2013 Yankees offseason.

[jennysmurf]

Yankees fans are such creeps:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/yankee-fan-grope-woman-girlfriend-video.html

[SonOfSmeagol]

stealing second base :laugh:

at least it's in public and not "his place"

maybe not

[jennysmurf]

stealing second base :laugh:

at least it's in public and not "his place"

maybe not

The comments after the article were very entertaining. And no on will convince me that he was just "stroking her arm." He honked the boob.

[SonOfSmeagol]

The comments after the article were very entertaining. And no on will convince me that he was just "stroking her arm." He honked the boob.

the guy looks so determined, yet vacant

[spoon]

the guy looks so determined, yet vacant


Back to WF again are we?!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Joe Sheehan is insane


http://m.si.com/3266798/the-30-million-man/?comments=on#comments

[spoon]

"If Los Angeles, flush with cash, with motivated owners and, perhaps, having learned the lesson in 2013 that spending money on superstars works, could bid up Cano substantially. The Dodgers, far over the luxury-tax threshold, will be paying a premium on every dollar they offer Cano, but there’s little indication that’s a concern for their front office. The Yankees, in an ironic twist, may find themselves unable to match the spending of a team willing to blast through the tax threshold to put the best players on the field."

Ha! So hope they steal him and now the yanks will finally be on the other side of this coin! At least they will drive up the price for the spanks as you just know they were hoping for arod relief. It won't be long after that selig starts to warm up to the idea of a cap! U watch.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cano is not worth more than twice the amt Pedroia is getting.


Sheehans attempt to justify Canos numbers and link it to 30 million a year is pathetic at best.

[spoon]

Justify or just guessing at how the market and this contract will work out? I didn't see anyone say he's worth more than double pedroia, but i guess signing mid-season and a free agent bidding war are one in the same now.

[Snoogans]

"If Los Angeles, flush with cash, with motivated owners and, perhaps, having learned the lesson in 2013 that spending money on superstars works, could bid up Cano substantially. The Dodgers, far over the luxury-tax threshold, will be paying a premium on every dollar they offer Cano, but there’s little indication that’s a concern for their front office. The Yankees, in an ironic twist, may find themselves unable to match the spending of a team willing to blast through the tax threshold to put the best players on the field."

Ha! So hope they steal him and now the yanks will finally be on the other side of this coin! At least they will drive up the price for the spanks as you just know they were hoping for arod relief. It won't be long after that selig starts to warm up to the idea of a cap! U watch.

yea and give him 10 years and the Yankees end up luckin out the last 7 years of the deal. These fuckin dickheads always pull some shit out of their ass. Even if it goes wrong, it ends up right for the yankees

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bobby V steps in it trying to trash the Yankees



http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9662582/new-york-yankees-respond-bobby-valentine-accusation-9-11-response

[Kevin]

Bobby V steps in it trying to trash the Yankees



http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9662582/new-york-yankees-respond-bobby-valentine-accusation-9-11-response

Once again, WF bizarro 2 days old internet feed kicks in!

Do you ever get stories the day they actually happen?

I hear Putin said something to the NY Times, its about time it hit your feed!

[Kevin]

bah

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Date of ESPN article 9/12 via link I posted

It included his half apology and making false comments again.

Speaking of Putin now everyone's getting pissy because he mocked Murrrrican exceptionalism

[A.J.]

Putin is still better than Steinbrenner.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Lzpk5dMhVE4/hqdefault.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Putin should try to steal a WS ring

[cougarjake13]

he will when John Henry visits

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Boston massacres Yanks again

[spoon]

Boston massacres Yanks again

but fucking Texas SUCKS right now and they lose no ground...AGAIN

at least Toronto lost the series to Baltimore to get them back in front of NYY along with Cleveland...come on KC, pass them out too

Toronto BETTER FUCKING STEP UP this week and take the series at home versus the NY Debils

[A.J.]

I thought it was a cool pre-game ceremony for Mo. The Monster scoreboard "42" sign was especially nice.

[hanso]

You guys have to win 10/13....maybe 11/12 now? Yeah good luck with that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

3.5 games behind. Cleveland is hot. O's still in there, going to be difficult for Yanks

[spoon]

Saved all the wins against the yanks for the last two series just to give no playoffs to Mo as Toronto's gift. Love it!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Most likely no postseason for Mo but he's retiring at the top of his game. Not sure if Jeter will go out the same way if he sticks around too long

[spoon]

Most likely no postseason for Mo but he's retiring at the top of his game. Not sure if Jeter will go out the same way if he sticks around too long

already too late

[spoon]

season over

welcome to golf old men

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Joba and Hughes wont be back. That's a start


Season isn't over but there are early rumors for Cano. Chicago and Philly.

[spoon]

yanks without Cano will SUUUUUUUCK!

so yah, I hope they save money too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Pettitte hanging up the spikes

[A.J.]

Again?

[Jujubees2]

Pettitte hanging up the spikes

Again?

I heard Sugar Ray Leonard is also retiring...

[spoon]

Again?

this time hgh free spikes though...maybe

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Rivera Bobblehead night off to a bad start

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1786351-mariano-rivera-bobblehead-night-a-disaster-as-yankees-never-receive-shipment

BR updated that they are on the way

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I guess we can change this to 2013 Yankees offseason thread in a few days.

Yanks out of postseason.

[cougarjake13]

with all the injuries they had it's amazing that they were still n contention

[A.J.]

with all the injuries they had it's amazing that they were still n contention

One of the reasons Girardi should at least be considered for manager of the year.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Buster Olney tweeted Cano is seeking 10 and 305.

