2012 POTUS and Congress General election off-season thread

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm not against SSM, I just see how everyone falls in line because Saint Hillary gave her approval.


A couple of weeks after she gives the nod now most of the Dems are on board

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Look at the case with Portman who is a republican


His son comes out and he's for gay marriage . If his son was straight he wouldn't change his mind

[spoon]

Look at the case with Portman who is a republican


His son comes out and he's for gay marriage . If his son was straight he wouldn't change his mind

thanks for repeating everything

i just gave that GOP example

and even IF your reason for SSM support was right, all you would be doing is showing Hilary as having a great impact for something good and shouldn't even be an issue, much less a need to be a focus

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I just find the whole timing odd. Blue dogs like Heidi Heidkamp and Bill Nelson switching over so quickly

Look at someone who's not in politics like Jay Z. After Obama voiced his support for it last year , he came out to endorse it. He didn't all of a sudden evolve. He saw Obama support it and it was the trendy thing to do

Dick Trumka supporting SSM? Come on

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jay Z and the misses took heat from 2 Florida house members because they went to Cuba for vacation

Not a big deal. There's more important shit to worry about.

I will say when they both get sick they should get treated by that high quality Single payer system

[spoon]

Jay Z and the misses took heat from 2 Florida house members because they went to Cuba for vacationok

Not a big deal. There's more important shit to worry about.Holy shit, normal reaction...

I will say when they both get sick they should get treated by that high quality Single payer systemTHERE HE IS!!! :bye:

.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Rich Progressives always talk about universal healthcare and many tout Cuba as an example.


Those 2 are probably no different. Think Beyonce went to Havana to give birth ?


Now Obamacare is no way single payer, however those 2 will never have to suffer under it

[spoon]

oof

there you go

fully back in all your idiotic grandeur!

[Syd]

Rich Progressives always talk about universal healthcare and many tout Cuba as an example.


Those 2 are probably no different. Think Beyonce went to Havana to give birth ?


Now Obamacare is no way single payer, however those 2 will never have to suffer under it

By what metric is the American healthcare system superior to any healthcare system? We spend more on private health insurance and public health insurance each compared to what other countries pay. We lose something like 100k people a year to preventable deaths and our mortality rate is increasing: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/04/this-map-of-americas-health-is-pretty-terrifying/

Those worst off areas are all areas that are anti-worker which means most likely no one will have insurance or be able to insure it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course our current system is flawed. It needs improvement but not Obamacare. But is it all that bad? Hell you can swim across the Rio Grande push out a couple of anchor babies and not pay a dime. People can drink themselves senseless in East LA but they can get their stomachs pumped and get top quality service and have those gringos foot the bill

Furthermore we are subsidizing our own demise. Billions given to Monsanto ADM and propping up hi fructose corn syrup

[Syd]

Monsanto is the reason why food is so cheap. They're an unmitigated evil, but they're a necessary evil. We've managed to escalate food production despite ever-worsening climate change.

[Kevin]

You want to know why Republicans always win in the south?

Because people there are idiots...

http://gawker.com/5994103/indiana-man-loses-dart-game-punches-wall-crashes-car-calls-911-to-report-himself-for-drunk-driving

[jennysmurf]

You want to know why Republicans always win in the south?

Because people there are idiots...

http://gawker.com/5994103/indiana-man-loses-dart-game-punches-wall-crashes-car-calls-911-to-report-himself-for-drunk-driving

Indiana is hardly "south."

[PapaBear]

Indiana is hardly "south."
To morons in the New York area, everything outside of NYC, and east of Cali, is "the South".

[jennysmurf]

To morons in the New York area, everything outside of NYC, and east of Cali, is "the South".

Zing!

[Kevin]

To morons in the New York area, everything outside of NYC, and east of Cali, is "the South".

As it should be...


And come on, Indy is as hick as hick can be..

So is Virginia!

[jennysmurf]

As it should be...


And come on, Indy is as hick as hick can be..

So is Virginia!

He has a point...

[PapaBear]

As it should be...


And come on, Indy is as hick as hick can be..

So is Virginia!

He has a point...
There really needs to be a third Virginia. Northern VA is a completely different world from the rest of the state. And NOVA is very, very Democrat.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

To morons in the New York area, everything outside of NYC, and east of Cali, is "the South".

The people who live in SI, Bklyn and Queens think Westchester is upstate meanwhile it takes less time to get into Manhattan from W'Chester than many parts of the outerboros.

[A.J.]

There really needs to be a third Virginia. Northern VA is a completely different world from the rest of the state. And NOVA is very, very Democrat.

This. NOVA is also full of Northeast transplants.

[hanso]

Jay Z and the misses took heat from 2 Florida house members because they went to Cuba for vacation

Not a big deal. There's more important shit to worry about.

I will say when they both get sick they should get treated by that high quality Single payer system

Where did you see this as a health issue?

[Dude!]

Where did you see this as a health issue?

same place that Kevin saw Indiana
being part of the confederacy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Where did you see this as a health issue?



It's a policy issue.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This. NOVA is also full of Northeast transplants.


Colorado became nutty because of the transplants from CA

[spoon]

To morons in the New York area, everything outside of NYC, and east of Cali, is "the South".

shut it mush mouf!

[spoon]

As it should be...


And come on, Indy is as hick as hick can be..

So is Virginia!

that dude looked like he could be your older brother kev!

[spoon]

became nutty!

ha!

[hanso]

It's a policy issue.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgI3yiYw5rHpYsR28dd9WtDaLCEK-BXOQ_wGOZdswZIowL1uDg


The way I see it..it's the right being on the wrong side of every issue yet again.
All those members were GOP - Rubio chimed in as well.

Their constituents still scream 'comunista' and those members placate for the votes.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I know there's some form of resentment from Rubio and the others who are of Cuban background . However we have relations with regimes far worse than Castro.


End that damn embargo.

[A.J.]

I know there's some form of resentment from Rubio and the others who are of Cuban background . However we have relations with regimes far worse than Castro.


End that damn embargo.

I completely agree.

[Jujubees2]

I know there's some form of resentment from Rubio and the others who are of Cuban background . However we have relations with regimes far worse than Castro.


End that damn embargo.

Finally something we can agree on!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama releases his budget proposal today. How bad is it that he's taking heat from both sides?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Blah blah blah, Same old Obama wish list. Roads and Bridges. Universal PRE-K, Investments and other cheap catch phrases.

Deficit reduction?



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[spoon]

Obama releases his budget proposal today. How bad is it that he's taking heat from both sides?

bad, you realize both sides are loaded with assholes with their hands out

i'd say anger from both sides is a good start

[spoon]

Blah blah blah, Same old Obama wish list. Roads and Bridges. Universal PRE-K, Investments and other cheap catch phrases.

Deficit reduction?



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

that all sounds good to me, now if only everything isn't blocked, delayed and attacked in an effort to have nothing done in the interest of just not letting one side or the other enact any policy or work.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

3.77 Trillion spending orgy is what he proposes.


Ryan's budget is a joke too.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

that all sounds good to me, now if only everything isn't blocked, delayed and attacked in an effort to have nothing done in the interest of just not letting one side or the other enact any policy or work.

