Superbowl XLVI Discussion/Watching Thread

[HBox]

Jesus Christ they just cross advertised like 17 companies in that last spot.

[spoon]

New England has DOUBLED their halftime lead so this thing is clearly in the bag right!?

:wink:



bad call Brady

[razorboy]

Real smooth Brady.

[Kevin]

Memo to Brady

You are not Eli.

No retard luck

[spoon]

gronk needed to play d at that point since he also didn't decide to come back to the qb or at least break off to the middle of the field

man the giants are getting REAL lucky right now

[HBox]

FUCK!!!!!!!!! Every timer the Giants fumble this postseason it falls right to them!

[HBox]

gronk needed to play d at that point since he also didn't decide to come back to the qb or at least break off to the middle of the field

man the giants are getting REAL lucky right now

I can't fault Brady too much. If Gronkowski is healthy he might even come down with that.

[spoon]

Jesus Christ they just cross advertised like 17 companies in that last spot.

which?

i missed a few

[Kevin]

I can't fault Brady too much. If Gronkowski is healthy he might even come down with that.

The point is that he is not..

So he should not have attempted that.

[spoon]

fuck this smash bs

awful

[HBox]

which?

i missed a few

The Time Warner ad. There were so many I don't even remember who else was in it.

[spoon]

The point is that he is not..

So he should not have attempted that.

this

and man is bradshaw sucking tonight

no rushing game at all for the giants...expected i guess

[spoon]

The Time Warner ad. There were so many I don't even remember who else was in it.

yah, missed that one

thankfully

[Kevin]

this

and man is bradshaw sucking tonight

no rushing game at all for the giants...expected i guess

Jacobs has been running it well too.

They need to stop with this Bradshaw nonsense.

[spoon]

themes are obviously dogs, babies any shared spots

[razorboy]

The Bud Light dog commercial was just stupid.

[Kevin]

Man Eli has been making some RISKY throws.

[spoon]

The Bud Light dog commercial was just stupid.

and it's been done before

[deliciousV]

The Bud Light dog commercial was just stupid.

best one yet! you're a stupid head.

[Kevin]

Holy Herman Edwards batman.

This won't come back to haunt them...

[spoon]

jesus, talk about prepared to say that!

Cris had a fucking graphic set up for it and all, even though Manningham was pushed outside AND was keeping his cushion from the safety and was breaking on a ball in the air

[spoon]

best one yet! you're a stupid head.

not even close!

the dead cat payoff com wins!

[spoon]

GREAT play

not PI...NO WAY

[HBox]

Wow. I really hope Ballard didn't fuck up his knee worse trying to get back in the game. That's such a horrible position for an guy.

[Kevin]

The refs officially have a Bet on NE.

How was that not pass Int?

His hands were draped all over his shoulder.

[HBox]

GREAT play

not PI...NO WAY

I agree. He had that timed perfectly.

[spoon]

Wow. I really hope Ballard didn't fuck up his knee worse trying to get back in the game. That's such a horrible position for an guy.

yah that was tough to watch even though I have to admire hime trying so hard to get in the game

[spoon]

man is that the same chick from the fiat commercial?

she's so smoking I might buy a kiyndai

[HBox]

The refs officially have a Bet on NE.

How was that not pass Int?

His hands were draped all over his shoulder.

Didn't get there early, got his hand on the ball, Manningham didn't come back for the ball. Lots of reasons.

[Kevin]

Enough with the goddaamn monkeys.

This was original 7 years ago

[spoon]

I agree. He had that timed perfectly.

if that's called just call everything and fucking have 100-98 scored games

great play

[razorboy]

Enough with the goddaamn monkeys.

This was original 7 years ago

Unoriginal as it may be, apes doing people things will always make me chuckle.

[deliciousV]

Enough with the goddaamn monkeys.

This was original 7 years ago

you know that'll be Ron's favorite

[spoon]

Enough with the goddaamn monkeys.

This was original 7 years ago

settle down wf you racist!




GREAT play call there

[spoon]

you know that'll be Ron's favorite

and battleship his most anticipated movie?

[HBox]

I would bet money on BenJarvus Green-Ellis fumbling before the game ends after what Al Michaels just said.

[Kevin]

Get up you bunch of goddamn Tucks.

clearly faking.

[spoon]

I can HONESTLY say I'm SHOCKED their hasn't been a Tebow commercial yet.



and wow, samsung went back to palm pilot technology and an awful band that sucked back then too

[spoon]

I would bet money on BenJarvus Green-Ellis fumbling before the game ends after what Al Michaels just said.

no chance

they've been saying that for weeks and he still holds it

and yah, enough of that giants

[spoon]

another great call after a fake injury to fuck with them


I had no interest in this game outside of having fun with the fanbase of either loser...but fake injuries like that annoy the fuck out of me

[deliciousV]

and battleship his most anticipated movie?

umm, no

[spoon]

tick
tock
tick
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[spoon]

oooooooh man!

welker?

[HBox]

OH WELKER!!! COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!

[HBox]

Fuck you Deion Branch! You play like a Hall of Famer against the Eagles in the Super Bowl and play like the invisible man tonight!

Fuck man. NE lost it right there.

[spoon]

wow, 88 yards and 3:46 down 2

can he do it again?

why do I see a turnover coming here?

:blink:

[spoon]

no no cris, where's his cushion?!

great pass/catch

[Kevin]

Dont fuck us refs

This is a catch.

[OGC]

why are they even questioning it. it is a catch

[spoon]

what's worse?

nbceeit or yesmo?

:wallbash:

[sailor]

No, that was not close to tyree.

[spoon]

why are they even questioning it. it is a catch

bc it was challenged?

[OGC]

who had the over on how many times they can mention David Tyree ?

[HBox]

why are they even questioning it. it is a catch

Why not at this point? Belichick will still have 2 timeouts and there wasn't enough time to take a close look with Eli rushing to the line. That was a huge play.

[spoon]

nice twist on complete bullshit for collinsworth on that one

[HBox]

How huge is that safety now? The Giants can go ahead with a FG because of it.

[spoon]

NE going to get time to answer?

[OGC]

Why not at this point? Belichick will still have 2 timeouts and there wasn't enough time to take a close look with Eli rushing to the line. That was a huge play.

I didn't mean Belichick, I meant the commentators, they were milking it.

[spoon]

How huge is that safety now? The Giants can go ahead with a FG because of it.

might not be enough though

[spoon]

if only NE had a kicker to help the Pats win this right?

bc it's clear the Giants Tynes is driving the Giants down the field right now!

