The Gulf Oil Spill

[CurseoftheBambi]

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SOCIALIZT!!!! THEY WANT A GOVERMINT HANDOUT!!!!!!!!!

[Barnaby Jones]

Guys like Rush are desperately trying to paint this as "Obama's Katrina!" Talk about LOL!

[CurseoftheBambi]

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it (Obama's Katrina) would be had obama had a forecast of incoming oil spil like Bush did with Katrina days before it hit land.

[torker]

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it (Obama's Katrina) would be had obama had a forecast of incoming oil spil like Bush did with Katrina days before it hit land.

Don Stugots leaves bigger rings around his tub.

[CurseoftheBambi]

Congressman Compares Gulf Oil Spil To 'Chocolate Milk', Says It Will 'Break Up Naturally'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/gene-taylor-mississippi-c_n_561362.html

(he's a moron...and he's a democrat...see...I'm not biased against Republicans...Democracts can be dumb fucks too.)

[CurseoftheBambi]

Don Stugots leaves bigger rings around his tub. Say wasn't Anthony MIA monday...i say this was caused by him...you know them italians...

[disneyspy]

Say wasn't Anthony MIA monday...i say this was caused by him...you know them italians...

HIM AND STUGOTS WERE HAVIN BUTT SEX ON A BOAT AND BOTH SLIPPED OVERBOARD

i bet

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Guys like Rush are desperately trying to paint this as "Obama's Katrina!" Talk about LOL!

Alex Jones and the conspiracy theorists are already saying that since Obama opened up Drilling about a month ago it was done by the gov't

[Furtherman]

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[brettmojo]

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it (Obama's Katrina) would be had obama had a forecast of incoming oil spil like Bush did with Katrina days before it hit land.
Looks delicious. Time for a milkshake.

[badmonkey]

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it (Obama's Katrina) would be had obama had a forecast of incoming oil spil like Bush did with Katrina days before it hit land.

So you're saying that he hasn't had since April 20th to come up with some sort of plan?

[OGC]

how soon do we see a spike in the gas prices that is blamed on this spill ?

[PapaBear]

how soon do we see a spike in the gas prices that is blamed on this spill ?
I'm more worried about the spike in sea food. And, the only way I see this raising the price of oil is if it's related to how much money BP loses.

[StanUpshaw]

And, the only way I see this raising the price of oil is if it's related to how much money BP loses.

I'm sure it will have less to do with any product loss, and far more with the billions it will cost for the cleanup.

Hmmm... (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i-Bq4GrZpMDSMrtPh6TBPh6-bHdAD9FFKDGO4)
A law passed in response to the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska makes BP responsible for cleanup costs. But the law sets a $75 million limit on other kinds of damages.

Well mother fucker.

[Recyclerz]

On the bright side, the second season of Treme is writing itself.

[CaptainBlowhole]

What reason could the government have for not deploying these oil burning booms in this scenario?
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/fire_boom_oil_spill_raines.html

[Syd]

What reason could the government have for not deploying these oil burning booms in this scenario?
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/fire_boom_oil_spill_raines.html

fire booms are big government high taxes activist judges

[Syd]

how soon do we see a spike in the gas prices that is blamed on this spill ?

It's only 25k barrels a day and the EU is sliding into a near-recession again, gas prices will be largely unaffected. The more pressing issue is that if you're involved in seafood along the gulf coast, you're pretty fucked. Most of the gulf coast area is already dealing with crippling unemployment so that's going to be fun.

[CaptainBlowhole]

I suspect they want there to be an environmental disaster so they can take a stand against them, despite the fact that this oil source gives us independence from the Mideast.

[Barnaby Jones]

So you're saying that he hasn't had since April 20th to come up with some sort of plan?

It's cute that you think that there can be a plan for this outside of the prolong process of capping the spill and cleaning it up!

[badmonkey]

It's cute that you think that there can be a plan for this outside of the prolong process of capping the spill and cleaning it up!

You mean like the plan they came up with in 1994 for dealing with this type of event? Thankfully they skipped that plan (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/fire_boom_oil_spill_raines.html) in favor of the "wipe it off the beaches when it gets here" plan. They've had since April 20th to do something to keep it away from land and failed miserably. Gulf Coast residents are currently using Facebook and probably other social networking sites to organize to clean the beaches because the government can't seem to get it's shit together enough to do anything but condemn BP (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/gibbs-we-will-keep-a-boot-on-t.html).

[Syd]

You mean like the plan they came up with in 1994 for dealing with this type of event? Thankfully they skipped that plan (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/fire_boom_oil_spill_raines.html) in favor of the "wipe it off the beaches when it gets here" plan. They've had since April 20th to do something to keep it away from land and failed miserably. Gulf Coast residents are currently using Facebook and probably other social networking sites to organize to clean the beaches because the government can't seem to get it's shit together enough to do anything but condemn BP (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/gibbs-we-will-keep-a-boot-on-t.html).

Yeah, fire booms would have definitely helped burn the oil that doesn't burn very well in seawater.

[Barnaby Jones]

You mean like the plan they came up with in 1994 for dealing with this type of event? Thankfully they skipped that plan (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/fire_boom_oil_spill_raines.html) in favor of the "wipe it off the beaches when it gets here" plan. They've had since April 20th to do something to keep it away from land and failed miserably. Gulf Coast residents are currently using Facebook and probably other social networking sites to organize to clean the beaches because the government can't seem to get it's shit together enough to do anything but condemn BP (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/gibbs-we-will-keep-a-boot-on-t.html).

You might want to read into that a bit more next time! Hee-hee!

[badmonkey]

Yeah, fire booms would have definitely helped burn the oil that doesn't burn very well in seawater.

Source?

You might want to read into that a bit more next time! Hee-hee!

You're not smart enough to be that condescending.

[Barnaby Jones]

You're getting all worked up over nobody having the one fire boom in all of America? If they work so great how come the oil companies don't have them ready to go?

[high fly]

Guys like Rush are desperately trying to paint this as "Obama's Katrina!" Talk about LOL!


Yeah, he doesn't want to talk about Halliburton being blamed by BP or anything.
I wonder how Halliburton stock has been doing since the disaster...

[Dan 'Hampton]

Halliburton is an easy target especially when they're deeply in bed with both parties. Anytime they're mentioned I take it with a grain of salt.

[Suspect Chin]

Obama hates Cajun people.

[torker]

Obama hates Cajun people.

Finally, he's taken a stance we can unite behind.
http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/32/3213/QBR1F00Z/barack-obama-yes-we-can.jpg

[ozzie]

No fishing in "Federal Waters", 30 miles offshore. Won't be long until it's closer to shore.

A few dead sea turtles on the beach yesterday. Not sure yet if it's oil related. Could be due to shrimpers desperate to cash in while they can and not using their TEDs (Turtle Exclusion Devices).

Local fishermen and shrimpers are losing their minds, already looking for aid and preparing suits against BP.

Local and National news crews seem disappointed that they're not getting pictures of creatures covered in oil like they did after the Exxon spill in Alaska.

Daily wind and wave reports here, and predictions when and where the oil will start coming onshore, like they're tracking a very slow moving hurricane.

[Dude!]

Department of Interior Chief
Tom Strickland
decided it was a good time
to go river rafting
during Obama's Katrina

You're doing a hell of a job, Strickie!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/while-oil-slick-spread-interior-department-chief-of-staff-rafted-with-wife-in-grand-canyon-.html

[Syd]

So, this is Obama's Katrina because some people told you that you should think it is Obama's Katrina?

Far out man, far out. I know conservatives tend to have a fetish for authority but Dude! takes it to an entirely new level of sycophancy. Keep on keepin' on, maybe they'll promote you to working on the porch or in the house.

[Dude!]

So, this is Obama's Katrina because some people told you that you should think it is Obama's Katrina?

Far out man, far out. I know conservatives tend to have a fetish for authority but Dude! takes it to an entirely new level of sycophancy. Keep on keepin' on, maybe they'll promote you to working on the porch or in the house.

that coming from someone
who takes his orders
from Beijing and Mecca

[Serpico1103]

Saying this is obama's Katrina, is admitting that Bush screwed up (not news), while leaving open for debate whether Obama has screwed up. Not exactly good debating tactic. You want to compare it to an acknowledged democratic screw up, not a republican one.

[brettmojo]

Department of Interior Chief
Tom Strickland
decided it was a good time
to go river rafting
during Obama's Katrina

You're doing a hell of a job, Strickie!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/while-oil-slick-spread-interior-department-chief-of-staff-rafted-with-wife-in-grand-canyon-.html
It's still offshore. Doesn't involve our interior yet.

[Penelope]

No fishing in "Federal Waters", 30 miles offshore. Won't be long until it's closer to shore.

A few dead sea turtles on the beach yesterday. Not sure yet if it's oil related. Could be due to shrimpers desperate to cash in while they can and not using their TEDs (Turtle Exclusion Devices).

Local fishermen and shrimpers are losing their minds, already looking for aid and preparing suits against BP.

Local and National news crews seem disappointed that they're not getting pictures of creatures covered in oil like they did after the Exxon spill in Alaska.

Daily wind and wave reports here, and predictions when and where the oil will start coming onshore, like they're tracking a very slow moving hurricane.

All of those sea turtles are endangered species :(

[Dude!]

All of those sea turtles are endangered species :(

i know, it is heartbreaking

this is a wildlife holocaust
and Obama could care less

[JPMNICK]

i know, it is heartbreaking

this is a wildlife holocaust
and Obama could care less

i am not a huge obama fan, but do you really think he can do anything about this? what would you have the president do? this is a private company in international waters.