Yup. More public sector workers, more lavish public pensions and perks. He already has head start and look at that clusterfuck. Pre K on a federal level is glorified babysitting


He got his stimulus. Wasnt all the spending on roads and bridges supposed to solve everything?


What the hell are they doing with the federal excise taxes on gasoline that is support to infrastructure and maintenance. Since Bush was in office hundreds of billions were doled out for transportation bills as well

[WRESTLINGFAN]

IRS claims they don't need warrants

http://m.cnet.com/news/irs-claims-it-can-read-your-e-mail-without-a-warrant/57578839

[Syd]

What the hell are they doing with the federal excise taxes on gasoline that is support to infrastructure and maintenance. Since Bush was in office hundreds of billions were doled out for transportation bills as well

we're like somewhere around $4-5 trillion backlogged on infrastructure work (roads, bridges, dams, aqueducts, transmission lines, etc)

going to take more than a decade or so to fix things

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And there's the clincher... Backlogged


Let's see how that Obamacare program goes.

[A.J.]

we're like somewhere around $4-5 trillion backlogged on infrastructure work (roads, bridges, dams, aqueducts, transmission lines, etc)

going to take more than a decade or so to fix things

The federal interstate highway system is over 50 years old now. Major upgrades are definitely needed here. The problem on occasion is we're building new roads without giving priority to refurbishing existing ones.

[epo]

And there's the clincher... Backlogged


Let's see how that Obamacare program goes.

Your logic: I don't like apples, so bananas must be bad too.

[jennysmurf]

Your logic: I don't like apples, so bananas must be bad too.

Bananas are grodie.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Perhaps, Obama should stop listening to Krugman and read some of this passage


http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/chap04p1.html

[epo]

Perhaps, Obama should stop listening to Krugman and read some of this passage


http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/chap04p1.html

Let me provide an equivalent for you:

You don't like James Carville's politics so you suggest he study Karl Rove.

That's how stupid your post is.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Let me provide an equivalent for you:

You don't like James Carville's politics so you suggest he study Karl Rove.

That's how stupid your post is.

You lack the logic department.


I'll break it down for you


Building a bridge that is needed serves a purpose. Building a bridge that costs a billion dollars whose only purpose is just to have another bridge is a billion dollars taken out of the private sector

[epo]

You lack the logic department.


I'll break it down for you


Building a bridge that is needed serves a purpose. Building a bridge that costs a billion dollars whose only purpose is just to have another bridge is a billion dollars taken out of the private sector

I don't like your post. You could learn something by reading posts from a user named "spoon".

If you listen to him and implement his views, you'll likely improve.

[spoon]

And there's the clincher... Backlogged


Let's see how that Obamacare program goes.


yep, that clincher of backlogged...wonder why?

and NICE TRANSITION!

oof

[spoon]

Bananas are grodie.

especially the ones PB uses with Keithy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Todd Aiken made a stupid comment and it's still being brought up today. However why is there a blackout on Kermit Gosnell who is accused of killing babies outside of the womb. Now I am pro choice but its not just a collection of cells after 9 months. What he is accused of sounds like Josef Mengele did.


Not to discount what Aiken Said, It was idiotic and ignorant but everybody keeps mentioning that 5 months after the election but hardly a peep on Gosnell.


I guess to get non stop coverage is to say something goofy like put an aspirin between your knees as birth control

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558032_10152763838940515_1738555212_n.jpg

[epo]

Todd Aiken made a stupid comment and it's still being brought up today. However why is there a blackout on Kermit Gosnell who is accused of killing babies outside of the womb. Now I am pro choice but its not just a collection of cells after 9 months. What he is accused of sounds like Josef Mengele did.


Not to discount what Aiken Said, It was idiotic and ignorant but everybody keeps mentioning that 5 months after the election but hardly a peep on Gosnell.


I guess to get non stop coverage is to say something goofy like put an aspirin between your knees as birth control

You really don't understand how the media works, do you?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You really don't understand how the media works, do you?



Sure do


If Gosnell used a gun to kill those newborns it would be wall to wall coverage


Let's be more outraged about a 2 bit congressman saying wetback

[spoon]

So epo's point stands...thanks for playing.

[epo]

So epo's point stands...thanks for playing.

That is correct.

[KnoxHarrington]

I have no idea why the "pro-life" people (who only are pro-life when you're a fetus or a vegetable, between those two times go fuck yourself) think that wall-to-wall coverage of this Gosnell story would help them. If anything, it just shows the need to expand availability of pre-natal services -- including safe abortions. But the same assholes foaming at the mouth about this story want to kill Planned Parenthood's funding.

There really aren't any political movements out there with less actual credibility than the "pro-life" assholes.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That is correct.

Hence, we have a dumbed down society and low info voting base

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Gosnell was performing these in Philadelphia. So there was access to prenatal care. Furthermore abortion is not going anywhere. Whatever goofy propositions some of these pro life politicians come up with will be struck down.


Instead of sidestepping why not focus on what Gosnell is accused of.

A lot of these babies were minorities and Gosnell is black. If Gosnell were white this would be national news. Doesn't fit Sharptons and Jacksons agenda.


The media blows. It was more important to cover nonstop some Basketball coach who was rough around his players.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This is why both parties blow big time



'If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted'

This is what GOP Rep Steve Stockman sold as bumper stickers to raise funds for his 2014 re election


:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[spoon]

Hence, we have a dumbed down society and low info voting base

indeed, but you don't even realize you're talking about yourself

[hanso]

I have no idea why the "pro-life" people (who only are pro-life when you're a fetus or a vegetable, between those two times go fuck yourself) think that wall-to-wall coverage of this Gosnell story would help them. If anything, it just shows the need to expand availability of pre-natal services -- including safe abortions. But the same assholes foaming at the mouth about this story want to kill Planned Parenthood's funding.

There really aren't any political movements out there with less actual credibility than the "pro-life" assholes.

States rights have made it just about unavailable in some places. I forget the state but from gerrymandering it was down to one clinic and it was going down.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Amazing how there's deflection and dismissal of the actual crime and offering excuses. That Doctor knew exactly what he did.


Then again there would be more outcry if he used an AR-15

That's like saying Jamal in Chicago was involved in 5 murders because there wasn't enough midnight basketball.

[spoon]

we heard your idiotic comment the first 15 times

for fuck's sake, even if you had an actual point it would be boring by now and always loaded with bullshit hard on statements for your favs

[spoon]

I figured it all out, the GOP and those that masquerade as some better, conservative/constitutional scholar version of them, all act like SUCH idiots it takes from ripping down their actual policy. It actually becomes about the idiots like WF, not the absolutely disconnected and unrealistic/unreasonable policies like hating gay marriage, abortion law and so many causing many of the very problems they blame the other side for as they come in and dig the fuck out AGAIN.

