Fez Is Right (A Public Apology)

[biozombie]

Wait...aren't they the same?

One of them ain't really from Brooklyn.

[Bigtchrist]

Personaly i dont care if it IS a bit or not. I just really have never liked east side dave.. I like the ron and fez show...

[ShowerBench]

Someone who cries almost daily in a room full of men while on a radio show, yeah, real leap for me to say he needs real help.
Fez has no one in is life. Is that healthy?


Yes. Paranoia can work that way. The person can seem normal in certain areas, and completely irrational in others. Fez thinks that Opie and Mikeyboy, along with many listeners, have joined a conspiracy to make ESD 2nd mic. Not paranoid?

Yes, it is entertaining. But, that doesn't change the fact that Fez is getting worse, not better. He still cries on the air, now he thinks people are frightened of "New Fez", he hasn't revealed his secret to his family, he still hasn't dealt with his Mommy issues.


Fez hasn't cried in months other than a brief 15 second moment he immediately recovered from last week. Fez has openly identified some of his habits as not working for the benefit of his emotional health like his social isolation. He is making efforts in those areas such as going out more frequently and fighting back against people he doesn't believe have had his best career interests as a priority but who he thinks should, like his staffers.

He's not getting worse. The show has been great and he has been Fez for months.

[ShowerBench]

I think the trolling and the malicious board characters are a problem. But, fans, venting their frustration at 1/2 of their favorite show basically quitting on them, is not a problem.

But it is especially considering this guy's struggle to get back to 100% after some pretty harrowing events most of us have never come anywhere close to being forced to deal with.

The show has been the best show on radio since it started, with all of Fez's highs and lows. I wouldn't say the lowest of the lows was entertaining as in funny all the time but it was enlightening and more than worthwhile. No one has really argued otherwise, I doubt anyone here really even thinks otherwise. We listen every day right?

[ShowerBench]

What is the solution?
Saying that Fez crying or screaming irrationally is good?

What will it take to get Fez back involved in the show? What will it take to get Fez to focus on the show and not on whether he is sliding off his seat?

Well I'd say first, he's getting involved in the show again. For the life of me I can't understand the resistance to that idea here, but you'll see it if you look around. Feel free to explain it to me.

Second - do you think it would make a difference if people making the nonstop attack calls Fez has gotten for months and months (particularly about the Dave feud) decided to treat Fez like The Man again - and I don't mean in a disingenuous backhanded way, that's just douchy now. If the active callers really like Fez and want him involved 100% again - where the hell are you on the phones?

Come on lleeder. If you had your feelings hurt by the recent studio appearance, fine, everybody would get that. But it was what, an hour? You haven't had two heart attacks or a mental breakdown while being under siege from ballbusting callers on national radio for MONTHS if not going into years now so a magnanimous effort on your part would be easy and go a long way.

In fairness, I think I HAVE heard more of those calls lately - people prefacing their comment with a quick love ya buddy.

[vamessenger]

Well I'd say first, he's getting involved in the show again. For the life of me I can't understand the resistance to that idea here, but you'll see it if you look around. Feel free to explain it to me.

Second - do you think it would make a difference if people making the nonstop attack calls Fez has gotten for months and months (particularly about the Dave feud) decided to treat Fez like The Man again - and I don't mean in a disingenuous backhanded way, that's just douchy now. If the active callers really like Fez and want him involved 100% again - where the hell are you on the phones?

Come on lleeder. If you had your feelings hurt by the recent studio appearance, fine, everybody would get that. But it was what, an hour? You haven't had two heart attacks or a mental breakdown while being under siege from ballbusting callers on national radio for MONTHS if not going into years now so a magnanimous effort on your part would be easy and go a long way.

In fairness, I think I HAVE heard more of those calls lately - people prefacing their comment with a quick love ya buddy.

Are you ever gonna stop making excuses for Fez? He needs to do what is best for his health, mental and physical.

[shittles]

most of the Fez hating comes from listeners who aren't comfortable listening to a gay man

[Drunky McBetidont]

most of the Fez hating comes from listeners who aren't comfortable listening to a gay man

most of the Fez hating comes from listeners who suck

[tcc_dc]

most of the Fez hating comes from listeners who suck

that is correct and to the point....

As for Dave....I always feel like he is Kramer....great in small doses, but you don't want him around all the time...

[ShowerBench]

This article struck me as somewhat relevant to this discussion.

A lot of us didn't "trust" Bush in general, and we believed there was plenty of evidence to support that he used 9/11 and security issues for his own political advancement - all one had to do was first accept that it was a possibility. But nobody could be certain whether this was the motivation in each and every instance he was accused of doing so.

When the security alert level was raised before his reelection, some said it was a deliberate political decision. Most of us thought, yeah, he uses terrorism for advantage but that's just paranoid. I know I did. "Paranoid" was one of the buzz terms Bush supporters seized on to describe specific allegations like this, because if a seemingly outlandish claim were made about a specific instance and a majority thought it was unreasonable, the whole proposition of Bush using terror for political gain could be thrown out as a possibility and people wouldn't even pause to consider it.

Now it comes out that he did exactly that - Tom Ridge admits they raised the alert to win an election:

Among the headlines promoted by publisher Thomas Dunne Books: Ridge was never invited to sit in on National Security Council meetings; was “blindsided” by the FBI in morning Oval Office meetings because the agency withheld critical information from him; found his urgings to block Michael Brown from being named head of the emergency agency blamed for the Hurricane Katrina disaster ignored; and was pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush’s re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/20/ridge-politics-terror/

[IMSlacker]

So then Dave is really Karl Rove! This all making so much sense now. Thanks!

[Dell]

this has gotten more bizarre than...well...I cannot even think of a thread going this amok...

[ShowerBench]

this has gotten more bizarre than...well...I cannot even think of a thread going this amok...

What's so bizarre about illustrating how easy it is to successfully paint an "agenda" allegation as crazy and paranoid - and how crazy and paranoid some accusations about agendas and motivations can sound, til we find out they're accurate.

[lleeder]

Come on lleeder. If you had your feelings hurt by the recent studio appearance, fine, everybody would get that. But it was what, an hour? You haven't had two heart attacks or a mental breakdown while being under siege from ballbusting callers on national radio for MONTHS if not going into years now so a magnanimous effort on your part would be easy and go a long way.


So in your eyes I have enough sway with a 30sec-2min call that I can impact other calls into the show? Other than my efforts in the super duo of lleevac I'd have to disagree.

[Serpico1103]

Fez hasn't cried in months other than a brief 15 second moment he immediately recovered from last week. Fez has openly identified some of his habits as not working for the benefit of his emotional health like his social isolation. He is making efforts in those areas such as going out more frequently and fighting back against people he doesn't believe have had his best career interests as a priority but who he thinks should, like his staffers.
He's not getting worse. The show has been great and he has been Fez for months.
He has cried, or choked back tears, several times, yes, less than before, but it still happens. However, now he gets quiet and unless Ron asks him, the listeners can't tell he is on the verge of tears.
Wow, at 50ish Fez came to the realization that living a solitary life isn't healthy.
Fez is getting worse. He is talking more. Great. But, how sad is it that a talk show host has to be congratulated for TALKING!! His paranoia is a worse symptom of mental issues than the crying.

But it is especially considering this guy's struggle to get back to 100% after some pretty harrowing events most of us have never come anywhere close to being forced to deal with.
We listen every day right?

What exactly has Fez had to deal with? The traumatic events that we know about are; his grandmother dying in her 90s and his parents may or may not accept him for being gay. THE HORROR! Maybe for a teenager, not for a grown man.



Second - do you think it would make a difference if people making the nonstop attack calls Fez has gotten for months and months (particularly about the Dave feud) decided to treat Fez like The Man again - and I don't mean in a disingenuous backhanded way, that's just douchy now. If the active callers really like Fez and want him involved 100% again - where the hell are you on the phones?


I agree with this. I HATE the anti-Fez calls. They send him into a spiral. I want Fez to get better. How about the fans show their talent and make anti-Ron calls. But, since Ron is in charge of the calls that is unlikely. Why doesn't Fez take over the phones, maybe that will give him something positive to focus on related to the show instead of just live reads.

[ShowerBench]

Pardon a little more of the analogy.
http://www.shannondale.org/forum/images/smilies/beatingA_DeadHorse.gif

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/20/ambinder/

That's the same reason most establishment journalists instinctively oppose investigations of Bush officials: the people who rule over their Washington court may make mistakes, but they never do anything dishonest or criminal. They certainly don't blatantly lie. These journalists are the anti-I.F. Stones. And that's why political leaders know they can get away with blatant lying and lawbreaking. Why is that, Marc Ambinder? Because "most journalists are going to give the government the benefit of some doubt, even having learned lessons about giving the government that benefit."

About Ridge's revelations, Atrios today observes:

Sometimes it's a bit hard to remember just how nutty the world was in those post-9/11 days. Suggesting that Bush was using the terror alert for political purposes would have made you a crazy person, the mere suggestion of it would've put you outside the bounds of acceptable discourse.