[Dude!]

i am not a huge obama fan, but do you really think he can do anything about this? what would you have the president do? this is a private company in international waters.

and guess who is the
# 1 recipient of BP
campaign cash....

if you guessed Obama
you guessed right

[foodcourtdruide]

and guess who is the
# 1 recipient of BP
campaign cash....

if you guessed Obama
you guessed right

This is absurd. A lot of people are criticising the Obama administration for placing too much blame on BP for what's been happening. Are you REALLY insinuating that the Obama administration is not going to ask BP to clean up their oil spill or not place blame on them for a major environmental disaster because of campaign contributions?

I'd love to know which right-wing talking head gave you this bizarre talking-point. Limbaugh? Savage?

[SatCam]

and guess who is the
# 1 recipient of BP
campaign cash....

if you guessed Obama
you guessed right

Wouldnt that mean Obama would try to downplay the severity of the spill and use government resources to help BP cover it up instead of making BP look like a bunch of assholes?

[StanUpshaw]

Wouldnt that mean Obama would try to downplay the severity of the spill and use government resources to help BP cover it up instead of making BP look like a bunch of assholes?

Yeah, you'll really have to pick one or the other:

1. Obama allowed the spill to be worse than it had to be in order to shut down Gulf drilling

or

2. Obama isn't holding BP's feet to the fire because they're big contributors and one hand washes the other.

[Contra]

I blame the blacks

[Furtherman]

and guess who is the
# 1 recipient of BP employees
campaign cash....

if you guessed Obama
you guessed right

Fixed.

And BP employees gave more to Republicans than Democrats (it was around a 57/43 split).

So what does that tell you?

[Bob Impact]

Fixed.

And BP employees gave more to Republicans than Democrats (it was around a 57/43 split).

So what does that tell you?

That there's a reasonable split of conservatives/liberals in every corporation and that arguing campaign contributions have anything to do with Obama's handling of this is ridiculous?

I'm not a huge Obama fan but I really don't understand what it is people want him to do here, is he supposed to throw on a wetsuit and dive down there with a giant cork?

[Furtherman]

A giant cork.

[foodcourtdruide]

That there's a reasonable split of conservatives/liberals in every corporation and that arguing campaign contributions have anything to do with Obama's handling of this is ridiculous?




Did you mean ! instead of ?

[Bob Impact]

Did you mean ! instead of ?

I actually meant to use an interrobang.

[keithy_19]

Fixed.

And BP employees gave more to Republicans than Democrats (it was around a 57/43 split).

So what does that tell you?

Mary Landrieu was the lead congress in BP campaign money. The only people from the 2008 election season who received more was McCain and Obama. That makes perfect sense considering their election bids were a bigger deal.

I'm not trying to make a point with Landrieu, but it's interesting based on where they are drilling.

[hanso]

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[badmonkey]

It's still offshore. Doesn't involve our interior yet.

You must have missed the first two paragraphs of the article:
Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon with his wife last week participating in activities that included white-water rafting, ABC News has learned.

Other leaders of the Interior Department were focused on the Gulf, joined by other agencies and literally thousands of other employees. But Strickland’s participation in a trip that administration officials insisted was “work-focused” raised eyebrows among other Obama administration officials and even within even his own department, sources told ABC News.

[Syd]

The amount of oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico is far greater than official estimates suggest, according to an exclusive NPR analysis.

At NPR's request, experts analyzed video that BP released Wednesday. Their findings suggest the BP spill is already far larger than the 1989 Exxon Valdez accident in Alaska, which spilled at least 250,000 barrels of oil.

BP has said repeatedly that there is no reliable way to measure the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico by looking at the oil gushing out of the pipe. But scientists say there are actually many proven techniques for doing just that.

Steven Wereley, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at Purdue University, analyzed videotape of the seafloor gusher using a technique called particle image velocimetry.

A computer program simply tracks particles and calculates how fast they are moving. Wereley put the BP video of the gusher into his computer. He made a few simple calculations and came up with an astonishing value for the rate of the oil spill: 70,000 barrels a day — much higher than the official estimate of 5,000 barrels a day.

The method is accurate to a degree of plus or minus 20 percent.

Given that uncertainty, the amount of material spewing from the pipe could range from 56,000 barrels to 84,000 barrels a day. It is important to note that it's not all oil. The short video BP released starts out with a shot of methane, but at the end it seems to be mostly oil.

"There's potentially some fluctuation back and forth between methane and oil," Wereley said.

But assuming that the lion's share of the material coming out of the pipe is oil, Wereley's calculations show that the official estimates are too low.

"We're talking more than a factor-of-10 difference between what I calculate and the number that's being thrown around," he said.

At least two other calculations support him.

Timothy Crone, an associate research scientist at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, used another well-accepted method to calculate fluid flows. Crone arrived at a similar figure, but he said he'd like better video from BP before drawing a firm conclusion.

Eugene Chiang, a professor of astrophysics at the University of California, Berkeley, also got a similar answer, using just pencil and paper.

Without even having a sense of scale from the BP video, he correctly deduced that the diameter of the pipe was about 20 inches. And though his calculation is less precise than Wereley's, it is in the same ballpark.

"I would peg it at around 20,000 to 100,000 barrels per day," he said.

Chiang called the current estimate of 5,000 barrels a day "almost certainly incorrect."

Given this flow rate, it seems this is a spill of unprecedented proportions in U.S. waters.

"It would just take a few days, at most a week, for it to exceed the Exxon Valdez's record," Chiang said.

BP disputed these figures.

"We've said all along that there's no way to estimate the flow coming out of the pipe accurately," said Bill Salvin, a BP spokesman.

Instead, BP prefers to rely on measurements of oil on the sea surface made by the Coast Guard and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Those are also contentious. Salvin also says these analyses should not assume that the oil is spewing from the 21-inch pipe, called a riser, shown in the video.

"The drill pipe, from which the oil is rising, is actually a 9-inch pipe that rests within the riser," Slavin said.

But Wereley says that fact doesn't skew his calculation. And though scientists say they hope BP will eventually release more video and information so they can refine their estimates, what they have now is good enough.

"It's possible to get a pretty decent number by looking at the video," Wereley said.

This new, much larger number suggests that capturing — and cleaning up — this oil may be a much bigger challenge than anyone has let on.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126809525

with some conjecture here using maths that says the NPR number might be a bit high but 50k barrels per day is the consensus:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6464


In short, arguablly 5 million barrels of oil will be in the gulf. Sounds like the gulf will be a big deadzone after all is said and done, or at the least totally unsafe to eat anything from.

and to underscore how utterly fucked the marine life in the gulf is and any beaches hit by this oil spill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If6i86x0ATQ

[tanless1]

And yet we are still at $70 a barrel....fuel is still over $3 a gallon......keep stickn it to the people.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Chris Matthews wants to be judge, jury and executioner way to suck communist cock douchebag!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FntTB23mlso

[PapaBear]

Go out and get yourself some Chesapeake blue crab now. You may never be able to get it again. I heard that experts now believe it may make it up to the coast of Virginia.

[Syd]

It'll be amusing if it actually makes it up and kills off what is left of the Chesapeake Bay. Not in the "haha, a bunch of people all along the water from Texas to Connecticut are unemployed now" but in a "haha, we just finally started to turn the tide and began fixing the Chesapeake" sort of way.

[hanso]

Brit Hume doesn’t believe the Gulf oil spill is that big a deal, and asks “where is it? You can’t see it."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/brit-hume-where-is-the-oi_n_578803.html


Uhm Mr. Hume it can be seen from space. FNC made up shit # 1.3 millionth and still counting.

[Syd]

The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee addressed the spill at a hearing Wednesday where leading Republicans including John Mica of Florida sought to pin blame on President Barack Obama's administration. He cited Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's acknowledgment Tuesday that his agency could have more aggressively monitored the offshore drilling industry.

Outlining what he called the "Obama oil spill timeline," Mica said the administration failed to heed warnings about the need for more regulation and issued "basically a carte blanche recipe for disaster" in approving drilling by the Deepwater Horizon, leased by oil giant BP PLC, and several dozen other wells.

He also said the spill could have been contained more quickly if the Coast Guard and other agencies had a better plan.

"This went on and on," he said. "I'm not going to point fingers at BP, the private industry, when it's government's responsibility to set the standards."

Government interference/regulation is bad, but Obama should have regulated/interfered with this.

It must take an incredible amount of work to be a Republican and not want to kill yourself sometimes.

[Syd]

daily "gulf coast is totally fucked" update (http://www.wdsu.com/health/23615203/detail.html)

More and more stories about sick fishermen are beginning to surface after the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The fishermen are working out in the Gulf -- many of them all day, every day -- to clean up the spill. They said they blame their ailments on the chemicals that BP is using.

"The volatile, organic carbons, they act like a narcotic on the brain," Ott said. "At high concentrations, what we learned in Exxon Valdez from carcasses of harbor seals and sea otters, it actually fried the brain, (and there were) brain lesions."

One fisherman said he felt like he was going to die over the weekend.

"I've been coughing up stuff," Gary Burris said. "Your lungs fill up."

Burris, a longtime fisherman who has worked across the Gulf Coast, said he woke up Sunday night feeling drugged and disoriented.

"It was like sniffing gasoline or something, and my ears are still popping," Burris said. "I'm coughing up stuff. I feel real weak, tingling feelings."

Burris said that when he went to a doctor after feeling ill on Sunday, the doctor told him his lungs looked like those of a three-pack-a-day smoker, and Burris said he has never smoked.

