Chuckwagon's call

[AKA]

You know, I couldn't get over how much Boog Powell reminded me of Ron.

Sounds like an insult to me...BAN!

No, it sounds more like sucking up to an Orioles fan.

[WampusCrandle]

Mojo - what did I do?

Yeah, I'm still confused why I was on Dave's shit list - and on my burfday of all days :glurps:. TC and I are being burnt at the stake!

Shut this place down and make 3.0

Hmmmm - would it be like Windows Vista?

[mikeyboy]

Yeah, I'm still confused why I was on Dave's shit list - and on my burfday of all days :glurps:. TC and I are being burnt at the stake!


Sometimes the gods require a sacrifice.

[styckx]

Hmmmm - would it be like Windows Vista?

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FUCK!

[Sue_Bender]

Well, it's good to see that everything's been worked out.


ronfez.net already has that "New Site Smell". :thumbup:

[Evolved]

Fez,

You'll be welcome with open arms over at Wackbag and I know an olive branch has been extended. It's time to make the move buddy.

[Stuft]

Fez,

You'll be welcome with open arms over at Wackbag and I know an olive branch has been extended. It's time to make the move buddy.

:lol: That's fanfuckingtastic!

[okterrificsk]

Fez this is chuckwagon's fat girlfriend and i just want you to know that we love you, it wasn't even him who called, he was at work

we will listen to the replay this weekend cuz we haven't even heard the call yet!!

I love Fez but he cant have it both ways. He either blows up at people, goes silent for days, or cries like a crazy person every time someone says something mean about his sad life (its getting less sad good job fez your getting there), his health, weight, and other personal attacks. He acts like its over the line and out of bounds BUT Fez is constantly shredding people up like Chuckwagons girl and mocking peoples weight and appearances. And its not just random meaningless celebrities its "friends", co workers, regular friends of the show.

Fez you cant have it both ways. You cant be mean to people and then when people hit you back its over the line and cry inducing.

Dont stop making fun of people fez just stop crying like a goof ball when someone dares to strike back at you. This is another one of your social/mental problems you should be working out with a pro not on a message board.

Keep getting better Fez and keep in mind the entire world does not revolve around you and everyone shouldnt have to act a certain way just b/c you say so.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Fez,

You'll be welcome with open arms over at Wackbag and I know an olive branch has been extended. It's time to make the move buddy.

It's a lie Fez; you'd be better off dancing on a bear trap with a landmine under it, than stepping foot in that place.

[Serpico1103]

actually any negativity is not wanted. If I was running things with the backing of the members I would ban everyone I thought bad mouthed the show.


I am not saying that negativity is wanted. I am saying that some criticism is expected and should be tolerated. Personal attacks that lack humor and are only made to incite an angry reaction should be unwelcome.

I love R&F, 4 hours a day, and sometimes I listen to it again.

[SatCam]

I love Fez but he cant have it both ways. He either blows up at people, goes silent for days, or cries like a crazy person every time someone says something mean about his sad life (its getting less sad good job fez your getting there), his health, weight, and other personal attacks. He acts like its over the line and out of bounds BUT Fez is constantly shredding people up like Chuckwagons girl and mocking peoples weight and appearances. And its not just random meaningless celebrities its "friends", co workers, regular friends of the show.

Fez you cant have it both ways. You cant be mean to people and then when people hit you back its over the line and cry inducing.

Dont stop making fun of people fez just stop crying like a goof ball when someone dares to strike back at you. This is another one of your social/mental problems you should be working out with a pro not on a message board.

Keep getting better Fez and keep in mind the entire world does not revolve around you and everyone shouldnt have to act a certain way just b/c you say so.

I want to see this man banned! fucking negativity.................

[West.Coast.Skippy]

fez's outburst hours later didn't match the essentially two liner 40 minutes into the show. here's the transcript of the caller after the greeting: "i think this article's kind of interesting [article about young people hugging when greeting]. remember how you and i great each other when we eat each other's ass? ... huuuuuh?" that was the whole call. anyone could hear that what fez was really responding to later in the show was every person that ever mocked him, every shrink that failed him, every night he's home alone, every conversation he didn't spark up, every giggle at his expense, every time he failed himself, etc. or it was a catty moment bit gone stratospheric.

as far as people "analyzing" him on the internet - they are just continuing the conversation from the show. some shows talk about stocks, others about gardening, and r&f talk a lot about fez's therapy, childhood, misery and strife. and they talk a lot about homosexuality.

and what a paradoxical corner fez has worked himself into making an entire radio personality out of a gay character. i really wonder if the irony of his fortune and misfortune stemming from the same point is clear to him.

[Dude!]

fez's outburst hours later didn't match the essentially two liner 40 minutes into the show. here's the transcript of the caller after the greeting: "i think this article's kind of interesting [article about young people hugging when greeting]. remember how you and i great each other when we eat each other's ass? ... huuuuuh?" that was the whole call. anyone could hear that what fez was really responding to later in the show was every person that ever mocked him, every shrink that failed him, every night he's home alone, every conversation he didn't spark up, every giggle at his expense, every time he failed himself, etc. or it was a catty moment bit gone stratospheric.

as far as people "analyzing" him on the internet - they are just continuing the conversation from the show. some shows talk about stocks, others about gardening, and r&f talk a lot about fez's therapy, childhood, misery and strife. and they talk a lot about homosexuality.

and what a paradoxical corner fez has worked himself into making an entire radio personality out of a gay character. i really wonder if the irony of his fortune and misfortune stemming from the same point is clear to him.



geez
thanks, freud

[Serpico1103]

fez's outburst hours later didn't match the essentially two liner 40 minutes into the show. here's the transcript of the caller after the greeting: "i think this article's kind of interesting [article about young people hugging when greeting]. remember how you and i great each other when we eat each other's ass? ... huuuuuh?" that was the whole call. anyone could hear that what fez was really responding to later in the show was every person that ever mocked him, every shrink that failed him, every night he's home alone, every conversation he didn't spark up, every giggle at his expense, every time he failed himself, etc. or it was a catty moment bit gone stratospheric.

as far as people "analyzing" him on the internet - they are just continuing the conversation from the show. some shows talk about stocks, others about gardening, and r&f talk a lot about fez's therapy, childhood, misery and strife. and they talk a lot about homosexuality.

and what a paradoxical corner fez has worked himself into making an entire radio personality out of a gay character. i really wonder if the irony of his fortune and misfortune stemming from the same point is clear to him.


Still keeping the "shift" key in pristine condition I see.
w R i T e LI k e a nor MAL Pe R s o n.

[weekapaugjz]

Still keeping the "shift" key in pristine condition I see.
w R i T e LI k e a nor MAL Pe R s o n.

oh no! no capital letters! oh, the humanity!!!

[Serpico1103]

Perhaps to minimize trolling, people should be given a certain number of warnings according to how many posts they have. Under 100 posts, no warning, 100-500, one warning, 500-1000, two warnings, etc.

To prevent board characters and newbies from dictating the direction of the board.

[styckx]

Perhaps to minimize trolling, people should be given a certain number of warnings according to how many posts they have. Under 100 posts, no warning, 100-500, one warning, 500-1000, two warnings, etc.

To prevent board characters and newbies from dictating the direction of the board.

Do the mods get training in excel to document warnings given out in accordance to post count?

No offense, worst idea ever.

[mikeyboy]

Perhaps to minimize trolling, people should be given a certain number of warnings according to how many posts they have. Under 100 posts, no warning, 100-500, one warning, 500-1000, two warnings, etc.

To prevent board characters and newbies from dictating the direction of the board.

MOE IS UNBANNABLE!!!!!!

[Stuft]

Perhaps to minimize trolling, people should be given a certain number of warnings according to how many posts they have. Under 100 posts, no warning, 100-500, one warning, 500-1000, two warnings, etc.

