Chuckwagon's call

[fezfez]

Today when Chuckwagon called, I was having a good day and a good show. From what I read here, that's what everyone wants from me. So when does it happens, what does he do? He calls in to try to derail the show, the topic and me. That's crap. And so is every negative post about me and the show on this board. It's just people trying to draw some attention to themselves and they think they can get it by bringing me up. Forget it. I don't need to be analyzed by people who for the most part, I have never even met. And I love how people think they have so much insight in to me and Ron and our friendship. It's really getting ridiculous, so don't expect me to put up with it.

The name of the show is Ron & Fez. The name of this site is RonFez.net. I'm not going anywhere. People like Chuckwagon aren't gonna run me off my show and all the negativity isn't going to run me off this board. Sorry, not going to happen.

Everyone seems to be so concerned, but then every other thread is some derogatory comment about one thing or another. Everybody wants the old Fez, guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.

[biozombie]

Woooooooooooooooooooooo!

[disneyspy]

wasnt chuck and i liked the young fez

[biggestmexi]

you give it to him fez.

Give it to him hard.

right in the ass.

fuck him in his mouth!

there are people that support you on these boards.

[mikeyboy]

FWIW, Chuckwagon says it wasn't him.

[Gvac]

guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.

Careful, buddy.

People will accuse you of "longing for the old days" and being "unable to accept change" and things like that.

[codenhead]

Love you Fez. Thanks for entertaining me each day!

[drjoek]

Fez
You are the best

[weekapaugjz]

Fez Is Back!!!!!!!!

[Hottub]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e92n-YZL3Vs/SKA035AQFII/AAAAAAAAAH8/_De2FcLuVuI/s320/oh-snap.jpg

Also, Chuck was working today. Lots of fake callers anymore.

[Meataball23]

Today was awesome, everyone just wants the best for you...in their own way

Im not involved remotely but one idiots opinion is please cut dave and casey some slack

[drjoek]

FWIW, Chuckwagon says it wasn't him.



Chuck always seems to me to be a Fez Fan and NOT a hater so I will assume it wasn't him.

I agree with Fez enough of the BS already.

[Gvac]

P.S. - That was a fake lleeder that called today too.

[Highball]

Chuckwagoncook claims it wasn't him. I don't know if it is true or not, but maybe you should get the facts about it Fez. Anybody can call in to the show and claim to be anybody.

Look at recent calls from lleeder, Randy 307, toiletcrusher, and others that have not been the real people but used their names to get attention on the show.

Also, taking shots at his girlfriend is NOT cool. It's OK if you have a problem with Chuckwagoncook, but a man doesn't attack a guy's girl for no reason.

[Annie Waits]

Fez this is chuckwagon's fat girlfriend and i just want you to know that we love you, it wasn't even him who called, he was at work

we will listen to the replay this weekend cuz we haven't even heard the call yet!!

[tanless1]

fez may need some alone time w/ a bag of razors and a jug of lube..... might clear his head a little.

[Drunky McBetidont]

i think we need to go with passwords or pins for caller id's already. i hate the fake reillyluck, lleeder, and eli callers. now we have fake toilet crusher, randy, and chuckwagoncooks? we need security

[Tallman388]

i think we need to go with passwords or pins for caller id's already. i hate the fake reillyluck, lleeder, and eli callers. now we have fake toilet crusher and chuckwagoncooks? we need security

or better phone screeners.

[Meataball23]

or BIG ASS cards Part Deux

[lleeder]

Fez this is chuckwagon's fat girlfriend and i just want you to know that we love you, it wasn't even him who called, he was at work

we will listen to the replay this weekend cuz we haven't even heard the call yet!!

UH-OH, I hope chuckwagon's fat wife doesn't find out about his fat girlfriend.
:innocent:

[BlackSpider]

Chuck always seems to me to be a Fez Fan and NOT a hater so I will assume it wasn't him.

I agree with Fez enough of the BS already.




Heyyyyy...

[drjoek]

UH-OH, I hope chuckwagon's fat wife doesn't find out about his fat girlfriend.
:innocent:



Chucks a playa

[Arch Stanton]

Missed the show today.

Can one of you post the call here? That would probably prove it isn't Chuckwagon. Either way, whoever it was is not calling to add to the show, only derail it, and that is not what this show is about.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Missed the show today.

Can one of you post the call here? That would probably prove it isn't Chuckwagon. Either way, whoever it was is not calling to add to the show, only derail it, and that is not what this show is about.

arch is the best

[Devo37]

you tell 'em, Fezzie!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbup:

[ChrisTheCop]

I'm sorry that a listener who happens to be a member here has offended you Fez.
I'm also sorry that you've read things here that upset you.
Please know that the majority of posters here love what you and Ron give us every week
And that I personally don'tiss the old Fez. I'm just happy we have any Fez at all.
You make me laugh a lot. Thank you for that.

[AF Mike]

. ... Everybody wants the old Fez, guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.

What came first, the chicken or the egg ?

[DarkHippie]

I am glad that I am not important enough for people to fake call for me

[Tallman388]

Missed the show today.

Can one of you post the call here? That would probably prove it isn't Chuckwagon. Either way, whoever it was is not calling to add to the show, only derail it, and that is not what this show is about.

It's probably the same hilarious caller who tries impersonate different B.A.C. holders just to ask fezzie what cum tastes like. He makes me miss the Radio Shark.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

It wasn't me.

FYI- This stinks!!!!

I don't think you'll find a bigger Fezzie Fan than me. It just plain hurts.

[ChrisTheCop]

Wait. What? It wasn't even our guy??
Uh oh Fez...

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

Wait. What? It wasn't even our guy??
Uh oh Fez...
Do have access to a lie detector? I'll even take those talking pills they gave Sayid on Lost.

I havn't even heard the show today. I'll have to wait for the replay I quess.

[MadMatt]

Everybody wants the old Fez, guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.

Guess what? I'd love to hear a comedy show rather than a daily psychoanalysis session.

How can you be surprised that frustration with the show might filter onto the board? You seem like a nice guy, and since I also suffer from mental illness I have a certain amount of empathy, but maybe you should be concerned about WHY you have been getting negative reactions and feedback.

[docgoblin]

"I think think the world has become a hard and cruel place Mr. Marley... One must steal for oneself to survive it... Not be crushed under with the weak and infirmed..." - Ebineezer Scrooge, 'A Christmas Carol,' by Charles Dickens - 1843

Fez,

The world has always been a negative place. We need to create our own positive moments. You have an amazing gift to entertain and make people laugh. Your show helps us forget our troubles, if only for a few hours a day... It means the world to us!

SCREW THE HATERS THAT HAVE INFECTED THIS BOARD AND THE PHONES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS!

[Serpico1103]

Its tough. Since an angry Fez is incredibly funny, i.e. rant at Black Earl during week of silence, but I don't think it makes a happy Fez. Or maybe it does, letting out that angry at deserving targets.

[Sharadoc]

Hi Fez,

You are such a great entertainer, that people think they are "in your head" because you guys really give us an entertaining and enlightening show. I didn't think the call was anything but the caller being an a**hole. There was absolutely NO reflection back at you.

Some of those jerky callers really make me shake my head in disbelief. What are they getting out of it - proving they're a**holes? Guess that's it!

Love you!!!! :wub:

[Sarge]

I didn't hear the call, but like you said Fez, it's the Ron and Fez show. Screw 'em, if they don't want to listen, let them go somewhere else. I've listened to you guys since the dot com days and always thought you were great and always will. Give 'em hell Fez!

[CountryBob]

Will Fez try to determine if the caller was indeed a fake? Or will he believe that it was the real Chuckwagoncook blindly with out thinking that an imposter has possibly ruined a friendship? I cant wait to find out!

[yojimbo7248]

still no apology to CWC and Ledouski? I'm surprised Fez had the time to start this thread but not enough time to see if that really was Chuckwagoncook who called in. Even if it was him, attacking his wife was so unnecessary and wrong.

I am a big Fez fan. I remember hearing him for the first time on WJFK when I first moved to D.C. in 2001. I was immediately hooked and have loved listening to him ever since. I think he is hilarious, I love his personality, and I have been very sympathetic to his challenges coping with fears and his emotional challenges .

I also understand his frustration with the negativity on this messageboard, from callers, and listeners in general. Today, however, was disappointing. Fez, you are always going to have the people that seriously don't like you. It just seems sad that by blindly lashing out at them, you attack people that really like you like Chuckwagoncook and turn off many more of your fans in the process.

[thepaulo]

I'm sure we all remember the lovely picture of the real chuckwagon with the real fez at the famous turkey trot.
Death to fake Chuckwagon's and fake fez's

[Annie Waits]

I'm sure we all remember the lovely picture of the real chuckwagon with the real fez at the famous turkey trot.
Death to fake Chuckwagon's and fake fez's

Paulo who's the fat chick with you in your avatar? :bye:

[East Side Dave]

"It's so easy to complain......"

-Bob Dylan


Fez and I are having our differences and they still have not been mended but I love Fez and (hopefully, and this is a guess, he still likes me). So even though we do not see eye to eye on shit, I must say- you fuck with fez---you fuck with me. And vice versa. We're all striving for the best show possible. We might succeed, we might fail....but I'm sure as shit not gonna let this board that I've been a part of for 7 fucking years be destroyed by these new people who don't get the show or the board. I suggest the same to all of you who believe in positivity.

[Hottub]

"It's so easy to complain......"