So now there are potential brain lesions and lung damage for whatever people were "lucky" enough to have work when the fishing areas were shut down.

[Barnaby Jones]

That's messed up!

[Penelope]

daily "gulf coast is totally fucked" update (http://www.wdsu.com/health/23615203/detail.html)



So now there are potential brain lesions and lung damage for whatever people were "lucky" enough to have work when the fishing areas were shut down.

I am beyond furious! I feel like smashing my fist into a wall. I need to go out for a jog and burn off some of my anger.

[brettmojo]

I am beyond furious! I feel like smashing my fist into a wall. I need to go out for a jog and burn off some of my anger.
Goooossssfrraaaaabbbbaaaaaa...

[Syd]

daily "gulf is totally fucked" update (http://www.kentucky.com/2010/05/21/1274872/scientists-see-video-adjust-gulf.html)

Tim Crone of Columbia University says he was saddened because he hoped the video would show his estimate of 840,000 to 4.2 million gallons a day was wrong, but it didn't.

He upped the lower bounds of his estimates to 1.68 million gallons and is sticking with his upper estimate for the main leak from the well that blew out after a rig explosion.


Purdue University professor Steve Wereley says he'll likely cut his 3.9 million gallons a day estimate after BP said half of what's coming out of the pipe is gas, not oil.

BP PLC and the Coast Guard have estimated 210,000 gallons a day, but a government team is revising that.

Since this article mentions gas, that ain't much better leaking out into the sea as oil.

Also, from a reporter in the area:

Finally tracked down a media number for grand isle police. Guess whose fucking voicemail answers. BP. about 1 hour ago via txt

#bp #oilspill Can't talk to anyone but bp. Only ones @ community center. Say they're in charge "bc it's bp's oil."
5 minutes ago via txt

Bp spokes. told my friend all hushed they have "a lot" of sway over the sheriff's dept
about 1 hour ago via txt

Bp spokes. is married to a sheriff's deputy. Course.
about 2 hours ago via txt

Bp spokes. asked my friend if he's a reporter, then said "Good." (He's not.) Not asking me bc I'm a gal, I guess.
about 2 hours ago via txt

Wtf. They're saying have to go through bp "liaison" to talk to anyone in this town.
about 2 hours ago via txt

See? Cop SUV telling tourists beach is open but careful of water. http://twitpic.com/1pr152
about 2 hours ago via Twitpic

Bp spokes. just told 2 reporters not allowed anywhere on beach. Lie. Tons of tourists on it, specifically told they could stay by police.
about 2 hours ago via txt

Going to "bp information center" they just set up to ask why cops being such assholes
about 2 hours ago via txt

Dolphins! And there are huge pools of oil here. http://twitpic.com/1pqf5d
about 3 hours ago via Twitpic

Ha! Miami herald was just chased down by same jefferson parish cops.
about 4 hours ago via txt

Cop at entrance to this beach just flipped his shit on me the moment I arrived. Yelling that I have to get out of here.
about 4 hours ago via txt

Yesterday families vacayed among oil blobs (see all those brown spots?) on Grand Isle. Let's go see what's happeni http://twitpic.com/1po1sz

http://twitter.com/macmcclelland


It was kind of amusing at first but BP has pretty much bought all the local cops there to keep things as under wraps as possible.

[booster11373]

I had some shrimp and a Grouper sandwich today and I thought that this might be the last I have this stuff for a long time

It is truly depressing

We have killed the Gulf

[hanso]

A large market store in my area has switched from farm to wild fish. I'm not sure why or the timing of this switch.

[PapaBear]

A large market store in my area has switched from farm to wild fish. I'm not sure why or the timing of this switch.
That's odd. Very odd.

[hanso]

I thought so also. Maybe as a support thing. But there are bans already on fishing.

[StanUpshaw]

Well what kind of fish are we talking about?

Cod, Salmon, Tilapia, Catfish? Shit like that should be unaffected.

[sailor]

It was kind of amusing at first but BP has pretty much bought all the local cops there to keep things as under wraps as possible.

They've done a wonderful job of it; I hadn't heard of this spill before.

[brettmojo]

Well what kind of fish are we talking about?

Cod, Salmon, Tilapia, Catfish? Shit like that should be unaffected.
What are some of them other fish?

[Jujubees2]

Well what kind of fish are we talking about?

Cod, Salmon, Tilapia, Catfish? Shit like that should be unaffected.

Damn Straight. No oil spill will affect this guy....

http://static.open.salon.com/files/catfish1249065503.jpg

[torker]

Damn Straight. No oil spill will affect this guy....

http://static.open.salon.com/files/catfish1249065503.jpg

Hey, Catfish, that's illegal. (http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/14059/)

[underdog]

BP will attempt to plug with mud (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-22/bp-may-attempt-to-plug-oil-leak-with-mud-next-week-update1-.html)

No one has any fucking clue what they're doing.

[hanso]

Well what kind of fish are we talking about?

Cod, Salmon, Tilapia, Catfish? Shit like that should be unaffected.

No type was in the story.

[Syd]

BP will attempt to plug with mud (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-22/bp-may-attempt-to-plug-oil-leak-with-mud-next-week-update1-.html)

No one has any fucking clue what they're doing.

They're throwing temporary fixes at it. Anything permanent would shut down the particularly area or scare the shit out of the public (explosives) and have popular favor stand against BP drilling the area again, especially in an election year

So basically it's cheaper to kill off a huge area of the Gulf of Mexico than it is to shut down the well.

[Dude!]

the talking heads
were all over obama
on the sunday morning shows
as they should be

this is Greasy Katrina

[Dan 'Hampton]

Why are we surprised the government couldnt handle this?

[hanso]

Bush/Cheney had no ties to oil or Haliburton. And they did set up tuff regulation for this type of thing. Just read it in their energy plan.
So it must be all on Obama.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Haliburton didn't start or end with Bush/Cheney.

[underdog]

They're throwing temporary fixes at it. Anything permanent would shut down the particularly area or scare the shit out of the public (explosives) and have popular favor stand against BP drilling the area again, especially in an election year

So basically it's cheaper to kill off a huge area of the Gulf of Mexico than it is to shut down the well.

Lucky for them, apparently no one gives a fuck about the Gulf.

Why are we surprised the government couldnt handle this?

We're not. Or at least, we shouldn't be.

Haliburton didn't start or end with Bush/Cheney.

Seriously. Haliburton has ties with the ultra-rich, doesn't matter the party.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Join the party of detachment. I enjoy it. I feel real bad for the gulf residents but don't give a shit about what politician is trying to pass the buck.

[Penelope]

I wonder if this is going to completely wipe out the endangered sea turtle population on the east coast. From endangered to extinct . . . and all those poor sweet east coast harbor seals. When I lived in California I used to go to the beach to watch the harbor seals on the weekends, the most innocent and harmless creatures in the world. :down:

[brettmojo]

I wonder if this is going to completely wipe out the endangered sea turtle population on the east coast. From endangered to extinct . . . and all those poor sweet east coast harbor seals. When I lived in California I used to go to the beach to watch the harbor seals on the weekends, the most innocent and harmless creatures in the world. :down:
You mean Justin Bieber.

[sailor]

I wonder if this is going to completely wipe out the endangered sea turtle population on the east coast. From endangered to extinct . . . and all those poor sweet east coast harbor seals. When I lived in California I used to go to the beach to watch the harbor seals on the weekends, the most innocent and harmless creatures in the world. :down:


Tell that to the poor herrings and anchovies! Fuck the harbor seals!

[Penelope]

You mean Justin Bieber.
That is a good analogy. Justin Bieber does resemble a harbor seal. Think of Justin Bieber washed up on the beach dead. No more songs about holding hands and kisses on the cheek. No more jailbait style dancing . This truly illustrates the tragedy, a lifeless oily Bieber on the beach surrounded by dead turtles and harbor seals.

Tell that to the poor herrings and anchovies! Fuck the harbor seals!

That is a real tragedy too. That is the food source for the marine mammals. The seals are going to be eating polluted food.


What is driving me crazy about this situation is that no one seems to know how to stop it, and it's getting worse every day. :sad:

[torker]

this is Greasy Katrina

oddly hott

[StanUpshaw]

What is driving me crazy about this situation is that no one seems to know how to stop it, and it's getting worse every day. :sad:

Tell me about it.

You know what else drives me crazy?

You know how it rains and it makes everything all wet? The wetness is what drives me crazy in that situation.

And another thing. When I broke my leg...the thing that drove me crazy about that situation was the pain and reduced functionality.

[hanso]

You slipped on oil?

[Sinestro]

No more Gulf for more Oil!

[Syd]

daily gulf is totally fucked update (http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com/2010/05/major-change-down-below.html)

As the relief wells are closing in the sea bed seems to have liquefied or something similar.

[Penelope]

Tell me about it.

You know what else drives me crazy?

You know how it rains and it makes everything all wet? The wetness is what drives me crazy in that situation.

And another thing. When I broke my leg...the thing that drove me crazy about that situation was the pain and reduced functionality.

:smile: Your sarcasm is cute, but stay on topic please. The topic is the gulf oil spill and Justin Bieber.

[hanso]

East coast seals? The only thing like that I've seen are manatees.

[torker]

the right wing pundits have no idea what to do with this
nothing seems to stick
the conspiracy theories are bubbling

up from the ground came a bubbling crude

[Sinestro]

Can't they get a submarine and torpedo the source to close the gap?

[StanUpshaw]

Can't they get a submarine and torpedo the source to close the gap?