To prevent board characters and newbies from dictating the direction of the board.

What a stupid idea. Post count doesn't make you any less of a fan. I've been listening to the show since the early WNEW days (overnights). Trolls are an entirely different issue.

[brettmojo]

Ban striker.
Ban turtle.

Proceed from there...

[jlehane3]

"Moe ate my Puppy Chow" "Moe sleeping with Alfred E Neuman" ah the wonder years of OLD ronfez.net

[Annie Waits]

fez's outburst hours later didn't match the essentially two liner 40 minutes into the show. here's the transcript of the caller after the greeting: "i think this article's kind of interesting [article about young people hugging when greeting]. remember how you and i great each other when we eat each other's ass? ... huuuuuh?" that was the whole call. anyone could hear that what fez was really responding to later in the show was every person that ever mocked him, every shrink that failed him, every night he's home alone, every conversation he didn't spark up, every giggle at his expense, every time he failed himself, etc. or it was a catty moment bit gone stratospheric.

as far as people "analyzing" him on the internet - they are just continuing the conversation from the show. some shows talk about stocks, others about gardening, and r&f talk a lot about fez's therapy, childhood, misery and strife. and they talk a lot about homosexuality.

and what a paradoxical corner fez has worked himself into making an entire radio personality out of a gay character. i really wonder if the irony of his fortune and misfortune stemming from the same point is clear to him.


this is the only post that makes sens in this thread,
you pretty much summed it up,
amen.

[Serpico1103]

What a stupid idea. Post count doesn't make you any less of a fan. I've been listening to the show since the early WNEW days (overnights). Trolls are an entirely different issue.

I didn't say post count made you a better fan. However, it is a way of preventing new people from changing the course of the board.
Being banned for a day or a week isn't a death sentence. Post what you honestly believe. If you believe it, is the threat of a ban for a week such a horrible thing?
It was just an idea to maintain some consistency and to prevent trolls, newbies, board characters from bringing the board down.

[Serpico1103]

Do the mods get training in excel to document warnings given out in accordance to post count?

No offense, worst idea ever.

I am offended. This is your first and only warning.

[Suspect Chin]

I am offended. This is your first and only warning.

You have to have at least 1200 posts to give warnings. Sorry.

[styckx]

You have to have at least 1200 posts to give warnings. Sorry.

What if we divide by zero?

[Serpico1103]

You have to have at least 1200 posts to give warnings. Sorry.

Damn those post requirements.

[Suspect Chin]

What if we divide by zero?

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[GameRelatedSig]

What if we divide by zero?

http://data.tumblr.com/12981617_400.jpg


Not a good idea...

[Suspect Chin]

Damn it. Your picture was better.

[Death Metal Moe]

MOE IS UNBANNABLE!!!!!!

And it doesn't even have to do with my post count. That's fucking GOSPEL from Ron Bennington HIMSELF!

We all know he runs the show here anyway. What he says, GOES!

[Death Metal Moe]

Change is coming. Bank on it.

All joking aside, I look forward to it. Maybe we won't have the 2 guys the fucking place is named after running it down. All because of a half dozen pieces of shit.

I stand ready for battle.

[CruelCircus]

I've said it hundreds of times before but I'll say it again - the very fact that this site has the names of the hosts (and the show) in its title means it has a certain responsibility to them. It's not "IveGotTwoRadioShows.com" or "DontMakeYouABadPerson.net" it's "RonFez.net." That should mean something


Let me remind you that people HOWLED in protest, defected to create new boards, imploded boards, and to this day still joke about when this exact logic was put to use by Anthony over at OA.com.

Let's not turn Mikeyboy into Froy 2009, ok?

[CruelCircus]

Someone here: Shocker, Dave got trashed again on the show and had to go home to those poor children because he's a 24/7 alcoholic who has no concept of life or family values.

^ PM warning to knock it the fuck off. They repeat, vacation time. From what I've read, too many "warnings" are given. Tell them once, if they ignore, ban hamster.

What about when Ron spends 15 minutes talking about Dave being trashed, mocks him for it, brings up Protective Services, brings in Hicks to back it up, then willingly takes a bunch of phone calls that mock Dave and question why he is spending his little money on beer (people seem to forget, he usually has the caller and what they want to talk about on a screen in front of him, these callers don't just pop up out of the blue)?

We're just not allowed to talk about that 15 minute segment of the show? Come on.

[Sue_Bender]

There is an undercurrent of Blowing Boys thus far.


Back off, sensible peoples!

[Gvac]

Let me remind you that people HOWLED in protest, defected to create new boards, imploded boards, and to this day still joke about when this exact logic was put to use by Anthony over at OA.com.

Let's not turn Mikeyboy into Froy 2009, ok?

Please tell me you agree that the relationship Ron and Fez have had with this board is vastly different than the one O & A have had with theirs over the years.

If not, I don't know what to tell you.

[3Setsof10]

Guess what? I'd love to hear a comedy show rather than a daily psychoanalysis session.

How can you be surprised that frustration with the show might filter onto the board? You seem like a nice guy, and since I also suffer from mental illness I have a certain amount of empathy, but maybe you should be concerned about WHY you have been getting negative reactions and feedback.

I hate coming in late on these topics, but this is pretty interesting

A fan board doesn't always mean 100% fawning, and you're going to have to take the bad with the good

Less psychoanalysis would be nice, I agree

[TheMojoPin]

Please tell me you agree that the relationship Ron and Fez have had with this board is vastly different than the one O & A have had with theirs over the years.

If not, I don't know what to tell you.

Exactly. And there's obvious differences between talking about what's on the show or even being critical of people on it without resorting to needless personal attacks and trying to be as insulting as possible. If people want to offer a contrary opinion, they can easily do so without being a troll.

[styckx]

I hate coming in late on these topics, but this is pretty interesting

A fan board doesn't always mean 100% fawning, and you're going to have to take the bad with the good

Less psychoanalysis would be nice, I agree

Also, just cause you're a fan doesn't mean you're obligated to listen to every show, every replay, and every whatever, every single day, 52 weeks a year. I'm currently on a R&F "break". It wasn't doing it for me anymore, so I just turned it off for awhile.

Too much of anything will become redundant after while. Take a break, come back to it later, and it's as good as you remember it in most cases. O&A not so much but that's different forum.

[3Setsof10]

Very good point, fans aren't obligated to do anything

[Serpico1103]

Less psychoanalysis would be nice, I agree

It would be nice, and less insulting to the host. Unfortunately, when a large portion of every show is devoted to it, what can you expect.
Everyone involved shares some of the blame.

[3Setsof10]

It would be nice, and less insulting to the host. Unfortunately, when a large portion of every show is devoted to it, what can you expect.
Everyone involved shares some of the blame.

That was actually directed at the host, who really isn't in a position to psychoanalyze anyone else.

[thepaulo]

I think the show causes too much stress.

[TobyWong]

I find my real life lacks stress so I enjoy worrying about the show and ronfez.net

[Foster]

I find my real life lacks stress so I enjoy worrying about the show and ronfez.net

really, and you live in bellport?

[TobyWong]

yes, beautiful Long Island. Go Jets!

[disneyspy]

listenin to the replay,fez is about to go off on our poor chuck cuz of that fake caller

[TobyWong]

Chuck had it coming. I thought we have already agreed on this.

[Foster]

even though I don't know his voice, it was obviously not Chuckwagon that called at the beginning of the show. that guy went from saying "hi this is Chuckwagon" to "we eat each others asses" with no set up.

he was just a hack

[Gvac]

As outdated as they are, some of the things in the board's FAQ section still seem kinda reasonable.



