Why all the anti-HTG sentiment?

[dommer]

In the listening threads it's become en vogue to shit on HTG. I'm left wondering, "why all the hate"? Sure, she's one of those people that acts like the rest of the country outside of NY is living in 1962, but other than that, she's interesting, eloquent, and opinionated. She can carry on a conversation with Ron on a number of topics.

She's everything Fez isn't. Without her, what is the show? Or put another way, would you prefer to hear Fez's inane lists and studies, or his daily elevator neuroticisms? How about an hour of Fez sobbing while callers alternate between support/advice and insults? Seriously, consider the alternative.

[Serpico1103]

In the listening threads it's become en vogue to shit on HTG. I'm left wondering, "why all the hate"? Sure, she's one of those people that acts like the rest of the country outside of NY is living in 1962, but other than that, she's interesting, eloquent, and opinionated. She can carry on a conversation with Ron on a number of topics.

She's everything Fez isn't. Without her, what is the show? Or put another way, would you prefer to hear Fez's inane lists and studies, or his daily elevator neuroticisms? How about an hour of Fez sobbing while callers alternate between support/advice and insults? Seriously, consider the alternative.

Unfortunately, she is put in the 2nd mic position. She knows she isn't good at it, but with Fez handing over 2nd mic to anyone who walks near the studio, that is her role. She is ok on the air, but Ron deserves better for a 2nd mic.

Has anyone thought about bringing ESD back?

[Melk]

I agree that the HTG hate is displaced. But I prefer the Fez drama to HTG any day of the week.

[instrument]

If fez is the truth bomber htg is the truth dirty bomber...not much comedy coming from her.

[thepaulo]

need comedy....I am on life support and without more comedy I will die.

[n0thng2bdone]

i like the common sense she dispenses with the urgency of an original thought

[sailor]

a: vagina

[oPant]

Because she's not good on the air. She's a hole and she's not funny.

[Barnaby Jones]

need comedy....I am on life support and without more comedy I will die.

LESS COMEDY, PLEASE.

[Crispy123]

I agree that the HTG hate is displaced. But I prefer the Fez drama to HTG any day of the week.

this for me

[OGC]

I love the way she is on the air.

Sure the conversations are different when she is there but different is good at times. I wouldn't want her to be a permanent feature on the show but once in a while is great.

[Pittsburgh]

Lawyer talk.

[Pittsburgh]

Although I do think the tags are a bit harsh.

[Hottub]

What a bunch of dicks.

[boobieman]

I think HTG is ok...just she is a lawyer, and she does not really show sexuality unless she is killing bees..then she is a coke whore porn star...HOT

SSSYEYYAAAAAASSEAAA

[dommer]

Who gives a shit that she's a lawyer? Why is that even an argument against her?

[Melk]

Love HTG
Love Ron
Love Fez and his weird problems.

[aceofspades7]

I like HTG

[Furtherman]

Lonely guys jealous of her in with the show, as well as smarts. Pathetic, really.

[Hottub]

Although I do think the tags are a bit harsh.

This

[Dude!]

misogyny and antisemitism

[JPMNICK]

i think she does a good job on the show. she is obviously not radio trained, but she is smart and does add a different perspective on certain topics.

[Furtherman]

This

Do something about it... oh wait...

[boobieman]

Who gives a shit that she's a lawyer? Why is that even an argument against her?

Because normally lawyers suck the fun out of everything. Reason why no tits on 202 is because lawyers..reason why spinning the hits is a no no is because lawyers...reason why no 55 drum challenges is gone is because lawyers....reason why ESD is not on the show because they can't pay him more because he is a producer and if they did pay him more another producer might make a claim and use a lawyer to compensate. LAWYERS NORMALLY SUCK.

That is why I used the point...now go get a lawyer and complain.


SSYSYEYAYAAAAAAAAAAAA

[BOBCAT]

Because she sucks, and she should not be on the air. All she is, is an attention whore. The whole PAC thing was a sham for attention. It's all about her.

Ron just wants to bang her, Fez just wants someone else to talk.

I have to turn it off when I hear her manly voice.

It's gotten to the point that she is on so much lately, I don't even turn it on.

She is going to love this thread, more attention for her.

[Furtherman]

Yea, you're a even bigger dickhead then you let on yesterday.


Enough of this. She's contributing to the show. What have you losers done lately?

[A.J.]

We decided to reopen this thread with the following caveat: posters can comment about why they do or why they don't like HTG on the show. However, she IS still a member of this board and personal attacks against her will not be allowed.

[JimBeam]

I don't have an issue w/ her personally but I don't look forward to her appearances in any way.

It's like they consult w/ her as if she has some expert opinion on things when most of the time she just has an opinion, like any of us would have.

I was annoyed a few weeks ago when it seemed like she was pushing Fez's buttons to win favor w/ Ron.

At least that's how I took it

[danlaroe]

if htg is on its great..because then ron and fez are on....shut the fuck up you whining fags...

[StanUpshaw]

HTG hates science.

[ChrisBrown]

I don't dislike HTG but I do think she keeps the show too serious when she is on. After dealing with Fez's issues, I like comic relief. It's a tough transition going from Fez's rants against god knows what followed by the fight with the callers, tears, excuses that he is having a bad day because the elevator scared him, etc. to HTG talking very seriously and lawyerlike. She is obviously very bright and probably a perfectly decent person. It doesn't help that her impressive intellect and status makes her un-mockable. I think picking people off the street and putting them in front of a mic works better when Ron can make fools of them like he does with Big A, Crazed, Tommy Z, Gvac, Mikeyboy (just joshing about about that last one)

[disneyspy]

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[ChrisBrown]

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now it works

[disneyspy]

now it works

haha,i didnt do anything

[Dudeman]

I don't dislike HTG but I do think she keeps the show too serious when she is on. After dealing with Fez's issues, I like comic relief. It's a tough transition going from Fez's rants against god knows what followed by the fight with the callers, tears, excuses that he is having a bad day because the elevator scared him, etc. to HTG talking very seriously and lawyerlike. She is obviously very bright and probably a perfectly decent person. It doesn't help that her impressive intellect and status makes her un-mockable. I think picking people off the street and putting them in front of a mic works better when Ron can make fools of them like he does with Big A, Crazed, Tommy Z, Gvac, Mikeyboy (just joshing about about that last one)

Ie. tell a joke or be the joke.

[Sinestro]

Yea because she Yelps too much. We get it. You can afford to eat out and go to nice places.:wink:

[ChrisBrown]

Ie. tell a joke or be the joke.

exactly

[Mitch&Murray]

Personal attack.

[Jayw]

I love my HTC.

[spoon]

Ie. tell a joke or be the joke.

If only people would put more weight on this crutch. what!?

[Mitch&Murray]

If only people would put more weight on this crutch. what!?


I also love the mentality here that when Ron says something idiotic once in a while Its only a bit for the show.
Like Ron is such a demigod that he can't possibly say something ridiculous occasionally

[Sinestro]

Shhhhh!!!! She's reading this thread right now.:unsure:

[ScottFromGA]

she was always rude to me in the Ron and Fez paltalk room.

no seriously, she did more to turn me against the show than help me like it.

[Sinestro]

she was always rude to me in the Ron and Fez paltalk room.

no seriously, she did more to turn me against the show than help me like it.

So she's not always Happytypinggirl. I see.

[ScottFromGA]

oh she's happy....just not doing a good job at being welcoming to fans of the show and being more of the "Paltalk Celebrity", which is just silly.

I know most are gonna say, "It's not her job to do that." Well...her name is constantly being thrown out and shes on the show at times. Nuff said...

[Tenbatsuzen]

Personal attack.

CENSORSHIP!

[DoomVulture]

Seems like neither Ron or Fez even want to do the show anymore. Bringing HTG in just seems like a way to fill time

[Pittsburgh]

Would it be a personal attack if I said she smelled funny?


What if I said she smelled bad?

[Pittsburgh]

And again, what's with the tag?

[Sinestro]

Would it be a personal attack if I said she smelled funny?


What if I said she smelled bad?

Are you sure it isn't you? I didn't know you can smell people through the radio. What type of device do you have?:lol:

[Sinestro]

And again, what's with the tag?

Yeah. Is that really true? Otherwise Ron's appendix wouldn't have burst. :devil2:

[Pittsburgh]

Are you sure it isn't you? I didn't know you can smell people through the radio. What type of device do you have?:lol:

That wasn't the question.

[Sinestro]

That wasn't the question.

The answer to your question is "Yes" that it may be construed as a personal attack and may be interpreted offensive by the mods or powers that be. Matlock 101.

[Sinestro]

Debbie Deb!:bye:

[Lady Resin]

That tag sucks. Leave her be. Yeesh. To many newbies being harsh. When she's on turn it off if you don't like her. No wonder the real fans left this board. I'd like to see you haters walk into the studio and help Ron out.

:edit: Thank you deleting that tag.

[Death Metal Moe]

I don't hate HTG on the show but she's not always very interesting. I know Ron decides who goes on the air but I don't agree with all his decisions. I also realize he's trying to fill the void Fez leaves and that can be tough.

I guess she's as hit or miss as just about any other guest Ron and Fez have in, it's just that she's more constant so you have other appearances to judge the them all against.

[JimBeam]

When she's on turn it off if you don't like her.

The problem is I find myself doing that too often on a show that I love.

I guess she's as hit or miss as just about any other guest Ron and Fez have in, it's just that she's more constant so you have other appearances to judge the them all against.

But I don't ever have a problem w/ most of the " regular " callers that are brought in to fill time.

And this line that a few have used along the lines of " hey at least she's doing something, what have you done " is simply ridiculous.

I'm sure any number of posters on here could sit in a chair and answer questions/give their opinion on topics and be as interesting as her if not better.

She's not curing cancer or raising a house full of orphans as far as I know so enough of the " what have you done " nonsense.

[sailor]

That tag sucks. Leave her be. Yeesh. To many newbies being harsh. When she's on turn it off if you don't like her. No wonder the real fans left this board. I'd like to see you haters walk into the studio and help Ron out.

:edit: Thank you deleting that tag.

You're not a real fan?

[foodcourtdruide]

The problem is I find myself doing that too often on a show that I love.



But I don't ever have a problem w/ most of the " regular " callers that are brought in to fill time.

And this line that a few have used along the lines of " hey at least she's doing something, what have you done " is simply ridiculous.

I'm sure any number of posters on here could sit in a chair and answer questions/give their opinion on topics and be as interesting as her if not better.

She's not curing cancer or raising a house full of orphans as far as I know so enough of the " what have you done " nonsense.

I agree with this. I'm not quite sure why having an opinion on the show has to be qualified with your contributions to the show. I don't hate HTG or think she's a bad person, but I don't think she fits in with the show for the same reasons many in this thread have said. Having said that, there's no reason for anyone to be rude to her or take personal shots.

It's funny that this board always gets called a negative board and I've heard the "this is why the regulars left" message before, but as far as messageboards go this discussion has been incredibly civil.

[Contra]

Wow, this thread seems oddly familiar. Its almost like there was another poster from this board that ended up becoming part of the show, and there were entire threads dedicated to people saying how much they hated that person on the air. Damn, what was their name? I'm having trouble remembering....

[sailor]

Wow, this thread seems oddly familiar. Its almost like there was another poster from this board that ended up becoming part of the show, and there were entire threads dedicated to people saying how much they hated that person on the air. Damn, what was their name? I'm having trouble remembering....

Fuck Mikey.

[Arch Stanton]

She has always been very cool to me. Glad I have gotten to know her over the years.

[Goatweed]

if htg is on its great..because then ron and fez are on....shut the fuck up you whining fags...hiya pal! :bye:

[disneyspy]

hiya pal! :bye:

as nice as you are to that prick,he never responds to a hello

[Goatweed]

as nice as you are to that prick,he never responds to a hellothat's ok, he bought me a beer once :drunk:

[spoon]

The problem is I find myself doing that too often on a show that I love.



But I don't ever have a problem w/ most of the " regular " callers that are brought in to fill time.

And this line that a few have used along the lines of " hey at least she's doing something, what have you done " is simply ridiculous.

I'm sure any number of posters on here could sit in a chair and answer questions/give their opinion on topics and be as interesting as her if not better.

She's not curing cancer or raising a house full of orphans as far as I know so enough of the " what have you done " nonsense.

I agree with this. I'm not quite sure why having an opinion on the show has to be qualified with your contributions to the show. I don't hate HTG or think she's a bad person, but I don't think she fits in with the show for the same reasons many in this thread have said. Having said that, there's no reason for anyone to be rude to her or take personal shots.

It's funny that this board always gets called a negative board and I've heard the "this is why the regulars left" message before, but as far as messageboards go this discussion has been incredibly civil.

I agree on both posts here. Ron also makes or breaks a guest. If he's into you or finds you useful you'll go over, if not, you're going to look the fool. It's not easy to battle his wit, let alone in his house so saying let's see you do it is comical. He didn't shine to a few and it was easily heard, while others who are NOT good radio he had fun with and they end up being ok on the air. He not only decides the show's flow, but how each guest goes over on air. If Lleeder was more willing to "be the joke", I'm sure he would have been around longer, more involved and not such a train wreck.

[joeybags]

if htg is on its great..because then ron and fez are on....shut the fuck up you whining fags...

time for some laroe elbow smashes

[spoon]

Wow, this thread seems oddly familiar. Its almost like there was another poster from this board that ended up becoming part of the show, and there were entire threads dedicated to people saying how much they hated that person on the air. Damn, what was their name? I'm having trouble remembering....

I think their respective routes to involvement on the show has been quite different, as well as their contributions. If I heard correctly, some good friendships have been all but destroyed by some betrayals involving HTG, yet it's not my place to put it all out there. That's up to HTG and the others involved, but the details are quite sad if true. Who knows? Yet I'm not one to give two fucks if I'm entertained, but I'm not so sure having someone preach to me their values or lack there of is entertaining.

To each their own as it's said, but I'm always at a loss how some involved in the show have actual jobs and can be in studio in the middle of the day all the time and constantly on the show. Aren't MB and HTG lawyers? I have to think they're trust fund kids or something bc they surely don't work much. My business, not so much, but it's really odd when adults play like kids and pine for attention/constant involvement on a show.

[Sleeves]

I like her. I met her once. I don't know her other than listening to the show. She's definitely not a comedian, but I have no problem listening to her and Ron talk about whatever. She makes good points as far my limited sense of the universe.

She's kind of like the Anti-East Side Dave. I loved Dave and HTG works for me too...

[Goatweed]

time for some laroe elbow smashes
before or after the beers on his dime?

[Zorro]

HTG :thumbup:

[CountryBob]

I think she's a good egg!

[K.C.]

Bringing HTG in just seems like a way to fill time

http://www.matsugov.us/planning/images/stories/planning/blueribbon.jpg


The extended version of that is that with Dave gone, and Fez's status varying on a day to day basis, they don't really do a show anymore (at least in the matter they use to). And as Ron has said in the past, he doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks about what happens on the show, so he trots her out when ever he feels the need to.

[K.C.]

Wow, this thread seems oddly familiar. Its almost like there was another poster from this board that ended up becoming part of the show, and there were entire threads dedicated to people saying how much they hated that person on the air. Damn, what was their name? I'm having trouble remembering....

Yeah....about that....Dave is funny.

[Crispy123]

I don't mind hearing her on the air, I think she interacts well on the show. Except when it comes to the siren series, she is the worst moderator ever. Apple cinnamon is a discontinued flavor of pop-tart, Fez should have totally won!

[PD]

I don't understand the relevance of the "I met her once and she was nice" comments.
I have no personal issues with her- yes, she has always been nice to me in person.
That doesn't mean I want to hear her on air.

in the past she would show up every so often, maybe as often as Mikeyboy. That was fine. Now, without dave, she is called in to fill time, and its not entertaining to me.
Like many things, her opinion in small doses can be fine, or even good, but in large doses it's poison (to my ears).

The Ron & Fez circa 2001 was great. The Ron & Fez circa 2006 was very good- and with ESD in 2007 & 2008 it was must hear at times. Now after dave left, with fez still not back to his old ways, it's something I check out and maybe stay with, maybe not.

That isn't Deb's fault but her appearances do not help (my opinion)

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't understand the relevance of the "I met her once and she was nice" comments.
I have no personal issues with her- yes, she has always been nice to me in person.
That doesn't mean I want to hear her on air.

in the past she would show up every so often, maybe as often as Mikeyboy. That was fine. Now, without dave, she is called in to fill time, and its not entertaining to me.
Like many things, her opinion in small doses can be fine, or even good, but in large doses it's poison (to my ears).

The Ron & Fez circa 2001 was great. The Ron & Fez circa 2006 was very good- and with ESD in 2007 & 2008 it was must hear at times. Now after dave left, with fez still not back to his old ways, it's something I check out and maybe stay with, maybe not.

That isn't Deb's fault but her appearances do not help (my opinion)

2x for me

[thepaulo]

there is an answer if you will only see

[Sinestro]

I'd do her. Just saying.

[biozombie]

She saved the b-b-b-b-b-boys from getting fired, bunch of haters around here anymore.

[ScottFromGA]

She saved the b-b-b-b-b-boys from getting fired, bunch of haters around here anymore.

no...she didn't.

[biozombie]

no...she didn't.

Go drink an Orange Hater-aid.

[spainlinx0]

I already said this in another thread, but my distaste stems from stuff like this:

I had been in the Paltalk room she "ran" a few years ago on some of my days off, and I thought she was one of the most obnoxious and conceited people I had ever heard speak.

Miss Free Speech banned some girl from her room for having a screen name too similar to her. I asked why the girl got booted, and when that was the reason given I was shocked. Then I was threatened with banishment for questioning the rationale.

I know Paltalk means nothing, and it seems petty to judge someone on that, but that incident has still stuck with me, and I remember it every time I hear her on the air, and I can't help but dislike her. She always seems very fake to me.

[biozombie]

Thankfully, we still haved freedom of speech, thank Deb you ingrates. Cum.

[Goatweed]

excellent tags!

[LordJezo]

She mentioned her bra size once on the air. Does anyone remember what it is?

[K.C.]

Ron brings her on like she's the czar of free speech and arbiter of all that is right and wrong in the world of freedom of expression and the group doesn't even exist anymore (see website link above).

In fact did they even do ANYTHING outside of some retarded YouTube videos of pests smashing radios and a couple O&A related protests?

Maybe they did Imus stuff...I don't remember.

I'd be fine with it if she was on the show maybe once a month. But the verbal narcissism of a Ron/HTG discussion is cringy (and not in a cringe humor fashion).

I get the show is grasping with Dave gone, when Fez shows up unfit for work on any particular day, but please grasp in another direction a little more.

[dommer]

I like her. I met her once. I don't know her other than listening to the show. She's definitely not a comedian, but I have no problem listening to her and Ron talk about whatever. She makes good points as far my limited sense of the universe.

She's kind of like the Anti-East Side Dave. I loved Dave and HTG works for me too...

I disagree with you. Your sense of the universe is without limit.

[Furtherman]

The anger here shows some deep insecurities. As if Ron is friends with a mosque. Instead of letting it be or, incredibly, showing that R&F fans can be better than fans of other shows, some choose to explain in long diatribes about why they don't like someone's opinion, who by Ron's own choice, is helping the show. As if any of you would do the same and have an adoring fan base and Ron's respect.

[Sinestro]

This thread is going to go Mega!





unless it's locked.

[brettmojo]

Seems like neither Ron or Fez even want to do the show anymore. Bringing HTG in just seems like a way to fill time
Yeah lets hear more breaks on "Hey callers call in with your favorite "insert situation here" songs or movies or artists etc. etc. etc...

[Sinestro]

Yeah lets hear more breaks on "Hey callers call in with your favorite "insert situation here" songs or movies or artists etc. etc. etc...

Fist pump! Woot woot!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ron brings her on like she's the czar of free speech and arbiter of all that is right and wrong in the world of freedom of expression and the group doesn't even exist anymore (see website link above).

That's one thing about her that always amused me. She was hyping a big TV appearance she was doing and I asked her opinion about some controversial video game and she had no idea what I was talking about.

[Sinestro]

That's one thing about her that always amused me. She was hyping a big TV appearance she was doing and I asked her opinion about some controversial video game and she had no idea what I was talking about.

Mortal Kombat? Nighttrap? Duke Nukem? E.T. 2600?

[Sinestro]

That's one thing about her that always amused me. She was hyping a big TV appearance she was doing and I asked her opinion about some controversial video game and she had no idea what I was talking about.

She did look lovely with her pearl necklace though.

[Tenbatsuzen]

E.T. 2600?

I'm sure she's fallen into a pit and chased around by a blocky dude in a trenchcoat once or twice

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm sure she's fallen into a pit and chased around by a blocky dude in a trenchcoat once or twice

I was gonna say "I'd like to bury her in the desert and forget about her" but it just seemed mean.

[Sinestro]

I was gonna say "I'd like to bury her in the desert and forget about her" but it just seemed mean.

I'd like to bury her in dessert and lick her up....but that's just me.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Mortal Kombat? Nighttrap? Duke Nukem? E.T. 2600?

I'm not sure if it was here or somewhere else, but i'm pretty sure it was GTA4 and something to do with Jack Thompson.

[Flea_Man]

I think I should be a guest.

[3Setsof10]

I'm amazed they haven't done a Bed In like John and Yoko did since Ron's laid up this week

Where's LaRoe the punching bag? LOL

[Sue_Bender]

I think I should be a guest.

At least you'd know whether to tell a joke or be one.

[spoon]

Go drink an Orange Hater-aid.

ok stewart

:wallbash:

[A.J.]

in the past she would show up every so often, maybe as often as Mikeyboy.

Also in the past, Silera was on quite a bit too. But I suppose work and family responsibilities have made her less available and so HTG fills that void. I don't know -- just a guess.

She mentioned her bra size once on the air. Does anyone remember what it is?

Your consistency continues to amaze.

[foodcourtdruide]

The anger here shows some deep insecurities. As if Ron is friends with a mosque. Instead of letting it be or, incredibly, showing that R&F fans can be better than fans of other shows, some choose to explain in long diatribes about why they don't like someone's opinion, who by Ron's own choice, is helping the show. As if any of you would do the same and have an adoring fan base and Ron's respect.

I simply don't understand this mentality. 99% of the comments in this thread that are negative towards HTG are prefaced with something like, "she seems like a nice person, but..." Where is this anger you're seeing?

[Furtherman]

I simply don't understand this mentality. 99% of the comments in this thread that are negative towards HTG are prefaced with something like, "she seems like a nice person, but..." Where is this anger you're seeing?


There.

It's the passive aggressive bullshit.

[Misteriosa]

while i dont agree with some of HTG's points or opinions, its nice to hear conversation on the show that does not sound forced, is not set around gay rights issues, are not crying spells or therapy sessions triggered by normal human interaction . :down:

[foodcourtdruide]

There.

It's the passive aggressive bullshit.

It's not passive-aggressive. I think people are trying to be respectful of HTG, someone they know may read threads on this messageboard, while trying to voice their opinion regarding the show.

Why should we all just simply always love and support every decision made on the show? If we don't like something, why isn't it seen as fan feedback, instead of some form of nefarious negativity? There's a fine line between criticism and bashing.

[ChrisBrown]

There.

It's the passive aggressive bullshit.

I don't see "nothing personal against HTG but I prefer not to hear her on the air" as passive aggressive.

[RoseBlood]

It's not passive-aggressive.

I don't see "nothing personal against HTG but I prefer not to hear her on the air" as passive aggressive.

Agreed
Passive-aggressive people tend to preface their questions or statements with an apology.

ie.. "Maybe I should not say this but..." which reflects insecurities in their statements.

[Furtherman]

It's not passive-aggressive. I think people are trying to be respectful of HTG, someone they know may read threads on this messageboard, while trying to voice their opinion regarding the show.

Why should we all just simply always love and support every decision made on the show? If we don't like something, why isn't it seen as fan feedback, instead of some form of nefarious negativity? There's a fine line between criticism and bashing.

There is plently of bashing and it's just not warranted - after all, it's Ron that brings her on the show. If you find fault with it, it's his, not hers. I'm not even defending anything she's said, just that she's been invited on to help the show, which it clearly needs. Don't like the help? You have to tell the boss.

while i dont agree with some of HTG's points or opinions, its nice to hear conversation on the show that does not sound forced, is not set around gay rights issues, are not crying spells or therapy sessions triggered by normal human interaction . :down:

Well said!



Edit: and HELLO RoseBlood, where have you been?

[Ham N Egger]

i like the common sense she dispenses with the urgency of an original thought

This.

She may be intelligent and/or insightful, but I don't think I've heard that demonstrated on the show once yet.

She hasn't shown a challenging opinion or unique view on anything talked about since she's become a "regular" on the show, and frankly it makes for a pretty boring listen. And perhaps boring becomes maddening when it is obvious she's only there because she's a friend of the show/Ron and not because it's anything close to good radio.

And this isn't from a place of hate or jealousy or any of that bullshit. I have zero knowledge of HTG outside of hearing her on the show. In any case, I guess you can't really blame her - she was asked to come on and she has. I don't hear her claiming to be a radio personality or anything.

[A.J.]

. And perhaps boring becomes maddening when it is obvious she's only there because she's a friend of the show/Ron and not because it's anything close to good radio.

Well...can't the same be said of most of the regular guests?

[Ham N Egger]

Are there any other regular guests that come on with the frequency that HTG does? It's not like she pops in once a month.

[foodcourtdruide]

Well...can't the same be said of most of the regular guests?

Like who? Mikey Boy? He's rarely on the show. Other regular guests (for example, gbaby) add another element to the show outside their personality.

[foodcourtdruide]

There is plently of bashing and it's just not warranted - after all, it's Ron that brings her on the show. If you find fault with it, it's his, not hers. I'm not even defending anything she's said, just that she's been invited on to help the show, which it clearly needs. Don't like the help? You have to tell the boss.





I'm not blaming her, and I think it's great that she's trying to help the show. I just don't think it works.

I love my wife very much, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like her as 3rd mic on the Ron and Fez show. Does that mean I'm negative or harbor some type of resentment towards her?

[A.J.]

Are there any other regular guests that come on with the frequency that HTG does? It's not like she pops in once a month.

Like who? Mikey Boy? He's rarely on the show. Other regular guests (for example, gbaby) add another element to the show outside their personality.

Well, I think part of the hate against her is because she's on so frequently.

Personally, I was never a big fan of FFB and MLC being on the show. And Crazed visits were like "pick on the half-wit" which was more Stern's schtick. But it's R&F's show and they can invite whomever they want to invite.

[Furtherman]

I'm not blaming her, and I think it's great that she's trying to help the show. I just don't think it works.

I love my wife very much, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like her as 3rd mic on the Ron and Fez show. Does that mean I'm negative or harbor some type of resentment towards her?

Yes, you have been civil in your opinion.


And yes, you hate your wife. For shame. :nono:

[JimBeam]

The anger here shows some deep insecurities. As if Ron is friends with a mosque. Instead of letting it be or, incredibly, showing that R&F fans can be better than fans of other shows, some choose to explain in long diatribes about why they don't like someone's opinion, who by Ron's own choice, is helping the show. As if any of you would do the same and have an adoring fan base and Ron's respect.

But is it really Ron who decides what's best on the show ?

Maybe from a topics/outline of the daily show perspective but it's us, the listeners, that decide what we want to listen to no ?

Nobody has suggested boycotting when she's on but simply have stated that they do not enjoy the times when she's on the air.

Seems like a completely reasonable opinion.

I personally used to like Jay Mohr but then when I used to hear him on the radio a lot ( back when I used to listen to O&A years ago ) I grew tired of him.

I've since heard him recently on R&F, as well as in replays, and have loved his visits.

I think pretending we like something just because Ron does or not saying it because it's not what Ron would agree with makes us very dangerously like the toolbags that love Stern no matter how awful he is.

[Furtherman]

But is it really Ron who decides what's best on the show ?


Yes, he does. His show.

[JimBeam]

Much like Stern's old slot was David Lee Roth's show.

In the end if you do something to push away your listeners, especially paying listerners, you won't be around long.

I'm not in any way saying that this could/should happen or that HTG's presence on the show is in any way that polarizing but let's be reasonable and understand that a host can't just do anything they want.

Made relevant by the fact that Ron calls those guys his " boss ".

If he was as ego centric as you make him sound he'd never refer to them like that.

[Furtherman]

If he was as ego centric as you make him sound he'd never refer to them like that.

I don't make him sound ego centric at all. I'm simply saying he calls the shots on who he wants to bring on.

[JimBeam]

In the end it's like many have suggested.

If you don't like what's on at that time just change the channel.

[boobieman]

I think the whole Anti-HTG is that she does not kill Bees in her panties anymore....I mean when you got a good thing going don't RRRUIN IT.

Just get back and healthy Mr. B

SSSEYYAYAYYAAAAA

[Hepcat22]

I like HTG. Don't see what the fuss is about.

[PatFromMoonachie]

I like HTG. Don't see what the fuss is about.

X's 2

[Sue_Bender]

X's 2

Oh, you sexy mush!

[CountryBob]

I think the whole Anti-HTG is that she does not kill Bees in her panties anymore....I mean when you got a good thing going don't RRRUIN IT.

Just get back and healthy Mr. B

SSSEYYAYAYYAAAAA

I have never heard this expression before and really dont know weather to laugh or be happy for the bees that have survived:unsure:

[boobieman]

I have never heard this expression before and really dont know weather to laugh or be happy for the bees that have survived:unsure:

No the bee was sucked up in a vaccum...there is video of it somewhere on paltalk....

I would say laugh..but then again...

SSSYYEYYAAAA

[NewYorkDragons80]

I love my wife very much, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like her as 3rd mic on the Ron and Fez show. Does that mean I'm negative or harbor some type of resentment towards her?

Only if your assessment of her starts with "I love my wife, but..."