We have enough problems already. Let's not risk waking up Godzilla.

[Penelope]

East coast seals? The only thing like that I've seen are manatees.

Yes sir, there are east coast seals, as well as dolphins, sharks, and manatees. I know this because I'm a nerd I read books about marine mammals for fun. I became obsessed with marine mammals after I saw a sea lion for the first time in California. Luckily there are no east coast sea lions, so this tragedy won't hurt them.

[torker]

I guess that whole send Harry Stamper to space business
is gonna end up biting us on the ass after all.
http://www.agonybooth.com/images/articles/Armageddon_1998/cast_bear.jpg

[StanUpshaw]

Seals were the cause of some shark panics around Cape Cod not too long ago. Great whites were being drawn in close to shore to munch their tender vittles.

[Barnaby Jones]

I guess that whole send Harry Stamper to space business
is gonna end up biting us on the ass after all.
http://www.agonybooth.com/images/articles/Armageddon_1998/cast_bear.jpg

The answer is so obvious now! We need to reverse that shit streak of a movie and train a team of astronauts to handle an oil spill!

[Penelope]

East coast seals? The only thing like that I've seen are manatees.

I forgot to tell you, along with the harbor seals that live along the east coast, there is a group of islands beside Georgia where elephant seals actually live. I plan on visiting these islands over the summer.

[torker]

Oil braised elephant seal sounds yummy.
http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2007/01/meat-in-frying-pan.jpg

[Penelope]

Oil braised elephant seal sounds yummy.
http://blog.khymos.org/wp-content/2007/01/meat-in-frying-pan.jpg

Too bad, cause that is a federal offense. The Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972. Face.

[torker]

I forgot to tell you, along with the harbor seals that live along the east coast, there is a group of islands beside Georgia where elephant seals actually live. I plan on visiting these islands over the summer.
After a long cold winter. Bastard.
http://animalrescue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/seal_photo.jpg

[hanso]

As a kid I had tried green sea turtle. There was (maybe is) a restaurant named such in the Florida keys. But it must have been later than 1972.

[A.J.]

As a kid I had tried green sea turtle. There was (maybe is) a restaurant named such in the Florida keys. But it must have been later than 1972.

There are a bunch around here. (http://www.greeneturtle.com/)

http://www.d3stores.com/greeneturtle/img/categoryImages/forest%20green.jpg

[Syd]

daily gulf, possibly east coast is totally fucked update (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-8199-Breakthrough-Energy-Examiner~y2010m5d13-A-volcano-of-oil-erupting)

New video showing largest hole from pipe 21-inches in diameter spewing oil and natural gas at ~4 barrels per second, along with analysis of the amount of oil on the surface, supports the estimates closer to several million gallons per day erupting from this hole BP popped in the ocean floor that contains a vast amount of oil and natural gas.

More estimates coming in from the seabed explosion. Long story short, if these estimates are even remotely accurate most of the Gulf of Mexico is easily dead and now a good portion of the Atlantic Coast will suffer from the oil escaping the gulf.

[Jujubees2]

http://obamaisabitch.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/sarah-palin-drill-baby-drill.jpg

[Dude!]

http://obamaisabitch.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/sarah-palin-drill-baby-drill.jpg

if we were drilling in ANWAR
Obama's Katrina would not
have happened

[Penelope]

As a kid I had tried green sea turtle. There was (maybe is) a restaurant named such in the Florida keys. But it must have been later than 1972.

Turtles aren't mammals, so they aren't covered by the Marine Mammal Protection Act.

[Jujubees2]

if we were drilling in ANWAR
Obama's Katrina would not
have happened

Yeah, we already had the Valdez...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, we already had the Valdez...

For 20 years the media has been mispronouncing it. Don't they know spanish? Its Val-Dezzz not Val-Deez.

[brettmojo]

Yeah, we already had the Valdez...
This was the Exxon Valdez times 2356.

[StanUpshaw]

This was the Exxon Valdez times 2356.

How do you figure?

[torker]

How do you figure?

Exxon Valdez x 2356 = This :wink:

[sailor]

For 20 years the media has been mispronouncing it. Don't they know spanish? Its Val-Dezzz not Val-Deez.


Except it's probably named after the Alaskan city. Next think you'll tell alabamans they're not pronouncing Birmingham like the Brits.

[StanUpshaw]

Informal poll:

Who had never heard of the Ixtoc oil spill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I) before this latest spill?

Who had never heard of it before right now?

[torker]

Informal poll:

Who had never heard of the Ixtoc oil spill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I) before this latest spill?

Who had never heard of it before right now?

That's Mexico. We're talking about the U.S. of A., amigo. Love it leave it, bucko.

[Barnaby Jones]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/168903/BP-SPONSOR.jpg

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae315/ouestn/Untitled-2.png

[Dude!]

obama is planning another vacation...
his second since this disaster started

he is Ne(g)ro fiddling while Rome burns

[Furtherman]

Did they try the Top Hat yet?

What about the Hot Tap?

[Barnaby Jones]

obama is planning another vacation...
his second since this disaster started

he is Ne(g)ro fiddling while Rome burns

I know I shouldn't make fun of the handicapped, but boy, you are dumb!

[torker]

I know I shouldn't make fun of the handicapped, but boy, you are dumb!
Who loves ya, baby?
http://broadcatching.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/kojak.jpg

[Barnaby Jones]

He wishes he had my majestic mane of hair!

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/393/041/16/44_1_b.JPG

[torker]

http://www.nndb.com/people/016/000022947/mike-connors-4-sized.jpg
Take your gray ballsack and keep walking, pops.

[Barnaby Jones]

Mannix doesn't even like Mannix!

[DJEvelEd]

David Gergen's combover is up there.http://www.news-media-watch.com/images/david-gergen-cnn.jpg

Time to shave and grow a soul patch
http://colbertnation.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/colbert_report/video_archive/season_2/cr_02104_06_gst_v6.jpg

I've seen worse, but not by much.
http://thedailyzing.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/combover.jpg

Obama's hair is getting greyer by the barrel.

[hanso]

GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill

Republicans for the second time blocked legislation that would increase oil companies' liability for oil spill damages, setting off criticism from Democrats seeking to make BP pay for the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005333-503544.html

[Jujubees2]

Bombshell memo: BP ignored several warnings hours before oil rig exploded in Gulf of Mexico (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/05/26/2010-05-26_bombshell_memo_bp_ignored_warnings_hours_before _oil_rig_exploded_in_gulf_of_mexi.html)

[A.J.]

When in doubt, add another layer of bureaucracy: Wishing upon a czar: Experts want oil-spill chief (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100527/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_czar)

I guess the Secretaries of Interior and Energy aren't good enough.

[booster11373]

When in doubt, add another layer of bureaucracy: Wishing upon a czar: Experts want oil-spill chief (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100527/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_czar)

I guess the Secretaries of Interior and Energy aren't good enough.

Thats the nature of Government no matter who is in charge.

Gov. by nature is reactionary

[sailor]

Look at Obama taking charge now that the leak has been plugged.

[hanso]

It's plugged? I get all my breaking news from rfn.

[sailor]

It's plugged? I get all my breaking news from rfn.


Supposedly the "top kill" appears to be working.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

Nat Geo just had a really intense special on about the first 36 hours of the Gulf Oil Spill http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/gulf-oil-spill-5488/Overview

[Bob Impact]

This is all pretty awful but it did lead to the Jim Norton "animals are stealing our oil" bit which gave me the first legitimate belly laugh I've gotten from O&A in years.

[hanso]

It's odd I flipped channels on tv and still don't see anything saying so. I do see the "live video" of the oil pipe. To me it looks like 5 small leaks now. When it was 1 large leak before.

[CaptainBlowhole]

If they can connect a tube from the surface to dump in all this mud and stuff, why not just let the oil come out of that tube and into a tanker?

[StanUpshaw]

If they can connect a tube from the surface to dump in all this mud and stuff, why not just let the oil come out of that tube and into a tanker?

That's what they've been doing for two weeks.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Everytime I see Bobby Jindal from Louisiana plea to the federal government it makes me laugh. Big government is bad.. Til it's your state getting shit on.

Pull yourself up by your boot straps.. Remember?

[Dude!]

Everytime I see Bobby Jindal from Louisiana plea to the federal government it makes me laugh. Big government is bad.. Til it's your state getting shit on.

Pull yourself up by your boot straps.. Remember?

um, the source of the problem
is not under his control
it is in US waters, not Louisana waters

it is a federal issue,
but affects his state
of course he should ask for help

[CaptainBlowhole]

If they have been doing it for the past two weeks, why is oil still leaking out? The last I heard is that they have not had any success with the top kill method and they are going to start dumping golf balls and stuff down. I know they have an inflatable bladder that's like a thin tube that they can snake into pipes, and then inflate it so that the bladder presses up against the inside of the pipe when inflated. I know its used for sewer and plumbing applications. I wonder if it would work a mile under water though, or against the upward pressure of the oil. I just wonder if they try anything obvious at all.

[A.J.]

PLUG IT UP!!!

http://ktismatics.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/carrie-blot.png?w=651&h=406

[torker]

Did you plug the hole yet, Daddy?http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Obama+Signs+Edward+Kennedy+Serve+America+Act+5JqdD mt1qhGl.jpg
No, Bill, no!

[high fly]

The part I like about this one is Limbaugh came out saying it was no big deal and ever since has been hedging, but still insisting it's not that big a deal....

[hanso]

The part I like about this one is Limbaugh came out saying it was no big deal and ever since has been hedging, but still insisting it's not that big a deal....

That's the hole that needs plugging (his mouth).

[StanUpshaw]

Did you plug the hole yet, Daddy?http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Obama+Signs+Edward+Kennedy+Serve+America+Act+5JqdD mt1qhGl.jpg
No, Bill, no!

'Chelle missed a spot shaving.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

'Chelle missed a spot shaving.

Shes no Jackie Kennedy

[torker]

This leakage is going to be Obama's Nicolini.
http://marketingbean.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/alli-logo.jpg

[Dude!]

Shes no Jackie Kennedy

hell, she's not even
Lady Bird Johnson

[CaptainBlowhole]

In all the aerial images I see of the spill and slicks, I need to zoom out really high before I begin recognizing the land shapes for where they are. in relation to the gulf of Mexico, these slicks are microscopic. Try zooming out from the same area on google maps to see what I mean. You'd think from the news reports that this oil would fill up lake ontario, it wouldn't even fill a stadium! I'm not trying ti minimize it nor saying its nothing, but it seems a lot worse than it is.
I then went to Price William Sound on google maps, and that area is nothing compared to this area.
Again, I am not trying to say this is insignificant. Remember that oil floats on top of water. These slicks are inches thick and spread out.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Nat Geo just had a really intense special on about the first 36 hours of the Gulf Oil Spill http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/gulf-oil-spill-5488/Overview

That was really sad and depressing. Amazing shots of the rig on fire and then sinking into the sea.

[brettmojo]

In all the aerial images I see of the spill and slicks, I need to zoom out really high before I begin recognizing the land shapes for where they are. in relation to the gulf of Mexico, these slicks are microscopic. Try zooming out from the same area on google maps to see what I mean. You'd think from the news reports that this oil would fill up lake ontario, it wouldn't even fill a stadium! I'm not trying ti minimize it nor saying its nothing, but it seems a lot worse than it is.
I then went to Price William Sound on google maps, and that area is nothing compared to this area.
Again, I am not trying to say this is insignificant. Remember that oil floats on top of water. These slicks are inches thick and spread out.
Not all of it is floating on top which makes it hard to see from satellite imagery.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

The Post had a little article today with Capt. Joseph Hazelwood, who piloted the doomed Exxon Valdez. He brought up the fact that the 11 people who died on the rig have been kinda pushed to the side in all this. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/valdez_captain_spills_on_far_worse_Pax0hwPLjt2tWXd FcjPLGJ

[epo]

I'm sure my joining the " Plugging the Gulf oil leak with the works of Ayn Rand" Facebook page will help this problem.

[Barnaby Jones]

The Post had a little article today with Capt. Joseph Hazelwood, who piloted the doomed Exxon Valdez. He brought up the fact that the 11 people who died on the rig have been kinda pushed to the side in all this. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/valdez_captain_spills_on_far_worse_Pax0hwPLjt2tWXd FcjPLGJ

What is his point? Why should the focus be on them?

[Dude!]

the saw they were
cutting with
is now stuck

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

i wonder if they'll wake obama
to tell him

[StanUpshaw]

What is his point? Why should the focus be on them?

With so many 'holier than thou' assholes preaching about the spill, he didn't want to be left out.

[Jujubees2]

What is his point? Why should the focus be on them?

With so many 'holier than thou' assholes preaching about the spill, he didn't want to be left out.

I think Hazelwood is just pissed that he no longer is responsible for the biggest oil spill in the country.

[brettmojo]

the saw they were
cutting with
is now stuck

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

i wonder if they'll wake obama
to tell him
He's busy reading The Cat In The Hat to six year olds.

[Dude!]

He's busy reading The Cat In The Hat to six year olds.

exactly

not a dime's worth of difference
between obama and bush
when it comes to job performance

[Furtherman]

exactly

not a dime's worth of difference
between obama and bush
when it comes to job performance

We'll see after 8 years.

This oil leak is a problem that no one can do anything about in any given amount of time that there wouldn't be a monumental disaster anyway, and it's nearly impossible to get near the problem. To blame that on the President is illogical.

New Orleans was a problem that had regular Americans able to get bottled water to a city a week before the government could. I wouldn't blame that on Bush either, whereas I'm sure he ordered help, it was just slow getting there. He wasn't driving the convoys... there isn't much more he could have done in regards to putting action into motion.

It's the same thing with Obama, although it is a much more difficult problem to fix.

With the finger pointing going on, it will most likely still be a mess long after the well runs dry, and only for political reasons, and not the real reason... this is a tragic accident that we can't fix.

[StanUpshaw]

Niger Delta spill is Goodluck Jonathan's Katrina. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell)

[Dude!]

Niger Delta spill is Goodluck Jonathan's Katrina. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell)


that link is so racist
you should be ashamed

[torker]

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34s/16552589.jpgHe put a nice spin on this being further proof that we need to ease up on the amount of oil we use in the 30 second sound bite I saw.

[Kevin]

that link is so racist
you should be ashamed

It said Nigeria.... Nigeria

[Barnaby Jones]

exactly

not a dime's worth of difference
between obama and bush
when it comes to job performance

What are you expecting Obama to do?

Man, people are dumb and so easily incited!

[CurseoftheBambi]

its not being easily incited...its not liking obama and making him the blame for something that's not his fault. which is why i began this thread mocking people who want obama's help now...cause the government now is bad because of Obama and we should not have the government (fed) government interfere ...socializm socializm...now they want "daddy" to help now.

[Dude!]

its not being easily incited...its not liking obama and making him the blame for something that's not his fault. which is why i began this thread mocking people who want obama's help now...cause the government now is bad because of Obama and we should not have the government (fed) government interfere ...socializm socializm...now they want "daddy" to help now.

you're a fool

the basic duty of a govt
is to protect its people and territory
and to wield resources
that individuals and states can't muster

katrina was not Bush's fault,
now was it?
and yet he was blamed
for the government response
to the AFTERMATH
as is Obama for the oil disaster

no one expects him to plug the hole
but there should have been and should be
a national mobilization to protect the wetlands

Bush III has been an utter failure...
totally out to lunch on this

[Barnaby Jones]

you're a fool

the basic duty of a govt
is to protect its people and territory
and to wield resources
that individuals and states can't muster

katrina was not Bush's fault,
now was it?
and yet he was blamed
for the government response
to the AFTERMATH
as is Obama for the oil disaster

no one expects him to plug the hole
but there should have been and should be
a national mobilization to protect the wetlands

Bush III has been an utter failure...
totally out to lunch on this

This attempt at an analogy between the spill and Katrina just gets more and more dumb as you keep insisting on trotting it out!

The United States doesn't have anything in place to organize a "national mobilization to protect the wetlands" from an oil spill! Maintaining such a system on any level would be a waste of money and resources on a much larger scale than what we're seeing with the spill. It's stupid to think that the United States should be devoting time, money and resources year round in the off chance an oil spill of this magnitude occurs on its shores!

Katrina's aftermath, on the other hand, was much more realistically avoidable! Every level of government failed when they could have easily been pro-active ahead of the storm. It would have been a relatively simple undertaking to use pre-existing resources to make sure the levees and protection systems were in better shape to stand up to a storm like Katrina, especially since hurricanes are something that occur involving the U.S. every year! It would have also been relatively simple, especially when compared to something as wasteful as maintaining a "national mobilization" for major oil spills every year, to have pre-existing manpower and resources staged to help people after the storm hit and even to get people out ahead of time.

[Dude!]

It would have also been relatively simple, especially when compared to something as wasteful as maintaining a "national mobilization" for major oil spills every year, to have pre-existing manpower and resources staged to help people after the storm hit and even to get people out ahead of time.

wow...your posts get more
stupid and silly each day

you do not 'maintain a national mobilization'
you mobilize as events dictate

Bush III should have mobilized all resources
40+ days ago...he did not

he should mobilize all resources now
he is not

he's too busy bad-dancing to lame
paul mccartney music, i guess

[angrymissy]

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/bpmario.jpg

[Furtherman]

you do not 'maintain a national mobilization'
you mobilize as events dictate


I guess that one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer for the National Guard is all fun in the sun. Booze and babes drills!

[hanso]

I bet if feds were doing clean up. And not letting it rest on BP's dime. Those on the right would be bitching in these posts on it wasting tax payers money.


Coast Guard were there in two hours. How long did it take with Bush? (The Mexican Navy were the first responders).

[foodcourtdruide]

wow...your posts get more
stupid and silly each day

you do not 'maintain a national mobilization'
you mobilize as events dictate

Bush III should have mobilized all resources
40+ days ago...he did not

he should mobilize all resources now
he is not

he's too busy bad-dancing to lame
paul mccartney music, i guess

What on Earth does "mobilize all resources" mean? You're acting like there's some magical button Obama can push to fix this problem, but he is not for some bizarre nefarious reason.

[Dude!]

You're acting like there's some magical button Obama can push to fix this problem, but he is not for some bizarre nefarious reason.

the bizarre reason is
incompetence or laziness

chris matthews ended tonight's show
by asking why obama hasn't
created a new ccc of college kids
who have just gotten out of school
and have no jobs
to go down and clean up wetlands

that would be a mobilization

[foodcourtdruide]

the bizarre reason is
incompetence or laziness

chris matthews ended tonight's show
by asking why obama hasn't
created a new ccc of college kids
who have just gotten out of school
and have no jobs
to go down and clean up wetlands

that would be a mobilization

So, you really think that President Obama and his entire administration are ignoring this oil spill because they are lazy? I can't even comprehend this. Please just think about your statement and how insane it sounds.

[Barnaby Jones]

the bizarre reason is
incompetence or laziness

chris matthews ended tonight's show
by asking why obama hasn't
created a new ccc of college kids
who have just gotten out of school
and have no jobs
to go down and clean up wetlands

that would be a mobilization

It really is impressive the lengths you'll go to to further this inane point! You really have no idea how long it would take and how complicated it would be to organize what you just described, do you? It's not realistic at all! Are these people being paid? Where do you house them? How long do they do this work? Will some law be passed that forces everyone viable to participate? It would essentially be impossible to do what you just described in any sort of reasonable time frame to deal with the spill, if it could be done at all! Look at hysterical resistance he got when he brought up the idea of expanding charitable work programs using high school and college age kids! You really think the people making the ridiculous analogies to the Hitler Youth and and junk like that are suddenly going to be hunky dorky with the president essentially illegally drafting their children to indefinitely go clean up a toxic substance with absolutely nothing in place to house, feed or pay them? You really think this is a smart or viable idea?

[torker]

the bizarre reason is
incompetence or laziness

chris matthews ended tonight's show
by asking why obama hasn't
created a new ccc of college kids
who have just gotten out of school
and have no jobs
to go down and clean up wetlands

that would be a mobilization

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TYtL3iq-5_8/SXHnOUOKeDI/AAAAAAAADTs/uXuna4uxQZw/s320/stork.JPG

[foodcourtdruide]

It really is impressive the lengths you'll go to to further this inane point! You really have no idea how long it would take and how complicated it would be to organize what you just described, do you? It's not realistic at all! Are these people being paid? Where do you house them? How long do they do this work? Will some law be passed that forces everyone viable to participate? It would essentially be impossible to do what you just described in any sort of reasonable time frame to deal with the spill, if it could be done at all! Look at hysterical resistance he got when he brought up the idea of expanding charitable work programs using high school and college age kids! You really think the people making the ridiculous analogies to the Hitler Youth and and junk like that are suddenly going to be hunky dorky with the president essentially illegally drafting their children to indefinitely go clean up a toxic substance with absolutely nothing in place to house, feed or pay them? You really think this is a smart or viable idea?

The lazy comment did it for me. To insinuate that there are viable options, but Obama and his administration are too lazy to get things done is pretty insane to me. I like the Chris Matthews idea, but I'd doubt they could get something like that done over night, given the odd amount of opposition Obama got from attempting to expand charitable programs as you mentioned above. Anything Obama proposes will be met with opposition. It seems to me that there simply is no solution to stop the oil spill, and that somehow is Obama's fault. Why not blame BP for ignoring the warning signs of disaster? Or politicians (and yes, Obama is included) for not listening to environmentalists warnings about off-shore drilling? How fucking STUPID does "drill baby, drill" sound right now?

[Barnaby Jones]

The lazy comment did it for me. To insinuate that there are viable options, but Obama and his administration are too lazy to get things done is pretty insane to me. I like the Chris Matthews idea, but I'd doubt they could get something like that done over night, given the odd amount of opposition Obama got from attempting to expand charitable programs as you mentioned above. Anything Obama proposes will be met with opposition. It seems to me that there simply is no solution to stop the oil spill, and that somehow is Obama's fault. Why not blame BP for ignoring the warning signs of disaster? Or politicians (and yes, Obama is included) for not listening to environmentalists warnings about off-shore drilling? How fucking STUPID does "drill baby, drill" sound right now?

Agreed! I in no way want to let Obama off the hook here because endorsing more drilling was stupid to begin with and was in direct contrast to much of his environmental rhetoric! He's been a big disappointment when it's come to "green" initiatives!

[Perrynoid On Demand]

i think this whole thing is kind of funny. fuck all u water hugging hippys. :drunk:

[hanso]

Now with 20% more free!

[Jujubees2]

Which species will be the first to become extinct due to the leak?

Ireland bookmaker Paddy Power takes wages on which species to go first because of BP oil spill (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/03/2010-06-03_bookies_get_in_on_the_action_as_they_bet_on_dis aster_scenarios.html)

[Dude!]

Which species will be the first to become extinct due to the leak?

fortunately, it will be
President Nero

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[Barnaby Jones]

You've yet to give us a realistic suggestion as to what the federal government should be doing or could be doing instead of BP! Don't you need to figure that out before you can keep propping up this "the president isn't doing as much as he can nonsense?" I'll bet you've had plenty of pissy comments about people you thought looked to him as some kind of messiah-like figure, yet here you are repeatedly demanding that he do something well beyond his means or the government's means at this time!

It's silly how people keep pointing to Obama's activities while this is going on, like he's only supposed to be on the Gulf coast looking sad and concerned and doing nothing else.

[Dude!]

i suppose i should cut
the dope some more slack
on this

after all, he is
"focused like a laser beam'
on creating jobs

and that is working out
so well

[Barnaby Jones]

You keep avoiding bringing up anything that justifies your repeated insistence that he should be "doing more!" It was shown how ridiculous Matthews' idea was, and that's pretty much been the only thing you've suggested that the federal government could do!

[Dude!]

dude, if you can't think of
10 things off the top of your head,
i can't help you

you are as uncreative
as Prez Nero
but perhaps not as lackadaisical

[Furtherman]

You've yet to give us a realistic suggestion as to what the federal government should be doing or could be doing instead of BP!

And he won't. Try not to get frustrated, your point is valid.

[sailor]

You've yet to give us a realistic suggestion as to what the federal government should be doing or could be doing instead of BP! Don't you need to figure that out before you can keep propping up this "the president isn't doing as much as he can nonsense?" I'll bet you've had plenty of pissy comments about people you thought looked to him as some kind of messiah-like figure, yet here you are repeatedly demanding that he do something well beyond his means or the government's means at this time!

It's silly how people keep pointing to Obama's activities while this is going on, like he's only supposed to be on the Gulf coast looking sad and concerned and doing nothing else.

Renowned physicist michiu kaku also chimed in on the side the president should have kicked BP out and taken charge of the situation.

[Barnaby Jones]

Renowned physicist michiu kaku also chimed in on the side the president should have kicked BP out and taken charge of the situation.

And done what? You'd think someone as brilliant as a renowned physicist would be able to also explain what the president and federal government would be able to do that BP can't do!

[Barnaby Jones]

dude, if you can't think of
10 things off the top of your head,
i can't help you

you are as uncreative
as Prez Nero
but perhaps not as lackadaisical

You can't even bring up one!

[Judge Smails]

http://imgur.com/Vdppb.jpg

[sailor]

And done what? You'd think someone as brilliant as a renowned physicist would be able to also explain what the president and federal government would be able to do that BP can't do!


First, assemble the best and the brightest to work on it, rather than limiting the effort to the people who happen to work for one corporation. Second, you'd have the military work on recovery efforts. And then you send BP a bill for everything.

[Barnaby Jones]

First, assemble the best and the brightest to work on it, rather than limiting the effort to the people who happen to work for one corporation. Second, you'd have the military work on recovery efforts. And then you send BP a bill for everything.

First, "assembling the best and brightest" like it ain't no thang and they're just sitting around waiting to come help is about as realistic as Dude!'s suggestion to basically draft people and force them to clean up the spill. Secondly, most of the people best suited to devising means to plug the leak are already working in the oil industry, including for BP. BP is in a much better position to handle this whether people want to admit it or not! Thirdly, our military is a little occupied between Iraq, Afghanistan, rising tensions with NK and now sending troops to the Mexican-US border! They don't exactly have the guys or resources to spare to go clean up an oil spill!

[sailor]

First, "assembling the best and brightest" like it ain't no thang and they're just sitting around waiting to come help is about as realistic as Dude!'s suggestion to basically draft people and force them to clean up the spill. Secondly, most of the people best suited to devising means to plug the leak are already working in the oil industry, including for BP. BP is in a much better position to handle this whether people want to admit it or not! Thirdly, our military is a little occupied between Iraq, Afghanistan, rising tensions with NK and now sending troops to the Mexican-US border! They don't exactly have the guys or resources to spare to go clean up an oil spill!

dr. kaku says the bp scientists are not good enough to handle the situation. you've given no compelling argument to the contrary.

[torker]

dr. kaku says the bp scientists are not good enough to handle the situation. you've given no compelling argument to the contrary.

He always makes me think of Dr. Yukio Hattori, who is nearly as creepy.
http://www.hayseed.net/~taliesin/IC/Hattori/bw.jpg

[Barnaby Jones]

dr. kaku says the bp scientists are not good enough to handle the situation. you've given no compelling argument to the contrary.

So where are these better qualified "oil spill scientists" if they're not mostly already working in the oil industry? Why would BP refuse to seek them out? Letting the spill get worse and worse is in no way in BP's best interests at all.

[Chigworthy]

So where are these better qualified "oil spill scientists" if they're not mostly already working in the oil industry? Why would BP refuse to seek them out? Letting the spill get worse and worse is in no way in BP's best interests at all.

It doesn't matter what BP's interests are if they are incapable of fixing the problem. And the nature of the problem doesn't distill down to an oil spill problem to be solved by "oil spill scientists", it is a physics problem, and Kaku's statement that putting together a think tank of physicists to begin troubleshooting the problem and developing multiple solutions is not unreasonable. It is unreasonable to think that because BP is a huge oil corp that they automatically are the best ones to deal with it, and should be trusted to have the capability to do so on their own. If you reason this way, then they should have never let the problem arise, because it wouldn't be in their best interest.

[sailor]

It doesn't matter what BP's interests are if they are incapable of fixing the problem. And the nature of the problem doesn't distill down to an oil spill problem to be solved by "oil spill scientists", it is a physics problem, and Kaku's statement that putting together a think tank of physicists to begin troubleshooting the problem and developing multiple solutions is not unreasonable. It is unreasonable to think that because BP is a huge oil corp that they automatically are the best ones to deal with it, and should be trusted to have the capability to do so on their own. If you reason this way, then they should have never let the problem arise, because it wouldn't be in their best interest.

oh no, now you're a racist too. sorry.

[Barnaby Jones]

It doesn't matter what BP's interests are if they are incapable of fixing the problem. And the nature of the problem doesn't distill down to an oil spill problem to be solved by "oil spill scientists", it is a physics problem, and Kaku's statement that putting together a think tank of physicists to begin troubleshooting the problem and developing multiple solutions is not unreasonable. It is unreasonable to think that because BP is a huge oil corp that they automatically are the best ones to deal with it, and should be trusted to have the capability to do so on their own. If you reason this way, then they should have never let the problem arise, because it wouldn't be in their best interest.

I don't think "trust" is necessarily an issue at this point in terms of expecting BP to do what it takes to get this done. The spill continuing is in no way a good thing for them, and they gain nothing out of it continuing. If getting a super team of physics is the right idea then let them take care of it since I think it is seriously debatable that the government is better able to do that than a huge multinational oil corporation. Nobody is really offering much in the way of suggestions that only the government can handle or manage better than BP.

[Dude!]

why are you so fucking dense?

the government could have
called on all the engineers
at all the other oil companies
and said you need to get in here
and brainstorm with us

obama could have called in the best
engineers in the world...from nasa
and elsewhere

if my house is on fire
it is "in my interest to put it out"
therefore I shouldn't call the firemen?

we had a crash program to develop
a fucking atom bomb
we have fucking put people on the
fucking moon
we developed and fucking perfected computers

the best physicists and engineers in the
world do not work for BP
they should have been coralled
a month ago

[torker]

why are you so fucking dense?

the government could have
called on all the engineers
at all the other oil companies
and said you need to get in here
and brainstorm with us

obama could have called in the best
engineers in the world...from nasa
and elsewhere

when my house is on fire
it is "im my interest to put it out"
therefore I shouldn't call the firemen?

we had a crash program to develop
a fucking atom bomb
we have fucking put people on the
fucking moon
we developed and fucking perfected computers

the best physicists and engineers in the
world do not work for BP
they should have been coralled
a month ago

Obama has already taken control of the auto industry,health care, the financial system, etc. according to pundits in the know. What would they be crying about if he did this?

I think it's a great idea to pool resources, solve the problem and submit the bill to BP.

[Dude!]

Obama has already taken control of the auto industry,health care, the financial system, etc. according to pundits in the know. What would they be crying about if he did this?

I think it's a great idea to pool resources, solve the problem and submit the bill to BP.

taking control of a situation
is not the same as
taking control of a company

it is already horrendous
but the worst-case scenario
for this thing is incomprehensible
it should have been
'all hands on deck' all along

[Barnaby Jones]

taking control of a situation
is not the same as
taking control of a company

it is already horrendous
but the worst-case scenario
for this thing is incomprehensible
it should have been
'all hands on deck' all along

To take control of the situation you want him to take control of everything! You want him to draft young people without jobs to clean up the spill! You want him to order engineers working for private companies into service to work on the problem! You've been one of the usual yahoos claiming about how he's overstepped his bounds in terms of private industry and personal liberty, yet here you are crowing that he trample over all of your previous lame gripes just so you can find something new to bitch about! Your latest outrage is completely contradicting with your old outrages!

Pop quiz, hotshot: why is the government better able ore more suited to hire a think tank to figure this out as opposed to BP doing the same? You're anti-big government only when it's convenient! If a think tank is the best route to go then the pressure should be put on BP to go that route!

[torker]

taking control of a situation
is not the same as
taking control of a company

it is already horrendous
but the worst-case scenario
for this thing is incomprehensible
it should have been
'all hands on deck' all along

maybe even a contingency plan before operations began

[Barnaby Jones]

maybe even a contingency plan before operations began

Maybe actually making some kind of effort to ween us off our dependence on oil like he talked about!

[torker]

Maybe actually making some kind of effort to ween us off our dependence on oil like he talked about!

let's not get too crazy:wink:

[Chigworthy]

I don't think "trust" is necessarily an issue at this point in terms of expecting BP to do what it takes to get this done. The spill continuing is in no way a good thing for them, and they gain nothing out of it continuing. If getting a super team of physics is the right idea then let them take care of it since I think it is seriously debatable that the government is better able to do that than a huge multinational oil corporation. Nobody is really offering much in the way of suggestions that only the government can handle or manage better than BP.

How do you not see the trustworthiness of BP as an issue here? You want them to take care of the problem themselves, yet you aren't concerned with trust? Whatever you are, you are bafflingly obtuse.

[Chigworthy]

Maybe actually making some kind of effort to ween us off our dependence on oil like he talked about!

You want to depend on BP to fix the problem at the same time you want to ween us off of our dependence on BP? Maybe we can sternly tell BP to ween us off of oil, once they tidy up that little oil spritzer in the gulf.

[Pitdoc]

maybe even a contingency plan before operations began

They were required to submit JUST such a plan before they began drilling. They just lied through their teeth when they did it.

[hanso]

Those things are in place. Just in all other places, not here.

[torker]

They were required to submit JUST such a plan before they began drilling. They just lied through their teeth when they did it.

Bastard people.:furious:

[CaptainBlowhole]

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2010/6/4/64%20In%20Case%20You%20Didnt%20Know%20Theyre%20Smo thered%20In%20Oil_thumb.jpg

[hanso]

i suppose i should cut
the dope some more slack
on this

after all, he is
"focused like a laser beam'
on creating jobs

and that is working out
so well

Jobs in May biggest in 10 years. Try again (FNC) / Dude!.

[Dude!]

Jobs in May biggest in 10 years. Try again (FNC) / Dude!.

good lord...
90% of the 'gain'
was temporary govt-paid
census workers
(apparently many of whom were
double-counted)

only 51,000 real jobs!

[Barnaby Jones]

How do you not see the trustworthiness of BP as an issue here? You want them to take care of the problem themselves, yet you aren't concerned with trust? Whatever you are, you are bafflingly obtuse.

I'm not saying BP gets a blank check in terms of trust going forward! I'm saying in terms of actually wanting to stop the leak not trusting them is bordering on paranoia. In no way can it possibly be a good thing for BP for the leak to continue and for this to get worse and worse. Bringing up "trust" seems to be saying we have to look at their efforts and desire to stop the leak suspiciously, as if they might have a reason to not want it done as quickly as possible! While their presence as a business does indeed throw their actions leading up to the accident into a suspicious light given what's being revealed, being a business also gives them arguably more motivation than anyone else to get this leak plugged ASAP and get a full clean up under way! Anything else at this point is an inevitable disaster for them! What motivation would they have otherwise to let this drag out? Necessity is the motivator right now!

[Barnaby Jones]

You want to depend on BP to fix the problem at the same time you want to ween us off of our dependence on BP? Maybe we can sternly tell BP to ween us off of oil, once they tidy up that little oil spritzer in the gulf.

You really can't separate the two points? I want BP to fix this right now because I really don't think the government is necessarily in any better position than a company the size of and with the resources of BP to get this done or to hire the people needed to get this done. I also wish that prior to this Obama had stuck to his rhetoric and not endorsed the Palin-esque nonsense of encouraging more drilling off of our shores! The two points can easily be made!

[underdog]

I'm not saying BP gets a blank check in terms of trust going forward! I'm saying in terms of actually stopping the leak not trusting them is bordering on paranoia. In no way can it possibly be a good thing for BP for the leak to continue and for this to get worse and worse. Bringing up "trust" seems to be saying we have to look at their efforts and desire to stop the leak suspiciously, as if they might have a reason to not want it done as quickly as possible! While their presence as a business does indeed throw their actions leading up to the accident into a suspicious light, being a business also gives them arguably more motivation than anyone else to get this leak plugged ASAP and get a full clean up under way! Anything else at this point is an inevitable disaster for them! What motivation would they have otherwise to let this drag out?

Not trusting an oil company to do what is best for the general population is bordering on paranoia? If it makes more sense, financially, to throw half-assed solutions at the problem, rather than fix it right, they're going to go with whatever is the cheaper option.

What, are people going to stop buying their gas over this? No one follows boycotts and six months after this is stopped and cleaned up, no one will give a shit about it and will gladly continue to purchase their gas.

[Barnaby Jones]

Not trusting an oil company to do what is best for the general population is bordering on paranoia? If it makes more sense, financially, to throw half-assed solutions at the problem, rather than fix it right, they're going to go with whatever is the cheaper option.

What, are people going to stop buying their gas over this? No one follows boycotts and six months after this is stopped and cleaned up, no one will give a shit about it and will gladly continue to purchase their gas.

I'm not talking about public opinion! I'm talking about how this pipeline is a critical asset that they need! Forget PR and think about the greed you guys keep spinning as showing how we can't trust BP at all to get this done. Ironically, their greed is actually the best motivator for them to get this done because they need that pipeline to be salvageable and they need that oil. If anything, the government has much more motivation to just half-ass it to the point where the oil leak is simply stopped for the time being! You guys talk about trust, but as scummy as BP is I'm more inclined to trust them over the government in this situation since they need that pipeline and the government at this point is just going to be mainly focused on public perception and the public can be placated if they simply can no longer see the footage of the oil spewing out, regardless of whether it was accomplished with a good long term solution, and people cleaning off birds with toothbrushes. If anyone would be the biggest shysters at this point it would be the government looking for the quick fix!

[sink]

What, are people going to stop buying their gas over this?

Not buying BP gas at a BP gas station won't really impact BP, that's not really their prime revenue generator. They are not in the retail gas business anymore, you will just be hurting the local owners and operators of the stations which is just avg Joe America since BP sold those stations years ago.

[hanso]

good lord...
90% of the 'gain'
was temporary govt-paid
census workers
(apparently many of whom were
double-counted)

only 51,000 real jobs!

Many other signs have been shown for a long time. Manufacturing gains of the last 10 months. The service sector just to name a few. I can't believe you are still clawing to this outlook. Read the Money section digest of your local newspaper. And turn off Fox News.

[Dude!]

Many other signs have been shown for a long time. Manufacturing gains of the last 10 months. The service sector just to name a few. I can't believe you are still clawing to this outlook. Read the Money section digest of your local newspaper. And turn off Fox News.

you should start reading
financial magazines
instead of the communist manifesto

[hanso]

Financial magazines that Murdock publishes? I will stay with my newspaper.


Local newspapers are "communist manifestos". Are you Billo himself?

[sailor]

maybe people just don't "trust" they have the ability to fix the mess? only a crazy person would think they want the spill to continue, so what's the point in arguing that they don't?

[StanUpshaw]

I hate seeing all these pictures of the dead birds. Why oh why can't we switch to renewables? You know, like wind turbines.

[Dude!]

I hate seeing all these pictures of the dead birds. Why oh why can't we switch to renewables? You know, like wind turbines.

BP wants us to switch to
plastic birds instead

[hanso]

BP wants us to switch to
plastic birds instead

Good 1. Those are made from oil also.

[brettmojo]

I hate seeing all these pictures of the dead birds. Why oh why can't we switch to renewables? You know, like wind turbines.
QUIET! You wanna' end up like the guy who invented the car that runs on water?

[Jujubees2]

QUIET! You wanna' end up like the guy who invented the car that runs on water?

You mean a boat?

[CaptainBlowhole]

Are there any physics people on this board? I ask because I was wondering something today:
As the oil is escaping up the tube from its subterranean cavern where it was, does water from the ocean fill up the space vacated by the oil? If so, I am wondering if at some point, will there just be a giant suck down of ocean into that cavern and fill it up with water and it ejects all its oil at once? Does the weight of the ocean on the ocean floor pressing down on the ground that is above that cavern create a continual pressure on that oil deposit and force it out?
I hope I am making sense. :|

[StanUpshaw]

As with any "gusher," the pressure inside the cavity is going to be far greater than the outside area. Nothing from the outside will be able to come in until the pressure is equalized.

I'm not sure that ever happens. It could be that whatever geologic forces causing the pressure would be so great that any cavities will be destroyed once the oil inside them is forced out.

[CaptainBlowhole]

I wonder if it may be known that this will just implode at some point and there will be a massive outpouring of oil, and it will be devastating, and that they know it and its why they aren't trying so hard, because they know it is inevitable. I am just speculating here. Because I have been trying to figure out why this is something that they cant seem to control any better than they are. I understand the complex logistics of working a mile deep under water and whatnot are daunting. I just wonder if I may be right and they are standing back, knowing its going to blow like a volcano.

[StanUpshaw]

Why would it blow? What exactly would blow? What gives you the impression that anything else is unstable?

[tanless1]

Natural gas is what pressurizes the well, not gravity. You are correct that during the process they shoot water into the well to increase pressure for continued oil extraction.

[tanless1]

I think what blowhole is referencing is kakus explination of the nuclear option creating an unstable glassified spherical cavern colapsing on itself causing and increased pressure on the oil pool.

What I thought kaku neglected was that although the cavern is unstable, that liqued is not compressible. So would support the interior structure, if they could fill the vacumm quick enough......of course let's not neglect the nuclear contamination.do consider that our military may have clean nuclear tech held back from public scrutiny.

[Barnaby Jones]

They should have accepted James Cameron's offer to help! That guy rules the seas...and his lesbian Muppet haircut!

But seriously, the guy knows his shit when it comes to deep sea research and exploration, plus he has a ton of money! Let him help, BP!

[CaptainBlowhole]

Actually, that was not what I meant. What I was referring to is whether the deposit of oil is taking on water while the oil is coming out. I imagine it like a windex bottle. You have the tube that's in the windex and when you pump the trigger, it is forcing air into the bottle and the air pushes down on the windex, which rises up the tube and out the front of the nozzle. So, air going in is pressing out the windex. The oil well is spraying out oil and something is pushing it out. Either it is naturally under its own pressure, or they are pumping it. But since the platform is gone now, there is no mechanism pumping it up. So, I suspect that the tube that goes down into the oil deposit is a tube within a tube, and that water is coming in as oil is coming out or something else is happening. I have a feeling that the water going in is "priming the pump", and like emptying a fish tank with a hose, once it starts, it won't stop unless that tube gets clogged up.

[underdog]

BP Buys 'Oil' Search Terms to Redirect Users to Official Company Website (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Broadcast/bp-buys-search-engine-phrases-redirecting-users/story?id=10835618)

[badmonkey]

BP Buys 'Oil' Search Terms to Redirect Users to Official Company Website (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Broadcast/bp-buys-search-engine-phrases-redirecting-users/story?id=10835618)

Oh no! These companies and other organizations did it too! People are using search terms to advertise and get out their message! This evilness has got to be stopped! President Obama, here is a partial list of asses that need kicked.

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Resources, how you can Help
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What is BP Doing?
Tell BP to Worry About Cleaning the
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and destroying lives. You can help.
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[underdog]

Oh no! These companies and other organizations did it too! People are using search terms to advertise and get out their message! This evilness has got to be stopped! President Obama, here is a partial list of asses that need kicked.

Wow, you sure read a lot into me posting a link from ABCnews.com.

[badmonkey]

Wow, you sure read a lot into me posting a link from ABCnews.com.

You didn't make any commentary about the link so my response was to the story at the web link that you posted. Nothing to do with you at all.

[StanUpshaw]

Actually, that was not what I meant. What I was referring to is whether the deposit of oil is taking on water while the oil is coming out. I imagine it like a windex bottle. You have the tube that's in the windex and when you pump the trigger, it is forcing air into the bottle and the air pushes down on the windex, which rises up the tube and out the front of the nozzle. So, air going in is pressing out the windex. The oil well is spraying out oil and something is pushing it out. Either it is naturally under its own pressure, or they are pumping it. But since the platform is gone now, there is no mechanism pumping it up. So, I suspect that the tube that goes down into the oil deposit is a tube within a tube, and that water is coming in as oil is coming out or something else is happening. I have a feeling that the water going in is "priming the pump", and like emptying a fish tank with a hose, once it starts, it won't stop unless that tube gets clogged up.

Can I ask why you're relying on your imagination to explain what's going on down there? There are plenty of resources available that range from complex technical information all the way to simple USA Today diagrams. Stop guessing.

[hanso]

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[CaptainBlowhole]

Can I ask why you're relying on your imagination to explain what's going on down there? There are plenty of resources available that range from complex technical information all the way to simple USA Today diagrams. Stop guessing.

I guess these things because its obvious that the news and even BP are not fully aware of whats going on down there and why. Deep sea drilling is kind of a new exploration tool, relatively speaking. I have not met anyone who even knows how the rig was held in place and attached to the sea bed. Most people assumed that it stood of legs that were attached to the floor of the ocean. Must be nice to have legs a mile high!

[hanso]

BP is the third biggest company in the world. Maybe the legs are made of money.

[sink]

I guess these things because its obvious that the news and even BP are not fully aware of whats going on down there and why. Deep sea drilling is kind of a new exploration tool, relatively speaking. I have not met anyone who even knows how the rig was held in place and attached to the sea bed. Most people assumed that it stood of legs that were attached to the floor of the ocean. Must be nice to have legs a mile high!

Meet me, it was a tension leg platform with pontoons that floated, using a 16 point mooring system and dynamic position technology to stay stationary. It was not attached to the sea bed.

The riser attachment is fed up from the sea floor with buoyancy technology to keep stress off the collar joints and welds and the rig is hooked up to with a breakaway manifold system. Between the mooring and DP technology, the rig, while floating, barely moves.

As far as the point of reservoir collapse, the shale formation are far to strong and displaced with seawater. There is a return riser using your windex bottle example not to create a vacuum and allow a dual flow.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Meet me, it was a tension leg platform with pontoons that floated, using a 16 point mooring system and dynamic position technology to stay stationary. It was not attached to the sea bed.

The riser attachment is fed up from the sea floor with buoyancy technology to keep stress off the collar joints and welds and the rig is hooked up to with a breakaway manifold system. Between the mooring and DP technology, the rig, while floating, barely moves.

As far as the point of reservoir collapse, the shale formation are far to strong and displaced with seawater. There is a return riser using your windex bottle example not to create a vacuum and allow a dual flow.

Sink = http://www.zuguide.com/image/Bruce-Willis-Armageddon.3.jpg

[torker]

Sink = http://www.zuguide.com/image/Bruce-Willis-Armageddon.3.jpg

more like http://www.agonybooth.com/images/articles/Armageddon_1998/cast_aj.jpg

[sink]

Hardy - i wear a suit and sit in an office and when I need to talk to a rig punch them up on a camera. I rarely step foot on those things, I hate helicopters.