Indeed, so strong was the stigma against those who said such things that Josh Marshall felt compelled to insert this qualifier into the first paragraph of his column: "Now, I'm a respectable columnist. I don't want to draw rolled eyes. But think about it."

[ShowerBench]

So in your eyes I have enough sway with a 30sec-2min call that I can impact other calls into the show? Other than my efforts in the super duo of lleevac I'd have to disagree.

As a powercaller you can help why not

[ShowerBench]

He has cried, or choked back tears, several times, yes, less than before, but it still happens. However, now he gets quiet and unless Ron asks him, the listeners can't tell he is on the verge of tears.
Wow, at 50ish Fez came to the realization that living a solitary life isn't healthy.
Fez is getting worse. He is talking more. Great. But, how sad is it that a talk show host has to be congratulated for TALKING!! His paranoia is a worse symptom of mental issues than the crying.



What exactly has Fez had to deal with? The traumatic events that we know about are; his grandmother dying in her 90s and his parents may or may not accept him for being gay. THE HORROR! Maybe for a teenager, not for a grown man.



I agree with this. I HATE the anti-Fez calls. They send him into a spiral. I want Fez to get better. How about the fans show their talent and make anti-Ron calls. But, since Ron is in charge of the calls that is unlikely. Why doesn't Fez take over the phones, maybe that will give him something positive to focus on related to the show instead of just live reads.

Wait, you're leaving out two heart attacks? Some people have a hard time walking around knowing they have a ticking time bomb in their body, especially when they get two big reminders. I always thought the secret took a minor toll in comparison.

Do you really think Fez's contributions on the show aren't worthwhile and the great Fez lines and comments aren't more frequent now than they have been in?

[TwizzlesMcNasty]

Dave will challenge Fez because he knows that he can. Fez rarely attempts to fix the things that bother him but would rather just adapt and complain. I find that the people that talk the most about how hard they work usually are the time wasters and the people who say they only want to get along are the ones who will stab you in the back. Fez does not help himself dragging opie and others into it but part of the reason that Dave can pick on Fez is that Fez is easily disuaded and talks himself into corners.

[lleeder]

As a powercaller you can help why not

whats a powercaller?

http://www.coloradoconnection.com/uploadedImages/kxrm/News/Stories/Powerball(1).jpg

[ShowerBench]

Dave will challenge Fez because he knows that he can. Fez rarely attempts to fix the things that bother him but would rather just adapt and complain. I find that the people that talk the most about how hard they work usually are the time wasters and the people who say they only want to get along are the ones who will stab you in the back. Fez does not help himself dragging opie and others into it but part of the reason that Dave can pick on Fez is that Fez is easily disuaded and talks himself into corners.

Agree with most of that but I give Fezzie credit (and wonder why Camp Dave hasn't) for not using the authority that he has (Ron reiterated that today) thus far to take some drastic measure in response. He doesn't appear to be looking to undermine Dave's career or shut him down, seems to me he just wants the former system of respect back that underpinned his status

[ShowerBench]

whats a powercaller?


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[Serpico1103]

Wait, you're leaving out two heart attacks? Some people have a hard time walking around knowing they have a ticking time bomb in their body, especially when they get two big reminders. I always thought the secret took a minor toll in comparison.

Do you really think Fez's contributions on the show aren't worthwhile and the great Fez lines and comments aren't more frequent now than they have been in?

You are wrong I guess. The secret has crippled Fez his whole life. He tried to deny his sexuality to himself. Now, he is still trying to avoid telling his parents, friends, and other family members. 90% of whom already know the "secret." Tell them or don't tell them, but LIVE YOUR LIFE. You are a gay single financially secure man in NYC. ENJOY!

The heart attacks, while physically serious, are not at the root of his mental issues.
Yes, I think Fez's contributions to the show are funny. Are they often? No. He likes to now scream that it is the Ron and FEZ show. While, he needs to scream it, because anyone listening for the last 3 or so years would not belief that it wasn't the Ron Show or the Ron and ESD Show.

Is he contributing more? Yes. But, he honestly has me very worried now they he is going insane. Before it was just depression and denial. Unfortunately, this ESD plot makes Fez look delusional.
Pepper do production. ESD answer phones. Plot foiled.

[Scott from the Future]

Can't we all just get along!?

[vamessenger]

Wait, you're leaving out two heart attacks? Some people have a hard time walking around knowing they have a ticking time bomb in their body, especially when they get two big reminders. I always thought the secret took a minor toll in comparison.

So he had 2 heart attacks...big deal. I know ppl (Fez's age) that have had 2 heart attacks and don't think ppl are out to get them. Hey, he might not have had the second one if he had followed the doctor's orders and changed his lifestyle a little.

[Dell]

http://frederickfoxtrott.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/oh-my-god-cover-art.jpg

[ShowerBench]

So he had 2 heart attacks...big deal. I know ppl (Fez's age) that have had 2 heart attacks and don't think ppl are out to get them. Hey, he might not have had the second one if he had followed the doctor's orders and changed his lifestyle a little.

No argument with that, but you have to consider what would be likely, almost predictable with FEZ, given his personality and that it's in the context of a radio show.

I.e., there's the objective point of view, where you might say accurately that "most people" wouldn't react like Fez does to these events in their lives, so therefore it's not a normal reaction. I'd even say that's a possibility that more would not than would react in the ways Fez has, but also think it is not at all unusual or outside the realm of reason or sanity.

The more important point of view is the subjective one - is it reasonable to affect FEZ in this way and would most in FEZ's position react the same way. I think they would, and I think the problem people have is due to the fact they're not considering this dispassionately from his point of view.

He's on a radio show. Have you noticed that a show like this intensifies ego and emotions in people and how desperately people try to get more mic time and advance themselves to a coveted host position? Fez has been in this business for decades so would be more than cognizant of that. So if complete loyalty cannot be assumed, the default is going to be suspicion of one degree or another.

Second, Fez's heart attacks and breakdown after meant he had to operate in that already stressful environment in a weakened state. Throw in the fact that Dave took Fez's weakness and his own extra mic time as an opportunity to put himself on par with Fez on the show. Then there's the internet which escalates this stuff.

It sounded today like Casey manned up for the team by stepping back from the internet. Dave, on the other hand, brought it up didn't he. Why? It would be reasonable for Fez to suspect his motive might be to garner sympathy and another round of anti-Fez calls or posts. Casey will be considered part of it, when in fact she might have been doing something to help them both. Now we don't know who's fucking who.

Did I laugh at both Fez saying "yes I am" happy that the Twitter was sent out, and the retard's inability to control himself? Sure, but where is this gonna end up.


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[underdog]

Does anyone remember when Dave first got with Casey it came out that Fez hated Claire because she ate weird or something. And Dave asked if she hated Casey, and of course Fez said no. Now Fez hates Casey for some other crazy reason.

[lleeder]

Does anyone remember when Dave first got with Casey it came out that Fez hated Claire because she ate weird or something. And Dave asked if she hated Casey, and of course Fez said no. Now Fez hates Casey for some other crazy reason.

he said she gnawed like a rat

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Does anyone remember when Dave first got with Casey it came out that Fez hated Claire because she ate weird or something. And Dave asked if she hated Casey, and of course Fez said no. Now Fez hates Casey for some other crazy reason.

Not a crazy reason. A secret reason because every woman is an incarnation of mother and is out to get him.

[stormy1065]

no ,no woman is as good as his mother.no matter how much he blames his mother no one can ever measure up. plus he reacts to woman the same way his mother would or the way he thinks his mother would.

[GregoryJoseph]

Perception is reality, as the saying goes.

Whether or not Dave is actually plotting against Fez is irrelevant; Fez believes he is and feels threatened.

Mocking, berating, and playing amateur psychologist will not solve the issue.

[Dell]

will the real...

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/dream_jobs/image/dr_phil_mcgraw.jpg

stand up...tie in to today's show...

[Melk]

Does anyone remember when Dave first got with Casey it came out that Fez hated Claire because she ate weird or something. And Dave asked if she hated Casey, and of course Fez said no. Now Fez hates Casey for some other crazy reason.
Of course. Any staff member's ex-girlfriends and Lily's current boyfriends are fair game. Casey, for some odd reason, is above criticism. Hypocrisy. Sexism. Sure, Ron's chick is also not talked in a negative light, but Ron never really talks about her. Dave brings up Casey all of the time, in both positive and negative ways, but the callers and fans cannot comment negatively.

Incidentally, why would a person continuously scream someone's food order other than to mock him or her? Why would Casey post medical bills on-line? Sympathy? Fund raising? Wouldn't that beg someone like Fez to ask, "Why not wear a condom if you cannot afford a second child?" Perhaps the more entertaining line was, "Casey got pregnant because she didn't want to get a job." In my humble opinion, that was pretty funny.

If Dave lacks the class to bring his concerns about his wife's Flickr account up on the show, why should I, the listener, respect his wife's privacy? Dave's daughter, according to the comments on the show, is retarded because she doesn't walk. Why is Casey so much more emotionally fragile than her daughter? Of course, the retardation line was never dropped on the show, but when a caller suggested that it is "difficult for an infant to learn to walk when her mother is in PalTalk all day" the suggestion is eliminated from the discussion.

