Mancow waterboarded

[Gerald]

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[epo]

Over here (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80066&page=2)!

[Mikemantis]

Well I believe that it is torture, but my views on waterboarding seem to be different from some. I think these terrorists should be waterboarded. It is a different type of torture that cause immediate pain, but not long lasting like whipping, beating, etc. Things like this have to be done to save american lives. Ofcourse not every terrorist but the ones who may have vital information to the country's safety. watching this video it is amazing to see how instant he reacted to the waterboarding. I will never know what it is like to be waterboarded but i still don't think it is that inhumane. I guess many of us will not know, i would like to try it out, to see how crazy it is.

[epo]

Well I believe that it is torture, but my views on waterboarding seem to be different from some. I think these terrorists should be waterboarded. It is a different type of torture that cause immediate pain, but not long lasting like whipping, beating, etc. Things like this have to be done to save american lives. Ofcourse not every terrorist but the ones who may have vital information to the country's safety. watching this video it is amazing to see how instant he reacted to the waterboarding. I will never know what it is like to be waterboarded but i still don't think it is that inhumane. I guess many of us will not know, i would like to try it out, to see how crazy it is.

Welcome to the site. You might wanna try this thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79884).

[Dave's Cackle]

Things like this have to be done to save american lives.

Name ONE case in the history of this country which proves your point to be true...in ANY way.

Ready...GO! :lol::lol::lol:

[GreatAmericanZero]

so sad seeing No Filter Paul waterboarded like that

[Brad_Rush]

Well I believe that it is torture... but i still don't think it is that inhumane.

How can you define something as torture and then say it is not that inhumane?

[TjM]

Name ONE case in the history of this country which proves your point to be true...in ANY way.

Ready...GO! :lol::lol::lol:

Name one where it doesn't. Whoe the fuck knows what went on behind the scenes

[KnoxHarrington]

How can you define something as torture and then say it is not that inhumane?

It's nice, polite torture!

[Dave's Cackle]

Name one where it doesn't. Whoe the fuck knows what went on behind the scenes

Poor logic.

REPLY FAIL :thumbdown:

[mikeyboy]

so sad seeing No Filter Paul waterboarded like that

My first thought as well.

[ToiletCrusher]

meh

[Stankfoot]

Waterboard Hannity Next!

[Mikemantis]

How can you define something as torture and then say it is not that inhumane?

there are levels to it, are we cutting limbs off, No. Are we burning them with rods, now just a few seconds of simulated drowning to get them to talk. what would you rather us do out of the two beat them with wips or waterboard. there a levels of torture

[Death Metal Moe]

I won't click the link because Mancow sucks, but I suspect he survived the ordeal.

Couldn't someone have slipped the guys doing in a few bucks to finish the job?

[Mikemantis]

[QUOTE=Dave's Cackle;2270568]Name ONE case in the history of this country which proves your point to be true...in ANY way.


What if we waterboarded a Japanese soldier before Pearl Harbor. There is one of many, Now not everyone needs to be waterboarded but there a some that should, or need to be. Think of things we could stop or prevent. Some people think this country has not blood its hands. The history of this country is quite disgusting when it comes to how we came in to control of this land. Many of these other countries do way worse then just waterboarding. I believe that it is low on the spectrum of torture.

[Mikemantis]

How can you define something as torture and then say it is not that inhumane?

What if we waterboarded a Japanese soldier before Pearl Harbor. There is one of many, Now not everyone needs to be waterboarded but there a some that should, or need to be. Think of things we could stop or prevent. Some people think this country has not blood its hands. The history of this country is quite disgusting when it comes to how we came in to control of this land. Many of these other countries do way worse then just waterboarding. I believe that it is low on the spectrum of torture

[Death Metal Moe]

What if we waterboarded a Japanese soldier before Pearl Harbor. There is one of many, Now not everyone needs to be waterboarded but there a some that should, or need to be. Think of things we could stop or prevent. Some people think this country has not blood its hands. The history of this country is quite disgusting when it comes to how we came in to control of this land. Many of these other countries do way worse then just waterboarding. I believe that it is low on the spectrum of torture

I would really love to see what kind of solid leads they got out of people waterboarding them.

