2012 Boston Red Sox Thread (Offseason edition)

[A.J.]

Let's start with a clean slate.

[Kevin]

And boom goes the dynamite...

[Snoogans]

can we lock this one too?

[A.J.]

And Melancon blows another extra inning lead they got back.

MOTHERFUCKER. :wallbash:

[Kevin]

2 ex Yankees blew 2 saves today for you guys.

Awesome.

[underdog]

2 ex Yankees blew 2 saves today for you guys.

Awesome.

That's almost as bad as 3 current Yankees losing 3 games.

[Snoogans]

That's almost as bad as 3 current Yankees losing 3 games.

and the mets are somehow fuckin 3-0

[underdog]

and the mets are somehow fuckin 3-0

And the Orioles.

[disneyspy]

and the tigers!

ooops,sorry

[A.J.]

2 ex Yankees blew 2 saves today for you guys.

Awesome.

2 days in a row...

[cougarjake13]

And the Orioles.

I don't know what's more shocking them or the mets at 3-0

[Kevin]

That's almost as bad as 3 current Yankees losing 3 games.

Not as awesome as the last time the Yankees were 0-3 they won the WS...


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND...

Every Kentucky National Title has been followed by at least 1 Yankee Championship right after...

































We still suck..

[Dan 'Hampton]

This season is going to be epic. In some way.

[A.J.]

Yay.

[A.J.]

And the Bard experiment is the failure I knew it would be.

[spoon]

And your closer situation is sketchy at best with the injury, so why not move him in there and try some kid in the 5 spot?

Pitching duel going on right now for the rights to this series. Romero rebounding nicely thus far and hopefully he gets this win.

[Snoogans]

And your closer situation is sketchy at best with the injury, so why not move him in there and try some kid in the 5 spot?

Pitching duel going on right now for the rights to this series. Romero rebounding nicely thus far and hopefully he gets this win.

we have some kid in the 5 spot. Bard is the 4. Felix Doubrant is the 5. Partly cause the amazing Jonathan Lackey is out for the year. they should start Aceves and let Bard close though, i agree

[A.J.]

And your closer situation is sketchy at best with the injury, so why not move him in there and try some kid in the 5 spot?

Pitching duel going on right now for the rights to this series. Romero rebounding nicely thus far and hopefully he gets this win.

THANK you. Bard was groomed as Pap's heir apparent anyway (remember the talk years ago about making Pap a starter?) and he has two pitches in his arsenal so it's doomed to fail. It's a matter of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". They used Andrew Miller as a starter last year and he was due for a better year. This is also why I miss Wakefield: he was a good insurance policy to have in a situation like this.

Your Jays are looking pretty good spoon.

[A.J.]

we have some kid in the 5 spot. Bard is the 4. Felix Doubrant is the 5. Partly cause the amazing Jonathan Lackey is out for the year. they should start Aceves and let Bard close though, i agree

Doubrount is going to be good.

[Snoogans]

Doubrount is going to be good.

i hope so. he sucks balls in MLB The Show

[spoon]

Doubrount is going to be good.

Yah he did look sharp the other day, but wasn't HE in the 4 spot and Bard last nigh was in the 5th? Did I miss something or are you just giving the true ranks, like how Drabek pitched in the 5 hole but is our actual #4 with Carreno/Laffey in a #5 rotation until McGowan gets back...which seemingly never happens.

[A.J.]

Lester
Beckett
Buchholz
Doubront
Bard

[spoon]

Well I know they say be careful what you wish for, but I'm hoping this inning is it for Lester. He's dealing outside of one inning with a few hiccups. Glad Romero is on a nice count and hopefully will not only get the win, but go the distance.

Too much bullpen use early with the first two going 28 combined and needing the pen a lot of late.

[Snoogans]

Lester
Beckett
Buchholz
Doubront
Bard

all garbage

[A.J.]

Lester's been good but hasn't gotten any run support.

[spoon]

Lester's been good but hasn't gotten any run support.

Romero isn't getting much either, just a well pitched game overall.

Yet I am surprised to see Lester out here in the 8th. He's up to 109 now, but 2 quickly down. 15 in a row may be what V may be thinking. Seems a little long a start for the second start, but the guy is a bull no doubt.

[spoon]

Lester's been good but hasn't gotten any run support.

Bottom line, that's what happens when you're matched up against the other teams ace almost every week until the schedules get a little mixed up later. Both Romero and Lester aren't true bonafide aces just yet, even if they have the stuff and makeup. They just have to assume the role/position a little longer and both are clearly their staff's ace though. I like the way Romero rebounded here, and Lester has back to back impressive starts.

Side not, Davis is fucking fast.

[A.J.]

Romero isn't getting much either, just a well pitched game overall.

Well, Romero got another one.

[Snoogans]

fuckin valentine. its the first week of the season how are you letting guys go almost 120 pitches

[A.J.]

fuckin valentine. its the first week of the season how are you letting guys go almost 120 pitches

If there is a God, Bobby V will be fired during the season or shortly afterward and Jason Varitek will be made the manager.

[A.J.]

And the guy who should have been the Sox manager long ago is currently in the Toronto dugout.

[Snoogans]

this is gonna be a long summer

[spoon]

And the guy who should have been the Sox manager long ago is currently in the Toronto dugout.

http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/4/40/Picture0003.jpg


And Toronto changed a rule JUST to stop Boston from trying to steal him in the offseason. Farrell is staying in Toronto a LONG time!