-Bob Dylan


Fez and I are having our differences and they still have not been mended but I love Fez and (hopefully, and this is a guess, he still likes me). So even though we do not see eye to eye on shit, I must say- you fuck with fez---you fuck with me. And vice versa. We're all striving for the best show possible. We might succeed, we might fail....but I'm sure as shit not gonna let this board that I've been a part of for 7 fucking years be destroyed by these new people who don't get the show or the board. I suggest the same to all of you who believe in positivity.

Church.

Davey Mac. The hardest working man in radio!

[PanterA]

Everybody wants the old Fez, guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.im with you Fezzy! i loved the attitude today. Its time to show these people the real Fez Marie. The man who will punch you right in the ass and never apologize for it.

Get'm Fezzy!

[JerseyRich]

I wish JustJon would come back and fix all this.

He's good at fixing things.

[Gvac]

im with you Fezzy! i loved the attitude today. Its time to show these people the real Fez Marie. The man who will punch you right in the ass and never apologize for it.

Get'm Fezzy!

HOLY SHIT!

Look who found his way back!

Did they put up the bat signal for ya? :thumbdown:

[East Side Dave]

HOLY SHIT!

Look who found his way back!

Did they put up the bat signal for ya? :thumbdown:



Why so negative, G? You should be like the original 6 from hockey.

[JerseyRich]

People who don't really understand the undercurrents of this message board lately shouldn't really be commenting on it.

[PanterA]

HOLY SHIT!

Look who found his way back!

Did they put up the bat signal for ya? :thumbdown:nah, just showing some support for Fez. I like hearing his confidence, even if it was against the board.

[Gvac]

Why so negative, G? You should be like the original 6 from hockey.

I'm not negative, Dave.

Bobby has all but disappeared from this place. His involvement has been nil for MONTHS now.

All of a sudden he reappears and we're supposed to throw a party?

What next?

JustJon will stop Twittering long enough to log in once in awhile?

It's just frustrating, know what I mean?

[PanterA]

I'm not negative, Dave.

Bobby has all but disappeared from this place. His involvement has been nil for MONTHS now.

All of a sudden he reappears and we're supposed to throw a party?

What next?

JustJon will stop Twittering long enough to log in once in awhile?

It's just frustrating, know what I mean?where did I ask for a party? I'm just showing support brother. Let's not make this thread about anything else.

Thanks

[WampusCrandle]

"It's so easy to complain......"

-Bob Dylan


Fez and I are having our differences and they still have not been mended but I love Fez and (hopefully, and this is a guess, he still likes me). So even though we do not see eye to eye on shit, I must say- you fuck with fez---you fuck with me. And vice versa. We're all striving for the best show possible. We might succeed, we might fail....but I'm sure as shit not gonna let this board that I've been a part of for 7 fucking years be destroyed by these new people who don't get the show or the board. I suggest the same to all of you who believe in positivity.

this is just a great example of how loyal you are to Fez and how much of a great friend you are!

[drusilla]

fezzie we all love you for you just the way you are. don't let any of these fucking assholes get you down. they aren't worth your time or energy. they are just trying to make names for themselves (or steal other's who are already known) to make themselves feel special. they are a waste of your breath.

fuck em.

[Kerouac72]

"I'd love to see the old RonFez.net."
FACE!
Way to go Fez

[Gvac]

where did I ask for a party? I'm just showing support brother. Let's not make this thread about anything else.

Thanks

Whatever, Bobby.

The fact remains that for whatever reason, you and Jon have lost interest in RonFez.net.

That's fine.

People change.

People move on.

Just do the right thing and hand the reins over to some people who ARE still interested in making this place a good companion to the show. That's all I'm saying.

Ask mikeyboy how exhausted he is trying to run this place by himself since he's been abandoned.

I'm not going to be spoken to like a small child who doesn't know any better.

Sorry.

[moochcassidy]

Everybody wants the old Fez, guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.

To avoid an endless post that's gonna feed into all the negativity, all I have to say is this is not a place I like to come to any more.

Its shitty to say that, but fuck it, its a message board.

[Death Metal Moe]

I think the point is whoever is was who called to fuck with Fez today, you're fucking garbage. You're not a fan of the show, you're a fucking cunt. Plain and simple.

Hopefully you and your family all die soon so you can stop trying your best to ruin a show you obviously don't like but keep up with.

Go fuck yourself, your close friends, your family, your pets and everyone you've ever met.

[styckx]

I think the point is whoever is was who called to fuck with Fez today, you're fucking garbage. You're not a fan of the show, you're a fucking cunt. Plain and simple.

Hopefully you and your family all die soon so you can stop trying your best to ruin a show you obviously don't like but keep up with.

Go fuck yourself, your close friends, your family, your pets and everyone you've ever met.

Deducting 10 points for not mentioning aids, cancer, or highway abutments. So close, yet so far.

[PanterA]

Whatever, Bobby.

The fact remains that for whatever reason, you and Jon have lost interest in RonFez.net.

That's fine.

People change.

People move on.

Just do the right thing and hand the reins over to some people who ARE still interested in making this place a good companion to the show. That's all I'm saying.

Ask mikeyboy how exhausted he is trying to run this place by himself since he's been abandoned.

I'm not going to be spoken to like a small child who doesn't know any better.

Sorry.I'm not speaking to you like a child, just don't want to derail Fezzys thread.

[Death Metal Moe]

Deducting 10 points for not mentioning aids, cancer, or highway abutments. So close, yet so far.

O&A's show doesn't have the patent on wishing people dead my friend.

[underdog]

To avoid an endless post that's gonna feed into all the negativity, all I have to say is this is not a place I like to come to any more.

Its shitty to say that, but fuck it, its a message board.

I think it has a lot to do with the replay starting an hour later. All the 3am'ers are very negative.

[moochcassidy]

oopsie

[Friday]

fez was there for me when i was in a very dark place.
for that, i will be eternally grateful... and my loyalty will be forever on his side.
radio bits are fun ... but real life wins.

viva la fezzie!

[styckx]

oopsie

I saw what you did before ninja edit!!!!

btw, hiya mooch. :)

[PanterA]

all I have to say is this is not a place I like to come to any more. that sucks to hear.

To all those who kept saying "this place will never be the way it was" and "its a new show and a new site" and all that bullshit. Well look what you got.

[hammersavage]

We're turning a corner tonight. I can feel it.

[underdog]

oopsie

I miss mooch.

[Hottub]

fez was there for me when i was in a very dark place.
for that, i will be eternally grateful... and my loyalty will be forever on his side.
radio bits are fun ... but real life wins.

viva la fezzie!

Outstanding!
Thank you, Friday.

[moochcassidy]

I saw what you did before ninja edit!!!!

btw, hiya mooch. :)

yeah my big dramatic statement and I double post like an assmonkey

[drusilla]

yeah my big dramatic statement and I double post like an assmonkey

14 minutes apart too. that's impressive!

[grlNIN]

Whatever, Bobby.

The fact remains that for whatever reason, you and Jon have lost interest in RonFez.net.

That's fine.

People change.

People move on.

Just do the right thing and hand the reins over to some people who ARE still interested in making this place a good companion to the show. That's all I'm saying.

Ask mikeyboy how exhausted he is trying to run this place by himself since he's been abandoned.

I'm not going to be spoken to like a small child who doesn't know any better.

Sorry.


Gvac, i have never had any sort of problem with you and for a large part i have been reading your posts lately and just been taking them with a grain of salt. I believe this is the first time i have even made an attempt to address you on this matter but anyway...i don't quite know if what you're doing is a bit or not, but if i can't tell that must mean something right?

I don't get how you could think, being a long time listener and friend of the show, that this particular thread would be an appropriate venue to express these feelings that you are having. I understand that they are somewhat related to the tune of "the board has changed" but i don't believe that calling out both Bobby and Mikey here is the time and i especially don't think it's the place.

Basically, i don't think it would have killed you to PM one or the other, or both whatever it is that is upsetting or concerning you. I realize that it seems somewhat hypocritical of me to voice these opinions without doing the same but your post was here to quote so i guess, whatever. Your post just came across as something you wanted people to read, rather than something that you actually needed to say. Again, i've never had a problem with you and i am not saying that i do now, i just find it hard to understand your motives behind certain posts.

[styckx]

This reminds me of the time I met Lady Elaine Fairchilde on the set of Double Dare.

[Gvac]

My motives are simple. I've complained for quite some time that this place is no longer a friendly companion to the show as it once was. I believe mikeyboy agrees with me.

Nothing was done about it and it got worse and worse.

Now Dave dredges up Pantera and wants everything to change overnight.

It doesn't work that way.

That's all.

I'm a loyal fan and friend of Ron and Fez and I liked it when this place complemented the show. It no longer does and nobody in charge seems willing to do anything about it.

I find it humorous that people want to snap their fingers and tell everyone what to say, how to post, and how to behave.

[grlNIN]

My motives are simple. I've complained for quite some time that this place is no longer a friendly companion to the show as it once was. I believe mikeyboy agrees with me.

Nothing was done about it and it got worse and worse.

Now Dave dredges up Pantera and wants everything to change overnight.

It doesn't work that way.

That's all.

I'm a loyal fan and friend of Ron and Fez and I liked it when this place complemented the show. It no longer does and nobody in charge seems willing to do anything about it.

I find it humorous that people want to snap their fingers and tell everyone what to say, how to post, and how to behave.

What can people in charge really do to change the way (how many posters do we have?) post threads or responses to threads? Aside from delete everyone's accounts and everything on the board? Even then they would only rejoin and post whatever they want.