[spoon]

One of the reasons Girardi should at least be considered for manager of the year.

sorry, it's not amazing to keep a team in the wild card race with a 200+ million dollar payroll that has injuries to make it a normal team, which then goes out and signs or acquires other expensive/vet players to keep it in contention longer...I know Ichiro was last year, but he fits the Well, Overbay, Wilson (D specialist), Youk (then injured too), Soriano, Reynolds and more

sure it's more impressive than the norm in NY, but fuck him for manager of the year

TB's guy deserves it almost every year

no fans, no money and loses players every fucking year

unreal manager

[A.J.]

sorry, it's not amazing to keep a team in the wild card race with a 200+ million dollar payroll that has injuries to make it a normal team, which then goes out and signs or acquires other expensive/vet players to keep it in contention longer...I know Ichiro was last year, but he fits the Well, Overbay, Wilson (D specialist), Youk (then injured too), Soriano, Reynolds and more

sure it's more impressive than the norm in NY, but fuck him for manager of the year

TB's guy deserves it almost every year

no fans, no money and loses players every fucking year

unreal manager

Fair enough.

And I'll give you Madden though I despise TB for the reasons you mentioned.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Tito should be in the discussion. No playoffs since 07 and Cleveland is in the mix this year.

I posted about Farrell in the Boston thread as well. Granted that they have a big payroll but 90+ losses last year and AL East champs this year is a hell of a turnaround

[spoon]

Pretty cool actually. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rivera-may-1st-outfield-appearance-202454937--mlb.html)

[hanso]

Buster Olney tweeted Cano is seeking 10 and 305.

It should be 200. Jay-z is gonna cost him his place on the team.

[A.J.]

Pretty cool actually. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rivera-may-1st-outfield-appearance-202454937--mlb.html)

Agreed. I read a cool suggestion some dude made about this: if the Yanks are winning (and they should since the Stros suck), let Mo play CF for the bottom of the 8th and then close in the 9th.

[A.J.]

And a nice touch last night when Pettitte and Jeter "pulled" Mo in the 9th. It was a cool historic moment.

Oh, I should say that Todd Helton's farewell in Colorado against the Sox the other night was pretty sweet too.

Sad to see two of the game's good guys go. Man, I'm getting old.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It should be 200. Jay-z is gonna cost him his place on the team.



10 year contracts for players more than 30 are an albatross. He's 20 million a year at best. Anything over 7 years is insane

[sailor]

Agreed. I read a cool suggestion some dude made about this: if the Yanks are winning (and they should since the Stros suck), let Mo play CF for the bottom of the 8th and then close in the 9th.

They actually said that's sort of the plan in the article.

[Misteriosa]

And a nice touch last night when Pettitte and Jeter "pulled" Mo in the 9th. It was a cool historic moment.

Oh, I should say that Todd Helton's farewell in Colorado against the Sox the other night was pretty sweet too.

Sad to see two of the game's good guys go. Man, I'm getting old.

that had me crying like a little girl. :glurps:

[spoon]

that had me crying like a little girl. :glurps:

GOOD RIDDANCE!

[A.J.]

GOOD RIDDANCE!

I hope Mo had the time of his life.

[spoon]

boooo

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[Kevin]

I hope Mo had the time of his life.

He has never felt this way before

[Kevin]

sorry, it's not amazing to keep a team in the wild card race with a 200+ million dollar payroll that has injuries to make it a normal team, which then goes out and signs or acquires other expensive/vet players to keep it in contention longer...I know Ichiro was last year, but he fits the Well, Overbay, Wilson (D specialist), Youk (then injured too), Soriano, Reynolds and more

sure it's more impressive than the norm in NY, but fuck him for manager of the year

TB's guy deserves it almost every year

no fans, no money and loses players every fucking year

unreal manager

Although I agree with your Madden assessment.

He also showed a ton of class by allowing Andy and Jeter to go out and pull Mo.

Its not Girardi's fault that cashman gave out huge contracts to guys and they got hurt or got old.

Joe's job is to manage what he has. And this year, he had SHIT! He is not a GM.

But if Madden gets it, he deserves it.

[spoon]

I've always stood by girardi being a good manager, but not over madden thus year. Go me he's usually in a bad spot by simply being the yank manager where you usually have the highest payroll, best players and unlimited money and moves. Yet girardi proved himself in Florida before even getting to ny...yet he is a bitch constantly crying about people stealing signs when he loses. You do it too joe, and the man in white thing is HILARIOUS!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Talk heating up about Girardi managing the Cubs. His contract expires and Sveum could be fired

[hanso]

Talk heating up about Girardi managing the Cubs. His contract expires and Sveum could be fired

Good time to fly the coop with what could be a high player turn over.

[Kevin]

The Cubs are years away from being contenders. But so are the Yankees... But they are the Cubs.. It all depends on if he wants less pressure.

[cougarjake13]

The Cubs are years away from being contenders. But so are the Yankees... But they are the Cubs.. It all depends on if he wants less pressure.



and he played there so maybe he wants to go back

[Kevin]

Complete game in your home town and you beat a Clemens to do it..

Pretty good way to go out..

Only pitcher to pitch at least 15yrs and never have a losing record...

Sure he had pretty damn good teams backing him up, but its still a good stat.

[Kevin]

and he played there so maybe he wants to go back

He had a chance to do it before but stayed.

We will see.

[spoon]

Complete game in your home town and you beat a Clemens to do it..

Pretty good way to go out..

Only pitcher to pitch at least 15yrs and never have a losing record...

Sure he had pretty damn good teams backing him up, but its still a good stat.

I'm sure the HGH helped...and some of Clemens's supply probably. Oh wait, that was his dad's and just bc his knew was barking. RIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTT!

[Kevin]

I'm sure the HGH helped...and some of Clemens's supply probably. Oh wait, that was his dad's and just bc his knew was barking. RIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTT!

Come on man.. He only took it that one day for his injury..

