Guess I'll be the guy to do it...these decade shows are aggravating!

[K.C.]

It'd be a lot easier to listen to if they just said that these are thing they personally like instead of portraying the shows as a retrospective of the decade...where to begin:

1) Ron saying essentially that Roger Federer doesn't matter for athlete of the decade because "all of our best athletes don't play sports like that" is ridiculous...the entire WORLD plays and focuses most on sports like Tennis, Soccer, Swimming, Track & Field, etc...this guy is arguably the greatest Tennis player of all time and has dominated an extremely competitive decade of tennis playing....the argument gets even more aggravating when he dismisses Dave picking Federer and then picks a fucking GOLFER...it's a skill, not a sport.

2) Dave, did you even watch Rome? How the hell can you say that's the worst TV show of the decade because "there's no action"?? It's one of the most violent shows HBO has ever produced! The arena episode....the Battle of Phillipi...the murder of Caesar....Antony sliting Pompey's son's throat in the street.....Pullo's execution of Cicero...again, did you even watch the show?

3) While I agree that Fez's music picks made me queasy, if you're doing a retrospective of the decade, how the hell can you not acknowledge the fact that the merger of reality TV with the record industry (along with Disney essentially investing in pop acts) is exactly why pop music was so shitty for this entire decade and is essentially the driving force of the record industry these days.

4) Saying the Lakers are the team of the decade simply because they won the most championships is way too simplistic....first off, do they even give consideration to sustained success? The Yankees made the playoffs in the hardest sport to make the playoffs 9 of 10 years...the Patriots won something like 7 division titles and had a ridiculous winning percentage for the decade...

5) I know that Ron hates fantasy movies, for the most part, but again, how can you do a retrospective of the decade in movies and not mention Lord of the Rings once in the entire hour?

[paulisded]

Basically you're saying that R&F are wrong in airing these because you're hearing opinions that differ than yours.

That's silly.

Any show of this sort (or magazine feature) is going to be based on individual opinions. Yes, bigger magazines will be more of a consensus because they'll be polling all of their writers. But are the lists in Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly, or Mojo - or shows on E!, VH1, or Fuse - any more satisfying? I've been enjoying listening to the things that the staff on the show like or dislike...even if I don't agree at all. So Dave hated a show that you liked, or you don't agree with Ron's assessment of Roger Federer? That goes along with the territory.

[Dell]

I have been enjoying the decade recaps…I hope they recorded a decadal superlatives show…

[K.C.]

Basically you're saying that R&F are wrong in airing these because you're hearing opinions that differ than yours.

That's silly.

Any show of this sort (or magazine feature) is going to be based on individual opinions. Yes, bigger magazines will be more of a consensus because they'll be polling all of their writers. But are the lists in Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly, or Mojo - or shows on E!, VH1, or Fuse - any more satisfying? I've been enjoying listening to the things that the staff on the show like or dislike...even if I don't agree at all. So Dave hated a show that you liked, or you don't agree with Ron's assessment of Roger Federer? That goes along with the territory.

I'm not saying they're wrong in what they're doing...I'm just saying their opinions are aggravating.

Some in terms of excluding things from discussion of the topic (i.e. not mentioning LOTR in the movie discussion), some just for their insanity (i.e. Dave on Rome).

It's not even a thing of "my opinion's not represented," or "things I like got trashed" (although, I'm sure it'll read like that to everyone at first glance)

The arguments are just aggravating. Federer's not a legit athlete because the best athletes in this country play football and baseball, but yet they pick Tiger Woods two minutes later?

Someone trashes a show based on lack of violence, when the show is inherently violent if anyone's ever watched it....some of it just made no sense.

Obviously, they're entitled to do whatever they want, and they're not any different than every other outlet doing this shit. But at the same time, I want to discuss why I think the shows have been aggravating.

[danlaroe]

I'm not saying they're wrong in what they're doing...I'm just saying their opinions are aggravating.