Neither side is perfect, but man one is clearly more the fool and WF you represent them so well. Tell me again about pawns in gun policy and then throw the ONE parent on the other side of things in and his take tied to Fox's agenda (I'm sure there are more but surely NOT the majority). Tell me again how if AR-15's were used with anything we'd hear all about it with outcries loud and constant. Let me hear more of Obama's use of his vacation time and how he golfs effecting his lazy work ethic we clearly see with all these things you hate that he's involved with. Blame Obama and others recently in power for years of issues in Chicago bc state senators of course can change things there in seconds, much less one of them. And it's just on them bc other areas just keep old policy on guns and hence the regulations have very little teeth. Oh well, I can go on forever with your basketball bullshit comments, mud huts and so much more daily. You don't have answers, much less constructive dialogue for ANYTHING. Just your way based on your bible when it fits your desires, and a whole lot of vitriol and senseless comments on the other side of any argument whenever you have a shot to lay in with some GOD FUCKING AWFUL jokes.

Keep on keeping on you fucking fool.

Here, found you an anthem and personal message from me to you in the chorus.

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

I figured it all out, the GOP and those that masquerade as some better, conservative/constitutional scholar version of them, all act like SUCH idiots it takes from ripping down their actual policy. It actually becomes about the idiots like WF, not the absolutely disconnected and unrealistic/unreasonable policies like hating gay marriage, abortion law and so many causing many of the very problems they blame the other side for as they come in and dig the fuck out AGAIN.

Neither side is perfect, but man one is clearly more the fool and WF you represent them so well. Tell me again about pawns in gun policy and then throw the ONE parent on the other side of things in and his take tied to Fox's agenda (I'm sure there are more but surely NOT the majority). Tell me again how if AR-15's were used with anything we'd hear all about it with outcries loud and constant. Let me hear more of Obama's use of his vacation time and how he golfs effecting his lazy work ethic we clearly see with all these things you hate that he's involved with. Blame Obama and others recently in power for years of issues in Chicago bc state senators of course can change things there in seconds, much less one of them. And it's just on them bc other areas just keep old policy on guns and hence the regulations have very little teeth. Oh well, I can go on forever with your basketball bullshit comments, mud huts and so much more daily. You don't have answers, much less constructive dialogue for ANYTHING. Just your way based on your bible when it fits your desires, and a whole lot of vitriol and senseless comments on the other side of any argument whenever you have a shot to lay in with some GOD FUCKING AWFUL jokes.

Keep on keeping on you fucking fool.

Here, found you an anthem and personal message from me to you in the chorus.

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Can you ever bring up a comment without saying Fox?


Also you must be very slow. Whatever the Doc did, I don't want abortions banned or strictly limited to what was proposed in some states where you can't get one after 6 weeks.

I get a kick out of what you say when I have no solutions but at the same times we should rely on the politicans for guidance.


Both sides are horrendous. They come up with more of these bills that number in the hundreds of pages and the dumbed down electorate still has faith in them.

[hanso]

WF upset with todd aiken re-hash? O&A went off on the Guam island thing the other day if you want to call them media. And that was alot older than aiken.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

WF upset with todd aiken re-hash? O&A went off on the Guam island thing the other day if you want to call them media. And that was alot older than aiken.

That Guam comment didn't receive a fraction of attention compared to Aiken.


Going forward we are still going to hear about his stupid comments.

[spoon]

Can you ever bring up a comment without saying Fox?

Stupid bc you brought it to the table AGAIN with the parent's interview ON FOX...and it's the first fucking time in a while tied to your post. Nice bullshit defense mechanism used much more then tossed at you even though you earn it every damn time.

Also you must be very slow. Whatever the Doc did, I don't want abortions banned or strictly limited to what was proposed in some states where you can't get one after 6 weeks.
Second, nobody claimed you don't want abortion. The only one slow here is you, or just your normal purposely confused self to push bs points. It was said you don't understand the media bc of your comments. But hey, make shit up some more and call everyone else slow/off.

I get a kick out of what you say when I have no solutions but at the same times we should rely on the politicans for guidance.I get a kick out of how you just make shit up...again. Show me where I said let's rely on the politicians for guidance? Such a stupid comment tied to actually AGREEING with their choices once in a while. You're an idiot.


Both sides are horrendous. They come up with more of these bills that number in the hundreds of pages and the dumbed down electorate still has faith in them.

Most in red for me, and on the last part, I guess you think that's a new trend huh?! You only care when the bulk doesn't line up with your train of "thought". The dumbed down electorate has voted for both sides based on the fringe issues both push, but yah, this time things don't favor your policy or lack there of. What do you propose to stop this "dumbed down electorate" WF? Is that code for something too? I'm sure it is being I'm talking to a racist cunt.

[spoon]

That Guam comment didn't receive a fraction of attention compared to Aiken.


Going forward we are still going to hear about his stupid comments.

again, media

wf, idiot

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Most in red for me, and on the last part, I guess you think that's a new trend huh?! You only care when the bulk doesn't line up with your train of "thought". The dumbed down electorate has voted for both sides based on the fringe issues both push, but yah, this time things don't favor your policy or lack there of. What do you propose to stop this "dumbed down electorate" WF? Is that code for something too? I'm sure it is being I'm talking to a racist cunt.

I'm talking to a dumb cunt like you. I love how you assumed the low info voters are only black. Nice assumption dummy.


Are you that stupid that a lot of dumb whites vote too. Thank you for proving again and again how you lack any rational thought.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

again, media

wf, idiot

Yes dopey. And that is why the media helps in dumbing down the electorate.

[spoon]

I'm talking to a dumb cunt like you. I love how you assumed the low info voters are only black. Nice assumption dummy.


Are you that stupid that a lot of dumb whites vote too. Thank you for proving again and again how you lack any rational thought.

ha, guess you missed the "vote for both sides" point, but I know you didn't and you tried to use it as an out

oh and nice grab at me assuming black, yet you did that very thing bc I could have been talking about many other parts of the dem voting block you hate for such pure reasons

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ha, guess you missed the "vote for both sides" point, but I know you didn't and you tried to use it as an out

oh and nice grab at me assuming black, yet you did that very thing bc I could have been talking about many other parts of the dem voting block you hate for such pure reasons

Again the dumbed down voting block includes all races and both parties.

Dumb whites keep reelecting congressmen and senators in the deep south who think Jesus walked with Dinosaurs.

[spoon]

again you're a fucking fool

thanks for repeating things said as if you said them and others are disagreeing

fuckwad fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A fool said a few months back that if it was imminent that Romney would win , I would vote for him

[spoon]

good point fuckwad...oops sorry bout that

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1331267339855_9824807.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So he wasn't concerned 3 years ago when he voted yes?


http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/294501-baucus-warns-of-huge-train-wreck-in-obamacare-implementation

[spoon]

Says who?

Sounds like the opposife you ass. Never let facts get in the way of a awful/biased post header.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Says who?

Sounds like the opposife you ass. Never let facts get in the way of a awful/biased post header.

Says his voting for that piece of garbage bill.

[spoon]

That's fucking stupid as his concern is the implementation of said reform, not the bill itself. You're a persistent/intentional fool.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just like with everything else, It had to be passed to see what's in the bill. Get it passed, rush it thru just to say that something was passed.


The roofer's union recently came out in opposition to Obamacare. This thing is going to be one of the biggest gagglefucks ever.

