New Bill Directs NASA Back to the Moon By 2022, With Permanent Habitation In Mind

[furie]

I'm not sure Obama will sign the bill. He's been rather anti-NASA so far. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110424/pl_ac/8357271_rep_bill_posey_introduces_back_to_the_moon _bill;_ylt=AjrKg7bD1Ub6i_fVOzConSs1y8F_;_ylu=X3oDM TNzZjhjNmI5BGFzc2V0A2FjLzIwMTEwNDI0LzgzNTcyNzFfcmV wX2JpbGxfcG9zZXlfaW50cm9kdWNlc19iYWNrX3RvX3RoZV9tb 29uX2JpbGwEY3BvcwM4BHBvcwM1BHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9 saXN0BHNsawNyZXBiaWxscG9zZXk-)

[Snoogans]

wait, arent we kinda like over populating this planet? Dont they know the moon isnt that far away, and that its actually way smaller. Not to mention hollow. and also floating further and further away from earth and will no longer be here eventually

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Depends on the religion


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html

[OGC]

it's always nice when congress passes something that will take effect in 10 years. Sure they may look great now because they want us to colonize the moon, it's the dopes in congress in 10 years that are asses because they don't want to bankrupt the country to fund it.

Typical Washington bullshit.

[furie]

Wait, ......hollow?

[brettmojo]

Wait, ......hollow?
Where do you think all the dinosaurs went? Duh.

[Snoogans]

Wait, ......hollow?

yea, on the history channel there was a program talking about space and shit and they said one time some satellite or telescope hit the moon and it sorta rang like a bell. so they think the reason we cant see the bottom of alot of the craters is cause its just a big rock thats got a hollow center. they dont know how thick the rock is or how big the hole is, but they said it rang like a bell for a few days

[StanUpshaw]

:lol:
Hollow
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[Snoogans]

:lol:
Hollow
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it was on history. im tryin to find the program on youtube to show you. its just a fuckin rock, why would it be so shocking to think its not completely solid all the way through? Im not sayin the outside is thin and its some huge empty center. but apparently some part of the center is empty enough that it resonates if something hits it

[brettmojo]

yea, on the history channel there was a program talking about space and shit and they said one time some satellite or telescope hit the moon and it sorta rang like a bell. so they think the reason we cant see the bottom of alot of the craters is cause its just a big rock thats got a hollow center. they dont know how thick the rock is or how big the hole is, but they said it rang like a bell for a few days
Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

[StanUpshaw]

:lol:
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[Snoogans]

Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

thank you. i found this too The moon's mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth's is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon's reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT's Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon's gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan's treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

people just automatically picutre it as like a ball. i dont mean its hollow like how a ball is filled with air. but there is definatly cavities inside and im pretty sure it couldnt support, in some places, people without collapsing like a sink hole

[StanUpshaw]

Astronomy lessons with Snoogans. :clap:

[Snoogans]

Astronomy lessons with Snoogans. :clap:

i cant wait til you fall into a 20 mile cavity in the moon. ill be so happy in 2024

[Snoogans]

and if there are no cavities in it at all, explain to me why it reverberates?

[brettmojo]

It's probably like a spaceship that brought the dinosaurs here. Either them or the jews.

[Snoogans]

It's probably like a spaceship that brought the dinosaurs here. Either them or the jews.

im gonna guess for the most part its solid with like some empty pockets.

that way the aliens have a place to hide and watch us

[Judge Smails]

I hope they bring back the Eagles

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[StanUpshaw]

and if there are no cavities in it at all, explain to me why it reverberates?

First off...NO ONE said there are no cavities. You went from saying the moon was hollow to saying "nah bro, I just meant there were caves and shit"

Secondly...there are no cavities in a fucking cymbal or a tuning fork, but when you hit them, they reverberate. You're kinda dumb.

[Snoogans]

First off...NO ONE said there are no cavities. You went from saying the moon was hollow to saying "nah bro, I just meant there were caves and shit"

Secondly...there are no cavities in a fucking cymbal or a tuning fork, but when you hit them, they reverberate. You're kinda dumb.

yea cause cymbols are just like a fuckin rock. I dont mean caves. I mean big ass fuckin cavities.

[StanUpshaw]

The Insane Clown Posse is going to vlog about this thread.

[Bob Impact]

and if there are no cavities in it at all, explain to me why it reverberates?

Everything reverberates.

[Snoogans]

i dont understand how you dont see the difference. the earth wouldnt reverberate for 3 hours if something like a shuttle crashed into it. So obviously there is something way different inside of it

[Snoogans]

Everything reverberates.

i mean to the extent of the moon. The earth would not do what the moon did. thats why it was noteworthy

[Snoogans]

you will all see when they come back in 2022 and say we cant go there cause it would have too many massive collapses

[StanUpshaw]

Fuckin moonrocks, how do they work?

[Bob Impact]

i mean to the extent of the moon. The earth would not do what the moon did. thats why it was noteworthy

The point I'm trying to get to is that both sides of the argument are based on specious logic at best, specifically because measuring resonance doesn't really work that way. Think of a champagne glass being broken by having it's resonant frequency played through a speaker and the Tacoma Narrows bridge. Both are examples of resonance (technically Tacoma Narrows is oscillation but it still works for the example) but they have totally different sizes, resonant frequencies and input energy. The bridge is too large/dense to ring the way the glass does but it still resonates. Who's to say what the Earth would or would not do? Hell, it's possible that the Earth hums once a week for 3 hours but if that hum was below 20Hz we functionally would never know it (yes, some scientist would have detected it, that's not the point) because we can't hear it.

[Bob Impact]

Fuckin moonrocks, how do they work?

Also, when I was a very young child we had a rock driveway. I would pick up rocks and sell them at a Lemonade stand as "moon rocks" to people driving by. I'm not gonna bullshit you, I didn't get the volume the Lemonade stands got, but every sale was pure profit for me.

[PapaBear]

Also, when I was a very young child we had a rock driveway. I would pick up rocks and sell them at a Lemonade stand as "moon rocks" to people driving by. I'm not gonna bullshit you, I didn't get the volume the Lemonade stands got, but every sale was pure profit for me.
Damn... That must have been some REALLY bad lemonade!

Actually, I like it. Anyone who buys lemonade from a kid, does it knowing that mom made it for them. The people that bought your rocks probably appreciated the fact that you were "enterprising" on your own.

[A.J.]

Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.
Ummm...didn't Apollo 13 need every piece of the lunar module to get back home?

[StanUpshaw]

Ummm...didn't Apollo 13 need every piece of the lunar module to get back home?

What did they need with a spent rocket?

[A.J.]

What did they need with a spent rocket?

What was spent? As they approached the moon, the only rockets they had were the Command Service Module and the Lunar Module. The CSM was badly damaged and the LM's ascent rocket was used to propel them home after slinging around the moon. They couldn't have jettisoned anything back into the moon.

[furie]

Wait, ......hollow?

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/03/giant-underground-chamber-found-on-moon-by-indias-chandrayaan-1-spacecraft.html

[Crispy123]

I'm not sure Obama will sign the bill. He's been rather anti-NASA so far.

I love how the Republitard mantra for government is "privatize, privatize, privatize." And when Obama does it he's "anti" NASA and a socialist, amazing.

[furie]

I love how the Republitard mantra for government is "privatize, privatize, privatize." And when Obama does it he's "anti" NASA and a socialist, amazing.

hey, fuck you. you don't know my politics.

you can't privatize space exploration because no corporation can afford the expense and the information that the research yields make it unprofitable.

Obama cancelled the Constellation Program which basically cancels future moon landings.

[Crispy123]

hey, fuck you. you don't know my politics.

you can't privatize space exploration because no corporation can afford the expense and the information that the research yields make it unprofitable.

Obama cancelled the Constellation Program which basically cancels future moon landings.

woah easy big fella! Even tho I quoted you, I didn't mean to come off like I was talking specifically about you.

I live right next to KSC and I have had to read all about the right wing outrage over Obama coming to see the shuttle launch the other day and it makes me sick.

And yes he ended the constellation program but signed the NASA Authorization act that continues most of the Constellation programs goals.

[hanso]

Van Morrison should be made the ruler.

[Furtherman]

Great thread... it would be great to go back to the moon, but I think we're too worried about present matters rather than future ones.

As for the moon, yes, it is hollow, but it's filled with Nazis waiting to return to take over the Earth. Every child should know this.

I wish Mike The Teacher would still post here - he's knows all about the moon - and has met almost all the men who have walked on the moon. Hell, he might even be from Tycho.

As for funding, how about we take that Pakistan aide (and Palestinian, Israel, and a few other countries) money and funnel it back into our space program. Hell, even a years worth of foreign aide would do wonders.

[brettmojo]

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[KC2OSO]

I wish Mike The Teacher would still post here - he's knows all about the moon - ...

Heh. I was standing in a field in Asbury Park like a year ago watching a hotel get demolished and look over at this guy who's taking pictures. I walk over to him and ask him if he's Mizzle and sure enough he is. We chat about this and that and I get around to asking him why he doesn't post here or call the show any more and he said it was because he had a falling out with one of the members of the show. Too bad. :sad:

I don't think that the moon is full of Nazis but I'm all for diverting some of the billions we give away to countries holding us hostage for the sake of world political stability. It will never happen though.

[jonyrotn]

Great..Next year they'll tell us it's not made out of cheese..