If you're not a fan of the Ron & Fez show, you have no reason to be here. This is a fan site, not a place to bitch and moan about how much you dislike the show. If you have constructive criticism about a bit or spot, feel free to post that in feedback. Threads like "Ron & Fez suck co--" will be immediately removed/locked. • In an effort to maintain a comfortable atmosphere for the female community on this board, any threads considered too sexual/over-the-top will be immediately locked. For example, threads like "I want to lick Sweet Melissa's pu---", and so forth

[Meataball23]

I love the show and listen everyday, but I dont think this forum precludes anyone from voicing their opinion on it.

I think fez is really really funny, but I think this secret stuff has run its course and why cant I criticize? All talk show personalities and to a greater degree celebrities put themselves out there for people to talk about/debate/ask questions of/ listen to/buy stuff from...thats the whole point of it right?

Am I going to get kicked off the board for saying fez needs to end the secret? or talk during interviews? or stop vanishing from large parts of the show with his name on it?

I think fez is really funny and I dig the show as is, but I wouldnt want to see a site regulated to the point that we cant talk about/voice dislike of stuff.

[mikeyboy]

I love the show and listen everyday, but I dont think this forum precludes anyone from voicing their opinion on it.

I think fez is really really funny, but I think this secret stuff has run its course and why cant I criticize? All talk show personalities and to a greater degree celebrities put themselves out there for people to talk about/debate/ask questions of/ listen to/buy stuff from...thats the whole point of it right?

Am I going to get kicked off the board for saying fez needs to end the secret? or talk during interviews? or stop vanishing from large parts of the show with his name on it?

I think fez is really funny and I dig the show as is, but I wouldnt want to see a site regulated to the point that we cant talk about/voice dislike of stuff.

That's the thing. Criticism is one thing. Trolling and personal attack are entirely another. We're not in the business of forced positivity, but we are trying to take control to limit the latter behavior.

[GreatAmericanZero]

everything on messageboards always has to be an extreme. "we'll start taking care of the trolls".."oh so that means i can't have an opinion anymore and this place has to be a tea party where everyone is nice to eachother?"

people need to relax. I'm sure if anyone talks like an adult and is relatively honest without a weird obvious agenda they will be fine

[MacVittie]

I love the show and listen everyday, but I dont think this forum precludes anyone from voicing their opinion on it.

I think fez is really really funny, but I think this secret stuff has run its course and why cant I criticize? All talk show personalities and to a greater degree celebrities put themselves out there for people to talk about/debate/ask questions of/ listen to/buy stuff from...thats the whole point of it right?

Am I going to get kicked off the board for saying fez needs to end the secret? or talk during interviews? or stop vanishing from large parts of the show with his name on it?

I think fez is really funny and I dig the show as is, but I wouldnt want to see a site regulated to the point that we cant talk about/voice dislike of stuff.

I totally see where you're coming from. I don't agree with a lot of the fez hatred, but I understand it. Sometimes its hard to tell what is a bit and what isn't, but fez seems very hypocritical and childish at times. I know its radio, and I give him the benefit of the doubt most of the time, the show would be boring it everyone agreed, but I can see how some listeners might get tired of fez really quickly.

[Meataball23]

Im excited that three heavy hitters on the board responded to my post.

Goodtimes

[MacVittie]

Im excited that three heavy hitters on the board responded to my post.

Goodtimes

slow down there, the day I become a heavy hitter on this board is the day I need to get a life (no offense to mikeyboy or GAZ) :wink:

[Suspect Chin]

or talk during interviews?

If I had to guess, I would say that Ron explicitly tells everyone on the show to be silent during interviews.

[Blathering]

fez's outburst hours later didn't match the essentially two liner 40 minutes into the show. here's the transcript of the caller after the greeting: "i think this article's kind of interesting [article about young people hugging when greeting]. remember how you and i great each other when we eat each other's ass? ... huuuuuh?" that was the whole call. anyone could hear that what fez was really responding to later in the show was every person that ever mocked him, every shrink that failed him, every night he's home alone, every conversation he didn't spark up, every giggle at his expense, every time he failed himself, etc. or it was a catty moment bit gone stratospheric.

as far as people "analyzing" him on the internet - they are just continuing the conversation from the show. some shows talk about stocks, others about gardening, and r&f talk a lot about fez's therapy, childhood, misery and strife. and they talk a lot about homosexuality.

and what a paradoxical corner fez has worked himself into making an entire radio personality out of a gay character. i really wonder if the irony of his fortune and misfortune stemming from the same point is clear to him.


Talk about bombs of truth.

It is a sad state that Fez has slipped in to. I must say that it is certainly more amusing then crying jag Fez who wants to turn every conversation into why he feels whatever he feels. ( you lost the "poor fezzy" reaction after the 1000th breakdown )

At least the new over the top pissed off Fez is mildly humorous. His targets never deserve what they are getting particulary the raging jealous biatching at Dave's wife.

But in the end, Fez is no longer one half of a show. He has become a parody of himself not unlike Earl or that idiot Harry. Another sad freak in the show rather then Ronnie B's true partner.

Truth hurts Fezzy.... I still hope you get your head straight. But as a paying subcriber, I wish you would do it on your own time and try to remember that a large portion of your once huge fan base is tired of your mental instability....

That Joke is stale...:furious:

[Foster]

If I had to guess, I would say that Ron explicitly tells everyone on the show to be silent during interviews.

I don't think he does that; I always thought that because Ron is great at interviews nobody wants to interfere with his flow.

[Suspect Chin]

I don't think he does that; I always thought that because Ron is great at interviews nobody wants to interfere with his flow.

Could you imagine if Dave interrupted Ron's interview with Todd Phillips to ask what it was like to work with so and so? Even if it was a valid question, Ron would destroy him after the guest left.

[Serpico1103]

I don't think he does that; I always thought that because Ron is great at interviews nobody wants to interfere with his flow.

In the past, I think Fez didn't interrupt because he usually doesn't have much to add to the interviews. But now, since they use them for RBIs I think it is more of a conscious effort, otherwise they have to edit around the other person.

[hydee]

That's the thing. Criticism is one thing. Trolling and personal attack are entirely another. We're not in the business of forced positivity, but we are trying to take control to limit the latter behavior.

So if I wanted to start a thread, discussing how I feel Casey is more part of David career and work life, then anyone one wants to admit that would be a welcomed discussion and I wouldn't be called a troll, or thought of as starting trouble with a beloved board member?

I don't think that is true. I wouldn't even get it posted before I was called a troll or told I was trying to start trouble. When in fact I really want to have an honest upfront dialog about the subject.

I think there are rules on this board that are unspoken that need a bit more flexibility if you want this place to run smoothly. I love it here but know I have to limit what I talk about simply because I already know that I won't get anywhere with an actual conversation about certain topics. You are branded a troll and the thread turns nasty with pic posts or negative comments alluding to just how trollish people think you are.

[GreatAmericanZero]

So if I wanted to start a thread, discussing how I feel Casey is more part of David career and work life, then anyone one wants to admit that would be a welcomed discussion and I wouldn't be called a troll, or thought of as starting trouble with a beloved board member?

I don't think that is true. I wouldn't even get it posted before I was called a troll or told I was trying to start trouble. When in fact I really want to have an honest upfront dialog about the subject.

I think there are rules on this board that are unspoken that need a bit more flexibility if you want this place to run smoothly. I love it here but know I have to limit what I talk about simply because I already know that I won't get anywhere with an actual conversation about certain topics. You are branded a troll and the thread turns nasty with pic posts or negative comments alluding to just how trollish people think you are.

i think the thread topic "Casey is more part of David's Career and work life" is a shitty trolly thread. And what need is there to post it anyway? What satisfaction or fulfillment in your life could it possibly lead to?

