring to something that's happening on Paltalk ("that Babygirl sure is showing it off today")--most of us normal people who listen, believe it or not, don't live on Paltalk, or even know what it is...I'm sick of Ron entertaining calls and in-studio appearances by all these messageboard losers, sycophants, hangers-on and creeps. The show is excruciatingly inside. It didn't used to be this way.

And how did the show get turned into a three-hour infomercial these past couple months? Why did these live reads start, and are they ever going to end? I don't think Fez is well enough to do the show anymore. I think he has some very difficult issues he needs to work through, and I empathize with him. I don't think it helps him mentally to be making his living these days as the perpetual butt of everyone's jokes. This show is too dysfunctional to be funny or entertaining anymore. At one time, that was part of the charm...but it's gone to such an extreme that more than anything else, I feel empty and kind of sad, and a little bit cheated, when the show ends each day.

The Ron and Fez show is not funny anymore. I've been listening since the first overnight replay years ago on WJFK. It saddens me to see this show at such a loss. I hope Fez gets the help he needs and can find some amount of peace in his life. But I truly believe the show is not a positive or healthy thing for him at this particular time in his life.

Sadly, I'm still listening, despite everything I've said. But more and more, I've been wondering "why?"...

You are wrong.

[WampusCrandle]

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

why is everyone acting like they hate the KKK? :blink:

[FUCKTWATtheCLOWN]

. And stop guessing at people intentions! Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is angry about fans being included in the show or people trying to contribute or get an on air mention is only angry that they don't get the attention themselves. Sorry people in showbiz usually don't like to bask in the hate of their angry nerd fans. You catch more flies with honey, assholes. But You are all probably too macho for that, right? Being a tough guy on a message board is good enough.


great post, but to just address this part, I dont see why people get so enraged when HTG or any of the paltalk people are brought into the show. Isn't being too inside the reason why we listen to R&F? Isn't that what separates O&A and R&F from all the other shows that feature generic characters spewing the same old opinions and jokes on the day's pop culture topic over an upbeat music bed? There are wacky zany morning zoo shows that have to make up the characters that R&F genuinely have because of their relationship with their fans. Wanting the show to stop being inside is just asking for something you can get anywhere else.

[SeventySix]

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

I'm thinking it happened in 2006. I'm searching old threads as we speak!

What about all the good things the KKK do? I bet they built a lot of the american cars we drive today! Same goes for gaint flammable crosses. They don't just grow like that peoples! :)

[STC-Dub]

Now we know why Fez does not want to be burried in Norther Virginia...

[Big_D]

I still find it funny

[Drunk Dialer]

As with most (or all) of the responses I'll have to disagree with your assertion that the show isn't funny anymore. I hope it never comes to the point where I'm not laughing at Ronnie B humor, and to be honest I doubt that day will come (unless the show is canceled or they stop making it available over audible.) I do have to say that I can understand where you're coming from, though. I used to love O&A... I listened daily, laughed daily, and looked forward to queuing up the latest episode. Eventually it got to the point where I realized I was never laughing at the show anymore, and eventually all of the repeated humor and bits began to wear on me. Now I can barely stomach listening to the show... hearing Jimmy tell the same tired jokes over and over... Opie substituting being mean, cruel, and "shocking" for a lack of funny... etc. With O&A I'm taking a long break and I'll dip back in eventually (and hopefully it'll be fresh again). Maybe you need a breather from R&F. Life is short and if you're not enjoying something you need to figure out why you're spending so much time on it.

[conman823]

I am beyond tired of this. Why do people who join a fansite to talk shit about the subject of said fansite feel persecuted when the fans turn on them? Try this out if you need an example of what I'm talking about. Join the klu klux klan, and start bitching. "Let me say first off I'm a fan of what You're doing. But white supremacy was way better before. I don't think the grand wizard is as racist as he was. You guys are all sheep for hating blacks. I'm the real racist for stating my mind." And see what reaction you get. No, I'm serious, FUCKING DO IT! Stop acting like your opinion is so golden you must enlighten us (the ones inaccurately referred to as "sheep, followers, angry mob/group mentality, sycophants) to your brilliant truth. And when you get called out on it stop using "I'm just stating my opinion. Sorry you want to silence me, HITLER!" Your negative opinion of a show the fans joined this site to discuss isn't wanted! Not even necessarily invalid just unwelcome on a website made to appreciate the show.


And while I'm here I'd like to say stop pretending to care about Fez. Maybe he has some issues to deal with but losing his job that connects him to all of his friends isn't healthy for him either. And stop guessing at people intentions! Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is angry about fans being included in the show or people trying to contribute or get an on air mention is only angry that they don't get the attention themselves. Sorry people in showbiz usually don't like to bask in the hate of their angry nerd fans. You catch more flies with honey, assholes. But You are all probably too macho for that, right? Being a tough guy on a message board is good enough.


I'd love to see fezfez in here defending himself. But if he did that every time one of these bitching threads was made he'd be at the computer all day making those nerds lives worth it.

I think this is the first time the board has been compared to the KKK.

A board character from Texas Mikey.......for shame.