You reach a point torturing someone where they will say anything to get out of it. I'm sure there's been plenty of bullshit coming out of the mouths of these guys. Sure, they probably got some info too, but there's no way of proving they wouldn't have got the info from him other ways.

[Dave's Cackle]

What if we waterboarded a Japanese soldier before Pearl Harbor.

What if?

You have no concept nor understanding of history. The only people who knew about the Japanese assault were officers, pilots, and the Emperor himself. We didn't have access to ANYONE who knew about the assault. In fact, our notion that there might be an attack on that particular base was gathered through linguists and codebreakers - you know, ol' fashioned police-type work.

YOU HAVE BEEN LEVELED WITH A TRUTH BOMB :thumbup:

Torture someone and they'll tell you what they want to hear. It happened during the Spanish Inquisition, it happened during Vietnam, and it happens in the present day. Learn from history or be a conservative.

[styckx]

Getting waterboarded is old hat, the new rave is "I'm bi sexual". Everyone is doing it!!

[Space Edge]

Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before saying its torture

Video here
(http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/05/conservative-radio-hosts-waterboarded/)
Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller decided he'd get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn't torture.

It didn't turn out that way. "Mancow," in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul. Apparently, the experience went pretty badly -- "Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop," according to NBC Chicago.

"The average person can take this for 14 seconds," Marine Sergeant Clay South told his audience before he was waterboarded on air. "He's going to wiggle, he's going to scream, he's going to wish he never did this."

Want more stories like this? Check out the front page of RawStory.com.

Mancow was set on a 7-foot long table with his legs elevated and his feet tied.

"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face...I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "

The upshot? "It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow told listeners. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back...It was instantaneous...and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."

"Absolutely. I mean that's drowning," he added later. "It is the feeling of drowning."

"If I knew it was gonna be this bad, I would not have done it," he said.

The 42-year-old radio host is no stranger to controversy. In 2005, he was maligned for saying that then-Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean was "vile," "bloodthirsty," "evil" and "should be kicked out of America."

[Sue_Bender]

Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before saying its torture

Video here
(http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/05/conservative-radio-hosts-waterboarded/)


There are already a couple of threads with that Silly Mancow garbage floating around here.

[HBox]

People need to start admitting they listen to Mancow because there are too many of these threads.

[Gerald]

This is the first real national exposure he's ever had.

[Space Edge]

There are already a couple of threads with that Silly Mancow garbage floating around here.

I looked in the waterboarding thread didn't see anything mentioned, let one of the mods move it gives them a change from pointing out over sized sig pics :tongue:

[epo]

I looked in the waterboarding thread didn't see anything mentioned, let one of the mods move it gives them a change from pointing out over sized sig pics :tongue:

It's in the Waterboarding thread & in a "mancow waterboarded" thread of its own already.

[sailor]

It's in the Waterboarding thread & in a "mancow waterboarded" thread of its own already.

hey, he added "gets"

[sailor]

that wasn't water-boarding so much as simply pouring a pitcher of water in someone's mouth. very weird.

[Brad_Rush]

there are levels to it, are we cutting limbs off, No. Are we burning them with rods, now just a few seconds of simulated drowning to get them to talk. what would you rather us do out of the two beat them with wips or waterboard. there a levels of torture

My point wasn't as to whether toture is neccessary or not. By its definition, if something is torture it is completely inhumane.

[Suspect Chin]

Waterboarding is the best form of torture there is. No long term physical damage, but immediate results. Continue please.

[Melk]

Waterboarding is the best form of torture there is. No long term physical damage, but immediate results. Continue please.
While I was in high school in the 90s there was a homeless World War 2 veteran living in a forest neat Frankfort/Tinley Park, Illinois that my history teacher used to like to introduce his students to.

The guy had severe phobia of confinement and a pronounced fear of water to the point where he hadn't taken a bath in several years because he was a POW of the Japanese. He was waterboarded, locked in solitary and refused rest for weeks on end.

But, again... no long "physical" damage.