I suppose it better than Juliana is "retarded" and not "neglected.":thumbdown:

Why do all the callers comment on Fez's homosexuality when he, essentially, is not even interested in being open about it on the show?

I think this problem has a more simple explanation:

Do you know of ANY TV or radio host that is openly mocked by his or her interns or subordinates?

Howard Stern? No.
Opie? No.
Anthony? No.
Steve Dahl? No.
Bubba the Love Sponge? Probably not (Haven't heard him).
Tom Leykis? No.
Bob and Tom? No.
Ron Bennington? No.
Conan O'Brian? No.
David Letterman? No.
Johnny Carson? No.
Fez? Yes.

Why is Fez the only host that is allowed to be mocked by his underlings?

[ShowerBench]

Of course. Any staff member's ex-girlfriends and Lily's current boyfriends are fair game. Casey, for some odd reason, is above criticism. Hypocrisy. Sexism. Sure, Ron's chick is also not talked in a negative light, but Ron never really talks about her. Dave brings up Casey all of the time, in both positive and negative ways, but the callers and fans cannot comment negatively.

Well the hosts don't have to have their chicks or whatever brought up because they're the hosts. There is a tradition of bringing up the girlfs and spouses of support staff particularly if they are brought up by the staffers.

Incidentally, why would a person continuously scream someone's food order other than to mock him or her? Why would Casey post medical bills on-line? Sympathy? Fund raising? Wouldn't that beg someone like Fez to ask, "Why not wear a condom if you cannot afford a second child?" Perhaps the more entertaining line was, "Casey got pregnant because she didn't want to get a job." In my humble opinion, that was pretty funny.

Sounded like Fez was annoyed by discussion about the hardships because he thought it was intended to reflect - or did reflect whether intended or not - poorly on him. He said something about helping them out with that stuff, and so when it was publicly brought up he probably read it as an attack on him at least in part.

It has also been insinuated that Dave's compensation isn't up to par - and his extra mic time, his family situation, and Fez's reduced mic time have been used as justification for that claim. None are legitimate arguments for a raise, and all are way out of bounds if you ask me.

So when Dave brings up the financial straits he's in, Fez naturally takes it personally and points out that he didn't force anyone to have two kids.

If Dave lacks the class to bring his concerns about his wife's Flickr account up on the show, why should I, the listener, respect his wife's privacy? Dave's daughter, according to the comments on the show, is retarded because she doesn't walk. Why is Casey so much more emotionally fragile than her daughter? Of course, the retardation line was never dropped on the show, but when a caller suggested that it is "difficult for an infant to learn to walk when her mother is in PalTalk all day" the suggestion is eliminated from the discussion.

I suppose it better than Juliana is "retarded" and not "neglected.":thumbdown:

That kid is so damn cute she probably already figured out she can just live on charm til kindergarten starts, why walk. But I see your point.

Why do all the callers comment on Fez's homosexuality when he, essentially, is not even interested in being open about it on the show?

I don't think it bothers anyone including Fez when there's humor and irony there, but some of the pro-Dave idiots throw it out there as a douchy attack. Hard to articulate the difference but you know it when you see it.

I think this problem has a more simple explanation:

Do you know of ANY TV or radio host that is openly mocked by his or her interns or subordinates?

Howard Stern? No.
Opie? No.
Anthony? No.
Steve Dahl? No.
Bubba the Love Sponge? Probably not (Haven't heard him).
Tom Leykis? No.
Bob and Tom? No.
Ron Bennington? No.
Conan O'Brian? No.
David Letterman? No.
Johnny Carson? No.
Fez? Yes.

Why is Fez the only host that is allowed to be mocked by his underlings?

Why indeed

[Melk]

In the previous post, I made several errors, but this one I wanted to correct:

I suppose it better that Juliana be called "retarded" than be called "neglected."

[ShowerBench]

Oh yeah and Fez brought it today.

BROUGHT.

IT.

[Zenbean]

This is what Dave looks like without hair dye and makeup:

http://www.iministries.org/Content/10267/PhotoGalleries/91196/91205-large.jpg

Louis C.K.?

[Melk]

Well the hosts don't have to have their chicks or whatever brought up because they're the hosts. There is a tradition of bringing up the girlfs and spouses of support staff particularly if they are brought up by the staffers.
What about all the Mrs. Stern and Mrs. Hughes ass-kissing?


It has also been insinuated that Dave's compensation isn't up to par - and his extra mic time, his family situation, and Fez's reduced mic time have been used as justification for that claim. None are legitimate arguments for a raise, and all are way out of bounds if you ask me.
If Dave was as great as he claims, we would have more general excitement about "Special Delivery." Incidentally, I think Sam Roberts could put coffee to sleep.

That kid is so damn cute she probably already figured out she can just live on charm til kindergarten starts, why walk. But I see your point.
Who knows? The Ron and Fez Show could blow up and the retard comments could bounce into young Juliana's elementary school life.

[ShowerBench]

If Dave was as great as he claims, we would have more general excitement about "Special Delivery." Incidentally, I think Sam Roberts could put coffee to sleep.

If ESD has host ambition Special Ed Delivery is the last thing he wants to bring up

[3Setsof10]

Of course. Any staff member's ex-girlfriends and Lily's current boyfriends are fair game. Casey, for some odd reason, is above criticism. Hypocrisy. Sexism. Sure, Ron's chick is also not talked in a negative light, but Ron never really talks about her. Dave brings up Casey all of the time, in both positive and negative ways, but the callers and fans cannot comment negatively.

Incidentally, why would a person continuously scream someone's food order other than to mock him or her? Why would Casey post medical bills on-line? Sympathy? Fund raising? Wouldn't that beg someone like Fez to ask, "Why not wear a condom if you cannot afford a second child?" Perhaps the more entertaining line was, "Casey got pregnant because she didn't want to get a job." In my humble opinion, that was pretty funny.

If Dave lacks the class to bring his concerns about his wife's Flickr account up on the show, why should I, the listener, respect his wife's privacy? Dave's daughter, according to the comments on the show, is retarded because she doesn't walk. Why is Casey so much more emotionally fragile than her daughter? Of course, the retardation line was never dropped on the show, but when a caller suggested that it is "difficult for an infant to learn to walk when her mother is in PalTalk all day" the suggestion is eliminated from the discussion.

I suppose it better than Juliana is "retarded" and not "neglected.":thumbdown:

Why do all the callers comment on Fez's homosexuality when he, essentially, is not even interested in being open about it on the show?

I think this problem has a more simple explanation:

Do you know of ANY TV or radio host that is openly mocked by his or her interns or subordinates?

Howard Stern? No.
Opie? No.
Anthony? No.
Steve Dahl? No.
Bubba the Love Sponge? Probably not (Haven't heard him).
Tom Leykis? No.
Bob and Tom? No.
Ron Bennington? No.
Conan O'Brian? No.
David Letterman? No.
Johnny Carson? No.
Fez? Yes.

Why is Fez the only host that is allowed to be mocked by his underlings?

Jesus Christ, you are one obsessed, wordy sheltered retarded loser you know that?

[Cyber Trucker]

I think Fez and Dave have a lil problem but I think there is a lil work in this.

[OleBullNuts]

3sets is correct. I suggest you start your car in your garage, and not open the garage door. Breathe deeply and do us all a favor, fuck face.

[ShowerBench]

Jesus Christ, you are one obsessed, wordy sheltered retarded loser you know that?

Yet where is he wrong

[Serpico1103]

Why indeed

Yet where is he wrong

Why is Fez "attacked" by his subordinates?
He allows it. His co-host encourages it.

Why does he allow it? If he silences ESD, maybe he fears that he will have to pick up the slack and talk more. However, that would take precious on-air time away from Fez thinking about his "abusive" mother, if the building will collapse, if people think he is lazy when he takes the elevator one flight, if he is slipping out of the chair, etc.
Instead, he prefers to let ESD talk, to free his thoughts for these more pressing matters. After all, it is his show, fuck the listeners if they don't like silent radio.

[brettmojo]

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[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

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Good point. I blame the whites.

:bye:

[WampusCrandle]

Good point. I blame the whites.

:bye:

Bad Point! I blame the blacks!

[3Setsof10]

Yet where is he wrong

It's a fucking radio show, you halfwit

Who in their right mind puts THIS much thought into it?? Seriously, did you actually read that whole thing?

The fuck do any of you care so much about a couple of characters on a radio show heard by dozens?

Get a fucking LIFE already- enjoying the show is one thing, that diatribe screams something else entirely

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Bad Point! I blame the blacks!

I'm gonna have to say you're wrong on that one. I blame the whites.

[WampusCrandle]

I'm gonna have to say you're wrong on that one. I blame the whites.

I blame the blacks. I sounded like i won again.

[brettmojo]

Good point. I blame the whites.

:bye:

Bad Point! I blame the blacks!

I'm gonna have to say you're wrong on that one. I blame the whites.

I blame the blacks. I sounded like i won again.
The answer lies here (http://www.feanor.net/z0r/shock/whiteblack.swf).

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

I blame the blacks. I sounded like i won again.