[spoon]

Santos can dig out a TON with his Toronto future with a clean 2 outs here.

Nervous

[spoon]

His slider and off speed stuff in general is REAL sick. Santos just has to trust his stuff and stop overthrowing his fastballs (2 and 4 seamers). He still is overthrowing them tbh.

Nice job FINALLY by Santos.

[A.J.]

this is gonna be a long summer

At least I have the Nats as my "safety team".

[Snoogans]

At least I have the Nats as my "safety team".

yea, my safety team was always the Braves. Awesome

[A.J.]

And this also shows why they should have traded Youk when he still had some value. Fucking Will Middlebrooks has been tearing it up in Pawtucket.

[Snoogans]

And this also shows why they should have traded Youk when he still had some value. Fucking Will Middlebrooks has been tearing it up in Pawtucket.

they coulda got a good young starter from someone in a playoff chase for youk too. Someone who would be tearing shit up now

[A.J.]

Tito won't be at the Fenway 100th. (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7800391/terry-francona-ex-boston-red-sox-manager-attend-fenway-park-centennial)

Good for him, especially after the smear campaign ownership put him through. Well, all except John Henry who probably busy in Liverpool at the time.

[spoon]

yea, my safety team was always the Braves. Awesome

fuck you both, as I only have the Jays!

no safety team you pricks!

[cougarjake13]

There suld be no such things as a safety team if ur a real fan of a team

[A.J.]

Thanks literal posters!

[cougarjake13]

Thanks literal posters!


How r we to know they're not serious

[spoon]

How r we to know they're not serious

that's his safety post

[Snoogans]

fuck you both, as I only have the Jays!

no safety team you pricks!

mine wasnt so much a safety team. It was realizing that living where i do, being a sox fan, that people would get even MORE pissed if they knew i also rooted for Atlanta. it was partly the mets, but more so, YANKEE fans hated atlanta fans in teh 90s almost as much as Sox fans. So it was natural and easy. Esp cause they were on TBS every day back then.

And no matter how much i love the sox number 1 in my heart, my favorite player ever will always be Ron Gant. And i specifically mean the Atlanta Ron Gant pre breaking his leg fallin off a motor scooter

THE SAME RON GANT THAT WAS PULLED OFF THE BAG BY HRBEK (i think) in the top of the 9th in game 7 against minnie in 91 and was called out anyway cause the ump is a fuckin asshole. They woulda won that game if not for that BS

[A.J.]

THE SAME RON GANT THAT WAS PULLED OFF THE BAG BY HRBEK (i think) in the top of the 9th in game 7 against minnie in 91 and was called out anyway cause the ump is a fuckin asshole. They woulda won that game if not for that BS

That was one of the all-time scumbag moves in baseball. I couldn't believe he got away with that.

[Snoogans]

That was one of the all-time scumbag moves in baseball. I couldn't believe he got away with that.

and the ump was standing like 2 feet away. Staring right at it. i was only like 8 years old and i can still see it in my head

[joeyballsack]

Ellsbury leaves the field holding his arm to his side after going into second hard.

It's going to be a very long season.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thats gotta suck. He missed most of 2010 and was an MVP candidate last year


Beckett had a good outing today

[Snoogans]

I blame Menino

[hanso]

Ray Bradbury Sent To DL..Cody Ross will step up watch n see.

[Kevin]

I blame Menino

I blame Marino.

[hanso]

Ray Bradbury Sent To DL..Cody Ross will step up watch n see.

Naailled it!

[A.J.]

Nice job trading away Kyle Weiland and Jed Lowrie for Mark Melcanon.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like the Valentine/Youklis issue has been squashed

[Snoogans]

Nice job trading away Kyle Weiland and Jed Lowrie for Mark Melcanon.

come on man, Melancon is impressive. Its not easy to have a 49.50 ERA

[A.J.]

come on man, Melancon is impressive. Its not easy to have a 49.50 ERA

Lackey had it last year.

[cougarjake13]

Wow that's right lackeys not even pitching

[A.J.]

Wow that's right lackeys not even pitching

And he's hitting his peak as a Red Sox player.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I love that Francona is coming to Fenway for the 100th anniversary.
Having Bobby V manage will make us all appreciate Tito.

[A.J.]

I love that Francona is coming to Fenway for the 100th anniversary.
Having Bobby V manage will make us all appreciate Tito.

He changed his mind? He said he wasn't going to participate in the ceremony.

[Dan 'Hampton]

ESPN says yes, Globe says probable. This is the best way possible for him to stick it to Management.

[A.J.]

I hope he gets the loudest ovation of all as a big "fuck you" to the owners.....followed closely of course by Johnny Pesky.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They should have made the game more authentic yesterday. Along with throwback uniforms I would have liked to see no helmets and a deadball.

[A.J.]

Buchholz threw at least 4 deadballs.

[A.J.]

And the Red Sox bullpen is about to blow a 9-1 lead.

And they traded away relief pitcher Michael Bowden to the Cubs for Marlon Byrd. (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/18498/source-nothing-finalized-yet-on-byrd-trade)

Yes, this is going to work out well.

[cougarjake13]

Like I said

Sawx are fucked


Spankees too

Rays and jays mofo's

[A.J.]

Jesus Harvey Christ. :furious:

[Snoogans]

i was at work. the guys in the kitchen had the game on and it was 9-0 and they turned it off to watch some Mexican soccer game, I think Toluca. Anyway, I just assumed it was over. I didnt not know until just this minute that the sox blew it

[Dan 'Hampton]

Pinkhats were right, it was all papelbon and titos fault.