This is the site read by the show's staff and family. we can't sit here and pretend that doesn't exist. And we shouldn't. Spreadtheiris or wackbag would be more than happy to welcome such a thread. But anyone whose been around knows that such a thread could only lead to nasty shit and that such a thread would have been started on the intention to start nasty shit

[Death Metal Moe]

I have yet to see anyone branded a "troll" who didn't deserve it. You can totally feel the intent of the poster through the thread or reply. I think there has been A LOT of slack given to everyone and as Mikeyboy admitted, too much was given to the troll posters.

You don't have to grovel to Ron and Fez just be aware of where you are posting criticism. On THEIR fanboard. If I went to a Hoo Hoo Howie message board and talked about how I hate him 1. I know the passionate fans would have something to say and 2. Why am I even there? I don't like the show.

There is still going to be a place for the fans of the show with honest concerns to voice them here on Ronfez.net, even after we rape, torture, kill and again rape all trolls.

[Ritalin]

I have yet to see anyone branded a "troll" who didn't deserve it. You can totally feel the intent of the poster through the thread or reply. I think there has been A LOT of slack given to everyone and as Mikeyboy admitted, too much was given to the troll posters.

You don't have to grovel to Ron and Fez just be aware of where you are posting criticism. On THEIR fanboard. If I went to a Hoo Hoo Howie message board and talked about how I hate him 1. I know the passionate fans would have something to say and 2. Why am I even there? I don't like the show.

There is still going to be a place for the fans of the show with honest concerns to voice them here on Ronfez.net, even after we rape, torture, kill and again rape all trolls.

He likes rape.

[underdog]

But as a paying subcriber, I wish you would do it on your own time and try to remember that a large portion of your once huge fan base is tired of your mental instability....

That Joke is stale...:furious:

Why do so many people think they speak for a large group they know nothing about?

I think there are rules on this board that are unspoken that need a bit more flexibility if you want this place to run smoothly. I love it here but know I have to limit what I talk about simply because I already know that I won't get anywhere with an actual conversation about certain topics. You are branded a troll and the thread turns nasty with pic posts or negative comments alluding to just how trollish people think you are.

People keep bringing stuff up similar to this. Where has this happened? I don't see it, unless someone is just being a dick and then everyone responds in kind.

[Death Metal Moe]

He likes rape.

I'm a Black Belt in Ronnie B's Rape Prevention Prevention course.

[hydee]

i think the thread topic "Casey is more part of David's Career and work life" is a shitty trolly thread. And what need is there to post it anyway? What satisfaction or fulfillment in your life could it possibly lead to?

This is the site read by the show's staff and family. we can't sit here and pretend that doesn't exist. And we shouldn't. Spreadtheiris or wackbag would be more than happy to welcome such a thread. But anyone whose been around knows that such a thread could only lead to nasty shit and that such a thread would have been started on the intention to start nasty shit

Because there are family members that are just family members that you never hear about in both the Ron and Fez show and Opie and Anthony. It wasn't until this year that I even knew Opie's wife name and I don't know anything what so ever about Ron's wife. I think once you become part of the circus and open your lives up much like Anthony and Melinda did and Dave and Casey have there is room for discussions about Melinda and Casey that shouldn't be off limits because they are just part of it.

Do we get personal and talk about reproductive rights and birth control no but discussing them in regards to the shows, isn't stepping out of line at all it's to be expected and to stifle conversations that are not started with malice in mind is just censorship is support of people you like and that is why fan sites like this one are hard to maneuver in.

[hydee]

NVM I asked my question and I got my answer

[GreatAmericanZero]

Because there are family members that are just family members that you never hear about in both the Ron and Fez show and Opie and Anthony. It wasn't until this year that I even knew Opie's wife name and I don't know anything what so ever about Ron's wife. I think once you become part of the circus and open your lives up much like Anthony and Melinda did and Dave and Casey have there is room for discussions about Melinda and Casey that shouldn't be off limits because they are just part of it.

Do we get personal and talk about reproductive rights and birth control no but discussing them in regards to the shows, isn't stepping out of line at all it's to be expected and to stifle conversations that are not started with malice in mind is just censorship is support of people you like and that is why fan sites like this one are hard to maneuver in.

but why does everything have to be so in the "rules". Casey posts here and many of us like her and when someone on the board takes a shit on her it upsets alot of people here. When people dissect her and dave's relationship like they are "in the know" it weirds many of us out and we speak up. Basically, starting a thread like you suggested, would do nothing constructive and just start an inconvenient nasty discussion. But, you can go to wackbag and spreadtheiris and have a field day

you can't control things like this...its just the way it is. So is it worth getting the board fed up and an angry place because you have made it logical in your mind that it should be allowed? Sometimes you just have to be observant and respectful because it makes the board a better place. And at the end of the day, who really gives a fuck what anyone's brilliant theories are on dave & casey's relationship? They will keep living the life they want to lead anyway

[paulisded]

I think once you become part of the circus and open your lives up much like Anthony and Melinda did and Dave and Casey have there is room for discussions about Melinda and Casey that shouldn't be off limits because they are just part of it.

What about just having a bit of class?

[bostonronandfezfan]

radio legend say what?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????



love you fezzie

[Meataball23]

Back to the interview thing, Im glad no one talks during them - Ron is the best interviewer Ive heard on television or radio.

I was just trying to list things that fez on his own show doesnt do, or what people could gripe with.

The point was made earlier that fez couldnt have backed himself into a worse corner and I think thats absolutely true. He portrays a gay character and ardently defends every gay position but freaks out when people continue that conversation. Not everyone can continue that conversation in a funny manner, but thats probably why no one else has their own radio show....or satellite radio show.

Fez should chill. Or not chill. Either way, Im suped to hear the show tomorrow.

Also Fez needs to end the secret.

[MacVittie]

What about just having a bit of class?

dude, this is the internet. class went out the window a looooooong time ago.

[3Setsof10]

Self moderation always helps

[mikeyboy]

Self moderation always helps

Yep.

[TobyWong]

Self moderation always helps

Helps what?

[3Setsof10]

Helps what?

Helps avoid people making complete asses of themselves

Thinking before they post...or before going on a stupid rant on a radio show

[lleeder]

Self moderation always helps

Yep.

Do you infract yourself?

[mikeyboy]

Do you infract yourself?

That's a personal question.

[cpnthrfan]

Keep up the good work Fez

[CruelCircus]

Please tell me you agree that the relationship Ron and Fez have had with this board is vastly different than the one O & A have had with theirs over the years.

If not, I don't know what to tell you.

Of course! But that's my whole point.
You seem to be suggesting that change to a more O&A way of doing things.

[Gvac]

Of course! But that's my whole point.
You seem to be suggesting that change to a more O&A way of doing things.

No, I'm suggesting the posters don't switch to a more antagonistic stance a la O&A fans.

The reason Ron and Fez always had a good relationship with this place is because everyone here was a fan and friend of the show.

[thepaulo]

Do you infract yourself?

Getting infracted makes me feel wanted.

[BlackOutEarl]

Today when Chuckwagon called, I was having a good day and a good show. From what I read here, that's what everyone wants from me. So when does it happens, what does he do? He calls in to try to derail the show, the topic and me.

Man up Fez.

The pathetic, easily derailed, bad day, bad show routine is old. You have no one to blame but yourself buddy, stop living in that closed dark place where reality is gone as long as you never say it.

It's not healthy (mentally).

PS

Fire the shrink.

[BlackOutEarl]

That's the thing. Criticism is one thing. Trolling and personal attack are entirely another. We're not in the business of forced positivity, but we are trying to take control to limit the latter behavior.

That leads to your forum becoming a tool of the (crybaby) host that wants only positive and no opinion or reality (see wackbag).

[epo]

Man up Fez.

The pathetic, easily derailed, bad day, bad show routine is old. You have no one to blame but yourself buddy, stop living in that closed dark place where reality is gone as long as you never say it.

It's not healthy (mentally).