I feel that a huge majority of everything posted on this board is a direct result, if not inspiration from the show.

[PanterA]

My motives are simple. I've complained for quite some time that this place is no longer a friendly companion to the show as it once was. I believe mikeyboy agrees with me.

Nothing was done about it and it got worse and worse.

Now Dave dredges up Pantera and wants everything to change overnight.

It doesn't work that way.

That's all.

I'm a loyal fan and friend of Ron and Fez and I liked it when this place complemented the show. It no longer does and nobody in charge seems willing to do anything about it.

I find it humorous that people want to snap their fingers and tell everyone what to say, how to post, and how to behave.wait wait wait wait. Nobody asked me to post. What are you talking about? I saw this thread in a twitter update from twitter.com/ronfezdotnet. I honestly came here because I loved Fezzys attitude on the show and wanted to give him support.

Don't pretend to know my motives dude.

[Suspect Chin]

Obviously I'm new around here so I can't speak to "the way things used to be", but it seems like complaints about this site are running rampant, so why not make some changes? When big changes are necessary in companies or sports franchises, it usually starts at the top.

People like Gvac and other major contributors to this site are full of creativity and ideas to improve the site. Why not give them a chance?

We discussed yesterday that the moderators don't benefit much from being in charge, so why do they hold onto the post so tightly?

[Gvac]

wait wait wait wait. Nobody asked me to post. What are you talking about? I saw this thread in a twitter update from twitter.com/ronfezdotnet. I honestly came here because I loved Fezzys attitude on the show and wanted to give him support.

Don't pretend to know my motives dude.

Fine.

You're a Twitter geek now too?

Wonderful.

I just thought it was an odd coincidence that Dave was on a posting spree here and then you appeared.

Perhaps I made an incorrect assumption.

I apologize.

[hammersavage]

Obviously I'm new around here so I.....

THEN SHUT UP!!!!!!!!





I'm teasing of course

[Suspect Chin]

THEN SHUT UP!!!!!!!!





I'm teasing of course

You really think you and the other greater than 8000 post people would enjoy this site if it was just the 10 of you sitting around talking about the good old days?

[hammersavage]

You really think you and the other greater than 8000 post people would enjoy this site if it was just the 10 of you sitting around talking about the good old days?

I said I was teasing. I welcome your thoughts buddy.

[Gvac]

Obviously I'm new around here so I can't speak to "the way things used to be", but it seems like complaints about this site are running rampant, so why not make some changes? When big changes are necessary in companies or sports franchises, it usually starts at the top.

People like Gvac and other major contributors to this site are full of creativity and ideas to improve the site. Why not give them a chance?

We discussed yesterday that the moderators don't benefit much from being in charge, so why do they hold onto the post so tightly?

I like the cut of your jib, Chris!

You're obviously a man of great intelligence!

[weekapaugjz]

I said I was teasing. I welcome your thoughts buddy.

i don't welcome yours.




i'm not teasing.

[hammersavage]

i don't welcome yours.




i'm not teasing.

I CAN'T EVEN TELL ANYMORE!

[PanterA]

I like the cut of your jib, Chris!

You're obviously a man of great intelligence!you tell'em superstar. I hope you get what you're looking for. As for my twitter, its twitter.com/bobbypantera

Its great, no negativity.

[Gvac]

you tell'em superstar. I hope you get what you're looking for. As for my twitter, its twitter.com/bobbypantera

Its great, no negativity.

Enjoy pal!

See ya in 4 months!

[PanterA]

Enjoy pal!

See ya in 4 months!Hey, if your going to the softball game, i'll split a hotdog with ya.

[Gvac]

Hey, if your going to the softball game, i'll split a hotdog with ya.

I'll be there, but I share a hot dog with no man.

I'm very macho.

[IamPixie]

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to have the ron and fez show to entertain me every weekday.

To everyone who thinks it's fun to shit on the show and the board constantly- you'll have to think of something else to do with your life when it's not there anymore.

[Gvac]

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to have the ron and fez show to entertain me every weekday.

To everyone who thinks it's fun to shit on the show and the board constantly- you'll have to think of something else to do with your life when it's not there anymore.

Amen!

But the ones shitting on the board tonight were Dave and Fez.

[paulisded]

Why is this board and twitter mutually exclusive?

[Suspect Chin]

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to have the ron and fez show to entertain me every weekday.

To everyone who thinks it's fun to shit on the show and the board constantly- you'll have to think of something else to do with your life when it's not there anymore.

I don't think suggesting ways to improve the board is constantly shitting on it. In fact it is the complete opposite--recognizing that it, like everything else, is flawed and taking a proactive approach to improving it. The problem is that the key to change/improvement lies in the hands of a select few leaders that act like they don't want the power, but refuse to hand it over to someone who does.

[IamPixie]

Amen!

But the ones shitting on the board tonight were Dave and Fez.

When it's all said and done I'm pretty sure they'll both be okay.

I don't think suggesting ways to improve the board is constantly shitting on it. In fact it is the complete opposite--recognizing that it, like everything else, is flawed and taking a proactive approach to improving it. The problem is that the key to change/improvement lies in the hands of a select few leaders that act like they don't want the power, but refuse to hand it over to someone who does.

So said person should nominate themselves for modship. I would gladly endorse anyone who was passionate about the way the board was run.

[paulisded]

So said person should nominate themselves for modship. I would gladly endorse anyone who was passionate about the way the board was run.

Pixie and Angrymissy for mods!

[Gvac]

There are quite a few younger members here who are eager to be mods and bring some new life here.

Apparently they've got to wait for one of the existing ones to die, though.

[Suspect Chin]

So said person should nominate themselves for modship. I would gladly endorse anyone who was passionate about the way the board was run.

When is the election?

[TooLowBrow]

There are quite a few younger members here who are eager to be mods and bring some new life here.

Apparently they've got to wait for one of the existing ones to die, though.

ill be a mod

i wont be great

i wont be terrible

ill be moderate

[grlNIN]

There are quite a few younger members here who are eager to be mods and bring some new life here.

Apparently they've got to wait for one of the existing ones to die, though.

That is only half true.

[Gvac]

That is only half true.

I'm far too tired to figure out which half.

[IamPixie]

There are quite a few younger members here who are eager to be mods and bring some new life here.

Apparently they've got to wait for one of the existing ones to die, though.

I think it should be someone who is familiar with the ever-evolving nature of the show and board

[hammersavage]

I have no job

[Gvac]

I think it should be someone is who is familiar of the ever-evolving nature of the show and board

Any suggestions?

[IamPixie]

Any suggestions?

yup

[Gvac]

yup

Come on!!!

You and NIN are both gonna leave me hanging?

[TooLowBrow]

I think it should be someone is who is familiar with the ever-evolving nature of the show and board

i know the history of the board




it was cool
then it got less cool
then it got cooler
that was the coolest
then it got less cool
now its cool but it used to be cooler

[hammersavage]

i know the history of the board




it was cool
then it got less cool
then it got cooler
that was the coolest
then it got less cool
now its cool but it used to be cooler

I think that's the Earth you are talking about.

[grlNIN]

I will openly said that i would like to be a Mod however i know they have numerous reasons as to why they do not want me a mod.

I am not in a position to make myself a mod, therefore i am not. However, i don't harp on anyone in a higher stance of authority and i don't beg or reduce myself to changing or conforming into whatever it is they're looking for.

People can ask but it doesn't mean theyre going to get anything. Just like whoever they choose to be a Mod is going to be someone they chose amongst themselves, sans the public opinion of the board.

[IamPixie]

Come on!!!

You and NIN are both gonna leave me hanging?

I'll just say, said person gave me my wings.

[Gvac]

I will openly said that i would like to be a Mod however i know they have numerous reasons as to why they do not want me a mod.

I am not in a position to make myself a mod, therefore i am not. However, i don't harp on anyone in a higher stance of authority and i don't beg or reduce myself to changing or conforming into whatever it is they're looking for.

People can ask but it doesn't mean theyre going to get anything. Just like whoever they choose to be a Mod is going to be someone they chose amongst themselves, sans the public opinion of the board.

I said I was tired.

I read this 3 times and it just confused me more each time.

I'm going to bed.

Good night everyone.

Uncle Greggie loves you!

[Gvac]

I'll just say, said person gave me my wings.

Hahaha!

You're still the best, kiddo.

[grlNIN]

You're a dummy.

[barjockey]

I nominate ESD. He always wanted to be a Mod. I myself am too much of a rocker.





http://thm-a02.yimg.com/image/0b35a6593c17da40

[Heather 8]

I nominate ESD. He always wanted to be a Mod. I myself am too much of a rocker.





http://thm-a02.yimg.com/image/0b35a6593c17da40

I would've pegged you for a mocker.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Why is this board and twitter mutually exclusive?

because paltalk is pretty much done with so people need a new thing to bitch about

but whatever, this is just another thread about an interesting show topic that is now about the problems with the mods. Boooooooooooooooring. I'm going to go throw a dart at any thread and read the same posts over and over again

[angryhack]

Angry Missy for Mod, because she'll fuck your shit up, bitches.

[PanterA]

but whatever, this is just another thread about an interesting show topic that is now about the problems with the mods. Boooooooooooooooring. I'm going to go throw a dart at any thread and read the same posts over and over againword! thats another reason i stopped posting. everytime i would it would turn into this shit.