I blame the whites. This proves that my point cannot be refuted.

The answer lies here (http://www.feanor.net/z0r/shock/whiteblack.swf).

Wow you bring up an angle I hadn't considered but it only strengthens my argument.

[Lil oc]

I blame Casey, cuz apparently it's the thing to do!

Melk, you're an idiot. I noticed it before, your last long winded attack casey rinse and repeat post here cemented it. You had posted that how dare she comment publicly on the shitty health nsurance. In a nation whose focus at the moment is on the crap ass health insurance systems that are in place, how dare she do what millions of others are doing? COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SUCKS BALLS and goat's smeg.

We all know you have a hard on for casey, let it go already.

[Dell]

I blame Casey, cuz apparently it's the thing to do!

Melk, you're an idiot. I noticed it before, your last long winded attack casey rinse and repeat post here cemented it. You had posted that how dare she comment publicly on the shitty health nsurance. In a nation whose focus at the moment is on the crap ass health insurance systems that are in place, how dare she do what millions of others are doing? COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SUCKS BALLS and goat's smeg.

We all know you have a hard on for casey, let it go already.

I like the cut of your jib...(Gvac must not be online)...

[biozombie]

I blame Casey, cuz apparently it's the thing to do!

Melk, you're an idiot. I noticed it before, your last long winded attack casey rinse and repeat post here cemented it. You had posted that how dare she comment publicly on the shitty health nsurance. In a nation whose focus at the moment is on the crap ass health insurance systems that are in place, how dare she do what millions of others are doing? COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SUCKS BALLS and goat's smeg.

We all know you have a hard on for casey, let it go already.

way to keep it sexy.

[Doogie]

The answer lies here (http://www.feanor.net/z0r/shock/whiteblack.swf).

This is so stupid, yet it had me dying laughing...I enjoyed that sir.

[underdog]

Of course. Any staff member's ex-girlfriends and Lily's current boyfriends are fair game. Casey, for some odd reason, is above criticism. Hypocrisy. Sexism. Sure, Ron's chick is also not talked in a negative light, but Ron never really talks about her. Dave brings up Casey all of the time, in both positive and negative ways, but the callers and fans cannot comment negatively.

Incidentally, why would a person continuously scream someone's food order other than to mock him or her? Why would Casey post medical bills on-line? Sympathy? Fund raising? Wouldn't that beg someone like Fez to ask, "Why not wear a condom if you cannot afford a second child?" Perhaps the more entertaining line was, "Casey got pregnant because she didn't want to get a job." In my humble opinion, that was pretty funny.

If Dave lacks the class to bring his concerns about his wife's Flickr account up on the show, why should I, the listener, respect his wife's privacy? Dave's daughter, according to the comments on the show, is retarded because she doesn't walk. Why is Casey so much more emotionally fragile than her daughter? Of course, the retardation line was never dropped on the show, but when a caller suggested that it is "difficult for an infant to learn to walk when her mother is in PalTalk all day" the suggestion is eliminated from the discussion.

I suppose it better than Juliana is "retarded" and not "neglected.":thumbdown:

Why do all the callers comment on Fez's homosexuality when he, essentially, is not even interested in being open about it on the show?

I think this problem has a more simple explanation:

Do you know of ANY TV or radio host that is openly mocked by his or her interns or subordinates?

Howard Stern? No.
Opie? No.
Anthony? No.
Steve Dahl? No.
Bubba the Love Sponge? Probably not (Haven't heard him).
Tom Leykis? No.
Bob and Tom? No.
Ron Bennington? No.
Conan O'Brian? No.
David Letterman? No.
Johnny Carson? No.
Fez? Yes.

Why is Fez the only host that is allowed to be mocked by his underlings?

Exactly.

[GoFlatOut]

It strikes me that one of two things is true. #1 The whole Dave and Casey constant tales of woe, kids' problems and all their other crazy stuff is just embellished for the show. This would include Dave and Fez's "problems" as well as Fez's issues with Casey. Or #2 Dave and Casey's life is so f*cked up that they will be divorced in about 12 months and likely caring for one or two developmentally challenged kids that neither of them have the first idea how to care for.

I choose to believe #1 because no one could be that neglectful or stupid. Or to be lacking any shred of common sense (talking about Dave here) to talk about all this stuff on a national radio show.

[stormy1065]

It strikes me that one of two things is true. #1 The whole Dave and Casey constant tales of woe, kids' problems and all their other crazy stuff is just embellished for the show. This would include Dave and Fez's "problems" as well as Fez's issues with Casey. Or #2 Dave and Casey's life is so f*cked up that they will be divorced in about 12 months and likely caring for one or two developmentally challenged kids that neither of them have the first idea how to care for.

I choose to believe #1 because no one could be that neglectful or stupid. Or to be lacking any shred of common sense (talking about Dave here) to talk about all this stuff on a national radio show.

this is Dave we are talking about. Dave who speaks before his brain can stop him.

[Dell]

It strikes me that one of two things is true. #1 The whole Dave and Casey constant tales of woe, kids' problems and all their other crazy stuff is just embellished for the show. This would include Dave and Fez's "problems" as well as Fez's issues with Casey. Or #2 Dave and Casey's life is so f*cked up that they will be divorced in about 12 months and likely caring for one or two developmentally challenged kids that neither of them have the first idea how to care for.

I choose to believe #1 because no one could be that neglectful or stupid. Or to be lacking any shred of common sense (talking about Dave here) to talk about all this stuff on a national radio show.

i believe it is an international show...therefore I must dismiss both of your options...neither are true...what a sneaky first post...

[Tall_James]

The second point is just a hurtful post about his children. That is classless.

[sailor]

It strikes me that one of two things is true. #1 The whole Dave and Casey constant tales of woe, kids' problems and all their other crazy stuff is just embellished for the show. This would include Dave and Fez's "problems" as well as Fez's issues with Casey. Or #2 Dave and Casey's life is so f*cked up that they will be divorced in about 12 months and likely caring for one or two developmentally challenged kids that neither of them have the first idea how to care for.

I choose to believe #1 because no one could be that neglectful or stupid. Or to be lacking any shred of common sense (talking about Dave here) to talk about all this stuff on a national radio show.

underdog.

[PD]

It strikes me that one of two things is true. #1 The whole Dave and Casey constant tales of woe, kids' problems and all their other crazy stuff is just embellished for the show. This would include Dave and Fez's "problems" as well as Fez's issues with Casey. Or #2 Dave and Casey's life is so f*cked up that they will be divorced in about 12 months and likely caring for one or two developmentally challenged kids that neither of them have the first idea how to care for.

I choose to believe #1 because no one could be that neglectful or stupid. Or to be lacking any shred of common sense (talking about Dave here) to talk about all this stuff on a national radio show.

The second point is just a hurtful post about his children. That is classless.
Tall_James is dead on here - do you people think before you post?

a) It's a radio show- it's not your family stories
b) Dave tries to make the radio show interesting. He thinks it is good if he shares stories. If he is saying them on the radio show, and continues to say them on the radio show, Ron obviously doesn't mind. If he did, he would never say anything about them again. I'd even venture that to a degree Fez doesn't feel as bad about this as some of you think, or he would tell dave to stop.
c) The stuff Dave says is usually hyperbole (if you don't know what that means look it up). The stuff Ron says is for comic value. Dave's children are developing fine, and they have 2 parents that love them dearly. Again, you are listening to a radio show about people who you don't REALLY know- so stop attacking their kids. I'd hope you wouldn't want strangers to attack your family.
d) Dave mentioned their bills. As Lil said, this is pretty topical. He is not asking for you to host a telethon. once again, see point b that Ron is not offended by this - so either deal with it or turn the show off.


and

e) maybe you need to get a life (or at least spend some time away from the computer)

[ShowerBench]

c) The stuff Dave says is usually hyperbole (if you don't know what that means look it up). The stuff Ron says is for comic value. Dave's children are developing fine, and they have 2 parents that love them dearly. Again, you are listening to a radio show about people who you don't REALLY know- so stop attacking their kids. I'd hope you wouldn't want strangers to attack your family.
d) Dave mentioned their bills. As Lil said, this is pretty topical. He is not asking for you to host a telethon. once again, see point b that Ron is not offended by this - so either deal with it or turn the show off.


and

e) maybe you need to get a life (or at least spend some time away from the computer)
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I agree with a lot of that, but if bills are brought up in the context of this situation between Dave and Fez, it's not as benign as it would be otherwise.

If people are calling in and posting on message boards with insinuations that Fez is somehow responsible for Dave's financial problems, or theories that Dave should be making more since Dave's word count on the air exceeded Fez's for a period of time, that's going to cause tension when they get anywhere near that particular topic.

[paulisded]

Jesus Christ, Casey posted on twitter that she was upset when she received a medical bill. Just like thousands of people do every day. It was no different than any silly Twitter where people bitch about bad drivers, workday problems, bad meals, or moodiness in general. Nowhere in those 15 or so words was Fez's name even brought up, and nowhere was she begging for help in paying those bills (unlike some other people who have recently been demanding help for day to day expenses).