[spoon]

Come on man.. He only took it that one day for his injury..


just like Greg Zaun and Shawn Merriman and just about EVERY FUCKING PERSON ever caught

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Girardi back 4 year deal. 16mm


I heard that Granderson is a hot commodity for the White Sox

[zildjian361]

cool cant believe Managers only make 4 mil. Cano wants 30 mill. who's in charge here.:happy:

[Kevin]

Girardi back 4 year deal. 16mm


I heard that Granderson is a hot commodity for the White Sox

Good, The Wsox seem to love shitty ex Yankees.

I'd give him Arbitration, If he takes it, cool for a year. If not, let those idiots give us the draft pick, who we will end up picking poorly on.

[cougarjake13]

Good, The Wsox seem to love shitty ex Yankees.

I'd give him Arbitration, If he takes it, cool for a year. If not, let those idiots give us the draft pick, who we will end up picking poorly on.


or pick good and then trade

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yankee brass are meeting Monday to discuss moves for 2014. They want to get under that 189 million dollar threshold.

Among the Cano issue, they are looking at a Japanese pitcher who went 24-0 this year, however the posting fee is in excess of 50 million. Theres also talk going around by signing Beltran.

Pettitte and Rivera are gone and Jeter will be making 9 million next year and more money can come off depending on how long A Rods suspension is if it is upheld. If not and he plays a full year he's also getting a bonus for passing Mays on the all time HR list. Not sure if that counts to the luxury tax though.

[cougarjake13]

well I'd think that since it's a bonus and not part of his salary then it wouldn't be

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can the thread be renamed 2013-14 Yankees off season ?

There's talk about Beltran coming back to NY to play for the Yankees.

[spoon]

Is he old enough!?

I was thinking more along the lines of pat cooper and dspy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He will be 37 next year so according to Cashman that's his prime

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yanks sign Jeter to 1 year 12 million dollar deal.


Is Cashman fucking insane?

[Kevin]

Must be good to be out all year and get a 3mil raise.

[spoon]

Jeter helps hook up cash with side tail sillies ... the grenades of the hot poa's Jeter lands.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Gym Tanning Luxury tax

[Kevin]

Gym Tanning Luxury tax

Its a W bomb, from Wrestlingfan!

[newport king]

I was talking with a dude at work and he was pumped about Jeter being resigned. His rationale was "hes a yankee though". Like 12MM ismoney well spent.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Francesa was eluding to that Jeter brings season ticket holders back for 2014. His Player option was for 9.5 million, What was the reasoning for giving him 12? I didn't see any reports that Jeter declined his option.

Cashman sucks

[spoon]

while he has some effect on attendance, it most surely only works when he actually plays

might need some of Arod's fountain of youth clinics

[A.J.]

It's got to be his golden parachute. I think he'll do what Mo did and announce during spring training that this is his last season so he can get the same farewell. He's 39 (going to be 40) with a bum ankle and he expects to play nearly full-time at SS?

[Section 8]

Seriously thinking this would be Jeter's last season. He's deteriorating. He won't have the speed, nor the range, to make him an effective everyday SS. I see him DH'ing more often than not.

[spoon]

ok, he NEVER had the range and would be the WORST DH in the league if so

[Section 8]

ok, he NEVER had the range and would be the WORST DH in the league if so
He had SOME range, not a great range. With this injury, he'd be lucky to get to a ball 3 steps away in any direction.

DH's don't need to hit for power. They just need to hit. Jeter is still a .300 hitter. Put Jeter farther down in the order and let him drive in some runs.

[cougarjake13]

if not for tex I culd see him playing first

[spoon]

Jeter at dh or first are BOTH terrible sorry.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Even if Jeter plays some SS and A Rods suspension is minimal or struck down the Yankees might have the oldest infield in history. Tex will be 34 next year

[spoon]

Even if Jeter plays some SS and A Rods suspension is minimal or struck down the Yankees might have the oldest infield in history. Tex will be 34 next year

Tex is the keithy to Jeter's dspy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Mighty expensive watch. Jay Z being investigated by Players association

http://mweb.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24192147/report-jay-z-investigated-by-mlbpa-for-gift-to-robinson-cano

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cano is still holding a hard line for his demands of 10 and 300+

[cougarjake13]

nvr gonna get it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the Dodgers wouldn't even give him that amount

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cano's camp had a meeting with Mets brass last night. Yankees stated that his 300 million demand is a no go, he's going to have to come down

[spoon]

Can't argue against the hank stand that both 300 million and 10 years are lines in 2013 not to be crossed. Yet the yanks have their history and wallet as a slap to Cano's face after years of great service. Odd too how they seem to feel the need to put the guy's popularity compared to legends (jeter/mo) and traveling circuses (arod) out there to drive the price down. It's about skills, and he's by far a great second baseman. Hope he goes elsewhere at a discount and says he would have done the same for nyy but for the bullshit they always pull when negotiations come up. Jeter has enough range at 50 to cover both spots, so no need to worry.

[A.J.]

Can't argue against the hank stand that both 300 million and 10 years are lines in 2013 not to be crossed. Yet the yanks have their history and wallet as a slap to Cano's face after years of great service. Odd too how they seem to feel the need to put the guy's popularity compared to legends (jeter/mo) and traveling circuses (arod) out there to drive the price down. It's about skills, and he's by far a great second baseman. Hope he goes elsewhere at a discount and says he would have done the same for nyy but for the bullshit they always pull when negotiations come up. Jeter has enough range at 50 to cover both spots, so no need to worry.

Cano at least has to acknowledge that the Yanks need to rebuild and a contract of that size would hurt them in the long run. The question is does he want to get paid and play with a bunch of baseball geriatrics, or will he suck it up so the Yanks can rebuild around him?

Yankee fans should hope he makes a move like Cutch did in Pittsburgh.

[spoon]

Well to me that rebuild stance and that the yanks have any money issues with or without him signing is disingenuous. They will surely sign someone soon enough to a huge contract, they just want a discount here. Cano knkws that and is saying it isn't starting with me. For fuck's sake, JETER just got a fucking raise after last year for what?! But Cano needs to take the hit? Uh huh.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That Jeter 1 year deal was stupid on the part of Cashman. I'm not defending it at all but its Jeter and the front office thinks he deserved that raise. Plus he's the last from the glory days of the 90s. It's more sentimental ass kissing

I'm sure the Yankees are feeling the Sting of the A Rod contract and looking at how Pujols isn't the player he was and knowing he's got 8 years left on that deal.

Yanks would be more than fair if they offered Cano 7 years averaging 20-25 mill per

[Kevin]

I can't wait til Cano finds out what Rickey Williams did years ago..

You don't let stupid rappers negotiate your contracts...


10 for 300 70 guaranteed. Good luck Cano.

[spoon]

he's going to get a shit load no matter what

and setting the bar high is NOT a bad strategy, we all know you're only pissed bc he isn't just bowing down and signing for whatever the spanks want him to for

it's his LAST big contract so what do you expect

this is how the system works…are you suggesting that maybe, just maybe a cap is in order?

bc I'm sorry, IF the yanks can't keep him I hope you don't expect sympathy from ANY other team fans…this will LITERALLY be the first player of substance you'd lose not completely willingly.

[Kevin]

he's going to get a shit load no matter what

and setting the bar high is NOT a bad strategy, we all know you're only pissed bc he isn't just bowing down and signing for whatever the spanks want him to for

it's his LAST big contract so what do you expect

this is how the system works…are you suggesting that maybe, just maybe a cap is in order?

bc I'm sorry, IF the yanks can't keep him I hope you don't expect sympathy from ANY other team fans…this will LITERALLY be the first player of substance you'd lose not completely willingly.

Im not pissed about shit.

Jay Z proved he is an idiot by thinking that going to the METS would scare the Yankees?

Those same Mets that just said they will not sign anyone to a 100mil contract?

Thats comical.

Boris knew the ins and outs and knows how to play the game.

Jay Z will get absolutely roasted when it comes down to talking money.

There is a line between wanting good money as your final big one, and just asking for a stupid amount.

The Boris Jay Z Switch will cost Cano at least 75mil.

[Kevin]

They first have to get through that huge hurdle that the Redsox and Padrioa put in front of them. Is he worth 110 mil more than he is?

The answer is no.

If the Dodgers don't get in it, where is your market? Certainly not the Mets.

Im not signing a 31yr old 2b who loafs around and the bulk of his numbers ccome from a joke of a park.

if I know these things the Yankees and others will also.

So going around asking for 310 just shows how lost and clueless both Cano and Jay Z are.

Stick to rapping.

[newport king]

Lets just stop this bullshit idea that JayZ is an agent. He didnt own the Nets either.

[foodcourtdruide]

They first have to get through that huge hurdle that the Redsox and Padrioa put in front of them. Is he worth 110 mil more than he is?

The answer is no.

If the Dodgers don't get in it, where is your market? Certainly not the Mets.

Im not signing a 31yr old 2b who loafs around and the bulk of his numbers ccome from a joke of a park.

if I know these things the Yankees and others will also.

So going around asking for 310 just shows how lost and clueless both Cano and Jay Z are.

Stick to rapping.

It makes Cano look dumb, but who cares? In the end he just wants as much money as possible. My guess is this ends with Cano to the Yankees for 7 years at $26m per year.

[spoon]

It makes Cano look dumb, but who cares? In the end he just wants as much money as possible. My guess is this ends with Cano to the Yankees for 7 years at $26m per year.

15 years at 45 million per if I know the yankee's way of "dealing"


:wacko:

[spoon]

Lets just stop this bullshit idea that JayZ is an agent. He didnt own the Nets either.

yep, he's the FIGUREHEAD with actual power, but smart enough to let others in said field take the lead. he's surely the face and light to the moth that is the hip hop/entertainment loving sports world figures. and look, it worked already

[newport king]

Master P represented Ricky Willams too.

[Kevin]

Master P represented Ricky Willams too.

Have your rookie contract destroyed with Master P Nut

[Jujubees2]

It makes Cano look dumb, but who cares? In the end he just wants as much money as possible. My guess is this ends with Cano to the Yankees for 7 years at $26m per year.

And with an opt out after two years and then the Yankees will then resign him for ten years at $30m per.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Also known as the CC strategy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yankees and Brian McCann close to a 5 year 80mm deal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Done deal

[Kevin]

Oh God, I cant imagine what sterlings hr call will be. Who can do it? BRIAN MCCANN!

[sailor]

Yankees and Brian McCann close to a 5 year 80mm deal

5/85

[newport king]

This is what infuriates me as a Yankee hater.

McCann is ok. OK. Not 17MM per for the next 5yrs. He'll be 30 and hit .300 once in his life. But hey its not like catchers break down or anything.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cashman continues the madness

[spoon]

Yankees and Brian McCann close to a 5 year 80mm deal

Done deal


and so it continues

blech! :dry:

get a fucking cap mlb, this is just stupid


payroll reduction via a Jeter raise, huge upgrade at catcher and more soon enough

fucking league

hope he hits .100 and fights with Jeter and Cano…when they sign him too

[spoon]

This is what infuriates me as a Yankee hater.

McCann is ok. OK. Not 17MM per for the next 5yrs. He'll be 30 and hit .300 once in his life. But hey its not like catchers break down or anything.

A solid catcher is worth their weight in GOLD, and this guy is easily the best on the market and a HUGE upgrade.

[Kevin]

Yea....

Like that big FA they signed last off season.. Oh wait... no...

2011???... Oh... Nope not then either...

The 2010? No..

So 4 years?

And Angel's Dodgers Redsox, Tigers have spent how much?

BAH! Fucking Yankees...

[Snoogans]

This is what infuriates me as a Yankee hater.

McCann is ok. OK. Not 17MM per for the next 5yrs. He'll be 30 and hit .300 once in his life. But hey its not like catchers break down or anything.

well, i would guess he is going to DH alot and play 1B whenever Tex gets hurt again

[spoon]

sure thing kev…the mere fact that they were too high for even the spanks to logically go after Pujols, Hamilton and let's all forget how the Dodgers traded for a LOT of their guys too. But remind me, who was STILL the top paid team in the league last year despite all the bullshit you just wrote? What team has 4 of the top 6 individual salaries in the MLB? Only double the Jays salary AFTER a pretty fucking active year or two from the jays. See how much the yanks have been out there? Do you see how 5-10 year contracts that are huge for huge guys aren't only impactful to the year they are signed? Of course not, you're an idiot.

And let's move on from your stupid point insinuating the yanks don't make free agent signings too, bc they paid more for 2nd and 3rd level replacement players than some teams pay for first line starters. The only reason nobody takes as much note is bc most were fitting of the recent yank mold, old and not as flashy, but vets with enough know how to fill in admirably. I guess it's just odd for you that someone else has made moves and a team dared get within 15 million of their payroll, down from ~ 25 million gap the prior year. But yah, poor yanks, they never sign anyone and haven't led the league in for, well forever in salary. Good news for everyone else, the yanks only win when the gap is almost 60 million between them and the second place team.

And again, Go Dodgers right!? :lol:

[Snoogans]

sure thing kev…the mere fact that they were too high for even the spanks to logically go after Pujols, Hamilton and let's all forget how the Dodgers traded for a LOT of their guys too. But remind me, who was STILL the top paid team in the league last year despite all the bullshit you just wrote? What team has 4 of the top 6 individual salaries in the MLB? Only double the Jays salary AFTER a pretty fucking active year or two from the jays. See how much the yanks have been out there? Do you see how 5-10 year contracts that are huge for huge guys aren't only impactful to the year they are signed? Of course not, you're an idiot.

And let's move on from your stupid point insinuating the yanks don't make free agent signings too, bc they paid more for 2nd and 3rd level replacement players than some teams pay for first line starters. The only reason nobody takes as much note is bc most were fitting of the recent yank mold, old and not as flashy, but vets with enough know how to fill in admirably. I guess it's just odd for you that someone else has made moves and a team dared get within 15 million of their payroll, down from ~ 25 million gap the prior year. But yah, poor yanks, they never sign anyone and haven't led the league in for, well forever in salary. Good news for everyone else, the yanks only win when the gap is almost 60 million between them and the second place team.

And again, Go Dodgers right!? :lol:

the dodgers actually had the highest payroll in MLB last year

[spoon]

New York Yankees $228,995,945
Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
Philadelphia $159,578,214
Boston $158,967,286
Detroit $149,046,844
San Francisco $142,180,333
Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250
Texas $127,197,575

[spoon]

I sense 2008 offseason all over again for the spanks…part of the 5 year reload/pillage the league plan.

[A.J.]

When MLB voids ARod's contract, the Yanks will have a lot more money to restock that farm system!

[spoon]

When MLB voids ARod's contract, the Yanks will have a lot more money to restock that farm system!

sadly true, but I think you mean restock the main team

[Snoogans]

New York Yankees $228,995,945
Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
Philadelphia $159,578,214
Boston $158,967,286
Detroit $149,046,844
San Francisco $142,180,333
Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250
Texas $127,197,575

i dont know where you found that from, but according to when I looked at the end of last year, dodgers were up to 236. You might have the opening day pay rolls maybe, i dont know

[Section 8]

Found this list from ESPN (could be from end of season, but I know it's not opening day payroll):

1 Los Angeles Dodgers 220,395,196
2 New York Yankees 203,445,586
3 Philadelphia Phillies 170,760,689
4 Detroit Tigers 148,414,500
5 Boston Red Sox 140,657,500
6 San Francisco Giants 136,042,112
7 Los Angeles Angels 127,896,250
8 Chicago White Sox 119,573,277
9 Toronto Blue Jays 117,035,100
10 Washington Nationals 114,194,270

[WRESTLINGFAN]

According to Bleacher report. Yankees made offers to Choo, Ellsbury and Infante

[NickyL0885]

According to Bleacher report. Yankees made offers to Choo, Ellsbury and Infante

Yanks close to a 7 year deal for Ellsbury as per Heyman. Would exceed Crawfords $142 million deal.

[newport king]

Jesus Christ. 7 years?? Hes injured alot now. Im sure thatll get better in his 30s

[NickyL0885]

As per Ken Rosenthal: "Source confirms: #Yankees in agreement with Ellsbury, seven years, $153 million, pending physical."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Done deal

[Kevin]

7 yrs for one good healthy year.. seems good to me

[Kevin]

Of course here comes the how terrible Jacoby Elsbury is, from Boston. I hear he did steroids, the only one on the team!

[OGC]

Of course here comes the how terrible Jacoby Elsbury is, from Boston. I hear he did steroids, the only one on the team!

not at all. he didn't do steroids when he was with the red Sox which is why he took so long to heal from those minor injuries. he'll be much healthier now that the yankees will be supplying him with the juice.


















Damn. I was hoping that the Sox would find a way to re-sign him, but for that much and that long it just wasn't going to happen. I'll miss him.



p.s. The Sox will put your compensation pick to better use than you would have.

[Kevin]

not at all. he didn't do steroids when he was with the red Sox which is why he took so long to heal from those minor injuries. he'll be much healthier now that the yankees will be supplying him with the juice.

















Damn. I was hoping that the Sox would find a way to re-sign him, but for that much and that long it just wasn't going to happen. I'll miss him.


Hopefully he can give us the guy you use. His shit is undetectable.

[joeyballsack]

The Sox just lost a great player.

I was hoping they would bring him back.

[Kevin]

Angry, Dumb Red Sox Fans Call Jacoby Ellsbury A "Trader" (http://deadspin.com/angry-dumb-red-sox-fans-call-jacoby-ellsbury-a-trader-1476102468?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebo ok&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)


Indians are terrible traders, everyone knows that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Any Traitor Joes stores in Boston?

[spoon]

Any Traitor Joes stores in Boston?

man you just suck

[spoon]

I sense 2008 offseason all over again for the spanks…part of the 5 year reload/pillage the league plan.

as so it continues

who drops next?

[A.J.]

Angry, Dumb Red Sox Fans Call Jacoby Ellsbury A "Trader" (http://deadspin.com/angry-dumb-red-sox-fans-call-jacoby-ellsbury-a-trader-1476102468?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebo ok&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)


Indians are terrible traders, everyone knows that.

Yep -- exactly what happened when Johnny Damon left. I called this as soon as the deal was announced.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQglKUguNt6NQGGPuTOgY2fGhkXIA3p BUrZJATYI3wpvrJzucYZg

Ells got his payday. No hard feelings from me. And these Sox "fans" can go jerk off to Sweet Caroline to console themselves.

[spoon]

that's an odd jerk choice

[A.J.]

Not if you're a pedophile.

[spoon]

is dspy considered a pedophile if he dates a 50 year old?

[hanso]

Pilfering a player from a rival team is always a good move.

[Section 8]

Looks like the Yankees are looking for a cheap 2nd baseman or at least a "solid" (their words, not mine) utility player. They are currently close to a deal with Kelly Johnson.

[cougarjake13]

Cano's gonna lose a huge bargaining chip if the yanks are off the table

[spoon]

bc of Johnson!

ha!

[hanso]

Looks like the Yankees are looking for a cheap 2nd baseman or at least a "solid" (their words, not mine) utility player. They are currently close to a deal with Kelly Johnson.

That would be a good move on their part. Because of that I don't see them doing it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cano enroute to Seattle to meet with Mariners


http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/05/robinson-cano-mariners-contract-offer-yankees-free-agency/?eref=sihp

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Kuroda back for 1 year deal

Haven't heard much on Pineda if he will ever pitch. Not too many free agent pitchers out there
Maybe they should look at Garza and Zito

[spoon]

I can't wait til Cano finds out what Rickey Williams did years ago..

You don't let stupid rappers negotiate your contracts...


10 for 300 70 guaranteed. Good luck Cano.

Cano don'tchaknow!

Looks like he CRUSHED the yankee offer and the milkman had his rapper agent deliver. But you know, nobody was seriously looking at him outside the yanks. Ha!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Already there are rumors and unnamed sources saying Cano didn't like batting 2nd and playing for Girardi.
While that might or might not be true Cano went there for the money

I remember when Mike Hampton signed that big contract with Colorado he said because of the school system
Almost always it's about money. Cash is king

[spoon]

Simply, the Yankees believe, not even their fan base can blame them for passing on Cano, not at that pricetag.

They're already seeing first-hand how 10-year contracts can destruct a payroll with $86 million remaining on Rodriguez's 10-year, $275 million deal.

they're seeing WHAT first-hand? what a hack writer

where are the spanks feeling the burn that is the Arod contract? that they lost Cano and didn't spend 500 million in one offseason…which they may very well still get close to (Infante/Choo, the Japanese kid Tanaka if he posts and all the little pieces at scrap millions that most teams start (Kelly Johnson)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yankees to pay Luxury tax of 28 million

[Kevin]

500 mil buys a lot of vacation homes for billionaire owners

[hanso]

Looks like the Yankees are looking for a cheap 2nd baseman or at least a "solid" (their words, not mine) utility player. They are currently close to a deal with Kelly Johnson.

That would be a good move on their part. Because of that I don't see them doing it.

No they went for the 2b that played almost 200 games in 4 years and is 36 yo

[spoon]

It's the roid/age combo they just can't pass up

And yah, both type roids.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is the Beltran deal finalized yet? Haven't heard anything more about it. I would assume no press conference/media day since its only a 3 yr deal

[Kevin]

Is the Beltran deal finalized yet? Haven't heard anything more about it. I would assume no press conference/media day since its only a 3 yr deal

Come on, Its the Yankees.

OF COURSE THERE WILL BE A PRESS CONFERENCE!

[cougarjake13]

Finalized yesterday

[A.J.]

This season is going to be like watching the Yankees Old-Timers Game.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They're the Lakers of MLB

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Anyone want Vernon Wells? Yanks just cut him

[A.J.]

Anyone want Vernon Wells? Yanks just cut him

Why? Too young?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why? Too young?

:thumbup:

[cougarjake13]

Anyone want Vernon Wells? Yanks just cut him



Spoon wants him back

[epo]

Anyone want Vernon Wells? Yanks just cut him

I literally forgot that he was still playing.

[Snoogans]

So ARod ends up suspended for 162 games. Being he had never been suspended before, Im still at a loss as to why he got more than 50 games.

Anyway, everyone is sure ARod is gonna take it to court and I think he should. He just got railroaded

[spoon]

Spoon wants him back

nope

[spoon]

So ARod ends up suspended for 162 games. Being he had never been suspended before, Im still at a loss as to why he got more than 50 games.

Anyway, everyone is sure ARod is gonna take it to court and I think he should. He just got railroaded

I'm torn, as the league DOES have the right to judge things differently when it's a special case, which this is…it's in the CBA, but a full season on what amounts to not even the first failed test under it? I have to say he'll win too, but now they get to claim only one year after ties what, 3-4 times to steroids? I think it'll end up MORE than 50 no matter what, unless Arod makes this his life's work and spends way more money than he would have lost this year.

in conclusion, Arod AND MLB/Selig are assholes

[Snoogans]

I'm torn, as the league DOES have the right to judge things differently when it's a special case, which this is…it's in the CBA, but a full season on what amounts to not even the first failed test under it? I have to say he'll win too, but now they get to claim only one year after ties what, 3-4 times to steroids? I think it'll end up MORE than 50 no matter what, unless Arod makes this his life's work and spends way more money than he would have lost this year.

in conclusion, Arod AND MLB/Selig are assholes

ok but also, everyone who ever was suspended or caught and not suspended cause of rules or whatever, for doing PEDs, none of them did it only once. Aside from andy pettite of course.

Just because a guy did something and got away with it before shouldnt matter, cause everyone who got caught got away with it before. We just might not have found out.
Not to mention ARod didnt do anything in trying to defend his case that the MLB didnt do trying to make it. I just dont see what justifies a longer suspension that what a guy would get for testing positive TWICE

[cougarjake13]

Did they say in the ruling whether or not they had the evidence he was tampering ? Cause I know that was brought up before and none of the others were accused or found to be tampering so maybe that's where the extra time comes from

[spoon]

don't disagree shaun, just saying they technically reserve the right as per the CBA to go beyond limits set if they feel it's needed or warranted

don't think I'm defending the league of all leagues that I hate how it's run the most, i am not, just facts as I know them

as udog said, fuck them all

yet I sure as hell don't think this should end up helping a team like NY that threw that money at him

decided JUST in time to help beef up their bid on Tanaka right?! FUck you MLB

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Tanaka signs.

7 years with opt out after 4 according to preliminary reports

[A.J.]

Yeah, that should keep them under the luxury tax threshold.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I am shocked they signed him.

He's not 35

[A.J.]

I am shocked they signed him.

He's not 35

He's a Japanese starting pitcher; he might as well be 35.

[Section 8]

As long as this guy doesn't turn into another Hideki Irabu... Or Kei Igawa... Or...

[spoon]

Another missed playoff, so first they get arod off the books for a year in violation of the cba and signed already 500 million worth of fre agents...AGAIN! But yah kev, not every year though right, just long term contracts to huge names every few to retool. Mlb sucks, and selig winning an award named after him sums it all up.

[spoon]

As long as this guy doesn't turn into another Hideki Irabu... Or Kei Igawa... Or...


I hope soooo much this guy is worse than igawa.

Would love it!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They can commute together back and forth to Scranton

[A.J.]

Hey, if Tanaka doesn't work out the Yankees can always go to their farm system.

Oh.......right.

[Kevin]

Hey, if Tanaka doesn't work out the Yankees can always go to their farm system.

Oh.......right.

They could ask Spoon's boy Bud to look the other way while doing a shit loAd of roids.

[Kevin]

Shocking. First time in 5 years Yankees spend money,and all of a sudden baseball has a money problem again. Not when the Dodgers spend like drunken sailors, or the Sox spending on Crawford Lackey Agon. Or Angels Pujols Hamilton Wilson. Or Tigers Fielder Miggy and others.LAWD Forbid these "have not billionaire owners" spend some money, build a brand and get TV contracts and revenue. Let's all watch them take the millions they get from revenue sharing and Luxury tax money and buy vacation homes or cool supercars. . That's a much better idea. Damn these Yankees putting their money back into the business. I mean no other business ever does that.

[sailor]

Hey!

[Kevin]

Hey!

We all know you're a very cheap drunk

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yankees looking at Drew


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/01/24/heyman-yankees-considering-signing-free-agent-ss-stephen-drew/

[spoon]

Shocking. First time in 5 years Yankees spend money,and all of a sudden baseball has a money problem again. Not when the Dodgers spend like drunken sailors, or the Sox spending on Crawford Lackey Agon. Or Angels Pujols Hamilton Wilson. Or Tigers Fielder Miggy and others.LAWD Forbid these "have not billionaire owners" spend some money, build a brand and get TV contracts and revenue. Let's all watch them take the millions they get from revenue sharing and Luxury tax money and buy vacation homes or cool supercars. . That's a much better idea. Damn these Yankees putting their money back into the business. I mean no other business ever does that.

ok, this fallacy has been drug through the mud way too much to rehash just how wrong and stupid you are for even trying it…so enjoy this

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/bzItVYqw6kQ?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[A.J.]

I see Tanaka has already inherited Cashman's love of throwing lots of money around. (http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2014/02/10/masahiro-tanaka-new-york-yankees/?hpt=hp_c3)

He's a True Yankee!

[cougarjake13]

I see Tanaka has already inherited Cashman's love of throwing lots of money around. (http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2014/02/10/masahiro-tanaka-new-york-yankees/?hpt=hp_c3)

He's a True Yankee!





I seriously thought this was a spoon post til I looked again

[A.J.]

I wanted to be a shock poster for a change!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see Tanaka has already inherited Cashman's love of throwing lots of money around. (http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2014/02/10/masahiro-tanaka-new-york-yankees/?hpt=hp_c3)

He's a True Yankee!

Kind of, but he's not over 35

[WRESTLINGFAN]

According to Pineda, He's ready to pitch


http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24438878/two-years-after-trade-michael-pineda-finally-ready-to-help-yankees

[A.J.]

Kind of, but he's not over 35

For all the innings he's thrown in Japan, he may as well be.

[spoon]

I wanted to be a shock poster for a change!

:thumbdown:

[A.J.]

I wanted to be a shock poster for a change!

:thumbdown:

I learned it from watching YOU!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

2014 Will be Jeter's final season

[A.J.]

Yanks sign Jeter to 1 year 12 million dollar deal.


Is Cashman fucking insane?

It's got to be his golden parachute. I think he'll do what Mo did and announce during spring training that this is his last season so he can get the same farewell. He's 39 (going to be 40) with a bum ankle and he expects to play nearly full-time at SS?

I called it.

[sailor]

I called it.

THIS IS SPRING?!

[A.J.]

Eh, players have already arrived at spring training, Literal McLiteralson.

[spoon]

Yah, that's my issue! Back off my turf you saux slut! ; )

[spoon]

I called it.



Not a tough call.

[A.J.]

Not a tough call.

Thanks for killing my buzz. :glurps:

[spoon]

Thanks for killing my buzz. :glurps:


Ha! Payback for stealing my schtick!

Yet come on an, jeter needs his arrogant retirement tour all yankee assholes surely deserve. Every team should give him a plaster cast of the nicest tail he hit when on he road in their cities as their bon voyage gift.

[A.J.]

Ha! Payback for stealing my schtick!

Yet come on an, jeter needs his arrogant retirement tour all yankee assholes surely deserve. Every team should give him a plaster cast of the nicest tail he hit when on he road in their cities as their bon voyage gift.

I think every team should give him a gift basket just like he gives to said tail that he has hit.

[cougarjake13]

Well so much for him sticking around long enough to get 4000 and possibly roses record

U know for some reason I thought he was in 3700s

Hes only at 3316

He would have needed 4 200 hit seasons to get there and if not injured last year would still need at least 3 more years and then hes 42-43

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No doubt Jeter will get 1st ballot and there is already talk about how he ranks as a Yankee.

I looked at all the numbers and while he's in the top 10 he's not on the DiMaggio, Ruth, Gehrig or Mantle tier.

Sure he has over 3000 hits and has made some good plays defensively, However he never won a batting title or MVP. Now the game is different than of decades past but Jeter did not dominate in any offensive category. His postseason stats are good but so are the other 4 that I mentioned.

[spoon]

Probably bc he wasn't juiced. His d was much worse than most remember of him (awful range), but his inside out swing and clutch hits have been sick.

[Ritalin]

Who says he wasn't juiced?


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[newport king]

Remember when baseball players didnt announce their retirement a full year in advance so they could go on farewell tours and have gift upon gift presented to them?

[zildjian361]

When will the Yanks have another Captain

[foodcourtdruide]

Who says he wasn't juiced?


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Thank you. Jeter had a great offensive season at 38 after 2 subpar (for him) ones.

If this doesn't scream PED, I don't know what does:

Age: 36 | OPS: .710
Age: 37 | OPS: .743
Age: 38 | OPS: .790

[foodcourtdruide]

No doubt Jeter will get 1st ballot and there is already talk about how he ranks as a Yankee.

I looked at all the numbers and while he's in the top 10 he's not on the DiMaggio, Ruth, Gehrig or Mantle tier.

Sure he has over 3000 hits and has made some good plays defensively, However he never won a batting title or MVP. Now the game is different than of decades past but Jeter did not dominate in any offensive category. His postseason stats are good but so are the other 4 that I mentioned.

This is one of those things that makes me look down on someone when they bring it up. Great player? Yes. First ballot hall of famer? Eh.. as far as shortstops go, his numbers probably justify this. One of the greatest players of all time? Not even close.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think if Jeter didn't play in NY he would be in the same situation as Biggio. 3000 hits, consistent for 20 years but no individual awards. I think eventually Biggio would get in but it's going to be a couple of more years.


Jeter has the postseason numbers in his favor.

[spoon]

Thank you. Jeter had a great offensive season at 38 after 2 subpar (for him) ones.

If this doesn't scream PED, I don't know what does:

Age: 36 | OPS: .710
Age: 37 | OPS: .743
Age: 38 | OPS: .790
One final year closer to his norm...tied to that stadium and great batters around him who make a 38 year old Jeter the easier to pitch to...yah, i won't condemn a guy based on such a frivolous argument with not a whiff a smoke to indicate fire. Until there is SOMETHING at all, he's clean.

[newport king]

Jeremy Giambi was safe.

[spoon]

Giambi was safe yes...and man jeter embellished his famous into the seats foul ball catch. Oh and let's not forget him stiffing the big dope who caught his 3000th ball...but let's make sure the millionaire gets more free shit.

[cougarjake13]

Would be funny if he tears his acl in first week of reg season

[spoon]

I hate the spanks, but still not funny at all.

[cougarjake13]

Not funny he got hurt


funny that they are prob planning the farewell tour and if he cant play

[WRESTLINGFAN]

CC is looking leaner.




http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/10456605/cc-sabathia-says-shed-extra-offseason-pounds-carry-weight-new-york-yankees-rotation

[foodcourtdruide]

One final year closer to his norm...tied to that stadium and great batters around him who make a 38 year old Jeter the easier to pitch to...yah, i won't condemn a guy based on such a frivolous argument with not a whiff a smoke to indicate fire. Until there is SOMETHING at all, he's clean.

It's circumstantial and clearly wouldn't hold up in court. However, it looks suspicious to me. At age 35, he has a two clear years of decline, then at 38 he rebounds? If this was anyone else I think we'd be rolling our eyes. And the Yankees always have a fantastic line-up.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Off to an early start



http://teespring.com/onemorering

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yanks and Gardner agree to 4 yr 52mm extension

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I know its exhibition games and the real test is the regular season, but Tanaka has been impressive so far. Pineda had some good outings too. CC slimmed down and had a good outing yesterday. We'll see how they do when it counts

[spoon]

Can't wait...such a feel good story these yanks. Puke.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another strong outing by Pineda


Yanks were playing split squad today. Bees delayed the game vs the Sox

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Barry Zito hasn't been signed with a team yet. Yanks should look at him as an emergency 5th starter in case Phelps or Pineda hit the DL. He would be signed on the cheap and would be low risk.

[cougarjake13]

Wow

Has it been 7 yrs already ?
Well giants got 2 ws titles during it and helped in the 2nd one dont remeber how he did in first ws run

[WRESTLINGFAN]

At the time it was the largest signing for a pitcher

If I'm correct for 2010 Zito wasn't on the postseason roster at all