Lets stay on topic.

i think Fez was great when he attack the listeners for trying to make him the joke. hes not a joke, hes a funny mother fucker.

fuckem up Fez!

[lleeder]

I think you need a penis to mod. Thats just my o-pin-ion.

[Annie Waits]

I just heard the call on the replay we recorded last night, it's actually a pretty good impression at first, the end not so much....plus he said it's chuckwagon from FL but he's really in NC now.

[Death Metal Moe]

I'll be there, but I share a hot dog with no man.

I'm very macho.

That's too bad. I think it could have been cute if you both started on a different side of the hot tod and met in the middle like the famous spaghetti scene from Lady and the Tramp.

[Annie Waits]

WOW!!! i just heard the fez rant on chuckwagon....i guess we should cancel our trip to NYC

fez got all caught up in a call that chuck didn't even make

[RMPGP]

WOW!!! i just heard the fez rant on chuckwagon....i guess we should cancel our trip to NYC

fez got all caught up in a call that chuck didn't even make

Even if he didn't make the call, ChuckWagon has done tons of things on this board to make him a creepy Fez stalker which we know Fez hates after the Alabama recording Fez incident.

Come on, the fucking snuggler pillow with Fez's face on it? That's going to far.

ChuckWagon give it up, Fez doesn't want to bang you, move on.

[TobyWong]

Fez just said what a lot of us think - Chuckwagon is a creepy stalker. I'm glad he told him off.

[underdog]

You really think you and the other greater than 8000 post people would enjoy this site if it was just the 10 of you sitting around talking about the good old days?

Yeah, fuck those 8,000+'ers. I hate them.

I have no job

I have a job, but I'm still here all the time.

[TobyWong]

Boohoo, Fez called ledouski fat. So what? The man has high expectations for physical fitness in women. Is that so wrong? Lay off Fez, you haters!

[Donnie Iris]

Not sure which is worse....

The last three pages or so of this thread or the fact that I continued to read.

[happytypinggirl]

All this bickering back and forth about what the board should be...my goodness.

Why cant this just be a place where we can be friends of the show, and act like it, and where the show can feel comfortable to read and hang out and laugh and plan bar nights and post things like pictures and videos. If you want to bitch and complain, why not do it somewhere else?

For those of you who feel the need to post your bitching here....Is it that important to you that Ron and Fez and Dave see your comments? Even though they've made it clear they dont want to see the negativity?

I get that people want an open forum where they can say anything they want, but there are lots of other boards where you can do that.

[styckx]

Radio show hosts should have zero say in what they want or don't want to see on a message board.

brb I'm going to go **** a ******, eat buttered ******* legs with a sprinkle of lemon juice over it, and make a few heart attack jokes about a d-list celebrity.

[TobyWong]

I miss the old days when ronfeznet had strong leadership that would stop the negativity.

[happytypinggirl]

Radio show hosts should have zero say in what they want or don't want to see on a message board.



why?

i agree with you that there is no reason they should have control over what happens at wb or ftb or rgf or any other board, but the show decided they wanted to make ronfez.net their home, and a place they could hang out and post and share things with us, and make things a two way street. And this wasnt a one-way decision. Long before you or I came around, this board has enjoyed a family/friendship relationship with the show and why is that a bad thing?

What this board has traditionally had with the show is something really special and unique. What this board is becoming is just like every other board out there. Why be in such a hurry to be like everyone else?

[styckx]

why?

i agree with you that there is no reason they should have control over what happens at wb or ftb or rgf or any other board, but the show decided they wanted to make ronfez.net their home, and a place they could hang out and post and share things with us, and make things a two way street. And this wasnt a one-way decision. Long before you or I came around, this board has enjoyed a family/friendship relationship with the show and why is that a bad thing?

What this board has traditionally had with the show is something really special and unique. What this board is becoming is just like every other board out there. Why be in such a hurry to be like everyone else.

I get that, I do, but the negativity spawned on air, and carried over here. While yes, some tards jumped on a bandwagon like flies on fresh shit (I'm looking at you Striker), it was spawned from the show. You've been around long enough to know this stuff works itself out. Deal w/ the tards just looking for shock value, and let the discussion pan out. If the show is negative, the board will pick up on that vibe. You can't though have a very negative moment on a show, then say you don't want to read about it when it is discussed. That's silly. Just my opinion and I respect yours and other peoples who can rationally talk about it (did I just say that?)

[GreatAmericanZero]

this board has a lot of "miserable bastards" that just want to post to stir shit and piss people off. All the fezsassistants, sp1, davescackles, a few more that i can not remember but are all essentially the same person

the question is, should they be banned?

its not like they are going to listen to any reasoning or what anyone else wants. Its not like they are going to move on anytime soon. They don't have any friends on this board that will miss them. Would this board take the proactive stance in saying "get off my board you miserable motherfucker?"

there are people on this board who do occasionally have a negative opinion and they should be allowed to express it, but the people where thats all they do...if you want this board to be better you gotta do something with them. You just do

the major con of all this though is that people would call this site "wackbag". But i think there can be a balance between this site being what it is now...which is just as bad as any era of FBA, and being wackbag where we censor everyone's posts and delete negative threads from long time contributors

its something people would have to think about...i'm not even saying what anyone should or shouldn't do cuz its their choice. I'm just laying it out there. if this site goes completely down the toilet there is still so much other things to do on the 'net these days

[Gvac]

I've said it hundreds of times before but I'll say it again - the very fact that this site has the names of the hosts (and the show) in its title means it has a certain responsibility to them. It's not "IveGotTwoRadioShows.com" or "DontMakeYouABadPerson.net" it's "RonFez.net." That should mean something

I've long argued that it should enjoy an almost symbiotic relationship with the show.

Not everyone feels that way, however.

Ask mikeyboy about the debates we've had over this. The PMs could fill a book the size of the bible.

The simple fact is that the owners and administrators of the site ultimately have final say, and if they think the free speech angle is the way to go we can all argue until we're blue in the face but it won't change a thing.

That also doesn't mean I won't voice my displeasure.

I find it hilarious that Dave and Fez BOTH said they miss the way ronfez.net used to be, but when I say it I'm ridiculed by some as "wishing for the old days" "not being able to accept change" and that I should "just leave."

Where are the posters saying that to their beloved heroes?

There are tons of frauds on the internet. To think they all have an equal say is ludicrous.

[TobyWong]

Maybe it's time to get someone stronger at the helm, some alpha dog who isn't afaid to protect us from the Strikers out there.

[ChrisTheCop]

Dave has had a problem with this board for a long time.
I think he's had more fun elsewhere, and if he does, I'm not crying.

Gvac has had a problem with this board recently, and although I'd miss him, I think I already do... so he can go have fun elsewhere too.

Fez is relatively new to the board, and the messageboard world in general, as far as I know. I dont want the fact that he finally felt comfortable enough to join us to be ruined by that same experience. Unfortunately, it seems that what disturbed him most was caused by someone not even connected to this board, so it would seem he was just upset by a caller; Dunno how thats our responsibility.

But since Fez thinks it's a board issue, yes the current situation with Fez is more stirring than the 2 others or jayjay or anyone else...for me.

[Gvac]

No offense Chris, but I really don't think you know what you're talking about.

You make it sound like you have blind allegiance to a name, not a concept.

If RonFez.net became a women's clothing site you'd still say it was the greatest place on the internet.

[ChrisTheCop]

No offense Chris, but I really don't think you know what you're talking about.

Wouldnt be the first time.

[ChrisTheCop]

No offense Chris, but I really don't think you know what you're talking about.

You make it sound like you have blind allegiance to a name, not a concept.

If RonFez.net became a women's clothing site you'd still say it was the greatest place on the internet.

Damn you kids today and your adding of things to a post after its already been read once!

Soooo... I dunno that I actually dont like the site? I'm confused.

I enjoy this site as much as I did the first day I signed in...probably more. Thats just me. Others over the years have had their fill, and have moved on.

What is it I dont understand?

Help me to hate this board.

[PanterA]

so if someone attacks Fez for attacking the board they should be banned? there would be a few bannings right here in this thread. i think open conversation is whats needed on a productive message board, as long as its not "this show member is a fag" or "this show member is an elitist." (which i would ban without warning in the past if that did come up)

So Im all for mass banning the haters. fuckem if they dont like the show. BUT then there would be others saying we are nazis and favor others and there are cliqs and blah blah blah.

its a lose lose situation which causes the ones in staff positions to lose interest in doing this whole thing. if the die hards were behind the staff trying to do something to make this a better place then maybe things would change.

till you all can be 100% behind the staff, without questioning, this is just going to be a spiral coaster on its way to a firey doom.

[TheMojoPin]

till you all can be 100% behind the staff, without questioning, this is just going to be a spiral coaster on its way to a firey doom.

Ugh, who wants that?

If I'm getting an obedient cult, I want it to be of better stock than these miserable scumbags.

[Gvac]

The fact is that this place has done almost a complete 180 degree turn. Ron has subtly hinted for almost a year that he's not happy with the direction it's gone. Now Dave and Fez have come right out and said it on the air and on the board.

Yet we still have people saying "If you don't like it, leave."

I don't know. That just doesn't make sense to me.

Like I said, the site has the names of the hosts in the title. Without their permission. They've always embraced it, though. Now you have people personally attacking Ron, Fez, and Dave with no repercussion.

That makes ME confused.

[Gvac]

till you all can be 100% behind the staff, without questioning, this is just going to be a spiral coaster on its way to a firey doom.

Ugh, who wants that?