Game on

[TripleSkeet]

What if we waterboarded a Japanese soldier before Pearl Harbor. There is one of many, Now not everyone needs to be waterboarded but there a some that should, or need to be. Think of things we could stop or prevent. Some people think this country has not blood its hands. The history of this country is quite disgusting when it comes to how we came in to control of this land. Many of these other countries do way worse then just waterboarding. I believe that it is low on the spectrum of torture

That may be the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. Why would someone willing to kill themselves in order to complete their goal say anything to some fucking guy torturing them? They are already willing to die, they arent going to tell you shit, unless its something they fucking make up to send you in the wrong direction.

I think Id like to try it just to see how long Id last. I think Id be able to outlast that fat ugly hump.

[MisterSmith]

I hate to say this, but it didn't look that bad - but I also have a lot more faith in my own abilities than that jackass Mancow. At this point the only way I will probably understand is to be waterboarded myself - right now I can't conceptualize what is happening and how it feels.

I don't condone torture, but I also don't know what these interrogators have to go through to get information. At this point I can say that I know enough to say that I don't know enough.

[SP1!]

Too bad they didnt just keep waterboarding him till he was dead.

Im sure my 10 year old niece would have lasted longer than him.

[earthbrown]

i think torture has to have permanent effects on the body, or be severe physical distress.

I think the little we used it, shows our realization that it is not something to be used whenever possible.

If we would have used this on hundreds of detainees, I would see all of the ourrage, this is simply a non-issue.

OBAMA is a CUNT, because he declassifies the procedure and the instances of use, BUT he does not declassify the results of the sessions.

K

[styckx]

Shocker, the whole thing was a hoax radio stunt performed by a Marine who read how to do it off the internet and it was only a "simulated" waterboarding, that either went wrong, or he faked the whole reaction.

http://gawker.com/5272691/mancows-waterboarding-was-completely-fake


According to e-mails from Muller's(Mancow) publicist obtained by Cajun Boy, on the day before the heavily promoted stunt was supposed to happen, Muller was frantically looking for anybody to perform the waterboarding:

It is going to have to look "real" but of course would be simulated with Mancow acting like he is drowning. It will be a hoax but have to look real. Would be great if they could dress in fatigues and bring whatever is needed. We will supply the water.


UPDATE: Mancow called us back to say that even though his waterboarder didn't know what he was doing, and his publicist called the whole thing a "hoax," it wasn't supposed to be a REALLY real waterboarding to begin with. Just the radio stunt kind! "Of course I wasn't a radical terrorist," he said. "Of course it was simulated. To compare what I went through to what Khalid Sheikh Mohammed went through—of course it was not the same. I'm sure it was worse for them."

[underdog]

Shocker, the whole thing was a hoax radio stunt performed by a Marine who read how to do it off the internet and it was only a "simulated" waterboarding, that either went wrong, or he faked the whole reaction.

http://gawker.com/5272691/mancows-waterboarding-was-completely-fake

I am officially shocked.

[Serpico1103]

It seemed so fake. Cant you hold your breath for that long? I thought the idea was when you went to gasp for air, the wet cloth made you only breathe in water.
Mancow must almost drown every time he drinks water.

He is trying to reinvent himself as a political commentator, sadly he isn't as smart as even Hannity, Rush, or O'Reilly.

[styckx]

It seemed so fake. Cant you hold your breath for that long? I thought the idea was when you went to gasp for air, the wet cloth made you only breathe in water.
Mancow must almost drown every time he drinks water.

He is trying to reinvent himself as a political commentator, sadly he isn't as smart as even Hannity, Rush, or O'Reilly.

The video was retarded. His mouth was uncovered, he HELD HIS NOSE, the guy poured water on his mouth. Waterboarding is the entire face covered, and you slowly apply water to the towel, head inclined backwards, no holding your nose.

Mancow's waterboarding was the equivalent of a 9 year old holding their nose and taking their first jump off the diving board into the deep end.

[spainlinx0]

Look up Christopher Hitchens waterboarded. That is REAL waterboarding. Cloths covering his entire face. They don't just pour a whole pitcher on his face. You will be shocked how fast he freaks out, and he also does a good job of describing the feeling.