Some in terms of excluding things from discussion of the topic (i.e. not mentioning LOTR in the movie discussion), some just for their insanity (i.e. Dave on Rome).

It's not even a thing of "my opinion's not represented," or "things I like got trashed" (although, I'm sure it'll read like that to everyone at first glance)

The arguments are just aggravating. Federer's not a legit athlete because the best athletes in this country play football and baseball, but yet they pick Tiger Woods two minutes later?

Someone trashes a show based on lack of violence, when the show is inherently violent if anyone's ever watched it....some of it just made no sense.

Obviously, they're entitled to do whatever they want, and they're not any different than every other outlet doing this shit. But at the same time, I want to discuss why I think the shows have been aggravating.

what a bunch of selfish assholes ron and fez are. god i wish they didnt take time out of there schedules to go and mafe the fans these segments . what i wouldnt do of one more hour of best ofs a day instead of all this new material. fuck lord of the rings hobbit fucker.

[Tall_James]

The 70's was a better decade. That's all I gots to say.

[EliSnow]

The 70's was a better decade. That's all I gots to say.

Let me know when you get the cease and desist letter from the Blowhard.

[dolfangreg]

I'm an audible subscriber and I want to know why we don't get the hour decade shows. I want to hear them. Does anyone know where I can here them. On Audible they just have Best of

[Tall_James]

Let me know when you get the cease and desist letter from the Blowhard.

I'll ask him. He's sitting next to me and we're drinking Diet Rite Cola and watching Little Rascals shorts together.

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[STC-Dub]

Isn't that pretty much how the show works? I would never have considered LOTR for a movie of the decade and I doubt it would have even come up for me. I am just glad there is new content during their vacation.

[K.C.]

Isn't that pretty much how the show works? I would never have considered LOTR for a movie of the decade and I doubt it would have even come up for me. I am just glad there is new content during their vacation.

I didn't say it was the movie of the decade...I said how do you not mention it in an hour discussion about movies of the 2000s.

[epo]

I take them with a grain of salt. Its an extra hour of goodness, albeit imperfect in many ways as ESD & Fez seem to be generally intoxicated.

[Snoogans]

the argument gets even more aggravating when he dismisses Dave picking Federer and then picks a fucking GOLFER...it's a skill, not a sport.



you are so fuckin wrong about this it isnt even funny. Golf is so much a sport. Do people not understand that swinging and hand eye and all that makes it a sport? Anyone who has never played golf, go play 18 holes. When you wake up the next day and the center 2/3's of your body feels like you were at the gym, you will understand

[Chigworthy]

So they aren't backing their best-of picks with extensive surveys to make sure that they are the most popular answer? That's it, I"M DONE with this show.

[K.C.]

So they aren't backing their best-of picks with extensive surveys to make sure that they are the most popular answer? That's it, I"M DONE with this show.

Never have so many people missed the point in.....oh, wait, where am I again....nevermind.

[underdog]

I like how most people don't seem to realize K.C. is just trying to add a different view point to things. We should just attack him instead.

K.C., their sports show was the most aggravating for me, but whenever any of them attempt to talk sports, I get super aggravated.

[Marc with a c]

you are so fuckin wrong about this it isnt even funny. Golf is so much a sport. Do people not understand that swinging and hand eye and all that makes it a sport? Anyone who has never played golf, go play 18 holes. When you wake up the next day and the center 2/3's of your body feels like you were at the gym, you will understand

if i walked six miles tomorrow i'd be sore, certainly doesn't make it a sport. i've said it before, but if an eighty year old can beat me at something it isn't a sport.

[Snoogans]

if i walked six miles tomorrow i'd be sore, certainly doesn't make it a sport. i've said it before, but if an eighty year old can beat me at something it isn't a sport.

i guarantee you there are old people who can whip your ass at tennis. I bet bill russell would still whip your ass on a court.

And no, you wouldnt be sore like you would be from golf. its a hell of alot more than just walking. Try walking 5 miles while swinging a baseball bat as hard as you can like 125 times plus 75 other practice swings. Tell me you wouldnt have to be an athlete to do that

[Marc with a c]

i guarantee you there are old people who can whip your ass at tennis. I bet bill russell would still whip your ass on a court.

there is not one eighty year old on the planet that can beat me at tennis.

And no, you wouldnt be sore like you would be from golf. its a hell of alot more than just walking. Try walking 5 miles while swinging a baseball bat as hard as you can like 125 times plus 75 other practice swings. Tell me you wouldnt have to be an athlete to do that

you wouldn't have to be an athlete to walk five miles and swing a baseball bat as hard as you can 125 times plus 75 practice swings.

anybody that does that and claims they are an athlete for that reason alone is a moron.

[disneyspy]

there is not one eighty year old on the planet that can beat me at tennis.

but how many 80 year olds could you beat up?

[Marc with a c]

but how many 80 year olds could you beat up?

you'd be the first.

[ozzie]

i guarantee you there are old people who can whip your ass at tennis. I bet bill russell would still whip your ass on a court.

And no, you wouldnt be sore like you would be from golf. its a hell of alot more than just walking. Try walking 5 miles while swinging a baseball bat as hard as you can like 125 times plus 75 other practice swings. Tell me you wouldnt have to be an athlete to do that

You swing as hard as you can 125 times over 18 holes?

You might need more than 75 practice swings.

[Snoogans]

You swing as hard as you can 125 times over 18 holes?

You might need more than 75 practice swings.

no i swing practice swings as hard as regular swings. most people just dont. I was using an avg.

[Snoogans]

there is not one eighty year old on the planet that can beat me at tennis.



you wouldn't have to be an athlete to walk five miles and swing a baseball bat as hard as you can 125 times plus 75 practice swings.

anybody that does that and claims they are an athlete for that reason alone is a moron.

well anyone who does that is a moron. it was just the only similar thing to swinging a golf club i could think of

[disneyspy]

no i swing practice swings as hard as regular swings. most people just dont. I was using an avg.

youre not a very good golfer

[Marc with a c]

well anyone who does that is a moron. it was just the only similar thing to swinging a golf club i could think of

you also don't need to be an athlete to walk six miles swinging a golf club as hard as you can 200 times.

[disneyspy]

you also don't need to be an athlete to walk six miles swinging a golf club as hard as you can 200 times.

who the fuck shoots a 200 on the golf course?

you're worse than snoogans!

[Snoogans]

you also don't need to be an athlete to walk six miles swinging a golf club as hard as you can 200 times.

yea you kinda do. Come on bro. most people who arent athletes, they are gassed from 20 swings in a batting cage. You really do need to be athletic to play golf. And dont give me this bullshit about fat guys play. John Kruk played baseball. Oliver Miller was in teh NBA. You can be fat and an athlete, and you bet your fuckin ass golf is a goddamn sport

[Snoogans]

who the fuck shoots a 200 on the golf course?

you're worse than snoogans!

practice swings.

and if you had to walk 18 holes, id kick the shit out of you old man

[disneyspy]

practice swings.

and if you had to walk 18 holes, id kick the shit out of you old man

just dont give me the flu

[Marc with a c]

yea you kinda do. Come on bro. most people who arent athletes, they are gassed from 20 swings in a batting cage. You really do need to be athletic to play golf. And dont give me this bullshit about fat guys play. John Kruk played baseball. Oliver Miller was in teh NBA. You can be fat and an athlete, and you bet your fuckin ass golf is a goddamn sport

playing golf is the equivalent of going to the batting cage except you don't need a helmet.

[disneyspy]

playing golf is the equivalent of going to the batting cage except you don't need a helmet.

and you dont have to chase your ball

[Snoogans]

playing golf is the equivalent of going to the batting cage except you don't need a helmet.

if you have ever actually played golf, then you are just sayin this shit to piss me off. You know that this is fuckin insane. going to the driving range is like the batting cages sorta. Playing golf, especially if you ever walk the course, is nothing like it

[Snoogans]

and you dont have to chase your ball

you read it backwards old man

[Marc with a c]

if you have ever actually played golf, then you are just sayin this shit to piss me off. You know that this is fuckin insane. going to the driving range is like the batting cages sorta. Playing golf, especially if you ever walk the course, is nothing like it

i've played golf many times and walked. it is an incredibly difficult and frustrating activity. it isn't a sport.

[hanso]

Golf fight! I can't wait for the bowling brawl.

[Snoogans]

i've played golf many times and walked. it is an incredibly difficult and frustrating activity. it isn't a sport.

why cause you arent on a team? cause you dont run?

[Marc with a c]

Golf fight! I can't wait for the bowling brawl.

it is pretty much the same.

have you ever tried walking six miles in bowling shoes carrying a eight pound bag?

NO!!!! i fucking dare you to try it.

[Snoogans]

it is pretty much the same.

have you ever tried walking six miles in bowling shoes carrying a eight pound bag?

NO!!!! i fucking dare you to try it.

stop now. Im not talkin this nonsense bait. This is the dumbest thing i ever read and if you really mean it i can no longer talk to you. Id have a better time explaining it to my bong

[Marc with a c]

why cause you arent on a team? cause you dont run?

what am i nine? of course not. because eighty year olds can beat me at it. that's why it isn't a sport.

[Snoogans]

what am i nine? of course not. because eighty year olds can beat me at it. that's why it isn't a sport.

hank aaron would prob still beat you in baseball

[Marc with a c]

hank aaron would prob still beat you in baseball

i don't think he's eighty and how do you beat somebody at baseball?

[Snoogans]

i don't think he's eighty and how do you beat somebody at baseball?

he is hammerin hank. he'll find a way

[disneyspy]

i bet clint eastwood could whip marcs ass

[ozzie]

Henry Louis Aaron (born February 5, 1934 in Mobile, Alabama) is only 75.

He's disqualified.

Try taking on Yogi Berra instead.

[Marc with a c]

Try taking on Yogi Berra instead.

exactly snoogans.

yogi berra could probably beat me at golf. how the fuck is that a sport?

[Snoogans]

exactly snoogans.

yogi berra could probably beat me at golf. how the fuck is that a sport?

can he even walk anymore?

[Marc with a c]

can he even walk anymore?

i have no idea, but he can probably shoot a 96.

[spainlinx0]

I understand your point KC. I found the television discussion very frustrating. I understand having a difference of opinion. Dave's Rome bashing was just bizarre. It's like he watched a different show than the rest of us.

I was so shocked that someone actually watched the Wire. Ron bashes television all day long as being garbage, but he doesn't take the time to actually watch a lot of the better shows. Thankfully Pepper acknowledged it, although Office as the worst show was ridiculous, as Ron argued.

However I was SHOCKED when Ron picked Eternal Sunshine as his top movie. I have barely heard him mention this movie. I have no problem with his pick though. It might be my favorite movie of all time, but it's so stressing to watch that I can't watch it that often.

There were other frustrating moments, but I try not to get too wrapped up in it. It actually happens to me more during the news stories. They can't seem to be bothered to get basic facts about the topics they are discussing correct, and then they argue their positions on lack of facts. Still, I love the show.

[K.C.]

Tech show they just did was very good, although they completely missed Wii Sports in the video game talk which was easily the most massive impact game.

[Chigworthy]

I like how most people don't seem to realize K.C. is just trying to add a different view point to things.
Why do you like it?



We should just attack him instead.
We did. You haven't been paying attention.

[underdog]

Why do you like it?

Because K.C. is a jerk.

[Bob Impact]

I've really liked the shows but I also go into this knowing that their opinions aren't going to be mine. Outside of very few artists Ron and I rarely sync up on music, Dave only likes 5-6 bands from what I can tell and Fez doesn't know anything other than Tom Petty. I don't really watch movies or sports so those are out for me. The only thing that made me rage was Ron blowing off Dexter, I raaaaggggeeed.





Not really

[K.C.]

Because K.C. is a jerk.

shhhh!!!

don't blow up my spot'

[Freakshow]

C'mon, you act like Dave have never said something stupid, ill-informed, and downright wrong before. You act like he's never judged things without seeing/experiencing them. It's pretty much 90% of the show these days. It's his bit to get airtime...

Remember when he said a sandwich had to be on Wonder Bread. That pastrami on rye? Not a sandwich according to dave. Get it?

[disneyspy]

3) While I agree that Fez's music picks made me queasy, if you're doing a retrospective of the decade, how the hell can you not acknowledge the fact that the merger of reality TV with the record industry (along with Disney essentially investing in pop acts) is exactly why pop music was so shitty for this entire decade and is essentially the driving force of the record industry these days.

disney was the driving force behind the boy bands of the 90s and acts like christine agulara and brittany so it wasnt just this decade,like it or not its been around for a while and will continue putting out money makers in the recording industry

[spainlinx0]

Tech show they just did was very good, although they completely missed Wii Sports in the video game talk which was easily the most massive impact game.

Really? First of all he said 85% of people own an Ipod. That's higher than the percentage of people that own a computer. Sadly, I doubt he was using IPod as a generic for MP3 player either. He was woefully misinformed when it comes to technology.

Also, the Iphone was not the first phone to have internet capabilities and wasn't "copied" by Blackberry. The touchscreen was made really mainstream by Apple, but Smartphones weren't invented by Apple.

[fezident]

Really? First of all he said 85% of people own an Ipod. That's higher than the percentage of people that own a computer. Sadly, I doubt he was using IPod as a generic for MP3 player either. He was woefully misinformed when it comes to technology.

Hmmm. Maybe not as misinformed as you think.
Dave is a long distance commuter. (as am I)

When you spend 5 hours a day on buses and trains and subways, you tend to see a fuck of a lot of Ipods and mp3 players. You're surrounded by people who have them. I've noticed it.

He's definitely wrong to say that 85 percent of people have iPods but... in his world... that's accurate. And maybe even a little low. Again... I'm not saying he's right, but I am saying that he didn't just randomly feel like getting some mic time about this. Almost every seat is occupied with some form of handheld headphone music player.

[spainlinx0]

Hmmm. Maybe not as misinformed as you think.
Dave is a long distance commuter. (as am I)

When you spend 5 hours a day on buses and trains and subways, you tend to see a fuck of a lot of Ipods and mp3 players. You're surrounded by people who have them. I've noticed it.

He's definitely wrong to say that 85 percent of people have iPods but... in his world... that's accurate. And maybe even a little low. Again... I'm not saying he's right, but I am saying that he didn't just randomly feel like getting some mic time about this. Almost every seat is occupied with some form of handheld headphone music player.

The plural of anecdote is not data. The number in this country as of the latest statistics I could find, was 20% of people own a portable mp3 player. That's portable mp3 player, not even the 85% Ipod ownership he was touting. So I don't think his 85% number was "a little low."

Whether he says these crazy things for mic time, or because he's just that uninformed is up to how you want to listen to it. I cannot imagine a person could honestly say to themselves they believe in global warming because they don't get ice skates from their mom anymore.

Still loving the best of's though. Listening to the news one as I type this.

[fezident]

Yes. I get what you're saying.

What I'M saying is, Dave was actually saying something that he felt (knew) to be true.

I was recently on a train, and there was a mechanical problem. We sat at a station for about 8 minutes... and then an announcement came over the PA telling everyone to get off this train, and walk across the platform to another train. Almost nobody got up. Almost nobody heard the announcement. Literally... maybe 5 people weren't wearing headphones. Eventually... people had to start tapping people on the shoulder and mouth the words "get off the train" to us.

If I were Dave... and then I finally got to my job and see the janitor (facilities!) and my coworkers with iPods.... yeah... I might think that number is higher than 20 percent. Oh, and the one guy who doesn't have one is an antisocial weirdo who is woefully behind the times when it comes to technology and social skills.

You are correct that Dave didn't do even one minute of research before spouting his statistics. But, what I'm saying is, he didn't feel like he was saying anything outlandish. I mean... he DID say "take a look around you on the street and on the subway, everybody is listening to an ipod". I knew what he meant.

[spainlinx0]

Again I say to you, the plural of anecdote is not data. You're saying the one guy who doesn't have it is the antisocial weirdo, when 4 out of 5 people don't have one.

I also find it bizarre that the people who don't walk around in their own worlds with headphones on are the antisocial ones. Seems a little ass backwards there.

That is the problem when people assume things. Experiences aren't universal. You can tell all your stories you want, but the fact is he made up facts, AS USUAL, and it just can get a little annoying sometimes. I love the guy, and think he's funny, but if he wants to grow as a broadcaster he may want to do a little research. I know it's easier to spout off at the mouth, but usually people try to do some basic fact checking.

[fezident]

Really, dude?
Really?

I am saying that, in this show about OPINIONS, Dave's is not without merit. Nobody was pretending or claiming to have done any fact-checking.
The whole concept of the show was to express their opinion. Dave then mentioned his opinon... and even stated why/how he arrived at that opinion. He mentioned, quite clearly, that on HIS commute from NJ to NYC that he sees an shhhhitload of ipods (or at least, some type of portable headphone player). Apple has sold 210 million ipods. That's data. Apple has sold, literally, billions of songs. That's data.

Dave saying "everyone has an iPod" is like saying "everyone likes pizza". He's right. Everyone does like pizza. Not ev-er-y-one but, we all know what the point is. It's fuckin' popular.

Dave might've overstated his point, but... the point he's making is a valid one.

If you were playing Family Feud, and the question was "name a popular device invented sometime in the last ten years", you would almost have to answer "iPod".
Or you could try your luck and say "the plural of anecdote is not data" and hope that it's up there.

[Chigworthy]

You're saying the one guy who doesn't have it is the antisocial weirdo, when 4 out of 5 people don't have one.

I also find it bizarre that the people who don't walk around in their own worlds with headphones on are the antisocial ones. Seems a little ass backwards there.


Someone hates .mp3 players. And stop saying "the plural of anecdote".

[ozzie]

The plural of golf is not sport.

Stay on topic.

[sailor]

85% = hyperbole

[foodcourtdruide]

Dave constantly exaggerates and lies to make his point. I agree with spainlinx. Why can't we call him out on making stuff up?

[danlaroe]

Dave constantly exaggerates and lies to make his point. I agree with spainlinx. Why can't we call him out on making stuff up?

he ate his own shit. how serious do you want to take him. its entertainment not cnn...you black hole of fun..just suck suck sucking up all the fun

[Chigworthy]

Dave constantly exaggerates and lies to make his point. I agree with spainlinx. Why can't we call him out on making stuff up?

You can. Just don't say "plural of anecdote".

[foodcourtdruide]

he ate his own shit. how serious do you want to take him. its entertainment not cnn...you black hole of fun..just suck suck sucking up all the fun

In case you haven't noticed, Dave is not stuntman anymore. He's an intelligent guy who has a lot of good opinions and knowledge to add to the show. Ron goes to him to be a contributor to the conversation. It's frustrating when he backs himself into a corner, then lies or aggressively backpeddles his way out of it.

And why does expecting someone in a conversation to be factually correct make you a "black hole of fun"? THE PLURAL OF ANECDOTE IS NOT DATA!!!!!!@#$

[danlaroe]

In case you haven't noticed, Dave is not stuntman anymore. He's an intelligent guy who has a lot of good opinions and knowledge to add to the show. Ron goes to him to be a contributor to the conversation. It's frustrating when he backs himself into a corner, then lies or aggressively backpeddles his way out of it.

And why does expecting someone in a conversation to be factually correct make you a "black hole of fun"? THE PLURAL OF ANECDOTE IS NOT DATA!!!!!!@#$

because when someones listens to a comedy show and then nitpicks it for statistics you are RUINING the fun.....you are no fun...get it..when you enter a room fun gets sucked all up and everyone is standing around wondering what happened..the show is great..you sir not so great

[underdog]

because when someones listens to a comedy show and then nitpicks it for statistics you are RUINING the fun.....you are no fun...get it..when you enter a room fun gets sucked all up and everyone is standing around wondering what happened..the show is great..you sir not so great

I think foodcourtdruide is great.

[sailor]

I think foodcourtdruide is great.

[disneyspy]

I think foodcourtdruide is great.

i agree with sailor

[foodcourtdruide]

I agree with disneyspy

[foodcourtdruide]

because when someones listens to a comedy show and then nitpicks it for statistics you are RUINING the fun.....you are no fun...get it..when you enter a room fun gets sucked all up and everyone is standing around wondering what happened..the show is great..you sir not so great

I think the show is great. I love it. When Ron's giving a great interview do you think the show is a comedy show that shouldn't be taken seriously?


Ron and Fez definitely go beyond being a typical comedy show. Ask Dave if he wants to just be considered a joke that we should never take seriously. Do you think that's his intent? The show has different aspects to it. If Dave is playing Dave Leno I won't question the validity of his points, but while he's in a grown up conversation I"d prefer if he didn't waste everyones time with idiotic hyperbole's.


Edit: and I want to add, I freakin love Dave!!! I think he's a brilliant guy.

[danlaroe]

f c d is not great. im fucking great. get use to it. anyone care to discuss without the threat of banning?

[danlaroe]

bumpity bump

[spainlinx0]

That was my point. If I'm not supposed to take it seriously, maybe he should have made a joke at some point during that discussion. That was not a "comedy" segment. It was a discussion of most important technology. I disagree with his assessments, and I stated why. Sorry I used a phrase too many times for the rest of you, but the point is personal experiences do not make a fact correct.

[foodcourtdruide]

That was my point. If I'm not supposed to take it seriously, maybe he should have made a joke at some point during that discussion. That was not a "comedy" segment. It was a discussion of most important technology. I disagree with his assessments, and I stated why. Sorry I used a phrase too many times for the rest of you, but the point is personal experiences do not make a fact correct.

In other words, the plural of anecdote is not data.

[Chigworthy]

personal experiences do not make a fact correct.

Stop saying that.

[fezident]

http://everything2.com/title/The+plural+of+anecdote+is+not+data

[foodcourtdruide]

http://everything2.com/title/The+plural+of+anecdote+is+not+data

The best retort to the statement, "The plural of anecdote is not data," is, "And the plural of 'datum' is not 'proof'!"

This is booger-eating level geekdom.

[spainlinx0]

And if you read that entire article, including the conclusion, you would have seen that while arguing the admitted cliche I was using, it also acknowledges that where data exists, as in studies showing ownership levels, anecdotes don't refute that. But, then again, I'll leave it alone from this point on because any type of discussion on this board that could veer into negative territory brings in the rabid posters who can't stand dissent. Nevermind that I have been listening to the show since 2001, listen to every show daily, and am even relistening to to WJFK shows when I run out of new Ron and Fez. I must not really be a fan because I disagree with a sentiment ESD shared and discussed why.

I'll stick to just shouting something sucks, then running away from any discussion. That's obviously the only way to enjoy posting on this shell of a board.