If I'm getting an obedient cult, I want it to be of better stock than these miserable scumbags.

Amen.

[ChrisTheCop]

The accused has said it wasnt really him, just someone using his name.
I'm inclined to believe him. So, if true, how is that our responsibility?

[Drunky McBetidont]

never posted on other boards. followed links from here before and was frieghtened by the enormous sigpics.

does seem like more assholes are coming here to post hateful venom.

if they personally attack people here or members of the show, don't they already get banned?

[biozombie]

As much as I like this place, I'm starting to think Gvac's on to something with that women's clothing concept.

[thejives]

I started listening to the show in '06, and I have since gone back and listened to as many old episodes as I can. Like most of us here I'm addicted.

While none of us "get" the show in the same way, we all love the show in our own way.

So here's my take on what's going on here. I'll break it into 3 parts:

1. WNEW and WJFK Ron and Fez perfected a new kind of cringe radio. Remember "Take her hair" and Wonderboy leaving the the show and Skellington? That was dramatic discord and turmoil inside the studio that the audience could get in on by commenting on it and judging. It gets a huge response. Huge audience involvement. That's where it began.

2. Like many radio shows, Ron and Fez have always pulled listeners into the studio as characters to interact with. But then message boards came along. Over time the number of show characters explodes. It's no longer just Sweet Melissa, Nurse Myra and Ice Cream Girl. It's an army of people with BACs and names and personalities. Those people are gradually assimilated into the show's universe. We're talking thousands and thousands of people.

3. Now put those two together. Ron and Fez are applying their successful cringe radio formula to their massively loyal fanbase. It starts with board members being mentioned. Then threads being used as show topics. And when the time is right, Fez starts posting on the board. However, it isn't Fez entering our world... IT'S THE BOARD ENTERING THE SHOW'S WORLD. Now we are all players in a massive cringe radio bit!

So that's what I think. Why are they doing this? Why can't they just do plain old happy-go-lucky drive by fun radio? Here's why: Satellite isn't terrestrial. There aren't millions channel surfers and commuters stumbling across the show. Ron and Fez have to maximize retention of their existing listeners and galvanize them into talking about the show with others. DRAMA accomplishes this. Sure, there's comedy too, but the brilliance of the show is its ability to decimate the line between bit and reality.

This is the best show ever. And we're lucky to be a part of it.

[Gvac]

never posted on other boards. followed links from here before and was frieghtened by the enormous sigpics.

does seem like more assholes are coming here to post hateful venom.

if they personally attack people here or members of the show, don't they already get banned?

No, they don't.

The leadership feels "free speech" trumps being friends with the show.

Like I've said, it's up to the ownership and admins to have this place project the image they want. If their philosophy is to let everyone say whatever they want, we can't do a thing.

[TobyWong]

We should have kept Chuckwagon from being such a creepy stalker. We have Fez in the name of our message board. It's our duty to keep him happy.

[PanterA]

Ugh, who wants that?

If I'm getting an obedient cult, I want it to be of better stock than these miserable scumbags.Im down for banning everyone that signed up to the site after 2004 then we pick and choice which members after that we allow back in. Then we have a max of 25 members allowed in a month with a solid 6 month probation period where they have to get post approved by staff.

[TheMojoPin]

The fact is that this place has done almost a complete 180 degree turn. Ron has subtly hinted for almost a year that he's not happy with the direction it's gone. Now Dave and Fez have come right out and said it on the air and on the board.

Yet we still have people saying "If you don't like it, leave."

I don't know. That just doesn't make sense to me.

Like I said, the site has the names of the hosts in the title. Without their permission. They've always embraced it, though. Now you have people personally attacking Ron, Fez, and Dave with no repercussion.

That makes ME confused.

I'll say it to them, too.

The board simply cannot go back to what it was, period. The only way to do that would be to travel back in time at least 4-5 years and cap the registration so nobody else could join. There's not a message board anywhere that has ongoing open signups that stays the same compared to how it was when it was at least relatively new and had a much smaller core group of posters. As boards get more popular, you get a lot more people from a lot more places, plus many of the originals cycle out for a variety of reasons. That's just how it is.

And like PanterA pointed out, prior to this current call to get tough on people attacking the show, the most common complaint (and we still see it) is that the mods are "power hungry" and "abuse their powers" and "censorship" and so on and so forth. Locking any thread and banning any poster that goes after the show or people on it is EXACTLY THAT. Talk about doing a 180. Plus we always hear the complaints about things being "too subjective"...you want to talk subjective, talk about trying to figure out what's over the line in terms of someone talking about the show. What counts as "too negative" or attacking? We obviously have some real clear examples of going too far, but then the line gets VERY blurry as to what is worthy of being shut out for being too negative.

And now we're supposed to be beholden to the people on the show? Less than a month ago the "problem" was that were were already too beholden to the whims of the hosts. Which is it?!? All of these complaints essentially cancel them out. The gripes one month completely contradict those the next. As it was said, this is totally lose-lose.

For the most part, trolls that are clearly here just to attack people as cruelly as possible are given the boot pretty quickly. We like to give people that aren't, or obvious spammers, a chance to change people's minds even if they made a crappy first impression. One of the great things about so many fans being here who love the show is that most of them are at the ready to challenge or take on anyone who feels the need to puff their chests by attacking people on the show or associated with it. It's abundantly clear to anyone viewing the site that the majority of people disagree with those type of posters and sentiments are and always willing to take them on. If anyone on the show, Ron and Fez included, think that most of the people here are against them or seriously out to attack them, they're wrong. Flat out. A lot of times people don[t get banned right away for being trolls because so many people here step to the plate to set their bullshit straight. If you seriously want me to ban anyone who attacks the show or the people on it, I'll do it. Happily. Start a poll and if the majority vote yes, boom, I'll ban anyone and everyone who has even just the slightest hint of negativity towards the show and the people on it. Then I'll sit back and wait for the inevitable complaints that I'm abusing my power and censoring and trampling free speech.

Gvac, if you seriously want this, should I ban Chuck right now since Fez went off on him on the show? What about toiletcrusher and Wumpus and lleeder and ADF? I guess I should technically ban Dave and Casey, too, since Fez has gotten so worked up over them and they post here.

[Gvac]

I've already posted that this is a fan site, which I believe should be for fans, not show members.

Don't misinterpret what I'm saying, Mojo.

I don't want to be all sunshine and happiness like Dave was calling for last night. I want honest debate.

It doesn't have to be harmful to the show, though.

Is this really that difficult of a concept?

[thejives]

Whatever we do.
Let's go big.

GVac, can you please hook up with Frenchie or something?

[ChrisTheCop]

Apparently, I've made too good point, as I am now no longer part of the convo.

[TheMojoPin]

I've already posted that this is a fan site, which I believe should be for fans, not show members.

Don't misinterpret what I'm saying, Mojo.

I don't want to be all sunshine and happiness like Dave was calling for last night. I want honest debate.

It doesn't have to be harmful to the show, though.

Is this really that difficult of a concept?

Yes, it is. You're honestly thinking this through. The idea of "what's harmful to the show" is completely subjective, which is apparently something you constantly rail about with the staff here, but now it's OK.

I'm not pointing this out to attack you...I'm honestly confused. One idea totally contradicts the other. Here's what I added to the end of my last post upon further thought:

If you seriously want me to ban anyone who attacks the show or the people on it, I'll do it. Happily. Start a poll and if the majority vote yes, boom, I'll ban anyone and everyone who has even just the slightest hint of negativity towards the show and the people on it. Then I'll sit back and wait for the inevitable complaints that I'm abusing my power and censoring and trampling free speech.

Gvac, if you honestly want this, should I ban Chuck right now since Fez went off on him on the show? What about toiletcrusher and Wumpus and lleeder and ADF? I guess I should technically ban Dave and Casey, too, since Fez has gotten so worked up over them and they post here.

What is the line? What constitutes "being harmful to the show?" Isn't anyone who gets Fez all worked up technically "harming the show?"

I's difficult to not misinterpret what you're saying because what you're pushing for now directly contradicts with so much you've said in the past.

[thejives]

How about if only mods can start threads? Everyone else has to make their point by bumping an existing thread about a similar topic.

[Gvac]

No.

Attacking show members' personal lives, their families, or the show's sponsors is.

[thejives]

No.

Attacking show members' personal lives, their families, or the show's sponsors is.

I think what worriesome about that is that the line between personal life and show is completely erased.

[mikeyboy]

No, they don't.

The leadership feels "free speech" trumps being friends with the show.

Like I've said, it's up to the ownership and admins to have this place project the image they want. If their philosophy is to let everyone say whatever they want, we can't do a thing.

Honestly, the biggest mistake I've made in recent times is to protect "unpopular opinions" at your urging. While it is important to not shout down people because they have complaints, it's become clear that some of those people (including one you championed) were merely trolls shouting their opinions over and over to get a reaction. This place is not and has never been a place where positivity is enforced, but it's clear that we do need to crack down on some of the trolling.

I owe every member of this board an apology. For at least the last month, real life has prevented me from being the presence on this board that I have always strived to be. Add to that the fact that Jon and Bobby have been non-entities of late, and you see that there hasn't been an effective Captain. There really hasn't been the moderation of this place that is necessary. I spent most of last weekend off the board to spend time with my family and returned to find people threatening each other, personal attacks and rampant trolling. The fact that Hottub is targeted as an overbearing mod is a laugh to me, because he's been the one doing the most to clean this place up.

Change is coming. Bank on it.