The idea that a useless twitter post has turned into some deep conspiracy to get rid of Fez is easily the most idiotic theory I've ever read on a message board.

[WampusCrandle]

The idea that a useless twitter post has turned into some deep conspiracy to get rid of Fez is easily the most idiotic theory I've ever read on a message board.

http://www.scificool.com/images/2008/04/x-files-2-title-revealed-2.jpg

[WampusCrandle]

The answer lies here (http://www.feanor.net/z0r/shock/whiteblack.swf).

holy shit, that was funny, and i had a seizure - thanks!

[Melk]

Who in their right mind puts THIS much thought into it?? Seriously, did you actually read that whole thing?
I didn't realize that I had to answer to your posting sensibilities. I typed that up while I was waiting for a friend to get ready to go out (thus the grammar errors and typos).

The fuck do any of you care so much about a couple of characters on a radio show heard by dozens?
I suppose that I should be insulted or ashamed by the unimpressive size of The Ron and Fez Show audience you quoted? I'm not particularly thin-skinned. If an Arbitron survey concluded that I was the only listener, Then I think only The Ron and Fez Show staff who would be hurt. I'd just use whatever Audible-Listener Credits I'd receive for my troubles on something else and listen to a SModcast or Adam Corolla Podcast for my commutes or my time at the gym.

Get a fucking LIFE already- enjoying the show is one thing, that diatribe screams something else entirely
You are on a Ron and Fez show-based message board, in a Ron and Fez Show-related section, in a Ron and Fez show thread talking about The Ron and Fez Show. What do you expect me to talk about? Howard Stern? The New York Giants? Barack Obama?

I have a job, I have a life, and I like the show. So what?

[Gvac]

Don't you get it Melk?

3Setsof10 is above it all, and far more intelligent than any of us. He's the best! We're all stupid! He's here to set us all straight.

I say thank God for him!

And the real people who should "get a life" as he says are the trollers; the ones who constantly scan this website but never log on and post unless they spot someone they have a personal vendetta with on some other site.

Then they bring their internet flame war here.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[underdog]

Don't you get it Melk?

3Setsof10 is above it all, and far more intelligent than any of us. He's the best! We're all stupid! He's here to set us all straight.

I say thank God for him!

And the real people who should "get a life" as he says are the trollers; the ones who constantly scan this website but never log on and post unless they spot someone they have a personal vendetta with on some other site.

Then they bring their internet flame war here.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Get a job!

[Melk]

I blame Casey, cuz apparently it's the thing to do!

Melk, you're an idiot. I noticed it before, your last long winded attack casey rinse and repeat post here cemented it. You had posted that how dare she comment publicly on the shitty health nsurance. In a nation whose focus at the moment is on the crap ass health insurance systems that are in place, how dare she do what millions of others are doing? COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SUCKS BALLS and goat's smeg.

We all know you have a hard on for casey, let it go already.
I am basing all of my information off of what is being said on the air. I'm defending Fez's side of the argument. My point on the medical insurance thing was that in a bad economy where Dave is working for a financially suffering company the last thing you want to do is give your employers a vindictive reason to want to fire you.

If I were Fez, and have heard about Opie and Anthony fans flooding Wiki and E-lo's mailboxes whenever something seemed to be happening contrary to their wishes, I'd be worried about a posted medical insurance document getting the same reaction from concerned Ron and Fez fans, especially since Dave's medical insurance problem may have been the result of his applying for the wrong coverage or it might be solved behind-the-scenes.

[Melk]

Jesus Christ, Casey posted on twitter that she was upset when she received a medical bill. Just like thousands of people do every day. It was no different than any silly Twitter where people bitch about bad drivers, workday problems, bad meals, or moodiness in general. Nowhere in those 15 or so words was Fez's name even brought up, and nowhere was she begging for help in paying those bills (unlike some other people who have recently been demanding help for day to day expenses).

The idea that a useless twitter post has turned into some deep conspiracy to get rid of Fez is easily the most idiotic theory I've ever read on a message board.
I'll be the first person to complain about medical coverage. I just think it would bother me, as a supervisor, if my employee's spouse posted about it on the Internet in a way would indicate the employer directly (especially if the error were on the insurance company's side).

I agree that Fez's conspiracy theory is far-fetched, but it is pretty funny.

[Melk]

Don't you get it Melk?

3Setsof10 is above it all, and far more intelligent than any of us. He's the best! We're all stupid! He's here to set us all straight.

I say thank God for him!

And the real people who should "get a life" as he says are the trollers; the ones who constantly scan this website but never log on and post unless they spot someone they have a personal vendetta with on some other site.

Then they bring their internet flame war here.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
So... it is a conspiracy.

I'll prepare the foil hats. Gvac, you call Alex Jones and Art Bell!

[3Setsof10]

I didn't realize that I had to answer to your posting sensibilities. I typed that up while I was waiting for a friend to get ready to go out (thus the grammar errors and typos).


I suppose that I should be insulted or ashamed by the unimpressive size of The Ron and Fez Show audience you quoted? I'm not particularly thin-skinned. If an Arbitron survey concluded that I was the only listener, Then I think only The Ron and Fez Show staff who would be hurt. I'd just use whatever Audible-Listener Credits I'd receive for my troubles on something else and listen to a SModcast or Adam Corolla Podcast for my commutes or my time at the gym.


You are on a Ron and Fez show-based message board, in a Ron and Fez Show-related section, in a Ron and Fez show thread talking about The Ron and Fez Show. What do you expect me to talk about? Howard Stern? The New York Giants? Barack Obama?

I have a job, I have a life, and I like the show. So what?

I love how you have to clarify it "I was writing all those words before I was set to GO OUT SIDE I SWEAR"

You're knocking a guy, his wife, and their two kids- shut the fuck up, retard

Don't you get it Melk?

3Setsof10 is above it all, and far more intelligent than any of us. He's the best! We're all stupid! He's here to set us all straight.

I say thank God for him!

And the real people who should "get a life" as he says are the trollers; the ones who constantly scan this website but never log on and post unless they spot someone they have a personal vendetta with on some other site.

Then they bring their internet flame war here.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

You're a moron, but smart enough to have that part figured out

So what was so wrong about my initial post? The guy's not obsessed, not wordy, what?

I have yet to get an answer on why anyone would take this shit so seriously

[3Setsof10]

I'll be the first person to complain about medical coverage. I just think it would bother me, as a supervisor, if my employee's spouse posted about it on the Internet in a way would indicate the employer directly (especially if the error were on the insurance company's side).

I agree that Fez's conspiracy theory is far-fetched, but it is pretty funny.

Are you Dave's supervisor?

No?

Then WTF do you care??

[Gvac]

I love how you have to clarify it "I was writing all those words before I was set to GO OUT SIDE I SWEAR"

You're knocking a guy, his wife, and their two kids- shut the fuck up, retard



You're a moron, but smart enough to have that part figured out

So what was so wrong about my initial post? The guy's not obsessed, not wordy, what?

I have yet to get an answer on why anyone would take this shit so seriously

Shhhh.

Go back to bed.

I've used the analogy before, but in your case it's spot on. You're like a guy going to a WWE match and screaming at everyone "It's not real!"

We post here because we enjoy the show and like having some fun with it.

Your act of constantly bashing everyone who comments isn't a very good one.

If you don't enjoy the absurdity of the Ron and Fez Show (and in turn, this website) then why do you come here and piss and moan about those that do?

[mikeyboy]

I love how you have to clarify it "I was writing all those words before I was set to GO OUT SIDE I SWEAR"

You're knocking a guy, his wife, and their two kids- shut the fuck up, retard



You're a moron, but smart enough to have that part figured out

So what was so wrong about my initial post? The guy's not obsessed, not wordy, what?

I have yet to get an answer on why anyone would take this shit so seriously

ease up on the name calling.

[3Setsof10]

Shhhh.

Go back to bed.

I've used the analogy before, but in your case it's spot on. You're like a guy going to a WWE match and screaming at everyone "It's not real!"

We post here because we enjoy the show and like having some fun with it.

Your act of constantly bashing everyone who comments isn't a very good one.

If you don't enjoy the absurdity of the Ron and Fez Show (and in turn, this website) then why do you come here and piss and moan about those that do?

Fuck off, twerp- don't try and label me or yourself because you're coming off like a real nitwit

I enjoy the show, I do NOT enjoy the listeners that think they are PART of the show

And when people like this Melk idiot make these ridiculously long winded comments about a radio character's personal life it makes me wonder if there are restraining orders in place and if not, why not

So is that a simple enough explanation for you? Don't condescend to me, it's laughable

[WampusCrandle]

i go this one Mikey - NO NAME CALLING! 2/93 fake infractions for you.

[Gvac]

Fuck off, twerp- don't try and label me or yourself because you're coming off like a real nitwit

I enjoy the show, I do NOT enjoy the listeners that think they are PART of the show

And when people like this Melk idiot make these ridiculously long winded comments about a radio character's personal life it makes me wonder if there are restraining orders in place and if not, why not

So is that a simple enough explanation for you? Don't condescend to me, it's laughable

I am a genius, sir.

It's verifiable.

My IQ dwarfs yours. It's a fact.