My problem with HTG's on-air persona is that she can't commit to a viewpoint. I've even heard her compromise on *censorship* on the show before :blink: . There are a host of listeners who I'd prefer to hear over her. I disagree with Missy on almost everything she says, but she's hilarious, genuinely opinionated (not frantically searching for one mid-debate), and entertaining as hell. So this isn't a misogynist thing, or an anti-Semitic thing, as so many of her defenders rush to say, it's an entertainment thing. Unless she sticks to her guns and can be comfortable being made fun of by anyone other than Ron, she'll remain uninteresting and unfunny.

I don't make him sound ego centric at all. I'm simply saying he calls the shots on who he wants to bring on.

Are you suggesting, though, that the listening audience is obligated to endorse his calls whatever they might be?

[foodcourtdruide]

Only if your assessment of her starts with "I love my wife, but..."

My problem with HTG's on-air persona is that she can't commit to a viewpoint. I've even heard her compromise on *censorship* on the show before :blink: . There are a host of listeners who I'd prefer to hear over her. I disagree with Missy on almost everything she says, but she's hilarious, genuinely opinionated (not frantically searching for one mid-debate), and entertaining as hell. So this isn't a misogynist thing, or an anti-Semitic thing, as so many of her defenders rush to say, it's an entertainment thing. Unless she sticks to her guns and can be comfortable being made fun of by anyone other than Ron, she'll remain uninteresting and unfunny.





All that may be true, but I wouldn't mind her opinions if there was some sort of comedic aspect to her appearances on the show. I just don't understand it. It's like if Seinfeld had a 5th main cast member that was well-rounded and tried to make logical arguments in a non-comedic way. It just doesn't fit.

[Furtherman]

Are you suggesting, though, that the listening audience is obligated to endorse his calls whatever they might be?

No. I'm suggesting that she's really not on that much, she's there as Ron's guest, she's helping out in a time of need, and any anti-HTG sentiment, as the thread title suggests, is lame nitpicking.

[spoon]

Only if your assessment of her starts with "I love my wife, but..."

My problem with HTG's on-air persona is that she can't commit to a viewpoint. I've even heard her compromise on *censorship* on the show before :blink: . There are a host of listeners who I'd prefer to hear over her. I disagree with Missy on almost everything she says, but she's hilarious, genuinely opinionated (not frantically searching for one mid-debate), and entertaining as hell. So this isn't a misogynist thing, or an anti-Semitic thing, as so many of her defenders rush to say, it's an entertainment thing. Unless she sticks to her guns and can be comfortable being made fun of by anyone other than Ron, she'll remain uninteresting and unfunny.



Are you suggesting, though, that the listening audience is obligated to endorse his calls whatever they might be?

You nailed it on Missy, she's genuine with no ulterior motives. Always a good time chatting with her, unless Jeff interupts...asshole!

[spoon]

There is plently of bashing and it's just not warranted - after all, it's Ron that brings her on the show. If you find fault with it, it's his, not hers. I'm not even defending anything she's said, just that she's been invited on to help the show, which it clearly needs. Don't like the help? You have to tell the boss.



Well said!



Edit: and HELLO RoseBlood, where have you been?

That's ur opinion Fman, not fact. HTG can be on the show and be beyond reproach I guess bc it's not her show? Sorry, you're defending too much here. She seemingly has no problem voicing her ops on Pal Talk based on posts here, so who gives a fuck if people do here. Oh I get it, she doesn't have enough "status" to simply ban/bump people from the site here bc it's more open to debate. Sorry, it's not passive aggressive to say you don't think she's a cool person but sucks on the air. It means you like her in person but NOT ON THE AIR.

[spoon]

while i dont agree with some of HTG's points or opinions, its nice to hear conversation on the show that does not sound forced, is not set around gay rights issues, are not crying spells or therapy sessions triggered by normal human interaction . :down:

So HTG commenting on set topics is less forced than someone actually dealing with an issue live? I don't get that one. Perhaps you mean ur sick of Fez's issues, but it's surely not FORCED for the good of the show.

[Furtherman]

That's ur opinion Fman

That it is.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I disagree with Missy on almost everything she says... So this isn't... an anti-Semitic thing

Just to preempt any comments, I know Missy isn't Jewish.

[spoon]

Just to preempt any comments, I know Missy isn't Jewish.

She fucks a dirty one...or at least used to. :innocent:

[Ralph]

She says absolutly nothing in that mind numbing monotone man voice, and then she laughs after after every statement.

[A.J.]

she's there as Ron's guest

Again, this is the main point. She's not there to be a 3rd mic. She's not obliged to be funny or anything else. They invite her in simply as a guest.

[foodcourtdruide]

Again, this is the main point. She's not there to be a 3rd mic. She's not obliged to be funny or anything else. They invite her in simply as a guest.

When she's on the show, she is the second mic. I do not blame her for this, but it is what happens. She literally plays second banana only to Ron. I mean that. Literally. She dresses as a banana and everything, it's fucked up.

[StanUpshaw]

Again, this is the main point. She's not there to be a 3rd mic. She's not obliged to be funny or anything else. They invite her in simply as a guest.

Yeah, dummies. It's right there in the bylaws of your Ron & Fez Listenership agreement. She's a guest and you're obligated to like it.

[sailor]

When she's on the show, she is the second mic. I do not blame her for this, but it is what happens. She literally plays second banana only to Ron. I mean that. Literally. She dresses as a banana and everything, it's fucked up.

It's really dumb on radio. Playing to the paltalkers once again!

[A.J.]

Yeah, dummies. It's right there in the bylaws of your Ron & Fez Listenership agreement. She's a guest and you're obligated to like it.

I'm not saying you have to like her. I'm just wondering why HTG is held to higher standards/expectations than Mikeyboy, Gvac, FFB, MLC, Franklyn, Crazed, Silera or anybody else that regularly was in studio.

[sailor]

Yeah, everyone loved FFB and Franklyn.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm not saying you have to like her. I'm just wondering why HTG is held to higher standards/expectations than Mikeyboy, Gvac, FFB, MLC, Franklyn, Crazed, Silera or anybody else that regularly was in studio.

She is on the show more than all of those people combined, except maybe Franklyn and people were pretty vocal about Franklyn. I don't think there's any mystery to this. A lot of people just don't think her personality works on the show, and she's become a major part of the show.

[StanUpshaw]

As far as I know, there's not a FuckHTGHard.com as of yet.

[Furtherman]

she's become a major part of the show.

I have no idea what show you are talking about. Major?

This is too weird.

[foodcourtdruide]

I have no idea what show you are talking about. Major?

This is too weird.

The Ron and Fez Show.

You don't think she's become a major part of the show? Since Dave left, it seems she's in studio at least once a week, often more than that. Am I wrong?

I don't recall any of the others mentioned (besides Franklyn) being in studio that often. Are you just disagreeing with this basic fact? I don't understand your comment.

[Furtherman]

You don't think she's become a major part of the show? Since Dave left, it seems she's in studio at least once a week, often more than that. Am I wrong?

No and Yes.

[foodcourtdruide]

No and Yes.

Ok, we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. There is no way on Earth that I'm going back and checking :)

[Crispy123]

Ok, we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. There is no way on Earth that I'm going back and checking :)

I don't think she's been in as much as you think. The last time she was in was because of the Unmasked. Im not sure, but did she help come up with the idea of SSHU&S, because she comes in studio for that too?

There have been a lot of best-ofs run recently, though

[A.J.]

The Ron and Fez Show.

You don't think she's become a major part of the show? Since Dave left, it seems she's in studio at least once a week, often more than that. Am I wrong?

I don't recall any of the others mentioned (besides Franklyn) being in studio that often. Are you just disagreeing with this basic fact? I don't understand your comment.

Right, as I said before I think it's because she's on so frequently that people don't like her. I mean how many times have we seen in the listening threads "Oh great, HTG is on again"?

But my other comments were in regards to those who claim she brings nothing to the show, isn't funny, whatever... Again, she's not an official member of the show -- she's a guest. So why should be expected to be those things?

[spainlinx0]

I'm not saying you have to like her. I'm just wondering why HTG is held to higher standards/expectations than Mikeyboy, Gvac, FFB, MLC, Franklyn, Crazed, Silera or anybody else that regularly was in studio.

What do you mean held to higher standards? Every single one of those people you just mentioned I enjoyed 10x more on the air than HTG. I just do not like her on the air. Even Franklyn, who I did not like, I thought was great on the air as the heel.

I don't turn the show off. I don't get mad when she's on. I listen and mostly zone out. However I'm not going to sit here and pretend that she's great on the show just because Ron brought her on. I'm not a fucking sycophant like that.

[StanUpshaw]

Right, as I said before I think it's because she's on so frequently that people don't like her. I mean how many times have we seen in the listening threads "Oh great, HTG is on again"?

But my other comments were in regards to those who claim she brings nothing to the show, isn't funny, whatever... Again, she's not an official member of the show -- she's a guest. So why should be expected to be those things?

She's taking up time on a show that is supposed to be funny, during an era that's already dreadfully lacking in funny.

[A.J.]

I don't turn the show off. I don't get mad when she's on. I listen and mostly zone out. However I'm not going to sit here and pretend that she's great on the show just because Ron brought her on. I'm not a fucking sycophant like that.

Which is what I do too with the others I mentioned, some of whom I didn't care for. I don't think HTG is great - nor do I think she's awful either.

She's taking up time on a show that is supposed to be funny, during an era that's already dreadfully lacking in funny.

Fair enough but again they choose to bring her in.

You know who I really wish would be on the show more often? Fez.

[Kevin]

You know who I really wish would be on the show more often? Fez.

Who?

[StanUpshaw]

Fair enough but again they choose to bring her in.


No doubt. I don't recall anyone claiming that she forced her way into the studio via armed assault.

That doesn't change how good or bad the show is.

[Serpico1103]

I don't hate when she is on, as long as it isn't too frequently.

I HATE when she isn't "on", but you hear her laughing through the whole show. Either be on mic or be off-air.

[parkway_jesus]

No doubt. I don't recall anyone claiming that she forced her way into the studio via armed assault.

That doesn't change how good or bad the show is.

Yah, she went another route in the end. Like virgins getting a pass by having ass sex, she found her way without having to resort to armed assault.

[Chigworthy]

Yah, she went another route in the end. Like virgins getting a pass by having ass sex, she found her way without having to resort to armed assault.

This tears it! I thought this was the lord and savior the whole time, but you used the term "ass sex". The gig is up, you impostor.

[Kevin]

This tears it! I thought this was the lord and savior the whole time, but you used the term "ass sex". The gig is up, you impostor.



He is just trying to use the new lingo in order to be popular with the young folks.

Cut him some slack, this is the most he has tried in Over 2000 years.

[PapaBear]

Parkway... Tastes like Jesus, but It's not!

[parkway_jesus]

Mr. Kevin nailed it!

Here is a picture of me now getting down with the AOL crowd.

Sorry about the quality, my dad refuses to get a digital camera.

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/bff_jesus.jpg

[JimBeam]

I was lsitening to a show from a few weeks ago when they were talking about awkward situations like having to make small talk and she was in the studio.

What bothers me about her when she's on is that she laughs at/through almost 80% of her " stories ".

Ron is constantly clowning on callers that laugh at their own jokes yet he gives her a pass.

I thought about fast forwarding past the part but I wanted to hear Ron, Fez and the callers discuss the topic.

[dommer]

Holy shit, my thread went 7 deep. That's better than I'll ever be able to do, physiological and geometric shortcomings and all. What the fuck does HTG do for a living that she's free on a regular basis from 11-3? Isn't she a lawyer? Non-practicing?

[sink]

The river runs rich with irony

[spoon]

and it flows fast too

[Kevin]

The same magical job mikeyboy has.

[sink]

and it flows fast too

You think it flows at a rate of 450/hour

[spoon]

You think it flows at a rate of 450/hour

nah, more like whatever the withdrawal from the trust fund is that day or from ron

[sink]

nah, more like whatever the withdrawal from the trust fund is that day or from ron

Probably always a fresh deposit

[spoon]

Probably always a fresh deposit

well, not so fresh

[sink]

well, not so fresh

You think he has to hold his nose?

[sailor]

seriously, knock off the personal attacks. doesn't matter if they're veiled or not.

[Melk]

I don't have a problem with HTG being on the show. She does a good job keeping pace with Ron and is generally entertaining.

I am a little concerned that some of her contributions are providing facts to the discussion yet Ron openly critizes Fez for doing the exact same thing.

[JimBeam]

I don't agree w/ the personal attacks either and I wish that while we can keep this thread open we should keep it to her on air presence.

I guess after a certain point all of what can be said has been said and it's just repeating/piling on.

One of the other things that bugs me about her on the air is her attitude.

In that same show I'm listening to they were discussing the topics of songs you like to listen to on road trips.

A caller mentions the song " Rappers' Delight " and she's like " Well I don't think that's a road song. "

The topic wasn't songs that HTG approves for you as a road song.

The caller wasn't asking for her opinion so why'd she offer it ?

Even Ron, when callers would make what he thought was a strange/unique suggestion, just kinda rolled with it.

[Melk]

In that same show I'm listening to they were discussing the topics of songs you like to listen to on road trips.

A caller mentions the song " Rappers' Delight " and she's like " Well I don't think that's a road song. "

The topic wasn't songs that HTG approves for you as a road song.

The caller wasn't asking for her opinion so why'd she offer it ?

Even Ron, when callers would make what he thought was a strange/unique suggestion, just kinda rolled with it.
I was annoyed during her discussing the idea that straight people should be able to use the word "gay" to refer to things that are less than masculine and not have homosexuals get offended by it. I just sensed the general sloppiness of the her argument as being due to her trying to to make Fez upset and not actually making her point clear.

[sink]

I like how she gives marriage and parenting advice, yet has not experienced the joy of having children or a spouse.

[A.J.]

the joy of having children or a spouse.

There's joy in that?

[ecobag2]

People are jealous of her ability to create such a cuddly personal brand.

[Melk]

People are jealous of her ability to create such a cuddly personal brand.
There is something intangible about her I enjoy. Sometimes she gets too serious when the moment doesn't require seriousness. I am not jumping on the XM202 mantra, "Women ruin radio." She has brought the show some great moments.

[Sue_Bender]

She has brought the show some great moments.

Could you list your favorites?

[Melk]

Could you list your favorites?
There was the time she told a crowd of fans what Fez was eating.
There was the time she made a comment about a drunk Dave and was called "something that rhymes with bike." I assume that was either a lesbian or jew reference, but Dave didn't specify.
There was the time she stuck up for O&A and became the media face and voice of the movement to keep them on the air. While I am not as excited about O&A as I once was, but I honestly could forgive weeks of boring radio for that one.

There are some less than savory things I associate with her, for example:
The PalTalk-era: Where both shows were endlessly distracted by the happenings in the chat rooms. But, it probably led to the PTC.
Sheepy: I really didn't enjoy hearing him on the air.

I am sure there are others.... these are the pros and cons of HTG as I see them.

[JPMNICK]

what ever happened to on air sheepy?

[Furtherman]

what ever happened to on air sheepy?

Now that is a good question. Something happened, something was quickly mentioned, and then it's never been spoken of again. I have no idea what happened, but someone knows... someone should SPILL IT!!!!!

[boobieman]

Wasn't the whole sheepy pretend to be gay or come out and make Fez do something...or I just made that all up in my head..which is sad..because that is what I made UP???

And what does any of this have to do with HTG??

I reallly need to drink more.

SSSSYEYAAAAA

[A.J.]

And what does any of this have to do with HTG??

They typically used to come into the studio together.

[Kevin]

They typically used to come into the studio together.



HTG and his other "friends" used Sheepy to get an in with the show, when that was accomplished, they tossed him aside..

I think every rational person saw that coming as it was happening..

[JPMNICK]

HTG and his other "friends" used Sheepy to get an in with the show, when that was accomplished, they tossed him aside..

I think every rational person saw that coming as it was happening..

i kind of agree with this, not that ron can only have 1 friends, but i think it would turn into a fight for attention.

[Serpico1103]

Now that is a good question. Something happened, something was quickly mentioned, and then it's never been spoken of again. I have no idea what happened, but someone knows... someone should SPILL IT!!!!!

Fez and sheepy went on a date. Fez kissed sheepy. Fez outed sheepy on the show. Sheepy later denied he was gay.

[Furtherman]

Fez and sheepy went on a date. Fez kissed sheepy. Fez outed sheepy on the show. Sheepy later denied he was gay.

Yea?

[JPMNICK]

Yea?

i think sheepy also admitted to fez he was also gay, and then turned around and told ron fez was spreading rumors.

[Furtherman]

i think sheepy also admitted to fez he was also gay, and then turned around and told ron fez was spreading rumors.

WHAT?!

http://www.ronfez.net/gallery//watermark.php?file=3602&size=1

[JPMNICK]

WHAT?!

http://www.ronfez.net/gallery//watermark.php?file=3602&size=1

i know very hard to imagine

[NewYorkDragons80]

There was the time she made a comment about a drunk Dave and was called "something that rhymes with bike." I assume that was either a lesbian or jew reference, but Dave didn't specify.

This actually does bring a smile to my face. I'm not trying to take away from HTG, because I'd love to be proven wrong about her, but that sounds more like a good line from Dave.

There was the time she stuck up for O&A and became the media face and voice of the movement to keep them on the air. While I am not as excited about O&A as I once was, but I honestly could forgive weeks of boring radio for that one.

I don't think PAC had anything to do with them keeping their jobs. Maybe I'm just a cynic, but I doubt the company was swayed by dozens of people cancelling their subs and breaking radios.

[spoon]

Now that is a good question. Something happened, something was quickly mentioned, and then it's never been spoken of again. I have no idea what happened, but someone knows... someone should SPILL IT!!!!!

Oh it ties in nicely with the HTG rise. Perfect thread if someone wants to spell it all out. Talking off air shit has a LOT TO DO with why some are ON AIR so they are exclusive in any way. Sorry. It's not my place to spell it out, but there's a huge lack of honor/step up, kick down approach being employed. It's all but spelled out here by others, if you can't get it, I can't help you. There's a reason some are allowed to say RIDICULOUS things and others get jumped on for even trying.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Well...can't the same be said of most of the regular guests?

Not every guest bangs the host.

[NewYorkDragons80]

seriously, knock off the personal attacks. doesn't matter if they're veiled or not.

Is it a personal attack to point out someone's alleged sexual partner? I live on the other side of the planet, so I certainly don't claim to know who's sleeping with whom, but how is it insulting to anyone involved if they are? According to both of the accusees sex is not taboo, so again, how is it an attack?

[A.J.]

We decided to reopen this thread with the following caveat: posters can comment about why they do or why they don't like HTG on the show. However, she IS still a member of this board and personal attacks against her will not be allowed.

Apparently this needs repeating.

Talk about her on the show: not her personal life.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Apparently this needs repeating.

Talk about her on the show: not her personal life.

So anything discussed on ronfez.net that isn't discussed on the Ron and Fez show is an attack on that person?

[StanUpshaw]

Can you really see anyone banging Ron? He's about as ugly as a fella can be.

[Kevin]

Apparently this needs repeating.

Talk about her on the show: not her personal life.



Wait..

You mean the same person who put a cam on her room24/7 so everyone could see what see was doing...

Just so she can get on a public radio show?

THAT same person?

AJ, you know I love ya, but you are dead wrong on this issue.

When you seek publicity..


You get the good with the bad.

[A.J.]

Is it really too much to ask to keep talk about HTG limited only to her appearances on the show?

How many more people are we going to drive away from this fucking place?

[A buck 380]

Funny that the same people who hate the "pest mentality" sure seem to swoop in in similar fashion. Then want to turn things into TMZ starting rumors about people sex lives. We get it you think they are fucking how many times can the same "veiled" lines be said.

[Sinestro]

Can you really see anyone banging Ron? He's about as ugly as a fella can be.

http://www.baltimore-club.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/oh-snap.jpg
Oh no you didn't!

[NewYorkDragons80]

Is it really too much to ask to keep talk about HTG limited only to her appearances on the show?

How many more people are we going to drive away from this fucking place?

I'm not saying anybody is sleeping with anybody, but how is it attacking someone to make that claim?

[PatFromMoonachie]

I'm not saying anybody is sleeping with anybody, but how is it attacking someone to make that claim?

"Common Sense" should tell you that ..if someone was speculating about your mother/sister/daughter's sex life, would YOU consider it an attack? ..I sure would!

[Melk]

"Common Sense" should tell you that ..if someone was speculating about your mother/sister/daughter's sex life, would YOU consider it an attack? ..I sure would!Agreed. Ron has said that he prefers chatting with women to chatting with men.

I can't imagine that Ron gives HTG airtime for any reason other than he enjoys the flow of the show when she is on it.

I have to ask though, how is she affiliated with "Molly's Cupcakes?" Is she an investor?

[PatFromMoonachie]

Agreed. Ron has said that he prefers chatting with women to chatting with men.

I can't imagine that Ron gives HTG airtime for any reason other than he enjoys the flow of the show when she is on it.

I have to ask though, how is she affiliated with "Molly's Cupcakes?" Is she an investor?

I think it's been pretty well established that she's good friends with Mike Caca (Molly's owner) ..and since I don't have access to her portfolio, I couldn't tell ya anything beyond that. ..she's always promoted stuff she likes ..Paltalk, Yelp, FBA..etc. and I've always enjoyed her enthusiasm ..we need more of that crap! :smile:

[Kevin]

Agreed. Ron has said that he prefers chatting with women to chatting with men.

I can't imagine that Ron gives HTG airtime for any reason other than he enjoys the flow of the show when she is on it.



Hey Melk..

There is a real nice bridge in Brooklyn that I would like to sell to you..

I might be able to let it go for a few mil..

[A buck 380]

Hey Melk..

There is a real nice bridge in Brooklyn that I would like to sell to you..

I might be able to let it go for a few mil..

If i had to bet I'd probably agree with you. Just wonder why a bunch of guys continually talk about who's sleeping with whom. Isn't that kinda teenage girlish?

[A.J.]

I'm not saying anybody is sleeping with anybody, but how is it attacking someone to make that claim?

Because we said so.

[Kevin]

If i had to bet I'd probably agree with you. Just wonder why a bunch of guys continually talk about who's sleeping with whom. Isn't that kinda teenage girlish?



I understand what you are saying..

But that line was so wrong that I had to respond..

Melk is usualy on with his things but not here...


Undue credit always bugged me..

As you see with my Namath rants..

[Melk]

Melk is usualy on with his things but not here...

Undue credit always bugged me..
So... my giving Ronine B. and HTG the benefit of the doubt and not accusing him or her of sexual plugola (sexola?) is off target how exactly?

I honestly cannot understand the anger and jealousy that HTG provokes from the fans of The Ron and Fez Show? I wasn't a part of the PalTalk-era so I have no idea what she was doing at that time. I have never been to a Ron and Fez event, so I don't know what the behind-the-scenes politics are.

I don't understand why or how so much rage developed between people like Debbie, Fred Brooklyn, MafiaLifeChris or Franklyn and the audience.

If the mods will permit, fill me in. Or PM me.

I don't get it.

[Misteriosa]

Is it really too much to ask to keep talk about HTG limited only to her appearances on the show?

How many more people are we going to drive away from this fucking place?

it seems so.

i think everyone will be happy when .net turns into one giant politcal forum.. :down:

[Kevin]

So... my giving Ronine B. and HTG the benefit of the doubt and not accusing him or her of sexual plugola (sexola?) is off target how exactly?

I honestly cannot understand the anger and jealousy that HTG provokes from the fans of The Ron and Fez Show? I wasn't a part of the PalTalk-era so I have no idea what she was doing at that time. I have never been to a Ron and Fez event, so I don't know what the behind-the-scenes politics are.

I don't understand why or how so much rage developed between people like Debbie, Fred Brooklyn, MafiaLifeChris or Franklyn and the audience.

If the mods will permit, fill me in. Or PM me.

I don't get it.



They both can do whatever they want with their personal life..

I'm just saying she is not on for her great on air talents...

Just my opinion..

[foodcourtdruide]

Who cares who is sleeping with who? It's none of our business. Why are we talking about this?

[n0thng2bdone]

ron and fez said on the air that fez asks her to fill in for him. so that was pretty clear.

[Misteriosa]

Who cares who is sleeping with who? It's none of our business. Why are we talking about this?

thank you.

[JPMNICK]

Who cares who is sleeping with who? It's none of our business. Why are we talking about this?

exactly.

[sailor]

it seems so.

i think everyone will be happy when .net turns into one giant politcal forum.. :down:

Fuck that noise.

[sailor]

ron and fez said on the air that fez asks her to fill in for him. so that was pretty clear.

Fez's secret is... HTG?

[Crispy123]

Who cares who is sleeping with who? It's none of our business. Why are we talking about this?

suckin & fuckin :thumbup:

[Crispy123]

ron and fez said on the air that fez asks her to fill in for him. so that was pretty clear.

He was gonna ask Bruce Vilanch to fill him in but Hosp rooned it!

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/bruce-vilanch-los-angeles-premiere-of-hairspray-yORJm5.jpg

[n0thng2bdone]

He was gonna ask Bruce Vilanch to fill him in but Hosp rooned it!

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/bruce-vilanch-los-angeles-premiere-of-hairspray-yORJm5.jpg

that's a zany tee--he's a wild man!

[StanUpshaw]

Who cares who is sleeping with who? It's none of our business. Why are we talking about this?

It's not a matter of who he's sleeping with. The issue is whether or not someone is unfairly benefiting because they're sleeping with him.

Say Obama appoints one of his alabaster fuck toys to some cabinet position. Would you still say it's no one's business? Of course not.

[foodcourtdruide]

It's not a matter of who he's sleeping with. The issue is whether or not someone is unfairly benefiting because they're sleeping with him.

Say Obama appoints one of his alabaster fuck toys to some cabinet position. Would you still say it's no one's business? Of course not.

Your first sentence can only be answered with wild speculation. How do any of us know? Why even bring it up?

The only reason the Obama appointee would be our business is because it could be to the detriment of our country. We shouldn't dig into or speculate about peoples personal lives over the content of a radio show.

[Kevin]

It's not a matter of who he's sleeping with. The issue is whether or not someone is unfairly benefiting because they're sleeping with him.

.

Thank you..

Say Obama appoints one of his alabaster fuck toys to some cabinet position. Would you still say it's no one's business? Of course not.

To be fair, Obama's alabaster fuck toys would probably do a better job than some of the dolts he has in his cabinet now..

[A buck 380]

Yea I would say once an analogy is made between HTG and the PotUS some people are taking their midday comedy show too seriously.

[styckx]

Is it really too much to ask to keep talk about HTG limited only to her appearances on the show?

How many more people are we going to drive away from this fucking place?

I'm only reading here because of this thread so really it's doing this shithole a service, not a disservice.

[sailor]

I'm only reading here because of this thread so really it's doing this shithole a service, not a disservice.


Opinions vary.

[LordJezo]

This thread needs more HTG pics.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2575000129_12a1282907_m.jpg

[sink]

Opinions vary.

I'd be willing to bet he's in the majority, the rest of this place is shit.

[Kevin]

This thread needs more HTG pics.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2575000129_12a1282907_m.jpg



Did you take that from behind a garbage can near her house?

[n0thng2bdone]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R1CbBz5xPmg/SsyTQ4J7NwI/AAAAAAAAACw/RyRgQnEESS8/s400/girl-holding-cell-phone.jpg

[NewYorkDragons80]

I don't understand why or how so much rage developed between people like Debbie, Fred Brooklyn, MafiaLifeChris or Franklyn and the audience.

The only one of those people I've met was MLC and he was a perfect (albeit loud) gentleman. I have no doubt that the rest are nice people, but dogshit on-air. The only exception would be Franklyn because the seriousness with which he treated ballbusting provided endless lolz. That Rumplestiltskin motherfucker screaming "LUNACY" still echoes in my brain.

But find one instance of me or most of the people in this thread attacking *any* of these people for something other than their on-air shortcomings. Not even 10% of these grievances are rooted in jealousy, so cut that shit out right now. Aside from heeding the words of Ron and HTG that sex isn't taboo and defending people who talked about their sex life, *everything* I've said in this thread has been show-related. I haven't dealt in vagueries or broad attacks, so I'm not just critiquing her presence on the show, but specific elements of her debate skills and the fact that she is treated better than the host.

[FuntCucker]

As a fellow ELITE Yelper, I can't let anyone say anything bad about HTG. I like when she's on the show from time to time.

[brettmojo]

... Debbie, Fred Brooklyn, MafiaLifeChris or Franklyn....
One of these things is not like the others...

[Kevin]

As a fellow ELITE Yelper, I can't let anyone say anything bad about HTG. I like when she's on the show from time to time.



Wtf is an ELITE Yelper?

[brettmojo]

Wtf is an ELITE Yelper?
Twitterer>Facebooker>Foursquarer>Gluer>Yelper>Myspacer>Mexican

[Kevin]

Twitterer>Facebooker>Foursquarer>Gluer>Yelper>Myspacer>Mexican



Eww...

Thats something someone is proud of??

ELITE?

Douchy..

[FuntCucker]

Elite Yelpers get free drinks at Yelp parties. It's not a bad thing at all.

[ozzie]

Elite Yelpers get free drinks at Yelp parties. It's not a bad thing at all.

http://holycrapthatsfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/good_to_be_king.jpg

[n0thng2bdone]

http://snlparty.com/images/chris/review.jpg

Elite Yelper

[sink]

Wtf is an ELITE Yelper?

cum gargling faggot

[StanUpshaw]

http://imgur.com/BlmFf.gif

[Kevin]

cum gargling faggot



So they like ELITELY YELP when a dong is shoved up their dumpers?

[danlaroe]

i love yelp. i used it all over my vacay..its the best.
now wheres bags semen???

[Sinestro]

They should just call this the PAHTG thread.