[A.J.]

Pinkhats were right, it was all papelbon and titos fault.

Don't forget the fried chicken and beer. Banning that from the clubhouse has really changed things.

[Dan 'Hampton]

This season actually is great tv in an odd way. Odds he makes it to AS game?

[A.J.]

Unfortunately, he'll make it. The last thing Sox ownership will want to admit was their stupidity at hiring him in the first place.

They'll find someone else to blame; probably Theo for leaving V with those players. Or the players themselves.

[razorboy]

Unfortunately, he'll make it. The last thing Sox ownership will want to admit was their stupidity at hiring him in the first place.

They'll find someone else to blame; probably Theo for leaving V with those players. Or the players themselves.

I thought Lucchino was literally the only person in that front office who wanted Valentine, with all other parties thinking it was a terrible idea. It seems like all Lucchino ever does is cause problems.

[Dan 'Hampton]

"Larry Lucchino runs the Red Sox"- John Henry.
Loved the venom on twitter as they played Sweet Caroline after giving up 7 runs, two innings in a row. It sucks, Fenway is a great ballpark but enough of this selling bricks and commemorative bat shit.

[A.J.]

I hate Sweet Caroline, Wally and the fucking pink hats. No real Sox fan would like or support any of that garbage.

[Kevin]

The Sox like the Yankees are now a corporation and not a franchise.

You just have to deal with it that they don't give a fuck about the fans just milking every last dollar.

[Dan 'Hampton]

The problem is the ownership group still lives off the whole evil empire bs. That's over. It died 8 years ago. Instead of running it like a winning franchise it has become a lot more about pumping up the ratings and not totally what's happening on the field. Let the bs sellout streak obviously end, the ratings have to be tanking again. Establish a legit baseball opps. Not a team president who spends half his weekends going to FA cup games or auto races in some hayseed town.

[underdog]

The problem is the ownership group still lives off the whole evil empire bs. That's over. It died 8 years ago. Instead of running it like a winning franchise it has become a lot more about pumping up the ratings and not totally what's happening on the field. Let the bs sellout streak obviously end, the ratings have to be tanking again. Establish a legit baseball opps. Not a team president who spends half his weekends going to FA cup games or auto races in some hayseed town.

Agreed.

[OGC]

Well at least the Red Sox won't lose to the Yankees tonight.

Rained out .

[MIKEYDAKEN]

This sucks I made plans months ago for this game and now I'm in a hotel room watching the dark knight.

[underdog]

This sucks I made plans months ago for this game and now I'm in a hotel room watching the dark knight.

Staying anywhere good?

[spoon]

that place in big

[underdog]

that place in big

Wasn't that in NYC?

[spoon]

Wasn't that in NYC?

oh, they up in Boston? I had no clue...so yah, nyc.

:laugh:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Latest on Crawford. It doesnt look good.


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7853945/carl-crawford-boston-red-sox-see-dr-james-andrews-sore-elbow

[A.J.]

Thanks Theo!

[TjM]

Thanks Henry!

FTFY

Signing was the complete oppisite of everything Theo ever coveted (Same w/ Lackey) I think that was directly from Henry and Satan..I mean Larry

[TjM]

His OPB (One of Theos biggest things (IE JD Drew) was always terrible)

[Dan 'Hampton]

On Crawford- not like we traded away best prospect to get him. It sucks.
.500 bitches.

[A.J.]

.500 bitches.

Just like last year: a very shitty start and then a nice little hot streak to balance things out.

More importantly, the bullpen has been looking much better as of late.

[Snoogans]

On Crawford- not like we traded away best prospect to get him. It sucks.
.500 bitches.
we might not have traded anyone for crawford. But we did tie up 20 or so of the 160 mill we appear to be limiting our payroll to. and we have to give up some draft picks too

Just like last year: a very shitty start and then a nice little hot streak to balance things out.

More importantly, the bullpen has been looking much better as of late.
couldnt have looked much worse, so

[Dan 'Hampton]

Actually 2 weeks faster than last year. I have no aspirations for this te this year. But I'm pretty sure it'll be an interesting year.

[underdog]

Actually 2 weeks faster than last year. I have no aspirations for this te this year. But I'm pretty sure it'll be an interesting year.

yeah, I'm with you. I went into this year with no expectations. Having Bobby V as your coach can do that.

[A.J.]

yeah, I'm with you. I went into this year with no expectations. Having Bobby V as your coach can do that.

Ditto (regardless of Bobby V). After last year when everyone was saying this team was a lock for the World Series, it's nice not to have the same kind of pressure this year.

Well, aside from the Boston idiots who have now become the Yankee fans they so despised.

[OGC]

looks like another of those nights for the Red Sox. They HAD an 11 - 1 lead, it is now 11-6 with the bases loaded and no outs in the 8th.

Can they hold on ?

[A.J.]

Thank God for Atchison.

To be fair, Buchholz should have gotten that 3rd out but it was a case of a very liberal strike zone.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ortiz is batting over .400

[Dan 'Hampton]

Sox '36 throwbacks with striped socks kick serious ass.

[OGC]

Sox '36 throwbacks with striped socks kick serious ass.

Too bad the team ain't kickin nothing tonight.

[Dan 'Hampton]

When they wear the 2004 retros it'll turn things around.

[cougarjake13]

Too bad the team ain't kickin nothing tonight.



Got pix?

[A.J.]

I hope this finally proves that Bard is not a starter.

[A.J.]

I couldn't agree more.

Why Youkilis has to go (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7907550/why-boston-red-sox-trade-kevin-youkilis)

I love Youk and appreciate all he's done for the team, but Theo should have made this move last year. Middlebrooks is more than ready and Youk is breaking down so it's time to get something for him while he still has value.

[Jujubees2]

The only problem is there's not much of a market for an often-injured player hitting .219. But I agree that if he is traded let's not turn it into a soap opera. He was a big part of the team since 2006.

[OGC]

I couldn't agree more.

Why Youkilis has to go (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7907550/why-boston-red-sox-trade-kevin-youkilis)

I love Youk and appreciate all he's done for the team, but Theo should have made this move last year. Middlebrooks is more than ready and Youk is breaking down so it's time to get something for him while he still has value.


I love Youkilis too, but I have to agree that the Sox should make this move. Youk will have to play when he gets of the DL to prove that he is healthy but they should trade him while he still has some value.

[Fallon]

Fenway Park public address announcer Carl Beane was killed in a single-car crash Wednesday in Sturbridge, Mass., Worcester District Attorney Joseph D. Early Jr. confirmed.
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7911652/carl-beane-fenway-park-pa-announcer-dies-car-crash

[cougarjake13]

So bobby v was right

[A.J.]

Fenway Park public address announcer Carl Beane was killed in a single-car crash Wednesday in Sturbridge, Mass., Worcester District Attorney Joseph D. Early Jr. confirmed.
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7911652/carl-beane-fenway-park-pa-announcer-dies-car-crash

Sad news. He went way too soon.

[Jujubees2]

Sad news. He went way too soon.

True. As a kid I used to go to the park and listen to Sherm Feller (and John Kiley on the organ - none of this Sweet Caroline crap). He was the best. This guy had a lot of Sherm in him.

[A.J.]

True. As a kid I used to go to the park and listen to Sherm Feller (and John Kiley on the organ - none of this Sweet Caroline crap). He was the best. This guy had a lot of Sherm in him.

THIS.

John Kiley: the only man to play for the Sox, Celts and Bruins.

[A.J.]

Report: Beckett golfed before missing start (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7911759/report-josh-beckett-boston-red-sox-played-golf-2-days-missed-start)

It's fried chicken and beer all over again!

[Jujubees2]

THIS.

John Kiley: the only man to play for the Sox, Celts and Bruins.

Nothing like John Kiley striking up the "Hallelujah Chorus"!

[OGC]

Report: Beckett golfed before missing start (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7911759/report-josh-beckett-boston-red-sox-played-golf-2-days-missed-start)

It's fried chicken and beer all over again!

What's the big deal about this ? It was obvious to me that Beckett "missed" that start because the Sox had to get Aaron Cook up on the major league team or they would lose him. It happens all the time that teams put players on the DL (or skip starts) with phantom injuries.

Even if he really did have a shoulder problem, I don't think he would have golfed if it was too bad.

[OGC]

I just checked out the article.

It is even sillier to complain that he played golf BEFORE he missed the start. Is the press trying to say players shouldn't golf during the season ?

The fucking media in Boston is just trying to create a story to fill all of the time on their broadcasts.

[Dan 'Hampton]

He declared early in week hed been playing "hurt". If they wanted cook up they should have gone six man for a week, or sat buchholz or bard. Not their best pitcher this year.

[Dan 'Hampton]

#freebagman

[spoon]

I just checked out the article.

It is even sillier to complain that he played golf BEFORE he missed the start. Is the press trying to say players shouldn't golf during the season ?

The fucking media in Boston is just trying to create a story to fill all of the time on their broadcasts.

If I had a pitcher making millions, not to mention simply he's on a pro contract, YES, you shouldn't golf during the regular season

ESPECIALLY a pitcher

[OGC]

If I had a pitcher making millions, not to mention simply he's on a pro contract, YES, you shouldn't golf during the regular season

ESPECIALLY a pitcher


what about crossing the street ? driving a car ? riding a bicycle ?

[Kevin]

I just checked out the article.

It is even sillier to complain that he played golf BEFORE he missed the start. Is the press trying to say players shouldn't golf during the season ?

The fucking media in Boston is just trying to create a story to fill all of the time on their broadcasts.

what about crossing the street ? driving a car ? riding a bicycle ?

Are you serious?

The amount of torque a golf swing puts on your back, knee and shoulder is huge.

It can hurt a healthy guy let alone one with back and knee problems.

[epo]

Are you serious?

The amount of torque a golf swing puts on your back, knee and shoulder is huge.

It can hurt a healthy guy let alone one with back and knee problems.

Learn to swing properly.

[Snoogans]

i dont see the big deal. you pitch every 5 days. if you wanna play golf that 3rd day i dont give a fuck

[hanso]

Josh the blister, wonder what could cause that.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Don't cry how you're injured and will miss next start, then get caught on golf course two days before said start.

[OGC]

Don't cry how you're injured and will miss next start, then get caught on golf course two days before said start.

I'll admit that I didn't follow the story that closely. Did Beckett initiate the injury talk that lead to him missing the start ?

[A.J.]

Thanks again Theo!

[Jujubees2]

Thanks again Theo!

How soon you forget about 2004 and 2007!

[A.J.]

Yeah, but who knew that it turns out that we ended up selling our soul to the devil to get those.

[Kevin]

Yeah, but who knew that it turns out that we ended up selling our soul to the devil to get those.

Please stop being a Yankee fan. He was huge for you in 07 and the main guy you gave up for him may be a bigger douche nozzle.

You take the good with the bad.

[A.J.]

You take the good with the bad.

You take them both and then you have the facts of life.

[A.J.]

.500! Tied with the Yanks for last place! :clap:

[Fallon]

Awwwww yeah!

[Kevin]

Woooooooooo

Go crazy folks go crazy

[cougarjake13]

What is this ? Earth 2?

[A.J.]

FINALLY....over .500! :clap:

[underdog]

FINALLY....over .500! :clap:

:drunk:

[A.J.]

Out of last place! :clap:

[OGC]

Bard will be back in bullpen when he returns (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2012/06/23/daniel_bard_of_red_sox_headed_back_to_the_bullpen/)

[A.J.]

Bard will be back in bullpen when he returns (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2012/06/23/daniel_bard_of_red_sox_headed_back_to_the_bullpen/)

As he should have been all along.

[OGC]

Bard will be back in bullpen when he returns (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2012/06/23/daniel_bard_of_red_sox_headed_back_to_the_bullpen/)

As he should have been all along.

yup

[Dan 'Hampton]

This is the most interesting sox season since '04. Easily.

[A.J.]

Let's hope it ends the same way.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Where will Youklis end up? Trade talks starting to come up especially in last few days

[joeyballsack]

yup

Too bad he stinks either way lately.

Where does Youk end up ? My guess is with the Dodgers.

[cougarjake13]

Rumor has it that it's the white sox

[joeyballsack]

If he is gone after this game, what a great way to go out.

I would like to see them keep him as a utility guy, but I guess he probably wouldn't go for that.

[cougarjake13]

Espn reporting youk traded to white sox

[OGC]

Espn reporting youk traded to white sox

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1061141122&srvc=rss

[Kevin]

You guys got less than a bag of balls for him.

A 28 year old batting 175 and a pitcher with a 6 ERA.

Talk about waiting to long to trade a guy...

Now he can act like a 5yr old not getting his ice cream everytime he Ks in Chicago.

[A.J.]

I loved the way Youk played the game and I'm grateful for all that he accomplished in Boston. But Theo should have made this trade last year when Youk still had some marketability.

[A.J.]

Spoon's Jays take the first in the battle for the AL East cellar.

This team cannot win at home.

[OGC]

Darnell McDonald designated for assignment (http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/red_sox/index.php/2012/06/30/red-sox-designate-darnell-mcdonald-for-assignment/)

[Fallon]

Gotta make room for Crawford and Ellsbury. I liked Darnell though, just no room.

[Snoogans]

Gotta make room for Crawford and Ellsbury. I liked Darnell though, just no room.

Darnell would be awesome if they only allowed lefties to pitch. But as it stands, he is like 31 and has no arm and isnt really a great hitter. In fact, he is a terrible hitter. Good riddance

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Crawford to need Tommy John Surgery

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1061144309&srvc=rss

[A.J.]

Another great job by the Red Sox medical staff! :clap:

Let's watch Pedroia's career be ruined with this thumb injury.

[brettmojo]

Crawford to need Tommy John Surgery

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1061144309&srvc=rss

Another great job by the Red Sox medical staff! :clap:

Let's watch Pedroia's career be ruined with this thumb injury.
The lesson here... Beware of Carls...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/04/03/2003650002.jpg

[Dan 'Hampton]

Another great job by the Red Sox medical staff! :clap:

Let's watch Pedroia's career be ruined with this thumb injury.

Amazingly it has been appreciably worse than the staff that they replaced last year. In a city with arguably the best doctors in the country in a state with the best rated healthcare in the country.

[A.J.]

Amazingly it has been appreciably worse than the staff that they replaced last year. In a city with arguably the best doctors in the country in a state with the best rated healthcare in the country.
Exactly. This is pathetic.

[cougarjake13]

Crawford to need Tommy John Surgery

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1061144309&srvc=rss



haha


I don't recall the last position player to get tommy John


and under the rays current regime I can't name a player they let go because of contract that's gone on to continue their success

[cougarjake13]

Exactly. This is pathetic.



it's romneys fault

[A.J.]

it's romneys fault

And Ted Kennedy's.

[A.J.]

Shocker: Valentine failing. (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8162350/boston-red-sox-manager-bobby-valentine-seems-encountering-problems-all-directions)

[cougarjake13]

Shocker: Valentine failing. (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8162350/boston-red-sox-manager-bobby-valentine-seems-encountering-problems-all-directions)


I'll get to witness it first hand this weekend

[WRESTLINGFAN]

MLB Network reports Crawford to join the Sox this week

[A.J.]

I thought he was having the Tommy John surgery. Which, by the way, I NEVER heard of any one other than a pitcher ever having had.

[cougarjake13]

I thought he was having the Tommy John surgery. Which, by the way, I NEVER heard of any one other than a pitcher ever having had.


must have opted not to do it

and I agree I don't remember ever hearing a non pitcher getting tommy john

[Fallon]

must have opted not to do it

and I agree I don't remember ever hearing a non pitcher getting tommy john

Carl said he needs tommy john it but it won't affect his play. His reasoning is if he gets the surgery he's out till next year. So he's gonna give it a go and if he blows his arm out he'll get it then. Rehab is a lot shorter for a position player.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Latest on Ortiz injury


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8173937/david-ortiz-boston-red-sox-lot-pain-says-heel-swollen

[A.J.]

It looked like he rolled it or tweaked it a bit when he rounded second. I'm hoping that's all it is.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Looked like cramps.
Couple days. Not so bad.

[joeyballsack]

John Lester has become a #3 starter at best this season.

[A.J.]

That's being generous.

I really think Tek being gone is having a negative effect on Beckett and Lester. That or they're sneaking beer and fried chicken back into the clubhouse.

[A.J.]

Cody Fucking Ross!

That was a classic pitcher's duel to the very end. Fantastic game.

[Fallon]

Cody Fucking Ross!

That was a classic pitcher's duel to the very end. Fantastic game.

3 three run homers in two games for Cody, that's sick!

[A.J.]

AND he just missed a 2 run homer in addition to the two 3 run homers he hit the night before.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cop axed for calling Crawford a Monday


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8202374/cop-fired-slurring-carl-crawford-boston-red-sox

[cougarjake13]

Cop axed for calling Crawford a Monday


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8202374/cop-fired-slurring-carl-crawford-boston-red-sox




never heard that used before

[A.J.]

Ciriaco!

Back to .500! Yay mediocrity!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sox looking to trade Beckett. Hes a 10/5 player so he can veto any trade


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8213156/source-says-boston-red-sox-trying-dump-josh-beckett

[Jujubees2]

Not only did the Sox pick up Breslow they also got him today...

http://images.zap2it.com/images/celeb-1960/steven-wright.jpg

Red Sox trade Lars Anderson for RHP Steven Wright (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/07/red_sox_trade_l_1.html)

Should be a lot more fun in the clubhouse now

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Beckett leaves game early due to back spasms

[A.J.]

Not only did the Sox pick up Breslow they also got him today...

http://images.zap2it.com/images/celeb-1960/steven-wright.jpg

Red Sox trade Lars Anderson for RHP Steven Wright (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/07/red_sox_trade_l_1.html)

Should be a lot more fun in the clubhouse now

Oh good -- he's a knuckleballer. Good luck Salty.

[A.J.]

That may have been the most embarrassing loss of the season. To manage only 2 hits against a rookie on one of the worst teams in baseball? And the worst part is that Lester actually pitched well.

I don't want to hear about injuries either. The Yankees still find a way to win.

Fuck this team.

[OGC]

That may have been the most embarrassing loss of the season. To manage only 2 hits against a rookie on one of the worst teams in baseball? And the worst part is that Lester actually pitched well.

I don't want to hear about injuries either. The Yankees still find a way to win.

Fuck this team.



agreed .

[Snoogans]

That may have been the most embarrassing loss of the season. To manage only 2 hits against a rookie on one of the worst teams in baseball? And the worst part is that Lester actually pitched well.

I don't want to hear about injuries either. The Yankees still find a way to win.

Fuck this team.

i said that day 1. partly cause bobby v, and partly cause baseball really sucks now. still follow whats goin on, but i cant watch that shit. its too boring. It just doesnt do it anymore

[A.J.]

That's OK Snoogans, you can join Liverpool Nation. That seems to be more important anyway.

[Snoogans]

That's OK Snoogans, you can join Liverpool Nation. That seems to be more important anyway.

its fuckin funny that i despise liverpool. Partly I do blame them for the downfall.

And its not really by choice. I wanna like baseball but when i watch it now i just dont get excited.

[A.J.]

That may have been the most embarrassing loss of the season. To manage only 2 hits against a rookie on one of the worst teams in baseball? And the worst part is that Lester actually pitched well.

I don't want to hear about injuries either. The Yankees still find a way to win.

Fuck this team.

I stand corrected -- last night's game topped it. To be fair, Doubrount was getting some shit calls in the strike zone. Does Bobby V argue this shit and get tossed in order to support his pitcher like Francona would have done? Of course not.

I can't wait to hear how Lucchino is going to spin this shitty season. I imagine he'll blame it on injuries and bad deals Theo made.

[cougarjake13]

I stand corrected -- last night's game topped it. To be fair, Doubrount was getting some shit calls in the strike zone. Does Bobby V argue this shit and get tossed in order to support his pitcher like Francona would have done? Of course not.

I can't wait to hear how Lucchino is going to spin this shitty season. I imagine he'll blame it on injuries and bad deals Theo made.


sounds about right

[A.J.]

You really can't make this shit up. :wallbash:

[Snoogans]

dont worry AJ, 1 month til football

[Kevin]

dont worry AJ, 1 month til football

Great he has another Loss to the Giants in the SB to look forward to.

[A.J.]

dont worry AJ, 1 month til football

Fuck football.

[Snoogans]

Fuck football.

umm


dont worry AJ, just 2 weeks til futbol

[cougarjake13]

or AJ can just focus all his rooting efforts into his adopted NL team the nationals

[A.J.]

or AJ can just focus all his rooting efforts into his adopted NL team the nationals

I was at the game last night. Fantastic comeback in the 8th and Harper hit one of the biggest bombs I've ever seen.

The fan base here is still a bit weak but getting better.

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[cougarjake13]

ride the wave

[Kevin]

I was at the game last night. Fantastic comeback in the 8th and Harper hit one of the biggest bombs I've ever seen.

The fan base here is still a bit weak but getting better.

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Well I know you guys are the poor low spending small market gutty gritty Redsox so you have no hope.

But my big bad Yankees will buy every player on that Nats team in 6 years.

So there is that to look for.

[A.J.]

Well I know you guys are the poor low spending small market gutty gritty Redsox so you have no hope.

But my big bad Yankees will buy every player on that Nats team in 6 years.

So there is that to look for.

This isn't the 1920 Red Sox or the 1974 A's: we take care of our own!

But you can have Wang back if you want.

[A.J.]

And Padilla almost gives away yet another game in the 9th.

Yay: 1 in a row.

[OGC]

And Padilla almost gives away yet another game in the 9th.

Yay: 1 in a row.

1 of 4 from Minnesota. What more can you want ?

[A.J.]

I know. I'm so greedy.

[Jujubees2]

The hits keep coming

Source: Middlebrooks has a broken wrist (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/08/source_middlebr.html)

[cougarjake13]

The hits keep coming

Source: Middlebrooks has a broken wrist (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/08/source_middlebr.html)


will u can just put youk back at thir..... o wait

[Jujubees2]

will u can just put youk back at thir..... o wait

No way. They've got Danny Valencia!

[A.J.]

No way. They've got Danny Valencia!

And Nick Punto!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

R.I.P. Johnny Pesky


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061152910&srvc=rss

[Snoogans]

look, we kept this shit open all year. Now fuckin legends are dying. And he didnt have cancer so we cant even ride the wave to the WS like the yankees always did.

Can we just lock this fuckin thread?

[A.J.]

R.I.P. Johnny Pesky


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061152910&srvc=rss

92 was a good run. It was always cool seeing him at spring training, like Yogi Berra for the Yankees. Everyone loved him.

I'm just glad he was able to make it to the Fenway 100th ceremony earlier this year. One of the best moments at the 2004 World Series was when he got to hold the trophy first.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0813/bos_g_pesky66_cr_600.jpg

[Jujubees2]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/john_donovan/10/28/sox.win/p1_1027_pesky_getty.jpg

The Boys of Summer

[Jujubees2]

One of my favorite photos of the 2004 World Series

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/10/27/sports/series.slide.12.jpg

[A.J.]

Interesting fact: Pesky was born Sept. 27, 1919 -- on the day Babe Ruth played his last game in a Boston Red Sox uniform.

[cougarjake13]

Interesting fact: Pesky was born Sept. 27, 1919 -- on the day Babe Ruth played his last game in a Boston Red Sox uniform.



so it was a pesky curse

[A.J.]

so it was a pesky curse

Literally.

[spoon]

Literally.

nice

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Crawfords season looks like its over


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/red-sox-decide-monday-surgery-000348954--mlb.html

[A.J.]

I wish Pedroia would have surgery too. Let's just call it a season and heal all the wounded.

[Snoogans]

I wish Pedroia would take steroids too. Let's just call it a season and heal all the wounded.

amen

[OGC]

Holy Fuck the Red Sox pitching sucks balls.

The offense spotted them a 6 - 0 lead and the next inning they give up 8 runs, including 2 that scored on walks.

[OGC]

and now they've given up an 11 - 9 lead in the 9th inning and are trailing 12 - 11

[cougarjake13]

holy god

[OGC]

and after scoring a run in the bottom of the 9th to tie it at 12, the pitching takes exactly 2 pitches to surrender another run. (and then another to make it 14 - 12)

[A.J.]

Hey Cody Ross, when you're playing right field, and you wave Pedroia off on fly balls, FUCKING DIVE AFTER THEM.

And one of the many things I hate about Bobby Valentine is that he NEVER gets in the face of an ump. Aviles (I think) beat a throw to first and was safe. Does he go out there and stick up for his player? Of course not.

And firing pitching coach Bob McClure made a world of difference didn't it?

Every day when I think they hit rock bottom, they find new ways to reach new lows. Like I said before, Pedroia is the only one trying and I wish he'd call it a season before he does any more damage to his hand.

[OGC]

Is A-Gone gone-gone ? (http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-claim-on-adrian-20120824,0,435818.story)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is A-Gone gone-gone ? (http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-claim-on-adrian-20120824,0,435818.story)

Not just A gone


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8300112/adrian-gonzalez-carl-crawford-josh-beckett-nearing-boston-red-sox-exit-sources-say

Beckett can decline. Hes a 10/5 player

[Dan 'Hampton]

Looks like its happening also including Crawford and punto with gonzo and Beckett. For minor leaguers and James loney. I like.

[razorboy]

The Red Sox would get rid of Beckett and Crawford any way they can. They'd be thrilled just to not have to pick up a third or more of Crawford's remaining salary. Gonzalez I think they're less enthusiastic to part with, but as incentive for Boston to move him I think the Dodgers are agreeing to take on Crawford and Beckett with Boston probably picking up at least some of the salary.

[underdog]

Is A-Gone gone-gone ? (http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-claim-on-adrian-20120824,0,435818.story)

Fuck this team. If they trade Gonzalez, I'm done.

Run two people out of town, hire a clown manager, leak "stories" about the locker room and make the fans turn on the players, then dump all the salaries. The ownership for this team is a bunch of fucking scumbags.

Fuck this team. I'm going to start rooting for the Nationals.

[brettmojo]

Not just A gone


http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8300112/adrian-gonzalez-carl-crawford-josh-beckett-nearing-boston-red-sox-exit-sources-say

Beckett can decline. Hes a 10/5 player
I doubt he would. A chance to go back to the NL and get to the playoffs? Also to get out of Boston right now would be like getting on one of those first lifeboats off the Titanic.

[Snoogans]

Fuck this team. If they trade Gonzalez, I'm done.

Run two people out of town, hire a clown manager, leak "stories" about the locker room and make the fans turn on the players, then dump all the salaries. The ownership for this team is a bunch of fucking scumbags.

Fuck this team. I'm going to start rooting for the Nationals.

though i agree with your sentiment, im fuckin sick of AGones bullshit too. Complaining last year they play too many night games, too many games in general. Then not hitting and then letting that text go and then acting like he didnt know. He has been a faggot behind the scenes ever since he got here.

But otherwise, i completely agree. Good thing ive been done with baseball as a whole and dont really care anymore. Even if they were good i wouldnt care, but this shit just makes it even easier

[joeyballsack]

Can they throw the managers into the trade ?

[underdog]

I doubt he would. A chance to go back to the NL and get to the playoffs? Also to get out of Boston right now would be like getting on one of those first lifeboats off the Titanic.

Seriously. These players probably want the fuck OUT of Boston. Youk was so happy to bounce.

[OGC]

Looks like its happening also including Crawford and punto with gonzo and Beckett. For minor leaguers and James loney. I like.


Plus if they are able to drop a bunch of salary, they will be more likely to be able to afford re-signing Ellsbury after next year (if they don't do it quicker)

[Dan 'Hampton]

Gonzales hasn't been a problem for the team easily their best player, but to get rid of Beckett and erase the Crawford mistake this is a given.

[OGC]

Gonzales hasn't been a problem for the team easily their best player, but to get rid of Beckett and erase the Crawford mistake this is a given.

Agreed, it is the price the Sox have to pay. And apparently this Pitcher Rubby De La Rosa they will get in return is a true top of the rotation pitcher.

[Dan 'Hampton]

It weeds out the pink-hats too. Now rid us of valentine and Luchinno too.

[Snoogans]

Plus if they are able to drop a bunch of salary, they will be more likely to be able to buy more underperforming players for Liverpool

fixed that for you

[Snoogans]

you know what, this aint a bad deal at all

Dodgers have agreed to send the Red Sox James Loney, Allen Webster, Jerry Sands (.303/.380/.533 in AAA Albuquerque), Ivan De Jesus (.282/.277/.559 in two years with the Dodgers), and Rubby De La Rosa ( 3.71 ERA in 13 games in 2011 with 8.9 SO/9; he is fresh off Tommy John surgery) in return for the big three and Nick Punto


Sands is a pretty decent prospect, he can hit the ball pretty well and play some 1b along with OF. And De La Rosa has a chance to be a really solid pitcher. De Jesus is ok i guess but im pretty sure he is the oldest of the prospects

[underdog]

Plus if they are able to drop a bunch of salary, they will be more likely to be able to afford re-signing Ellsbury after next year (if they don't do it quicker)

I hate the whole salary angle. It's not like they're losing fucking money. They're just being dumb, greedy owners.

[underdog]

It weeds out the pink-hats too. Now rid us of valentine and Luchinno too.

You're crazy. Those dumb twats will be the ones sticking around while a fucking AAA team is on the field for 3 years.

[underdog]

you know what, this aint a bad deal at all

Dodgers have agreed to send the Red Sox James Loney, Allen Webster, Jerry Sands (.303/.380/.533 in AAA Albuquerque), Ivan De Jesus (.282/.277/.559 in two years with the Dodgers), and Rubby De La Rosa ( 3.71 ERA in 13 games in 2011 with 8.9 SO/9; he is fresh off Tommy John surgery) in return for the big three and Nick Punto


Sands is a pretty decent prospect, he can hit the ball pretty well and play some 1b along with OF. And De La Rosa has a chance to be a really solid pitcher. De Jesus is ok i guess but im pretty sure he is the oldest of the prospects

None of those players compare to Adrian Gonzalez.

[underdog]

I hate going out this way. Fuck this ownership.

[OGC]

None of those players compare to Adrian Gonzalez.

and none of their salaries come close to the $250 million over the next 5 or 6 years due to Crawford, Beckett, and Gonzalez

[underdog]

and none of their salaries come close to the $250 million over the next 5 or 6 years due to Crawford, Beckett, and Gonzalez

Who cares?! That money is a drop in the bucket to what the Red Sox bring in worldwide.

I want an owner that treats the team like a toy, not like a fucking investment.

They're going to blow up this team and fill it with AAA talent. But at least they won't be spending money! And then they'll raise ticket prices again so they can "pursue" talent.

[joeyballsack]

Beckett will do well in the NL West and lead the Dodgers to the World Series.

The Sox get two really good pitching prospects, still keep Lester, Bucholtz, Pedroia and Ellsbury with a good chance to resign Ortiz so I like the deal.

[TjM]

I hate going out this way. Fuck this ownership.

Had to be done. The team needed an enema

[TjM]

Who cares?! That money is a drop in the bucket to what the Red Sox bring in worldwide.

I want an owner that treats the team like a toy, not like a fucking investment.

They're going to blow up this team and fill it with AAA talent. But at least they won't be spending money! And then they'll raise ticket prices again so they can "pursue" talent.

No they won't Udog. They'll use the money to lock up Jacoby and sign free agents

[TjM]

When they were winning the current ownership never gave out more than a 4 - 5 year deal. They got away from their philosophy