I'm brilliant.

You're obviously one of these "internet tough guys" I've heard so much about.

Enjoy pounding your keyboard.

I fart in your general direction!

[underdog]

I am a genius, sir.

It's verifiable.

My IQ dwarfs yours. It's a fact.

I'm brilliant.

You're obviously one of these "internet tough guys" I've heard so much about.

Enjoy pounding your keyboard.

I fart in your general direction!

I pound my keyboard. But that's because it won't work correctly.

[WampusCrandle]

I am a genius, sir.

It's verifiable.

My IQ dwarfs yours. It's a fact.

I'm brilliant.

You're obviously one of these "internet tough guys" I've heard so much about.

Enjoy pounding your keyboard.

I fart in your general direction!

i pound my keyboard after a glass of red wine, a nice dinner - in front of a fire on a bear rug.

[spankyfrank]

someone needs a nap.....

[disneyspy]

someone needs a nap.....

no that his "gimmick",he cant be amusing or have a good time so he attacks those that do,good thing boards dont have an entertainin level cuz he'd never be allowed to sign up anywhere,except emo r us

[3Setsof10]

no that his "gimmick",he cant be amusing or have a good time so he attacks those that do,good thing boards dont have an entertainin level cuz he'd never be allowed to sign up anywhere,except emo r us

Have you talked to Gvac about this?

[Drunky McBetidont]

no that his "gimmick",he cant be amusing or have a good time so he attacks those that do,good thing boards dont have an entertainin level cuz he'd never be allowed to sign up anywhere,except emo r us

hey, that's my gimmick!!! :furious:

[shittles]

Threesetsoften has made some excellent points. I wish everyone would stop picking on him

[disneyspy]

Have you talked to Gvac about this?

dont need to,seen enuf of your posts to know,never wasted the time to reply until you decided to attack me and it was emoish enuf for me to picture the poor choice of lifestyle you made for yourself,i really do feel sorry for you

[underdog]

dont need to,seen enuf of your posts to know,never wasted the time to reply until you decided to attack me and it was emoish enuf for me to picture the poor choice of lifestyle you made for yourself,i really do feel sorry for you

Hey! That's my gimmick!

[3Setsof10]

dont need to,seen enuf of your posts to know,never wasted the time to reply until you decided to attack me and it was emoish enuf for me to picture the poor choice of lifestyle you made for yourself,i really do feel sorry for you

WTF are you talking about, who are you anyway??

You actually looked at words on a board and tried to figure out someone's entire lifestyle based off of that?

Wow

And stop distracting from my original point- as in why Melk can post some stalkerish, creepy, wordy posts talking about a radio character's personal life

[disneyspy]

WTF are you talking about, who are you anyway??

You actually looked at words on a board and tried to figure out someone's entire lifestyle based off of that?

Wow

And stop distracting from my original point- as in why Melk can post some stalkerish, creepy, wordy posts talking about a radio character's personal life

i agree with the melk opinion but you're the one who went off on others

and i'm an old school caller/friend of these guys from the florida days,if you're that much of a fan you'd know that

[3Setsof10]

i agree with the melk opinion but you're the one who went off on others

and i'm an old school caller/friend of these guys from the florida days,if you're that much of a fan you'd know that

Oh SO SORRY

Get over yourself, and thanks for agreeing

[disneyspy]

Oh SO SORRY

Get over yourself, and thanks for agreeing

get over yourself,thats just great

isnt it time for you to go tattoo yourself in the dark so you can complain about how bad it turned out?

i know you cant wait to reply with another great reply,go ahead i'll be back on monday night to read your condescending dreck

[Dell]

hey...did someone miss their corner tag...we demand more...c'mon...entertain me...

[GoFlatOut]

Once again, a kick save from Mikey Boy on the name calling. Well done. We don't need that kind of idiocy on here.

[Gvac]

Stop being so jealous because Ron and Fez love me.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/FezRonCrazed.jpg

[WampusCrandle]

Stop being so jealous because Ron and Fez love me.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/FezRonCrazed.jpg

why, is that boy you, mr. Gvac?

[spankyfrank]

why, is that boy you, mr. Gvac?

Thats uncle Gvac.....

[Gvac]

why, is that boy you, mr. Gvac?

I WISH I was that handsome and famous!

That's the world renowned Crazed!

[WampusCrandle]

I WISH I was that handsome and famous!

That's the world renowned Crazed!

why don't you put a picture of the two greats and yourself .... creep.

[Gvac]

P.S. - Hiding behind a new board name = pussy.

[underdog]

I WISH I was that handsome and famous!

That's the world renowned Crazed!

Do you mean Fred from Brooklyn?

[Melk]

And stop distracting from my original point- as in why Melk can post some stalkerish, creepy, wordy posts talking about a radio character's personal life
It is probably for the same reason you can post stalkerish, creepy posts talking about my personal character.

It's just a message board, you should really just get a life.

[styckx]

C:\cd ronfez.net

C:\ronfez.net\cd posts

C:\ronfez.net\posts\cd current_thread

C:\ronfez.net\posts\current_thread\replace *.* D:\VagPoop\blackcock*.jpg

[ShowerBench]

Stop being so jealous because Ron and Fez love me.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/FezRonCrazed.jpg

:thumbup:

[yojimbo7248]

:thumbup:

they look like brothers

[sink]

this place turned to shit quick

[jlehane3]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/j3lehane/Im_JOKINGsmall.jpg Back away slowly. :wacko:

[underdog]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/j3lehane/Im_JOKINGsmall.jpg Back away slowly. :wacko:

sailor.

[3Setsof10]

It is probably for the same reason you can post stalkerish, creepy posts talking about my personal character.

It's just a message board, you should really just get a life.

Let's see, you write long winded posts knocking a radio character and questioning the parenting skills of his wife and alluding to his child being retarded and neglected

So yeah, I'm going to call you a stalking, obsessed, lonely, insecure, cowardly, creepy, pathetic loser who has no character at all

You telling anyone to get a life is fucking hilarious

Turn the receiver off and see if you can function without it for a day- that whole diatribe was scary

[Dell]

Stop being so jealous because Ron and Fez love me.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/FezRonCrazed.jpg

hey...I know that guy...

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/spidescorp/TweekSig.jpg

funny...but strange...(like restraining order strange)...

[ShowerBench]

I could be wrong but I think everything Melk said was talked about on the air

[sailor]

sailor.

well played.

[mikeyboy]

Let's see, you write long winded posts knocking a radio character and questioning the parenting skills of his wife and alluding to his child being retarded and neglected

So yeah, I'm going to call you a stalking, obsessed, lonely, insecure, cowardly, creepy, pathetic loser who has no character at all

You telling anyone to get a life is fucking hilarious

Turn the receiver off and see if you can function without it for a day- that whole diatribe was scary

Cut the shit. Discuss without the personal attacks. No more warnings.

[Melk]

I could be wrong but I think everything Melk said was talked about on the air
You are right. ALL of the claims I posted were made on air. I haven't accused anyone of any of those things. Dave's kid was called slow on the air. I think it is odd to call an infant child retarded on the air. I don't think Casey is a bad parent, because I don't know her, I don't follow her Twitter or ANY other Ron and Fez fan outside of this board (No offense to anyone on here). I have not made any claims that were not made on the show by the staff or the rare caller.

I think it is odd how Dave's role on the show allows him to imply Earl's dead grandmother is having random sexual encounters with infamous dead people. Earl asks Dave to quit and is treated to two other taunts. Dave needs to be a gentleman when it comes to his co-workers' personal lives if he wishes to command the same respect.

[Goatweed]

Cut the shit. Discuss without the personal attacks. No more warnings.so what's this announcement business all about Mikey?

[Goatweed]

You are right. ALL of the claims I posted were made on air. I haven't accused anyone of any of those things. Dave's kid was called slow on the air. I think it is odd to call an infant child retarded on the air. I don't think Casey is a bad parent, because I don't know her, I don't follow her Twitter or ANY other Ron and Fez fan outside of this board (No offense to anyone on here). I have not made any claims that were not made on the show by the staff or the rare caller.

I think it is odd how Dave's role on the show allows him to imply Earl's dead grandmother is having random sexual encounters with infamous dead people. Earl asks Dave to quit and is treated to two other taunts. Dave needs to be a gentleman when it comes to his co-workers' personal lives if he wishes to command the same respect.it's a radio show, you really don't need to think about it in such great detail.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

it's a radio show, you really don't need to think about it in such great detail.

ugh, what's the point of that statement? to make him feel dumb, or like he doesn't have a life? let him think about it as much as he wants. no doubt most of the listeners wouldn't understand posting about the show at all, regardless of detail level.

[3Setsof10]

ugh, what's the point of that statement? to make him feel dumb, or like he doesn't have a life? let him think about it as much as he wants. no doubt most of the listeners wouldn't understand posting about the show at all, regardless of detail level.

That works

Why was there the need to imply Dave's kid was retarded?

[spoon]

Cut the shit. Discuss without the personal attacks. No more warnings.

He's all talk, don't believe this guy for one second.

