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hydee

05-21-2010, 06:09 AM

You guys don't even remember what you are fighting about anymore, do you? Just follow ESD cause his videos are funny. Like Chigworthy's signature says "There is magic everywhere up in this bitch." Peace, love, and fuckin rainbows.

It's not what we are fighting about it's who.

What I don't get is how people can rally around a guy who not a month ago got his ass handed to him by his boss about his lack of understanding about his job. If this was a producer on O and A people would have been calling for his head. Dave gets a pass on this because he has two kids and needs more money. I don't understand that mentality.

Dave didn't sign on to the show as on air talent he signed on as a producer, something that he actually doesn't do according to Ron. So I would think that the person people should want to give a raise to is the guy who is doing the job he was hired to do and that is Hick.

oPant

05-21-2010, 06:13 AM

It's not what we are fighting about it's who.

What I don't get is how people can rally around a guy who not a month ago got his ass handed to him by his boss about his lack of understanding about his job. If this was a producer on O and A people would have been calling for his head. Dave gets a pass on this because he has two kids and needs more money. I don't understand that mentality.

Dave didn't sign on to the show as on air talent he signed on as a producer, something that he actually doesn't do according to Ron. So I would think that the person people should want to give a raise to is the guy who is doing the job he was hired to do and that is Hick.

He doesn't deserve a raise because he has a family. He obviously can't manage money well. You don't get tattoos if you are broke.

He deserves a raise because he is an on air personality and the show needs him, many poeple can produce, not everyone can be good enough on the air for you not to turn the show off.

mikeyboy

05-21-2010, 06:26 AM

He doesn't deserve a raise because he has a family. He obviously can't manage money well. You don't get tattoos if you are broke.

Minor point, but he hasn't paid for a tattoo since he started working for R&F (i.e. all tats since being on the show have been to pay off bets).

Also, he isn't saying that he deserves more because he has a family. He's saying he can't support a family on what they pay him (he really doesn't make very much). If they don't value him enough to pay him what he needs to support his family, he'll be forced to go somewhere that will.

hydee

05-21-2010, 06:30 AM

He doesn't deserve a raise because he has a family. He obviously can't manage money well. You don't get tattoos if you are broke.

He deserves a raise because he is an on air personality and the show needs him, many poeple can produce, not everyone can be good enough on the air for you not to turn the show off.

Well if Dave was so great on the air then you would assume that agents would be lining up to work with him and according to Dave he is being turned down left and right in that regard. The thing is that Dave needs to grow up, stop acting like a 30 year old child, stop posting videos and work the fuck out of the unfortunate break he was given. Maybe if he did that he wouldn't have to pull a radio stunt in order to get a raise.

The sad thing is that I think that he will get this raise and he won't learn anything along the way, Dave has had the kind of life that things are just given to him, and I don't think he has really had to learn about hard work and what it takes to be a success.

oPant

05-21-2010, 06:32 AM

Dave has had the kind of life that things are just given to him,

Like a job in Manhattan that pays $10 an hour?

hydee

05-21-2010, 06:39 AM

Like a job in Manhattan that pays $10 an hour?

Like a wedding, an engagement ring, a honeymoon, free tattoo, gifts from fans from his wish list. Those things are handed over to him like it happens everyday. Something that I think was a detriment to him becoming a grown up. Learning to fend for yourself is something that needs to be instilled early in life and I don't think that Dave ever had to learn that lesson. He was living at home until he was what 24? Not exactly being a man and getting out there and learning about life.

Furtherman

05-21-2010, 06:42 AM

I don't think that Dave ever had to learn that lesson.

You don't know what Dave has learned in his life. Your speculation is beyond what we hear on the show, and that's all that matters here.

UnknownPD

05-21-2010, 06:42 AM

Sure he does. But if I had a valuable employee who desired/required more money (regardless of the reason), my only question would be whether I could find someone else to do the same work without compromising my profit.

I.e., could I find someone with the same or better skills who would not cost me subscribers/require a bigger salary?

How much more he does relative to when he started wouldn't matter.

You obviously don't own a business.

Freitag

05-21-2010, 06:48 AM

Like a wedding, an engagement ring, a honeymoon, free tattoo, gifts from fans from his wish list. Those things are handed over to him like it happens everyday. Something that I think was a detriment to him becoming a grown up. Learning to fend for yourself is something that needs to be instilled early in life and I don't think that Dave ever had to learn that lesson. He was living at home until he was what 24? Not exactly being a man and getting out there and learning about life.

free tattoo? really? Those were bet losses traded for plugs on the air. The ring was also a barter deal via K-rock sales department, and not part of the sirius compensation discussion.

Freitag

05-21-2010, 06:54 AM

Well if Dave was so great on the air then you would assume that agents would be lining up to work with him and according to Dave he is being turned down left and right in that regard.

Agents were for acting/TV work, not radio work.

The thing is that Dave needs to grow up, stop acting like a 30 year old child,

OK, that I'll agree with, but we don't know how much is "character" and how much is the real ESD.

stop posting videos

What does this have to do with anything? It doesn't cost anything and if anything, enhances his creative value to Sirius.

Maybe if he did that he wouldn't have to pull a radio stunt in order to get a raise.

People are listening. People are talking. Which means it worked. If the idea is to get people to listen and chatter, THEN DAVE DESERVES A RAISE.

Dave has had the kind of life that things are just given to him, and I don't think he has really had to learn about hard work and what it takes to be a success.

Dave went from working at a college radio station to producing one of the top national radio shows in less than five years. I would say that's pretty successful, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

hydee

05-21-2010, 07:15 AM

Agents were for acting/TV work, not radio work.

This website disagrees with you sir. http://www.roberteatman.com/

Isn't this the guy that helped Lilly get her job???

What does this have to do with anything? It doesn't cost anything and if anything, enhances his creative value to Sirius.

Maybe less video's and more sponsors for Sam and Dave??? OMG seriously.

People are listening. People are talking. Which means it worked. If the idea is to get people to listen and chatter, THEN DAVE DESERVES A RAISE.

Well I can see a lot of people in this tread not agreeing with Dave's tactics but that's just me I guess.

Dave went from working at a college radio station to producing one of the top national radio shows in less than five years. I would say that's pretty successful, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

when Earl was asked how should replace him he said Mooch, when that didn't happen Hicks stepped up to the plate and ran with it. When it comes to production I don't see Dave in that role. Hicks went from being a intern running after Earl with a cell phone to being an almost sole producer for at least 2 radio shows. Also how successful is a guy who doesn't know the ins and outs of the business when asked after 4 year I mean come on if a guy at your job didn't know his job after 4 fucking years you would want him to be fired. Please forget that you like Dave as a person and think of him as a cog in the Sirius machine.

indymike

05-21-2010, 08:08 AM

Like a job in Manhattan that pays $10 an hour?

I believe Dave actually makes less than that if you assume he works, say, 60 hours a week which is actually probably pretty accurate (if not an underestimate).

Like a wedding

He didn't ask for the wedding. From what I remember, up until Ron decided they would have a wedding at the Hard Rock the plan was to have a very small, private ceremony. But Dave, being the good employee, seemed to want to please Ron and went with the suggestion.

And If it didn't get mentioned in this thread yet, even Anthony today said he thought Dave should get paid 'what he deserves' (implying he is underpaid) and noted that he feels that it will be noticed if Dave leaves the show - unlike when Earl left.

I'm not saying that to bash Earl - I actually like him on the show, however I do feel it is an accurate statement from Ant.

oPant

05-21-2010, 08:23 AM

As far as twitter goes, it's very easy to follow him. Sign up for Twitter and then click the follow button which is in a hyperlink in this thread. That's all you have to do. I have Twitter, but I don't really like it and only sign in when I hear that something interesting happens, which is less than once a week.

And then Dave will follow you too. :king: He is probably the only person on Twitter that follows more people than he has followers. :flush:

oPant

05-21-2010, 08:28 AM

Lets say he makes $500 a week. Even if they double his salary it's still shit when he's the second mic on the show. Maybe he should look for an agent.

JPMNICK

05-21-2010, 08:28 AM

i really hope the company does right by dave. he has put in a ton of time for this job, which was his dream job. he never wanted to be on air from the start, he wanted to work for R&F. he was thrust into this role and has succeeded.

ShowerBench

05-21-2010, 08:54 AM

I can't help but thinking your 'deadly seriousness' is tongue in cheek. First of all, who says 'deadly serious' except maybe Shirley Phelps talking about hating gays, abortion clinic bombers, or, like you said, NRA members. Fez is a funny guy who has seen better days but seriously hard to imagine anyone being 'deadly serious' about protecting his honor.

If you are a board character and we are rubes, well done.

I engage in various levels of hyperbole but I wouldn't go as far as "board character." Love Fezzie on his best and worst days!

Don Stugots

05-21-2010, 08:55 AM

say what you want about Matty being a douche but this is a good idea. my suggestion just use one hashtag on twitter. the #davepound one, the others arent needed.

disneyspy

05-21-2010, 08:58 AM

say what you want about Matty being a douche but this is a good idea. my suggestion just use one hashtag on twitter. the #davepound one, the others arent needed.

SIRIUS doesnt see the #davepound hash tag,but a simple twitter search of 'sirius' which i'm sure they do read is much more effective and as ive learned hashtags are over rated and ignored because they are aimed and therefore forced and useless.

oPant

05-21-2010, 08:59 AM

I engage in various levels of hyperbole but I wouldn't go as far as "board character." Love Fezzie on his best and worst days!

He's a bored character.

Don Stugots

05-21-2010, 08:59 AM

SIRIUS doesnt see the #davepound hash tag,but a simple twitter search of 'sirius' which i'm sure they do read is much more effective and as ive learned hashtags are over rated and ignored because they are aimed and therefore forced and useless.

then send them right to the sirus account.

Penelope

05-21-2010, 09:01 AM

It's not what we are fighting about it's who.

What I don't get is how people can rally around a guy who not a month ago got his ass handed to him by his boss about his lack of understanding about his job. If this was a producer on O and A people would have been calling for his head. Dave gets a pass on this because he has two kids and needs more money. I don't understand that mentality.

Dave didn't sign on to the show as on air talent he signed on as a producer, something that he actually doesn't do according to Ron. So I would think that the person people should want to give a raise to is the guy who is doing the job he was hired to do and that is Hick.