[spoon]

Well roofing unions are the experts in gagglefucks, so there is that.

Oof

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That would be the UAW

[spoon]

And u would be an ASS.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

One of the co creators of Obamacare Max Baucus wont run for reelection.


Good riddance

[spoon]

One of the co creators of Obamacare Max Baucus wont run for reelection.


Good riddance

OH MY GOD, you forgot punctuation!

GOTCHAAA!!!

:smoke:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We're even.

[Jujubees2]

One of the co creators of Obamacare Max Baucus wont run for reelection.


Good riddance

I'm Such A Shitty Senator (http://www.theonion.com/articles/im-such-a-shitty-senator,10801/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default)

[spoon]

no we are not even typo/autocorrect message board editor. I couldn't care less about simple text entry errors here when typing from the shitter on a phone...but then again, when your content is worse than what I'm leaving in the toilet, you have to have your posting crutches don't you

bottom line, you're an idiot

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no we are not even typo/autocorrect message board editor. I couldn't care less about simple text entry errors here when typing from the shitter on a phone...but then again, when your content is worse than what I'm leaving in the toilet, you have to have your posting crutches don't you

bottom line, you're an idiot

Yes we are.


Back to Max. This guy helps write the piece of garbage Obamacare clusterfuck and now that all the shit is seaping out on how bad it is, he decides to retire instead of losing an election.

[A.J.]

Yes we are.


Back to Max. This guy helps write the piece of garbage Obamacare clusterfuck and now that all the shit is seaping out on how bad it is, he decides to retire instead of losing an election.

Hey, it worked for Chris Dodd.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hey, it worked for Chris Dodd.

Speaking of Dodd


http://www.mpaa.org/about/ceo

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How dare Rangel get censured for violating the laws he writes.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/04/22/charles-rangel-censure-lawsuit-ethics-boehner/2104781/

[hanso]

Members of the U.S. Congress are demanding investigations into the canards that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased enough ammunition to wage a “7-year war against the American people” and the theory promulgated by Glenn Beck that a Saudi national with connections to the bombing was briefly detained then released, and that Michelle Obama visited this mysterious person in the hospital.

Hope folks remember actions like these when they vote.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obamacare, so great. The politicians want no part of it.


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/obamacare-exemption-lawmakers-aides-90610.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fleet week canned this year. Guess why?

However theres buckets of cash for everything else like giving to corrupt 3rd world sewers. Welfare to terrorists and other handouts.

[A.J.]

Fleet week canned this year. Guess why?.

That's gotta hurt the whores and strip clubs who depend on those Navy dollars!

[sailor]

What does fleet week cost? They're just parking the boats and they have to do that somewhere anyways, or is there other shit involved?

And only 17 year old girls care about fleet week.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Golf and vacations. Full steam ahead !!!

[hanso]

Barbara Bush says there have been enough Bushes in the White House

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Barbara Bush says there have been enough Bushes in the White House

She's right.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No money for meat inspectors but money for this program.

Pssst. Before anyone says a word. This was started before the Obama administration

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-usda-records-sponsoring-u-s-food-stamp-program-for-illegal-aliens/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Keep the champagne on ice.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100678290


Can't wait for the excuses, the blaming and the lack of accountability. The Fed buys 85 billion worth of MBS every month and is supposed to stimulate the economy. 2.5% after 4 years is pathetic.

[A.J.]

Barbara Bush says there have been enough Bushes in the White House

Enough Merkins too.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bZ8KE9IMdm0/ThZwig9T3TI/AAAAAAAAAcA/fexBol5_ck8/s1600/president.jpg

[hanso]

Barbara Bush says there have been enough Bushes in the White House

I'll take a swing at this soft ball


She ment Clinton.

[Pitdoc]

Congress passes law repealing sequestration........


...Oh, only in the part where they don't furlough flight controllers . Guess those congressman don't want 3 hr waits when they try to leave Washington.. Or the fact that finally , the public is starting to feel cuts on THEM , and would bitch

Kinda wish Obama would veto it, and say "Hey assholes, you PASSED these cuts, LIVE with them."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Look what we have here. Billions paid out for people who never used a hoe in their lives.
From that teabagger of a newspaper the NY Times


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/us/farm-loan-bias-claims-often-unsupported-cost-us-millions.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&pagewanted=all&_r=0


Don't worry though. Obamacare will run like a well oiled machine

[spoon]

Congress passes law repealing sequestration........


...Oh, only in the part where they don't furlough flight controllers . Guess those congressman don't want 3 hr waits when they try to leave Washington.. Or the fact that finally , the public is starting to feel cuts on THEM , and would bitch

Kinda wish Obama would veto it, and say "Hey assholes, you PASSED these cuts, LIVE with them."

agreed on that last part

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The less time these parasites are in DC the better

[foodcourtdruide]

Congress passes law repealing sequestration........


...Oh, only in the part where they don't furlough flight controllers . Guess those congressman don't want 3 hr waits when they try to leave Washington.. Or the fact that finally , the public is starting to feel cuts on THEM , and would bitch

Kinda wish Obama would veto it, and say "Hey assholes, you PASSED these cuts, LIVE with them."

Nah, Obama only defends the working class when there's a major election around the corner. Maybe in mid-2014.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The NeoCons are salivating, hoping for another military adventure. Now that there are reports that Assad used chemical weapons , watch for McCain and Graham to call for intervention

[epo]

The NeoCons are salivating, hoping for another military adventure. Now that there are reports that Assad used chemical weapons , watch for McCain and Graham to call for intervention

Didn't they already call for that last week?

WF is to timely news as Matt Drudge is to attractive web design.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Didn't they already call for that last week?

WF is to timely news as Matt Drudge is to attractive web design.

Actually,They've been calling for it since 2011.




Because intervening in civil wars always turns out great. Especially in more recent times in Muslim countries.

So who do we arm in Syria? Elements of Al Qaeda or..... We can go Shi'ite and give Hezbollah weapons.

[spoon]

Actually,They've been calling for it since 2011.




Because intervening in civil wars always turns out great. Especially in more recent times in Muslim countries.

So who do we arm in Syria? Elements of Al Qaeda or..... We can go Shi'ite and give Hezbollah weapons.

whichever way you think is right, I'd go the opposite

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Non intervention. So does that mean Lead from behind for you?

[Syd]

Actually,They've been calling for it since 2011.




Because intervening in civil wars always turns out great. Especially in more recent times in Muslim countries.

So who do we arm in Syria? Elements of Al Qaeda or..... We can go Shi'ite and give Hezbollah weapons.

Same ones we have been arming since 2007, the Sunni. The West has been changing allegiance toward them but when America began openly supporting them it became the real tipping point.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Army doesn't want tanks. Congress says. Too bad!!!!!


Gotta payback those defense contractors and this is why both parties blow!!!!!


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TOO_MANY_TANKS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-04-28-08-58-08

[hanso]

whichever way you think is right, I'd go the opposite

Have to keep flipping that coin then

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That recovery is full steam ahead. Praise Barack and his Keynesian theories

Adp reports 119,000 private sector jobs much lower than expected. March numbers revised down , factory activity lowest in 6 months. Politico reports Support for Obamacare down,


So will we be going into recovery summer 2013?