[PapaBear]

He's all talk, don't believe this guy for one second.
Yeah. What kind of man needs a hamster to do his dirty work?

[spoon]

Yeah. What kind of man needs a hamster to do his dirty work?

Alex, I'm going to go with...What is hammersavage, tenbats and richard gere?

[hammersavage]

a gerbil is not a hamster

[PapaBear]

a gerbil is not a hamster
I love this game! A spoon is not a fork.

[spoon]

I love this game! A spoon is not a fork.

a papabear does root for a shitty football team!

[ShowerBench]

I think it is odd how Dave's role on the show allows him to imply Earl's dead grandmother is having random sexual encounters with infamous dead people.

Ron and Fez and discussions about Ron and Fez..sometimes the most uncomfortable or serious topics and conversations to listen to/read, but no matter what, you'll end up making or seeing someone make points like the above and remember why you listen. :lol:

[Melk]

That works

Why was there the need to imply Dave's kid was retarded?
Good question. Ask the on air talent.

I never implied that Dave's kid was retarded. I was asking why it was okay for people to imply that Dave's kid is retarded. There was a whole break on it.

When Dave would argue with Earl, he would do hilarious jokes about Earl's grandmother is making love to Hitler in hell.

Dave has an argument with Fez, Fez chooses to attack Dave by going after family members and it becomes a problem. Perhaps next time, Dave can choke Fez.

I agree with many of the points that Fez says about the public needling he is getting from Dave. I don't think there is a conspiracy, I don't think Casey is in on it, but Dave is needling Fez a little too much. And it seems, work or shoot, that Dave is permitted a ton more wiggle room when it comes to his on-air actions and the way he fights with others.

[Melk]

Ron and Fez and discussions about Ron and Fez..sometimes the most uncomfortable or serious topics and conversations to listen to/read, but no matter what, you'll end up making or seeing someone make points like the above and remember why you listen. :lol:
Right back at you, ShowerBench. I like the show. I hope that it continues in its current form (and that includes Dave).

[Melk]

a papabear does root for a shitty football team!
Say what you want about me, but leave the Detroit Lions out of this!

[drjoek]

ease up on the name calling.

Miss "Knock it off" Mikeyboy

[3Setsof10]

Good question. Ask the on air talent.

I never implied that Dave's kid was retarded. I was asking why it was okay for people to imply that Dave's kid is retarded. There was a whole break on it.

When Dave would argue with Earl, he would do hilarious jokes about Earl's grandmother is making love to Hitler in hell.

Dave has an argument with Fez, Fez chooses to attack Dave by going after family members and it becomes a problem. Perhaps next time, Dave can choke Fez.

I agree with many of the points that Fez says about the public needling he is getting from Dave. I don't think there is a conspiracy, I don't think Casey is in on it, but Dave is needling Fez a little too much. And it seems, work or shoot, that Dave is permitted a ton more wiggle room when it comes to his on-air actions and the way he fights with others.

Knock that shit off, you're not in either business to use that vernacular and it makes you look ridiculous

And all of that above has nothing to do with your original post. Nothing.

Why did you write your assertions that Casey was lazy or a bad parent? WTF does that have to do with a radio character? Why are you so obsessed with these two? Why can't you enjoy the show without calling Dave "classless" and saying he and Casey are bad parents?

Seriously, what's wrong with you?

[Melk]

And all of that above has nothing to do with your original post. Nothing.
Why did you write your assertions that Casey was lazy or a bad parent? WTF does that have to do with a radio character? Why are you so obsessed with these two? Why can't you enjoy the show without calling Dave "classless" and saying he and Casey are bad parents?
Seriously, what's wrong with you?
This is what I wrote:
Why is Casey so much more emotionally fragile than her daughter? Of course, the retardation line was never dropped on the show (meaning, it has been a topic on the show more than once), but when a caller suggested that it is "difficult for an infant to learn to walk when her mother is in PalTalk all day" the suggestion is eliminated from the discussion.

I suppose it better that Juliana is "retarded" and not "neglected.":thumbdown:


I did not say Dave's daughter is retarded. I said that it is lame that the feelings of Dave's daughter aren't more respected than Dave's wife.

As far as that having to do with a radio character, I am only basing my comments from on-air information. Dave and Fez might be exaggerating their personal problems. Thus, the work or shoot comment.

I think it is no more or less funny to make fun of Earl's dead grandmother, Dave's kids, Dave's wife, Dave, Fez or anyone else. If Dave wants his wife to be off-limits for comment, then he should at the very least respect Fez and back off the Fez-bashing.

[3Setsof10]

This is what I wrote:


I did not say Dave's daughter is retarded. I said that it is lame that the feelings of Dave's daughter aren't more respected than Dave's wife.

As far as that having to do with a radio character, I am only basing my comments from on-air information. Dave and Fez might be exaggerating their personal problems. Thus, the work or shoot comment.

I think it is no more or less funny to make fun of Earl's dead grandmother, Dave's kids, Dave's wife, Dave, Fez or anyone else. If Dave wants his wife to be off-limits for comment, then he should at the very least respect Fez and back off the Fez-bashing.

Do you know these people personally?

No?

Then WTF do you care??

[ShowerBench]

Knock that shit off, you're not in either business to use that vernacular and it makes you look ridiculous

And all of that above has nothing to do with your original post. Nothing.

Why did you write your assertions that Casey was lazy or a bad parent? WTF does that have to do with a radio character? Why are you so obsessed with these two? Why can't you enjoy the show without calling Dave "classless" and saying he and Casey are bad parents?

Seriously, what's wrong with you?

He doesn't sound that "obsessed," sounds like he's just putting out those facts as support for an argument.

[3Setsof10]

He doesn't sound that "obsessed," sounds like he's just putting out those facts as support for an argument.

What argument? It's a show on satellite radio, WTF could he actually want to argue about?

[West.Coast.Skippy]

What argument? It's a show on satellite radio, WTF could he actually want to argue about?

what do you care, he's a poster on an internet message board?

[Gvac]

After hearing today's show and everything Fez has been through I think it's understandable why he's not overly trusting these days.

Identity theft sucks, and I hope the perpetrators are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

It's one of the lowest, slimiest things anyone can do.

[mikeyboy]

After hearing today's show and everything Fez has been through I think it's understandable why he's not overly trusting these days.

Identity theft sucks, and I hope the perpetrators are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

It's one of the lowest, slimiest things anyone can do.

Agreed. It really sucks.

Also, the pulling back of the curtain today provided an awful lot of context as to why Fez believes the things that he does, and it's really terrible what he's going through. The fact that there are people out there targeting Fez (and Dave) for things that they say or do on the air is truly disgusting. Hearing in addition to the stealing, there is someone harassing, Fez, Dave and their families, really made my blood boil. I can't believe there are classless douchebags who feel it's okay to anonymously take on people they likely don't even know because of what they hear on a radio show. These kinds of shitbags should be arrested or committed.

[3Setsof10]

Agreed. It really sucks.

Also, the pulling back of the curtain today provided an awful lot of context as to why Fez believes the things that he does, and it's really terrible what he's going through. The fact that there are people out there targeting Fez (and Dave) for things that they say or do on the air is truly disgusting. Hearing in addition to the stealing, there is someone harassing, Fez, Dave and their families, really made my blood boil. I can't believe there are classless douchebags who feel it's okay to anonymously take on people they likely don't even know because of what they hear on a radio show. These kinds of shitbags should be arrested or committed.

I agree with this 100%

Obsessing over someone because of what they do or who they are related to on a radio show is absolutely pathetic

[Gvac]

I can't believe there are classless douchebags who feel it's okay to anonymously take on people they likely don't even know because of what they hear on a radio show. These kinds of shitbags should be arrested or committed.

Amen.

Ditto for the scumbags who go after message board posters and people on web sites that they're "at war" with.

[3Setsof10]

Amen.

Ditto for the scumbags who go after message board posters and people on web sites that they're "at war" with.

Should they be arrested and committed as well?

Cause that's pretty harsh over words on the Internet, when the first example had to do with someone getting very personal and bringing family into it

Maybe you should clarify, as I think people who think they're a part of some satellite radio show should have their heads examined

[Gvac]

The thread is about Fez, not you.

Or your silly little internet vendettas.

Take that to another board.

Thanks!

[styckx]

The important lesson here is only Gvac can make blanket statements, give orders, and ask the questions.

[3Setsof10]

The thread is about Fez, not you.

Or your silly little internet vendettas.

Take that to another board.

Thanks!

LOL Now you're the boss here? Shut up

Stop trying to marginalize your stupid shit to suit your warped needs, it's nothing to do with "vendettas" or anything else, I have an opinion and the ability to express it

So deal with it

[Gvac]

Why don't you two fairies go back to whatever internet site you came from.

I'm sure you're well respected badasses there.

Again, the thread is in the RON AND FEZ forum.

It's about FEZ.

Stop trying to make an internet name for yourselves by taking on the legendary Gvac.

I'm so far out of your league it's laughable.

Back to your Dungeons and Dragons game you silly larpers!

[BlackSpider]

KNOCK IT OFF..!!!



Well said, Gvac.
Well said...

[brettmojo]

Why don't you two fairies go back to whatever internet site you came from.

I'm sure you're well respected badasses there.

Again, the thread is in the RON AND FEZ forum.

It's about FEZ.

Stop trying to make an internet name for yourselves by taking on the legendary Gvac.

I'm so far out of your league it's laughable.

Back to your Dungeons and Dragons game you silly larpers!
Blowvac?

[Gvac]

Well said, Gvac.
Well said...

Thanks buddy!

So as I was saying, I feel awful for Fez, Dave, and anyone who has to deal with anonymous assholes taking swipes at their personal lives.

It's cowardice in its purest form.

[3Setsof10]

Why don't you two fairies go back to whatever internet site you came from.

I'm sure you're well respected badasses there.

Again, the thread is in the RON AND FEZ forum.

It's about FEZ.

Stop trying to make an internet name for yourselves by taking on the legendary Gvac.

I'm so far out of your league it's laughable.

Back to your Dungeons and Dragons game you silly larpers!

Oh right, so this thread isn't all about YOU and YOUR sad need to insert yourself into a radio show's drama?

You're pathetic, you're delusional, and you're not entertaining or funny

So knock it off

[Gvac]

Oh right, so this thread isn't all about YOU and YOUR sad need to insert yourself into a radio show's drama?

You're pathetic, you're delusional, and you're not entertaining or funny

So knock it off

No, it's not.

It's called interacting with the show.

It's what RONFEZ.net is all about.

Stop being so jealous and wishing you were me.

It's sad and pathetic.

[BlackSpider]

Oh right, so this thread isn't all about YOU and YOUR sad need to insert yourself into a radio show's drama?

You're pathetic, you're delusional, and you're not entertaining or funny

So knock it off

I find Gvac both entertaining, and funny.
Some people don't like him because he tells the truth...

[brettmojo]

I find Gvac both entertaining, and funny.
Some people don't like him because he tells the truth...
So scones really are for sissies?

[3Setsof10]

No, it's not.

It's called interacting with the show.

It's what RONFEZ.net is all about.

Stop being so jealous and wishing you were me.

It's sad and pathetic.

Yeah, you're not delusional at all

Maybe it's that fruity hat

And it's a radio show, you're part of the audience, you listen- that doesn't mean you should interact, even if they allow or encourage it

Unless one of the hosts is nailing you, then that's another story

[Hottub]

LOL Now you're the boss here? Shut up

Stop trying to marginalize your stupid shit to suit your warped needs, it's nothing to do with "vendettas" or anything else, I have an opinion and the ability to express it

So deal with it

No! Gvac is not the boss here.
But I am.

Cut the personal bullshit right now or get ready to pack your bags.
No joke!

[3Setsof10]

No! Gvac is not the boss here.
But I am.

Cut the personal bullshit right now or get ready to pack your bags.
No joke!

Oooooh, I'm terrified

Show me where I made it personal with this guy, outside of talking about the hat that's IN HIS AV

Show me where I talked about his family
Show me where I talked about his personal life

I commented on his ridiculous behavior here, and if you have to flex your Net muscles to show how much of a big badass you think you are then you go right ahead

Just make sure you're doing it for reasons other than the ones above, because I'm not doing anything different than what anyone else who is still here posting isn't already doing

God, that I AM A MOD AND WILL USE MY POWER routine is just soooo old

[Hottub]

You know goddam well what I am talking about! Don't play cute.

Maintaining order and civility is what it's all about, not being an internet douchebag.

[sink]

Oooooh, I'm terrified

Show me where I made it personal with this guy, outside of talking about the hat that's IN HIS AV

Show me where I talked about his family
Show me where I talked about his personal life

I commented on his ridiculous behavior here, and if you have to flex your Net muscles to show how much of a big badass you think you are then you go right ahead

Just make sure you're doing it for reasons other than the ones above, because I'm not doing anything different than what anyone else who is still here posting isn't already doing

God, that I AM A MOD AND WILL USE MY POWER routine is just soooo old


oh, that's just the boss tub doing what tub does

[sink]

You know goddam well what I am talking about! Don't play cute.

Maintaining order and civility is what it's all about, not being an internet douchebag.

order and civility?

Have you read this shithole lately?

[3Setsof10]

You know goddam well what I am talking about! Don't play cute.

Maintaining order and civility is what it's all about, not being an internet douchebag.

Oh really?

So it's now some subversive personal attacks? I'm supposed to know what you're talking about?

Are you kidding?

Toss that message out to everyone and stop being selective because it's an opinion that you don't agree with

[sink]

Oh really?

So it's now some subversive personal attacks? I'm supposed to know what you're talking about?

Are you kidding?

Toss that message out to everyone and stop being selective because it's an opinion that you don't agree with

I wonder what would happen if all the shit that is said about Casey on here changed to HTG what they reaction would be.

[Hottub]

I wonder what would happen if all the shit that is said about Casey on here changed to HTG what they reaction would be.

Any board member in good standing.

[sink]

Any board member in good standing.

uh, ok

[ShowerBench]

Oh right, so this thread isn't all about YOU and YOUR sad need to insert yourself into a radio show's drama?

You're pathetic, you're delusional, and you're not entertaining or funny

So knock it off

Why are you so emotionally invested in what you claim to regard as pathetic actions on others' parts?

[3Setsof10]

Why are you so emotionally invested in what you claim to regard as pathetic actions on others' parts?

Where's the emotion?

Are you joking?

[JerseyRich]

Yeah, you're not delusional at all

Maybe it's that fruity hat

And it's a radio show, you're part of the audience, you listen- that doesn't mean you should interact, even if they allow or encourage it

Unless one of the hosts is nailing you, then that's another story

Oooooh, I'm terrified

Show me where I made it personal with this guy, outside of talking about the hat that's IN HIS AV

Show me where I talked about his family
Show me where I talked about his personal life

I commented on his ridiculous behavior here, and if you have to flex your Net muscles to show how much of a big badass you think you are then you go right ahead

Just make sure you're doing it for reasons other than the ones above, because I'm not doing anything different than what anyone else who is still here posting isn't already doing

God, that I AM A MOD AND WILL USE MY POWER routine is just soooo old

Oh really?

So it's now some subversive personal attacks? I'm supposed to know what you're talking about?

Are you kidding?

Toss that message out to everyone and stop being selective because it's an opinion that you don't agree with

Didn't Gvac already kick the shit out of you 6 years ago in the ring?

[ShowerBench]

Why don't you two fairies go back to whatever internet site you came from.

I'm sure you're well respected badasses there.

Again, the thread is in the RON AND FEZ forum.

It's about FEZ.

Stop trying to make an internet name for yourselves by taking on the legendary Gvac.

I'm so far out of your league it's laughable.

Back to your Dungeons and Dragons game you silly larpers!

Truth Bomb

[ShowerBench]

Where's the emotion?

Are you joking?

Mocking, but not joking

[3Setsof10]

Didn't Gvac already kick the shit out of you 6 years ago in the ring?

What????

I love the condescending attitudes of people named Shower Bench

[hydee]

Why are you so emotionally invested in what you claim to regard as pathetic actions on others' parts?

I love your sig pic dealy.

[mikeyboy]

What the fuck is wrong with you half-retarded pissants that you feel the need to have a dick measuring contest on a messageboard about a radio show? This thread has turned beyond pathetic. I'm pointing fingers at a lot of you right now.

[RADIO-SHARK]

I wonder if Sound Board Fez,s finances are safe ??? :innocent:

[hammersavage]

10 fingers at most.

[JerseyRich]

What????

I love the condescending attitudes of people named Shower Bench

Just trying to do some detective work to see if you're actually Tenbats posting as 3setsof10...

I'm a terrible detective.

Carry on. :tongue:

[Lil oc]

I'm pointing fingers at a lot of you right now.

It's not nice to point.

[JerseyRich]

What the fuck is wrong with you half-retarded pissants that you feel the need to have a dick measuring contest on a messageboard about a radio show? This thread has turned beyond pathetic. I'm pointing fingers at a lot of you right now.

Starvin'....We got any lady fingers? :wink:

[BlackSpider]

Starvin'....We got any lady fingers? :wink:

HAHAHA...

[Legit Bill]

I wonder what would happen if all the shit that is said about Casey on here changed to HTG what they reaction would be.

people would be called.....out.

[Gvac]

Put up the bat signal!

Call in the reinforcements!

"Let's all go to RonFez.net and gang up on someone!"

Grow up children.

And go to bed.

It's a school night.

[Crash]

Where's the emotion?

Are you joking?

Maybe it's just me...

,,,but I'm sensing a little anger here.

[JerseyRich]

Maybe it's just me...

,,,but I'm sensing a little anger here.

It's more than that...
It's a little

DENSION!

[3Setsof10]

Put up the bat signal!

Call in the reinforcements!

"Let's all go to RonFez.net and gang up on someone!"

Grow up children.

And go to bed.

It's a school night.

Yeah, this isn't personal or emotional or condescending

Don't get all shook up because your sad little world got interrupted

Try and focus on the posts and respond rationally instead of hormonally

[mikeyboy]

Fucking douchebags. All of you.