[sailor]

How huge is that safety now? The Giants can go ahead with a FG because of it.

Without it, after a giants TD, NE could tie it with a fg.

[spoon]

missed fg

romo'd snap/hold

so much left to decide still

[sailor]

How do you go out of bounds there?!

[spoon]

i actually like the time to play call here

you can always run one like that

[HBox]

Yep, safety just about cost NE the game.

[spoon]

How do you go out of bounds there?!

had to get the first down first

it's not that big a deal to be honest

td here and you win

[HBox]

HOLY SHIT.

[spoon]

New England with a smart call here?

why didn't he drop?

[razorboy]

Bradshaw is a moron.

[HBox]

One minute and a timeout? This very doable for Brady.

[spoon]

still not going to be easy

but wtf Bradshaw?

[Kevin]

Stupid stupid stupid stupid.

Watch us lose here.

[Snoogans]

bradshaw is an asshole

[sailor]

Yeah, I think he was just stupid there, not that he had too much momentum.

[spoon]

the funny thing is they HAD to discuss it and Coughlin/Eli were on it

he showed they covered it but he chose NOT to lay down?

chip shot fg to win game over!

wtf?!

[spoon]

Jacobs looks like he won't even look at Bradshaw...he wants to punch him



ANOTHER drop!

wow

[spoon]

again!

wtf?

[KnoxHarrington]

That might be the first time I've ever seen scoring a touchdown be the stupid play.

[razorboy]

ANOTHER drop!

And another.

[HBox]

This fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK.

[spoon]

wow

should be past mid-field now but instead 4th down and 30+ ticks left

[OGC]

Patriots have them right where they want them

[spoon]

Huge play there

[HBox]

WHEW.

[spoon]

over the middle there?

wow

[spoon]

nicks like end here?

wow, almost interference there too

[sailor]

Just knock it down.

[spoon]

wow, gronk had a shot there!

Eli 2, Peyton 1

[HBox]

Super Bowl MVP AHMAD BRADSHAW WITH THE GAME WINNING TOUCHDOWN WOO HOO!!!!

[Kevin]

BOW DOWN TO THE CHAMPS!!!!

EliManning 2 SBS BITCHES!!!

EAT A COCK PRETTY BOY BRADY

[sailor]

And fuck you, Tom Brady.

[Misteriosa]

best failmary ever.

[spoon]

coughlin owns BB and Brady now

it's official

[spoon]

Super Bowl MVP AHMAD BRADSHAW WITH THE GAME WINNING TOUCHDOWN WOO HOO!!!!

ha!

Eli actually earned this MVP

awesome year and way to back up the early season quotes

[HBox]

Fuck you Wes Welker. YOU LOST THIS GAME.

[Kevin]

Super Bowls are NOT WON IN THE OFFSEASON
2004 draft 4 SBS

[spoon]

And fuck you, Tom Brady.

awful then and worse now repeated fanboy

[HBox]

Super Bowls are NOT WON IN THE OFFSEASON
2004 draft 4 SBS

I gotta listen to this shit for the next 9 months fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK.

[spoon]

Fuck you Wes Welker. YOU LOST THIS GAME.

can't even argue on that one too much

HUGE drop

[sailor]

awful then and worse now repeated fanboy

Ok. I like it.

[Snoogans]

eli just got himself into the fuckin HOF

holy shit

[spoon]

I gotta listen to this shit for the next 9 months fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK.

perhaps he'll finally change his awful avatar just for you too

[spoon]

eli just got himself into the fuckin HOF

holy shit

coughlin too?

they have two together and a pretty damn historic win against NE the first time



JET TOWN!

[HBox]

eli just got himself into the fuckin HOF

holy shit

It's fucking unbelievable. And this was really the first season where you can't point to a whole series of games and say he totally blew and yet I can't argue with you.

[underdog]

Prince was only five years ago.

Then I'm accurate. Best of the last 5 years.

[Snoogans]

coughlin too?

they have two together and a pretty damn historic win against NE the first time



JET TOWN!

i have to say yea, coughlin too.

[spoon]

fucking STOP Cris

[Snoogans]

It's fucking unbelievable. And this was really the first season where you can't point to a whole series of games and say he totally blew and yet I can't argue with you.

yea and he did it this game. not the D. eli was the MVP hands down. fuckin eli

[Kevin]

Tomas Brady MEET YOUR OWNER

HIS NAME IS ELI MANNING


ZERO NON CHEATING SBS!!!!

[Kevin]

coughlin too?

they have two together and a pretty damn historic win against NE the first time



JET TOWN!

2BS in 5 years or 2 AFC title fails???

Its a tough call.

[underdog]

ZERO NON CHEATING SBS!!!!

Seriously? You're worse than Hippo.

[spoon]

2BS in 5 years or 2 AFC title fails???

Its a tough call.

how about missing the playoffs 2 years in a row in one of the worst divisions in football only to extend their magnificent coach!

SD for the win!

[HBox]

And I was gonna have so much fun with that graphic from the Giants website yesterday announcing their SB win. Fuck.

[HBox]

God i hate this contrived everyone touches the trophy walk to the podium bullshit. The person holding the trophy always looks like everyone is grabbing his junk.

[spoon]

how about the turf mvp for those very nice fumble saving bounces?

[Snacks]

eli just got himself into the fuckin HOF

holy shit

Congrats Snoogs Eli proved me wrong to start this season. He had a great year and I agree he just punched his ticket to the HoF. When Im wrong Im man enough to admit it and I was wrong. He looked great all year and this post season.

[Snoogans]

And I was gonna have so much fun with that graphic from the Giants website yesterday announcing their SB win. Fuck.

you are one of the few eagles fans i respect. ironically triple skeet is also one cause he embraces everything he is and doesnt hide shit so i respect that too. So unlike what everyone else will do, i wont rip you on it. Esp since you knew it was coming for weeks now

[spoon]

gayest stage EVER!

[Kevin]

CAN THIS MAN BEAT ELI MANNING??

LET ME THINK

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2012/02/xlarge_ab09bf40badb12770ef0e4d0e9b139af.jpg


Nope

[Misteriosa]

who brought their grandma?

[Snoogans]

Congrats Snoogs Eli proved me wrong to start this season. He had a great year and I agree he just punched his ticket to the HoF. When Im wrong Im man enough to admit it and I was wrong. He looked great all year and this post season.

thank you. I actually appreciate that, and respect when people can do that.

[spoon]

who brought their grandma?

ha!

[underdog]

CAN THIS MAN BEAT ELI MANNING??

LET ME THINK

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2012/02/xlarge_ab09bf40badb12770ef0e4d0e9b139af.jpg


Nope

He doesn't play defense.

He also doesn't catch the ball. But apparently neither does Welker.

[Kevin]

thank you. I actually appreciate that, and respect when people can do that.

He was wrrr wrr wrrr


wrrr wwwrrr wwrrr.

[spoon]

sooooo

will fat gov get his NJ parade?

:laugh:

[HBox]

OOOOHHHHH! Welker is wide open!!!!!!!!!!

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2012/02/xlarge_e02adc2121cf117aa917bbb0f1a6d4e4.jpg

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!

http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tom-brady-2010.jpg

[Kevin]

He doesn't play defense.

He also doesn't catch the ball. But apparently neither does Welker.

He also made some poor passes there and did shit after that 1st drive in the 2nd half.

[spoon]

Tom Coughlin & Eli Manning love New England

[booster11373]

The fact that they let the owners speaker before the players or the head coach...........

[spoon]

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2012/02/xlarge_e02adc2121cf117aa917bbb0f1a6d4e4.jpg

we can add eli's pic to that header now too

[HBox]

you are one of the few eagles fans i respect. ironically triple skeet is also one cause he embraces everything he is and doesnt hide shit so i respect that too. So unlike what everyone else will do, i wont rip you on it. Esp since you knew it was coming for weeks now

Yes. I knew this was coming and there was nothing I could do to stop it.

[spoon]

building that your brother built!

ha!

[underdog]

OOOOHHHHH! Welker is wide open!!!!!!!!!!

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2012/02/xlarge_e02adc2121cf117aa917bbb0f1a6d4e4.jpg

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!

http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tom-brady-2010.jpg

:lol:

[deliciousV]

gayest stage EVER!

gayer than Madonna's, Which was covered in actual gays?

[spoon]

gayer than Madonna's, Which was covered in actual gays?

on par

[sailor]

gayer than Madonna's, Which was covered in actual gays?

UD thought it was great.

[HBox]

That video of Robert Kraft was the saddest thing ever. It's over, and he's just standing there alone, looking like he could cry.

[Misteriosa]

UD thought it was great.

but it was great :o

[spoon]

That video of Robert Kraft was the saddest thing ever. It's over, and he's just standing there alone, looking like he could cry.

that was sad

[underdog]

UD thought it was great.



I said it was pretty decent. Probably the best since Prince's. It wasn't overtly awful like all the others have been.

Black Eyed Peas, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Aerosmith, these were atrocious. Madonna was just her normal self.

[Kevin]

that was sad

Even me in my douchebag winning mode had to stop and feel sad over that.

[sailor]

I said it was pretty decent. Probably the best since Prince's. It wasn't overtly awful like all the others have been.

Black Eyed Peas, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Aerosmith, these were atrocious. Madonna was just her normal self.

I enjoyed Bruce. Peas was atrocious. Really don't remember the others. Madonna had no energy, too many guest artists and sang that horrid new song.

[HBox]

Even me in my douchebag winning mode had to stop and feel sad over that.

Fuck everyone in that box too! The guy's wife is dead, he's obviously feeling alone and just suffered a professional heartbreaker and the second the game is over everyone goes off to someone else and he just has to stand there in pain.

[Snoogans]

Fuck everyone in that box too! The guy's wife is dead, he's obviously feeling alone and just suffered a professional heartbreaker and the second the game is over everyone goes off to someone else and he just has to stand there in pain.

yea he wanted a hug. it looked like thats all he wanted in teh whole world and everyone ran away like roaches

[Kevin]

Btw

13-7


That Is All!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Congrats to Kevin, Snoogs, and the other Giants fans here. Good game.

[spoon]

ok, that's their record right? not sure why you posted that?


and man did Boley have a very good quiet game...10 tackles and 1 pass defended

[spoon]

man Tiki had Eli pegged huh!

:lol:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Fuck everyone in that box too! The guy's wife is dead, he's obviously feeling alone and just suffered a professional heartbreaker and the second the game is over everyone goes off to someone else and he just has to stand there in pain.

That fuck has gotten ENOUGH hugs this year.

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4e2dec3769bedd725c000002-340-254/jeff-saturday-robert-kraft-nfl-lockout-hug.jpg

[sailor]

ok, that's their record right? not sure why you posted that?


and man did Boley have a very good quiet game...10 tackles and 1 pass defended

I think it was an epo thing.

[Kevin]

ok, that's their record right? not sure why you posted that?


and man did Boley have a very good quiet game...10 tackles and 1 pass defended

It was one last shot at Epo

He used to post pack recs and say that.

[spoon]

That fuck has gotten ENOUGH hugs this year.

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4e2dec3769bedd725c000002-340-254/jeff-saturday-robert-kraft-nfl-lockout-hug.jpg

yah, how dare they like their owner and hug the guy after losing his wife and later dealing with it

i guess they didn't know there was a limit to caring

[Tenbatsuzen]

I said it was pretty decent. Probably the best since Prince's. It wasn't overtly awful like all the others have been.

Black Eyed Peas, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Aerosmith, these were atrocious. Madonna was just her normal self.

Bruce was atrocious? What is wrong with you? It's widely recognized that Bruce's set is probably Top 5 super bowl performances of all time. It's Bruce, U2, Prince, MJ in some order.

Madonna was meh. You could tell the leg was bothering her, but she gutted it out.

[HBox]

man Tiki had Eli pegged huh!

:lol:

Imagining him sulking somewhere just made me feel a little better.

[Kevin]

yah, how dare they like their owner and hug the guy after losing his wife and later dealing with it

i guess they didn't know there was a limit to caring

Bah

GROUND POUND WE WILL WIN THE SB EVERY YEAR IN THE PRE SEASON

Fuck being a human being. They need to sign more scumbags and overreach for more shitty QBS

J E T S JETS JETS JETS

[Tenbatsuzen]

Imagining him sulking somewhere just made me feel a little better.

He is actually getting a paycheck on SNY right now and he basically has to say that Eli just punched his ticket to Canton.

[spoon]

Imagining him sulking somewhere just made me feel a little better.

with what chick now?

and eli didn't thank tebow or his dad, God!

I now like him more

[Tenbatsuzen]

Bah

GROUND POUND WE WILL WIN THE SB EVERY YEAR IN THE PRE SEASON

Fuck being a human being. They need to sign more scumbags and overreach for more shitty QBS

J E T S JETS JETS JETS

Kraft signed off on signing Haynesworth. And a few others of questionable character. It's the PATRIOT way.

[spoon]

Bruce was atrocious? What is wrong with you? It's widely recognized that Bruce's set is probably Top 5 super bowl performances of all time. It's Bruce, U2, Prince, MJ in some order.

Madonna was meh. You could tell the leg was bothering her, but she gutted it out.

What's wrong with you!? it's fucking opinion to start and "she gutted" what out? a few steps right and left and one assisted somersault? shut up

what next, a run down on the outfits?

[spoon]

Kraft signed off on signing Haynesworth. And a few others of questionable character. It's the PATRIOT way.

and they lost too since going that route



and did Young just say Ben is perfect for Pitt?

[spoon]

Pittsburgh, the place for raping qbs!

[spoon]

Miami, the best fit for Manning!

[HBox]

Happy, joking Bill Belichick is gone and old, sour, say nothing Bill Belichick is back. This leaves me vaguely concerned for next year.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In case you didn't know, Madonna had a bad hamstring, that's why she was dancing at half-speed and almost fell.

And saying Bruce was atrocious may be an opinion, but it's an incredibly misinformed opinion and one someone should be called out on.

If you don't like Springsteen, fine, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with his performance.

[Kevin]

I'd take 2 SBS and 2 less rapes please!

[spoon]

Happy, joking Bill Belichick is gone and old, sour, say nothing Bill Belichick is back. This leaves me vaguely concerned for next year.

so the cameras are coming out again?

[HBox]

so the cameras are coming out again?

Yeah, pretty sure something shady is soon to happen.

[Kevin]

In case you didn't know, Madonna had a bad hamstring, that's why she was dancing at half-speed and almost fell.

And saying Bruce was atrocious may be an opinion, but it's an incredibly misinformed opinion and one someone should be called out on.

If you don't like Springsteen, fine, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with his performance.

WHY


WHY


WHY

In the blue hell would you know this?

And why would you even try to?

[Tenbatsuzen]

One thing I did like about Madonna's performance, they didn't have that awful "people hired as extras to look like adoring fans storming the field" that most of these halftimes have. It was, from a technology standpoint, very cool to watch. The projected graphics and morphing stages reminded me of the Winter Olympics in Vancouver.

I don't like Nicki Minaj or MIA or LMFAO or Cee Lo, but it was a servicable half-time show.

Next year, do AC/DC. Please.

[spoon]

In case you didn't know, Madonna had a bad hamstring, that's why she was dancing at half-speed and almost fell.

And saying Bruce was atrocious may be an opinion, but it's an incredibly misinformed opinion and one someone should be called out on.

If you don't like Springsteen, fine, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with his performance.

Yes, anyone not into dick most likely didn't know Madonna had a bad hamstring

and let's not act like Bruce ripped it up like in his old days...it was meh at best and I like him

[spoon]

One thing I did like about Madonna's performance, they didn't have that awful "people hired as extras to look like adoring fans storming the field" that most of these halftimes have. It was, from a technology standpoint, very cool to watch. The projected graphics and morphing stages reminded me of the Winter Olympics in Vancouver.

I don't like Nicki Minaj or MIA or LMFAO or Cee Lo, but it was a servicable half-time show.

Next year, do AC/DC. Please.

There wasn't ROOM for those hired extras. Glad you thought a madonna halftime show was "very cool to watch". Out of curiosity, were you watching the winter olympics in vanc from a turkish bath house?

[Tenbatsuzen]

WHY


WHY


WHY

In the blue hell would you know this?

And why would you even try to?

It was mentioned in a couple of Fox Sports columns leading up to the game. She also mentioned it in her press conference.

[spoon]

WHY


WHY


WHY

In the blue hell would you know this?

And why would you even try to?

It's amazing how the overall feel of this thread IMMEDIATELY changes when tenbats drops in. And it's not like we weren't discussing the halftime show and commercials, I truly can't put it words the douche that Matt brings to everything he partakes in.

[Kevin]

Kind of opposite run this year.

We beat much better teams this year to get here (Atlanta Tampa prob equal)

But The SB opponent was far worse this year.

[HBox]

Kind of opposite run this year.

We beat much better teams this year to get here (Atlanta Tampa prob equal)

But The SB opponent was far worse this year.

Yeah. It was a very tough road to the Super Bowl. Though Green Bay, while a better team, played like complete and utter dogshit.

[spoon]

Yeah. It was a very tough road to the Super Bowl. Though Green Bay, while a better team, played like complete and utter dogshit.

it's not easy to go back to back no doubt, but they really did shit to bed

still a better year than our awful fucking failure teams!

coach swap just for the change!?

PLEASE!?

:innocent:

[HBox]

it's not easy to go back to back no doubt, but they really did shit to bed

still a better year than our awful fucking failure teams!

coach swap just for the change!?

PLEASE!?

:innocent:

Hell no. And you can keep AJ Smith too. At least Reid has one foot out the door. At this point I can't envision Norv Turner without a job.

[Snoogans]

Hell no. And you can keep AJ Smith too. At least Reid has one foot out the door. At this point I can't envision Norv Turner without a job.

Awesome. you know your coach sucks when someone wont give up andy fuckin reid for him

[Kevin]

Ok question...

With this win...

Has Coughlin passed Parcells in the best Giants coach area?



Both 2 SBS

As good as Buff was in 90, I think he had the more impressive SB victory than Parcells..

Give the edge to Coughlin on QB.

But Parcells had No cap and much better D including maybe the best player ever on that side of the field in LT.

[HBox]

Awesome. you know your coach sucks when someone wont give up andy fuckin reid for him

That's right. I'll keep the amateur hurry up offense, awful challenges and offensive defensive coordinators thank you very much.

[HBox]

Ok question...

With this win...

Has Coughlin passed Parcells in the best Giants coach area?



Both 2 SBS

As good as Buff was in 90, I think he had the more impressive SB victory than Parcells..

Give the edge to Coughlin on QB.

But Parcells had No cap and much better D including maybe the best player ever on that side of the field in LT.

Parcells won SBs with Phil Simms and Jeff Hostetler. They make even old Eli look like a HOFer. And however good personnel Parcells had on D he never had the D lines that Coughlin has had. So I still say Parcells.

[Snoogans]

Parcells won SBs with Phil Simms and Jeff Hostetler. They make even old Eli look like a HOFer. And however good personnel Parcells had on D he never had the D lines that Coughlin has had. So I still say Parcells.

but parcells had no cap. and he had the best defensive player maybe ever.

[HBox]

but parcells had no cap. and he had the best defensive player maybe ever.

I mean it's close but still, I think by and large the Giants of the last few years have more talent.

And frankly, you never saw the inconsistency that the Giants have displayed in recent times with Parcells teams. Coughlin Giants teams have been awfully streaky.

[Kevin]

The more important question is..

Did MIA have plantar fasciitis?

[Snoogans]

I mean it's close but still, I think by and large the Giants of the last few years have more talent.

And frankly, you never saw the inconsistency that the Giants have displayed in recent times with Parcells teams. Coughlin Giants teams have been awfully streaky.

true

[HBox]

One thing from the end of the game tonight that could be an issue in the future: The Giants 12 men penalty from the last 15 seconds. I think in late games you could see teams throw in extra guys on D to run the clock down. You get to defend a play with extra men and you are essentially trading anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds for 5 yards.

I don't think the Giants did that purposefully (I certainly hope not) but it did work out in their favor. And I'm sure plenty of coaches were paying attention. I think they need to increase the penalty in certain situations.

[Kevin]

One thing from the end of the game tonight that could be an issue in the future: The Giants 12 men penalty from the last 15 seconds. I think in late games you could see teams throw in extra guys on D to run the clock down. You get to defend a play with extra men and you are essentially trading anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds for 5 yards.

I don't think the Giants did that purposefully (I certainly hope not) but it did work out in their favor. And I'm sure plenty of coaches were paying attention. I think they need to increase the penalty in certain situations.

I agree, thats really unfair.

At least a 10yd.

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's amazing how the overall feel of this thread IMMEDIATELY changes when tenbats drops in. And it's not like we weren't discussing the halftime show and commercials, I truly can't put it words the douche that Matt brings to everything he partakes in.

Jay, settle down a bit, OK?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Always fun to share, always a crowd pleaser.

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[HBox]

I'm beat down enough now to say congrats Giants fans. This year it wasn't an upset, they were unquestionably the superior team and played like it.

[Kevin]

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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY

[deliciousV]

That video of Robert Kraft was the saddest thing ever. It's over, and he's just standing there alone, looking like he could cry.

I guess it's just the asshole in me, I do feel bad that the man's wife died, but that doesn't tug at my heart strings during the Super bo.....oh wait, I'm not authorized, the big game. The man has lived a life of privilage and has had very few bad days, his wife dying obviously hurts, but why do we add that to why he looked so sad, maybe he's a spoiled rich man who's best toy just malfunctioned so he didn't get his way.

He's really really rich and I'll bet ya his Monday is a fuckload better than yours or mine.

[Kevin]

I guess it's just the asshole in me, I do feel bad that the man's wife died, but that doesn't tug at my heart strings during the Super bo.....oh wait, I'm not authorized, the big game. The man has lived a life of privilage and has had very few bad days, his wife dying obviously hurts, but why do we add that to why he looked so sad, maybe he's a spoiled rich man who's best toy just malfunctioned so he didn't get his way.

He's really really rich and I'll bet ya his Monday is a fuckload better than yours or mine.

No way dude.

You could not be more wrong.

Kraft and his wife have been HUGE HUGE Philanthropists ESP his wife.

They are (were) both really class people.

They are rich as fuck but they do the right thing and give back a ton.

You are not a human being if you did not feel sadness for that man.

He just looked so down and like Boxy said, those douches just left him alone.

Pathetic.

[Tenbatsuzen]

No way dude.

You could not be more wrong.

Kraft and his wife have been HUGE HUGE Philanthropists ESP his wife.

They are (were) both really class people.

They are rich as fuck but they do the right thing and give back a ton.

You are not a human being if you did not feel sadness for that man.

He just looked so down and like Boxy said, those douches just left him alone.

Pathetic.

Kraft hung one of the Patriot cheerleaders out to dry and painted her as an anti-semite. This was a girl who did nothing wrong except get drunk at a party, and Kraft let her twist in the wind.

I don't fucking care if you're a philanthropist. If you're rich, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING SUPPOSED TO DO.

Sorry that his wife died. But they are both in their late sixties, early 70s? That's when you recognize death is happening. And it happened, what, six months ago now? It's not like she passed yesterday.

Do you think Billy Cundiff said, "yeah well, I missed that kick, but hey, a billionaire's wife died, so I don't feel that bad, he gets my sympathy..." No. Fuck that.

Let's not forget it was Jonathan Kraft's mother who died and he bailed on his dad. Fuck him too.

[Kevin]

Kraft hung one of the Patriot cheerleaders out to dry and painted her as an anti-semite. This was a girl who did nothing wrong except get drunk at a party, and Kraft let her twist in the wind.

I don't fucking care if you're a philanthropist. If you're rich, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING SUPPOSED TO DO.

Sorry that his wife died. But they are both in their late sixties, early 70s? That's when you recognize death is happening. And it happened, what, six months ago now? It's not like she passed yesterday.

Do you think Billy Cundiff said, "yeah well, I missed that kick, but hey, a billionaire's wife died, so I don't feel that bad, he gets my sympathy..." No. Fuck that.

Let's not forget it was Jonathan Kraft's mother who died and he bailed on his dad. Fuck him too.

You obviously have not suffered really close loss or you are just a fucking ignorant idiot.

I hope for your case its the latter...

DID I GET THAT ONE RIGHT SAILOR?

[Tenbatsuzen]

OK, serious question now:

Where does Eli rank in all-time New York sports legends of the last fifty years?

Obviously Jeter is 1 and Messier is 2. But then it gets hazy. Yogi's in there. Reggie Jackson. Mantle. Eli?

[Tenbatsuzen]

You obviously have not suffered really close loss or you are just a fucking ignorant idiot.

I hope for your case its the latter...

DID I GET THAT ONE RIGHT SAILOR?

I have suffered a close loss. But it's not like she died suddenly. He had time to mentally prepare himself for the end. And again, it was six months ago and his son deserted him tonight.

You wouldn't even fucking REMEMBER that Myra Kraft died if it wasn't for that patch.

[Pitdoc]

Of course, its a moot point now that they won..

The Giants line up for the 2-point conversion .It's 21 to 17.

If the Pats will have 57 seconds left on the clock , but HAVE to score a touchdown to win, 2 points or not...

Why didn't the ball carrier take the ball from Eli and run like a bastard for THE PATRIOTS end zone. I can picture him running serpentine like Adam Arkin in the In-Laws , and burning up another 15-25 seconds on the clock .If they even tackled him & made him fumble, it wouldn't count as its a 2 -point conversion ,and I don't think they'd retain posession . Because , technically, the clock wouldn't stop until the carrier was tackled or had a score . He could have even looped around and ran back for the conversion after burning up time, so the refs wouldn't get hinky on them .

...Or is there something in the rules about this??

It would have fucking hilarious if they did it though

[Tenbatsuzen]

Of course, its a moot point now that they won..

The Giants line up for the 2-point conversion .It's 21 to 17.

If the Pats will have 57 seconds left on the clock , but HAVE to score a touchdown to win, 2 points or not...

Why didn't the ball carrier take the ball from Eli and run like a bastard for THE PATRIOTS end zone. I can picture him running serpentine like Adam Arkin in the In-Laws , and burning up another 15-25 seconds on the clock .If they even tackled him & made him fumble, it wouldn't count as its a 2 -point conversion ,and I don't think they'd retain posession . Because , technically, the clock wouldn't stop until the carrier was tackled or had a score . He could have even looped around and ran back for the conversion after burning up time, so the refs wouldn't get hinky on them .

...Or is there something in the rules about this??

It would have fucking hilarious if they did it though

Time doesn't tick off the clock on PAT/Conversion attempts.

[Pitdoc]

Time doesn't tick off the clock on PAT/Conversion attempts.

Ahhh..Thought it did.Thanks!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

So a couple of things:

The giants Too Many Men penalty - although the 12th man didn't look like he was there intentionally - would have been the smartest play in the world if it was intentional. My father even said, "Shit, put 15 men on the field!"

There's nothing in the rules about putting time back on the clock. And awwwww, Belichick was beaten by strategic chicanery? My heart weeps.

Also:

http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/wilbur/2012/02/not_so_safety_c.html

Tom Brady was 27/41 for 276 and 2 TDs with one INT. God DAMN Boston sportswriters suck.

[TripleSkeet]

Fucking Gostkowski. Its all his fault!

[TripleSkeet]

Im kidding of course. Ive come here to say congrats Giants fans. Especially Snoogans, who really knows his football. You guys deserved it.

But man the last 2 Super Bowls you guys were in I have never seen one team catch so many breaks. Im not saying they were lucky, they definitely couldve won without them and every team has to catch a break or 2 to win a Super Bowl. But watching every fumble bounce right to a Giants player and watching the Pats receivers drop pass after pass when it him them right in their hands was just surreal. Between these last 2 Super Bowl wins and the Buffalo Bills Ray Finkle job Im convinced Wellington Mara used to murder hobos and sell their souls to the devil.

Also, I know it would never happen but that punter shouldve gotten some MVP consideration.

But from here on out, Id really like a few things from the retarded portion of Giants fans. These are things Ive read on FB and Twitter:

1. Please stop acting like the refs were against you in the Super Bowl. You sound ridiculous. Both teams had almost the same amount of penalites and yardage. And the no calls were good no calls. Not because they werent called, because if football is played the way it should be, it shouldnt be called. Seriously I cant take one more person crying about the stupid pass interference call that never shouldve been called anyway.

2. Give Tom Coughlin at least 3 years before calling for his job. And stop telling Eagles fans to be thankfull for Andy Reid who has won NOTHING for us, while you guys have 2 more rings. If anyone should be thankfull for Andy Reid coaching the Eagles, it should be you, not us.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, Tom Brady deserved better than this from his team. The fucking defense sucked a dick as they have all season. Didnt give up a ton of points but basically let the Giants rack up yardage and time of possession for most of the game. His running backs fucking blow and his wideouts let him down. How the fuck is Deion Branch still his #2 receiver in the year 2012??? If I was him Id go to Robert Kraft and demand some fucking help. And after all this hes still better than Peyton.

[Kevin]

Im kidding of course. Ive come here to say congrats Giants fans. Especially Snoogans, who really knows his football. You guys deserved it.

ese are things Ive read on FB and Twitter:

1. Please stop acting like the refs were against you in the Super Bowl. You sound ridiculous. Both teams had almost the same amount of penalites and yardage. And the no calls were good no calls. Not because they werent called, because if football is played the way it should be, it shouldnt be called. Seriously I cant take one more person crying about the stupid pass interference call that never shouldve been called anyway.

2. Give Tom Coughlin at least 3 years before calling for his job. And stop telling Eagles fans to be thankfull for Andy Reid who has won NOTHING for us, while you guys have 2 more rings. If anyone should be thankfull for Andy Reid coaching the Eagles, it should be you, not us.

1: You know you love me.

2: Who in the blue hell thinks you should be thankful for Ried, and are they retarded?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ok question...

With this win...

Has Coughlin passed Parcells in the best Giants coach area?



Both 2 SBS

As good as Buff was in 90, I think he had the more impressive SB victory than Parcells..

Give the edge to Coughlin on QB.

But Parcells had No cap and much better D including maybe the best player ever on that side of the field in LT.

I've been thinking about this.

Coughlin engineered two of the most improbable runs in NFL history. I can't remember a coach who's gone from "He's gonna be fired at the end of the year" in late november to hoisting a Lombardi that same year.

Parcells was more dominant during the regular season and then carried that success into the post season.

I think it breaks down that you can't consider one coach better than the other because the game, the opponents, and a lot of other factors are different, even though "only" 20 years separated the two wins on each side.

The weird thing is this:

2 Super Bowl wins got Eli into the HOF. But it won't get Coughlin in. He'll need three.

A LOT of coaches have multiple Super Bowl wins and are not in the HOF. Yet Marv Levy is.

[Tenbatsuzen]

. Between these last 2 Super Bowl wins and the Buffalo Bills Ray Finkle job

Ok, again: That field goal attempt was 47 yards. It was not a chip shot.

[cougarjake13]

I've been thinking about this.

Coughlin engineered two of the most improbable runs in NFL history. I can't remember a coach who's gone from "He's gonna be fired at the end of the year" in late november to hoisting a Lombardi that same year.

Parcells was more dominant during the regular season and then carried that success into the post season.

I think it breaks down that you can't consider one coach better than the other because the game, the opponents, and a lot of other factors are different, even though "only" 20 years separated the two wins on each side.

The weird thing is this:

2 Super Bowl wins got Eli into the HOF. But it won't get Coughlin in. He'll need three.

A LOT of coaches have multiple Super Bowl wins and are not in the HOF. Yet Marv Levy is.


Not only that coughlin has done it twice

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, and George Seifert not in the Hall of Fame, both have 2 rings each. Same for Tom Flores, but he doesn't have a great record.

[Kevin]

I've been thinking about this.

Coughlin engineered two of the most improbable runs in NFL history. I can't remember a coach who's gone from "He's gonna be fired at the end of the year" in late november to hoisting a Lombardi that same year.

Parcells was more dominant during the regular season and then carried that success into the post season.

I think it breaks down that you can't consider one coach better than the other because the game, the opponents, and a lot of other factors are different, even though "only" 20 years separated the two wins on each side.

The weird thing is this:

2 Super Bowl wins got Eli into the HOF. But it won't get Coughlin in. He'll need three.

A LOT of coaches have multiple Super Bowl wins and are not in the HOF. Yet Marv Levy is.


2SBs plus 2 conf title games with the Jags.

1 broke up a perfect season.

He is def in no question.

[cougarjake13]

Johnson and parcells will most likely get in

[PapaBear]

Coughlin engineered two of the most improbable runs in NFL history

Not only that coughlin has done it twice
Wait... So he did it four times? :huh:

[Kevin]

What hurts Jimmy also is he was pre cap with a STACKED team.

Hell Barry fucking Switzer took his same team and won..

Barry fucking Switzer.

Parcells gets hurt because he retires then comes back, maybe the voters aren't convinced he is fully done yet, which is most likely is.

[TripleSkeet]

Ok, again: That field goal attempt was 47 yards. It was not a chip shot.

21 yards more, but still, he shouldve made it.

[TripleSkeet]

1: You know you love me.

2: Who in the blue hell thinks you should be thankful for Ried, and are they retarded?

For the longest time Ive heard that from Giants fans. I think its because most of his career the Eagles have usually handled the Giants well but man, that shit can get annoying.

[PapaBear]

This might be crazy, but at night, WFAN's signal MIGHT be strong enough to get down to you. On a good night, WFAN's signal can hit North Carolina.
As it turns out, I could pick up the Fan fairly strong in some areas, but it got very staticy sometimes. In the end, I was able to pick up WCBS 880 very clearly with only moments of static. And I made it home to see the last five minutes on TV.

[Tenbatsuzen]

As it turns out, I could pick up the Fan fairly strong in some areas, but it got very staticy sometimes. In the end, I was able to pick up WCBS 880 very clearly with only moments of static. And I made it home to see the last five minutes on TV.

WCBS's signal is almost nearly as powerful as WFANs. You lucked out because there's not a lot of interference around 880 where WFAN probably got some from 610.

Stupid question when I was thinking about this today... why didn't you just listen on SiriusXM?

[cougarjake13]

Wait... So he did it four times? :huh:


No both times he won the super bowl they were calling for his job prior to playoff runs ending on super bowl victories

[PapaBear]

WCBS's signal is almost nearly as powerful as WFANs. You lucked out because there's not a lot of interference around 880 where WFAN probably got some from 610.

Stupid question when I was thinking about this today... why didn't you just listen on SiriusXM?
I gave up on XM about ten months ago. I was only listening to R&F, and I was listening to recorded shows. Not live. It made more sense to go for the Audible deal.

[cougarjake13]

What hurts Jimmy also is he was pre cap with a STACKED team.

Hell Barry fucking Switzer took his same team and won..

Barry fucking Switzer.

Parcells gets hurt because he retires then comes back, maybe the voters aren't convinced he is fully done yet, which is most likely is.


Well also parcells has progressingly got worse

Giants ... Won 2 super bowls
Patriots ... Made but lost super bowl
Jets ... Made but lost afc championship
Cowboys ... Made but lost on divisional playoffs
Dolphins ... Not as coach but made and lost in wild card

[Tenbatsuzen]

I gave up on XM about ten months ago. I was only listening to R&F, and I was listening to recorded shows. Not live. It made more sense to go for the Audible deal.

Thought so. OK, well, you lucked out with the game. so awesome on you. Glad I could be of help.

[PapaBear]

No both times he won the super bowl they were calling for his job prior to playoff runs ending on super bowl victories
That's what I meant when I pointed out Matty's comment about "two most improbable runs". He didn't actually say they were calling for his job both times, but I think he implied that. Therefore, if there were two improbable runs, that were done twice, it means he did it four times. I was being silly.

[cougarjake13]

For the longest time Ive heard that from Giants fans. I think its because most of his career the Eagles have usually handled the Giants well but man, that shit can get annoying.

Well early in 2000s giants won reg season games but eagles were winning playoff games and making NFC championships so til 07 I woulda agreed and said eagle fans sulda been happy with reid

[cougarjake13]

That's what I meant when I pointed out Matty's comment about "two most improbable runs". He didn't actually say they were calling for his job both times, but I think he implied that. Therefore, if there were two improbable runs, that were done twice, it means he did it four times. I was being silly.



Ahhh ok

[PapaBear]

Thought so. OK, well, you lucked out with the game. so awesome on you. Glad I could be of help.
Mucho grassy ass. And I got a kick out of the accents on some of the WFAN commercials.

[PapaBear]

Fucking Gostkowski. Its all his fault!
Thanks for your Pats pick. I managed to tie you for third in the Yahoo Pickem!

[Tenbatsuzen]

What hurts Jimmy also is he was pre cap with a STACKED team.

Hell Barry fucking Switzer took his same team and won..

Barry fucking Switzer.

Parcells gets hurt because he retires then comes back, maybe the voters aren't convinced he is fully done yet, which is most likely is.

Johnson built and developed that Cowboys team. HE STARTED 1-15.

As for Switzer, he did not take the same team and won. 30% of the starting lineup from the 2nd Johnson SB team was not on it.

He basically developed three HOFs in the Triplets. Are you kidding me?

[Tenbatsuzen]

2SBs plus 2 conf title games with the Jags.

1 broke up a perfect season.

He is def in no question.

Just remember something:

Coughlin didn't throw the pass to Tyree.

Coughlin didn't throw the pass to Manningham.

That's why Eli is going in, and that's why Tom needs another Super Bowl win to get in.

I'm not discounting his work with the Jags, but he needs a LITTLE more.

[TripleSkeet]

Johnson built and developed that Cowboys team. HE STARTED 1-15.

As for Switzer, he did not take the same team and won. 30% of the starting lineup from the 2nd Johnson SB team was not on it.

He basically developed three HOFs in the Triplets. Are you kidding me?

Youre really going to give Barry Switzer credit for that Super Bowl??? Really??? He inherited a team with a HOF QB, a HOF #1 WR, arguably the greatest RB of all time, AND brand new aquisition HOFer Deion Sanders. Plus Moose Johnston, Jay Novacek, Darren Woodson, Charles Haley, Leon Lett, Darrin Smith, Russell Maryland, Brock Marion, and the entire offensive line with the exception of the center.

I couldve won the Super Bowl coaching that team.