PS

Fire the shrink.

Speaking of shrinking, shrink your signature pic to the allowable 100 X 300, this ain't Wackbag.

[yojimbo7248]

That leads to your forum becoming a tool of the (crybaby) host that wants only positive and no opinion or reality (see wackbag).

I get the feeling you will be on vacation soon. too much negativity toward Fez.

[mikeyboy]

That leads to your forum becoming a tool of the (crybaby) host that wants only positive and no opinion or reality (see wackbag).

No it doesn't. Criticism is fine. It's the type of behavior you are exhibiting right now that will be curbed. This board allows discourse and criticism, but there's no need to be an asshole about it. So stop.

[sink]

No it doesn't. Criticism is fine. It's the type of behavior you are exhibiting right now that will be curbed. This board allows discourse and criticism, but there's no need to be an asshole about it. So stop.

I'm one of the biggest opponents of curbing peoples posts and I agree with Mikey, you are just being an insufferable dick. I know, b/c I myself am a dickhead, this is not the board for you if you want to just be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole.

Trust me, I walk the line, but yes, there is a line.

[Hottub]

http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2008/08/johnny-cash.jpg

[GreatAmericanZero]

That leads to your forum becoming a tool of the (crybaby) host that wants only positive and no opinion or reality (see wackbag).

but what if there are people who want to go to a website thats a "tool of the host". A place that the hosts have fun with and the people have fun with the show...thats such a bad thing? I would rather spend my time with that than reading some internet guy's posts about how the show isn't as funny as it used to be and anyone who disagrees are assholes. Thats not fun at all

I don't understand the satisfaction of someone feeling like they have to be the one to "step up and tell us sheep how it all really is!" Its a comedy radio show that goes into some really silly humor...i don't understand why people make it into such a serious thing. I don't understand this "i have to have messageboard honor by standing up and telling everyone this brilliant theory that only i have come up wtih about Dave & Casey's marraige". Its fucking weird and I don't know why people can't laugh at the show and the board. I don't know why the show is comedy and the board has to be a "who can tell it like it really is" contest

also, there are many sites filled with people who "tell it like it really is". No one I know really reads them because its fucking boring and lame, but they are all there for every single person to post on

[sink]

http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2008/08/johnny-cash.jpg

I know you lock threads and are overbearing b/c you HURT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

[BlackOutEarl]

Please tell me you agree that the relationship Ron and Fez have had with this board is vastly different than the one O & A have had with theirs over the years.

If not, I don't know what to tell you.

The relationship O&A have with their fans has turned retarded, look at that board. None of the "fans" even pay for subscriptions and all they do is bash the new company and invite others not to buy the product.

O&A started out as every man and now they are the Howard Stern type gag order fags and control freaks they made fun of for years.

It's bizarro world.

[sink]

The relationship O&A have with their fans has turned retarded, look at that board. None of the "fans" even pay for subscriptions and all they do is bash the new company and invite others not to buy the product.

O&A started out as every man and now they are the Howard Stern type gag order fags and control freaks they made fun of for years.

It's bizarro world.

You spit or swallow?

[ToiletCrusher]

Hasn't this been settled yet?

[sink]

Hasn't this been settled yet?

Was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

[hydee]

What about just having a bit of class?

How much class do you want me to have I basically asked permission to post a thread and then discussed why or why not the thread was worth it. I got my answer and I moved on.

I can't be any better of a poster then what I did so I don't think I am lacking in class at all. Maybe SOME people should be a bit less sensitive.

[ToiletCrusher]

Was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

You know, I'd like to see where this goes.

[paulisded]

How much class do you want me to have I basically asked permission to post a thread and then discussed why or why not the thread was worth it. I got my answer and I moved on.

I can't be any better of a poster then what I did so I don't think I am lacking in class at all. Maybe SOME people should be a bit less sensitive.

I'm not saying you don't have any class. I was referring to the examples you gave.

[styckx]

What amazes me is so many people rallying for something *they* want when it's been made perfectly clear it's not happening. This isn't a democracy.

[paulisded]

What amazes me is so many people rallying for something *they* want when it's been made perfectly clear it's not happening. This isn't a democracy.

Maybe instead of worrying and debating what should or shouldn't be posted, everybody should just go back to actually posting interesting stuff.

[hydee]

I'm not saying you don't have any class. I was referring to the examples you gave.

But my examples were not even negative, my examples were passive almost. I asked about a certain aspect of the show that I wanted to discuss. I didn't even bring up specific instances that I could have.

The more time I spend here the more I realize that this is a fan site for people to be fans of themselves and of the family they built here, it's not a place to critically examine the show (as in all aspects of it from relationships to bits that you like or don't like) like you could on a LOST Or BSG or Buffy fansite.

The closeness that you guys have built is wonderful and commendable but limits people that don't need or want to be part of the board in that way.

[Evolved]

The relationship O&A have with their fans has turned retarded, look at that board. None of the "fans" even pay for subscriptions and all they do is bash the new company and invite others not to buy the product.

O&A started out as every man and now they are the Howard Stern type gag order fags and control freaks they made fun of for years.

It's bizarro world.

So does this mean you've stopped posting on wackbag? :clap:

[underdog]

The closeness that you guys have built is wonderful and commendable but limits people that don't need or want to be part of the board in that way.

Then find another board to post on.

If you don't like the closeness this board has with the hosts and their families, then don't post here.

[Evolved]

Then find another board to post on.

If you don't like the closeness this board has with the hosts and their families, then don't post here.

And there's the elitist rf.net attitude we all know and love. This site has been ripped repeatedly on air for months now and yet you want to claim to have a "closeness" with the hosts and their families. That's fantastic. Ron said on air that he hasn't read any threads on here in a long time. How's that for "closeness".


Also, it's great how you look down on other boards as if that really helps the overall community. There are how many threads now talking about the direction that this site has taken and that it should be blown up yet for some reason you still feel superior. It's hilarious.

[ChrisTheCop]

I see nothing wrong with having pride in the board you post on.

If you're on a board you're not proud of, you should indeed leave and find one more suitable to your needs.

[hydee]

Then find another board to post on.

If you don't like the closeness this board has with the hosts and their families, then don't post here.


I didn't say I didn't like it or that it was wrong I said it was wonderful and commendable, as a matter of fact I think it's fairly awesome.

I just feel that if a board is advertised on XM/Siruis as the place to go to talk about the show then that is what you should be able to do with out dealing with personal feelings of the mods or the family members that might or might not read the board.

When you see advertisement at the end of LOST or the end of The Office for the website to go and discuss what you have just seen there is no caveat about not talking about certain things because Matthew fox's mom might read the board or that Steve Carrell's wife might read the board.

The sad thing is that I don't know if Ron and Fez have a place like a Lost fan board that is about the show and not about the people that run the board or post on the board and that is kind of sad because the show takes a back seat, and new fans and fans that aren't apart of the board family get left out in the cold.

[disneyspy]

And there's the elitist rf.net attitude we all know and love. This site has been ripped repeatedly on air for months now and yet you want to claim to have a "closeness" with the hosts and their families. That's fantastic. Ron said on air that he hasn't read any threads on here in a long time. How's that for "closeness".


i was the guy that used to IM with ron and he was rippin when it came to readin the board.he does read the board,he was just busy with the grand jury thing(i made a spy report about it)you might want to get the facts straight. i'm sorry i havent spoke out sooner against these kind of posts,but i was sensitive about sayin what i knew after taking some flack from him

[underdog]

And there's the elitist rf.net attitude we all know and love. This site has been ripped repeatedly on air for months now and yet you want to claim to have a "closeness" with the hosts and their families. That's fantastic. Ron said on air that he hasn't read any threads on here in a long time. How's that for "closeness".


Also, it's great how you look down on other boards as if that really helps the overall community. There are how many threads now talking about the direction that this site has taken and that it should be blown up yet for some reason you still feel superior. It's hilarious.

I wasn't being an "elitist" and I wasn't even really telling hydee to leave. But hydee brought up people not liking the closeness that this board has with the hosts and their family, so why would you try to change that? If that's your feeling, go somewhere else.

Also, try reading other posts before commenting on mine. Then, you'd realize I didn't bring up the idea of a closeness this board has. I was just commenting on something someone else had said.

And if people don't like the "elitist" attitude here, then go away. Seriously. Again, why waste time trying to change it? I didn't like the overall attitude on wackbag. You know what I did? I stopped posting. They don't owe me shit. If I don't like their attitude, I'll just go somewhere else. Not sit there and bitch about how the board is run and how I can't make fun of lobster girl.

[hydee]

I wasn't being an "elitist" and I wasn't even really telling hydee to leave. But hydee brought up people not liking the closeness that this board has with the hosts and their family, so why would you try to change that? If that's your feeling, go somewhere else.

Also, try reading other posts before commenting on mine. Then, you'd realize I didn't bring up the idea of a closeness this board has. I was just commenting on something someone else had said.

I didn't say people didn't like the closeness, I said that, that closeness limits what people can talk about. Those are 2 entire different things.

[Evolved]

I see nothing wrong with having pride in the board you post on.

If you're on a board you're not proud of, you should indeed leave and find one more suitable to your needs.

I wasn't being an "elitist" and I wasn't even really telling hydee to leave. But hydee brought up people not liking the closeness that this board has with the hosts and their family, so why would you try to change that? If that's your feeling, go somewhere else.

Also, try reading other posts before commenting on mine. Then, you'd realize I didn't bring up the idea of a closeness this board has. I was just commenting on something someone else had said.

And if people don't like the "elitist" attitude here, then go away. Seriously. Again, why waste time trying to change it? I didn't like the overall attitude on wackbag. You know what I did? I stopped posting. They don't owe me shit. If I don't like their attitude, I'll just go somewhere else. Not sit there and bitch about how the board is run and how I can't make fun of lobster girl.
Having pride is one thing but talking negatively, taking shots at other boards and an over all superior attitude is something different. I see no reason why we can't all interact together.

i was the guy that used to IM with ron and he was rippin when it came to readin the board.he does read the board,he was just busy with the grand jury thing(i made a spy report about it)you might want to get the facts straight. i'm sorry i havent spoke out sooner against these kind of posts,but i was sensitive about sayin what i knew after taking some flack from him

"these kinds of posts"? What's that supposed to mean?

[disneyspy]

Having pride is one thing but talking negatively, taking shots at other boards and an over all superior attitude is something different. I see no reason why we can't all interact together.



"these kinds of posts"? What's that supposed to mean?

theres been alot the last week sayin ron doesnt read the board and thats simply not true

[underdog]

I didn't say I didn't like it or that it was wrong I said it was wonderful and commendable, as a matter of fact I think it's fairly awesome.

I just feel that if a board is advertised on XM/Siruis as the place to go to talk about the show then that is what you should be able to do with out dealing with personal feelings of the mods or the family members that might or might not read the board.

When you see advertisement at the end of LOST or the end of The Office for the website to go and discuss what you have just seen there is no caveat about not talking about certain things because Matthew fox's mom might read the board or that Steve Carrell's wife might read the board.

But there's a huge difference between how Ron, Fez, Chris Tanley and the Rest deal with their fans and how LOST and The Office do.

The sad thing is that I don't know if Ron and Fez have a place like a Lost fan board that is about the show and not about the people that run the board or post on the board and that is kind of sad because the show takes a back seat, and new fans and fans that aren't apart of the board family get left out in the cold.

To get accepted into the "family" here is pretty easy. It's just that so many posters feel the need to make their first posts really aggressive, and usually against someone from the show. Of course they get shouted down by everyone else on the fan message board of the show.

[underdog]

I didn't say people didn't like the closeness, I said that, that closeness limits what people can talk about. Those are 2 entire different things.

Sorry. I misunderstood your post.

Having pride is one thing but talking negatively, taking shots at other boards and an over all superior attitude is something different. I see no reason why we can't all interact together.

I'm not trying to take negative shots at other boards, but they're all different. They do interact together, for the most part.

[mikeyboy]

I didn't say I didn't like it or that it was wrong I said it was wonderful and commendable, as a matter of fact I think it's fairly awesome.

I just feel that if a board is advertised on XM/Siruis as the place to go to talk about the show then that is what you should be able to do with out dealing with personal feelings of the mods or the family members that might or might not read the board.

When you see advertisement at the end of LOST or the end of The Office for the website to go and discuss what you have just seen there is no caveat about not talking about certain things because Matthew fox's mom might read the board or that Steve Carrell's wife might read the board.

The sad thing is that I don't know if Ron and Fez have a place like a Lost fan board that is about the show and not about the people that run the board or post on the board and that is kind of sad because the show takes a back seat, and new fans and fans that aren't apart of the board family get left out in the cold.

Okay, here's the difference as I see it. If someone ran a Lost message board, I think it would be entirely reasonable to restrict discussion to the show itself and not the personal lives of the actors, writers and producers. We've always taken the approach that the personal lives of the people on the show that aren't brought up on the air isn't proper for the board. I know that some boards are not that restrictive, but that's always the approach we've taken.

I will admit that the Dave & Casey stuff blurs the line a bit because Dave brings a lot of really personal stuff up on the air. We try to be fair with this fact in mind, but it's a little harder line to draw. Ultimately, Casey is a member of this board, and she rarely is on the air, so we may err on the side of not allowing discussions of her personal life, especially when it's the type of thread that striker started last week dictating what the two of them should do what their lives. Ultimately, these are real people, and stuff that may be fun on the air, may cross our line. It has a lot to do with respect. If you really want to discuss these types of issues, there are other boards where you can do that.

[Evolved]

theres been alot the last week sayin ron doesnt read the board

Well when the site is openly trashed on air for weeks at a time don't you see how one leads to another?

Also, so what if Ron doesn't read the board? Sure it would be nice if he did participate but it's not the end of the world if he doesn't. You can't live your life constantly trying to please others.

Any posts by Fez are followed with the usual ass kissing anyway so does having them on the site really make that much of a difference? I'd say no. It's not like Fez has become part of the "community" and posts on any type of a regular basis or participates in threads not created by or involving himself.

Anthony used to post on wackbag but doesn't anymore. The only differnce now is that you don't have to read the obligitory starfucker posts where they quote the "star" and say how right he was or how great he is.

Personally I prefer that the "talent" doesn't post on message boards. 1. I'd like to think their above all this. 2. I don't think members should have to walk on egg shells around said talent.

[Furtherman]

Matthew Fox beats his wife!

[mikeyboy]

Matthew Fox beats his wife!

:banning:

[ChrisTheCop]

Matthew Fox beats his wife!

lol. that reminds me of the time a frend of mine and I were at strawberry field and all the hippies were loving lennon...and he says loudly, "it's weird when you think he beat his 1st wife" and I say 'what?' and he says "oh yeah... he was a wife beater...messed her up pretty good, then he'd go and write a song about it..."

[disneyspy]

you know why so many women are victims of spousal abuse?


CUZ THEY JUST DONT FUCKIN LISTEN!!!

[GreatAmericanZero]

Okay, here's the difference as I see it. If someone ran a Lost message board, I think it would be entirely reasonable to restrict discussion to the show itself and not the personal lives of the actors, writers and producers. We've always taken the approach that the personal lives of the people on the show that aren't brought up on the air isn't proper for the board. I know that some boards are not that restrictive, but that's always the approach we've taken.

I will admit that the Dave & Casey stuff blurs the line a bit because Dave brings a lot of really personal stuff up on the air. We try to be fair with this fact in mind, but it's a little harder line to draw. Ultimately, Casey is a member of this board, and she rarely is on the air, so we may err on the side of not allowing discussions of her personal life, especially when it's the type of thread that striker started last week dictating what the two of them should do what their lives. Ultimately, these are real people, and stuff that may be fun on the air, may cross our line. It has a lot to do with respect. If you really want to discuss these types of issues, there are other boards where you can do that.

i don't think theres nothing wrong with boards developing feelings toward subject matters that may not be in the rules but is what a lot of people believe in

Maybe in the perfect world since casey and dave's relationship is on the show then it shouldnt be a big deal...but thats looking at the way things should be and not the way things are. The way things are is that a lot of us like Dave & Casey and have a respect for that relationship on this board. Other boards, not so much. Whether its "bannable" or not, people trying to discuss it in a weird way will get a negative backlash against them

And I think every board has something like that to some degree. Maybe on Spreadtheiris you can get banned for giving out a swedish meatball recipe because they believe all meatballs should be italian (like Ma used to make, fughettaboutit). But on ronfez.net you can post any meatball recipe you want. I just don't find anything wrong with a board developing a personality and i think that people should respect that thats how the people want it to be rather than trying to fight it all the time

[paulisded]

Maybe on Spreadtheiris you can get banned for giving out a swedish meatball recipe because they believe all meatballs should be italian (like Ma used to make, fughettaboutit). But on ronfez.net you can post any meatball recipe you want.

Now that made me laugh.

[CruelCircus]

I've said it hundreds of times before but I'll say it again - the very fact that this site has the names of the hosts (and the show) in its title means it has a certain responsibility to them. It's not "IveGotTwoRadioShows.com" or "DontMakeYouABadPerson.net" it's "RonFez.net." That should mean something

I've long argued that it should enjoy an almost symbiotic relationship with the show.


No, I'm suggesting the posters don't switch to a more antagonistic stance a la O&A fans.

The reason Ron and Fez always had a good relationship with this place is because everyone here was a fan and friend of the show.

No, you suggested that the hosts should have a say in how this place is run b/c their names are in the title. That's what I referred to as the "O&A way." That's what I disagreed with.

I wouldn't have disagreed if you had written the part about antagonistic posters.

Look, you know me, I never post negative stuff about anybody, and I'm always very positive about the show. I just believe it's a bad idea for the board and for the show if the on-air staff (Dave included) gets involved in regulating the content of the board, directly or indirectly.

The issue of respect BY the posters is a different one, and I agree that we should be considerate and "classy" when talking about other people. But that's largely a self-policing issue, and part of being a functioning, social human being. You walk around in real life acting like an asshole to everyone, then you're going to wind up being shunned. The same applies on a message board.

[CruelCircus]

i don't think theres nothing wrong with boards developing feelings toward subject matters that may not be in the rules but is what a lot of people believe in

Maybe in the perfect world since casey and dave's relationship is on the show then it shouldnt be a big deal...but thats looking at the way things should be and not the way things are. The way things are is that a lot of us like Dave & Casey and have a respect for that relationship on this board. Other boards, not so much. Whether its "bannable" or not, people trying to discuss it in a weird way will get a negative backlash against them

And I think every board has something like that to some degree. Maybe on Spreadtheiris you can get banned for giving out a swedish meatball recipe because they believe all meatballs should be italian (like Ma used to make, fughettaboutit). But on ronfez.net you can post any meatball recipe you want. I just don't find anything wrong with a board developing a personality and i think that people should respect that thats how the people want it to be rather than trying to fight it all the time

That's not a bad point at all, but how do you judge who "the people" are?

Putting aside Dave & Casey and speaking generally, how do you know which side of the "personality" you are on? You're making some assumptions in your post based on your personal feelings on an issue. They may be valid, but what if they're not? What if you're in a vast minority on an issue and the board's true "personality" is not what you think it is because you're biased?
Is the personality determined by the mods & admins, the people with most posts, the people who've been here the longest, the hosts, the people who post the "loudest", the majority of posters, or the sum total of all the posts?
What's wrong with simply allowing "negative backlash", as you described it, be a proper social policing force for the board? Friends defending friends doesn't sound so terrible.

[paulisded]

That's not a bad point at all, but how do you judge who "the people" are?

Putting aside Dave & Casey and speaking generally, how do you know which side of the "personality" you are on? You're making some assumptions in your post based on your personal feelings on an issue. They may be valid, but what if they're not? What if you're in a vast minority on an issue and the board's true "personality" is not what you think it is because you're biased?
Is the personality determined by the mods & admins, the people with most posts, the people who've been here the longest, the hosts, the people who post the "loudest", the majority of posters, or the sum total of all the posts?
What's wrong with simply allowing "negative backlash", as you described it, be a proper social policing force for the board? Friends defending friends doesn't sound so terrible.

I think it takes nothing more than common sense. I'm on another message board devoted to a musician who will remain nameless but will probably be easy to decipher. On this board, we have heated (yet friendly) debates on the merits of everything he's ever recorded, his reluctance to tour or reunite with his old band, and even the types of guitars he uses. His wife also used to be in a band, but since they married has for the most part remained in the background until she released a book last year. As with the husband, the quality of her book was debated for weeks. Not once during the decade or so I've been on the board, has the owner had to come in and throw out infractions or give somebody the boot. This is because everybody involved used their brains a bit. Expressing disappointment over a bad song or stating that a book wasn't worth buying is fine; speculating on whether the artist is drinking again or calling the wife hurtful names is obviously not.

Why can't it be the same here? Discussing the topics on the show is fine, and there's nothing wrong with giving reasons why Ron, Fez, or Dave are wrong. But tossing out hurtful words about them as individual people is clearly crossing the line.

[CruelCircus]

Discussing the topics on the show is fine, and there's nothing wrong with giving reasons why Ron, Fez, or Dave are wrong. But tossing out hurtful words about them as individual people is clearly crossing the line.

Well summed up.

[GreatAmericanZero]

That's not a bad point at all, but how do you judge who "the people" are?

Putting aside Dave & Casey and speaking generally, how do you know which side of the "personality" you are on? You're making some assumptions in your post based on your personal feelings on an issue. They may be valid, but what if they're not? What if you're in a vast minority on an issue and the board's true "personality" is not what you think it is because you're biased?
Is the personality determined by the mods & admins, the people with most posts, the people who've been here the longest, the hosts, the people who post the "loudest", the majority of posters, or the sum total of all the posts?
What's wrong with simply allowing "negative backlash", as you described it, be a proper social policing force for the board? Friends defending friends doesn't sound so terrible.

you just gotta look around and see how things are done. By the 68th "can a redhead alcoholic raise a child?" thread is made and it gets the same disgusted reaction everytime...its the way things are

its just the way things go in life. Sometimes theres weird stuff in your family or co-workers that you don't discuss. I knew a guy in college whose mom died in 9/11 so we didn't even bring up 9/11 when he was hanging out but its no big deal talking about it with other people. Its just being perceptive of the way things are done

[CruelCircus]

you just gotta look around and see how things are done. By the 68th "can a redhead alcoholic raise a child?" thread is made and it gets the same disgusted reaction everytime...its the way things are

If 68 people start 68 threads, and 10 people react to each thread, the score is 68-10. (And that's assuming no one agrees with the thread starters.)

[Death Metal Moe]

This is simple.

I cannot remember a new memeber getting censored here accidentally, thinking he/she was a troll.

The reason is because it's simple to see the intent of the poster in their threads and replies.

I don't see how this is so fucking hard to get your head around. NO discussions will be censored. NO topics will be off limits.

But..

The scumbags who just want to come in to stir shit and take shots at the show will be attacked back and hopefully shown the door.

It's fairly simple in my mind. We're going to keep this an honest, open site, but we're also going to keep it a "fan" site. Haters and trolls get impaled.

[3Setsof10]

As Bobby Knight once said, "If someone tell you that you're an asshole, don't listen to them. If they tell you WHY you're an asshole, then listen."

People should be considerate and respectful at all times, but not feel uncomfortable voicing their opinion.

[Death Metal Moe]

As Bobby Knight once said, "If someone tell you that you're an asshole, don't listen to them. If they tell you WHY you're an asshole, then listen."

People should be considerate and respectful at all times, but not feel uncomfortable voicing their opinion.

I would love to see "constructive" criticism. This new batch or trolls are just name calling, whining children stomping their feet. They attack and leave only to return when a new topic comes up on air that they can attack again.

It stops.

[styckx]

Can we ban the word troll please. Big difference between a troll and socially retarded people.

[3Setsof10]

I would love to see "constructive" criticism. This new batch or trolls are just name calling, whining children stomping their feet. They attack and leave only to return when a new topic comes up on air that they can attack again.

It stops.

See, you get it

[Death Metal Moe]

Can we ban the word troll please. Big difference between a troll and socially retarded people.

That is a very good point, I just use the word "troll" to sum these scumbags up quickly.

These people are socially retarded listeners who can't figure it out. I hate to tear down walls here but sometimes Ron and Fez take the opposite side of an argument JUST TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING and eventually throw it to the phones to include us. Don't be so fucking critical of Ron or Fez for not agreeing with you, they may have just taken the opposite side. How boring would it be if Ron said "Ya know somethin' Fez, I think pizza is great." Fez would say "I totally agree Ronnie, it's the best food out there." Then what? Next topic? They'd burn through a fucking entire encyclopedia's worth of topics at that rate.

Also, would all the social retards stop taking EVERYTHING you hear on the radio as 100% truth? Can you handle that request fucksticks? You think that just because the show folks share a lot of real life stuff with us that we hear everything the way it is all the time? It's an entertainment show, exaggerations are used, I'm sure. Again, to keep things going. Remember the whole "Fez vs. Elfish Betting Fiasco?" Stop being rubes.

Finally, why can't you just fucking listen sometimes? Just listen and enjoy. Leave the calls to more talented, smarter people than you and leave the posting to more talented, smarter people again.

I feel like I've typed this same rant like 20 times in the past few weeks. I'm gonna copy this into a document and just paste it in every thread like this.

[3Setsof10]

Can "troll" be filtered to "social retard" ?

[styckx]

I'm gonna copy this into a document and just paste it in every thread like this.

You could always start another new thread about it, it's all the rage lately.

[Death Metal Moe]

You could always start another new thread about it, it's all the rage lately.

I cannot become the thing I hate!

[Compliment-Guy]

It never ceases to amaze me at how wonderfully diverse all of the fans of Ron and Fez are! You are all equally passionate as well! Give yourselves a big round of applause for being so heartfelt and spirited!

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

It never ceases to amaze me at how wonderfully diverse all of the fans of Ron and Fez are! You are all equally passionate as well! Give yourselves a big round of applause for being so heartfelt and spirited!

Trip and fall face first into a landmine you asshole; this thread ain't about yer well wishin'.

[Compliment-Guy]

Trip and fall face first into a landmine you asshole; this thread ain't about yer well wishin'.

More passion! You are a true fan and a hearty supporter of Ron and Fez and this messageboard! I commend you!

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

More passion! You are a true fan and a hearty supporter of Ron and Fez and this messageboard! I commend you!

I pray for your death by magnesium fire. Only to try and put yourself with water, to fail miserbaly then attempt to out yourself with pure lithium. Regards :bye:

[CruelCircus]

Also, would all the social retards stop taking EVERYTHING you hear on the radio as 100% truth? Can you handle that request fucksticks? You think that just because the show folks share a lot of real life stuff with us that we hear everything the way it is all the time? It's an entertainment show, exaggerations are used, I'm sure. Again, to keep things going. Remember the whole "Fez vs. Elfish Betting Fiasco?" Stop being rubes.


Not the strongest argument.
If the stuff on the air isn't the real deal, there's even LESS reason to be bothered by people here being negative about it.

[TjM]

Not the strongest argument.
If the stuff on the air isn't the real deal, there's even LESS reason to be bothered by people here being negative about it.

Good point

[AKA]

Not the strongest argument.
If the stuff on the air isn't the real deal, there's even LESS reason to be bothered by people here being negative about it.


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[yojimbo7248]

Not the strongest argument.
If the stuff on the air isn't the real deal, there's even LESS reason to be bothered by people here being negative about it.

Good point. If this is like professional wrestling then we need the fagpunzels and strikers.

[Sue_Bender]

Good point. If this is like professional wrestling then we need the fagpunzels and strikers.


I'd like to strike a fagpunzel...

right in the queerzy hole.

[Death Metal Moe]

Not the strongest argument.
If the stuff on the air isn't the real deal, there's even LESS reason to be bothered by people here being negative about it.

The argument is fine, but I will elaborate for the dull.

No, it's even more pathetic to get THAT upset about things that well adjusted fans already know isn't the 100% truth.

We're not there, we have no idea what's truth, what's exaggeration and what's pure fiction. And what we hear on the air is a mixture of all 3 at different times. If you're sitting at home getting redfaced and retarded enough to bother to call in or log on and bash, you're a fucking idiot pure and simple. Emphasis on the simple.

[Death Metal Moe]

The people who do the hater call ins and troll this message board are the same breed of mouth breathers that yell at their TV when someone they don't agree with comes on FOX News.

Just morons. I really start to lose faith in the public as a whole when we start talking about topics like this because I fear the simpletons are the norm and I can't live in a word like that.

[Evolved]

The people who do the hater call ins and troll this message board are the same breed of mouth breathers that yell at their TV when someone they don't agree with comes on FOX News.

Just morons. I really start to lose faith in the public as a whole when we start talking about topics like this because I fear the simpletons are the norm and I can't live in a word like that.

Simpletons are the norm.

[lleeder]

When he called today it seemed like there was a bit meant to happen that didn't pan out. Did anyone catch the dropping of the ball?

[disneyspy]

When he called today it seemed like there was a bit meant to happen that didn't pan out. Did anyone catch the dropping of the ball?

shush,you'll ruin it

[RhinoinMN]

When he called today it seemed like there was a bit meant to happen that didn't pan out. Did anyone catch the dropping of the ball?

I'm pretty sure that the ball hit the floor through everybody's fingers first.

[drjoek]

When he called today it seemed like there was a bit meant to happen that didn't pan out. Did anyone catch the dropping of the ball?



Ron is just sick of you calling in.

[lleeder]

Ron is just sick of you calling in.

He has the option to drop the call if he chooses.

[walker]

He has the option to drop the call if he chooses.

You stink

[BlackSpider]

After hearing today's call,
I believe it's the same person that made the call that pissed off Fez...

[mikeyboy]

You stink

That's not the way to get a clean slate.

[BlackSpider]

That's not the way to get a clean slate.

It made me like him more...

[Annie Waits]

After hearing today's call,
I believe it's the same person that made the call that pissed off Fez...

actually even when chuck heard the soundboard chuck yesterday he thought it was himself....when the caller says "hey fezzie" it's pretty much the same voice, but after that it's not.

[Scott from the Future]

Can "troll" be filtered to "social retard" ?

I saw a social retard living under a bridge.

It works!

[weav]

Fez- do you think that any of the young WWE stars has the chops to be in the Flair, Hogan, or Austin class?

[Turtle]

Ban striker.
Ban turtle.

Proceed from there...

why?

[MadMatt]

why?

Don't take it personally - brett just dislikes Unions and Reptiles.

:smoke: