Is sometime after FEB 2012 the End of Ron and Fez?

[MonkeyBall]

Is this what February's about?

I read this in DCRTV Mailbag, a radio blog out of DC, and didn't really buy it:

"I have it on good authority, that former WJFKers Ron and Fez, will be parting ways soon. The Sirius XM radio comedy duo currently heard on The Opie and Anthony channel during the midday, will be calling it quits near the end of Feb 2012. Ron is taking on other projects like Unmasked and Ron Bennington Interviews - ronbenningtoninterviews.com and Fez Whatley will begin doing voice work for a high powered animation company in Florida in the Fall of 2012. This is NOT confirmed, though my source is pretty reliable when it comes to inside info. (12/4/11)"

http://www.dcrtv.com/mailbag.html

There's a couple of replies on there but nothing concrete. I didn't take it seriously at all until Ron mentioned February today. That and who would hire Fez?

[disneyspy]

the disney studios have a huge animation department in lake buena vista(disney world)

fez has done things at universal orlando

i'm cancelling my XM and going back to doing alot of volunteer work if this is true

[Furtherman]

:down:

But the only thing that is surprising is that someone would hire Fez. It must be a friend from Florida helping him out, which is good. However, it's been evident that Ron's been frustrated for a while now. He's got to consider his own career.

[MonkeyBall]

Ron is being a touch tougher on Fez today than normal. Like the sarcasm about how the Bucs throwback jersies made Fezzie cry because he kept so much emotion locked in. Do you think those shots are lost on Fez, or he just doesn't dare punch back?

BTW--Ron just mentioned "big changes in Feb". If he does it a couple of times more, I'll call shenanigans:huh:.

[Misteriosa]

im just surprised anything can be read on that awful site. my eyes were assaulted by that wall of text.

that being said, what is DCRTV Mailbag's track record on things like this? how accurate are their leaks/sources usually?

if the buddays do go, i know im gonna be WAY more productive during the hours of 11-3 :down:

[brettmojo]

Is FEB 2012 the END of Ron and FEZ?

No, that happened June 2010.

[deliciousV]

I think that even if the Ron and Fez show as we know it ends, Ron will continue with a show during this time slot. He has always said he enjoys having a show, and I don't see him blowing the whole thing up and leaving Hicks in the lurch. He actually has a pretty entertaining crew with him right now, and he'd get to keep most of the money.

[MonkeyBall]

DCRTV is about 50-50. They predicted the end of Don and Mike for so long it finally came true. And the stuff the guy puts in the mailbag is not verified. That being said, they were on Ron & Fez's move to satellite and one of the only places that devoted some space to all of Fezzie's heart attacks and stents.

[Crispy123]

The Mayans say 12/21/12 is the end of Ron and Fez...

[Misteriosa]

DCRTV is about 50-50. They predicted the end of Don and Mike for so long it finally came true. And the stuff the guy puts in the mailbag is not verified. That being said, they were on Ron & Fez's move to satellite and one of the only places that devoted some space to all of Fezzie's heart attacks and stents.

HA! thats like putting Castro in your death pool every year :laugh:

[TimTimSalabim]

Confirmed. Ron has already mentioned a couple of times today that the show is ending in February.

[CountryBob]

The Mayans say 12/21/12 is the end of Ron and Fez...

you beat me to it

[Judge Smails]

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[underdog]

That website makes the ibang look easy to read.

[Sloppy2nds]

This news is upsetting :(

[weav]

Keep walking down the midway folks...this has bit written all over it

[Judge Smails]

This news is upsetting :(

When they left WNEW it was a VERY sad day for me. More than O & A leaving or Stern leaving terrestrial. The very day I found out that they were going to XM is the day I bought a radio and signed up.

If this is true (and it's long overdue), it won't affect me in any way. I'm keeping my Sirius XM subscription because I've grown to love it. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ron and Fez Show ended years ago. I look forward to Ron's solo stuff if there is any, but not with the same enthusiasm that I used to have for The Ron and Fez Show. Donk.

[sailor]

Keep walking down the midway folks...this has bit written all over it

Don't know if I hope you're right or wrong.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I highly doubt this show is going anywhere...nothing like rumors to spark up a contract renewal. Sirius would not give Ron all these shows if they didn't want him back.

[KnoxHarrington]

Don't know if I hope you're right or wrong.

If this whole thing has been a bit all along, it's the longest bit with the smallest payoff ever. "Hey, let's turn this show into a shell of its former self for years for some cheap laughs."

I'm like you, I'd be far angrier if that were the case than if this is for real.

[spankyfrank]

So Fez with all his problems will sever his relationship with what he considers his best friend to go to Florida to do voice-overs for cartoons.

Hmmm while its not odd for fez to do something compulsive this seems a bit out of the ordinary for me.

[disneyspy]

If this whole thing has been a bit all along, it's the longest bit with the smallest payoff ever. "Hey, let's turn this show into a shell of its former self for years for some cheap laughs."

I'm like you, I'd be far angrier if that were the case than if this is for real.

how can it be a bit all along when febuary wasnt brought up til today?

and talk about a shell,the show you poor folks have been listening to this last decade is a second rate shell of magical show from the 90s

[danlaroe]

They have been mentioning Feb for the past few weeks. Fez is supposed to tell the secret then

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[disneyspy]

They have been mentioning Feb for the past few weeks. Fez is supposed to tell the secret then

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wrong,just before the thanksgiving break they set 2012 as the time,nothing last week,today was the first time febuary was specifically talked about and the secret wasnt mentioned

[Dude!]

i'm cancelling my XM and going back to doing alot of volunteer work if this is true

you could get a job, too

[spoon]

So Fez with all his problems will sever his relationship with what he considers his best friend to go to Florida to do voice-overs for cartoons.

Hmmm while its not odd for fez to do something compulsive this seems a bit out of the ordinary for me.

Compulsive?

This train wreck of a friendship has been a farce and dead on the vine for years now. My guess is there is plenty truth to the rumors and it's survival for each. One has obviously gone a different route and has tired of the 5 days a week radio game, the other simply can't do it. Ron is more interested by a mile in the arts and ints he's been focused on for years now, Fez simply doesn't have it in him any longer.

Being that the contract isn't even up in a few months and rumors are spreading on new direction for the show, hosts and more, I'd say compulsive is hardly the word to describe it.

[deliciousV]

Compulsive?

This train wreck of a friendship has been a farce and dead on the vine for years now. My guess is there is plenty truth to the rumors and it's survival for each. One has obviously gone a different route and has tired of the 5 days a week radio game, the other simply can't do it. Ron is more interested by a mile in the arts and ints he's been focused on for years now, Fez simply doesn't have it in him any longer.

Being that the contract isn't even up in a few months and rumors are spreading on new direction for the show, hosts and more, I'd say compulsive is hardly the word to describe it.

I'm more inclined to think this is a bit, as has been done multiple times. But if not I don't agree that Ron is tired of 5 day radio, I think he would be happy to continue with the crew he has and take all the money, he has fun doing the show most of the time and he feeds his love of the arts and interviews.

[danlaroe]

wrong,just before the thanksgiving break they set 2012 as the time,nothing last week,today was the first time febuary was specifically talked about and the secret wasnt mentioned

No. You're wrong

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[foodcourtdruide]

Compulsive?

This train wreck of a friendship has been a farce and dead on the vine for years now. My guess is there is plenty truth to the rumors and it's survival for each. One has obviously gone a different route and has tired of the 5 days a week radio game, the other simply can't do it. Ron is more interested by a mile in the arts and ints he's been focused on for years now, Fez simply doesn't have it in him any longer.

Being that the contract isn't even up in a few months and rumors are spreading on new direction for the show, hosts and more, I'd say compulsive is hardly the word to describe it.

Why do you think Ron is tired of the 5 days a week radio game? It seems like he absolutely loves talk radio. I could see the show becoming the Ron Bennington show and Fez staying on as producer with Pepper, and maybe going to a different station that is more adult talk than shock jockery. I'd be really shocked if the show flat out left SIRIUS, but calling this show Ron and Fez is pretty absurd.

[spoon]

Why do you think Ron is tired of the 5 days a week radio game? It seems like he absolutely loves talk radio. I could see the show becoming the Ron Bennington show and Fez staying on as producer with Pepper, and maybe going to a different station that is more adult talk than shock jockery. I'd be really shocked if the show flat out left SIRIUS, but calling this show Ron and Fez is pretty absurd.

you surely could be right, but it's just my read

I just think he's grown a little tired of the daily show versus the prep/research and overall joy he gets out of the interview based shows like RBI and unmasked. Sure he can turn the show more into that type feel, and has, but I just see a more complete direction change for a guy who went for comedy club owner, to shock jock, to a more diverse program and now he's a little bored. Sure he loves pep pep, esd and others...I just see him making a more drastic move.

[foodcourtdruide]

you surely could be right, but it's just my read

I just think he's grown a little tired of the daily show versus the prep/research and overall joy he gets out of the interview based shows like RBI and unmasked. Sure he can turn the show more into that type feel, and has, but I just see a more complete direction change for a guy who went for comedy club owner, to shock jock, to a more diverse program and now he's a little bored. Sure he loves pep pep, esd and others...I just see him making a more drastic move.

I think he loves the interactions with the callers, he's just grown really tired of fez. Just my opinion, none of us know the truth.

[spoon]

but i stole this all from Ron's blog

[paulisded]

you surely could be right, but it's just my read

I just think he's grown a little tired of the daily show versus the prep/research and overall joy he gets out of the interview based shows like RBI and unmasked. Sure he can turn the show more into that type feel, and has, but I just see a more complete direction change for a guy who went for comedy club owner, to shock jock, to a more diverse program and now he's a little bored. Sure he loves pep pep, esd and others...I just see him making a more drastic move.

I agree with this, especially given that 90% of each show is now devoted to lists and reading inane interrobang comments. The lists are especially tiring since the vast majority of callers don't even follow the topic.

[foodcourtdruide]

but i stole this all from Ron's blog

source code, please

[OneEyeJack]

118 hours till the Last RonFez Christmas party...

[cougarjake13]

ill enjoy whatever show they got til feb and whatever comes after

[Dan G]

Before Thanksgiving, Ron wanted Fez to finally pick a date to reveal his secret. He said he didn't want to drag it out, he wanted it to be revealed early in the year.

Now, suddenly February is mysteriously brought up by Ron and people are speculating the end of the show? Come on.

[Recyclerz]

you surely could be right, but it's just my read

I just think he's grown a little tired of the daily show versus the prep/research and overall joy he gets out of the interview based shows like RBI and unmasked. Sure he can turn the show more into that type feel, and has, but I just see a more complete direction change for a guy who went for comedy club owner, to shock jock, to a more diverse program and now he's a little bored. Sure he loves pep pep, esd and others...I just see him making a more drastic move.

I think you are right that he puts his passion into the side projects now but I suspect that it is because his arms got tired from beating the dead horse that is The Ron & Fez Show. I obviously don't know his financial situation but I doubt that a career based on the arty stuff is going to pay for the lifestyle that Ron so obviously enjoys. Although I listen to (almost) all of it, that is of limited commercial interest and will get him paid like a weekend NPR host.

Plus you can hear the fun return to his voice when he's sitting in with peers on the O&A show. I think you could grab any of the O&A regular comedians, throw him in a studio with Ron and have a pretty damn good show right out of the box. Team him up with a woman who has comedic chops (Kathleen Madigan? Amy Schubert as a junior partner?) and you would have a (minor) national phenomenon on your hands. Ron is still too funny to hang it up.

[spoon]

I think you are right that he puts his passion into the side projects now but I suspect that it is because his arms got tired from beating the dead horse that is The Ron & Fez Show. I obviously don't know his financial situation but I doubt that a career based on the arty stuff is going to pay for the lifestyle that Ron so obviously enjoys. Although I listen to (almost) all of it, that is of limited commercial interest and will get him paid like a weekend NPR host.

Plus you can hear the fun return to his voice when he's sitting in with peers on the O&A show. I think you could grab any of the O&A regular comedians, throw him in a studio with Ron and have a pretty damn good show right out of the box. Team him up with a woman who has comedic chops (Kathleen Madigan? Amy Schubert as a junior partner?) and you would have a (minor) national phenomenon on your hands. Ron is still too funny to hang it up.

however, do you think Ron would be able to co-exist with anyone even near his status in terms of control over time, not just a few shows for fun

i think he is an alpha and over time he'd have it out with the likes of anyone like him or even a strong minded women. if he runs a show still in this form, I think it thrives with a sidekick like fez of old, or esd, not a name but we'll see. Ron is always at his best as the leader of the not so cool pack ripping everything and everyone else. I just don't see him fitting regularly with a Bill Burr, Madigan, Rogen or even Schubert. Not to mention most of those have little tie to Ronnie, and history in the biz.

Again, just my take.

[Tenbatsuzen]

If the Ron and Fez show ends, it becomes the Ron Bennington show. He does RBI during the show ANYWAY, it's just added value for the show overall.

I can guarantee this: If Fez does leave, they aren't going to replace him and bring in ESD or a new co-host. It'll be Ron's show with a various cast of characters.

[spoon]

If the Ron and Fez show ends, it becomes the Ron Bennington show. He does RBI during the show ANYWAY, it's just added value for the show overall.

I can guarantee this: If Fez does leave, they aren't going to replace him and bring in ESD or a new co-host. It'll be Ron's show with a various cast of characters.

For the record, I HATE agreeing with you in any way...it just leaves me feeling dirty.

Yet here, I have to do so. Congrats on making sense for once, seemingly without some ulterior motive or fandom to stick to regardless of fact.

In conclusion, you still suck.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

February. Ron kills Fez. Digs his eyeballs out with his thumbs.

[epo]

For the record, I HATE agreeing with you in any way...it just leaves me feeling dirty.

Yet here, I have to do so. Congrats on making sense for once, seemingly without some ulterior motive or fandom to stick to regardless of fact.

In conclusion, you still suck.

True on all accounts.

[Snoogans]

im shocked the show was still on, to be honest with you. this all completely makes sense, cause ron is an asset to Sirius/XM. Fez hasnt been for a very long time. Im gonna go ahead and guess ron basically does a show daily, and like matty said, puts his RBI and unmasked replays on occasionally to kill some time. Im sure he got a nice little pay bump from what fez woulda made, and everything else will stay the same. MAYBE someone like pepper gets more mic time and a bit more money, but nothing major.

[A.J.]

When they left WNEW it was a VERY sad day for me.

As much as I loved the WNEW days, I was sad when they left WJFK. For that brief time, I got to enjoy for myself what the NYC folks had before.

[OGC]

If the Ron and Fez show ends, it becomes the Ron Bennington show. He does RBI during the show ANYWAY, it's just added value for the show overall.

I can guarantee this: If Fez does leave, they aren't going to replace him and bring in ESD or a new co-host. It'll be Ron's show with a various cast of characters.



I hate it when someone uses the word guarantee to emphasize their opinions.

What do we get from you if the show changes to the Ron & Dave show ?

[paulisded]

If Matty is right, I hope Hicks gets to do more than giggle and agree with Ron.

[underdog]

I hate it when someone uses the word guarantee to emphasize their opinions.

What do we get from you if the show changes to the Ron & Dave show ?

We get a dinner.

[sailor]

We get a dinner.

Blowjobs and he gets fired?

[OneEyeJack]

Wristbands are now going for$35 a piece $25 in advance till friday....

[Tenbatsuzen]

I hate it when someone uses the word guarantee to emphasize their opinions.

What do we get from you if the show changes to the Ron & Dave show ?

Earl left, they didn't replace him.

Steve left, they didn't replace him.

Dave left, they didn't replace him. (unless we're counting Zito)

I'm not saying Dave won't ever come back, but I think it'll be hard for people to like a "replacement" for Fez. And I don't think Sirius will shell out for a replacement.

Ron understands he can do a show by himself at this point, that he doesn't need a full time co-host.

[danlaroe]

I'm available

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[underdog]

Wristbands are now going for$35 a piece $25 in advance till friday....

NO WRISTBANDS!

[danlaroe]

NO WRISTBANDS!

Do I need one to park

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[underdog]

Do I need one to park

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No, but you'll probably need to pay $50.

[Manning, Esq.]

Something, something, something ...

But I feel fine.

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[danlaroe]

No, but you'll probably need to pay $50.

Holy fuck

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[underdog]

Holy fuck

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It is Manhattan.

[danlaroe]

I'm parking a car not opening a dumb Cupcake shop

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[deliciousV]

February. Ron kills Fez. Digs his eyeballs out with his thumbs.

No jury would convict and he'd be awarded damages from Fez's estate.

[A buck 380]

As tiring as it can be at times, I will miss the "teasing the tard" segments. Dave's teasing of Fez with Ron escalating things were some of my favorite shows. Just another phase for the show I'd assume.

[cougarjake13]

Evolution

Happens everywhere even in our fav radio show

[OGC]

Earl left, they didn't replace him.

Steve left, they didn't replace him.

Dave left, they didn't replace him. (unless we're counting Zito)

I'm not saying Dave won't ever come back, but I think it'll be hard for people to like a "replacement" for Fez. And I don't think Sirius will shell out for a replacement.

Ron understands he can do a show by himself at this point, that he doesn't need a full time co-host.


Thank you for ignoring my point completely. How do you back up your guarantee ?

[spoon]

I hate it when someone uses the word guarantee to emphasize their opinions.

What do we get from you if the show changes to the Ron & Dave show ?

good point and I'm sorry for missing to opp to point our his ridiculous arrogance once again

[danlaroe]

good point and I'm sorry for missing to opp to point our his ridiculous arrogance once again

I guarantee that without autocorrect I would never spell guarantee correctly

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[spoon]

I'm parking a car not opening a dumb Cupcake shop

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no the cost there is blowing a host, eating kaka and a big trust fund tap

[danlaroe]

no the cost there is blowing a host, eating kaka and a big trust fund tap

The Cupcakes are good. I'll have a Ronnie b on Saturday

Htg blocked me on twitter shortly thereafter

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[spoon]

I guarantee that without autocorrect I would never spell guarantee correctly

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WORD!

[spoon]

The Cupcakes are good. I'll have a Ronnie b on Saturday

Htg blocked me on twitter shortly thereafter

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that just means you're doing your job tebowlaroe!

nice work

[danlaroe]

that just means you're doing your job tebowlaroe!

nice work

Now I'm on the show more than she is

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[spoon]

Now I'm on the show more than she is

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she's busy on other things

[KingModem]

Finally the time has come. The return of Harry Elvis.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Thank you for ignoring my point completely. How do you back up your guarantee ?

Seriously? Ron is starting to push 60. You think he'd start over with a brand new host? You think Sirius is going to pay for a host? Think about it.

Ron is doing OK by himself with no co-host. You think he'd completely change the flow of the show with someone new? He uses up people. Some last long than others. It's better for the show that it's just his show.

[OGC]

Seriously? Ron is starting to push 60. You think he'd start over with a brand new host? You think Sirius is going to pay for a host? Think about it.

Ron is doing OK by himself with no co-host. You think he'd completely change the flow of the show with someone new? He uses up people. Some last long than others. It's better for the show that it's just his show.


You are f-ing amazing

[Tenbatsuzen]

You are f-ing amazing

You're getting hung up over one word when it's a basic inference, from the way Sirius has operated and the way the show has gone, that Ron would do it solo, if the rumor is right in the first place.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Finally the time has come. The return of Harry Elvis.

The time to give up on pants?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Thank you for ignoring my point completely. How do you back up your guarantee ?

Fuck off, that's how I back up my guarantees.

[cougarjake13]

I can take a shit in a box and mark it guaranteed

[OGC]

Fuck off, that's how I back up my guarantees.

There you go. I knew you had it in you.

[TimTimSalabim]

Earl left, they didn't replace him.

Steve left, they didn't replace him.

Dave left, they didn't replace him. (unless we're counting Zito)

I'm not saying Dave won't ever come back, but I think it'll be hard for people to like a "replacement" for Fez. And I don't think Sirius will shell out for a replacement.

Ron understands he can do a show by himself at this point, that he doesn't need a full time co-host.

They'll probably just go uber-cheap and run O&A reruns all day. Maybe that's why they renamed the channel.

[CountryBob]

If there is a God in heaven, Feburary comes, Fez leaves, East Side Dave comes back and we have the Ron and Dave show. To blow our minds until December when the world ends....

[Zorro]

If there is a God in heaven, Feburary comes, Fez leaves, East Side Dave comes back and we have the Ron and Dave show. To blow our minds until December when the world ends....

I like Dave, but I've never understood the fanatacism.

[disneyspy]

I like Dave, but I've never understood the fanatacism.

ha,i'm such a fan of the old ron and ron show i went checked out what ron diaz was up to,alas it looks like he's doing alright in the florida sun and wont be going to new york to give us the show we deserve

[cougarjake13]

ha,i'm such a fan of the old ron and ron show i went checked out what ron diaz was up to,alas it looks like he's doing alright in the florida sun and wont be going to new york to give us the show we deserve



Na he's pretty successful and comfortable doin his Ron and Ian show
It's not bad a mix of
Sports
Entertainment
Xtra curriculars

[hanso]

Na he's pretty successful and comfortable doin his Ron and Ian show
It's not bad a mix of
Sports
Entertainment
Xtra curriculars

Any link to a podcast maybe?

[disneyspy]

Any link to a podcast maybe?

http://www.620wdae.com/pages/ron_ian.html

[PapaBear]

So Fez with all his problems will sever his relationship with what he considers his best friend to go to Florida to do voice-overs for cartoons.

Hmmm while its not odd for fez to do something compulsive this seems a bit out of the ordinary for me.

Compulsive?

This train wreck of a friendship has been a farce and dead on the vine for years now. My guess is there is plenty truth to the rumors and it's survival for each. One has obviously gone a different route and has tired of the 5 days a week radio game, the other simply can't do it. Ron is more interested by a mile in the arts and ints he's been focused on for years now, Fez simply doesn't have it in him any longer.

Being that the contract isn't even up in a few months and rumors are spreading on new direction for the show, hosts and more, I'd say compulsive is hardly the word to describe it.
IMPULSIVE!!!

[disneyspy]

implosive

[CountryBob]

I like Dave, but I've never understood the fanatacism.

He makes me laugh - a lot!

[Zorro]

He makes me laugh - a lot!

I agree, just feel it's more likely Fez's mental illnes will clear up before Dave returns.

BUT, my real question is ... Isn't this just the normal end of their contract? Not some special drop dead date that fezzie they must meet?

[Rhah]

If it is a new contract and then a re-organization of the show happens. I would hate for Zito to somehow get some sort of windfall from this while Dave had to wallow into the background not getting shit. Dave still contributed 5x as much content as Zito does.

I do hope Pepper gets paid more.

I have about 1% confidence that the goddam Sirius 1%'ers give anyone but Ron some lovin'

[OGC]

didn't they just sign a new contract last year ?

[Zorro]

If it is a new contract and then a re-organization of the show happens. I would hate for Zito to somehow get some sort of windfall from this while Dave had to wallow into the background not getting shit. Dave still contributed 5x as much content as Zito does.

I do hope Pepper gets paid more.

I have about 1% confidence that the goddam Sirius 1%'ers give anyone but Ron some lovin'

Jealous of Zito?

[furie]

If there is a God in heaven, Feburary comes, Fez leaves, East Side Dave comes back and we have the Ron and Dave show. To blow our minds until December when the world ends....

The Ron Bennington show featuring Dave McDonald is more like it.

[Zorro]

The Ron Bennington show featuring Dave McDonald is more like it.

Considering the amount of radio personalities out of work do you think Dave has a shot? Ron said in the past the only way he'd leave Fez is if Fez wanted to leave. Is Fez going to quit? Lastly, with the O&A contract expiring in Oct 2012 would Sirius give Ron a new contract or just extend the old one?

[ozzie]

It's interesting that Ron referred to it as a "deadline".

He asked Fez: "Can you make the deadline? Or do you need some time off? You can go til February?"

It kinda sounded like nothing was decided yet, but if Fez isn't any better by then... ?

[CountryBob]

Maybe the whole "Going to Japan" really means "going to the nut hut for good"

[Zorro]

Maybe the whole "Going to Japan" really means "going to the nut hut for good"

I wish him well, wherever he goes, but i hope he goes

[Tenbatsuzen]

The Ron Bennington show featuring Dave McDonald is more like it.

See, that I could see. Remember, before Norton was a full time member of O&A, he was in 2-3 times a week. I could see that happening with Dave.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Considering the amount of radio personalities out of work do you think Dave has a shot?

You think they'd just pull some random schlub off the street to co-host with Ron? If anyone co-hosts with Ron, it'll be someone we've heard before and know Ron has a rapport with.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Lastly, with the O&A contract expiring in Oct 2012 would Sirius give Ron a new contract or just extend the old one?

Didn't they just sign a new deal last year? It's just for 2 years?

[spoon]

See, that I could see. Remember, before Norton was a full time member of O&A, he was in 2-3 times a week. I could see that happening with Dave.

Could you really? Or is this what you want to see? Bc there is a difference no matter how much you love yourself!

You think they'd just pull some random schlub off the street to co-host with Ron? If anyone co-hosts with Ron, it'll be someone we've heard before and know Ron has a rapport with.

As opposed to pulling some schlub off a board right?!

HA!

[TripleSkeet]

I dont give a fuck what they call it, Ron and Dave back on the same show would make me extremely happy. Even if Fez stayed too. Fez literally makes me want to turn the show off anymore, but when Dave was there at least he made Fezs problems entertaining.

[yojimbo7248]

you could get a job, too

good point. Do we taxpayers pay for your life of radio listening, golf playing luxury, spy? Are you on welfare?

[yojimbo7248]

With their new contract, the Ron and Fez Show will be on for at least five more years. Fez is sounding stronger, Zito is contributing a lot and Chris Stanley is the funniest third mic the show has ever had. The show is in great shape and will be on the air exactly as it is now for a long time, thankfully.

[sailor]

Fez is sounding stronger...

than?

[yojimbo7248]

than?

than a year ago. Those shows before Thanksgiving were fantastic. Fez is sounding great. I think it is safe to say Fez is finally back. That Friday show before Thanksgiving was Fez sounding just as good as I have ever heard him.

[yojimbo7248]

The show is clearly on an upswing. No way will it break apart in Feb. We will have at least 5 more years of great radio from the buddays

[disneyspy]

good point. Do we taxpayers pay for your life of radio listening, golf playing luxury, spy? Are you on welfare?

if you treat everyday like a weekend,life becomes one long vacation

[paulisded]

You think they'd just pull some random schlub off the street to co-host with Ron? If anyone co-hosts with Ron, it'll be someone we've heard before and know Ron has a rapport with.

Jennifer Hutt???

Please, God, no.

[midwestjeff]

than?

and Sam.

[midwestjeff]

ha,i'm such a fan of the old ron and ron show i went checked out what ron diaz was up to,alas it looks like he's doing alright in the florida sun and wont be going to new york to give us the show we deserve

You don't DESERVE shit, old man. Well, I guess you do deserve your social security. After all,
you've paid into the system for fifty years or something. Enjoy your monthly check and stop trying to buy steaks.
Porterhouse ain't in your monthly budget, Grandpa.

[TripleSkeet]

than a year ago. Those shows before Thanksgiving were fantastic. Fez is sounding great. I think it is safe to say Fez is finally back. That Friday show before Thanksgiving was Fez sounding just as good as I have ever heard him.

What the fuck show are you listening to??!?!??

[NewYorkDragons80]

What the fuck show are you listening to??!?!??

Fez has been having more good days than bad lately. He bottomed out just before the infamous Skippy show and he's been on an upswing ever since.

[spoon]

Fez has been having more good days than bad lately. He bottomed out just before the infamous Skippy show and he's been on an upswing ever since.

not as good as yojimbo makes it sound

he's still nowhere near where he was in the past

[Old Gravy Leg]

Sirius can always be counted on to go cheap,they hire interns to be producers after all. They will not hire a new sidekick,Ron has already shown he can go it alone and since there is no ratings,listener numbers don't matter. Sirius just wants a show to air for the least amount of money,the heat Ron gets for interviews is just a bonus.
Ron has carried fez long enough and I think even the suits have figured out they are paying two guys for one guy talking.I didn't hear the whole Feb. deadline talk,but after reading this whole thread,the speculation about a major shift in the show seems valid.

Listening to R&F and O&A both shows seem to have lost the energy and passion for radio,perhaps it's the Sirius suits,having FU money,or just getting older,(they are all over 50 or close to it) and wanting something new to do.

[spoon]

can a show create enough hype and fans that originates on sat versus terrestrial radio of old?

while I'm sure o/a and r/f garnered some new fans that never heard of them via xm/sirius, but nothing substantial and I'd argue so many are truck drivers that look for talk radio to get through their long days and again not huge numbers

[TripleSkeet]

Fez has been having more good days than bad lately. He bottomed out just before the infamous Skippy show and he's been on an upswing ever since.

HE DOESNT FUCKING TALK!!! What do you consider a good day? One where he doesnt just start bawling on air??? Unless the conversation has something to do with faggots, the guy pretty much dissapears.

[yojimbo7248]

Jennifer Hutt???

Please, God, no.

amen, brother. When she was a regular on the show, I developed a new appreciation for Fez. Anyone is better than her.

[yojimbo7248]

HE DOESNT FUCKING TALK!!! What do you consider a good day? One where he doesnt just start bawling on air??? Unless the conversation has something to do with faggots, the guy pretty much dissapears.

He has been talking a lot lately. I think Fez has been sounding great.

[yojimbo7248]

The big Feb announcement will be Fez finally saying he is gay. That will get him to talk even more. Being open about his homosexuality will boost him with extra confidence and he will be as entertaining, interesting on the air in 2012 as he has ever been.

The show will change in the sense that now you will have an openly gay co-host. Besides that, the show will stay exactly the same. No one is leaving to go to cartoon character voices.

[yojimbo7248]

HE DOESNT FUCKING TALK!!! What do you consider a good day? One where he doesnt just start bawling on air??? Unless the conversation has something to do with faggots, the guy pretty much dissapears.

He talks about news, elevators and college football.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Whatever the future brings. But we all know what needs to happen.

[YourAmishDaddy]

He has been talking a lot lately. I think Fez has been sounding great.

http://mysite.verizon.net/jimroth/uploaded_images/BagBob-749336.JPG

[disneyspy]

you could get a job, too

you can go lick your ass

[hanso]

can a show create enough hype and fans that originates on sat versus terrestrial radio of old?

while I'm sure o/a and r/f garnered some new fans that never heard of them via xm/sirius, but nothing substantial and I'd argue so many are truck drivers that look for talk radio to get through their long days and again not huge numbers

The only way folks tune it to talk is by mistake I would gather. As I don't think there is much promotion.

[fezident]

I keep hearing Ron say "there are no ratings". What does he mean by that?

Sat-Radio doesn't have a ratings system in place? Surely there MUST be a way to know how many people tune in.

Polls.... passwords.... online surveys.....or how about all out tracking/spying? Seems like it'd be fairly easy to find out how many people are listening. Even though they'd never know how many people are stealing the show... they should still be able to get an idea of the size of the fan base.

[Crispy123]

I keep hearing Ron say "there are no ratings". What does he mean by that?

Don't you get it? Ron doesn't know anything! HE is the one who made Fez a radio personality, HE is the one that made the stupid Interrobang and HE is the one that keeps interviewing Ronnie Spectror. The guy sux.

Fez is going to Tampa in Feb, but its not the end of the Ron & Fez show. He will team up with Ron Diaz and shit cum all over the face of "Ronny 2 shows".

Keep believing Fez is the problem. And buy some cotton candy while your walking the midway.

[hanso]

I keep hearing Ron say "there are no ratings". What does he mean by that?

Sat-Radio doesn't have a ratings system in place? Surely there MUST be a way to know how many people tune in.

Polls.... passwords.... online surveys.....or how about all out tracking/spying? Seems like it'd be fairly easy to find out how many people are listening. Even though they'd never know how many people are stealing the show... they should still be able to get an idea of the size of the fan base.

This is speculation on my part, but if they could do that there would not be any stealing the show there would be some way to block it.

[disneyspy]

This is speculation on my part, but if they could do that there would not be any stealing the show there would be some way to block it.

REALLY? i know of 6 different places where you can hear the show online for free,i'd bet half the people listen that way

[epo]

REALLY? i know of 6 different places where you can hear the show online for free,i'd bet half the people listen that way

If you know of a way I can listen via my iPhone for free, I would appreciate said info via pm.

[Old Gravy Leg]

can a show create enough hype and fans that originates on sat versus terrestrial radio of old?
while I'm sure o/a and r/f garnered some new fans that never heard of them via xm/sirius, but nothing substantial and I'd argue so many are truck drivers that look for talk radio to get through their long days and again not huge numbers

That's me, I drive a Truck,having only occasionally hearing O&A or R&F on terr. radio when going through their markets. Now the listeners to either show are the hardcore "listening forever" fan or a truck driver,I think that's why Opie has been talking about the shows lack of heat lately, the fan base has dwindled and spread out across the country. Sat radio is like being put out to pasture.

I keep hearing Ron say "there are no ratings". What does he mean by that?
Sat-Radio doesn't have a ratings system in place? Surely there MUST be a way to know how many people tune in.

That was Sat radio's first mistake,not putting in the radios a way to track listeners habits. They could have done it but it was too costly as well as privacy concerns. Polls and surveys can be manipulated,the only ways to sort of track listeners is the online feed and how many calls come in to the show. the mindset in sat. radio is that ratings don't matter because people pay for the service.

[sailor]

REALLY? i know of 6 different places where you can hear the show online for free,i'd bet half the people listen that way

he meant a way to track it.

[sailor]

the mindset in sat. radio is that ratings don't matter because people pay for the service.

yeah, pretty sure that's ron's point. they don't care how many listen to any particular show, just the overall subs.

[TripleSkeet]

He talks about news, elevators and college football.

Theres a difference between "talks about" and "reads".

[disneyspy]

he meant a way to track it.

doh! ya i guess i decoded that wrong

[fezident]

What's the latest news -if any- about the end of the show as we know it?

[sailor]

What's the latest news -if any- about the end of the show as we know it?

Ron feels fine.

[ozzie]

Ron feels fine.

I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did at this.

[sailor]

I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did at this.

Yeah, I'm embarrassed for you.

[regulator]

Seemed like there was another "hint" yesterday. A caller asked if Fez was going to reveal his secret in 2012 and Ron started talking about the oft-mentioned "February" date but made an interesting comment that maybe some other big change would happen at that time. Then there was talk about a listener from Florida making a "spur of the moment" move to a new city and life. The way Ronnie mentioned it, it was almost as if he was hinting about Fezzie doing the same thing. Of course, this could all just be another "work" but it sure seems like Ronnie was hinting at something big happening.

What's the latest news -if any- about the end of the show as we know it?

[Fillmore Slim]

If you know of a way I can listen via my iPhone for free, I would appreciate said info via pm.


Sirius offers 7 day free trials. Sign up using a "10 minute email" address and you're good to go. Repeat once a week and you have a free sub.

[cougarjake13]

10 minute email?

[keithy_19]

10 minute email?

As opposed to the popular 9 minute email.

[Judge Smails]

As opposed to the popular 9 minute email.

http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/7minuteabs.jpg

[fezident]

:clap::lol::clap:

[Fillmore Slim]

10 minute email?
Technically it's "10 minute mail".

[Captain Geech]

Way overdue. Fuck Fez.

[helterskeletor]

On the 9th after Fezzie's breakdown Ron mentioned that Fez was "blowing an opportunity for all of us." It comes up briefly but I'm a freak so I caught it. I don't care what happens to Fez, but Ronnie needs to be on air.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I think February will be Joe Poo's return from extended vacation, or Fez and Earl will have sex live on Paltalk, or intern Wild Thing will have sex with Swiss Miss, or Billy Staples's consummation of a relationship with Lobster Claws. Those are all as likely to happen as anything speculated here.

[mourning_radio]

I'm sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place (I know the board is understandably strict about that), but I just signed up for an account and am not allowed to post a new thread.

I got in to R&F back in the WNEW days, kept up during the WJFK days, and kinda lost track after that...I don't have XM/Sirius, but I've managed to snag a few XM episodes and/or bits here and there. I've also read a lot of this board to help me fill in the blanks.

Like many people on here, I'm dumbfounded by how awkward and bizarre the interaction between Ron and Fez has become. It depresses me, whether it's a bit or not. If it is a bit, it's more admirably tedious and drawn-out than anything Andy Kaufman ever did (since I gather the degeneration has been going on for years now).

Can anyone fill me in on how exactly this all started? A lot to ask, I know, but I'm a huge fan who kind of lost touch, and now that I'm back, it's like...visiting your childhood home and finding that it burned to the ground, or something. I'm lost.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

[PapaBear]

Fez started having emotional problems in DC for the most part. Just before leaving DC, he didn't handle the death of his grandmother well. Soon after starting at XM, he had his first of three heart attacks. That's when his paranoia and overall personality change went into high gear. The final straw was the death of his father just over a year ago. That's a very abbreviated version. Hope it helps.

And I THINK you will be able to post threads after ten posts, or being a member for 30 days.

[Jersey Hammer]

I know I speak the obvious when I say Ronny B is a genius. I respect his wit, his interviewing skills and his down to earth philosophy. And yet, I have zero respect for Fez. I've been a loyal listener/caller for the WNEW days, then the start of the XM years and I think I was holding on too tight to want to keep Fez in my heart. Simply put, he's selfish, he's a coward, and he's lazy. His bits are unresearched and uninspired (Lazy), His silence and non-engaging demeanor on air leaves Ron the burden of carrying a show (cowardice) and most of all his selfish attitude makes me sick. Ronny's appendix bursts: Fez stays home. Pepper Hicks and Zito get paid peanuts to co-host the show for Ron: Fez still cashes his huge paydays. But for me, the last straw came when Staples came in to push his shitty hackneyed X-mas CD. Fez, a chance for redemption, was asked who he preferred and he stabs Pepper and Zito in the backs by siding with Staples.

Now maybe I'm a Ham *n' egg'r and some of those could have been bits, but not all of them. Whatever happens in Feb. I wish the best for Ronny and Pepper. Zito will land on his feet and Fez, well, Your Mom's Box.

[TripleSkeet]

I know I speak the obvious when I say Ronny B is a genius. I respect his wit, his interviewing skills and his down to earth philosophy. And yet, I have zero respect for Fez. I've been a loyal listener/caller for the WNEW days, then the start of the XM years and I think I was holding on too tight to want to keep Fez in my heart. Simply put, he's selfish, he's a coward, and he's lazy. His bits are unresearched and uninspired (Lazy), His silence and non-engaging demeanor on air leaves Ron the burden of carrying a show (cowardice) and most of all his selfish attitude makes me sick. Ronny's appendix bursts: Fez stays home. Pepper Hicks and Zito get paid peanuts to co-host the show for Ron: Fez still cashes his huge paydays. But for me, the last straw came when Staples came in to push his shitty hackneyed X-mas CD. Fez, a chance for redemption, was asked who he preferred and he stabs Pepper and Zito in the backs by siding with Staples.

Now maybe I'm a Ham *n' egg'r and some of those could have been bits, but not all of them. Whatever happens in Feb. I wish the best for Ronny and Pepper. Zito will land on his feet and Fez, well, Your Mom's Box.

Wow. Dude every time I turn on the show I hope to hear Fez say hes retiring, but even Im not that vicious.

I just see a guy with alot of issues that basically cant do his job anymore. I will never be able to understand anxiety or depression but I do get that they are real and people suffer from them. He just doesnt want to walk away from a free paycheck and the only place where he has any friends to sit in his apartment all day with a cat. I get that. Does it hurt the show? Absolutely. But I still get it.

[spoon]

I know I speak the obvious when I say Ronny B is a genius. I respect his wit, his interviewing skills and his down to earth philosophy. And yet, I have zero respect for Fez. I've been a loyal listener/caller for the WNEW days, then the start of the XM years and I think I was holding on too tight to want to keep Fez in my heart. Simply put, he's selfish, he's a coward, and he's lazy. His bits are unresearched and uninspired (Lazy), His silence and non-engaging demeanor on air leaves Ron the burden of carrying a show (cowardice) and most of all his selfish attitude makes me sick. Ronny's appendix bursts: Fez stays home. Pepper Hicks and Zito get paid peanuts to co-host the show for Ron: Fez still cashes his huge paydays. But for me, the last straw came when Staples came in to push his shitty hackneyed X-mas CD. Fez, a chance for redemption, was asked who he preferred and he stabs Pepper and Zito in the backs by siding with Staples.

Now maybe I'm a Ham *n' egg'r and some of those could have been bits, but not all of them. Whatever happens in Feb. I wish the best for Ronny and Pepper. Zito will land on his feet and Fez, well, Your Mom's Box.

the guy was clearly in a better place when staples was around, so you find it odd he'd pick the guy who he actually liked and has some similar issues?

coward, lazy and selfish...more like some mental issues and clear anxiety right now

but I yield the floor to the Psychiatrist Dr. Jersey Hammer and his XM diagnosis fueled by hate for some odd reason...oh and some much unneeded Bennington ass sucking

[PapaBear]

Give him a break. It took him almost ten years to come up with an opinion on a sandwich. :blink:

[spoon]

Give him a break. It took him almost ten years to come up with an opinion on a sandwich. :blink:

:lol:

[mourning_radio]

Fez started having emotional problems in DC for the most part. Just before leaving DC, he didn't handle the death of his grandmother well. Soon after starting at XM, he had his first of three heart attacks. That's when his paranoia and overall personality change went into high gear. The final straw was the death of his father just over a year ago. That's a very abbreviated version. Hope it helps.

And I THINK you will be able to post threads after ten posts, or being a member for 30 days.

Thank you for the info. I'm still kinda trying to take it all in. I listen to the old stuff CONSTANTLY at home, and just recently decided to see what was up with the show these days...it was something of a rude awakening. Almost as bad as when they went off the air in NY.

Ah, well...guess we'll see.

[spoon]

Thank you for the info. I'm still kinda trying to take it all in. I listen to the old stuff CONSTANTLY at home, and just recently decided to see what was up with the show these days...it was something of a rude awakening. Almost as bad as when they went off the air in NY.

Ah, well...guess we'll see.

it is unfortunate, but things change and not always for the best

[mourning_radio]

Sigh...I hate change (in general, and especially in this case).

I tell ya, when those guys were on WNEW, I was like a pig in shit. I couldn't believe something so great was happening and I was there to hear it.

Crazy how much can change in a decade.

Oh, shit...I'm old. Gotta go.

[Chigworthy]

it is unfortunate, but things change and not always for the best

You've got to take it one day at a time.

[underdog]

the guy was clearly in a better place when staples was around, so you find it odd he'd pick the guy who he actually liked and has some similar issues?

coward, lazy and selfish...more like some mental issues and clear anxiety right now

but I yield the floor to the Psychiatrist Dr. Jersey Hammer and his XM diagnosis fueled by hate for some odd reason...oh and some much unneeded Bennington ass sucking

It doesn't seem super hate filled to me. He's just saying Fez is lazy and selfish, two things Ron has called him out on. If they start talking about Fez's problems, he's suddenly involved in the show.

the opening of Friday's show was amazing, with the way Ron was purposely pointing out how the "give and take" is supposed to go and Fez would say nothing back to him.

[Jersey Hammer]

:lol:

Finally on parole so I concur about the sandwich comment. That said, your points about anxiety and depression are well taken. Clearly, I'm no doctor; however, it's not hatred that fueled that post, just frustration. Frustration, because It's difficult to hear the show I love limp on as it does. I used to be a strict O &A fan, but Ron & Fez grew on me in a big big way. 2005 reaffirmed that happiness and now over the years, it gets worse. And no, I'm no fly on the wall so I cannot appreciate the full story of Fez's challenge...But at what point is it enough? You show up to a worksite, but you don't even swing a hammer (pun intended). People lose patience. It's clear I've lost mine with Fez.

And yes, I praise Ron from turning shit into gold; It's why I'm compelled to listen everyday. But how long can he keep running on this output before burnout sets in for him?*

And thank you for the floor gentlemen.*

[Recyclerz]

Thank you for the info. I'm still kinda trying to take it all in. I listen to the old stuff CONSTANTLY at home, and just recently decided to see what was up with the show these days...it was something of a rude awakening. Almost as bad as when they went off the air in NY.

Ah, well...guess we'll see.

I think PapaBear's summary is a good one but leaves out one important factor. A few years ago Fez announced to Ron (& a handful of others) off the air that he had what's come to be known as "The Secret." There have been a number of bits since then dropping asteroid sized hints that the Secret is that Fez self-identifies as a gay man. (Shocking, I know.) The catalyst for this belated self-discovery seems to have been Fez having a "crush"on one of the old WNEW producers that he seemingly hasn't gotten past. From the show the only thing that Fez has done since having his revelation is act like a wallflower at a few gay bars and pray for his Prince Charming to show up and even those tentative steps seem to have stopped with his other mental issues paralyzing him emotionally.

People have been calling in to the show regularly to express the same points you've raised here (with varying levels of tact and sensitivity) and I think it is fair to characterize Ron's responses as having evolved from "Fuck you caller - He's my friend and he'll be back" to the more recent I've tried everything I know how to do and Mgmt. doesn't care so this is where we are tone.

It is unfortunate, but things change and not always for the best

I think Spoon is right and the long-time listeners (like me and most of us here) have to glumly play the game of guessing when (not if) the final straw breaks the camel's back and what comes next for Ronnie B that we can get behind.

[mourning_radio]

I think PapaBear's summary is a good one but leaves out one important factor. A few years ago Fez announced to Ron (& a handful of others) off the air that he had what's come to be known as "The Secret." There have been a number of bits since then dropping asteroid sized hints that the Secret is that Fez self-identifies as a gay man. (Shocking, I know.) The catalyst for this belated self-discovery seems to have been Fez having a "crush"on one of the old WNEW producers that he seemingly hasn't gotten past. From the show the only thing that Fez has done since having his revelation is act like a wallflower at a few gay bars and pray for his Prince Charming to show up and even those tentative steps seem to have stopped with his other mental issues paralyzing him emotionally.

People have been calling in to the show regularly to express the same points you've raised here (with varying levels of tact and sensitivity) and I think it is fair to characterize Ron's responses as having evolved from "Fuck you caller - He's my friend and he'll be back" to the more recent I've tried everything I know how to do and Mgmt. doesn't care so this is where we are tone.



I think Spoon is right and the long-time listeners (like me and most of us here) have to glumly play the game of guessing when (not if) the final straw breaks the camel's back and what comes next for Ronnie B that we can get behind.

Yeah...I read a little bit about that whole "Secret" thing, and honestly, that just baffled me even further. Obviously, the whole "Fez is gay, wink wink" thing was a huge part of the whole fabric of the show, one of those it's-a-joke-but-it's-also-true things that made the show so great to listen to.

What I don't get is how someone could go from being SO comfortable joking about his sexuality (whether he's gay or not) to suddenly being so apparently neurotic about his sexuality. What I mean is, if you're majorly hung-up about being gay, you don't spend years and years and years as the butt of "we-all-know-you're-gay" jokes and then suddenly turn on a dime and freak out about it. It's just so hard to wrap my head around.

As I said somewhere above, if all of this is a bit, I admire their fucking commitment to absurdism.

Listening to the old Fez as we speak...

[Bob Weir]

I can really relate to Ron in this whole situation. It's not easy carrying a has been on your back. If anyone knows that, it's me.

[IamFogHat]

I can really relate to Ron in this whole situation. It's not easy carrying a has been on your back. If anyone knows that, it's me.


Why?

[Crispy123]

Why?

Great question!

[sailor]

As I've said before, todd went from playing the fez character to becoming fez. The fez character was a fun, over-the-top gay character. Then he came to identify himself as fez, realizing he was gay, and it wasn't as fun in reality. That's why when he played the fun, over-the-top gay character frank Watson he was able to enjoy himself on the air once again.

[stormy1065]

If he would just say it some if the shame he feels would go away. He can't come out to his dad now too.More guilt.

[Chigworthy]

You've got to take the good with the bad.

[A.J.]

You've got to take the good with the bad.

You take them both and there you have...the Facts of Life.

[IamFogHat]

You take them both and there you have...the Facts of Life.

Jo was hot as fuck
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[Adolf]

"Is FEB 2012 the End of Ron and Fez?"

i hope so

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/image.php?u=24842&dateline=1274495264

[SonOfSmeagol]

I hope not. was hooked probably within 1 minute of hearing the show on WJFK way back. catch it very infrequently now - wish there was more time. but, when I can, it never ever fails to entertain. what more can you ask?

that said, the line between bit and reality seems to have blurred over time and I can only hope that all can find their personal peace.

[fezident]

I've slipped from being Fez's biggest fan, to losing all respect for him.*
For me... it almost approaches anger.*
He doesn't care and he doesn't try. *It bothers me that he doesn't even make a minimum effort to improve his situation, or to entertain us, or to even be polite. *

He does not "lock up". That's a cop out. People who are so terrified that they can't even speak, would also be unable to speak about being panicked. *He's magically not frozen solid when it's time to say the phrase "just having a bad day today. Ya know.... just.... um.... the usual panic. "

He's not doing the work.*
He's not taking the meds.*
And he's not "crazy".*
Everytime his back's against a wall, he spouts "I'm terrible! I'm the worst person in the world!! I'm worse than hitler!!"
To which Ron will reply, "no you're not, Fezzie...".*
-Fez sees that as a victory- and I resent him for playing that game.
It's weak shit.*

[fezident]

What thee fuck??!
I don't know why or how all that weird formatting and punctuation got added to my above post.

Weird.

[disneyspy]

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[spoon]

It doesn't seem super hate filled to me. He's just saying Fez is lazy and selfish, two things Ron has called him out on. If they start talking about Fez's problems, he's suddenly involved in the show.

the opening of Friday's show was amazing, with the way Ron was purposely pointing out how the "give and take" is supposed to go and Fez would say nothing back to him.

by this logic anything Ron says goes and I not in that camp sorry

he's a funny guy with some good insight sure, but he's far from unflawed and without fault in all this. Ron calling him out on two things is hardly a proof source, especially since he may drive some of it.

[spoon]

As I've said before, todd went from playing the fez character to becoming fez. The fez character was a fun, over-the-top gay character. Then he came to identify himself as fez, realizing he was gay, and it wasn't as fun in reality. That's why when he played the fun, over-the-top gay character frank Watson he was able to enjoy himself on the air once again.

Age and time brings issues to the forefront as well. I truly thing getting older has had a HUGE impact on Fez's situation, especially tied to his health concerns over the past few years. Tie this into the possible fact he really is a virgin in any sexual context and you basically have an later middle aged man with the sexual hangups of a junior high school girl tied to the confusion of what happened and overall sexuality issues.

[spoon]

I've slipped from being Fez's biggest fan, to losing all respect for him.*
For me... it almost approaches anger.*
He doesn't care and he doesn't try. *It bothers me that he doesn't even make a minimum effort to improve his situation, or to entertain us, or to even be polite. *

He does not "lock up". That's a cop out. People who are so terrified that they can't even speak, would also be unable to speak about being panicked. *He's magically not frozen solid when it's time to say the phrase "just having a bad day today. Ya know.... just.... um.... the usual panic. "

He's not doing the work.*
He's not taking the meds.*
And he's not "crazy".*
Everytime his back's against a wall, he spouts "I'm terrible! I'm the worst person in the world!! I'm worse than hitler!!"
To which Ron will reply, "no you're not, Fezzie...".*
-Fez sees that as a victory- and I resent him for playing that game.
It's weak shit.*

I'm more confused by the lack of understanding of depression and anxiety versus the punctuation and formatting issues with the above. Seriously, it's pretty much devoid of any knowledge of mental health issues altogether, all wrapped up in some strange anger as if the guy would WANT to have this problem and not be what he clearly could if not hindered by whatever he's going through. He was hilarious in the past, never lazy, so why would the guy just up and choose to be that and fake this so people like yourself can just blast the guy for losing his mojo. It happens, and I do feel for the guy.

[underdog]

by this logic anything Ron says goes and I not in that camp sorry

he's a funny guy with some good insight sure, but he's far from unflawed and without fault in all this. Ron calling him out on two things is hardly a proof source, especially since he may drive some of it.

I don't disagree with you.

[hanso]

Ron can call it the Ron & Todd show somedays, be fine with me.

[fezident]

I'm more confused by the lack of understanding of depression and anxiety versus the punctuation and formatting issues with the above. Seriously, it's pretty much devoid of any knowledge of mental health issues altogether, all wrapped up in some strange anger as if the guy would WANT to have this problem and not be what he clearly could if not hindered by whatever he's going through. He was hilarious in the past, never lazy, so why would the guy just up and choose to be that and fake this so people like yourself can just blast the guy for losing his mojo. It happens, and I do feel for the guy.

I understand Fez completely.
I sincerely feel that it is you who does not understand. (my original point, that is)

Fez is not doing the work. Literally not doing it. He's not trying. He's not even pretending to. He is NOT doing the barest minimum of what he needs to do to get healthy. We're talking about a man who IS choosing to be unhappy. We're talking about a man that is, supposedly, afraid of elevators... who elected to live in a tall building with an elevator... in a building that is located on tiny island that requires a subway (another fear to deal with) to get to it... and, get this, one of the few places in the United States that is reachable by an air Tramway! (another fear to deal with) Amazingly, Fez is one of the elite few who could afford to own a home anywhere in Manhattan. He could live on the first floor of any building, and walk to work within minutes. He is one of the few people on earth who get to talk into a mic for a living, and he has been frozen for years. He is CHOOSING to have that job. (instead of simply reading the news on another station, or moving to a gay-themed station, or.... dare I say it... get a REAL job.)

It's not like we're talking about Rain Man here. We're talking about a guy who has, literally, a world of options.


My "strange" anger stems only from that it is, in fact, his job to entertain me. In much the same way that it is a waiters job to serve me. If that waiter was bad at her job, I'd complain about that too.
I love Ron and Pep. And Dave. etc etc. So... the "just stop listening" argument doesn't apply here.

Depression, anxiety, and panic disorders are real. And the people who suffer from it need help and medication. I wouldn't let a blind man be an airplane pilot. And I wouldn't want a depressed selective-mute host a comedy-based radio talk show.

[Jersey Hammer]

Age and time brings issues to the forefront as well. I truly thing getting older has had a HUGE impact on Fez's situation, especially tied to his health concerns over the past few years. Tie this into the possible fact he really is a virgin in any sexual context and you basically have an later middle aged man with the sexual hangups of a junior high school girl tied to the confusion of what happened and overall sexuality issues.

It's not my place to understand why you defend Fez as hard as you do. And yes, it is very easy to attack someone who clearly cannot defend themselves. But ask yourself, if you were tasked with doing all the work while someone sits there (for years now) and adds no value to the end product but still collects the reward, would you sit there and take it? I already know the answer if it was me. It's a failed marriage and I truly believe that when it does end, and it will, "Fez's Phobia" will become less severe and he'll start doing the work. But by then 2 things may happen: Fez will do the work out of necessity, not passion and the output will be junk or It will be too late and Sirius will move on from Fez, give Ron another co-host or just give him the RBI and unmasked shows.

We know Dave was his crutch after his heart attack, and he's been even lazier since Dave left. Dave sucks ass at comedy but at least he put the work in.

[TooLowBrow]

fez isnt lazy!!

[disneyspy]

to say you understand someone completely is insane

[Foster]

to say you understand someone completely is insane

I know exactly what you mean!

[disneyspy]

I know exactly what you mean!

you always have

[Chigworthy]

I know exactly what you mean!

you always have

You guys come off like British cigarettes.

[spoon]

I think many are off in their rundown on what I'm staying here. First fezident, I never said stop listening. So not sure how that tied into OUR discussion in any way. I simply feel the situation is clearly misunderstood, and we don't know all the facts, not to mention Ron can do something about this if he really wanted to. It's like keeping close to the weak animal in any herd, he's less at risk bc of it and you maintain alpha status much more easily when you have someone to kick around and blame for everything. I hardly think Ron puts as much work into the show, it's just easy for him. He all but admits it too, while Fez keeps trying but just falls flat on his face. It has a lot to do with the new direction/topics usually involved with the show not being Fez fortes too. Not to mention he rarely gets true support as in the past to help out his bits/odd takes out there. Pep will joke here and there to help out, but it usually ends up being a rip fez apart bit, while anything Ron addresses becomes this magical take on life that everyone in the studio latches on to like a newborn at their mother's tit.

[spoon]

It's not my place to understand why you defend Fez as hard as you do. And yes, it is very easy to attack someone who clearly cannot defend themselves. But ask yourself, if you were tasked with doing all the work while someone sits there (for years now) and adds no value to the end product but still collects the reward, would you sit there and take it? I already know the answer if it was me. It's a failed marriage and I truly believe that when it does end, and it will, "Fez's Phobia" will become less severe and he'll start doing the work. But by then 2 things may happen: Fez will do the work out of necessity, not passion and the output will be junk or It will be too late and Sirius will move on from Fez, give Ron another co-host or just give him the RBI and unmasked shows.

We know Dave was his crutch after his heart attack, and he's been even lazier since Dave left. Dave sucks ass at comedy but at least he put the work in.

So it's not so much I'm defending Fez, it's more I won't join the pile on for many reasons including how Ron has been implicit in his downfall/issues at times. I know the guy does probably care about Fez, but on the air isn't the place to have the talks they do if it was all on the up and up. I'd like to know what work Ron actually does now for the ron and fez show outside of showing up and rolling better than Fez? In terms of work, Fez does a ton but it just doesn't land any longer and it surely hasn't been supported by his team. So it's a disaster they set up and he becomes the joke, hence making life a touch easier for the others as they just blame him for anything involving the show off.

The guy surely needs to make some adjustments in his life, no doubt. Yet I'm not going to just bury him or follow Ronnie's lead and shit on the guy all day long bc he has some mental health issues. If he truly does, Ron being a true friend should intervene and find him true help. He could easily be a behind the scenes guy if Ron pushed for it, but right now they want him to kick around and act like he's still the second mic when we all know he's fallen from grace for years. They are figuratively letting him bleed out on air over the course of the last few years.

[IamFogHat]

You guys come off like British cigarettes.

Haha! Callback!

[fezident]

Spoon...
I am not one of the Bennington nutswingers that thinks Ron is "brilliant', nor a "god", nor even particularly logical or consistent. He IS funny, interesting, and entertaining... but my respect for him definitely ends there. (the man enjoys King Of Queens and Seinfeld and The Beatles and The Stones and Motown, and then bashes other people for being too "maaaaainstreeeam!" when they mention their personal tastes.)
I agree that he does not put in a lot (any!) time on the day to day content of the show but, he DEFINITELY uses his personal time to read books written by future guests, as well as see their movies etc etc. I think it's safe to say that he puts in his fair share of effort.

As for Fez, I am amazed and confused by his ability to sit next to somebody who is talking, and almost never even utter a "yep"... "I know"... "wow!"... "ya don't say." etc etc.
It's not like Fez had a stroke and can't speak anymore. He's just, well, not doing the work.
He owes it to himself (and Ron.. and the audience) to at the very least -for example- watch the Grammys or the State Of The Union, or WHATEVER big event happened the night before... if for no other reason than the blogs & callers & Ron are going to want to talk about it. This is where, yeah, I do feel like I can judge the guy. He's frightened to leave his home, all the wants to do is get home before the sun goes down, and he can't force himself to watch a TV show that 20 million people are watching?? Of course he can. He just won't. He's in a rut, and yes... I think he enjoys it. Not the same way WE enjoy things that bring us pleasure but, in his own way, Fez just wants to have this identity as "the guy with problems". Nothing makes Fez happier than when gets sick, or has a GENUINE tragedy. He loves to cry. He hates when things are fine. The happiest I've ever heard him was the day after he was in hospital. Ron called Fezzie's hospital room, on the air, so Fez could tell everyone how he's doing. Fez sounded AMAZING. He was elated. It actually knocked Ron on his heels for a moment. Fez was lovin' it.


(no YOU didn't tell me to stop listening. That was a bit of a pre-emptive statement. Usually.... a gripe about ANY program is met with a chorus of "so don't listen! change the station!" . I apologize if that part of my earlier post appeared douchebaggy.
I am a fan of the show since 2000, and it definitely does make me happy. I've only recently had my fill of the "what's goin' with you Big Cat? Havin' a tough day??" "...ummm.... just dealing with a little panic." exchange that seems to happen 3x a week. It's boring.
I enjoy the show the most when Fez "isn't there".)

[Dude!]

writing a book, Freud?

[disneyspy]

writing a book, Freud?

me thinks he doth protest to much

[IamFogHat]

So...He's gay.

[Crispy123]

To pretend you know who does what either on the air or behind the scenes is nuts. To listen to something you don't enjoy is also nuts.

I like listening to the show so I accept the fact that every jackass that can operate a phone or keyboard is going to give their critique of the show.

I especially like the fact that these jackasses do exactly what Ron says Fez shouldn't do, beat up Fez instead of telling Ron what he's doing wrong.

[AF Mike]

So it's not so much I'm defending Fez, it's more I won't join the pile on for many reasons including how Ron has been implicit in his downfall/issues at times. I know the guy does probably care about Fez, but on the air isn't the place to have the talks they do if it was all on the up and up. I'd like to know what work Ron actually does now for the ron and fez show outside of showing up and rolling better than Fez? In terms of work, Fez does a ton but it just doesn't land any longer and it surely hasn't been supported by his team. So it's a disaster they set up and he becomes the joke, hence making life a touch easier for the others as they just blame him for anything involving the show off.

The guy surely needs to make some adjustments in his life, no doubt. Yet I'm not going to just bury him or follow Ronnie's lead and shit on the guy all day long bc he has some mental health issues. If he truly does, Ron being a true friend should intervene and find him true help. He could easily be a behind the scenes guy if Ron pushed for it, but right now they want him to kick around and act like he's still the second mic when we all know he's fallen from grace for years. They are figuratively letting him bleed out on air over the course of the last few years.

Come on join in. Dogpile on the rabbit!

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[fezident]

Ha.
Love it.

[spoon]

Spoon...
I am not one of the Bennington nutswingers that thinks Ron is "brilliant', nor a "god", nor even particularly logical or consistent. He IS funny, interesting, and entertaining... but my respect for him definitely ends there. (the man enjoys King Of Queens and Seinfeld and The Beatles and The Stones and Motown, and then bashes other people for being too "maaaaainstreeeam!" when they mention their personal tastes.)
I agree that he does not put in a lot (any!) time on the day to day content of the show but, he DEFINITELY uses his personal time to read books written by future guests, as well as see their movies etc etc. I think it's safe to say that he puts in his fair share of effort.

As for Fez, I am amazed and confused by his ability to sit next to somebody who is talking, and almost never even utter a "yep"... "I know"... "wow!"... "ya don't say." etc etc.
It's not like Fez had a stroke and can't speak anymore. He's just, well, not doing the work.
He owes it to himself (and Ron.. and the audience) to at the very least -for example- watch the Grammys or the State Of The Union, or WHATEVER big event happened the night before... if for no other reason than the blogs & callers & Ron are going to want to talk about it. This is where, yeah, I do feel like I can judge the guy. He's frightened to leave his home, all the wants to do is get home before the sun goes down, and he can't force himself to watch a TV show that 20 million people are watching?? Of course he can. He just won't. He's in a rut, and yes... I think he enjoys it. Not the same way WE enjoy things that bring us pleasure but, in his own way, Fez just wants to have this identity as "the guy with problems". Nothing makes Fez happier than when gets sick, or has a GENUINE tragedy. He loves to cry. He hates when things are fine. The happiest I've ever heard him was the day after he was in hospital. Ron called Fezzie's hospital room, on the air, so Fez could tell everyone how he's doing. Fez sounded AMAZING. He was elated. It actually knocked Ron on his heels for a moment. Fez was lovin' it.


(no YOU didn't tell me to stop listening. That was a bit of a pre-emptive statement. Usually.... a gripe about ANY program is met with a chorus of "so don't listen! change the station!" . I apologize if that part of my earlier post appeared douchebaggy.
I am a fan of the show since 2000, and it definitely does make me happy. I've only recently had my fill of the "what's goin' with you Big Cat? Havin' a tough day??" "...ummm.... just dealing with a little panic." exchange that seems to happen 3x a week. It's boring.
I enjoy the show the most when Fez "isn't there".)

To me, if Fez watched his shows and touched on things that interest him Ron would still just shit on it with it ending in utter failure bc that's the way they interact now. Ron may fain interest, but it's not real. Just as the show has moved past most things that interest Fez as well. This show is MUCH more based on Ron's interest in cinema, music and interviewing those involved with both. I care about the music side, but not so much on the directors and others. Fez has seemingly little to no interests in common with Ron and hence the show at this point, and bc of this he's been alienated in more ways than one.

If you don't like the show when Fez "isn't there", I not sure how you aren't loving the show versus complaining about it. The guy is on the outs in every way on his own show. From HTG coming in and shitting on him in her normal passive aggressive pile on way, the others on the show also taking their queues from Ron and outright fucking with Fez at almost every turn. The only guy/norm on the show who doesn't regularly shit on him is really pepper, but even he gets in on the act here and there when group think in the room is strong.

[fezident]

My complaint isn't that Fez isn't there. When he's not participating is when the show has the most momentum. I like that.
It's that I have to hear about Fez's problems several times a week. THAT part of the show- which is now adding up to a couple of hours a week- is not funny, entertaining, (thanks to it's redundancy) or even interesting.

I absolutely HATE how everyone needles Fez. I hate how tiresome and boring it's become.

[RADIO-SHARK]

I think if Fez was paid more money, he,d interact more.

[spankyfrank]

I think if Fez was paid more money, he,d interact more.


I miss attempting to block your calls. :bye:

[OGC]

I think if Fez was paid more money, he,d interact more.


I miss attempting to block your calls. :bye:

isn't there a way you can block his posts here ?

[spoon]

isn't there a way you can block his posts here ?


not a chance


the shark needs free reign

[PapaBear]

not a chance


the shark needs free reign
We have the same policy as the show. If he uses the Shark name, he's good. But if he tries to post as Phil, Steve, Dan, etc... :banning:

[Chigworthy]

Phil, Steve, Dan, etc... :banning:

...Skeet

[TripleSkeet]

...Skeet

LOL I get on air every time I call.

[Manning, Esq.]

We haven't heard the February "deadline" mentioned for a while. Either the event has dissolved, whatever it may have been, or the man behind the curtain said to stop hyping it.

[IamFogHat]

Do you think Ron looks at this every few days and just laughs at us maniacally?

[A.J.]

He used to.

[spankyfrank]

I don't think he likes the fez hate.

[RADIO-SHARK]

I miss attempting to block your calls. :bye:


you were a good soldier till the end......

[mourning_radio]

I dunno...I just can't beyond the fact that if this is a bit, it's a shitty and tedious one. I can appreciate the challenge of stringing a bit out for this long, and creating a whole alternate universe where one of the hosts is having a total breakdown...there's a certain absurdist genius to it. But it doesn't hold up when you compare it to classic Ron & Fez stuff from years back - there was a certain absurdist genius to THAT stuff, too,and it was just better and more fun to listen to.

Dark themes like depression and self-hatred definitely appeal to me - I just get them from other sources (music, films), not from a comedy radio show.

I don't really think it's a bit, in my personal opinion. I think it's just kind of a mess. I have lots of respect for Ron for never backing away from Fez, though. I don't think he's a dupe or that he's stupid for sticking by Fez and trying to wait it out. I think it's admirable, even if it results in a shitty show.

I don't intend to get in to the XM show, even though I probably could what with the internet and all. It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

Tomorrow is February, no? Perhaps they'll say something, and I'll read about it here.

[OGC]

We haven't heard the February "deadline" mentioned for a while. Either the event has dissolved, whatever it may have been, or the man behind the curtain said to stop hyping it.

I can't give an exact date but I'm pretty sure Ron mentioned it again within the last week.

[TripleSkeet]

I can't give an exact date but I'm pretty sure Ron mentioned it again within the last week.

He mentioned it today.

[Manning, Esq.]

Yep - They're coloring it as if we're waiting for Fez to break the silence and 'fess up about what gives. Based on history, I can't see Fezzie stalling too long, though.

[jimmyolsenblues]

.... I can't see Fezzie stalling too long, though.

I wish..I think Fez is so austistic/aspergers...etc...that he will never come out of the closet. The fact that Fez drove Jay Mohr away from the show absolutely kills me. The last thing on Fez's mind is doing something productive for the show.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Spoon...
I am not one of the Bennington nutswingers that thinks Ron is "brilliant', nor a "god", nor even particularly logical or consistent. He IS funny, interesting, and entertaining... but my respect for him definitely ends there. (the man enjoys King Of Queens and Seinfeld and The Beatles and The Stones and Motown, and then bashes other people for being too "maaaaainstreeeam!" when they mention their personal tastes.)
I agree that he does not put in a lot (any!) time on the day to day content of the show but, he DEFINITELY uses his personal time to read books written by future guests, as well as see their movies etc etc. I think it's safe to say that he puts in his fair share of effort.

As for Fez, I am amazed and confused by his ability to sit next to somebody who is talking, and almost never even utter a "yep"... "I know"... "wow!"... "ya don't say." etc etc.
It's not like Fez had a stroke and can't speak anymore. He's just, well, not doing the work.
He owes it to himself (and Ron.. and the audience) to at the very least -for example- watch the Grammys or the State Of The Union, or WHATEVER big event happened the night before... if for no other reason than the blogs & callers & Ron are going to want to talk about it. This is where, yeah, I do feel like I can judge the guy. He's frightened to leave his home, all the wants to do is get home before the sun goes down, and he can't force himself to watch a TV show that 20 million people are watching?? Of course he can. He just won't. He's in a rut, and yes... I think he enjoys it. Not the same way WE enjoy things that bring us pleasure but, in his own way, Fez just wants to have this identity as "the guy with problems". Nothing makes Fez happier than when gets sick, or has a GENUINE tragedy. He loves to cry. He hates when things are fine. The happiest I've ever heard him was the day after he was in hospital. Ron called Fezzie's hospital room, on the air, so Fez could tell everyone how he's doing. Fez sounded AMAZING. He was elated. It actually knocked Ron on his heels for a moment. Fez was lovin' it.


(no YOU didn't tell me to stop listening. That was a bit of a pre-emptive statement. Usually.... a gripe about ANY program is met with a chorus of "so don't listen! change the station!" . I apologize if that part of my earlier post appeared douchebaggy.
I am a fan of the show since 2000, and it definitely does make me happy. I've only recently had my fill of the "what's goin' with you Big Cat? Havin' a tough day??" "...ummm.... just dealing with a little panic." exchange that seems to happen 3x a week. It's boring.
I enjoy the show the most when Fez "isn't there".)

this completely sums up how I feel..

I know Fez has medical and mental problems.

I do not believe in any way he can interact on any level without discussing his problems...

Its tired at this point.

I wish Ron would not resign with fez.

[Crash]

The DCRTV post notwithstanding, I half expected Ron to say (after two months of hinting that someone was leaving in February) that he was referring to Zito going to the Superbowl.

Maybe there is going to be a change...

[hanso]

An announcement is coming Feb. this is the end. It's over johnny.

[deliciousV]

An announcement is coming Feb. this is the end. It's over johnny.

I don't think it's over, but based on Fez's refusal to take meds and his recent admission that he doesn't even do the work the shrinks give him, it should be, at least in it's current form. I more suspect an announcement of a Leave of Absence. I don't see Ron shutting it down and leaving the others hanging, though he has surprised me before, like when he let Fez ruin his relationship with Jay Mohr, that annoyed and surprised me.

[Recyclerz]

If they only had a clip board the Glory Days would return.

C'mon, Mel - get them a clip board!!! :annoyed:

[IamFogHat]

I don't think it's over, but based on Fez's refusal to take meds and his recent admission that he doesn't even do the work the shrinks give him, it should be, at least in it's current form. I more suspect an announcement of a Leave of Absence. I don't see Ron shutting it down and leaving the others hanging, though he has surprised me before, like when he let Fez ruin his relationship with Jay Mohr, that annoyed and surprised me.

Wha?

[deliciousV]

Wha?

what part confused you darlin?

[hurlmon]

I don't think it's over........ I more suspect an announcement of a Leave of Absence. I don't see Ron shutting it down

this is what I am hoping for. The thought that maybe Ron made some sort of ultimatum with a feb deadline and fez is going to maybe get inpatient/way more aggressive help or a other person is coming onboard ( what? What? SiruisXm pays?) Really hoping for a leave of absence. I still have the dream/hope that we will hear old fez.


Love Fez but he is like my mother In-law. Just no idea how her crazy hurts others.

[narc]

Hi Buddies. I'm a listener from the old WJFK days. After reading this thread, it's kind of funny because of the outrage it provoked on the air from Ron and here on RF.net, but seven years later, it seems like Cameron Gray might have been on to something when he hotlined Giant Brian to ask if Fez was on the show.
I think it was easy to chalk up the problems Fez was having then to being depressed about living in Centreville or WJFK sucking or his grandmother dying and I don't think Ron had any idea how severe the problem was then, but it seems like it just kept going on. Even late into the WJFK tenure, the show became a lot about discussing Fez's inability to deal with his past. Either way, I hope Fez gets better. Taking a break might be the best thing for him, but it he also might be dead of a broken heart in a year. Not a good situation.

[PapaBear]

Damn. Haven't seen narc in ages! I don't remember Fez not really talking much at JFK. If I remember correctly, when that incident happened, Bobo (not the XM Bobo) was in the studio. I think Fez was quiet because Bobo was talking so much, and it was a conversation that annoyed Cameron. But damn, that was an awesome rant on Ron's part!

Here it is. (http://ronfez.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=2722)

[mourning_radio]

Damn. Haven't seen narc in ages! I don't remember Fez not really talking much at JFK. If I remember correctly, when that incident happened, Bobo (not the XM Bobo) was in the studio. I think Fez was quiet because Bobo was talking so much, and it was a conversation that annoyed Cameron. But damn, that was an awesome rant on Ron's part!

Here it is. (http://ronfez.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=2722)

...sorry to be this guy, but what "rant" are you referring to? I don't have XM and I'm just sorta trying to follow this saga on the board (partially because the show is kind of painful for me to listen to now, on a personal level, as crazy as that might sound).

Did something happen? Did something finally give? Did a nail break the camel's back...er...you know what I mean.

[PapaBear]

...sorry to be this guy, but what "rant" are you referring to? I don't have XM and I'm just sorta trying to follow this saga on the board (partially because the show is kind of painful for me to listen to now, on a personal level, as crazy as that might sound).

Did something happen? Did something finally give? Did a nail break the camel's back...er...you know what I mean.
The rant was from 2005 when they were on WJFK. I posted the link in my last post.

[jennysmurf]

The rant was from 2005 when they were on WJFK. I posted the link in my last post.

Poor Papabear, no one listens to him.

[PapaBear]

Poor Papabear, no one listens to him.
I know, right?

[cougarjake13]

So?

[narc]

I guess I don't know enough about these sorts of things, other than when you watch a family member go through something like this, there's nothing more painful.
Is there one moment where some sort of signal or trauma sets you down this path or is it something where this is always kind of there and just is more evident now?

[mourning_radio]

Apologies, PapaBear. I'm kind of slow when it comes to...most things.

So, no word yet on the February Surprise? Did Fez miraculously return to being a hilarious co-host today, by any chance?

A guy can hope, can't he...? Both for the sake of Fez and us poor slobs...

[underdog]

Very uncomfortable listening to Fez yesterday.

[sailor]

Very uncomfortable listening to Fez yesterday.

You should get a better chair or sumthin. Tss. Tss.

[underdog]

You should get a better chair or sumthin. Tss. Tss.

:laugh:

[JPMNICK]

Very uncomfortable listening to Fez yesterday.
what was he doing?

[underdog]

what was he doing?

Nothing. And Hicks wasn't even in. Ron kept going at him and he did nothing.

[fezident]

I am convinced that the Ron AND FEZ show as we know it is going to end.
Why?
Because these last few days... Fez has most certainly been trying to participate. I think this is his version (as sad as it is) of trying to seem valuable to the show. Of trying to be worth saving. Of "cramming for the test", if you will.

He knows that the end is nigh....and he's doing whatever he can.

[TjM]

So it's not so much I'm defending Fez, it's more I won't join the pile on for many reasons including how Ron has been implicit in his downfall/issues at times. I know the guy does probably care about Fez, but on the air isn't the place to have the talks they do if it was all on the up and up. I'd like to know what work Ron actually does now for the ron and fez show outside of showing up and rolling better than Fez? In terms of work, Fez does a ton but it just doesn't land any longer and it surely hasn't been supported by his team. So it's a disaster they set up and he becomes the joke, hence making life a touch easier for the others as they just blame him for anything involving the show off.

The guy surely needs to make some adjustments in his life, no doubt. Yet I'm not going to just bury him or follow Ronnie's lead and shit on the guy all day long bc he has some mental health issues. If he truly does, Ron being a true friend should intervene and find him true help. He could easily be a behind the scenes guy if Ron pushed for it, but right now they want him to kick around and act like he's still the second mic when we all know he's fallen from grace for years. They are figuratively letting him bleed out on air over the course of the last few years.

That's kinda why I stopped listening about a year ago.

[narc]

That's kinda why I stopped listening about a year ago.

The ultimate cringe radio. As if that's still a thing.

[TripleSkeet]

The ultimate cringe radio. As if that's still a thing.

Still fucking funny though. I laughed my ass off at Perfect Fez today. "So basically your perfect life would include fighting with your partner and complaining about it to your friends."

[IamFogHat]

Winter is coming.

[Crash]

Still fucking funny though. I laughed my ass off at Perfect Fez today. "So basically your perfect life would include fighting with your partner and complaining about it to your friends."

I'm living Fez's life.

[mourning_radio]

If you go the file library and download the clip called "update on Giant Brian", it makes for very awkward listening (in light of present circumstances).

Kinda got chills while listening to it. Just me?

[Old Gravy Leg]

Ron will still do radio,he needs the money for his cigars and Manhattan lifestyle, and radio has the perks of free films and swag, so don't worry he isn't going anywhere.

With fez being silent on a talk show, Ron has taken the center spot of deciding what is talked about,which is why it has evolved from a comedy show to a celebrity interview, arts and lifestyle show interspersed with some comedy. Ron is loyal to his friends,which is why fez has lasted so long,but no more Ron is done doing a show with a silent partner. Ron is looking to move on and do his own show now that he has a taste of doing a show that caters to his interests,and ratings don't matter so he can do whatever type of radio he wants.

If Fez doesn't leave, does it really matter? It's "the Ron Bennington and friends show" and has been for years.

[The Thadd]

I don't see the show ending (or atleast I hope) but I see it as the end for ol Fez. I love Fez and have always been a supporter of his, but the show needs a new FT co-host with Ron. Maybe Dave? Maybe Pep steps up? Maybe someone new entirely.. Whats ROnnie Diaz Doing>?