Dave doesn't deserve a raise because he has kids. He deserves a raise because he has become a really necessary part of the show. He's hilarious and can't be replaced. I love Ron and Fez. Fan since 2001. I don't know if I will listen if Dave was gone though. For whatever reason Dave makes me laugh like no one else. He's unique and amazing. Despite signing on as a producer, Dave is a major part of the on air talent. The shows where he is gone are kind of rough to hear.
I don't care how they do things on the O and A show. That show is doo doo and I can't stand it. I do appreciate what O and A have done for Ron and Fez's career though. I've got to give them credit for that.

disneyspy

05-21-2010, 09:01 AM

then send them right to the sirus account.

again aimed,if you're a corporation you will pay more attention to what people are thinking by tweets that express feelings to your followers and not those that are aimed

hydee

05-21-2010, 09:32 AM

Dave doesn't deserve a raise because he has kids. He deserves a raise because he has become a really necessary part of the show. He's hilarious and can't be replaced. I love Ron and Fez. Fan since 2001. I don't know if I will listen if Dave was gone though. For whatever reason Dave makes me laugh like no one else. He's unique and amazing. Despite signing on as a producer, Dave is a major part of the on air talent. The shows where he is gone are kind of rough to hear.
I don't care how they do things on the O and A show. That show is doo doo and I can't stand it. I do appreciate what O and A have done for Ron and Fez's career though. I've got to give them credit for that.

Think about this from a company stand point and not from the stand point of someone who is a fan of Dave's. If you worked at a place for 4 years with a person and he made you laugh like crazy, but still didn't know how to do the job he was hired for would you think that guy deserved a raise? Sure Dave has been an asset to the show. Sure he has entertained some people, but that wasn't his job. His job was for a producer not a second or third mic. He was given an unfortunate break ( I say this because Fez having two heart attacks isn't a lucky thing) he ran with it, but once Fez came back he should have stepped back and went back into that booth, to do his job as producer of the show.

Hicks doesn't complain about his job at all but can you imagine how stressed he is knowing how much of the show stuff is on his shoulders? Is it fair to him to not have help producing the show. Again where is the calls for his raise, or Sam's raise. Sam makes about as much as Dave does. He does The Sam and Dave show, the O and A show, the weekend count down show, and he is a DJ at night. I think he deserves a raise too.

You think Dave is funny. You are entertained by him, but he isn't the end all and be all of the Ron and Fez show. He is just another in a long line of producers that have been on the show and I am sure somewhere out there in a communications class, someone funnier and more competent could take his place.

ShowerBench

05-21-2010, 10:16 AM

I only like Dave in small doses on Ron and Fez, and think that since he is incapable of small doses, we hear less of Ron and Fez which makes that show less enjoyable. This was confirmed again on the days he was out and Fez's performance and the show in general improved. Those shows were the best in a long time.

However, I would probably listen to Davey Red sports because his nonstop ranting lends itself to a solo show like this. He is very funny arguing with himself, becoming inexplicably incensed in the middle of a monologue, etc.

Sports calls for the passion of a screaming motormouth where other topics commonly discussed on Ron and Fez do not, and so that style becomes grating over 4 hours. He would probably be hilarious with political commentary too if he cared about it as much as he does sports.

Freitag

05-21-2010, 10:39 AM

This website disagrees with you sir. http://www.roberteatman.com/

Isn't this the guy that helped Lilly get her job???

No, the person who got Lilly her job is Ron and Opie. Brother Wease is Opie's mentor. Bob Eatman is O&A's and R&F's agent. Eatman did NOT reject Dave for something. When Dave was discussing agents who rejected him and doing his Tarantino impression, he was not referring to Eatman.

Maybe less video's and more sponsors for Sam and Dave??? OMG seriously.

So let me get this straight, you want Dave to do SALES for SiriusXM too?

when Earl was asked how should replace him he said Mooch, when that didn't happen Hicks stepped up to the plate and ran with it. When it comes to production I don't see Dave in that role. Hicks went from being a intern running after Earl with a cell phone to being an almost sole producer for at least 2 radio shows. Also how successful is a guy who doesn't know the ins and outs of the business when asked after 4 year I mean come on if a guy at your job didn't know his job after 4 fucking years you would want him to be fired. Please forget that you like Dave as a person and think of him as a cog in the Sirius machine.

1) When did Earl say Mooch should replace him? As I remember, the talk of replacing Earl with Mooch was something that happened on the board, and then something happened behind the scenes with Fez and Mooch to the point where Mooch isn't talked about AT ALL anymore.

2) You again bring up that Hicks is producing solo. Where are you getting this idea outside of an offhand comment made by Ron? Once again, [citation needed]

Freitag

05-21-2010, 10:46 AM

JPMNICK

05-21-2010, 10:48 AM

BTW...

I love the Dave haters who are taking an isolated incident of Ron yelling at Dave over a month ago about not being able to do his job when Dukes and Earl were smashed DAILY - if not HOURLY - about how they couldn't do their jobs.

how about when ron would say the only reason Rory had a job was because fez protected them.... and 6 years later we now understand why

hydee

05-21-2010, 10:54 AM

I am done with this, Dave will get his raise you guys will be happy and I guess that's all that matters.

SinA

05-21-2010, 11:00 AM

i did this in about 5 minutes, but now i gotta go back to work. i can email someone the .psd if they want to fix it up.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/4627552658_febe17f60d_o.jpg

disneyspy

05-21-2010, 11:02 AM

i did this in about 5 minutes, but now i gotta go back to work. i can email someone the .psd if they want to fix it up.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/4627552658_febe17f60d_o.jpg

awesome,put in ron and fez show 197,202 and i'll tweet it

Freitag

05-21-2010, 11:02 AM

I am pretty sure Lilly thanked Bob Eatman one or twice after getting her job.

For career advice. Do you think you hire an agent to get a producer job on a radio show?

The day that Ron handed Dave his ass about his professionalism Ron asked how many sponsors his show had he had 2 that were questionable and Ron wasn't impressed.

IT'S NOT TALENT'S JOB TO GET SPONSORS.

It was right before the whole thing with Danny happened and Ron asked Earl who should replace him and Earl said Mooch. I remember it like it was yesterday. Then Ron asked the rest of the crew and they said Mooch too.

Why are we even discussing Mooch? He's out of the picture.

Why does it have to be something that is said over and over again.

Ron also once said he had a tanker full of blow off the coast of Florida and his dad woke him up every morning at gunpoint.

Dave forget you are a fan and think about this if you worked with someone for 4 years and he made you laugh but didn't know how to do the job he was hired for, do you think he deserves a raise for that.

Because here's the key fault of your argument. Dave isn't doing the job he's hired for - he's doing the job of someone else who is NOT doing their job.

Dave is asking for the raise not as a producer, but as talent.

Furtherman

05-21-2010, 11:07 AM

i did this in about 5 minutes, but now i gotta go back to work. i can email someone the .psd if they want to fix it up.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/4627552658_febe17f60d_o.jpg

Fantastic!

Furtherman

05-21-2010, 11:08 AM

I am done with this, Dave will get his raise you guys will be happy and I guess that's all that matters.

Yep. That's it.

disneyspy

05-21-2010, 11:09 AM

Fantastic!

dont even try to claim it as your own,plagerist boy

shit

fuck

cock

Furtherman

05-21-2010, 11:11 AM

dont even try to claim it as your own,plagerist boy

shit

fuck

cock

I'm already selling it outside and I've got the vendor who alerted the cops to the car bomb pushing it for me. I will be a millionaire by closing time.

DOHO@HOME

05-21-2010, 11:22 AM

I am done with this, Dave will get his raise you guys will be happy and I guess that's all that matters.

No matter what the case is if you are not doing the job you are hired to do you should not be in line for a raise, but if your boss moves you into another job and the boss likes what you are doing then management should entertain giving you more money.
I can see you are a little bit in love with Hicks so why don't you start a Save Hicks campaign.

Freitag

05-21-2010, 11:38 AM

I'm already selling it outside and I've got the vendor who alerted the cops to the car bomb pushing it for me. I will be a millionaire by closing time.

If you'[re a millioniare, you won't need the Winfield ball.

TripleSkeet

05-21-2010, 11:44 AM

Heres what I dont understand...

Why the fuck are there people on this board that have a problem with this guy wanting a raise????

He works hard and feels hes underpaid. YOU arent the one paying him. Why the fuck would it bother you that he wants more money? You dont know how much work he does. Neither do I. So I go by people like Ron, you know, the guy who knows all the ins and outs of his show, who say the guy works his ass off and deserves more money.

Youre not being forced to support him. You dont have to twitter anything. But why would you actually be AGAINST the guy getting a fucking raise? I dont get it. Is it jealousy? Or are you just the type of miserable fucks that hate seeing others do well and need the misery of other people to make you feel good about your own life?

My main reason for WANTING him to get a raise is 2 fold.
1. Ive met him and his wife and they are great people. I hate seeing great people struggle which right now is happening everywhere.
2. He makes the show for me. As much as I love Ron I just dont know how entertaining he could be without someone to actrually conversate with him. While Im sure I would still listen to the show I think the entertainment level would plummet. So thats MY selfish reason.

TripleSkeet

05-21-2010, 11:55 AM

awesome,put in ron and fez show 197,202 and i'll tweet it

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1438/46564873.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/46564873.jpg/)

oPant

05-21-2010, 12:20 PM

conversate .

Not a word.

angrymissy

05-21-2010, 12:44 PM

Not a word.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

Main Entry: con·ver·sate
Pronunciation: \ˈkän-vər-ˌsāt\
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): con·ver·sat·ed; con·ver·sat·ing
Etymology: back-formation from conversation
Date: 1973

: converse 2a

indymike

05-21-2010, 12:59 PM

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

Main Entry: con·ver·sate
Pronunciation: \ˈkän-vər-ˌsāt\
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): con·ver·sat·ed; con·ver·sat·ing
Etymology: back-formation from conversation
Date: 1973

: converse 2a

FACE!! :clap:

oPant

05-21-2010, 12:59 PM

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

Etymology: back-formation from conversation

Not a word, jive, ghetto talk for people who pretend to be smart by trying to use big words.

Furtherman

05-21-2010, 01:14 PM

If you'[re a millioniare, you won't need the Winfield ball.

I will need it to throw around in my giant Olympic-sized backyard pool.

TripleSkeet

05-21-2010, 01:31 PM

Not a word, jive, ghetto talk for people who pretend to be smart by trying to use big words.

Conversate is a big word now?

I stole it from the black kids on the corner who were using it when speaking jive.

Furtherman

05-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Not a word, jive, ghetto talk for people who pretend to be smart by trying to use big words.

Exponentially!

oPant

05-21-2010, 01:36 PM

Conversate is a big word now?

I stole it from the black kids on the corner who were using it when speaking jive.

Ignorant people say conversate to try to sound smart instead of saying talk or speak.

TripleSkeet

05-21-2010, 01:41 PM

Ignorant people say conversate to try to sound smart instead of saying talk or speak.

Sorry for being intelligent. Although I said it because thats the word that fit with the sentence. See Ron TALKS to Fez and Hicks all the time, but Dave is the only one that he has regular CONVERSATIONS with on a day to day basis on the show.

paulisded

05-21-2010, 01:54 PM

My sister's baby-daddy uses it all the time.

red_red_red

05-21-2010, 01:56 PM

i say we all converse
:happy:

spankyfrank

05-21-2010, 01:58 PM

I say we all dance.

Pants off Dance offf!!!!!

red_red_red

05-21-2010, 02:01 PM

I say we all dance.

Pants off Dance offf!!!!!
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/10/29/1256823751498/Pants-Off-Dance-Off-001.jpg

Sinestro

05-21-2010, 02:03 PM

Raise? What Raise. XM Sirius. Ron and Fez. Save East Side Dave from Drowning, Unity now and forever, Softball Sheepy Horn Big Ass Card Ronfez.ent RonVezV3.com It don't make you a bad person Be a mod now Who loves you baby, Twitter or 202 Friends. Spam and more spam The original RFBabies Black Earl Save ESD or not...the choice is up to you. Why do you care? The What show? When? Tonight? Maybe. Angry Missy, FMJeff, Silera, IrishAlkey and Sheepy. What up you all crazy mofos

TjM

05-21-2010, 02:09 PM

TjM

05-21-2010, 02:10 PM

I am done with this, Dave will get his raise you guys will be happy and I guess that's all that matters.

Not if they listen to the abortion that was the sports show

oPant

05-21-2010, 02:14 PM

i say we all converse
:happy:

http://www.boston.com/ae/sidekick/blog/converse.jpg :devil2:

StanUpshaw

05-21-2010, 03:49 PM

Step one: Gather 30 members of the Davepound

Step two: Purchase red wigs and beards

Step three: Choreograph a raunchy "Single Ladies" dance number

Step four: Flash mob in front of Sirius headquarters

Step five: Go viral

Step six: Dave profits

RhinoinMN

05-21-2010, 03:59 PM

It amazes me that people put this much energy into hate.

Hottub

05-21-2010, 04:09 PM

It amazes me that people put this much energy into hate.

This^

zildjian361

05-21-2010, 04:12 PM

I told my Daughter's never use that word. I dont use it.

brettmojo

05-21-2010, 04:21 PM

StanUpshaw

05-21-2010, 04:35 PM

Remember how everyone changed their Twitter avatar to have a green tint in support of the Iranian people? I think all 11,000 members of the Davepound should change their avatars to a reddish tint in support of Dave.

Hottub

05-21-2010, 04:49 PM

Tallman388

05-21-2010, 04:59 PM

I only heard a little piece of it, but I think Ant's plea for Sirius to help Dave out could go a long way to getting Dave some of the money he's looking for. Now that I've had the chance to go back and listen to Dave's tactics, I think he may be better off letting everyone else do the talking. If it works, good for him. If not, I'd hope he understands why.

sailor

05-21-2010, 05:34 PM

indymike

05-21-2010, 05:44 PM

This^

I told my Daughter's never use that word. I dont use it.

This? Thats making things mighty tough on your daughter.

red_red_red

05-22-2010, 04:49 AM

It amazes me that people put this much energy into hate.
they want ppl on the radio to notice them
that's what creeps do when they don't have any real life friends

yep, i'm looking @ 2 cunts in particular
:bye:

Chigworthy

05-22-2010, 05:03 AM

Not a word, jive, ghetto talk for people who pretend to be smart by trying to use big words.

Not proper sentence structure, grammar, or punctuation.

yojimbo7248

05-22-2010, 05:49 AM

they want ppl on the radio to notice them
that's what creeps do when they don't have any real life friends

yep, i'm looking @ 2 cunts in particular
:bye:

Who, Kimberly? Just curious

yojimbo7248

05-22-2010, 05:50 AM

irregardless.

irregardless and whatnot

mikeyboy

05-22-2010, 06:22 AM

irregardless and whatnot

For all intensive purposes

Chigworthy

05-22-2010, 07:56 AM

For all intensive purposes

Basically, yes.

ShowerBench

05-22-2010, 08:57 AM

they want ppl on the radio to notice them
that's what creeps do when they don't have any real life friends

yep, i'm looking @ 2 cunts in particular
:bye:

don't be jealous.

sailor

05-22-2010, 09:21 AM

This? Thats making things mighty tough on your daughter.

Wouldn't get very far in life not saying "this".

Tommy Marbles

05-22-2010, 10:32 AM

I love Davepound on the show. You may have heard when Vos was in studio and he was talking about a comedy show to raise money. The email Ron was referring to was sent by me, I manage Governor's on Long Island. Anybody from LI or even the city on this board or twitter that would be interested in attending such a show should encourage Dave to take us up on the offer.
Maybe if support is shown by the Dogpound Dave will realize that there are other ways to capitalize on his status on the show than trying to bust the suits' balls for a raise.

Tenbatsuzen

05-22-2010, 10:33 AM

Tommy Marbles

05-22-2010, 10:37 AM

I run fundraisers here EVERY week, and its usually awful soccer moms and stuff. Id lolve to get some of the buddays down instead.

StanUpshaw

05-22-2010, 10:41 AM

I run fundraisers here EVERY week, and its usually awful soccer moms and stuff. Id lolve to get some of the buddays down instead.

Hook Dave up with Sal & Richard and let's finally unite Sirius & XM worlds through the power of wacky goofball comedy.

moochcassidy

05-22-2010, 01:42 PM

I run fundraisers here EVERY week, and its usually awful soccer moms and stuff. Id lolve to get some of the buddays down instead.

Sounds like a plan.

Penelope

05-22-2010, 02:00 PM

Tenbatsuzen

05-22-2010, 02:47 PM

Hook Dave up with Sal & Richard and let's finally unite Sirius & XM worlds through the power of wacky goofball comedy.

are... are you suggesting... a unity party?

brettmojo

05-22-2010, 03:01 PM

are... are you suggesting... a unity party?
http://i41.tinypic.com/29cp21c.jpg

Lady Resin

05-22-2010, 03:06 PM

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 04:39 PM

Excellent point. Why not a comedy show to benefit the Stanley McDonald Fund, and a ESD Appreciation night?

Yeah, maybe we can raise enough cash to give the McDonald family something like, oh I don't know, 2,000 dollars a month.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 04:40 PM

Dave is a pain in the ass with no respect for authority. Call his bluff and let him go.

Amen.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 04:42 PM

I have not heard that. I'm not sure where people are getting that. Showerbench is the first to bring it up, I believe.

Ron alluded to it himself when he brought it up. That Dave mentioned he was contirubtuing more to the show then Fez and deserevd the money Fez was making.

Chigworthy

05-22-2010, 05:04 PM

Douche Spam alert

Tenbatsuzen

05-22-2010, 05:16 PM

Yeah, maybe we can raise enough cash to give the McDonald family something like, oh I don't know, 2,000 dollars a month.

We have already established why they can't put the kids in daycare. Unless the 2,000 bucks had no strings attached.

Meataball23

05-22-2010, 06:23 PM

Yeah, maybe we can raise enough cash to give the McDonald family something like, oh I don't know, 2,000 dollars a month.

Clearly you listen to the show and have a personal opinion, but in total honestly do you really believe that ESD should not be paid as if he were an on air talent?

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 07:20 PM

Clearly you listen to the show and have a personal opinion, but in total honestly do you really believe that ESD should not be paid as if he were an on air talent?

Yes I do believe that. He's a producer who keeps elbowing his way in. When he was out with his "heart condition" the show was just as good and Fez was great. If Dave goes they'll be no drop off at all. Ron is the show plain and simple, it's just a matter of who he has to play off of and no matter who it is, he does a great show. And I like Dave, don't get me wrong, but this nonsense that he deserves a six figure salary is garbage. He's been given an opportunity--and milked it with his Amazon wish list for listeners to buy him gifts, listener baby showers, money from his rich parents, now "fund raisers for his salary"--this guy has (as far as career opportunities) been handed the world on a silver platter and he bitches and moans constantly. We've all seen his "twideos" all heard him talk. He has a house, flat screen TVs, huge DVD and Bule Ray collections, Nintendo Wii, iPhone. It doesn't seem like he's starving.

Call his bluff. Keep his salary the same and take away that Godawful "Special Delivery".

I guarantee he's still here after the break.

biozombie

05-22-2010, 07:23 PM

Yes I do believe that. He's a producer who keeps elbowing his way in. When he was out with his "heart condition" the show was just as good and Fez was great. If Dave goes they'll be no drop off at all. Ron is the show plain and simple, it's just a matter of who he has to play off of and no matter who it is, he does a great show. And I like Dave, don't get me wrong, but this nonsense that he deserves a six figure salary is garbage. He's been given an opportunity--and milked it with his Amazon wish list for listeners to buy him gifts, listener baby showers, money from his rich parents, now "fund raisers for his salary"--this guy has (as far as career opportunities) been handed the world on a silver platter and he bitches and moans constantly. We've all seen his "twideos" all heard him talk. He has a house, flat screen TVs, huge DVD and Bule Ray collections, iPhone. It doesn't seem like he's starving.

Call his bluff. Keep his salary the same and take away that Godawful "Special Delivery".

I guarantee he's still here after the break.

You're out of your fucking mind.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 07:25 PM

We have already established why they can't put the kids in daycare. Unless the 2,000 bucks had no strings attached.

Is Beanie retired? I'm sure Fez would pay Beanie the 2 grand to watch the kids. And let his wife get a job.

And for the record I feel like a dick commenting on other people's child rearing, but this dude keeps bringing it up on a show that's the only reason I'm forking over subscritpion money to Sirius/XM to listen to and it is the discussion here, so I'll give my two cents on this.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 07:26 PM

You're out of your fucking mind.

Good come back. You must've captained your high school's debate team, Lincoln.

Caseyelan

05-22-2010, 07:36 PM

He has a house, flat screen TVs, huge DVD and Bule Ray collections, Nintendo Wii, iPhone.

WTF is a bule ray? Sounds awesome.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 07:39 PM

WTF is a bule ray? Sounds awesome.

You got me. Typo. My point is now invalid.

Sorry.

Pay the guy 1 million a year.

biozombie

05-22-2010, 07:40 PM

Good come back. You must've captained your high school's debate team, Lincoln.

I have never once heard Dave storm in & complain about anything, maybe it happened during a segment I missed at lunch, but I seriously doubt it. Dave complains about shit all of the time, but only after being asked by Ron. It's really not that complicated.

If my high school had a debate team, I never heard about it.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 07:45 PM

I have never once heard Dave storm in & complain about anything, maybe it happened during during a segment I missed during lunch, but I seriously doubt it. Dave complains about shit all of the time, but only after being asked by Ron. It's really not that complicated.

If my high school had a debate team, I never heard about it.

Isn't this whole thread a result of him complaining on the air?

biozombie

05-22-2010, 07:46 PM

Isn't this whole thread a result of him complaining on the air?

Good come back, you must have been president of your high school's debate team, whatever the fuck that is.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 07:49 PM

Good come back, you must have been president of your high school's debate team, whatever the fuck that is.

Actually that was a comeback. A retort presenting a theory that disputed your point...as opposed to me dismissing your opinion by saying, "you're out of your fucking mind."

You'll catch on.

Dirtbag

05-22-2010, 07:54 PM

Yes I do believe that. He's a producer who keeps elbowing his way in.
If Ron didn't want him on the air, he wouldn't be on the air.

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 08:06 PM

If Ron didn't want him on the air, he wouldn't be on the air.

I didn't say Ron didn't want him on the air. I said he elbows his way in. There's a difference.

biozombie

05-22-2010, 08:08 PM

I didn't say Ron didn't want him on the air. I said he elbows his way in. There's a difference.

Ron saying "Dave, what's going on with you?" is elbowing in?

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 08:10 PM

Ron saying "Dave, what's going on with you?" is elbowing in?

You're right. He says the same thing to Hicks too. Let's get him a six figure salary as well since the company is just overflowing with cash according to every financial report I've read. Everyone who contributes on air show make what the hosts make. You callers should set your own Amazon wish lists to get in on this.

Chigworthy

05-22-2010, 08:12 PM

You're right. He says the same thing to Hicks too. Let's get him a six figure salary as well since the company is just overflowing with cash according to every financial report I've read. Everyone who contributes on air show make what the hosts make. You callers should set your own Amazon wish lists to get in on this.

Your perception of reality is strange.

Caseyelan

05-22-2010, 08:14 PM

You got me. Typo. My point is now invalid.

Sorry.

Pay the guy 1 million a year.

LOCK IT UP!

biozombie

05-22-2010, 08:17 PM

Who said six figures, besides you? Do you have any idea what he makes now? Wanna fill the rest of us in?

disgruntledsherpa

05-22-2010, 08:25 PM

Who said six figures, besides you? Do you have any idea what he makes now? Wanna fill the rest of us in?

Six figures was mentioned on the air.

Caseyelan

05-22-2010, 08:29 PM

Six figures was mentioned on the air.
as a joke?

Furtherman

05-22-2010, 08:58 PM

I wish my phone had locking power.

biozombie

05-22-2010, 08:58 PM

Six figures was mentioned on the air.

Well, if we're talking about "on the air" I'm pretty sure it was hinted at on Special Delivery a while ago that his salary is somewhere in the $20 to $30K range, but for all I know, I dreamed that up in some sort of stupor....
I just ran out of booze, then I forgot what the fuck I was even typing about, then I backtracked & saw you've been trolling since at least page 5. You got me, you got me good. Fuck. Good luck with that whole "being gay & trying to prevent a man from getting a deserved raise" thing you've got going on there, I hope it works out for ya.

Sue_Bender

05-22-2010, 09:14 PM

*Making fart noise with mouth*

Suspect Chin

05-22-2010, 09:44 PM

If Dave goes they'll be no drop off at all. Ron is the show plain and simple, it's just a matter of who he has to play off of and no matter who it is, he does a great show.

Ron saying "Dave, what's going on with you?" is elbowing in?

You're right. He says the same thing to Hicks too.

I agree, Ron is the majority of the show, but as you mentioned, he needs people to make fun of and Dave fits that mold perfectly and also provides some interesting commentary on music, movies, and sports; the main topics on the show. Could you imagine a serious conversation about sports, music, movies, relationships, etc. without Dave in the room? Dave is the perfect 3rd mic because Ron can still crush him sometimes, and use him for his knowledge sometimes if the conversation calls for it. Hicks runs the back room perfectly and gets in some wonderful one liners every once in a while. Fez still contributes in several ways, fodder for Ron to make fun of, and psychological insight into a deranged mind I think we all see ourselves in, at least a little bit. The show is perfect. Just pay Dave a little extra money so he doesn't leave, and keep up the good work.

CardiffGiant

05-22-2010, 09:46 PM

I feel almost ashamed to admit it but I actually signed up for twitter just now as a result of Dave's situation. I still think it's an overhyped technology though but if it can help the guy why not do it.

Meataball23

05-22-2010, 10:56 PM

Im still wildly confused as to what this debate is actually about. Love or hate ESD its impossible to claim that hes not more than just a producer.

As far as the sherpas love for Fez goes...its certainly an interesting interpretation. I already posted this about finance, but if I covered for my boss's desk for over a year Id like to at least get a taste of a pay increase for it. Obviously not his whole salary and title but...if I did all the work Id like to get money for it.

Chigworthy

05-23-2010, 05:58 AM

Six figures was mentioned on the air.

You should be the spokesman for the Rube's Club Card, because you're Rubey Rubalas.

spankyfrank

05-23-2010, 09:13 AM

This whole Save Dave thing really is lost on me.

I believe Dave is funny as hell and he absolutely deserves his own show and has proven that he can handle himself in many different types of radio situations. But to go on the air and lobby for money is incredibly tacky. It is also something that you just shouldn't do.

Now it is common practice for radio hosts to complain on the air to get things that they want and entice their listeners to help them out if they can. However most of the time it isn't for their own financial gain. For example Opie and Anthony are notorious complainers, however I can't recollect a time when they wanted more money for themselves. It's always for some perk or for something to help the show out in some way.

Dave is looking for a better job and/or a raise which he absolutely deserves but is going about it in the worst way possible. Bringing it up on the air is awful and won't help him at all. It should be done behind closed doors.

Ron said it best when he said you have to play the game.

Theory B:
If it's a bit like the midnight rider I'll never stop laughing at you people for signing up on twitter :laugh: :tongue:

Dirtbag

05-23-2010, 09:26 AM

Now it is common practice for radio hosts to complain on the air to get things that they want and entice their listeners to help them out if they can. However most of the time it isn't for their own financial gain. For example Opie and Anthony are notorious complainers, however I can't recollect a time when they wanted more money for themselves. It's always for some perk or for something to help the show out in some way.

Opie and Anthony are millionaires and have been for a decade. Nobody is going to get behind millionaires asking for more money, even if they do deserve a bigger cut from their billionaire bosses. If this thread is to be believed, Dave is making in the neighborhood of 30k and is trying to take care of two children, one of whom is ill. Its not the same thing.

disneyspy

05-23-2010, 09:39 AM

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1438/46564873.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/46564873.jpg/)

twittereded! shit,just realized i forgot tot put in the word sirius must do again,sorry to all my followers

ShowerBench

05-23-2010, 02:02 PM

I agree, Ron is the majority of the show, but as you mentioned, he needs people to make fun of and Dave fits that mold perfectly and also provides some interesting commentary on music, movies, and sports; the main topics on the show. Could you imagine a serious conversation about sports, music, movies, relationships, etc. without Dave in the room? Dave is the perfect 3rd mic because Ron can still crush him sometimes, and use him for his knowledge sometimes if the conversation calls for it. Hicks runs the back room perfectly and gets in some wonderful one liners every once in a while. Fez still contributes in several ways, fodder for Ron to make fun of, and psychological insight into a deranged mind I think we all see ourselves in, at least a little bit. The show is perfect. Just pay Dave a little extra money so he doesn't leave, and keep up the good work.

Hicks was great on the air when Dave was out. I was surprised that he was able to contribute as substantively as he did. He was hilarious and his contribution wasn't limited to one-liners.

It's true that Dave is "more than a producer" now but it's a matter of opinion as to whether that "more" enhances the show or detracts from it. For me, there is a critical mass of Dave (on Ron and Fez), beyond which he grates. So "more" doesn't always mean "more valuable."

As a reined-in 3rd mic and stuntboy, I think he's great and worth more of Sirius's money than any number of other personalities who are likely paid more. He would be even more valuable as a host of a solo sports call-in show, judging from his performance last week (Special Delivery sucks).

Dan 'Hampton

05-23-2010, 02:29 PM

You're insane much like Dave's sports show. He's great on SD. Thats where his future lies.

TripleSkeet

05-23-2010, 03:05 PM

You're out of your fucking mind.

No hes not. He, along with a few others around here, have a pretty wide interpretation of the word "great".

Tenbatsuzen

05-23-2010, 03:08 PM

Now it is common practice for radio hosts to complain on the air to get things that they want and entice their listeners to help them out if they can. However most of the time it isn't for their own financial gain. For example Opie and Anthony are notorious complainers, however I can't recollect a time when they wanted more money for themselves. It's always for some perk or for something to help the show out in some way.

Two words: Syndication Now.

You may not remember, but Opie and ANthony trying to get syndicated was a major component of their show in 1999-2000, and it was all about getting paid.

Dan 'Hampton

05-23-2010, 03:11 PM

Can you blame them for that?

Tenbatsuzen

05-23-2010, 03:14 PM

Can you blame them for that?

Not at all. They deserved to get paid.

Just like Dave.

I'm just surprised, really, of so many people who are upset that Dave gets paid with money they have nothing to do with.

I mean, I'm just wondering what people seriously think will happen to the quality of the show once Dave is gone.

It's basically going to be Ron talking to himself with occasional sniffles from across the board.

Dan 'Hampton

05-23-2010, 03:18 PM

spankyfrank

05-23-2010, 03:19 PM

Two words: Syndication Now.

You may not remember, but Opie and ANthony trying to get syndicated was a major component of their show in 1999-2000, and it was all about getting paid.

While that is a valid point the difference between that and Dave is that opant were looking to better their show and be able to reach more audiences and yes of course to make more money.

I don't see how Dave lobbying for a raise helps the Ron and Fez show as a whole.

Tenbatsuzen

05-23-2010, 03:33 PM

I want Dave to get paid what he's worth. Opie often mentions in disgust that Sirius doesn't pay guys like Sam and Dave what they're worth. But hey they have no problem hiring celebs to "program" an hour once a month. You know the channels they try to sell you on when you want to quit.

That's the insanity of SiriusXM that I've never been able to get.

I understand getting sports. I know that's expensive. But I've never understood the Oprah or Rosie O'Donnell deals.

epo

05-23-2010, 03:33 PM

While that is a valid point the difference between that and Dave is that opant were looking to better their show and be able to reach more audiences and yes of course to make more money.

I don't see how Dave lobbying for a raise helps the Ron and Fez show as a whole.

I'll say that I could give two shits what Sirius pays Dave. Its simply not my problem.

However, listening to Dave mention money as a topic on the show is not my idea of good radio. I have my own set of daily issues and don't find the topic of "Dave's Pay" to be engaging as a listener. In fact to me, its exactly what I hate about radio.

Dan 'Hampton

05-23-2010, 03:34 PM

It's brought up a ton you must hate that.

Tenbatsuzen

05-23-2010, 03:36 PM

I'll say that I could give two shits what Sirius pays Dave. Its simply not my problem.

However, listening to Dave mention money as a topic on the show is not my idea of good radio. I have my own set of daily issues and don't find the topic of "Dave's Pay" to be engaging as a listener. In fact to me, its exactly what I hate about radio.

thing is - it hasn't been discussed that much.

We've discussed it here.... but not that much on the show.

Dave's pay and his shenanigans, to me, are better than Fez crying, which we've heard a lot more of.

ShowerBench

05-23-2010, 03:36 PM

I mean, I'm just wondering what people seriously think will happen to the quality of the show once Dave is gone.

It's basically going to be Ron talking to himself with occasional sniffles from across the board.

The most recent experiment in that regard was just weeks ago when Dave was out for a few days. The show was excellent. Ron and Fez plus Pepper, HTG, and the others who showed up were funny and interesting. Your comment assumes there is no third mic or guest(s) or that Fez would not improve, neither of which is at all likely.

epo

05-23-2010, 03:42 PM

thing is - it hasn't been discussed that much.

We've discussed it here.... but not that much on the show.

Dave's pay and his shenanigans, to me, are better than Fez crying, which we've heard a lot more of.

Quite frankly I hate Fez crying too.

Simply put; as a radio listener the problems of the people on the mic are not my problem. I'm listening to be entertained/informed, not to fix your problems.

Tenbatsuzen

05-23-2010, 03:42 PM

The most recent experiment in that regard was just weeks ago when Dave was out for a few days. The show was excellent. Ron and Fez plus Pepper, HTG, and the others who showed up were funny and interesting. Your comment assumes there is no third mic or guest(s) or that Fez would not improve, neither of which is at all likely.

Valid point, I also think Fez did sound good in those days while Fez was out.

The question is, can Fez sustain that?

At this point... I don't think so.

I just don't understand why someone who has done a lot to help the show shouldn't get a better life for themselves with money that isn't theirs.

epo

05-23-2010, 03:46 PM

Valid point, I also think Fez did sound good in those days while Fez was out.

The question is, can Fez sustain that?

At this point... I don't think so.

I just don't understand why someone who has done a lot to help the show shouldn't get a better life for themselves with money that isn't theirs.

While those are good questions, those are also questions that you and I cannot control.

kdubya

05-23-2010, 04:19 PM

Simply put; as a radio listener the problems of the people on the mic are not my problem. I'm listening to be entertained/informed, not to fix your problems.

I have to agree, same as when Opie and Anthony used to complain about losing stations when they were still on FM.

Dan 'Hampton

05-23-2010, 04:20 PM

I don't want to hear about your problems either. Shut it!

JPMNICK

05-23-2010, 04:33 PM

Quite frankly I hate Fez crying too.

Simply put; as a radio listener the problems of the people on the mic are not my problem. I'm listening to be entertained/informed, not to fix your problems.

i disagree with this (and i HATE the entire Fez thing going on the past few years) but I will cite Billy Staples and his on again off again drinking as GREAT radio. they turned something sad and personal into something funny and touching at times.

TripleSkeet

05-23-2010, 04:47 PM

While that is a valid point the difference between that and Dave is that opant were looking to better their show and be able to reach more audiences and yes of course to make more money.

I don't see how Dave lobbying for a raise helps the Ron and Fez show as a whole.

I think its more about not huritng the show, then helping it. If cant get paid enough to take care of his family, he has to leave and get a better job. And THAT, will hurt the show.

As far as hearing peoples problems...um...its 2010. People all over the fucking country are losing their honmes, their jobs, their life savings. Most people are not happy. When you have guys whose job it is to talk about life subject 4-5 hours a day, you are going to hear these things. They are going to talk about their problems. Its part of the show. Its always been that way. Even Howard used to bring up his personal problems all the time on the air.

Get over it. These guys may be entertainers but they arent your own personal fucking clowns sent here to cheer you up every day. Its a talk show. Sometimes they are gonna talk about stuff you have no interest in. Like when they talk about music. Its a subject I have zero interest in yet I accept it as part of the show. Their personal lives and problems are going to be topics. Crying about it wont change that.

spankyfrank

05-23-2010, 07:45 PM

I think its more about not huritng the show, then helping it. If cant get paid enough to take care of his family, he has to leave and get a better job. And THAT, will hurt the show.

So in order for the show to not get hurt we as listeners should help him lobby for a raise and/or a better job?

If Dave needs to leave for a better job then so be it. I'm not gonna sit here and worry whether hes on the Ron and Fez show or not. there have been many incarnations of producers and third mics. This too shall pass.

disgruntledsherpa

05-23-2010, 08:13 PM

Well, if we're talking about "on the air" I'm pretty sure it was hinted at on Special Delivery a while ago that his salary is somewhere in the $20 to $30K range, but for all I know, I dreamed that up in some sort of stupor....
I just ran out of booze, then I forgot what the fuck I was even typing about, then I backtracked & saw you've been trolling since at least page 5. You got me, you got me good. Fuck. Good luck with that whole "being gay & trying to prevent a man from getting a deserved raise" thing you've got going on there, I hope it works out for ya.

30 - 40 K is probably exactly what he deserves. Just from a third party view who has some insight on what producers/3rd mics make in the business. Not that I'm an absolute expert, but in radio, TV, films. There's a HUGE gap between the best people and the secondary people. So, if Dav'es making 30 K a year I don't know what he's complaining about.

disgruntledsherpa

05-23-2010, 08:58 PM

So in order for the show to not get hurt we as listeners should help him lobby for a raise and/or a better job?

If Dave needs to leave for a better job then so be it. I'm not gonna sit here and worry whether hes on the Ron and Fez show or not. there have been many incarnations of producers and third mics. This too shall pass.

Well said.

I love Dave on the show. I think what he does is great. But it is the Ron and Fez Show. So, if/when Dave leaves I'm sure Hicks will pick up the third mic duties just fine and the show will go on...possibly with a legitimately stronger, more confident Fez.

So be it.

JPMNICK

05-23-2010, 09:17 PM

So in order for the show to not get hurt we as listeners should help him lobby for a raise and/or a better job?

If Dave needs to leave for a better job then so be it. I'm not gonna sit here and worry whether hes on the Ron and Fez show or not. there have been many incarnations of producers and third mics. This too shall pass.

difference was back then you had a very strong fez.

fez used to talk way more then ron even. listen to some 2001 and 2002 shows, fez was always starting topics, in with jokes, talking to people, running down producers.

he now literally cant finish a though without a stutter. it is really sad, i love fez but i am not disillusion enough to think he is strong enough right now to be able to take the weight of the show back onto himself

TripleSkeet

05-23-2010, 10:17 PM

Well said.

I love Dave on the show. I think what he does is great. But it is the Ron and Fez Show. So, if/when Dave leaves I'm sure Hicks will pick up the third mic duties just fine and the show will go on...possibly with a legitimately stronger, more confident Fez.

So be it.

Grow the fuck up. It hasnt been the Ron and Fez Show in over 2 years. I call in twice a week and right now Im neck and neck with Fez for mic time.

So in order for the show to not get hurt we as listeners should help him lobby for a raise and/or a better job?

No you as listeners dont have to lobby for him to get better pay. What was said, as well as what this threads about, is that if you WANT to try and help Dave, heres how. If you dont wanna help him then you can go fuck off and discuss your viewpoint in some other thread.

indymike

05-24-2010, 04:40 AM

I don't see how Dave lobbying for a raise helps the Ron and Fez show as a whole.

Listen and see who brings up the money thing next time - I bet it won't be (and hasn't been) Dave.

oPant

05-24-2010, 05:53 AM

Valid point, I also think Fez did sound good in those days while Fez was out.

.

Freudian slip?

indymike

05-24-2010, 08:16 AM

So for those dropping by the thread for the first time....

Support Dave,

Follow: http://twitter.com/DavePound and http://twitter.com/EastSideDave

and when you tweet make sure to include #savedave #davepound #sirius #siriusXM if possible!

Let the powers that be know you think Dave deserves to get a raise after 4 years working on the R&F show.

oPant

05-24-2010, 08:26 AM

TripleSkeet

05-24-2010, 08:53 AM

The problems is that Dave likes being there are has nowhere else to go. If he had another offer it would be leverage.

If Sirius tells him that they don't have the money in the budget he is screwed. It's all a numbers game. Sirius knows they are not going to lose a substantial number of listeners if he leaves.

The show won't die without him, they will just find another shmuck willing to work for free or almost free.

All he can do is say that he only wants to produce and not be on the air and see what happens to the show without him, if he can prove that he is valuable and needed he will get his raise.

I agree with the first half, that if he had other offers it would help give him some leverage.

But as far as replacing him, I see Sirius either bringing in some intern to be Hicks assistant or not hiring anyone. Thats the corporate way of saving money. Lose an employee, tell the others to pick up the slack, but dont pay them extra money for extra work.

If they had just gave Dave and Hicks the raises they shouldve gotten when Earl left and they started doing his work this whole problem wouldve been solved.

Furtherman

05-24-2010, 09:04 AM

...possibly with a legitimately stronger, more confident Fez.

So be it.

I love Fez too, but I have no idea what show you are listening too thinking that would happen.

StanUpshaw

05-24-2010, 09:08 AM

How is it that after four years experience he's in a worse negotiation position than when he first got hired? Didn't he have a job at The Rat, an offer from Sirius AND an opening at XM?

UnknownPD

05-24-2010, 09:18 AM

How is it that after four years experience he's in a worse negotiation position than when he first got hired? Didn't he have a job at The Rat, an offer from Sirius AND an opening at XM?

Ummm...in case you haven't noticed the world has changed a little in the last four years

spankyfrank

05-24-2010, 09:28 AM

No you as listeners dont have to lobby for him to get better pay. What was said, as well as what this threads about, is that if you WANT to try and help Dave, heres how. If you dont wanna help him then you can go fuck off and discuss your viewpoint in some other thread.

Brother I was following your logic. No need to get angry. I also said in my post that I support Dave and I believe he deserves more. I just feel he is going about it the wrong way bringing it up on air and getting the listeners to help him.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 09:51 AM

indymike

05-24-2010, 10:06 AM

I just feel he is going about it the wrong way bringing it up on air and getting the listeners to help him.

Ron brings it up - not Dave. Is Dave supposed to ignore Ron or go with it since Ron obviously wants it brought up on air?

spankyfrank

05-24-2010, 10:07 AM

I did my part and tweeted a tasteful pro-Dave statement with all the appropriate # people listed, but I'm about done with this bit for 2 reasons:

1. No one ACTUALLY negotiates in this way, it's an on air bit

2. Dave isn't so fucking retarded that he'd leave a job that pays SOMETHING to sit at home and make NOTHING.

my thoughts exactly, although i really hope we get the midnight rider back, i love that guy :thumbup:

spankyfrank

05-24-2010, 10:09 AM

Ron brings it up - not Dave. Is Dave supposed to ignore Ron or go with it since Ron obviously wants it brought up on air?

fair enough then its a bit then. but even if its not it doesn't make it right whoever brings it up.

mikeyboy

05-24-2010, 10:11 AM

I did my part and tweeted a tasteful pro-Dave statement with all the appropriate # people listed, but I'm about done with this bit for 2 reasons:

1. No one ACTUALLY negotiates in this way, it's an on air bit

2. Dave isn't so fucking retarded that he'd leave a job that pays SOMETHING to sit at home and make NOTHING.
He's already said he has two potential jobs that pay more -- neither in radio. He's made it clear that he can't raise his family on what he makes from Sirius, so he will be forced to take a job outside of radio unless Sirius is willing to pay him more.

oPant

05-24-2010, 10:56 AM

I don't think it's a bit, if it was they would have spent more time on it. I haven't heard recent shows but one time the subject was brought up and dropped in what seemed like a minute.

You're confusing good radio with a bit. I hate those people who call everything that they don't like or care about a bit.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 11:07 AM

He's already said he has two potential jobs that pay more -- neither in radio. He's made it clear that he can't raise his family on what he makes from Sirius, so he will be forced to take a job outside of radio unless Sirius is willing to pay him more.

Then what the fuck is he still doing traveling to NYC everyday? Holy shit, it's just business, you give your notice and take the better job. He doesn't have time to play with, he has children and a wife now.

Now I think he's just being selfish. He wants the job that keeps him in the spotlight instead of doing what's right for him family.

And what you said still didn't address his awful negotiating tactics. Is that how an adult approaches trying to keep his dream job while getting paid the money he needs? Screaming like his old stunt boy character at the people he is asking for help? I think not.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 11:07 AM

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 11:08 AM

Ron brings it up - not Dave. Is Dave supposed to ignore Ron or go with it since Ron obviously wants it brought up on air?

Ron goes to each show member each day and asks them what's up. Dave chooses to talk about this.

Dell

05-24-2010, 11:13 AM

it's easy to dump on a lot of Dave's decisions (as presented on the air, anyway), but his approach with this one seems pretty normal to me...most people would try everything possible to continue working their dream job before giving it up...and like most people, Dave has said he will give up his dream job if unable to support his family...

Penelope

05-24-2010, 11:32 AM

Now I think he's just being selfish. He wants the job that keeps him in the spotlight instead of doing what's right for him family.

Even if he works at a gas station I'll still be a huge fan. I love him so much (in a non sexual way, no offense Casey)
:wub: davepound for life

indymike

05-24-2010, 12:05 PM

Ron goes to each show member each day and asks them what's up. Dave chooses to talk about this.

Wrong.

Listen to the replay. Ron drops a 'save dave' reference and then asks Dave about it. Ron brings it up every time.

Dave chooses to discuss what Ron wants to discuss - Ron says jump and Dave jumps - thats how it is supposed to work. Just don't say Dave is the one bringing the topic up. Its been Ron for at least the last week.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 12:12 PM

Wrong.

Listen to the replay. Ron drops a 'save dave' reference and then asks Dave about it. Ron brings it up every time.

Dave chooses to discuss what Ron wants to discuss - Ron says jump and Dave jumps - thats how it is supposed to work. Just don't say Dave is the one bringing the topic up. Its been Ron for at least the last week.

Ron brings up stuff going on with 202friends, this is something going on. Yes, sometimes Ron brings it up but don't act like Dave is sitting there politely waiting to bring it up, he talks about it constantly.

oPant

05-24-2010, 12:14 PM

Wrong.

Listen to the replay. Ron drops a 'save dave' reference and then asks Dave about it. Ron brings it up every time.

Dave chooses to discuss what Ron wants to discuss - Ron says jump and Dave jumps - thats how it is supposed to work. Just don't say Dave is the one bringing the topic up. Its been Ron for at least the last week.

Exactly it's Ron's show when he doesn't want to talk about it all he has to do is move on or take a call on another subject. I'm sure Ron wants Dave to stay, but there is not much he can do.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 12:14 PM

Even if he works at a gas station I'll still be a huge fan. I love him so much (in a non sexual way, no offense Casey)
:wub: davepound for life

I'm a Dave fan too, just not liking how he's trying to get a raise from him bosses.

Here's the mothefucking disclaimer for you cocksuckers who can't read:

IF DAVE IS NEGOTIATING EXACTLY LIKE HE SAYS HE IS ON THE AIR

he is going about it the wrong way, completely. No one gets a raise because they think they deserve it, they need to prove it. I hope the Twitter people can add up to a respectable number he can use in his negotiations, but depending on the internet isn't that bright if you ask me.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 12:15 PM

Exactly it's Ron's show when he doesn't want to talk about it all he has to do is move on or take a call on another subject. I'm sure Ron wants and needs Dave to stay, but there is not much he can do.

If Ron from the Ron and Fez show doesn't have some sway then the whole show is fucking doomed.

CountryBob

05-24-2010, 12:20 PM

I'm a Dave fan too, just not liking how he's trying to get a raise from him bosses.

Here's the mothefucking disclaimer for you cocksuckers who can't read:

IF DAVE IS NEGOTIATING EXACTLY LIKE HE SAYS HE IS ON THE AIR

he is going about it the wrong way, completely. No one gets a raise because they think they deserve it, they need to prove it. I hope the Twitter people can add up to a respectable number he can use in his negotiations, but depending on the internet isn't that bright if you ask me.

Why so angry?

brettmojo

05-24-2010, 12:20 PM

TjM

05-24-2010, 12:21 PM

I wouldn't worry Ron will shitcan Fez and you will all get your precious Ron and Dave show. Dave will have successfully forced Fez out

StanUpshaw

05-24-2010, 12:27 PM

How do you figure? Ron has no power at Sirius. He can choose to not sign a new contract, but he can't fire Fez, nor can he pay Dave.

TjM

05-24-2010, 12:38 PM

How do you figure? Ron has no power at Sirius. He can choose to not sign a new contract, but he can't fire Fez, nor can he pay Dave.

Because Fez can't string two fucking words together without stuttering. Dave can go with the flow. Fez is out Dave is in. Viva la Ginger!

StanUpshaw

05-24-2010, 12:50 PM

Because Fez can't string two fucking words together without stuttering. Dave can go with the flow. Fez is out Dave is in. Viva la Ginger!

Yes, that's why Ron should fire Fez, but you're still disregarding the fact that he cannot fire Fez.

indymike

05-24-2010, 12:53 PM

Ron brings up stuff going on with 202friends, this is something going on. Yes, sometimes Ron brings it up but don't act like Dave is sitting there politely waiting to bring it up, he talks about it constantly.

Ron suggested Dave start a campaign on twitter - so Dave DID at Ron's suggestion.

I am 100% sure Dave is not sitting there waiting for Ron to bring it up - I suspect he dreads it but unless he wants to be like, say, Earl and get ticked off on air, perhaps throw a mic and stomp off, or be like Fez and break down, Dave goes along with Ron and talks, sometimes embellishing things I think.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 01:18 PM

Why so angry?

Because anyone who isn't 100% Pro Dave or is Pro Fez is seen as a "hater" and all this useless bullshit starts spewing about "not getting the show" and "not being a real fan."

I've been a real fan of this show for a long time, go fuck your mother sideways you cunts.

sailor

05-24-2010, 01:59 PM

Because anyone who isn't 100% Pro Dave or is Pro Fez is seen as a "hater" and all this useless bullshit starts spewing about "not getting the show" and "not being a real fan."

I've been a real fan of this show for a long time, go fuck your mother sideways you cunts.

Uncalled for. Let's play nice, kids.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 02:01 PM

Very called for, and I will play as nice as other play with me.

Learn it, live it, love it. Or don't, no sweat off my sack.

Perrynoid On Demand

05-24-2010, 02:32 PM

Give the kid a raise. He got on CNN - gotta be worth something....right? no?
oh well... I tried

Tenbatsuzen

05-24-2010, 02:34 PM

He's already said he has two potential jobs that pay more -- neither in radio. He's made it clear that he can't raise his family on what he makes from Sirius, so he will be forced to take a job outside of radio unless Sirius is willing to pay him more.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yM3iLfKlmag/SgN3RW0oH6I/AAAAAAAAADY/U_bN8cOoF2o/s320/Guy.with.Head.on.Desk.jpg

Pestz4Evah

05-24-2010, 02:53 PM

Ron suggested Dave start a campaign on twitter - so Dave DID at Ron's suggestion.

I am 100% sure Dave is not sitting there waiting for Ron to bring it up - I suspect he dreads it but unless he wants to be like, say, Earl and get ticked off on air, perhaps throw a mic and stomp off, or be like Fez and break down, Dave goes along with Ron and talks, sometimes embellishing things I think.

Yes.

And a couple of times, Dave even said he didn't want to do it on the air.

sailor

05-24-2010, 02:58 PM

Then what the fuck is he still doing traveling to NYC everyday? Holy shit, it's just business, you give your notice and take the better job. He doesn't have time to play with, he has children and a wife now.

Now I think he's just being selfish. He wants the job that keeps him in the spotlight instead of doing what's right for him family.

And what you said still didn't address his awful negotiating tactics. Is that how an adult approaches trying to keep his dream job while getting paid the money he needs? Screaming like his old stunt boy character at the people he is asking for help? I think not.

Even if he works at a gas station I'll still be a huge fan. I love him so much (in a non sexual way, no offense Casey)
:wub: davepound for life

I'm a Dave fan too, just not liking how he's trying to get a raise from him bosses.

Here's the mothefucking disclaimer for you cocksuckers who can't read:

IF DAVE IS NEGOTIATING EXACTLY LIKE HE SAYS HE IS ON THE AIR

he is going about it the wrong way, completely. No one gets a raise because they think they deserve it, they need to prove it. I hope the Twitter people can add up to a respectable number he can use in his negotiations, but depending on the internet isn't that bright if you ask me.

Why so angry?

Because anyone who isn't 100% Pro Dave or is Pro Fez is seen as a "hater" and all this useless bullshit starts spewing about "not getting the show" and "not being a real fan."

I've been a real fan of this show for a long time, go fuck your mother sideways you cunts.

Uncalled for. Let's play nice, kids.

Very called for, and I will play as nice as other play with me.

Learn it, live it, love it. Or don't, no sweat off my sack.

the two responses that you lashed out at were civil.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 03:51 PM

the two responses that you lashed out at were civil.

What's your point?

sailor

05-24-2010, 05:09 PM

What's your point?

your being a jerk was unprovoked, despite your claim to the contrary.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 05:45 PM

And where did multi quoting get you?

Penelope

05-24-2010, 05:47 PM

Moe didn't hurt my feelings. :wub: Death Metal Moe.

Death Metal Moe

05-24-2010, 05:48 PM

Moe didn't hurt my feelings. :wub: Death Metal Moe.

I wasn't trying to hurt anyone specific's feelings anyway. My angry posts were more of a general statement to people who think they "get" the show more than others.

underdog

05-24-2010, 07:04 PM

StanUpshaw

05-24-2010, 07:06 PM

Stop being such a hater.

Don't pay attention to that rube, the show goes over his head.

indymike

05-24-2010, 07:23 PM

Meataball23

05-24-2010, 07:38 PM

What other gigs does he have lined up that would make more money?

As someone who works in a soul crushing office job I certainly hope hes not contemplating that...but if his salary is actually 30k a year then he needs a major bump.

ESD is a major contributor to the best show on radio. He flatly needs to get paid like hes on air talent. Fez needs to bust out some of those confederate dollars hes hiding to keep ESD stay on the show. Saving for a rainy day?? Its pouring now.

TripleSkeet

05-24-2010, 10:54 PM

From when this started I thought it was a mixture of bit and reality. It sounded like Dave exhausted very avenue he took with the bosses trying to get a raise and went to Ron for help. Then all the Twitter madness happened.

I believed that during negotiations questions were asked on basically how they could prove to the higher ups just how valuable Dave was to the Ron and Fez show, and maybe the whole Twitter numbers was an idea to do just that. I mean its been talked about and promoted not just by Ron, but by O & A and Jimmy as well. When was the last time you heard of that happening for a producer?

Using social networks to market yourself or your company is still a pretty new concept that corporate companies are starting to show interest in. Maybe this was a test and the numbers will help aleviate any doubts they might have in paying Dave more money.

I dont know. Its all speculation on my part it just seems more like an organized effort to prove Daves value then a desperate rally cry to me.

sailor

05-25-2010, 02:50 AM

And where did multi quoting get you?

it obviously proved my point. where are your nonsensical questions getting you?

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 06:18 AM

it obviously proved my point. where are your nonsensical questions getting you?

You had a point?

disneyspy

05-25-2010, 06:42 AM

Just a friendly reminder................

Please support Dave,

Follow: http://twitter.com/DavePound and http://twitter.com/EastSideDave

and when you tweet make sure to include #savedave #davepound #sirius #siriusXM if possible!

Let the powers that be know you appreciate Dave's contribution to the Ron and Fez show and that you think he deserves to earn at least as much as he might as a manager @ Costco!

adding the # is the worst thing ever,the suits at sirius will see that and look at it as the poor stunt it has become. if people had been more real with their tweets it wouldve been much more effective-former IE guy w the diz-and ive been embarrased watching this campaign go down the shitter cuz i like dave but this is hurting more than helping now

CountryBob

05-25-2010, 07:19 AM

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 08:27 AM

adding the # is the worst thing ever,the suits at sirius will see that and look at it as the poor stunt it has become. if people had been more real with their tweets it wouldve been much more effective-former IE guy w the diz-and ive been embarrased watching this campaign go down the shitter cuz i like dave but this is hurting more than helping now

Now that you have expressed an opinion contrary to the the crowd, you are now officially a hater. Have a seat next to me and Showerbench. We have a spot open for the #3 fan of Fez if you're interested.

disneyspy

05-25-2010, 08:31 AM

Now that you have expressed an opinion contrary to the the crowd, you are now officially a hater. Have a seat next to me and Showerbench. We have a spot open for the #3 fan of Fez if you're interested.

well i dont drink but i sure like gettin a blow job

underdog

05-25-2010, 08:34 AM

Space Edge

05-25-2010, 09:25 AM

Now that you have expressed an opinion contrary to the the crowd, you are now officially a hater. Have a seat next to me and Showerbench. We have a spot open for the #3 fan of Fez if you're interested.

I've read this whole thread and you were the first person to bring up the word "hater" and then labeled yourself as one.

paulisded

05-25-2010, 10:07 AM

There's sure a lot of faggotry over there at the 'bag.

underdog

05-25-2010, 10:08 AM

There's sure a lot of faggotry over there at the 'bag.

As opposed to normal?

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:14 AM

I've read this whole thread and you were the first person to bring up the word "hater" and then labeled yourself as one.

Well learn to read. You can infer lots of things with words. They mean things ya know.

paulisded

05-25-2010, 10:14 AM

As opposed to normal?

Valid point.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:14 AM

There's sure a lot of faggotry over there at the 'bag.

So people who have a different point of view in a discussion are "faggots?"

paulisded

05-25-2010, 10:19 AM

So people who have a different point of view in a discussion are "faggots?"

No, Moe, that's not what I'm saying.

I have no problems with people that have differing views.

But the "experts" over there that seem to know everything about the McDonald household, and wish ill tidings to them, are certainly faggots.

underdog

05-25-2010, 10:25 AM

So people who have a different point of view in a discussion are "faggots?"

You're very defensive anymore.

Space Edge

05-25-2010, 10:27 AM

Well learn to read. You can infer lots of things with words. They mean things ya know.

I know how to read and all I see is you on here and over on WB posting about how people are calling you a hater and saying you don't get the show yet I haven't read one post that says that.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:27 AM

You're very defensive anymore.

I've always been defensive of the attitude that everyone over at Wackbag are knuckle draging haters who just spout racial humor and parrot the show. Some of them do, and some people over here are guilty of being Dave apologists.

Let's watch who's the pot and who's the kettle on these websites plz.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:28 AM

No, Moe, that's not what I'm saying.

I have no problems with people that have differing views.

But the "experts" over there that seem to know everything about the McDonald household, and wish ill tidings to them, are certainly faggots.

I haven't seen a lot of people wishing them ill will.

And all message boards talk about things as if the posters are experts. That's nothing new, we're all just speculating. We're more than allowed to bring things up that are thrown out on air.

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 10:30 AM

I haven't seen a lot of people wishing them ill will.

And all message boards talk about things as if the posters are experts. That's nothing new, we're all just speculating. We're more than allowed to bring things up that are thrown out on air.

You need to read the whole thread. People saying the kids should be taken away, people saying Casey should become a whore, people saying Dave should step in front of a train, pages and pages of people saying they are bad parents, it's all negative, nasty bullshit.

Striker laying out Casey's entire history, naming previous places of employment, then laying out an entire schedule for her involving work, involving mentioning Dave's mom?

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:32 AM

I know how to read and all I see is you on here and over on WB posting about how people are calling you a hater and saying you don't get the show yet I haven't read one post that says that.

Well then take a comprehension course. You read the words but their meanings didn't get to your brain.

disneyspy

05-25-2010, 10:33 AM

You need to read the whole thread. People saying the kids should be taken away, people saying Casey should become a whore, people saying Dave should step in front of a train, pages and pages of people saying they are bad parents, it's all negative, nasty bullshit.

Striker laying out Casey's entire history, naming previous places of employment, then laying out an entire schedule for her involving work, involving mentioning Dave's mom?

its that kind of shit why i dont visit any other boards anymore,thanks for reminding me

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:33 AM

You need to read the whole thread. People saying the kids should be taken away, people saying Casey should become a whore, people saying Dave should step in front of a train, pages and pages of people saying they are bad parents, it's all negative, nasty bullshit.

Striker laying out Casey's entire history, naming previous places of employment, then laying out an entire schedule for her involving work, involving mentioning Dave's mom?

I'm not going to apologize for Wackbag but I think you understand some of those remarks are black humor. Not all of them, no. Some though.

That's kinda why what's good for Ronfez is good for Ronfez and what's good for Wackbag is good for Wackbag. Its why I post on 2 boards.

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 10:35 AM

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:35 AM

its that kind of shit why i dont visit any other boards anymore,thanks for reminding me

That's the point of having different boards. You don't have to visit ones you don't agree with. It's nice, really. People talking how they want to, enforcing their own rules, having their own brand of humor.

I wouldn't agree with most of the things on a Howard Stern board so I don't have a membership there or post there.

Works out nicely.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:37 AM

I'd say 80% are serious. Too much for me. They are disgusting.

Yes, the ones who can't separate "Radio Dave" from "Real Dave" are kinda scary. But we have people on this board who do that too. Not as viciously, but that's one of the charms of Wackbag.

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 10:37 AM

That's the point of having different boards. You don't have to visit ones you don't agree with. It's nice, really. People talking how they want to, enforcing their own rules, having their own brand of humor.

I wouldn't agree with most of the things on a Howard Stern board so I don't have a membership there or post there.

Works out nicely.

Yeah, it's really great when boards like that do things like get Dave and Casey's personal address and post it and all giggle about it.

Works out nicely.

oPant

05-25-2010, 10:38 AM

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 10:40 AM

Who cares they are just a-holes trying to get a rise out of someone. Even is they mean some of it, so what. It's just some jerks opinion that you can't respect anyway.

they're disgusting is my point

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:41 AM

Yeah, it's really great when boards like that do things like get Dave and Casey's personal address and post it and all giggle about it.

Works out nicely.

Well let's be honest, nothing creepy and weird has ever happened over here on Ronfez? Because you know it has.

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 10:42 AM

Well let's be honest, nothing creepy and weird has ever happened over here on Ronfez? Because you know it has.

Not with the same frequency that it does over there. And it gets dealt with here.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 10:42 AM

they're disgusting is my point

They are sometimes, yes. I'm just not sure why you wasted like 3 hours over there trying to change the opinion of an entire board.

Furtherman

05-25-2010, 10:42 AM

Furtherman

05-25-2010, 10:43 AM

Well let's be honest, nothing creepy and weird has ever happened over here on Ronfez? Because you know it has.

Look, I said I WAS SORRY.

JEEEEEZE!!!!!!

paulisded

05-25-2010, 10:45 AM

You need to read the whole thread. People saying the kids should be taken away, people saying Casey should become a whore, people saying Dave should step in front of a train, pages and pages of people saying they are bad parents, it's all negative, nasty bullshit.

Striker laying out Casey's entire history, naming previous places of employment, then laying out an entire schedule for her involving work, involving mentioning Dave's mom?

That's the kind of shit that I'm talking about, and I do take it seriously when names like Stryker are involved. Do we need to bring up the wanna-be NHL blogger and his stalker letters to Casey?

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 10:45 AM

They are sometimes, yes. I'm just not sure why you wasted like 3 hours over there trying to change the opinion of an entire board.

slow day @ work, and I back up my friends. I'm not going to sit back and let them say disgusting things about Dave, Casey and their children that just isn't true.

Space Edge

05-25-2010, 10:57 AM

There's sure a lot of faggotry over there at the 'bag.

My favorite part about them is they all know exactly what is going on with the Ron and Fez show yet they all claim they don't listen.

Most of those people in that thread claiming they don't listen, usually download the show each day.*Fact

paulisded

05-25-2010, 11:00 AM

My favorite part about them is they all know exactly what is going on with the Ron and Fez show yet they all claim they don't listen.

Most of those people in that thread claiming they don't listen, usually download the show each day.*Fact

My favorite non-listener response was the one who went on and on about the "listening thread culture" that keeps him completely informed. Now if that's not faggotry I don't know what is.

Fillmore Slim

05-25-2010, 11:15 AM

You need to read the whole thread. People saying the kids should be taken away, people saying Casey should become a whore, people saying Dave should step in front of a train, pages and pages of people saying they are bad parents, it's all negative, nasty bullshit.

Striker laying out Casey's entire history, naming previous places of employment, then laying out an entire schedule for her involving work, involving mentioning Dave's mom?

That's the problem with trolling a message board. You're not a regular therefore you don't know the members, what their agendas are and who to ignore. The people that you're arguing with on wackbag are the resident Dave haters. Most of us choose to ignore them, you should do the same.

oPant

05-25-2010, 11:36 AM

The thing that sucks about Wackbag is that you can't say anything negative about OnA or Jimmy, but especially Opie. Forums should be a way to discuss whatever you need to. Even on SFN you can say whatever you want about Howard's show sucking or his wig, and Mutt even has a show on H101.

TripleSkeet

05-25-2010, 11:36 AM

I'm not going to apologize for Wackbag but I think you understand some of those remarks are black humor. Not all of them, no. Some though.

That's kinda why what's good for Ronfez is good for Ronfez and what's good for Wackbag is good for Wackbag. Its why I post on 2 boards.

Maybe the problem is their humor isnt funny. Its fucking stupid. Ive got no problem when people rip on something or someone I like if they are actually funny.

Look at the people over at FTB. Those guys tear O & A to shreds. I personally still like the show, and dont agree with alot of what they say, but I do laugh at alot of it because its genuinely funny.

The douchebags over at WB are about as funny as colon cancer.

The bottom line is they dont like Dave. Just like some people over here. And thats cool. But that thread, like this one wasnt for discussing your opinion on ESD, how he can better manage his money, his effect on the R & F show, or if hes a bad parent. It was to show people that WANT to support him how they can do it. Thats it.

These arent fucking discussion threads. Nobody cares about their fucking opinions on child rearing or money management. One of them actually used a Connor Peterson refernce. Really? Wakka Wakka! Show Reference! +2 points!

The best part is these fucking retards believe that if Dave leaves the show is going to revert to 2002. Reality is going to hit these guys like a fucking brick.

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 12:10 PM

That's the problem with trolling a message board. You're not a regular therefore you don't know the members, what their agendas are and who to ignore. The people that you're arguing with on wackbag are the resident Dave haters. Most of us choose to ignore them, you should do the same.

I wasn't aware that presenting an opposing opinion and presenting them with actual facts and firsthand knowledge rather than speculation, is trolling.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 12:14 PM

Maybe the problem is their humor isnt funny. Its fucking stupid. Ive got no problem when people rip on something or someone I like if they are actually funny.

Look at the people over at FTB. Those guys tear O & A to shreds. I personally still like the show, and dont agree with alot of what they say, but I do laugh at alot of it because its genuinely funny.

The douchebags over at WB are about as funny as colon cancer.

The bottom line is they dont like Dave. Just like some people over here. And thats cool. But that thread, like this one wasnt for discussing your opinion on ESD, how he can better manage his money, his effect on the R & F show, or if hes a bad parent. It was to show people that WANT to support him how they can do it. Thats it.

These arent fucking discussion threads. Nobody cares about their fucking opinions on child rearing or money management. One of them actually used a Connor Peterson refernce. Really? Wakka Wakka! Show Reference! +2 points!

The best part is these fucking retards believe that if Dave leaves the show is going to revert to 2002. Reality is going to hit these guys like a fucking brick.

So now you're the judge of what "real" humor is?

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 12:15 PM

I wasn't aware that presenting an opposing opinion and presenting them with actual facts and firsthand knowledge rather than speculation, is trolling.

His point was even responding to some of the people who are just known Dave haters is a waste of time. Those people aren't interested in a discussion, they're there to hate Dave.

Same stuff happens on this board when Fez is brought up. People who's screen names you haven't seen since the last Anti-Fez Fest pop up just to shit on Fez.

angrymissy

05-25-2010, 12:16 PM

So now you're the judge of what "real" humor is?

I think we can all agree that connor peterson ref doesn't = real humor.

brettmojo

05-25-2010, 12:17 PM

I think we can all agree that connor peterson ref doesn't = real humor.
If and only if a bucket of AIDS isn't involved.

TripleSkeet

05-25-2010, 12:20 PM

So now you're the judge of what "real" humor is?

I dont have to be a judge to tell the difference between funny and just dumb.

TripleSkeet

05-25-2010, 12:21 PM

If and only if a bucket of AIDS isn't involved.

+2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TjM

05-25-2010, 12:51 PM

So people who have a different point of view in a discussion are "faggots?"

YES!

Dave is the second coming of christ himself Mo! They should kill Fez and give dave his savings and milions a year. If you disagree you're a cunt!!

And now being serious

No Mo it's just "The Bag" seems to have allot of venom toward Dave (And for some reason Casey) Seems very needless. I mean there is some real vitriol there

TjM

05-25-2010, 12:53 PM

I mean that topic turned into "What should Dave do to fix his life" One person even called a FUCKING MOTHER OF 2 a "DEADBEAT" They're insane

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 01:19 PM

I think we can all agree that connor peterson ref doesn't = real humor.

Well I will agree that Connor Peterson references are a little dated at this point.

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 01:19 PM

I dont have to be a judge to tell the difference between funny and just dumb.

According to whom? That's my point. I don't want your definition of "funny" to be mine. Is that OK with you?

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 01:20 PM

YES!

No Mo it's just "The Bag" seems to have allot of venom toward Dave (And for some reason Casey) Seems very needless. I mean there is some real vitriol there

And the callers to The Ron and Fez show seem to come up with a lot of venom towards Fez when he makes a simple on air mistake. Should we condemn all callers?

Death Metal Moe

05-25-2010, 01:21 PM

I mean that topic turned into "What should Dave do to fix his life" One person even called a FUCKING MOTHER OF 2 a "DEADBEAT" They're insane

Well THAT is too far. I'm not going to let a couple bad posters paint the picture of what the average Wackbag poster is, in the same way I won't let a pro-Dave poster paint the pciture of what the average Ronfez poster is.

red_red_red

05-25-2010, 01:26 PM

And the callers to The Ron and Fez show seem to come up with a lot of venom towards Fez when he makes a simple on air mistake. Should we condemn all callers?
it's a bit
we all know that
Ron doesn't have to run with it

srsly..this has gotten way off point

i personally could care less who gets paid what and who works harder on air vs. off air
it does not affect my life

you creeps drive me to drink

Dell

05-25-2010, 01:29 PM

it's a bit
we all know that
Ron doesn't have to run with it

srsly..this has gotten way off point

i personally could care less who gets paid what and who works harder on air vs. off air
it does not affect my life

you creeps drive me to drink

now that's a short drive...a well worn road...:wink:

red_red_red

05-25-2010, 01:32 PM

now that's a short drive...a well worn road...:wink:
i like ppl who get jokes and don't need the love of obscure radio hosts to validate their existences
:drunk:
bottoms up

brettmojo

05-25-2010, 01:38 PM

Well THAT is too far. I'm not going to let a couple bad posters paint the picture of what the average Wackbag poster is,
This is what has always been said when this happens. Whether it's been about Casey or Dave or the half dozen other incidents where Wackbag's members have been painted as hateful inbred retards.

They might as well be Muslims. As long as you let the hateful minority exemplify for the so-called silent nicey-nice majority it really isn't anyone else's fault for seeing Wackbag this way than Wackbag itself. If you allow the assholes to be the most vociferous members of your group that's all you will be seen to be.