things i hate about the show

[Adolf]

franklyn




..to be continued

[Suspect Chin]

Franklyn is a Jew...?

[fezident]

Franklyn is a Jew...?

HA!!

Lock it up.
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[rickydavis]

I hate Fez with an unhealthy passion. How is this self centered POS still on the radio? Anyone have links to contract info.?

[weav]

If you hate Fez, then why listen to the show? My god, if I was annoyed with a radio personality the way you are with Fez, I'd just stop listening.

[PapaBear]

Anyone have links to contract info.?
The details of their contract is posted on Ron's blog.

[jonyrotn]

I hate Fez with an unhealthy passion. How is this self centered POS still on the radio? Anyone have links to contract info.?

When they we're on at night back in the dotcom days my buddy used to say, "Do we have to listen to this fag I fuckin hate him?"..He never believed me when I would tell him about Fezzie's girlfriend in Niagra Falls Canada..
Fez was funny back then..
He made me laugh sometimes too..

[CruelCircus]

franklyn
..to be continued

When's the last time Franklin was on the air?

Has to be close to a year, no?

[Adolf]

i'm listening to old shows

i also hate blowhard

a lot


stay tuned for more hatred :flush:

[disneyspy]

no one gives a shit about what you hate,internet critic with issues boy

[realmenhatelife]

board characters

[rickydavis]

If you hate Fez, then why listen to the show? My god, if I was annoyed with a radio personality the way you are with Fez, I'd just stop listening.

Easy. The laughter and joy Mr. Bennington gives outweighs Fez's constant negativity.

[CountryBob]

You know, Fez used to frequent this site often but after negative posts like yours - rickydavis, he quit coming here.

Thanks for bringing back the negative - asshat!

[rickydavis]

You know, Fez used to frequent this site often but after negative posts like yours - rickydavis, he quit coming here.

Thanks for bringing back the negative - asshat!

How is Fez visiting this site a good thing? He needs to quit the radio show, not a message board. The negative? You're defending a guy who's entire radio personality has adapted to complaining. He's a misogynist and has nothing kind to say to anyone....ever. He's too selfish to think with consideration.

[CountryBob]

How is Fez visiting this site a good thing? He needs to quit the radio show, not a message board. The negative? You're defending a guy who's entire radio personality has adapted to complaining. He's a misogynist and has nothing kind to say to anyone....ever. He's too selfish to think with consideration.

Just been with him for along time - hoping he will bring it back.

[rickydavis]

Just been with him for along time - hoping he will bring it back.

That would be nice. Everyday Fez makes it painfully more obvious he isn't willing to work for change. I realize the show is all Fez has in his life and that's why he's so stubborn to give it up. I wish Fez the best, but it shouldn't destroy the show in the process. It sucks, as a fan, knowing that Fez will probably kill Ron before he kicks the bucket himself. I shouldn't expect anything else from Whatley though. He's the living definition of selfish.

[jimmyolsenblues]

The amazing part is not Fez...we know Fez will never change.
The amazing this is when ron and fez's contracts are up...ronnie will not break up the partnership with Fez.
ronnie allows Fez to do this..instead of just breaking up the partnership after this current contract ends.

[Contra]

I don't give a shit what anyone says, that cat bit today was radio gold! Fez is BACK!

[disneyspy]

I don't give a shit what anyone says, that cat bit today was radio gold! Fez is BACK!

amen

[FUCKTWATtheCLOWN]

The amazing part is not Fez...we know Fez will never change.
The amazing this is when ron and fez's contracts are up...ronnie will not break up the partnership with Fez.
ronnie allows Fez to do this..instead of just breaking up the partnership after this current contract ends.

What I've been thinking about lately is how management hasn't seemed to have taken any action towards Fez. I'm not sure how many contracts they've been through since he's been the way he has, but I imagine its two or three. How/why has management decided to continue re-signing someone like Fez? What are contract negotiations like? Does he get paid less than Ron? I suppose I understand why Ron has hung on, as much as it sucks for the listeners, but if my job were to maintain the quality of the on-air product, I would make a move regarding the co-host who spends 99% of shows silent or sobbing.

[Adolf]

oops

[Adolf]

fez's live reads

god damnit are they annoying



a bunch of the 'i wanna be somebody' callers suck too.. like death metal moe... but everything else is minty fresh

disneyspy is a jerkoff as well :thumbup:

[Hepcat22]

Too many interviews with losers like Paul Reisner. (His new show on NBC cancelled after two episodes).

[Dude!]

Too many interviews with losers like Paul Reisner. (His new show on NBC cancelled after two episodes).

ain't that the truth

and the Reiser show
had the lowest ratings
in NBC history

[disneyspy]

fez's live reads

god damnit are they annoying



a bunch of the 'i wanna be somebody' callers suck too.. like death metal moe... but everything else is minty fresh

disneyspy is a jerkoff as well :thumbup:

well lent is over

[Tenbatsuzen]

ain't that the truth

and the Reiser show
had the lowest ratings
in NBC history

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[twiggy148]

I love the show and think Mr Bennington is a radio god but the way he is always grabbing the mic drives me insane! It makes a sound like he or someone is rubbing their hand across it. Some days are worse than others but if you listen you can hear it often.

[Adolf]

i hate sam


poor dave

[realmenhatelife]

I hate when the show goes to Wegman's and always forgets one fucking thing. Goddamn Cilantro.

[instrument]

If you hate Fez, then why listen to the show? My god, if I was annoyed with a radio personality the way you are with Fez, I'd just stop listening.

LOL you can hate fez and still listen, the guys only says 50 words a show.

[fezident]

I wouldn't say I "hate" it but, I do wish that Ron would tone it down a bit when a female is in the studio with him. He is 100 percent "on". Every single sentence he says is either a joke... or a setup for a joke. I feel like the show is treading water whenever a girl is there.
Ron is naturally funny so, when I hear him TRY to be funny... it kinda backfires.
And it very much reveals his insecurity.

Having said that... when Lily was in the studio the other day, Ron DID finally tone it down a bit after an hour or two. The surprise party thing kinda gave him something to focus on.

[OGC]

Having said that... when Lily was in the studio the other day, Ron DID finally tone it down a bit after an hour or two. The surprise party thing kinda gave him something to focus on.


I am listening on audible. Thanks for ruining the surprise for me.

[sailor]

I am listening on audible. Thanks for ruining the surprise for me.

best part is when she takes fez's virginity. total shocker!

[Melk]

best part is when she takes fez's virginity. total shocker!
Long live Felch Whatley! Finally, a character the audience can get behind.

[Adolf]

this crying shit and all the fuuuuuuucking bullshit has been going on for waaaay too long

he's like an aging slugger that just can't hit the ball anymore, enough is enough. he's either the joke of the show, the weirdo in the corner, or crying about the most ridiculous shit

send him back to florida with more money than he deserves, he'll be fine.


RON AND DAVE w/pepper.... I'M WAITING

[Adolf]

tha..that's all i had :glurps:

[PapaBear]

What an original thought. You should call the show and give him advice!

[Adolf]

yeah it's a given that people want him out of the picture, and it comes up all the time...


....so what the fuck are we waiting for.


remember how ron 'forced' earl out? he's sorta tried with fez but he wont LEAVE. so what now, we get a fucked up show forever? while dave sits around with his thumb in his ass, waiting. great.

maybe if ron was as hardcorebadass as he acts, he'd fuckin do something. cut the cord already, a lot of us are fed up.


yeah yeah yeah, i know..... blablabla

[disneyspy]

i thought after hearing ron talk about leaving radio before abandoning his friend yesterday would end these type of discussions,a non issue,move on,complain somewhere else

[Adolf]

no, YOU go complain somewhere else :bye:

you super duper ubber fans are so cool :bye:

[Adolf]

ron: "why are you breathing like this?"
fez: i dont know, just panicking

in other words "this is how people that need attention talk.. listen to my voice, we obviously need to talk about my stupid unbelievably ridiculous fucking bullshit now"

i used to like him, but fuck that guy


save
dave

[Manning, Esq.]

There are twenty things I hate about the show:

If they'd just Truman Show that shit up, all 20 would be rectified.

[Rhah]

i thought after hearing ron talk about leaving radio before abandoning his friend yesterday would end these type of discussions,a non issue,move on,complain somewhere else

Maybe he was trying to guilt Fez into leaving on his own since Fez is deathly afraid of losing Ron's friendship so much that he even refuses to admit Ron is ripping on him or doing anything wrong at times when he eggs him on.

Sad part is Fez is hanging onto the show so tightly despite his downward spiral he will take Ron down with him if Ron is true to his word about leaving radio before leaving Fez. Of course, Fez would probably kill himself over that but I also feel the show might be the only thing keeping Fez in this world as it is, so sort of a catch-22.

[heyronnie]

Love Fez, and I've been listening since the Ron and Ron days...but the crying does get old. Although Ron isn't giving up on his friend, obviously.

The Ron and Pepper Show with an occasionally sane Fez Show would be just fine with me....I think Hicks has done a fantastic job. no reason to change anything.

[Adolf]

hicks is great :thumbup: instead of buying him breakfast fez should be giving him at least half of his paycheck because he'd be fucked without him. so would ron. yet the guy cant pay his electric bill.... doesnt make sense

ron n dave n pepper would be a great show


i know im wasting my time bitching about it, but its a message board. that's what they're for



how does a guy tell his business partner, and buddy of like 30 years that it isnt working anymore and its time to quit working together......... i get it. but christ almighty................

[disneyspy]

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[heyronnie]

hicks is great :thumbup: instead of buying him breakfast fez should be giving him at least half of his paycheck because he'd be fucked without him. so would ron. yet the guy cant pay his electric bill.... doesnt make sense

ron n dave n pepper would be a great show


i know im wasting my time bitching about it, but its a message board. that's what they're for



how does a guy tell his business partner, and buddy of like 30 years that it isnt working anymore and its time to quit working together......... i get it. but christ almighty................


Dave is where we differ. I thought he was annoying as fuck and quit listening for a while until he left and Pepper showed up.

[Rhah]

Dave is where we differ. I thought he was annoying as fuck and quit listening for a while until he left and Pepper showed up.

I was definitely 50/50 on him. Thought he was, as you said, at times. I would think as 2nd mic he wouldn't have to be as crazy.

[sailor]

Dave was the best.

[Adolf]

of all the people associated with 202 he's my favorite

[fezident]

The only thing that I truly truly HATE about the show is when Fez pretends to cry for, like, two seconds.
Oh... and when Fez lies about dreams, problems, and various ailments. (IE "I can't understand music, lyrics, or rhythms", "when I look at a person, I also visualize them as a number", "I had a dream that my dad told me I was going to die in 20 mins")

[sailor]

The only thing that I truly truly HATE about the show is when Fez pretends to cry for, like, two seconds.
Oh... and when Fez lies about dreams, problems, and various ailments. (IE "I can't understand music, lyrics, or rhythms", "when I look at a person, I also visualize them as a number", "I had a dream that my dad told me I was going to die in 20 mins")

Why would you think he's lying?

[Melk]

The only thing that I truly truly HATE about the show is when Fez pretends to cry for, like, two seconds.
Oh... and when Fez lies about dreams, problems, and various ailments. (IE "I can't understand music, lyrics, or rhythms", "when I look at a person, I also visualize them as a number", "I had a dream that my dad told me I was going to die in 20 mins")

Fez has lamented his inability to understand lyrics while listening to music for as long as I have listened to the show.

If I had to discuss the things I dislike about the show, I would offer the following:

1) Fez's inability to take jokes at his own expense. Like when Whatever Jennifer brought in platters of blueberry dishes for Fez to enjoy.

2) Ron's intolerance towards Fez's boring, overly prepared bits. How many times does HTG, Jennifer, the interns, GBaby, etc come on the air and drones on without being funny or making a point. Ron needs to let Fez do the kind of radio he wants to. If guests of the show are allowed to talk about non-comedic topics why isn't the host?

[fezident]

Sailor- please don't take me for being combative but...
I'm surprised that you'd even ask that question.
Listening to every scrap of R&F dialog for 12 years has certainly revealed to me many/all of their individual "tells". Fez has so many of them, it's hard to know where to begin. And equally hard to type them out. I'd have to verbally imitate them to describe what I'm talking about.

Again... not to be confrontational but... do you think that Fez is actually an honest person? And don't you find it interesting that almost all of Fez's ailments are impossible to really cure/treat/prove? All his neurosis have to be taken on faith. I would say that Fez is equally dishonest to himself as he is to his audience.

Strange as this sounds .... I'm a fan of his!! I like him and want what's best. But he's not even helping himself so... ya know... it's hard to defend the guy.

[sailor]

I believe he's legitimately going crazy. If you think he's faking it, that's just another psychological disorder.

[fezident]

Fez is losing it but, not in a way that could be considered legitimate.
He is not doing the work he needs to do on himself. He doesn't take the medications in the prescribed doses. Taking a "quarter stick" of Xanax is simply not what the doctor ordered. It's not enough of the drug to have the desired effect.
And of course... as with all things... Fez claims that the drugs have on him the opposite effect than intended. Xanax and Klonopin make him "crawl out of his skin". Does he find another doctor? Does he try other combinations of drugs?
He hates improvising... and loves scripted material... but refuses to quit his job that requires improv skills.... and won't get a job as a newscaster that simply reads scripted material.
He's paralyzed with fear about elevators and subways. So.... he moved to an apartment building that requires both.
He could live in Chelsea where he'd be accepted & happy and on ground level and walking distance from his office. And ELECTS to live on an island that requires that you take an underwater subway tunnel OR CABLE CAR to get to it.
He desires the rights and acceptance of gays who are "out" but, he also enjoys the burden and pressure of having a "secret".
Fez said -on the air- that Robert Pattinson was his sexual fantasy but then still wants to be treated as a straight man (with a secret!)
He endlessly draws attention to his various neurosis... but resents when they are addressed by others.
He cries daily -for two seconds- only to the announce the words "just a little bit of panic" to Ron. And then he forgets to continue to cry. Everyday.
He very obviously made up the "details" about the nightmare he had about his father. This was painfully obvious to Ron, Chris, and many many callers. And when called out.... he didn't defend himself OR commit to the lie.
He sees people as numbers. His semen smells bad. He's afraid of heights and closed spaces and crowds and social interactions and he can't hear lyrics and he can't find a song's backbeat and he doesn't pick up on social cues and .... and .... and.....
These are all problems that Fezzie can have and enjoy for as loooong as he wants.


I remember when he was doing "inner voice" as a high nasally gay voice.... and then Ron said to him "I wish you'd use a different voice for 'inner voice' because I can't tell you apart". So Fez invented the deep bassy evil inner voice. As the day/week went on, Fez then told several stories about how the deep evil inner voice used to speak to him even as a child.

There's literally dozens more examples of this kind of behavior. It's very child like. All of it. To include, but not limited to his wanting to dig up his grandmother's corpse, and using his father's tshirt as a pillowcase and sleeping with it to this day. Fez is NOT doing the work. He's still using the pillowcase.
Children with these kinds of problems are FORCED to make changes, or there's consequences. Fez has no consequences. There's no incentive for him to do anything except embrace his problems because... his problems are his identity.

I had a somewhat unpleasant interaction with Fez a few weeks ago when I went to the studio. I'm tellin' ya... HIS version of what happened and everybody elses version of that same interaction were completely different. Fine. But... Fez "knows" he "crazy". So... why bring it up on the air? He KNOWS that his versions of events are inaccurate and that they NEVER pan out (like spotting an eyeglasses case on an airplane and telling the flight attendant that it might be an explosive device ) so..... WHY would he take a stance? Because the drama appeals to him. He creates it.

If somebody were colorblind, and you asked them to decide between two color choices... they would say "well... I'm rather colorblind so.... I'm not the best person to ask." Fez would say "THIS color matches that one". And then when the person picks the other choice... Fez would take it personally. Why? He KNOWS he's colorblind. Or.... does he?

When Fez does the news, he KNOWS it's only 5 minutes of material. And... when he's at his last story.... he KNOWS it's his last story. He has the option to say "I'm Fez Whatley and THAT'S the news! So... let's take some calls about that last story...." But he doesn't. Instead he PRETENDS like he's looking for one more story.... one that he KNOWS is not there.... and then sheepishly says "ummm.... that's all I had. sorry." He's been doing that for two years now. Why not mix it up and at least say "okay... I've got one more story here before we go to break.... 'Anderson Cooper....." That'd be an easy out. Nope. He elects to not take that road. He is CHOOSING the discomfort of being embarrassed. Why? Because that would be the best he could do... and he'd be judged on it. The way he's doing it now, he can STILL say "I'll do better tomorrow". It's a very rudimentary cop out.

He's happiest when he's at his saddest. Hence... his strong impulse to create and stay in situations that make him sad.

[furie]

one thing i hate about the show lately is how fez has these prepared articles/topics to bring up and he feels like he has to get to all of them. almost like they're burning a hole in his pocket. so he just starts rambling them off, wither they make a good segway or not.

an example is earlier this week, talking about the 49'ers/raiders fight. Ron and the callers spent about an hour on the topic and i think it made great radio. fez contributed nothing. and it as on football. this is an area that he knows, the only sport he follows. but every chance he got, he threw in some inane topic, like something he stumbled upon the internet. Ron patiently comments and the callers brought it all back to football and the fight.

He just couldn't be in the moment.

[sailor]

Fez is losing it but, not in a way that could be considered legitimate.
He is not doing the work he needs to do on himself. He doesn't take the medications in the prescribed doses. Taking a "quarter stick" of Xanax is simply not what the doctor ordered. It's not enough of the drug to have the desired effect.
And of course... as with all things... Fez claims that the drugs have on him the opposite effect than intended. Xanax and Klonopin make him "crawl out of his skin". Does he find another doctor? Does he try other combinations of drugs?
He hates improvising... and loves scripted material... but refuses to quit his job that requires improv skills.... and won't get a job as a newscaster that simply reads scripted material.
He's paralyzed with fear about elevators and subways. So.... he moved to an apartment building that requires both.
He could live in Chelsea where he'd be accepted & happy and on ground level and walking distance from his office. And ELECTS to live on an island that requires that you take an underwater subway tunnel OR CABLE CAR to get to it.
He desires the rights and acceptance of gays who are "out" but, he also enjoys the burden and pressure of having a "secret".
Fez said -on the air- that Robert Pattinson was his sexual fantasy but then still wants to be treated as a straight man (with a secret!)
He endlessly draws attention to his various neurosis... but resents when they are addressed by others.
He cries daily -for two seconds- only to the announce the words "just a little bit of panic" to Ron. And then he forgets to continue to cry. Everyday.
He very obviously made up the "details" about the nightmare he had about his father. This was painfully obvious to Ron, Chris, and many many callers. And when called out.... he didn't defend himself OR commit to the lie.
He sees people as numbers. His semen smells bad. He's afraid of heights and closed spaces and crowds and social interactions and he can't hear lyrics and he can't find a song's backbeat and he doesn't pick up on social cues and .... and .... and.....
These are all problems that Fezzie can have and enjoy for as loooong as he wants.


I remember when he was doing "inner voice" as a high nasally gay voice.... and then Ron said to him "I wish you'd use a different voice for 'inner voice' because I can't tell you apart". So Fez invented the deep bassy evil inner voice. As the day/week went on, Fez then told several stories about how the deep evil inner voice used to speak to him even as a child.

There's literally dozens more examples of this kind of behavior. It's very child like. All of it. To include, but not limited to his wanting to dig up his grandmother's corpse, and using his father's tshirt as a pillowcase and sleeping with it to this day. Fez is NOT doing the work. He's still using the pillowcase.
Children with these kinds of problems are FORCED to make changes, or there's consequences. Fez has no consequences. There's no incentive for him to do anything except embrace his problems because... his problems are his identity.

I had a somewhat unpleasant interaction with Fez a few weeks ago when I went to the studio. I'm tellin' ya... HIS version of what happened and everybody elses version of that same interaction were completely different. Fine. But... Fez "knows" he "crazy". So... why bring it up on the air? He KNOWS that his versions of events are inaccurate and that they NEVER pan out (like spotting an eyeglasses case on an airplane and telling the flight attendant that it might be an explosive device ) so..... WHY would he take a stance? Because the drama appeals to him. He creates it.

If somebody were colorblind, and you asked them to decide between two color choices... they would say "well... I'm rather colorblind so.... I'm not the best person to ask." Fez would say "THIS color matches that one". And then when the person picks the other choice... Fez would take it personally. Why? He KNOWS he's colorblind. Or.... does he?

When Fez does the news, he KNOWS it's only 5 minutes of material. And... when he's at his last story.... he KNOWS it's his last story. He has the option to say "I'm Fez Whatley and THAT'S the news! So... let's take some calls about that last story...." But he doesn't. Instead he PRETENDS like he's looking for one more story.... one that he KNOWS is not there.... and then sheepishly says "ummm.... that's all I had. sorry." He's been doing that for two years now. Why not mix it up and at least say "okay... I've got one more story here before we go to break.... 'Anderson Cooper....." That'd be an easy out. Nope. He elects to not take that road. He is CHOOSING the discomfort of being embarrassed. Why? Because that would be the best he could do... and he'd be judged on it. The way he's doing it now, he can STILL say "I'll do better tomorrow". It's a very rudimentary cop out.

He's happiest when he's at his saddest. Hence... his strong impulse to create and stay in situations that make him sad.

sorry, that's just way too long. happy birthday!

[fezident]

sorry, that's just way too long. happy birthday!

HA! Thanks for the birthday wish.

My post wasn't an attack on you... or even an "argument". In a way.... it's something that I almost wish Fez himself would read. It's my honest assessment of Fez's problems as I (a one-time super mega Fez fanatic) understand them. In my heart of hearts, I think he'd learn something from it.

[kreont]

"ummm.... that's all I had. sorry."


Yeah, what's up with this? Is he partially retarded?

[disneyspy]

"ummm.... that's all I had. sorry."


Yeah, what's up with this? Is he partially retarded?

if partially means mostly then yes

[Chimee]

Inbreds.

[yojimbo7248]

"ummm.... that's all I had. sorry."


Yeah, what's up with this? Is he partially retarded?

It's all a bit. About five years ago he and Ron decided that this crazy Fez heel character would be entertaining. When they were in Florida, Ron and Fez loved pissing off the hayseeds with Fez's flamboyant gay character. Now they love pissing off listeners with this crazy, narcissistic, fearful, crying character.

Ron has checked off on every aspect of the Fez character.

First of all, you would have to be a serious rube to think that Fez really collects with toenails, sees people as numbers, afraid that the massive NYC earthquake weakened the foundation of the building and big bad Irene will knock down NYC skyscrapers, etc.. He is clearly lying and creating a character.

Not enough people bring up, however, that Ron must be in on it. The show is going exactly as planned. If you don't like the current Fez character, change the channel. Ron pretending to be fed up with Fez is part of the bit.

Ron clearly said this just a couple of days ago. He will never abandon Fez because nothing is wrong with the show. Do you really think that if Ron wasn't happy with how Fez has been on the air, this bit would have been going on for the last five years. Ron isn't a pussy. He wouldn't have put up with this if he wasn't 100% behind it.

There is nothing wrong with the show. All of this is planned. As Ron has said over and over, if you don't like it, there is tons of other stuff to listen to. Just change the channel.

[cougarjake13]

well said

[disneyspy]

tha..that's all i had :glurps:

"ummm.... that's all I had. sorry."


Yeah, what's up with this? Is he partially retarded?

if partially means mostly then yes

this is who i thought you were quoting,if it was fez read yojimbo's post,its close to how i feel(way off on the florida thought tho)

[IamFogHat]

If you need to understand how this could be a bit watch in the Prestige when they explain how the Chinese guy pulls off his trick.

[Crash]

It's all a bit. About five years ago he and Ron decided that this crazy Fez heel character would be entertaining. When they were in Florida, Ron and Fez loved pissing off the hayseeds with Fez's flamboyant gay character. Now they love pissing off listeners with this crazy, narcissistic, fearful, crying character.

Ron has checked off on every aspect of the Fez character.

First of all, you would have to be a serious rube to think that Fez really collects with toenails, sees people as numbers, afraid that the massive NYC earthquake weakened the foundation of the building and big bad Irene will knock down NYC skyscrapers, etc.. He is clearly lying and creating a character.

Not enough people bring up, however, that Ron must be in on it. The show is going exactly as planned. If you don't like the current Fez character, change the channel. Ron pretending to be fed up with Fez is part of the bit.

Ron clearly said this just a couple of days ago. He will never abandon Fez because nothing is wrong with the show. Do you really think that if Ron wasn't happy with how Fez has been on the air, this bit would have been going on for the last five years. Ron isn't a pussy. He wouldn't have put up with this if he wasn't 100% behind it.

There is nothing wrong with the show. All of this is planned. As Ron has said over and over, if you don't like it, there is tons of other stuff to listen to. Just change the channel.

...




...




...holy fuck...




...that actually makes sense.

[yojimbo7248]

Another thing that cracks me up is the poster, callers who go, "I hate those stupid callers who call Fez a fag and make him cry or the ones who give him advice and make him angry." Ron lets those callers in. They are part of the bit even though they don't know it.

[twiggy148]

Another thing that cracks me up is the poster, callers who go, "I hate those stupid callers who call Fez a fag and make him cry or the ones who give him advice and make him angry." Ron lets those callers in. They are part of the bit even though they don't know it.

I agree with you. It should be obvious that its a bit, after all as tight as Sirius is do you think they would pay someone millions to sit in the corner and cry and it not be a bit? Plus, yes Ronnie B is a loyal friend but I dont think he would endanger his career just to save someone that is so fucked up mentally the doctors cant even help.
Yes it does get annoying when Fez goes on his rants but thats the show.

[Bigtchrist]

You do realize that fez is not in studio alot and is helping Chris on the board with stuff.... its a bit.... carnies and rubes..

[fezident]

Okay. Now we are entering a weird area. Fez does NOT "help Chris with the board and stuff". He wouldn't know the first thing about how to do that. And even if he did, he could STILL use the mics in that booth to participate in the show. Being in there simply wouldn't be a way to explain Fez's silence.

Secondly, I was there in the studio and I saw with my own two eyes that Fez literally sat at his microphone and didn't say a single word. He didn't paticjpate on even the slightest level. He doesn't even say "yeah" or "uh huh" at the appropriate times. Additionally, when the mics were off.... he was just as awkward.

I stand by my statement that Fez simply loves the sadness and the drama... and therefore, he creates it. He is NOT, however, doing a Penn & Teller silent-guy routine.
Nor is he leaving the studio for large chunks of time.

[CountryBob]

Not a bit

[underdog]

HA! Thanks for the birthday wish.

My post wasn't an attack on you... or even an "argument". In a way.... it's something that I almost wish Fez himself would read. It's my honest assessment of Fez's problems as I (a one-time super mega Fez fanatic) understand them. In my heart of hearts, I think he'd learn something from it.

Your long post made me realize how crazy Fez really is. Either he suffers from all that stuff or he's faking everything. I'm not sure which is worse.

[StanUpshaw]

I agree with you. It should be obvious that its a bit, after all as tight as Sirius is do you think they would pay someone millions to sit in the corner and cry and it not be a bit? Plus, yes Ronnie B is a loyal friend but I dont think he would endanger his career just to save someone that is so fucked up mentally the doctors cant even help.
Yes it does get annoying when Fez goes on his rants but thats the show.

For years Sirius employed a heroin addict who was falling asleep on the show, calling in "sick" 20 days a year, and flying into rages and attacking people. They employe him, and all of his coworkers just stood by and watched it all happen.

[realmenhatelife]

For years Sirius employed a heroin addict who was falling asleep on the show, calling in "sick" 20 days a year, and flying into rages and attacking people. They employe him, and all of his coworkers just stood by and watched it all happen.

Who on Sirius was a heroin addict?

[sailor]

Who on Sirius was a heroin addict?

I guess Artie Lang.

[CountryBob]

Anyone know if we are having a live show today? After the hurricane and all - didnt know if they were taking off

[fezident]

Who on Sirius was a heroin addict?

He was referring to Artie Lange.


As for the "would Sirius really pay a guy to do a talk show when that guy doesn't even TALK?" argument... well... I don't really see it a valid argument.
Why would they pay a guy to PRETEND to not talk? One who is aggravating the listeners? One who is "supposedly" frustrating the other half of the duo.
Where's the upside? Oh, it must be the massive ratings that Ron and Fez get! It's the reason they're a house hold name... and the reason you can't go anywhere without hearing people make reference to their show.
Are you seriously submitting that Sirius would pay a guy to do an Andy Kaufmann-esque bit for well over 5 years? And that, one day, there's going to be a big "HA HA! WE GOTCHA!" reveal at some point? And that that reveal is going to then translate into massive ratings that will generate massive amounts of advertising revenue?

[kreont]

Not enough people bring up, however, that Ron must be in on it. The show is going exactly as planned. If you don't like the current Fez character, change the channel.


As Ron has said over and over, if you don't like it, there is tons of other stuff to listen to. Just change the channel.

But I love the show.

I don't understand why is Fez awkward in this way? It may be a shtick like you say or it's how neurosis shows, or he's losing his intellect.

[sailor]

He was referring to Artie Lange.


As for the "would Sirius really pay a guy to do a talk show when that guy doesn't even TALK?" argument... well... I don't really see it a valid argument.
Why would they pay a guy to PRETEND to not talk? One who is aggravating the listeners? One who is "supposedly" frustrating the other half of the duo.
Where's the upside? Oh, it must be the massive ratings that Ron and Fez get! It's the reason they're a house hold name... and the reason you can't go anywhere without hearing people make reference to their show.
Are you seriously submitting that Sirius would pay a guy to do an Andy Kaufmann-esque bit for well over 5 years? And that, one day, there's going to be a big "HA HA! WE GOTCHA!" reveal at some point? And that that reveal is going to then translate into massive ratings that will generate massive amounts of advertising revenue?

If it's not a bit (it's not) then fez pretending to have all these illnesses would be a serious illness in itself. So, either it's a bit or he's crazy.

[fezident]

I'm not one of those people who thinks this whole thing is a bit, and that the people who buy into it are rubes. (roobs?)
Only an true retard would sincerely believe that Fez is completely normal... and that he and Ron sit around off-air and conspire to think of ways that they can make Fez APPEAR to be crazy when he's on the air.

I am, however, a believer that Fez is the author and creator of his own problems.. and that he's ELECTING to have them and to perpetuate them.

Fez's problems stem from his childhood, his timidity, and his (lack of) identity. He is stuck there. He really never let himself grow up. He knows nothing of the real world.. or the problems that adults face. Or the concerns that adults have. He is trapped -for reasons that we already know- in childhood. Because of this... Fez feels uncomfortable when grown ups are talking. Therefore.... he takes the fear of the unknown (ie: whatever grownups will be talking about in two seconds) and turns into a known (ie: "I can't talk about ____ because I'm still shaken up about something that happened on the train this morning, so let's talk about what happened to me on the train this morning.")

This is a very child-like strategy. This would be akin to a child that hasn't done his homework, or prepared for a test, or whatever. If the teacher is going around the room , making each child answer a question, the unprepared child will give himself a nosebleed... or wet his pants... or throw up... or make a stupid joke at his own expense... or whatever. They will do SOMETHING to distract from their unpreparedness. Something that, in most cases, is MORE embarrassing than what would have happened if they did attempt to just answer the question.

When Fez does something "wrong", he will immediately say "I'm sorry. I'm an idiot. I'm such a crazy screw up. I can't do anything right. I'm sorry". This FORCES the person he's talking to (Ron) to say "you're NOT a screwup." etc etc. To Fez.... this is comforting. This is control... it's known... it's predictable... and it closes the uncomfortable exchange with him being told he's "not so bad".


Sorry for my long posts. I usually never go long.

[kreont]

"They will do SOMETHING to distract from their unpreparedness."

Do you think Fez has any problems? What are they? He's a wealthy man, who doesn't care. You not liking his craft is your problem. Ron seems to be okay with Fez's style.

[fezident]

"They will do SOMETHING to distract from their unpreparedness."

Do you think Fez has any problems? What are they? He's a wealthy man, who doesn't care. You not liking his craft is your problem. Ron seems to be okay with Fez's style.

Ya know what?
This angry little tampon has shown me the light! She's right! Ron seems thrilled, and so do the callers!

[kreont]

Projection.

[yojimbo7248]

Who knows. No one besides Ron and Fez know for sure but Ron doesn't strike me as someone who would put up with shit. If he seriously has not been happy with Fez, he would have fired him years ago. I just can't escape the conclusion that Ron thinks the show is exactly where it should be and that Fez's crazy bit character is good entertainment.

[kreont]

Who knows. No one besides Ron and Fez know for sure but Ron doesn't strike me as someone who would put up with shit. If he seriously has not been happy with Fez, he would have fired him years ago. I just can't escape the conclusion that Ron thinks the show is exactly where it should be and that Fez's crazy bit character is good entertainment.

Ron is not exactly happy with the situation, he just loves Fez as a friend, that's why he doesn't care.

[chaza]

I've met Fez a few times, and the last time (before the first live Unmasked), he was clearly shaken at even speaking publicly to an audience of maybe 20 people. This was a huge contrast from the guy who could perform at Dave's Wedding. And and even huger contrast from 2000 and 2001.

[kreont]

I've met Fez a few times, and the last time (before the first live Unmasked), he was clearly shaken at even speaking publicly to an audience of maybe 20 people. This was a huge contrast from the guy who could perform at Dave's Wedding. And and even huger contrast from 2000 and 2001.

It's developing neurosis. Shtick theory is busted.

[nkaem_ael]

The Ron and Pepper Show with an occasionally sane Fez Show would be just fine with me....I think Hicks has done a fantastic job. no reason to change anything.

Agree 100% but after hearing Ron fill in for Opie last week, I'd kind of like to see the Ron & Anthony w/ Pepper Hicks show.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Okay. Now we are entering a weird area. Fez does NOT "help Chris with the board and stuff". He wouldn't know the first thing about how to do that.

Wha? Fez ran the board at WNEW and he got his start being a producer and board op.

[disneyspy]

Wha? Fez ran the board at WNEW and he got his start being a producer and board op.

oh you and your logic

[fezident]

Wha? Fez ran the board at WNEW and he got his start being a producer and board op.

That technology was simple and is now antiquated. I'm talking 8 track carts for certain applications. (yes... I'm serious). Simple audio boards with faders. And no computers and (probably) no sampling unit "360" and/or "instant replay" machines.
Fez has not kept up on any of that.

Also, let's put it this way, IF Fez was competent at working the controls... he'd do it. If he had strength in that area... he would use that skill.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That technology was simple and is now antiquated. I'm talking 8 track carts for certain applications. (yes... I'm serious). Simple audio boards with faders. And no computers and (probably) no sampling unit "360" and/or "instant replay" machines.
Fez has not kept up on any of that.

Also, let's put it this way, IF Fez was competent at working the controls... he'd do it. If he had strength in that area... he would use that skill.

The instant replay machine is one of the most simple pieces of technology in radio. And for what it's worth, Ron ran the instant replay at WNEW, that's how simple it was to use.

We'll agree to disagree on this, but it's not that hard to run a board, the basic concepts are the same, whether it was the old board at WNEW, the ancient board at JFK, or the board at Sirius.

[fezident]

Perhaps you're right. I certainly am not looking to "win". It is my belief though that Fez is overwhelmed by all forms of technology. I would ASSUME that the control room at a satellite radio station would be a place to hide... not a place to WORK for a guy like Fez. (old school phone, crappy computer/internet skills, CRT television, easily overwhelmed by change, etc)

But of course... I have no actual knowledge of Fez's skill set.

[Rhah]

The instant replay machine is one of the most simple pieces of technology in radio. And for what it's worth, Ron ran the instant replay at WNEW, that's how simple it was to use.

We'll agree to disagree on this, but it's not that hard to run a board, the basic concepts are the same, whether it was the old board at WNEW, the ancient board at JFK, or the board at Sirius.

Not sure how good Fez can do it, but I am pretty sure that sometimes Fez disappears back into the booth and Pepper sits in the room with Ron. At least that is what I gleaned from some clues thrown out... I am also an idiot and a nobody, so my analysis could be wrong or the very least, useless.

[kreont]

I am also an idiot and a nobody

But you are NOT O&A listener.

[disgruntledsherpa]

Jennifer the Hutt? I really hate her on the show.