Lets hear the same lame excuses

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Larry Flynt endorses Mark Sanford

Donates $2600 the maximum amount due to his sexual hypocrisy according to Flynt

[Syd]

Government spending down -> lowered aggregate demand?

whoda thunk (hint: everyone)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And there lies the problem.

Relying on Keynesian principles.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Let's see what Bernanke has in his bag of tricks.


Buying 85 billion in MBS is inflating the stock market bubble, however the economy isn't as fortunate.


How about QE Infinity?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Think Obama will demand background checks ?
He can have Holder give out weapons just like he did for the Mexican drug cartels.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/05/01/Obama-said-close-to-arming-Syrian-rebels/UPI-82351367393400/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So according to that logic, would these include legitimate rapes?


http://www.examiner.com/article/house-democrats-claim-global-warming-will-drive-women-to-prostitution

[Syd]

Let's see what Bernanke has in his bag of tricks.


Buying 85 billion in MBS is inflating the stock market bubble, however the economy isn't as fortunate.


How about QE Infinity?

Instead, let's rely on an economic system that breaks the laws of physics!

Aces!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Screw that. More central planning!!! That's how to grow an economy

While we are at it. Nix Obamacare. Full single payer. Medicaid for all

[spoon]

exactly

single payer for the win

[epo]

Screw that. More central planning!!! That's how to grow an economy

While we are at it. Nix Obamacare. Full single payer. Medicaid for all

It's nice to see that you are a single payer kind of guy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's nice to see that you are a single payer kind of guy.



Someone revive HR 676



Universal childcare and Pre K too !!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Today, El Presidente was in Ole May-hee-co campaigning and pandering to future citizens. He's trying to assure them that our laws are unjust and that we have no right to deport their unwanted back.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Don't open the champagne


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-03/april-payrolls-165000-75-unemployment-rate-participation-rate-flat-1979-levels

[Syd]

Today, El Presidente was in Ole May-hee-co campaigning and pandering to future citizens. He's trying to assure them that our laws are unjust and that we have no right to deport their unwanted back.

the only thing more dripping than the racism in this statement is the queso from the fondue fountain

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Did Spoon hijack your account?

So Mexico is not encouraging their needy to come here illegally? I said this before. The Mexican government is very clever. Their poor come here, they get babysat and their former citizens send billions back in remittances which is up there in revenue next to oil exports and tourism.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Today he blames the US for their violence without ever mentioning that his AG walked assault weapons over to the cartels.

No background checks for Los Zetas. Then again weapons are going to Jihadists in Syria. No background checks there either.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

2 Years since Bin Laden was killed and that Pakistani doctor who gave us the lead to get him is still in prison.


I guess he needs to be a Gay NBA player to get any attention from this president

[hanso]

That recovery is full steam ahead. Praise Barack and his Keynesian theories

Adp reports 119,000 private sector jobs much lower than expected. March numbers revised down , factory activity lowest in 6 months. Politico reports Support for Obamacare down,


So will we be going into recovery summer 2013?

Lets hear the same lame excuses

U.S. adds 165,000 jobs in April, lowering unemployment to 7.5 percent


WASHINGTON — The US economy added a solid 165,000 jobs in April, and the unemployment rate fell from 7.6 percent to 7.5 percent, its lowest level since December 2008, the Labor Department said Friday.

The better-than-expected monthly jobs data also showed much stronger hiring in February and March — data revisions showed 114,000 more jobs were generated than originally thought in that period.

The job gains were all in the private sector, as government continued to shed jobs amid tough spending cuts.

But the overall number of people counted as officially unemployed was little changed at 11.7 million.

Let's see what Bernanke has in his bag of tricks.


Buying 85 billion in MBS is inflating the stock market bubble, however the economy isn't as fortunate.


How about QE Infinity?

Dow rockets past 15,000 for first time after lastest jobs report

The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose above 15,000 for the first time Friday following a solid US jobs report.

At 1429 GMT, the Dow reached 15,000.54, up 173.96, or 1.17 percent. The rise followed a US Labor Department report that showed the US economy added 165,000 jobs in April, well above market expectations.

Thought John McLaughlin was off the air, but I found he is on every week. I will start watching it. And if he uses his old catch phrase...

Wrong! I will Lol & think of WF

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What you failed to mention is that participation rate in the labor mkt is at Jimmy Carter levels

Also hourly rates for labor aren't up


But you're free to cheer when Jim Cramer has an orgasm tonight

[WRESTLINGFAN]

PS The U6 rate went up.

Manufacturing got pummeled. Most of these jobs were part time service sector jobs

Restaurants cut back on full time due to the cancer known as Obamacare , thus they hire more part timers to cover the slack

[Syd]

Plus, with more people being insured that's something like 30,000 less people dying per year. Obamacare is keeping people from working at graveyards. Truly a jobkilling bill!

(if restaurants can't operate while giving people basic life necessities, they need to either raise prices the 10-15 cents a plate or they need to go out of business and the owners be put against the wall)

[spoon]

Did Spoon hijack your account?

So Mexico is not encouraging their needy to come here illegally? I said this before. The Mexican government is very clever. Their poor come here, they get babysat and their former citizens send billions back in remittances which is up there in revenue next to oil exports and tourism.


Yah sure, it was the point behind your racist commentary Syd was pointing out, much taking a side on. So fucking stupid and billions huh? Is this weekly? Fill me in racial expert.

[spoon]

2 Years since Bin Laden was killed and that Pakistani doctor who gave us the lead to get him is still in prison.


I guess he needs to be a Gay NBA player to get any attention from this president

Nice. You never let anyone down.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yah sure, it was the point behind your racist commentary Syd was pointing out, much taking a side on. So fucking stupid and billions huh? Is this weekly? Fill me in racial expert.

Pointing out that Mexico exports its poor unwanted, uneducated people here is somewhat racist? You really are a 1 trick douche.


Yes Billions. Remittances are a huge cash cow for Mexico. In fact more than 20 billion per year.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nice. You never let anyone down.

This government let that doctor down. Thanks for the tip to get OBL. Sorry about being stuck in a rotten Pakistani jail bro.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Plus, with more people being insured that's something like 30,000 less people dying per year. Obamacare is keeping people from working at graveyards. Truly a jobkilling bill!

(if restaurants can't operate while giving people basic life necessities, they need to either raise prices the 10-15 cents a plate or they need to go out of business and the owners be put against the wall)

Obamacare isn't going to get all these millions of people into insurance except the states that expand medicaid.


Obamacare is such a shitstorm even major Democrats are starting to run away from it.


The law should be killed because it's invalid. Robert's declared it a tax. It was originated in the senate. The constitution mandates that all bills for raising revenue are to originate in the House.

[Syd]

If the court felt that way, they would have ruled that way. Plus, it originated in a container bill sent to the senate.

On top of that, Democrats are running away from it because Obamacare is the old Republican bill from the 90s that is a massive give-away to the insurance industry

why the fuck do you think the only support they could muster against it was a couple of mercenaries masquerading as Republicans?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I recall the house having HR 3200 but reid didn't like what was in it so it ended up being gutted.


It was a horrible idea in the 90's. These republicans whine about the welfare state but are A OK when it comes to corporate welfare.


Reid said it would be a train wreck because no one knows the true cost so he wants more money to implement it.

[hanso]

Pointing out that Mexico exports its poor unwanted, uneducated people here is somewhat racist? You really are a 1 trick douche.


Yes Billions. Remittances are a huge cash cow for Mexico. In fact more than 20 billion per year.

From #'s I've seen you post, they have a better GDP. So why haven't you moved there Mr. libertarian? And if you are a true libertarian, why haven't you railed over bitcoin even once?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From #'s I've seen you post, they have a better GDP. So why haven't you moved there Mr. libertarian? And if you are a true libertarian, why haven't you railed over bitcoin even once?

I don't want to end up being kidnapped and beheaded by the cartels. May-hee-co also has some of the most strict gun control laws on the planet so I would not be able to defend myself.


Mexico is not a poor country. They are in the top 20 when it comes to GDP. It is a country infested with corruption.

Not completely sold on bitcoin yet.

[spoon]

Pointing out that Mexico exports its poor unwanted, uneducated people here is somewhat racist? You really are a 1 trick douche.


yet you prove it in almost every post, and then tie into the other side of your post in your retorts.

you simply are too dumb to notice, too angry to even try to mask it

the one trick is right, you are a boring monotonous fool

[spoon]

I don't want to end up being kidnapped and beheaded by the cartels. May-hee-co also has some of the most strict gun control laws on the planet so I would not be able to defend myself.


Mexico is not a poor country. They are in the top 20 when it comes to GDP. It is a country infested with corruption.

Not completely sold on bitcoin yet.

sigh

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Go live in Juarez or TJ see how long you last unarmed

[spoon]

Good point idiot.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

But there's gun control in Mexico. You'll be safe

[spoon]

Oh sure thing, apples to apples with that comp. awesome

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Notice there's been a media blackout of Pigford after it was exposed that people who never used a hoe in their lives were given money by the USDA ?


Kermit Gosnell might get convicted this week.


Let's focus on the President calling a gay nba player

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Feds fuck up on Payments to farmers but they are to be trusted with implementing Obamacare.

[spoon]

Notice there's been a media blackout of Pigford after it was exposed that people who never used a hoe in their lives were given money by the USDA ?


Kermit Gosnell might get convicted this week.


Let's focus on the President calling a gay nba player

squawk!

[spoon]

The Feds fuck up on Payments to farmers but they are to be trusted with implementing Obamacare.

derp :wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course that would be your comment

Keep those spigots open, Gotta dole out the greenbacks to people who have never left the city.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Senate passes Internet tax bill. I love how they gave it a feel good euphanysm


It's expected to die in the house.

[Syd]

Senate passes Internet tax bill. I love how they gave it a feel good euphanysm


It's expected to die in the house.

It's backed by WalMart and Amazon, both of which are big on locating warehouses in low standard of living states. It'll pass in the House, just buried somewhere.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course the big companies want this, plus they have all the programs / software to comply

Big corps love big government

[Syd]

It's a tool to use by the free market, because citizens don't want true monopolies. That's why laissez faire politics are a fairy tale. They can't exist any more than Superman can.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The bigger companies want this because they won't have to be in compliance. They can hire lawyers to find loopholes as with every other tax law.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of taxes , Lauryn Hill blamed slavery for her conviction of evading taxes on earnings of about a million dollars.


If she had any common sense I would feel sorry for her. She should vet her anger at the 16th amendment

[spoon]

yes vet your anger

[epo]

Notice there's been a media blackout of Pigford after it was exposed that people who never used a hoe in their lives were given money by the USDA ?


Kermit Gosnell might get convicted this week.


Let's focus on the President calling a gay nba player

There is nothing more pathetic than a right-winger consistently bringing up Dr Gosnell as a talking point.

Fail!

[epo]

Speaking of taxes , Lauryn Hill blamed slavery for her conviction of evading taxes on earnings of about a million dollars.


If she had any common sense I would feel sorry for her. She should vet her anger at the 16th amendment

Why do you hate the constitution?

Commie.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There is nothing more pathetic than a right-winger consistently bringing up Dr Gosnell as a talking point.

Fail!

There's nothing more pathetic than someone saying Right winger. Its just as bad when Librulzzzz is tossed into a discussion

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why do you hate the constitution?

Commie.

The progressive income tax is based on pillars of communism.

[spoon]

Epo, he prefers fool or idiot...fuckwad fool too if extra spice is needed. the parrot will come back at you with almost the same thing so be ready for that awesome sauce!

:lol:

[Syd]

I'm still wondering about the hate on income tax. Would going back to tariffs be better?

Of course, tariffs are mostly a Juche thing. Not sure we want to be North Korea, right?

[A.J.]

I'm still wondering about the hate on income tax. Would going back to tariffs be better?

Of course, tariffs are mostly a Juche thing. Not sure we want to be North Korea, right?

Smoot–Hawley 4eva!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The hate on the income tax is because like everything else, it was sold on lies. Only the rich would pay and the top marginal rate was 7%

Also it was ratified the same year as the creation of the Fed, That was done by design

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Colbert-Busch vs Sanford. Who ya got ?

[brettmojo]

Colbert-Busch vs Sanford. Who ya got ?

turd sandwich

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They're both defective

[brettmojo]

They're both defective

I know nothing of Colbert's sister... But the turd sandwich that was derelict of his duties was chasing South American poon wouldn't get my vote.

[Syd]

http://i.imgur.com/HyipArV.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Look how they are spending the revenue. Ranging from a welfare state, to unnecessary wars. military industrial complex, a police state, and out of control social programs. Along with the revenue, there should be how the size and scope the federal government has expanded.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I know nothing of Colbert's sister... But the turd sandwich that was derelict of his duties was chasing South American poon wouldn't get my vote.

He's a hypocrite. He wanted Clinton out in 1998 but he ends up getting some side snatch.


Polls just closed. Sanford won.

[Syd]

Look how they are spending the revenue. Ranging from a welfare state, to unnecessary wars. military industrial complex, a police state, and out of control social programs. Along with the revenue, there should be how the size and scope the federal government has expanded.

Yes but taxation really hasn't changed since America became a world power. And the debt doesn't matter.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Look at the cost of becoming a world power. Empires collapse and the US will eventually

Debt doesn't matter if it's not being paid for today

[Syd]

Debt doesn't matter period because capitalism is built on a safe investment such as American sovereign debt.

Also, if we're not a world power we're Pakistan, Argentina or another country that has severe sovereignty issues.

[Syd]

or Canada/Finland

World powers will come in and secure mineral reserves in disputed waters simply because they can say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksR1IGYeJOg&t=25s

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We are such a world power that we couldn't secure those mineral rights in Afghanistan. Over 2000 men killed and a more than a trillion dollars spent just to prop up another corrupt government and fund the poppyseed trade.


All debt isn't bad if you can manage it. Eventually the game runs out. We will be dead and buried so we won't be around when the fun really begins

[Syd]

All debt isn't bad if you can manage it. Eventually the game runs out. We will be dead and buried so we won't be around when the fun really begins

Yes, but capitalism runs out too. You can't have unlimited growth in a world with limited natural resources. Probably sooner than "the debt" will matter as well since we're less than 2 decades away from more severe water shortages by anyone fed by the Colorado river, we're about to poison the Ogallala aquifer so a few Canadian companies can make shale oil more fungible (if we don't simply use up the aquifer first) and states like Georgia have to go to court to dispute land so they can get water rights.

But, hey, debt bad.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those examples are crony capitalism. The same governments making back room deals are putting up barriers to entry


Capitalism will always survive. Even after post apocalyptic disaster people will be involved in voluntary trade.


The kind of debt we have is bad. Monetizing debt leads to ruin.

[Syd]

Why is it bad, and how does it lead to ruin?

[Syd]

In voter breakdown news, how fucked is the GOP on the national stage?

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113160/november-2012-census-data-obamas-coalition-will-hold-together


Completely. Even if minority turnout regresses to the mean, the share of white voters has dropped so steeply that the only thing the GOP can hope for is anything on Benghazi to stick to Clinton. And since it was just some guy who watched too much Top Gun and too little of Blackhawk Down, I don't particularly see that happening.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the fed will try to devise more schemes but luck runs out eventually. The fed is trying to manipulate the laws of economics.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The GOP ran another flawed candidate in 2012. It was a poorly run campaign. He let the opposition define him and would not fire back. There was a horrible ground game campaign.

The coveted Hispanic vote wouldn't have brought him the WH. Lets say things were reversed and he won 70% of their vote he would have lost.


The electorate is getting more dumbed down. Low info whites gave Obama the victory.

Even if there was evidence Hillary lied about Benghazi, people have short memories. By 2016 People will think Benghazi is a drink 20 somethings have to emulate Sex and the City cast members.


Ted Kennedy kept being reelected for leaving a woman to die. Hell SC district 1 sent back an adulterer who used taxpayer funds for some side snatch

[epo]

Don't worry WF, you'll love HRC as your President!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And why is she going to win?


Because it's her time. It's not based on merit. Just like in 2008 when it was Barack's time. They had to get someone elected who wasn't old and white. Nevermind is many faults and awful policy proposals.


In 2016 it's Ovaries for the oval office.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

National elections now are for whoever deserves the spot. The GOP is just as guilty

McCain in 2008 because he lost to Dubya
Romney 2012 due to bowing out in 2008
Christie 2016, hes Chris Christie

[Syd]

The GOP ran another flawed candidate in 2012. It was a poorly run campaign. He let the opposition define him and would not fire back. There was a horrible ground game campaign.

He was the "business pick" during the time of a recession.

The electorate is getting more dumbed down. Low info whites gave Obama the victory.

Whites broke for Romney more sharply than they did for McCain in 2008

Because it's her time. It's not based on merit. Just like in 2008 when it was Barack's time. They had to get someone elected who wasn't old and white. Nevermind is many faults and awful policy proposals.

It was HRC's time, and Obama led part of the young DLC crowd against the traditional DLC vanguard. They revolutionized elections through Organizing for America and the Democrats aren't going to ever look back. The GOP is still in the stone age with competing information services led by for-profit companies. They'll never match OFA.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

OFA may end up blowing it's load. No organization is invincible.


Then again, the GOP leadership will find another way to fail in 2016

[spoon]

And why is she going to win?


Because it's her time. It's not based on merit. Just like in 2008 when it was Barack's time. They had to get someone elected who wasn't old and white. Nevermind is many faults and awful policy proposals.


In 2016 it's Ovaries for the oval office.

yep, idiot

and as for Barack's time? it was hardly his, he fucking took it like him or not

if the dems followed the pattern you speak of, both Clinton and Barack never would have had their shots in the end. And in 2008 based on the past that did happen, Hillary would have been the candidate...yet she had it taken from her from Obama.

[spoon]

the fed will try to devise more schemes but luck runs out eventually. The fed is trying to manipulate the laws of economics.

you speak of these "law of economics" as if they are as sure as the laws of science, like gravity and thermodynamics...so sorry

your laws of economics are about as concrete as the environmental studies paid for by the oil lobby/companies or that Lancet study on autism linked to vaccinations

[A.J.]

National elections now are for whoever deserves the spot. The GOP is just as guilty

McCain in 2008 because he lost to Dubya
Romney 2012 due to bowing out in 2008
Christie 2016, hes Chris Christie

With the exception of Dubya, the GOP has recently chosen their candidates as a reward for service. See Dole 1996 and McCain 2008.

God, I wish Huntsman had won that primary. Or that Gary Johnson ran for the GOP. Instead, Romney had to cave to the mouth-breathing, Bible-thumping idiots.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yep, idiot

and as for Barack's time? it was hardly his, he fucking took it like him or not

if the dems followed the pattern you speak of, both Clinton and Barack never would have had their shots in the end. And in 2008 based on the past that did happen, Hillary would have been the candidate...yet she had it taken from her from Obama.

Hillary underestimated the persona of Obama. 2008 was about her and when there were calls of Racism to Bill, the momentum went to Barack. Once Barack was black enough for the Sharptons of the world the momentum shifted. 2016 is a bone thrown to her for bowing out and becoming Sec of state.

[A.J.]

Hillary underestimated the persona of Obama. 2008 was about her and when there were calls of Racism to Bill, the momentum went to Barack. Once Barack was black enough for the Sharptons of the world the momentum shifted. 2016 is a bone thrown to her for bowing out and becoming Sec of state.

She has to get by Biden first. :laugh:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How many times has Biden run since reconstruction?

[A.J.]

How many times has Biden run since reconstruction?

You mean the reconstruction of his hairline?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You mean the reconstruction of his hairline?

:lol:

[spoon]

Hillary underestimated the persona of Obama. 2008 was about her and when there were calls of Racism to Bill, the momentum went to Barack. Once Barack was black enough for the Sharptons of the world the momentum shifted. 2016 is a bone thrown to her for bowing out and becoming Sec of state.

oh yes sure, SHARPTON put Obama over the top! hahahahahaha!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

oh yes sure, SHARPTON put Obama over the top! hahahahahaha!

He does have influence with his people.