[underdog]

No.

Attacking show members' personal lives, their families, or the show's sponsors is.

So should Casey have been banned after the comments about ProFlowers?

[underdog]

Change is coming. Bank on it.

Oh shit, stay out of mikeyboy's way.

[TheMojoPin]

No.

Attacking show members' personal lives, their families, or the show's sponsors is.

So Chuck, false call or not, doesn't fall under the first? Fez apparently doesn't like the type of attention Chuck has shown to him and made that abundantly clear. By what you seem to be suggesting, shouldn't he be banned?

The line is also blurred by how much of the show members' personal lives are ON the show. That doesn't leave us with too many options if we're really going to crack down on this. You basically have to ban people for going off on things that the show went off on. How is that fair?

[grlNIN]

This place is not and has never been a place where positivity is enforced, but it's clear that we do need to crack down on some of the trolling.

I would have no posting style if it were. :\

[Gvac]

How about if only mods can start threads? Everyone else has to make their point by bumping an existing thread about a similar topic.

NOOOOOO!!!!!!

[thejives]

So should Casey have been banned after the comments about ProFlowers?

The carbonite thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79176&) is one of the funniest things I've ever read.

[ChrisTheCop]

Hoffs-Drawler.net, the year 2012:

Radio Host #1 was quite funny today.
Radio Host #2 was also "on". lol.
When Producer B put the hot sauce in his anal cavity I found it quite amusing.
Happy 5th birthday to Producer B's child #1.

**ALARM**ALARM** Incorrect Information*** child #1 is only 4*** BANNING MEMBER***BAN**BAN**BAN***This member is on Space vacation***

[TheMojoPin]

So should Casey have been banned after the comments about ProFlowers?

I guess Fez should be banned for his rants about Dave and Casey.

[mikeyboy]

No.

Attacking show members' personal lives, their families, or the show's sponsors is.

I don't think we'll ever have a rule that says you can't speak freely about the sponsors. The issue on the show was solely one among Fez, Dave and Casey.

[mikeyboy]

I would have no posting style if it were. :\

:)

[TheMojoPin]

I don't think we'll ever have a rule that says you can't speak freely about the sponsors. The issue on the show was solely one among Fez, Dave and Casey.

Plus the only "ammo" people have to go on regarding personal lives and families comes from the show itself. That's the trickiest area. It's essntially people commenting on a part of the show. Obviously, people can clearly go way too far, but then you have the very murkey middle area where it's hard to tell what counts as too far and what doesn't. The only true effective way to cut that out would is if the show dropped those topics. If they want to keep going to that well, people will talk about it and it's not always going to be positive, just like any other topic brought up on the show.

[Gvac]

Like I've said in PMs to you, mikey, over the top offensive posts should be removed and the poster should be warned.

Second offense? Banned, no questions asked.

It's not rocket science.

And I'm glad to hear that you're at least accepting some responsibility.

I know you've had a tough time of it going it alone. If that's the case you need to "hire" some more help.

That's all I'm saying.

[led37zep]

Hoffs-Drawler.net, the year 2012:

Radio Host #1 was quite funny today.
Radio Host #2 was also "on". lol.
When Producer B put the hot sauce in his anal cavity I found it quite amusing.
Happy 5th birthday to Producer B's child #1.

**ALARM**ALARM** Incorrect Information*** child #1 is only 4*** BANNING MEMBER***BAN**BAN**BAN***This member is on Space vacation***

Are space cakes served on a space vacation? If so I might be interested.

[underdog]

Like I've said in PMs to you, mikey, over the top offensive posts should be removed and the poster should be warned.

Second offense? Banned, no questions asked.

It's not rocket science.

And I'm glad to hear that you're at least accepting some responsibility.

I know you've had a tough time of it going it alone. If that's the case you need to "hire" some more help.

That's all I'm saying.

Weren't you backing #1ESDFan for a while?

[grlNIN]

:)

This is ominous.

[thejives]

If they want to keep going to that well, people will talk about it and it's not always going to be positive, just like any other topic brought up on the show.

When has the show ever withheld embarrassing personal information?

(other than Fez's secret)

[styckx]

Change is coming. Bank on it.

I didn't know Obama posted here

[mikeyboy]

Can I get a bail-out?

[Gvac]

Weren't you backing #1ESDFan for a while?

Yes.

Ron was urging Fez to get into a board war.

Someone named #1ESDFan magically appeared, more than willing to fill the role.

Was it a board character of Dave's or someone on the show? I don't know.

I figured let it play out.

He was promptly banned, though.

If it was/is indeed a "real" person, he could have been warned in private messages as to what is and isn't permissible.

That's all I'm saying.

[TheMojoPin]

Yes.

Ron was urging Fez to get into a board war.

Someone named #1ESDFan magically appeared, more than willing to fill the role.

Was it a board character of Dave's or someone on the show? I don't know.

I figured let it play out.

He was promptly banned, though.

If it was/is indeed a "real" person, he could have been warned in private messages as to what is and isn't permissible.

That's all I'm saying.

That guy got a ton of warnings and chances to knock it off or tone it down. There was nothing "prompt" about his being permanantly banned.

Honestly, this is another contradiction...why are we now supposed to wanr these people? On just the last page you were semeingly pushing for banning anyone who went after people on the show or their families. Now we're supposed to warn them and let it play out and figure out if it's a work or not?

[Gvac]

And as far as the whole "what is and isn't over the line? There's so much gray area..." thinking, that's up to the ownership/administration to decide.

WITH CLEAR RULES.

Again, not rocket science.

[TheMojoPin]

When has the show ever withheld embarrassing personal information?

(other than Fez's secret)

Exactly. I don't want them to stop doing it, I'm just saying that's the only way to truly cut down inspiring trolls outside of us banning anyone who veers from spouting supportive or neutral rhetoric.

[ChrisTheCop]

And as far as the whole "what is and isn't over the line? There's so much gray area..." thinking, that's up to the ownership/administration to decide.

WITH CLEAR RULES.

Again, not rocket science.

When is GVAC.net starting up?
Youre online enough to pull it off, and you have alot of ideas.
I'd even join for awhile to see whats up.

[Gvac]

When is GVAC.net starting up?
Youre online enough to pull it off, and you have alot of ideas.
I'd even join for awhile to see whats up.

I have no desire to run a web site, buddy.

I just like having a few laughs, some discussion about a radio show I love, and occasionally some serious thought provoking debate.

At its best, this place is an extension of the show.

At its worst it's something completely different.

[mikeyboy]

Yes.

Ron was urging Fez to get into a board war.

Someone named #1ESDFan magically appeared, more than willing to fill the role.

Was it a board character of Dave's or someone on the show? I don't know.

I figured let it play out.

He was promptly banned, though.

If it was/is indeed a "real" person, he could have been warned in private messages as to what is and isn't permissible.

That's all I'm saying.

He actually was a member here before all that started.
He was warned explicitly more than once about his behavior. Sadly I gave him extra "slack" so it was clear I wasn't out to get him for his opinions.
He continued his trolling and was banned.
He returned.
He went back to his regular course of behavior.
He was explicitly warned again. He continued business as usual.
He got banned again.

Honestly, I apologize for not acting sooner.

[Gvac]

He actually was a member here before all that started.
He was warned explicitly more than once about his behavior. Sadly I gave him extra "slack" so it was clear I wasn't out to get him for his opinions.
He continued his trolling and was banned.
He returned.
He went back to his regular course of behavior.
He was explicitly warned again. He continued business as usual.
He got banned again.

Honestly, I apologize for not acting sooner.

Fair enough.

[TheMojoPin]

And as far as the whole "what is and isn't over the line? There's so much gray area..." thinking, that's up to the ownership/administration to decide.

WITH CLEAR RULES.

Again, not rocket science.

And again, as I've been spelling out here, YOU CAN'T MAKE CLEAR RULES OVER THINGS LIKE THIS. There's already the huge caveat of "unless it's a bit." How do we know that?

You're going to refuse to accept it, but that's simply how it is. If we make clear rules along what you've been implying the last couple pages, pretty much all the people I listed hypothetically on the last page get banned because a host on the show thinks that he has or had a problem with them.

If you REALLY want me to enforce a clearcut rule along the lines of "no attacking the people on the show or their families" I'll do it. Just say the word. People will be flipping out in a matter of days.

[ToiletCrusher]

Mojo - what did I do?

[Serpico1103]

People want attention.
The board needs to ignore trolls, not confront them and continue debating someone who is only interested in posting negative rants.
The show needs to ignore negative callers (especially radio shark, just hang up and don't comment on his never funny calls), and should focus attention on positive posters and callers. People call in to bust Fez's balls because he reacts.
Have a caller of the day/week, poster of the week. Stupid bits that will encourage people to be positive. Demanding a certain behavior never works, the desired behavior must be rewarded, while the negative behavior is ignored.
Speaking for myself, I appreciate the work Mikeyboy must put in to keep the board running. Mikeyboy for EP, at least it's a respected profession.

[Tenbatsuzen]

At its worst it's something completely different.

And you consistently talk about that this place has been at it's worst for the past six months, if not more.

You left, went to third tier, didn't get the audience to feed your ego, and you're smart enough to realize that if you start your own board, it'll be a failure.

I don't get why if you are constantly criticizing this place why you stay. The majority of your posts are either bitching out the mods or inside jokes with your e-friends.

Then, when someone calls you out, you either claim we're stalking you (newsflash: hard to stalk when you're all over the fucking board, it's like playing hide and seek with someone who's 500 pounds) OR the people who dare question you are "part of the problem".

Maybe you should take a break from the board and gain some perspective.

[mikeyboy]

Mojo - what did I do?

GET BACK IN LINE!

[drjoek]

Mojo - what did I do?

You, "calling the show twice in a day prick ya" you should be banned for life:tongue:

[mikeyboy]

You, "calling the show twice in a day prick ya" you should be banned for life:tongue:

No kidding. YOU'RE OUT!

[styckx]

If you REALLY want me to enforce a clearcut rule along the lines of "no attacking the people on the show or their families" I'll do it. Just say the word. People will be flipping out in a matter of days.

Depends how it's done. Your example is 100% Wackbag rules (Selectively if you're someone other then Opie, Anthony or Spidertits) and is completely awful. It should be a case by case basis, usually the reaction of others is a good measure of how retarded someone is being.

ie:

On the show: Dave had a few shots and was funny

Someone here: Shocker, Dave got trashed again on the show and had to go home to those poor children because he's a 24/7 alcoholic who has no concept of life or family values.

^ PM warning to knock it the fuck off. They repeat, vacation time. From what I've read, too many "warnings" are given. Tell them once, if they ignore, ban hamster.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Do you know what's great? Adblock. That is all.

[Gvac]

Depends how it's done. Your example is 100% Wackbag rules (Selectively if you're someone other then Opie, Anthony or Spidertits) and is completely awful. It should be a case by case basis, usually the reaction of others is a good measure of how retarded someone is being.

ie:

On the show: Dave had a few shots and was funny

Someone here: Shocker, Dave got trashed again on the show and had to go home to those poor children because he's a 24/7 alcoholic who has no concept of life or family values.

^ PM warning to knock it the fuck off. They repeat, vacation time. From what I've read, too many "warnings" are given. Tell them once, if they ignore, ban hamster.

Thank you.

That's all I'm saying.

[TobyWong]

Best thing about this turn toward better protecting Fez on the board and the show is we won't have to hear hayseeds call and say 'homo says what...'

[ChrisTheCop]

The following words/phrases shall not be used when discussing the cast of the Ron and Fez show.

"disgusting" "ginger" "homosexual" "straight" "red-headed" "overweight" "irish"
"disorder" "hysterical" "silly" "sick" "under-the-weather" "live-read" "third mic"
"clown" "ass clown" "space clown" "sad clown" "dot netter".

[PanterA]

why not just back the staff?

anyway, nobody has been more attacked on this board then Mikeyboy. hes been called everything in the book from newbies to the hardcores. and i dont know anyone in the history of this site that has been there for the fans. with anything a fan needed involving the show mikeyboy has come to thier aid. yet still he gets bad mouthed by people that should be behind him no matter what. Mikey always has the betterment of the site and the show in mind when he does what he does. and for people to attack, instead of just backing the guy, would be a reason the site is what it is. its sets bad examples, plain and simple.

[Tenbatsuzen]

^ PM warning to knock it the fuck off. They repeat, vacation time. From what I've read, too many "warnings" are given. Tell them once, if they ignore, ban hamster.

Styckx for mod. Seriously. 1 or 2 warnings, then have a designated banning account to ban the offender. That way your avoid reeshy esque threats.

I mean, Mike, "Knock it off" has become an rf.net cliche.

[Tenbatsuzen]

why not just back the staff?

anyway, nobody has been more attacked on this board then Mikeyboy. hes been called everything in the book from newbies to the hardcores. and i dont know anyone in the history of this site that has been there for the fans. with anything a fan needed involving the show mikeyboy has come to thier aid. yet still he gets bad mouthed by people that should be behind him no matter what. Mikey always has the betterment of the site and the show in mind when he does what he does. and for people to attack, instead of just backing the guy, would be a reason the site is what it is. its sets bad examples, plain and simple.

For what it's worth, even though I've had my issues with Mikey, I know that there's no bigger fan than him and he works very hard for the betterment and expansion of the show and fanbase.

[Gvac]

Blind acceptance of rules is absurd.

When something is not right, you speak up.

[mikeyboy]

Styckx for mod. Seriously. 1 or 2 warnings, then have a designated banning account to ban the offender. That way your avoid reeshy esque threats.

I mean, Mike, "Knock it off" has become an rf.net cliche.

You ought to thank your luck stars that we haven't been that strict to this point. There's no way you would be here today.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The following words/phrases shall not be used when discussing the cast of the Ron and Fez show.

"disgusting" "ginger" "homosexual" "straight" "red-headed" "overweight" "irish"
"disorder" "hysterical" "silly" "sick" "under-the-weather" "live-read" "third mic"
"clown" "ass clown" "space clown" "sad clown" "dot netter".

You forgot "depressed", "addict", "recovery", "Mikey D", "slack", "alcoholic", "kangol", "old lady reading glasses", "trenchcoat", and "cough".

[ChrisTheCop]

Blind acceptance of rules is absurd.

When something is not right, you speak up.

And say, "I want MORE rules!"

[ToiletCrusher]

GET BACK IN LINE!

You, "calling the show twice in a day prick ya" you should be banned for life:tongue:

No kidding. YOU'RE OUT!

Fair enough, I've had a good run.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You ought to thank your luck stars that we haven't been that strict to this point. There's no way you would be here today.

I think in my case, I add to the board, and I'm not strictly here to stir up shit.

Another question - why are threads that are locked left out in the open? Shouldn't they be moved to the Phantom Zone or something?

[Gvac]

And say, "I want MORE rules!"

Ha!

I should have said "Blind acceptance of ambiguous rules that vary from moderator to moderator."

I stand corrected!

[mikeyboy]

I think in my case, I add to the board, and I'm not strictly here to stir up shit.

Another question - why are threads that are locked left out in the open? Shouldn't they be moved to the Phantom Zone or something?

Sometimes they are.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Blind acceptance of rules is absurd.

When something is not right, you speak up.

Uh-huh. But when I did that because I wanted to make the board more work-safe, which is part of the board's mission statement, you blew a fucking gasket and started rants about censorship and called me a faggot.

[drjoek]

I dont get this whole need for everything to be "Positive".
The trolls who post shit should be banned but since when is disagreeing with a topic or not liking everything a bad thing? I really dont see a vanilla board with everyone as positive about everything as say GAZ (not taking a shot at him using his typical response to topics ) being a very interesting place to be.
Not every topic covered on the show is agreed upon by everyone. I find myself having a difference of opinion about things but no longer post them for fear of being told "Youre an Asshole" (direct quote).
A less Troll board = good thing
All positive board = not so much

[Gvac]

I dont get this whole need for everything to be "Positive".
The trolls who post shit should be banned but since when is disagreeing with a topic or not liking everything a bad thing? I really dont see a vanilla board with everyone as positive about everything as say GAZ (not taking a shot at him using his typical response to topics ) being a very interesting place to be.
Not every topic covered on the show is agreed upon by everyone. I find myself having a difference of opinion about things but no longer post them for fear of being told "Youre an Asshole" (direct quote).
A less Troll board = good thing
All positive board = not so much

Agreed.

[ChrisTheCop]

DrJoeK is right. Let's get rid of that troll fest that is Yankee Thread 2.0

[TheMojoPin]

Blind acceptance of rules is absurd.

When something is not right, you speak up.

You leap from one extreme to another.

You talk about this place as if it's a complete wreck, then drop statements like the one above as if anyone who doesn't think the same is just "blindly accepting."

Everyone should bring up things they think can be made better, but we're now seeing the complaints directly contradicting the previous ones. There's seemingly no way to make anyone happy. If we crack down, we're abusing our "power." If we don't, we're letting this place go to shit. There is a middle ground, but it's the kind of necessary subjective, case-by-case situation that you apparently can't stand.

[Drunky McBetidont]

When has the show ever withheld embarrassing personal information?

(other than Fez's secret)

his secret is embarrassing? :glurps:


no wonder he won't share it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Someone's got me on ignore, or is just blatantly ignoring hypocrisy.

[thejives]

I think in my case, I add to the board, and I'm not strictly here to stir up shit.

Another question - why are threads that are locked left out in the open? Shouldn't they be moved to the Phantom Zone or something?

You want all these threads (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65474) sent to the Phantom Zone?
NOOOOO!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Styckx for mod. Seriously. 1 or 2 warnings, then have a designated banning account to ban the offender. That way your avoid reeshy esque threats.

I mean, Mike, "Knock it off" has become an rf.net cliche.

That's often how things used to be. We tried to stick to the "2 warnings and you're out" system but that just lead to people flipping out about "power abuse."

It's ridiculous how cyclical so much of this is. What people thought was the worst thing in the world several years ago is now the solution when at the time people were bemoaning the lack of an ability to "express themselves."

[Tenbatsuzen]

Everybody wants the old Fez, guess what? I'd love to see the old RonFez.net.

Since you brought this up, Big Cat, and it seems to be the crux of the situation... what do YOU, as the site's namesake, define as the "old" Ronfez.net?

[ToiletCrusher]

Shut this place down and make 3.0

[ChrisTheCop]

There's seemingly no way to make anyone happy. .

The problem is, youre trying to make one person happy.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You want all these threads (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65474) sent to the Phantom Zone?
NOOOOO!!!

No, I mean threads that are started by wackbaggers with unsubstantiated facts about show personalities' personal lives.

The hot chicks can stay. Include Mojo.

[TheMojoPin]

The problem is, youre trying to make one person happy.

I'm not trying to make anyone happy. I want you all to stay miserable. Though then I guess that would be making me happy.

[mikeyboy]

DrJoeK is right. Let's get rid of that troll fest that is Yankee Thread 2.0

Now we're talking!

[Gvac]

I'm not trying to make anyone happy. I want you all to stay miserable. Though then I guess that would be making me happy.

And you wonder why I love you.

[TheMojoPin]

And you wonder why I love you.

YOU'RE TOO HAPPY.

I want to bathe in tears and flop sweat.

[styckx]

Mikeyboy made a comment a few weeks ago about a few threads I was bitching about. Mentioned something like "our users jumped on them". Sometimes I don't think this is done to the degree it should be for fear of moderation of something they will say. If someones being a complete, pompus, peice of shit asshole, looking for a reaction, let the rules slide and let them get destroyed, name calling, insults, you name it.

Example: Louis Binetti. That shit was nipped in the ass with ruthlessness. The rules were "thrown away" for a time and he just everything he was looking for and then some.

As for giving a shit about what someone else thinks because of a ban? Fuck em, let them cry. Hell spoon got banned and became a .net martyr for a week because of it. People had fun with it, some bitched, but in the end did it really effect anything in the long run? Hell, he was a popular member, don't think so many people would give a shit if a dick, troll, or a person generally disliked gets vacation time.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Now we're talking!

You know, I couldn't get over how much Boog Powell reminded me of Ron.

[ChrisTheCop]

You know, I couldn't get over how much Boog Powell reminded me of Ron.

Sounds like an insult to me...BAN!

[TheMojoPin]

Mikeyboy made a comment a few weeks ago about a few threads I was bitching about. Mentioned something like "our users jumped on them". Sometimes I don't think this is done to the degree it should be for fear of moderation of something they will say. If someones being a complete, pompus, peice of shit asshole, looking for a reaction, let the rules slide and let them get destroyed, name calling, insults, you name it.

Example: Louis Binetti. That shit was nipped in the ass with ruthlessness. The rules were "thrown away" for a time and he just everything he was looking for and then some.

As for giving a shit about what someone else thinks because of a ban? Fuck em, let them cry. Hell spoon got banned and became a .net martyr for a week because of it. People had fun with it, some bitched, but in the end did it really effect anything in the long run? Hell, he was a popular member, don't think so many people would give a shit if a dick, troll, or a person generally disliked gets vacation time.

In theory, that final paragraph makes sense.

In reality, it's been pretty much the opposite of that.

Though I think we do already let posters go after someone who is going out of their way to be a heel. That's why the need for insta-ban isn't seen as being necessary since most of the people here know an obvious troll when they see them and give them what fer.

[PanterA]

mikey is the rules. the guy has last say in anything that goes on around here at this point. Jon puts his trust in knowing that whatever mikey decides, its for the bigger picture. sometimes you need to bite your tongue. mikeys the most reasonable guy i ever met. the modo of the board should be "In Mikey we trust"

[Gvac]

Hell spoon got banned and became a .net martyr for a week because of it. People had fun with it, some bitched, but in the end did it really effect anything in the long run? Hell, he was a popular member, don't think so many people would give a shit if a dick, troll, or a person generally disliked gets vacation time.

Spoon's the best.

He genuinely enjoys getting banned!

I love that crazy fucker.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In theory, that final paragraph makes sense.

In reality, it's been pretty much the opposite of that.

Though I think we do already let posters go after someone who is going out of their way to be a heel. That's why the need for insta-ban isn't seen as being necessary since most of the people here know an obvious troll when they see them and give them what fer.

Some of the best comedy on this board is when Reeshy got banned and his brother/friend/mother/lover came back to defend him.

[TheMojoPin]

mikey is the rules. the guy has last say in anything that goes on around here at this point. Jon puts his trust in knowing that whatever mikey decides, its for the bigger picture. sometimes you need to bite your tongue. mikeys the most reasonable guy i ever met. the modo of the board should be "In Mikey we trust"

The Mr. Modo?

[Tenbatsuzen]

mikey is the rules. the guy has last say in anything that goes on around here at this point. Jon puts his trust in knowing that whatever mikey decides, its for the bigger picture. sometimes you need to bite your tongue. mikeys the most reasonable guy i ever met. the modo of the board should be "In Mikey we trust"

You just deliver the mail and get tuna fish sandwiches from hot chicks.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The Mr. Modo?

TheModoPin

[styckx]

It'll all work out. It always does. Just a little less stomping on camp fires before you even see smoke. This doesn't have that FBA "out of control" vibe to it here. If anyone wants to speak about over moderation only need to remember how that place was ran during its final year.

[ToiletCrusher]

This is an argument that will see no end.

Shut up, all of you.

If you want change, that take charge. Those who run this board cannot do everything.

If you want it done a certain type of way, then pony up the fucking cash, buy this website and make the change.

Otherwise, stop fucking whining about what needs to be done.

[PanterA]

fuck a typo.

ban me

[Gvac]

This is an argument that will see no end.

Shut up, all of you.

If you want change, that take charge. Those who run this board cannot do everything.

If you want it done a certain type of way, then pony up the fucking cash, buy this website and make the change.

Otherwise, stop fucking whining about what needs to be done.

FUCK YOU!

[ToiletCrusher]

FUCK YOU!

Don't take offense, I was only doing what everyone else in this thread has done.

I felt it necessary to express my opinion too.

[Gvac]

Don't take offense, I was only doing what everyone else in this thread has done.

I felt it necessary to express my opinion too.

FUCK YOU!

[ToiletCrusher]

FUCK YOU!

I sense a theme here. Let's see how you respond to this.

Fuck me?

[underdog]

Ha!

I should have said "Blind acceptance of ambiguous rules that vary from moderator to moderator."

I stand corrected!

Mikeyboy should be the rule maker. The mods should follow his "guidelines", and if they overstep, he can reverse the banning or whatever. But I think there should be one person totally in charge and the other mods just keeping his rules in place.

That eliminates all gray area, too. Whatever mikeyboy says goes.

[Gvac]

I sense a theme here. Let's see how you respond to this.

Fuck me?

Mikeyboy should be the rule maker. The mods should follow his "guidelines", and if they overstep, he can reverse the banning or whatever. But I think there should be one person totally in charge and the other mods just keeping his rules in place.

That eliminates all gray area, too. Whatever mikeyboy says goes.

FUCK YOU BOTH!

[underdog]

FUCK YOU BOTH!

But I love you.

[Foster]

Honestly, the biggest mistake I've made in recent times is to protect "unpopular opinions" at your urging. While it is important to not shout down people because they have complaints, it's become clear that some of those people (including one you championed) were merely trolls shouting their opinions over and over to get a reaction. This place is not and has never been a place where positivity is enforced, but it's clear that we do need to crack down on some of the trolling.

I owe every member of this board an apology. For at least the last month, real life has prevented me from being the presence on this board that I have always strived to be. Add to that the fact that Jon and Bobby have been non-entities of late, and you see that there hasn't been an effective Captain. There really hasn't been the moderation of this place that is necessary. I spent most of last weekend off the board to spend time with my family and returned to find people threatening each other, personal attacks and rampant trolling. The fact that Hottub is targeted as an overbearing mod is a laugh to me, because he's been the one doing the most to clean this place up.

Change is coming. Bank on it.

Mikeyboy, in my opinion, you have been nothing but the perfect Admin; I couldn't image anyone doing a better job than you. you care about the board, the show and mostly you care about everybody getting treated fairly.

Thank you for all your hard work.

[Canadian Posse]

Mighty Horse rocks, he rocks the fat ass, and friday's mighty horse was Fez. He knocked the wheels off chuckwagon. Maybe it wasn't chuckwagon that called, there are alot of losers that don't have the balls to say who they really are. A person can't blame Fez, he has his issues, who doesn't, but we all love him and enjoy what he brings to the program. How about all you losers get off his back

[Gvac]

Mikeyboy, in my opinion, you have been nothing but the an perfect Admin; I couldn't image anyone doing a better job than you. you care about the board, the show and mostly you care about everybody getting treated fairly.

Thank you for all your hard work.

FUCK YOU!

[styckx]

Get a room!

[Serpico1103]

It's Mikeyboy's board. He can ban everyone he wants, just refund the membership fee.

Negativity is not the problem, it is negativity done solely to incite and antagonize other board members and show staff.

[TobyWong]

[QUOTE=foster;2281837]Mikeyboy, in my opinion, you have been nothing but the an perfect Admin; I couldn't image anyone doing a better job than you. you care about the board, the show and mostly you care about everybody getting treated fairly.

Thank you for all your hard work.[/QUOTE

Ass kisser

[thepaulo]

I'm sure we all remember the lovely picture of the real chuckwagon with the real fez at the famous turkey trot.
Death to fake Chuckwagon's and fake fez's


That would be the aenemic and bony ledouski.

[PanterA]

Negativity is not the problem, it is negativity done solely to incite and antagonize other board members and show staff.actually any negativity is not wanted. If I was running things with the backing of the members I would ban everyone I thought bad mouthed the show.

Look if you don't like Fezs views on gay marrage, come on in and tell him why you disagree, but once you start with name calling or "these are reasons why I don't listen to the show..." then you know what? Take a hike. This is a site for fans. And the other members of this board don't start with the whole nazi bit. That was the way it was, and the way it should be.

Then maybe other will start to respect the board staff and know that we are all here for the same reason. We love listening to the ron and fez show.