[TripleSkeet]

Well early in 2000s giants won reg season games but eagles were winning playoff games and making NFC championships so til 07 I woulda agreed and said eagle fans sulda been happy with reid

Yea, til 07 so would I. Unfortunately that was 5 years ago.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Youre really going to give Barry Switzer credit for that Super Bowl??? Really??? He inherited a team with a HOF QB, a HOF #1 WR, arguably the greatest RB of all time, AND brand new aquisition HOFer Deion Sanders. Plus Moose Johnston, Jay Novacek, Darren Woodson, Charles Haley, Leon Lett, Darrin Smith, Russell Maryland, Brock Marion, and the entire offensive line with the exception of the center.

I couldve won the Super Bowl coaching that team.

I was mainly focusing on Kevin's assertation that the Cowboys were "loaded" - the reason why the Cowboys were loaded is because Johnson built and developed that team.

[Kevin]

I was mainly focusing on Kevin's assertation that the Cowboys were "loaded" - the reason why the Cowboys were loaded is because Johnson built and developed that team.

yea and at least half of that team he would not been able to keep together in a cap era.

[TripleSkeet]

I was mainly focusing on Kevin's assertation that the Cowboys were "loaded" - the reason why the Cowboys were loaded is because Johnson built and developed that team.

Oh ok. Yea he definitely did. Jimmy Johnson knew talent. It didnt hurt that he came from Miami and they were loaded with his kind of guys. I remember an interview Aikman did where he said Jimmy Johnson called him up and said "Be worried. Our lives are about to change. The Eagles are going to draft Jerome Brown."

As an Eagles fan it was tough because I LOVED The U and Dallas had so many of them that I couldnt help respect and like them a little back then.

[Tenbatsuzen]

yea and at least half of that team he would not been able to keep together in a cap era.

Unlikely, and here's why:

JJ built that team in five years. FIVE YEARS. He got Aikman as a rookie, Irvin as a second year, and drafted Emmitt. He might have not been able to keep it together after five years, but still would have 2 rings in a very short period of time.

What helped him IMMENSELY was the Walker trade. But he still developed key talent.

[A.J.]

This is actually more gay than I anticipated.

I think I caught AIDS watching that halftime show.

[King Imp]

I don't like Nicki Minaj or MIA or LMFAO or Cee Lo, but it was a servicable half-time show.

I just want to see Nicki Minaj lose her clothes at this point. The chick has tits and ass for miles! :thumbup:

Oh, and I would watch that Smash show if Katherine McPhee still had tits. What the fuck happened to them? She used to be stacked, but now it looks like she's barely sporting a B cup.

Okay, back to the SB talk.

[Jujubees2]

I wonder how a San Diego Chargers fan feels today? Remember Eli should be a Charger but he pulled a JD Drew said he wouldn't play for them.

[HBox]

I wonder how a San Diego Chargers fan feels today? Remember Eli should be a Charger but he pulled a JD Drew said he wouldn't play for them.

It don't make a difference. Eli isn't so much better than Rivers that it makes up for Norv Turner, AJ Smith and the rest of that team. And for most of their careers Rivers was better than Eli.

[Snacks]

It don't make a difference. Eli isn't so much better than Rivers that it makes up for Norv Turner, AJ Smith and the rest of that team. And for most of their careers Rivers was better than Eli.

but stats mean nothing. just because rivers had better stats doesnt mean he is better? maybe eli being there would have gotten them over that hump? from what many say here winning is huge and maybe eli is just a winner and rivers isnt? maybe eli on sd wins 2 super bowls and rivers on nyg they dont win these? that seems to be the belief among some?

[ozzie]

I'm probably going to hell anyway, so screw it...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3523/patriots.jpg

[Snoogans]

I'm probably going to hell anyway, so screw it...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3523/patriots.jpg

goddamn thats funny.

And look at the gut on that kid? What did he find Sally Struthers food stash?

[Kevin]

Although Rivers and Eli aren't far apart I think Eli would have found a way to win some of those games Rivers lost just because he has shown he can.

I know its Coaching but it's not like coughlin and gilbride are great play callers.

[weekapaugjz]

goddamn thats funny.

And look at the gut on that kid? What did he find Sally Struthers food stash?

poor nutrition and starvation lead to a bloated or distended stomach in many children.

[Snoogans]

poor nutrition and starvation lead to a bloated or distended stomach in many children.

thanks for making the joke really depressing!

[HBox]

but stats mean nothing. just because rivers had better stats doesnt mean he is better? maybe eli being there would have gotten them over that hump? from what many say here winning is huge and maybe eli is just a winner and rivers isnt? maybe eli on sd wins 2 super bowls and rivers on nyg they dont win these? that seems to be the belief among some?

Teams win Super Bowls. Teams and coaches. Phillip Rivers has had spotty teams and horrendous coaching. Besides, Eli was average in that first Super Bowl and still won it because of the D. Ben Roethlisberger is a great QB and he was ATROCIOUS in the first Super Bowl he won. There's too many variables going on.

[HBox]

Although Rivers and Eli aren't far apart I think Eli would have found a way to win some of those games Rivers lost just because he has shown he can.

I know its Coaching but it's not like coughlin and gilbride are great play callers.

Let's not act like the Eli of this year was present at any point other than this year. He has been over his career a very streaky QB. This is really the first complete season he has put together. And he rode the D to his first SB. He played well, not crazy, put the team on my back great, but well. It's not like he has a long history of putting the team on his back.

[Snacks]

Teams win Super Bowls. Teams and coaches. Phillip Rivers has had spotty teams and horrendous coaching. Besides, Eli was average in that first Super Bowl and still won it because of the D. Ben Roethlisberger is a great QB and he was ATROCIOUS in the first Super Bowl he won. There's too many variables going on.

I agree 100% TEAMS win SB not 1 player or QB. EXACTLY!

[Furtherman]

Safety dance!

there goes all the "good" scores in the super bowl grids

:furious:

HA (http://deadspin.com/5882493/nbcs-graphics-for-the-giants-offensive-linemen-make-them-look-like-sex-offenders/gallery/2)

Again.

:laugh:


If you don't like Springsteen, fine, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with his performance.


I thought Bruce's set was awesome too. Not to flashy, just great music. Madonna's was so over the top and flashy that at one point I forgot I was watching a football game.

[A.J.]

I thought Bruce's set was awesome too. Not to flashy, just great music. Madonna's was so over the top and flashy that at one point I forgot I was watching a football game.

I thought I was watching a Pride Parade.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So if the Giants are 5-5 at week 10, for the 2012-13 season How many calls for Coughlans firing will there be?