Before Hillary fizzled out she was the one blacker than Obama

[spoon]

oh she is?

hahahahahaha!

keep talking idiot

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hillary was married to the 1st black President. Plus she spoke that Baptist preacher lingo to those black churches

[spoon]

and there we go

another shot to put out your bullshit with a classic WF rant

:wallbash:

you never talk, you just post like a dumb 13 year old asshole kid in the comment section of youtube or an article with consistent Obama hate and racist undertones

it's like listening to a kid while playing Call of Duty online...nonsensical hate, anger and racism just bc you have nothing else

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No dummy

It's analyzing the news and forming my own judgements

Nice call on the racist comment you repetitive twat , and you accuse me of parroting


PS. I disagree with the White half of Barack

[spoon]

No dummy

It's analyzing the news and forming my own judgements

Nice call on the racist comment you repetitive twat , and you accuse me of parroting


PS. I disagree with the White half of Barack

your own judgements...hahahahahahahaaaaa!

and yes I do accuse you of parroting...my comment isn't the same, as it's repetition based on your repeated racist remarks to put it lightly

and there's the WF factor

what, no off the cuff rants?!

you're slipping you racist hack cunt

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes, I don't parrot headlines

You're still a 1 track twat

[spoon]

why yes, how could I forget....Free thinker, defender of civil liberty, the constitution, free markets and rugged individualism.

sounds SOOO original

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How dare I not say high quality health care for all, Balanced approach , millionaires and billionaires, war on wonen and GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Spoon must be rubbing one out to me

[spoon]

Sure thing robbie schneider

[Syd]

OFA may end up blowing it's load. No organization is invincible.


Then again, the GOP leadership will find another way to fail in 2016

How will it fail? OFA is setup to succeed as long as there's a two party system.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Obama brand can be one factor. As much as he tries on his charm offensive, he will never be a Bill Clinton. He does not have that skill like Bill has.


There could be corruption within the organization, fraud, waste and abuse that comes out.


The GOP can find a way to beat OFA at their own game if they ever get some competent leadership and run a candidate who is somewhat coherent.

[Syd]

The GOP is approaching it to make money. There are competing organizations with no unified data. OFA is approached scientifically and most of the people involved with the actual sciencin' of voter turnout are people who aren't in it for the money.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I agree with you in reference to the GOP, They are running elections like it is still the 19th century.

OFA can be defeated, the NRA killed gun control. OFA pushed hard for that. The problem with the GOP is that they won't analyze how OFA was beat for that issue.

[Syd]

OFA is a voter turnout organization. It can be used to attempt to sway legislators but ultimately it's about how much it costs to buy each person during non-election years.

Individual donors no longer matter and once VRA is dismantled, voters no longer will matter in House seats. That's about the only thing going against OFA -- it isn't about fundraising.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im not discounting OFA. However their code can be cracked and they are not invincible.

[epo]

Im not discounting OFA. However their code can be cracked and they are not invincible.

OFA's handle on data is mind blowing.

The GOP should thank their lucky stars for gerrymandering keeping them relevant.

[A.J.]

OFA's handle on data is mind blowing.

The GOP should thank their lucky stars for gerrymandering keeping them relevant.

They learned it from watching the Democrats do it for so many years.

[epo]

They learned it from watching the Democrats do it for so many years.

I've long been a proponent of non-partisan redistricting.

The fascinating thing is that the Tea Party element that arrived in 2010 gave the GOP majorities to redistricting, have forced districts further from the center and yet that same element will lose them a national election every time.

It's a helluva conundrum Reince has on his hands.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

OFA's handle on data is mind blowing.

The GOP should thank their lucky stars for gerrymandering keeping them relevant.

It's not just their use of social media. They have behavioral therapists and data collection specialists that would make sabremetricians look prehistoric

The GOP can't do any better than Reince?

[epo]

It's not just their use of social media. They have behavioral therapists and data collection specialists that would make sabremetricians look prehistoric

The GOP can't do any better than Reince?

They can do things with data that you can't imagine.

Reince raises money, GOP likey.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Billy Beane should be GOP Chair

[hanso]

He was the "business pick" during the time of a recession.



Whites broke for Romney more sharply than they did for McCain in 2008



It was HRC's time, and Obama led part of the young DLC crowd against the traditional DLC vanguard. They revolutionized elections through Organizing for America and the Democrats aren't going to ever look back. The GOP is still in the stone age with competing information services led by for-profit companies. They'll never match OFA.

Why cant he see that the base is flawed? He just keeps ranting they picked the wrong one yet again.

[sailor]

Why cant he see that the base is flawed? He just keeps ranting they picked the wrong one yet again.

Two presidential elections is a flawed base?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Romney got less votes than McCain got

You can't say he wasn't flawed. He ran a worse campaign than Dole and McCain

[WRESTLINGFAN]

IRS apologizes tea party groups for the practice of extra scrutiny of their 501 (C) 4 status during 2012 election cycle.

[spoon]

Romney got less votes than McCain got

You can't say he wasn't flawed. He ran a worse campaign than Dole and McCain

flawed, of course

but also more distant from reality too

both equal players in his defeat

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I don't think the election would have been a landslide if Romney won but he blew a huge opportunity

The 47% was not a deal breaker, It did cause some damage , There were a series of events as well as his voter turnout strategy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fire dept dispatched to the West Wing this morning, 1st family not affected


Could be that one of the Choom gang forgot to put out his joint

[spoon]

could be

[epo]

I don't think the election would have been a landslide if Romney won but he blew a huge opportunity

The 47% was not a deal breaker, It did cause some damage , There were a series of events as well as his voter turnout strategy.

The 47% was the opening the Obama campaign needed to paint Romney for whom he truly is. End of story.

[spoon]

shitty story though

boo bedtime romney

[hanso]

Two presidential elections is a flawed base?

Not sure what this means, see what AJ posted. If you see it in frames of timeline this can all the way back to the heroic Reagan who would have a hard time even making a primary as of late.

The question should be why is he so still heavily heralded when the base has swung so much? More evidence that the base is severely flawed.

Here is a modern snap shot of the base.

Ted Cruz > Chris Christie

[Dude!]

epo needs to learn
the correct usage of
"whom"

he's sounding more like
Hanso every day

[sailor]

Not sure what this means, see what AJ posted. If you see it in frames of timeline this can all the way back to the heroic Reagan who would have a hard time even making a primary as of late.

The question should be why is he so still heavily heralded when the base has swung so much? More evidence that the base is severely flawed.

Here is a modern snap shot of the base.

Ted Cruz > Chris Christie

I've got aj blocked, so don't know what you mean.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That lap band surgery Christie got wasn't just so that he doesn't keel over.


That's for his 2016 campaign as well.

[Jujubees2]

That lap band surgery Christie got wasn't just so that he doesn't keel over.


That's for his 2016 campaign as well.

And it was probably on the public's dime too!

[Syd]

IRS apologizes tea party groups for the practice of extra scrutiny of their 501 (C) 4 status during 2012 election cycle.

There's a lot of scamming going on with the tea party groups, so it isn't necessarily a bad thing they're looking into them. There's some group out of Arizona that wants to build a monument for someone, long story short they're looking into $250k worth of donations for a $50k project. Also, the donations aren't even earmarked for the monument but rather the group itself.

The left isn't immune to it either, it just usually takes the place of autism awareness groups or something like that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just another reason to scrap the current tax laws and simplify them. Everybody pays. No more exemptions for religious institutions and other select groups

If Rabbi Cohen or Father O'Malley want to talk politics in their sermons , why not. As long as their specific religions are paying up

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama is pimping out HHS Sebelius to go to insurance companies and beg for money to promote Obamacare, Cabinet members are encouraged to peddle it also while not being subjected to it.


I can't wait for this to be another big government failure

[Syd]

How are they not subjected to it?

[keithy_19]

could be

:lol: