ESD new gig

[dolfangreg]

anyone heard ESD on his new radio gig? I think it's 90.5 out of New Jersey. He's working with some chick named Michelle. Just wondering because I hadn't heard him.

[Zorro]

I was in North Jersey (Hoboken) yesterday morning and tried, but the signal must not travel that far.

[strawberrypop]

You can listen online here. (http://wbjb.org/home.php/listen/)

Choose one of the webcast links for 90.5 The Night.

[Section 8]

Pros: He's a LOT closer to home. And at least he's got a job.

Cons: His talent is only heard on a community college station.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I wish they would dump fez and bring esd in.

[Lady Resin]

ESDs news podcast:

http://wbjb.org/home.php/2010/07/13/local-news-podcast-for-july-13/?utm_medium=twitter

[Chigworthy]

I bet he's suckin' and fuckin'.

[Willmore]

ESDs news podcast:

http://wbjb.org/home.php/2010/07/13/local-news-podcast-for-july-13/?utm_medium=twitter

Best fezatorial EVER!!!

[Sloppy2nds]

I have a feeling that this is a blessing in disguise for Dave.

[Willmore]

I have a feeling that this is a blessing in disguise for Dave.

Blessing in disguise:

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[Rhah]

He's probably getting paid close to the same as cheap ass Sirius which was basically paying him a non-for profit type salary.

[Meataball23]

I wish they would dump fez and bring esd in.

x2

[STC-Dub]

Best Board Gossip ever!

[Suspect Chin]

Poor bastard. He sounds so tame on that podcast. Could they not see the tats during his interview?

[Sloppy2nds]

Best Board Gossip ever!

a little gossip
a little chat....

good times :drunk:

[oPant]

He's probably getting paid close to the same as cheap ass Sirius which was basically paying him a non-for profit type salary.

I bet he's working for free.

[Crispy123]

What a waste of Daves talent. He could be eating shit, drinking piss, and fucking dogs in a much bigger market.

[CardiffGiant]

Glad he got another gig but it is definitely weird listening to him not only be so subdued but also reading straight off a script and not being able to be himself. I don't have XM so I don't catch Special Delivery and I definitely miss him on Ron and Fez but glad he found another gig in radio.

[zildjian361]

What a waste of Daves talent. He could be eating shit, drinking piss, and fucking dogs in a much bigger market.

:laugh::smoke::drunk:

[Chigworthy]

There are some torrents available of ESD's breaks. Poor Dave. He's like a caged retard there, he's been verbally castrated. If he ever can't do SD, there will be a SWAT team surrounding the studio after a shooting spree.

[samnyc]

Even though this is not the ESD I am used to, I still find him very entertaining. I kind of like Michelle McBride too. Does any have pics? And I dig the music mix.

I have been streaming in the morning and will probably keep doing so. It is a nice pleasant way to get started in the morning. If ESD gets some real airtime I will definitely become a member.

[burrben]

ESDs news podcast:

http://wbjb.org/home.php/2010/07/13/local-news-podcast-for-july-13/?utm_medium=twitter

I dont even know what he's talking about. what the fuck is 'new jersey'?

[STC-Dub]

Isn't that when you by a new shirt from your favorite sports team?

[suggums]

wow. im really happy for dave getting a gig in the industry he loves, but that clip was sadder to hear than any of fezzies meltdowns. hoping he'll get to be full-time creative again soon

[Pitdoc]

... this small gig is worth more to Dave than his salary at Sirius. Because i'm SURE it doesnt include family health insurance . It might have taken a lot of time & money to commute, but I bet his paycheck doesnt even cover his COBRA costs of his insurance for his family .

[Caseyelan]

... this small gig is worth more to Dave than his salary at Sirius. Because i'm SURE it doesnt include family health insurance . It might have taken a lot of time & money to commute, but I bet his paycheck doesnt even cover his COBRA costs of his insurance for his family .

When you are commuting 4 hours a day, you jump at the option to work 9 miles away.
Not only do you get 4 hours of your life back PER DAY to pursue other things, you get to see your kids.... who up till recently were referring to dave as the "guy we see on sunday"

[Chigworthy]

When you are commuting 4 hours a day, you jump at the option to work 9 miles away.
Not only do you get 4 hours of your life back PER DAY to pursue other things, you get to see your kids.... who up till recently were referring to dave as the "guy we see on sunday"

Don't cloud the issue with facts. We need to be able to judge and make decisions for your family without interference.

[Kevin]

... this small gig is worth more to Dave than his salary at Sirius. Because i'm SURE it doesnt include family health insurance . It might have taken a lot of time & money to commute, but I bet his paycheck doesnt even cover his COBRA costs of his insurance for his family .

I think Dave over estimated his worth to Sirius..

He thought they thought more of him.

Not saying he is worth less than he thought he was, just that Sirius didnt see it his way.

He thought they would give him the raise.

When they did not, I think it became a pride thing where he could not stay there and have any respect from the people he knows and worked for.

[Pitdoc]

When you are commuting 4 hours a day, you jump at the option to work 9 miles away.
Not only do you get 4 hours of your life back PER DAY to pursue other things, you get to see your kids.... who up till recently were referring to dave as the "guy we see on sunday"

I agree, but the cost of COBRA alone for his family should be about
$600 a month, which he was getting in ADDITION to his (meager) salary at XM. I have a feeling a dinky NPR station isnt going to front for family health insurance. So, Dave saves 4 hrs a day, but goes broke if Stan gets sick.Maybe he can get that Costco job part--time to pay the bills.

[Donnie Iris]

I agree, but the cost of COBRA alone for his family should be about
$600 a month, which he was getting in ADDITION to his (meager) salary at XM. I have a feeling a dinky NPR station isnt going to front for family health insurance. So, Dave saves 4 hrs a day, but goes broke if Stan gets sick.Maybe he can get that Costco job part--time to pay the bills.


Really?

[Chigworthy]

It's too bad Dave didn't think of all of these points.

[hammersavage]

I agree, but the cost of COBRA alone for his family should be about
$600 a month, which he was getting in ADDITION to his (meager) salary at XM. I have a feeling a dinky NPR station isnt going to front for family health insurance. So, Dave saves 4 hrs a day, but goes broke if Stan gets sick.Maybe he can get that Costco job part--time to pay the bills.

maybe you should not worry about it, you douche

[Caseyelan]

I agree, but the cost of COBRA alone for his family should be about
$600 a month, which he was getting in ADDITION to his (meager) salary at XM. I have a feeling a dinky NPR station isnt going to front for family health insurance. So, Dave saves 4 hrs a day, but goes broke if Stan gets sick.Maybe he can get that Costco job part--time to pay the bills.

For right now, Dave and I will be uninsured. The kids will be insured in a few weeks under NJ kid care until Dave finds full time employment.
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd scene.

[ozzie]

For right now, Dave and I will be uninsured. The kids will be insured in a few weeks under NJ kid care until Dave finds full time employment.
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd scene.

"...aaaaaand scene."®signoff of ozzie@rf.net©2003

All Rights Reserved, and may not be reproduced, distributed, modified or reposted without the express written permission of ozzie.

:tongue:

[Suspect Chin]

maybe you should not worry about it, you douche

So Dave puts his entire life out there for review but we aren't supposed to discuss it?

[hammersavage]

So Dave puts his entire life out there for review but we aren't supposed to discuss it?

should you drone on like you know exactly what his family is going through or in fact anything about the situation? no you shouldn't.

[K.C.]

Come on, Dave....Bill McNeil this shit!!

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[Chigworthy]

So Dave puts his entire life out there for review but we aren't supposed to discuss it?

Discuss it if you want, but when you make uninformed assumptions and post them as facts, you will be called a douche.

[Melk]

I am glad Dave got a gig.

[Suspect Chin]

should you drone on like you know exactly what his family is going through or in fact anything about the situation? no you shouldn't.

Discuss it if you want, but when you make uninformed assumptions and post them as facts, you will be called a douche.

Dave and his family are about as real to me as Chad Ochocinco, Lebron James, or Lindsay Lohan, but no one complains when we unknowingly speculate on their lives or career moves.

[sailor]

Dave and his family are about as real to me as Chad Ochocinco, Lebron James, or Lindsay Lohan, but no one complains when we unknowingly speculate on their lives or career moves.

obviously he and his family are more real to others here, silly. Stay classy.

[Penelope]

Congratulations Dave!

[Hottub]

Dave and his family are about as real to me as Chad Ochocinco, Lebron James, or Lindsay Lohan, but no one complains when we unknowingly speculate on their lives or career moves.

So it's all about you? Dave, Casey and the kids are quite real and fairly awesome. At least around these parts. You know, RonFez.net?

Pull shat shit at ochocinco.net and you'll get your ass handed to you.

[Caseyelan]

Dave and his family are about as real to me as Chad Ochocinco, Lebron James, or Lindsay Lohan, but no one complains when we unknowingly speculate on their lives or career moves.

Thanks for putting me on such a fucking grand list!
I had no idea.

[Lady Resin]

So it's all about you? Dave, Casey and the kids are quite real and fairly awesome. At least around these parts. You know, RonFez.net?

Pull shat shit at ochocinco.net and you'll get your ass handed to you.

I found that podcast and sent it to 202friends. I've been listening since day 1, a whole 3 days!. The music is pretty good. It goes from one extreme to another. I listen online. In the kitchen I have 202 on. It's the same boring shit. I think I found my morning hangout. To each his own. :wink:

[Suspect Chin]

So it's all about you? Dave, Casey and the kids are quite real and fairly awesome. At least around these parts. You know, RonFez.net?

Pull shat shit at ochocinco.net and you'll get your ass handed to you.

All the people I listed are real too. I'm not wishing bad things on his family. My point is that for a great majority of listeners, they are no more real than any other personality so why should hypothesizing or criticizing their choices be off limits?

By the same note of anonymity, I don't think anyone is going to get their ass handed to them via a message board posting.

Thanks for putting me on such a fucking grand list!
I had no idea.

Actually yeah, you're on my 'celebrities' (psuedo or otherwise) list that I'll never meet and, while I wish you the best, what happens to you and your family will never affect my life (other than making my favorite radio show less funny).

[samnyc]

I can't comment on pay and insurance matters for Dave's new gig. (All I know is that Fez didn't do the right thing when he had the chance.)

What I can say is that everyone should be listening to ESD's morning show. Today he had more non scripted conversation with Michele who's cool and got out some personal stories, movie references, and jokes.

Absolutely love the ESD!!! At this rate, he could be the next Karl Kasel.

[Pitdoc]

For right now, Dave and I will be uninsured. The kids will be insured in a few weeks under NJ kid care until Dave finds full time employment.
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd scene.

Casey , I apologize. Being in the medical field, and seeing how Stan was doing, I was concerned about your insurance. If you're covered, I apologize. And of course, to misquote Mr B, "Don't take the advice of some asshole on a messageboard".

[UnknownPD]

When you are commuting 4 hours a day, you jump at the option to work 9 miles away.
Not only do you get 4 hours of your life back PER DAY to pursue other things, you get to see your kids.... who up till recently were referring to dave as the "guy we see on sunday"

Best of luck. I hope it all works out well for you guys.

[Hottub]

All the people I listed are real too. I'm not wishing bad things on his family. My point is that for a great majority of listeners, they are no more real than any other personality so why should hypothesizing or criticizing their choices be off limits?

By the same note of anonymity, I don't think anyone is going to get their ass handed to them via a message board posting.

You choose to be anonymous. That's entirely up to you. On this particular board many people have met, interacted and even become friends with the people you talk about from behind your keyboard. I am among them. This makes them more than TMZ fodder. If you talk shit about our friends, you will get shit handed back to you. Pretty simple, no?

Actually yeah, you're on my 'celebrities' (psuedo or otherwise) list that I'll never meet and, while I wish you the best, what happens to you and your family will never affect my life (other than making my favorite radio show less funny).

According to your logic, what happened with Dave did have an effect on you. Even if it's just the way you enjoy your entertainment. To others it is more. As I have said, this is a board revolving around the show. Maybe your cold, removed personna doesn't care, but I well up every time I get a less than positive Stanley update. I can't remove myself. Neither can many others around here. Deal with it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Best of luck. I hope it all works out well for you guys.

But isn't Dave a "failure" in your logic, you dummy?

*Hottub Edit*

[spoon]

You choose to be anonymous. That's entirely up to you. On this particular board many people have met, interacted and even become friends with the people you talk about from behind your keyboard. I am among them. This makes them more than TMZ fodder. If you talk shit about our friends, you will get shit handed back to you. Pretty simple, no?



According to your logic, what happened with Dave did have an effect on you. Even if it's just the way you enjoy your entertainment. To others it is more. As I have said, this is a board revolving around the show. Maybe your cold, removed personna doesn't care, but I well up every time I get a less than positive Stanley update. I can't remove myself. Neither can many others around here. Deal with it.

In fairness, you have no opinion (outside of falling in line) on anything and love every single person you have ever met associated with this board unless they give shit to you. Your integrity is compromised simply due to the fact that you wear rose colored glasses and you're only a cardigan sweater away from being Mr. Rogers. He made his point and you disagree.

SC never once stated ESD and Casey's issues with their child didn't make him feel for them, he said it wouldn't have an actual impact on his life. And truth be told this is pretty fucking healthy in the end. His view and closeness to the show are different from yours, deal with that and stop acting as if your involvement matters and impacts them at all. All civil people who know of ESD and Casey's son's health issues wish them the best. And speak for yourself Tub, enough talking for the entire board regardless if you have more posts then the rest of us combined. Sometimes I truly believe you "well up" so publicly just to be seen doing so.

[spoon]

and ur edits are so idiotic

he yelled at someone, big fucking deal

are we really that small? thank God tub is here to censor us bc we soooo needed it the first 5 years. I really get a kick out of the pussification of this board of late.

[Hottub]

In fairness, you have no opinion (outside of falling in line) on anything and love every single person you have ever met associated with this board unless they give shit to you. Your integrity is compromised simply due to the fact that you wear rose colored glasses and you're only a cardigan sweater away from being Mr. Rogers. He made his point and you disagree.

SC never once stated ESD and Casey's issues with their child didn't make him feel for them, he said it wouldn't have an actual impact on his life. And truth be told this is pretty fucking healthy in the end. His view and closeness to the show are different from yours, deal with that and stop acting as if your involvement matters and impacts them at all. All civil people who know of ESD and Casey's son's health issues wish them the best. And speak for yourself Tub, enough talking for the entire board regardless if you have more posts then the rest of us combined. Sometimes I truly believe you "well up" so publicly just to be seen doing so.

It has an impact on mine and many others. I am not speaking for all, but a good number. I am giving my opinion, Just as you are doing.
Also, your armchair analysis of me is laughable. Maybe you should choose a new career, Dr.

And despite you shitting on me for 8 years now, I still like you. Deal with that, dick.

[Hottub]

and ur edits are so idiotic

he yelled at someone, big fucking deal

are we really that small? thank God tub is here to censor us bc we soooo needed it the first 5 years. I really get a kick out of the pussification of this board of late.

The administration of this board laid down guidelines against personal attacks.:wink:

[Tenbatsuzen]

The administration of this board laid down guidelines against personal attacks.:wink:

Holy shit, have you seen some of the shit UPD was throwing at me? Fuck him, and fuck your mod edit if you're not gonna play both lines.

[spoon]

Holy shit, have you seen some of the shit UPD was throwing at me? Fuck him, and fuck your mod edit if you're not gonna play both lines.

i just find it funny that if the insult is deemed goofy enough it's cool, but curse words are a no no

when the fuck did this stop being an xl board?

and this board HAS NO ADMIN!

Deal or Leave.

And you had no choice to love me tub, i exist and that's your law.

[Hottub]

and this board HAS NO ADMIN!.
You missed my smiley?

And you had no choice to love me tub, i exist and that's your law.

Matty also exists.
Your logic is flawed.

[Willmore]

Come on, Dave....Bill McNeil this shit!!

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Fuck, I completely forgot that the chick from Treme was on NewsRadio.

Oh, and I miss Phil Hartman, the man was a genius.

[UnknownPD]

But isn't Dave a "failure" in your logic, you dummy?

*Hottub Edit*

Whatever, Rupert.

[Rhah]

http://www.planet-familyguy.com/pfg/images/characters/rupert.jpg

[conman823]

Speaking about Mod's isn't this in the wrong area? ESD is no longer part of R&F, this thread should be moved to Radio Buddies.

[Chigworthy]

Speaking about Mod's isn't this in the wrong area? ESD is no longer part of R&F, this thread should be moved to Radio Buddies.

I may leave the board if this isn't fixed. And by the definition of "Talk about topics brought up on the air!", we should only be discussing things brought up on the air in this forum. I demand that the mods go through the entire Everything Ron & Fez forum and move anything that wasn't brought up on the air. If not, I might make 4.0. It's driving me bananas.

[conman823]

I may leave the board if this isn't fixed. And by the definition of "Talk about topics brought up on the air!", we should only be discussing things brought up on the air in this forum. I demand that the mods go through the entire Everything Ron & Fez forum and move anything that wasn't brought up on the air. If not, I might make 4.0. It's driving me bananas.

Logic Demands no less.

[TjM]

For right now, Dave and I will be uninsured. The kids will be insured in a few weeks under NJ kid care until Dave finds full time employment.
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd scene.

Thars so wrong though. He was employed allot. He deseves at least some residual benifit. Espiecially with the kids. The workd is fucking bullshit

[TjM]

So Dave puts his entire life out there for review but we aren't supposed to discuss it?

No. On.Net we are now only allowed to say Fez should have given Dave 80K a year.

[conman823]

Thars so wrong though. He was employed allot. He deseves at least some residual benifit. Espiecially with the kids. The workd is fucking bullshit

Huh??:blink:

[TjM]

All the people I listed are real too. I'm not wishing bad things on his family. My point is that for a great majority of listeners, they are no more real than any other personality so why should hypothesizing or criticizing their choices be off limits?

By the same note of anonymity, I don't think anyone is going to get their ass handed to them via a message board posting.



Actually yeah, you're on my 'celebrities' (psuedo or otherwise) list that I'll never meet and, while I wish you the best, what happens to you and your family will never affect my life (other than making my favorite radio show less funny).

Listen asshole

Keep with the driective!

Dave- totalyfucking awsome and deserving of a nobel prize!

Fez- Needs to be killed by a hobo and his worldly possesions given to Dave

You have been warned

[TjM]

You choose to be anonymous. That's entirely up to you. On this particular board many people have met, interacted and even become friends with the people you talk about from behind your keyboard. I am among them. This makes them more than TMZ fodder. If you talk shit about our friends, you will get shit handed back to you. Pretty simple, no?



According to your logic, what happened with Dave did have an effect on you. Even if it's just the way you enjoy your entertainment. To others it is more. As I have said, this is a board revolving around the show. Maybe your cold, removed personna doesn't care, but I well up every time I get a less than positive Stanley update. I can't remove myself. Neither can many others around here. Deal with it.



Okay lemme get this straight.

Say "Fez sucks ass/should be kiled/and Dave takes over" - A OK

"Anthing not positive about the Holiest of Holies David "AwsomeandHoly" MacDonald"

NO NO DON'T SAY THAT


You know what dude cancel my shit I'm sick of the Fez hate/ For some fucking reason this board can not like both

[TjM]

Huh??:blink:

I'm saying if Dave was part of the wokr force for most of his life. He should have his ids covered for at leat a year. Communist I know but still)

[spoon]

Okay lemme get this straight.

Say "Fez sucks ass/should be kiled/and Dave takes over" - A OK

"Anthing not positive about the Holiest of Holies David "AwsomeandHoly" MacDonald"

NO NO DON'T SAY THAT


You know what dude cancel my shit I'm sick of the Fez hate/ For some fucking reason this board can not like both

Now that's a certified fucking TjM truth bong!

And I agree 100% on the last part. Nicely done you crazy mofo!

[spoon]

I'm saying if Dave was part of the wokr force for most of his life. He should have his ids covered for at leat a year. Communist I know but still)

Hell, my father is 62 and worked right up until 60 and started as a kid only to be losing his MUCH NEEDED insurance at the end of this month. He was a journalist and newspaper editor for over 40 fucking years straight on top of this and yet he'll have to PAY A SHIT-LOAD just to get Cobra to cover him until he gets to 65.

[Slim Anus]

Him Quitting is for the best. His kids get to see there dad more and we don't have to listen to him yap about sports. He would be perfect for a sportstalker but I can't see who would give him a shot. Maybe The Fan?

I would love to hear him cohost with Dianne Rehm on NPR.

[K.C.]

Thars so wrong though. He was employed allot. He deseves at least some residual benifit. Espiecially with the kids. The workd is fucking bullshit

I'm all for universal healthcare, but he did quit a job that gave him health coverage. It's hard to act like he's getting a raw deal.

[K.C.]

Hell, my father is 62 and worked right up until 60 and started as a kid only to be losing his MUCH NEEDED insurance at the end of this month. He was a journalist and newspaper editor for over 40 fucking years straight on top of this and yet he'll have to PAY A SHIT-LOAD just to get Cobra to cover him until he gets to 65.

Cobra is legalized rape.

[Suspect Chin]

I'm all for universal healthcare, but he did quit a job that gave him health coverage. It's hard to act like he's getting a raw deal.

**Spectulation Warning**

My guess is that he is so far in debt under medical bills that adding more to the pile wasn't really a concern.

[Kevin]

**Spectulation Warning**

My guess is that he is so far in debt under medical bills that adding more to the pile wasn't really a concern.



Yea, because when you are in debt, the answer is to get into more debt.

You do realize that he has to pay it at some point if he ever wants to do anything credit wise in his life right?

[Suspect Chin]

Yea, because when you are in debt, the answer is to get into more debt.

You do realize that he has to pay it at some point if he ever wants to do anything credit wise in his life right?

If you have a sick kid, debt is probably near the back of your mind.

He won't ever have to pay for it. There are tons of programs to help situations like his.

[K.C.]

If you have a sick kid, debt is probably near the back of your mind.

He won't ever have to pay for it. There are tons of programs to help situations like his.

He won't ever have to pay it, but he also won't ever be able to buy anything.

It's the same reason he would always bring up how he couldn't get a credit card....it fucks your credit, and you can't buy anything worthwhile with shitty credit...even quite a few jobs screen credit as part of the hiring process now.

Bankruptcy kills...takes equally as long to restore your standing as it does to pay the bills.

[Suspect Chin]

He won't ever have to pay it, but he also won't ever be able to buy anything.

It's the same reason he would always bring up how he couldn't get a credit card....it fucks your credit, and you can't buy anything worthwhile with shitty credit...even quite a few jobs screen credit as part of the hiring process now.

Bankruptcy kills...takes equally as long to restore your standing as it does to pay the bills.

I'm not even talking about bankruptcy. There are programs to help pay for hospital bills for sick kids in lower income families.

My niece had a brain tumor, had the surgery, a full year of chemo and all the hospital stays that go with it, and my sister never paid a cent of the final hospital bill which was nearly a quarter million dollars.

[Kevin]

He won't ever have to pay it, but he also won't ever be able to buy anything.

It's the same reason he would always bring up how he couldn't get a credit card....it fucks your credit, and you can't buy anything worthwhile with shitty credit...even quite a few jobs screen credit as part of the hiring process now.

Bankruptcy kills...takes equally as long to restore your standing as it does to pay the bills.

Yep..

I applied for a job and got it just recently, the screened my cred, had a few issues, had to take care of every thing before they hired me.

[Hottub]

For right now, Dave and I will be uninsured. The kids will be insured in a few weeks under NJ kid care until Dave finds full time employment.
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd scene.

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[Suspect Chin]

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What's your point? The new insurance isn't going to cover existing debt.

[K.C.]

I'm not even talking about bankruptcy. There are programs to help pay for hospital bills for sick kids in lower income families.

My niece had a brain tumor, had the surgery, a full year of chemo and all the hospital stays that go with it, and my sister never paid a cent of the final hospital bill which was nearly a quarter million dollars.

I'll confess I don't know a lot about state and federal medical programs, but I would wonder if that covers medical debt prior to entering, and it certainly doesn't cover personal debt.



Look, I like Dave...I hope he gets everything together, it's just that my experience with reading these Dave threads is that people seem to keep hammering on two things:

1) Dave was dealt the worst hand ever (just not true...having a sick kid is extremely rough, but as far as his job stuff and struggles go, he's dealing with something that a hell of a lot of parents go through...trying to juggle what they want versus what's best for their kids and family).

2) Dave should have just been handed the keys by Sirius (or Fez should have just handed him his spot) because he's a talented guy (ideally, maybe...but it's just not the way shit works, especially in radio, and especially in a dying sub-sect of radio like talk radio...look at Ron...the guy was by all accounts a pretty decent comedian and he had to go to shitty fucking Tampa to start and build a show over a DECADE just to get a chance to do overnights at WNEW...and that was when talk radio was at its peak in terms of jobs and the economics...I only know what gets put out on the air, but both Ron & Fez have made it sound like that even though Dave is really talented, he didn't exactly bang down the doors of PDs to get demo tapes in their hand...that could be entirely wrong, and if so, then they did a disservice to him with how they discussed it over the whole saga, but it sounded like he was lax in the whole business side of the business).

Again, I'm sympathetic to the guy, but people talk about him on here like he's completely helpless and screwed, because he didn't get what he wanted from Sirius or Ron & Fez...it should be somewhat insulting to him that people act that way on his behalf...if people like the guy, support his Sam & Dave show...all the other shit, and especially the personal dissection shit is just stupid.

[Kevin]

I'll confess I don't know a lot about state and federal medical programs, but I would wonder if that covers medical debt prior to entering, and it certainly doesn't cover personal debt.



Look, I like Dave...I hope he gets everything together, it's just that my experience with reading these Dave threads is that people seem to keep hammering on two things:

1) Dave was dealt the worst hand ever (just not true...having a sick kid is extremely rough, but as far as his job stuff and struggles go, he's dealing with something that a hell of a lot of parents go through...trying to juggle what they want versus what's best for their kids and family).

2) Dave should have just been handed the keys by Sirius (or Fez should have just handed him his spot) because he's a talented guy (ideally, maybe...but it's just not the way shit works, especially in radio, and especially in a dying sub-sect of radio like talk radio...look at Ron...the guy was by all accounts a pretty decent comedian and he had to go to shitty fucking Tampa to start and build a show over a DECADE just to get a chance to do overnights at WNEW...and that was when talk radio was at its peak in terms of jobs and the economics...I only know what gets put out on the air, but both Ron & Fez have made it sound like that even though Dave is really talented, he didn't exactly bang down the doors of PDs to get demo tapes in their hand...that could be entirely wrong, and if so, then they did a disservice to him with how they discussed it over the whole saga, but it sounded like he was lax in the whole business side of the business).

Again, I'm sympathetic to the guy, but people talk about him on here like he's completely helpless and screwed, because he didn't get what he wanted from Sirius or Ron & Fez...it should be somewhat insulting to him that people act that way on his behalf...if people like the guy, support his Sam & Dave show...all the other shit, and especially the personal dissection shit is just stupid.

Pretty much dead on on everything..

[Hottub]

What's your point? The new insurance isn't going to cover existing debt.

The insurance was in state for the duration of the existing problem.

[Caseyelan]

Because you all seemed concerned....
I am getting my period on the 24th. My rent is due on the 1st and julianna is getting shots on the 29th.


thanks.

[StanUpshaw]

Because you all seemed concerned....
I am getting my period on the 24th. My rent is due on the 1st and julianna is getting shots on the 29th.


thanks.

Aren't you worried that Jules will catch the autism?

[Suspect Chin]

Because you all seemed concerned....
I am getting my period on the 24th. My rent is due on the 1st and julianna is getting shots on the 29th.


thanks.

And you wonder why you're so well loved here.

[Sue_Bender]

And you wonder why you're so well loved here.

It's within her rights to address her private life, since it's apparently an open discussion for everyone else.

[Chigworthy]

And you wonder why you're so well loved here.

Yeah, how dare her respond cynically to a bunch of wads who think they know enough about her family to judge their decisions.

[PapaBear]

And you wonder why you're so well loved here.
She IS well loved here!

[StanUpshaw]

I wonder if there has ever been a case where the dog is allergic to the baby.

[Suspect Chin]

It's within her rights to address her private life, since it's apparently an open discussion for everyone else.

Yeah of course she has complete rights to do whatever she wants on here.

I just think she (and Hottub and anyone else still in denial) needs to come to grips with the fact that her family's life has become public through Dave's on air work, their website, posts on here, etc. therefore it is open for discussion, just as any other public personality (large or small) is open for discussion. I don't think anyone was being overly rude, condescending, or vulgar, so I don't see the reason for the overreaction.

Ron obviously does not want the personal details of his life and family known to listeners and has done a spectacular job of keeping them private. I'd suggest that if she wants a more private life, that she (and Dave) follow Ron's example. Until then I consider their problems open for discussion just like anyone else on here who throws a problem out to the board for discussion. The only difference is that some people on here know the McDonalds personally so they think their problems should be held to a different standard of privacy. As I've stated before they are just as unknown to most people on here as any other public person so I see no reason why they should be given special treatment.

[Caseyelan]

And you wonder why you're so well loved here.

I never wondered that.
Nice avatar.

[Suspect Chin]

I never wondered that.
Nice avatar.

I love Dave and I wish you all the best but I don't see why we can't discuss your problems on here just like we would anyone else's problems. In fact, I think the ability to discuss the issues you are facing is helpful to others who might be in similar situations with sick kids, health insurance problems, unemployment/underemployment issues, etc.

[Caseyelan]

I love Dave and I wish you all the best but I don't see why we can't discuss your problems on here just like we would anyone else's problems. In fact, I think the ability to discuss the issues you are facing is helpful to others who might be in similar situations.

I never said that you couldn't.
Of COURSE I would prefer people weren't dicks about it.
I'm just adding where I can, and laughing.

Read all my posts in this thread.

If I wasn't giving info, I was making jokes.

[Kevin]

Yeah of course she has complete rights to do whatever she wants on here.

I just think she (and Hottub and anyone else still in denial) needs to come to grips with the fact that her family's life has become public through Dave's on air work, their website, posts on here, etc. therefore it is open for discussion, just as any other public personality (large or small) is open for discussion. I don't think anyone was being overly rude, condescending, or vulgar, so I don't see the reason for the overreaction.

Ron obviously does not want the personal details of his life and family known to listeners and has done a spectacular job of keeping them private. I'd suggest that if she wants a more private life, that she (and Dave) follow Ron's example. Until then I consider their problems open for discussion just like anyone else on here who throws a problem out to the board for discussion. The only difference is that some people on here know the McDonalds personally so they think their problems should be held to a different standard of privacy. As I've stated before they are just as unknown to most people on here as any other public person so I see no reason why they should be given special treatment.


Here's the thing that you are missing..

1. Dave is no longer on the air where you can hear him.
2. HE can be talked about, but his family especially his kids should not be talked about. Its none of your business. Casey has told you countless times to stop it and i think you need to respect that.
3. For the love of God get a life. There has to be other shit in your life that deserve the time that you and stan are giving to this.

[StanUpshaw]

Here's the thing that you are missing..

1. Dave is no longer on the air where you can hear him.
2. HE can be talked about, but his family especially his kids should not be talked about. Its none of your business. Casey has told you countless times to stop it and i think you need to respect that.
3. For the love of God get a life. There has to be other shit in your life that deserve the time that you and stan are giving to this.

Why the fuck are you dragging me into this?

[Suspect Chin]

Here's the thing that you are missing..

1. Dave is no longer on the air where you can hear him.
2. HE can be talked about, but his family especially his kids should not be talked about. Its none of your business. Casey has told you countless times to stop it and i think you need to respect that.
3. For the love of God get a life. There has to be other shit in your life that deserve the time that you and stan are giving to this.

1. His legacy will last forever.
2. Their problems have taken on a life of their own and aren't really unique to them. It could be you or anyone else on here facing the same issues and posting about them and I would respond the same way. Tons of problems are thrown out to the board every single day and we all respond with our opinions, but since some people have actually met the McDonalds in real life, those of us who haven't met them have to treat them differently? I'm sure there is at least one person on here who has met and loves Lebron James, but no one complained when I started his speculation thread.
3. I have to get a life but you're OK responding just as frequently to my and others' posts?

[Kevin]

Why the fuck are you dragging me into this?

Eh, I was bored..

Just wanted to see what response you would give

[Chigworthy]

Yeah of course she has complete rights to do whatever she wants on here.

I just think she (and Hottub and anyone else still in denial) needs to come to grips with the fact that her family's life has become public through Dave's on air work, their website, posts on here, etc. therefore it is open for discussion, just as any other public personality (large or small) is open for discussion. I don't think anyone was being overly rude, condescending, or vulgar, so I don't see the reason for the overreaction.

Ron obviously does not want the personal details of his life and family known to listeners and has done a spectacular job of keeping them private. I'd suggest that if she wants a more private life, that she (and Dave) follow Ron's example. Until then I consider their problems open for discussion just like anyone else on here who throws a problem out to the board for discussion. The only difference is that some people on here know the McDonalds personally so they think their problems should be held to a different standard of privacy. As I've stated before they are just as unknown to most people on here as any other public person so I see no reason why they should be given special treatment.

This "freedom of speech" argument always mystifies me. At the same time you are complaining that someone is somehow trying to prevent you from expressing your opinion (when in fact they are just retorting), you are retorting to them in the same way. It really comes off stupid and childish.

[Slumbag]

Yeah of course she has complete rights to do whatever she wants on here.

I just think she (and Hottub and anyone else still in denial) needs to come to grips with the fact that her family's life has become public through Dave's on air work, their website, posts on here, etc. therefore it is open for discussion, just as any other public personality (large or small) is open for discussion. I don't think anyone was being overly rude, condescending, or vulgar, so I don't see the reason for the overreaction.

Ron obviously does not want the personal details of his life and family known to listeners and has done a spectacular job of keeping them private. I'd suggest that if she wants a more private life, that she (and Dave) follow Ron's example. Until then I consider their problems open for discussion just like anyone else on here who throws a problem out to the board for discussion. The only difference is that some people on here know the McDonalds personally so they think their problems should be held to a different standard of privacy. As I've stated before they are just as unknown to most people on here as any other public person so I see no reason why they should be given special treatment.

I don't think whether you can say things or not is the question.
It's why would you want to?

People are obsessed with being TMZ of Dave and his family. You don't find that the least bit strange?

[Suspect Chin]

I don't think whether you can say things or not is the question.
It's why would you want to?

People are obsessed with being TMZ of Dave and his family. You don't find that the least bit strange?

No. It is a message board designed to discuss the Ron and Fez show, which includes producers past and present. I would find it strange if those people weren't discussed here, especially in this forum, which is in fact entitled, Everything Ron & Fez.

[Slumbag]

No.
Wow.

[Suspect Chin]

Wow.

You're shocked that people from the R&F show are discussed in the R&F forum on the R&F website?

[Zorro]

Yea, because when you are in debt, the answer is to get into more debt.



Works for the government

[Rhah]

Seems like Ronnie just accused Fez of same thing... if you don't want your personal life talked about, don't talk about it on the air...

[spoon]

I love Dave and I wish you all the best but I don't see why we can't discuss your problems on here just like we would anyone else's problems. In fact, I think the ability to discuss the issues you are facing is helpful to others who might be in similar situations with sick kids, health insurance problems, unemployment/underemployment issues, etc.

I never said that you couldn't.
Of COURSE I would prefer people weren't dicks about it.
I'm just adding where I can, and laughing.

Read all my posts in this thread.

If I wasn't giving info, I was making jokes.

Here's the thing that you are missing..

1. Dave is no longer on the air where you can hear him.
2. HE can be talked about, but his family especially his kids should not be talked about. Its none of your business. Casey has told you countless times to stop it and i think you need to respect that.
3. For the love of God get a life. There has to be other shit in your life that deserve the time that you and stan are giving to this.

Not quite sure where you came up with #3, but you really should read casey's post a few seconds before yours. :wacko: The bottom line is a LOT of this has been in the public eye and it's being discussed in a pretty damn civil manner. Some people need to calm down and stop playing the ass licking hero bc if you ever met Casey, you'd realize she's a smart ass who probably would make fun of you for being a pussy.

[samnyc]

Thank god for East Side Dave and the news. Now I know not to swim on the Jersey Shore due to sharks, not go into the school superintendent business, and stay away from this Villanueva character.

Maybe Dave can work out a deal where he simulcasts his news and sports updates onto XM 202 like O&A did from CBS.

[Chigworthy]

Not quite sure where you came up with #3, but you really should read casey's post a few seconds before yours. :wacko: The bottom line is a LOT of this has been in the public eye and it's being discussed in a pretty damn civil manner. Some people need to calm down and stop playing the ass licking hero bc if you ever met Casey, you'd realize she's a smart ass who probably would make fun of you for being a pussy.

I think Kevin was addressing Suspect Chin and his buddy Stan Upshaw, not Casey and Stan. I was confused at first too.

[mikeyboy]

I haven't read through all of this thread, but I'll bet it would annoy me even more if I did.

When Dave was on the show, he opened up his personal life more than any other radio personality I am aware of. As a result, you probably know more intimate details about Dave's life than you do about your closest friends. He did it for your entertainment. It always kind of annoyed me when people would, rather just enjoy what they heard, felt invested to provide armchair analysis of his life and to attack just because they were able to. However, I understand that the things he said became fodder for discussion because they were brought up on the show, so some of the discussion, as ugly as it can be, is justified.

Here's the thing though. He's no longer on the show. It seems like it would be respectful to leave his personal life alone now that he's moved on. If I was still running this place, I would say that the discussions of his personal life are no longer allowed because Dave's no longer on the show. For the folks who would retort with "God forbid we discuss the Ron & Fez Show on a board devoted to the Ron & Fez Show", I would say tough shit and point out that there's no such thing as freedom of speech on a privately owned message board. I would also note that if you really feel compelled to dissect Dave's personal life and cast aspersions, I'm sure Wackbag would be happy to have you.

I guess some of you should be happy I'm not in charge anymore.

[Hottub]

I guess some of you should be happy I'm not in charge anymore.
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[spoon]

I haven't read through all of this thread, but I'll bet it would annoy me even more if I did.

When Dave was on the show, he opened up his personal life more than any other radio personality I am aware of. As a result, you probably know more intimate details about Dave's life than you do about your closest friends. He did it for your entertainment. It always kind of annoyed me when people would, rather just enjoy what they heard, felt invested to provide armchair analysis of his life and to attack just because they were able to. However, I understand that the things he said became fodder for discussion because they were brought up on the show, so some of the discussion, as ugly as it can be, is justified.

Here's the thing though. He's no longer on the show. It seems like it would be respectful to leave his personal life alone now that he's moved on. If I was still running this place, I would say that the discussions of his personal life are no longer allowed because Dave's no longer on the show. For the folks who would retort with "God forbid we discuss the Ron & Fez Show on a board devoted to the Ron & Fez Show", I would say tough shit and point out that there's no such thing as freedom of speech on a privately owned message board. I would also note that if you really feel compelled to dissect Dave's personal life and cast aspersions, I'm sure Wackbag would be happy to have you.

I guess some of you should be happy I'm not in charge anymore.

While I don't agree with this, I do have some similar ideas on the theme. To me, it's out there and it's fodder for discussion sure. It's simply the way some feel they have to direct their posts that may disagree, loaded with totally unfounded hate and anger toward either ESD, Fez or Casey. Ok, disagree with their motives, choices and hell even there overall way of life, but do we have to act high almighty in the process and say some terrible things too? If you find the need to destroy someone like that, I offer up Mikeyboy bc he and his disgusting remote control stories deserve only the highest level of vitriol you can bring to the table.

Seriously though, some of the people others like to say we shouldn't comment on or discuss, are the very same people still putting almost their entire lives out there on the net in multiple ways. This isn't the prerequisite to being awful to someone, but it surely does mean you put it out there. If someone requested it being off the table and they backed it up by their own actions, I think most civil adults here on the board would do just that. However, I'm not convinced this is what said people actually want. To me, most always want the spotlight when it's shining bright, but never when it goes the other way in any manner. It simply doesn't work that way and shouldn't.

[spoon]

<---------

Yah don't remind us Justjon's lack of presence, vision and intellect.

[Hottub]

You at least have to give him his cat-like ability to scoop a grounder and turn the D.P.

[Kevin]

You at least have to give him his cat-like ability to scoop a grounder and turn the D.P.



Can he even reach 2b on the throw?

[Hottub]

Can he even reach 2b on the throw?

We need sarcasm tags.
Get a mod on that. Chop chop!!

[Lady Resin]

When Dave was on the show, he opened up his personal life more than any other radio personality I am aware of. As a result, you probably know more intimate details about Dave's life than you do about your closest friends.

I've been listening everyday. He did admit to Michele on Friday that he did eat raw chicken once. He's coming around. :smile:

[mikeyboy]

I've been listening everyday. He did admit to Michele on Friday that he did eat raw chicken once. He's coming around. :smile:

Ha! Did he really? Nice!

[hanso]

NPR? Ant will be calling ESD a tree huggin Lib soon.

[StanUpshaw]

I just listened to the compilation of Dave on Brookdale. :(



Now I know how Big Chief felt after McMurphy got lobotomized.

[Chigworthy]

scoop a grounder and turn the D.P.

Disgusting.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I am getting my period on the 24th.

Sore Jew tits.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I've been listening everyday. He did admit to Michele on Friday that he did eat raw chicken once. He's coming around. :smile:

Please tell me there's a comprehensive archive of ESD's Brookdale clips. So far all I've heard is his first newsbreak.

[knockknock]

I've been listening to Dave's breaks that someone helpfully posted somewhere.

They're short, but surprisingly entertaining. He has a nice rapport with Michelle, the host. Dave sounds comfortable and relaxed. He and Michelle have small-talk, and Dave is funny just like he was on Ron & Fez. It's not forced jokes, just amusing banter.

Hearing Dave's voice makes me miss his role on R&F.

[wk3636]

Ronnie said they are trying to bring Dave back now. Interesting turn of events. Before, Ronnie was saying how Dave had to do what he had to do. Wonder what changed his stance. Would be great to have Dave back, but sounds like Sirius is still not budging.

[STC-Dub]

I thought he said they were holding off on replacing Dave hoping that something would happen. I do not think that is really change of his stance.

[wk3636]

I thought he said they were holding off on replacing Dave hoping that something would happen. I do not think that is really change of his stance.

Ron said they were working on some things to get Dave back on the show. When Ron mentioned it before it sounded like there wasnt any chance of Dave returning. Ron had basically moved on and wished Dave luck in finding a new job best for him and his family. No one else is talking about here so I guess I could be wrong. I was just really surprised that Ron and Fez were still working to get Dave back on the show so long after his departure, especially after hearing what Ron said on prior shows concerning Dave leaving.

Pretty cool that they held out so long. Especially Pepper who had to take most of the hit not having any help so long. Great loyalty from that kid to his buddy.

[FezIsBack]

I haven't read through all of this thread, but I'll bet it would annoy me even more if I did.
:glurps::glurps::glurps: Cry us a river...

If I was still running this place

Thank god for small favors...

For the folks who would retort with "God forbid we discuss the Ron & Fez Show on a board devoted to the Ron & Fez Show", I would say tough shit and point out that there's no such thing as freedom of speech on a privately owned message board.

Voltaire would be so proud. Also, nice straw man argument. Did you get your law degree from a box of Cracker Jack?

I guess some of you should be happy I'm not in charge anymore.

I certainly am...

[indymike]

Ronnie said they are trying to bring Dave back now.

Then why was a position for Associate Producer on R&F posted a week ago?

https://careers-siriusxm.icims.com/jobs/5425/job?sn=simplyhired

[wk3636]

Then why was a position for Associate Producer on R&F posted a week ago?

https://careers-siriusxm.icims.com/jobs/5425/job?sn=simplyhired

Because Sirius has moved on, even though Ron and Fez were still working on bringing Dave back is my guess.

[Space Edge]

Then why was a position for Associate Producer on R&F posted a week ago?

https://careers-siriusxm.icims.com/jobs/5425/job?sn=simplyhired

Because Sirius has moved on, even though Ron and Fez were still working on bringing Dave back is my guess.

They have to post the job publicly by law even if they hire within the company or hire someone else.

[Rhah]

I thought government type jobs had to do that but private companies could do whatever they want? Although I guess Sirius is public owned company but still pretty sure higher up execs just hire who the hell they want without having to post jobs (ie nepotism)... or maybe they post them in a private bathroom that nobody can see :tongue:

[Space Edge]

I thought government type jobs had to do that but private companies could do whatever they want? Although I guess Sirius is public owned company but still pretty sure higher up execs just hire who the hell they want without having to post jobs (ie nepotism)... or maybe they post them in a private bathroom that nobody can see :tongue:

I know another show on Sirius decided to hire a guy who was friends with the host but they had to publicly post the job anyway. I could be wrong but I think that's the way it goes.

[Rhah]

I guess it could just be company policy too... I was just thinking EEO type laws or something.

[NosePicker]

Just heard dave on 90.5. He sounded good.he had me laughing.its good to hear him still being a little nutty.I'm glad he is doing more than just live reads

[Lady Resin]

I'm listening also. I loved how he admitted to eating chocolate mint ice cream with meatloaf on it. He wanted to eat his meal all in one sitting.

[MobCounty]

I Don't really listen much to 202 since his departure. RnF is the best show on Air, but without dave it does not have that friggin crazy swerve that nobody could see coming. Dave is a master at not telegraphing his 'punch' and 202 is not the same without it.

Thanks for listing the new stuff, I'll check it out.

[AHerald117]

I Don't really listen much to 202 since his departure. RnF is the best show on Air, but without dave it does not have that friggin crazy swerve that nobody could see coming. Dave is a master at not telegraphing his 'punch' and 202 is not the same without it.

Thanks for listing the new stuff, I'll check it out.

I miss Dave :down:

[brilthorladros]

Ive been away for a while and now there is no ESD! Did Fez drive him away?

[PapaBear]

Ive been away for a while and now there is no ESD! Did Fez drive him away?
He wasn't making enough money, and the money people at Sirius wouldn't approve a raise. His new digs are found with this thread merge. He's still doing Special Delivery on Saturdays.

[DOHO@HOME]

Why don't they have him in as a guest or sit in like HTG?

[OGC]

Why don't they have him in as a guest or sit in like HTG?


why would Dave make the (expensive) 2 hour commute (each way) so that he could sit in for free, when he came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it when he was getting paid ?

[ozzie]

why would Dave make the (expensive) 2 hour commute (each way) so that he could sit in for free, when he came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it when he was getting paid ?

Exactly. Why give away your on air talent to Sirius for free?

If they want him on air, let them fucking pay him for his time and travel expenses.

I wouldn't even call in if I were Dave (which, as far as I know, he hasn't). No offense to the buddays, of course, but fuck those cheapskate suit pricks.