what is happening with the show?

[Big_D]

what is happening with the show? just wondering :ohmy:

[LeedsJr]

what is happening with the show? just wondering :ohmy:


The same thing that happens every year when they do this bit. Nothing.

[deliciousV]

what is happening with the show? just wondering :ohmy:

there are several theories on this, the show is ending, the show is changing, Fez is on his way out, it's all an elaborate ruse with some excellent performances.

Ron has been saying, especially the Fri. before Thanksgiving, that things need to change, he's not enjoying the way things are, He told Fez he had done well for a couple of weeks, then went right back and he can't take it anymore, so he had a decision to make.
Instead of coming back from break on his game, Fez has been even more quiet, so Ron has made it clear that he'd have a decision and announcement on Fri.
Fez came in today bitchy and sullen, apparently they had a dinner with the big wigs last night and paranoia Fez believed it was all about getting rid of him, Ron blew up at him, then Fez got all pitiful, literally begging Ron not to "let them do this to us", and "please don't make a change". And he cried during a live read.
That's about the sum of it. Todays show was worth a listen, if you can find a way. Might not be too many more.

[SonOfSmeagol]

there are several theories on this, the show is ending, the show is changing, Fez is on his way out, it's all an elaborate ruse with some excellent performances.

Ron has been saying, especially the Fri. before Thanksgiving, that things need to change, he's not enjoying the way things are, He told Fez he had done well for a couple of weeks, then went right back and he can't take it anymore, so he had a decision to make.
Instead of coming back from break on his game, Fez has been even more quiet, so Ron has made it clear that he'd have a decision and announcement on Fri.
Fez came in today bitchy and sullen, apparently they had a dinner with the big wigs last night and paranoia Fez believed it was all about getting rid of him, Ron blew up at him, then Fez got all pitiful, literally begging Ron not to "let them do this to us", and "please don't make a change". And he cried during a live read.
That's about the sum of it. Todays show was worth a listen, if you can find a way. Might not be too many more.

dayum

maybe it's part reality and part bit - a dramatic rendering of reality by a coupla hams

[TimTimSalabim]

Totally real. You could sense the tension when Ron went all Howard Beale on Fez.

[sailor]

The same thing that happens every year when they do this bit. Nothing.

It's very different his time around. Management is aware and offering to let them each do their own thing or take a sabbatical. Which, of course, is all a plot against fez.

[LeedsJr]

It's very different his time around. Management is aware and offering to let them each do their own thing or take a sabbatical. Which, of course, is all a plot against fez.


Different how?
Am I the only one who remembers the, "I lost a partner, I lost a friend" speech from Ron 2 years ago (I think)?
Or Ron practically begging Fez to admit he shouldn't be doing the show anymore, or that he should move to OutQ?
They have done ALL of this before, and until they actually make a change, I say it's a bit.
Not that I mind, by the way. It's great radio.

[sailor]

Different how?
Am I the only one who remembers the, "I lost a partner, I lost a friend" speech from Ron 2 years ago (I think)?
Or Ron practically begging Fez to admit he shouldn't be doing the show anymore, or that he should move to OutQ?
They have done ALL of this before, and until they actually make a change, I say it's a bit.
Not that I mind, by the way. It's great radio.

The whole management being involved aspect is different. Like you said, it's fun radio. We'll see.

[LeedsJr]

The whole management being involved aspect is different. Like you said, it's fun radio. We'll see.


I respectfully disagree. I've heard Ron tell Fez that management has asked about him before, or heard Fez step up his game after being talked to by management.
And again, I WANT to be wrong. I want the show to be consistently funny again. But until they actually DO something, it's the same old, same old.

[keithy_19]

what is happening with the show? just wondering :ohmy:

There's a show?

[LeedsJr]

There's a show?

Depends. You feel like dancing?

[jennysmurf]

Depends. You feel like dancing?

Pedo! He's only 19!

[LeedsJr]

Pedo! He's only 19!

Me too! If I lived on Saturn, anyways...

[jennysmurf]

Me too! If I lived on Saturn, anyways...

Yeah, and I weigh about 25 pounds on the Moon, but that's not important right now.

[LeedsJr]

Yeah, and I weigh about 25 pounds on the Moon, but that's not important right now.


You should eat something. Stat!

[Dude!]

the same awfulness
as the past six years

please move along...
nothing to hear here

[jennysmurf]

You should eat something. Stat!

I am kinda hungry.

[keithy_19]

Depends. You feel like dancing?

What kind of dancing?

[deliciousV]

You should eat something. Stat!

don't get her started

[LeedsJr]

What kind of dancing?

Square?

[deliciousV]

What kind of dancing?

Salsa, with a side of everything mexican.

[jennysmurf]

Salsa, with a side of everything mexican.

Racist.

[LeedsJr]

Racist.

I thought you were hungry. Mexican with a side of salsa sounds delicious.

[deliciousV]

I thought you were hungry. Mexican with a side of salsa sounds delicious.

Wazzat?

Dear Jenny, who is fucking up the ISpy?

yours truly, ME!

[LeedsJr]

Wazzat?

Dear Jenny, who is fucking up the ISpy?

yours truly, ME!


You're doing WHAT with Spy??

[jennysmurf]

Wazzat?

Dear Jenny, who is fucking up the ISpy?

yours truly, ME!

That would be me deleting spammers. Stop being like disneyspy and just deal with it!

[deliciousV]

That would be me deleting spammers. Stop being like disneyspy and just deal with it!

I find it difficult to be a part of 3 different threads without the ISpy, especially while I'm drinking/breathing

[jennysmurf]

I find it difficult to be a part of 3 different threads without the ISpy, especially while I'm drinking/breathing

I don't use ISpy, and I'm having no trouble. You're just dumb.

[LeedsJr]

I don't use ISpy, and I'm having no trouble. You're just dumb.


I don't even know what ISpy is. Does that make me smart or dumb?

[LeedsJr]

What kind of dancing?

Square?


I guess Keithy doesn't like square dancing. :sad:

[jennysmurf]

I don't even know what ISpy is. Does that make me smart or dumb?

I don't know what it is either, so that makes it dumb.

[jennysmurf]

I guess Keithy doesn't like square dancing. :sad:

I think he was hoping for something sexier.

[LeedsJr]

I think he was hoping for something sexier.

Polka?

[TimTimSalabim]

You should eat something. Stat!

Can you eat Stat?

[jennysmurf]

Can you eat Stat?

I'd have to meet them first, maybe have a nice dinner, then we'd see.

[jennysmurf]

Polka?

Warmer?

[sailor]

I respectfully disagree. I've heard Ron tell Fez that management has asked about him before, or heard Fez step up his game after being talked to by management.
And again, I WANT to be wrong. I want the show to be consistently funny again. But until they actually DO something, it's the same old, same old.

Listening to the beginning of o&a, they also see it as different and are insiders, for what it's worth.

[PapaBear]

I don't even know what ISpy is. Does that make me smart or dumb?
Ignorance is bliss. I've looked at it before. I find it easier to just click "new posts" every once in a while.

[deliciousV]

Here is what happened with the show yesterday

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[sailor]

Here is what happened with the show yesterday

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Thanks. I was confused that jimmy kept mentioning YouTube.

[SouthSideJohnny]

I didn't miss a show for at least 6 years but finally gave up on it about 8 months ago. I saw some stuff on Twitter about yesterday's blowup and wanted to hear what happened. The segment on the YouTube link is exactly why I stopped listening. Fez either does therapy on air (without actually making changes) or goes dead air and then screams at callers for actually participating on a talk show and discussing topics Fez brought up.

I really miss hearing Ronnie and Hicks, but it's too sad to listen to anymore. I feel bad for Fez. I feel worse for Ronnie who has been patiently trying to help his buddy for years and is just tired. When he finally lays it out for Fez, Fez completely ignores Ronnie's feelings and exhaustion and says, "Don't let them do this to us."

It can be difficult to end even a bad partnership, but I hope for Ronnie's sake that he's finally ready to move on.

[fezident]

Only slightly off-topic, but... I am very bothered every time Ron (and others) say "for the past couple of weeks, Fez has been great!" and/or "you've had a great couple of weeks, Fezzie!, but then you relapsed..."

It was NOT a "couple of weeks". It was maaaaybe two or three days here and there. Maybe.
And of those days, it was very selective minutes/breaks of Fez being involved. (by involved, I mean: saying "yes" and "sure" and "uh huh" and "right" and normal human intervals, and yes... having points-of-view and valid contributions to the show)


I am two days behind on the show, so I don't know what exactly is going on right now. I haven't heard any recent breakdowns, nor am I aware of Ron's "meetings down the hall" results, but...
... regardless of all that... Fez was never "great!" for two weeks. That was Ron's attempt at making Fez feel like he COULD do great radio if he wanted. That was positive reinforcement, if anything.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think the people who don't think this is a bit are people who have had to endure full-fledged narcissists in their lives. This is exactly how they act. Fez is completely ignoring everything Ron says and completely insulting him by not trusting him and Fez has absolutely no remorse for that and isn't even aware it's happening. That is textbook narcissism.

[spoon]

foody, are you saying Ron's not too…if not more?

[foodcourtdruide]

foody, are you saying Ron's not too…if not more?

I don't believe so. I mean, don't get me wrong, he has an ego, but there's a huge difference between that and full-blown narcissism. Fez is pathological.

[spoon]

got ya

[Fugitive]

...even carnies go insane.

[danner1515]

Any chances of this being a bit were obliterated when Fez broke down during the live read.

It's a really sad situation. I feel bad for the position Ron is in.

[CountryBob]

Any chances of this being a bit were obliterated when Fez broke down during the live read.

It's a really sad situation. I feel bad for the position Ron is in.

time to man up and do what's best for the show - as unfortunate as it may be.
Fez could be a better visitor to the show every so often (like Earl SHOULD be)

[yojimbo7248]

800-Ron0Rodes (sp?)

quite the slip there. Sounds like it would be a good show.

[epo]

I've been waiting for the drama to end before I bother to listen. I've been off the bandwagon for about 1.5 years. It's not that I don't like the show, it's that I've tired of the insider garbage that radio pulls. I don't care about your contract. I don't care about your business. I do care about being entertained and listening to Fez cry is not entertaining.

Let me know when they start being entertaining again.

[sailor]

I've been waiting for the drama to end before I bother to listen. I've been off the bandwagon for about 1.5 years. It's not that I don't like the show, it's that I've tired of the insider garbage that radio pulls. I don't care about your contract. I don't care about your business. I do care about being entertained and listening to Fez cry is not entertaining.

Let me know when they start being entertaining again.

Same reasons I stopped reading your posts in the politics forum. ;)

[epo]

Same reasons I stopped reading your posts in the politics forum. ;)

Fair enough. However you don't have to pay money to read them, whereas I have to pay to listen to the show.

Now entertain me Sailor!

[sailor]

Fair enough. However you don't have to pay money to read them, whereas I have to pay to listen to the show.

Now entertain me Sailor!

You're in for a long, boring wait...

[TimTimSalabim]

I've been waiting for the drama to end before I bother to listen. I've been off the bandwagon for about 1.5 years. It's not that I don't like the show, it's that I've tired of the insider garbage that radio pulls. I don't care about your contract. I don't care about your business. I do care about being entertained and listening to Fez cry is not entertaining.

Let me know when they start being entertaining again.

The show has always been an open book. That's part of the entertainment. If you want them to sweep everything under the rug, then terrestrial radio might be for you.

[epo]

The show has always been an open book. That's part of the entertainment. If you want them to sweep everything under the rug, then terrestrial radio might be for you.

Yawn. I've listened to Ron/Ron/Fez since Florida, so save me the "definition of the show" lecture.

There comes a point when entertainment ceases to be entertaining. Unfortunately years of crying is too much to find entertaining.

[CountryBob]

The show has always been an open book. That's part of the entertainment. If you want them to sweep everything under the rug, then terrestrial radio might be for you.

regardless of being an open book - the show is definitely not as funny as it used to be.

[Stevezilla]

I think this is the most compelling radio that has ever aired. We all have a front row seat to the eventual complete implosion of a human being. To all you dopes waiting for things to change, go listen to O and A. They'll give your dumb ass fart jokes. As for me, I will continue to cherish the most interesting and compelling radio ever broadcast. Ever notice how many people call in when Fez goes off? Wake the fuck up...this IS the shit!!!!

When the calls stop, so will the bit.

[Stevezilla]

regardless of being an open book - the show is definitely not as funny as it used to be.

It's not just about funny...it's about fascinating. Is it funny when Ronnie interviews an author or film maker? The show is meant to be multi-fascited...and it is.

[SonOfSmeagol]

fascinating is 3 posts in 8 years
http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/GIF/c074.gif

[Dude!]

fascinating is 3 posts in 8 years

are you suggesting that
Stevezilla is Fez?

[MasterSoySauce]

As much as I miss the old fez and loved when Ron did O&A the other day, i'd miss the rnf show if they split rnf up. I think fez's issues do make for some good material and allows ron to bust his balls and take jabs that are funny to me. I guess I'd miss it because it's the ron and fez show ending. I thought for a while that it was a bit but i dont know and if it's not and ron moves on it will suck.

[keithy_19]

I guess Keithy doesn't like square dancing. :sad:

I'm too cool for square dancing, nerd.

:drunk:

[keithy_19]

I think this is the most compelling radio that has ever aired. We all have a front row seat to the eventual complete implosion of a human being. To all you dopes waiting for things to change, go listen to O and A. They'll give your dumb ass fart jokes. As for me, I will continue to cherish the most interesting and compelling radio ever broadcast. Ever notice how many people call in when Fez goes off? Wake the fuck up...this IS the shit!!!!

When the calls stop, so will the bit.

I don't like watching/listening to people implode. Granted, I haven't been listening to the show much lately. Meaning at all. For like a few years. Only here and there on occasion.

Interesting that I'm a mod.

[SonOfSmeagol]

Interesting that I'm a mod.
forever_mod comes with the forever_19 package
besides, you're a good guy
:drunk:

[keithy_19]

forever_mod comes with the forever_19 package
besides, you're a good guy
:drunk:

Hey! Thanks buddy! :happy:

[Furtherman]

Finally got to listen.

I was Team Fez up into a couple years ago. I wanted it all to change when he came out. I've only listened a few times this year.

If the show ends, I'm happy for Ron and hope he gets a new gig. If it continues without Fez, then I look forward to a new chapter.

[spoon]

You're in for a long, boring wait...

you really are

[spoon]

I think this is the most compelling radio that has ever aired. We all have a front row seat to the eventual complete implosion of a human being. To all you dopes waiting for things to change, go listen to O and A. They'll give your dumb ass fart jokes. As for me, I will continue to cherish the most interesting and compelling radio ever broadcast. Ever notice how many people call in when Fez goes off? Wake the fuck up...this IS the shit!!!!

When the calls stop, so will the bit.



sure thing radio insider!

give me a fucking break

[spoon]

are you suggesting that
Stevezilla is Fez?

DAMMIT!!

twice you cracked me up of late

wtf is going on?!

:lol:

[Dude!]

hey, jenny or sailor or other
responsible mod (if there are any)...
could you kindly keep Stalky McDahmer
away from my posts?

his obsession is getting
really creepy

[Bob Impact]

Yawn. I've listened to Ron/Ron/Fez since Florida, so save me the "definition of the show" lecture.

There comes a point when entertainment ceases to be entertaining. Unfortunately years of crying is too much to find entertaining.

This is my thing. I've been on board since ronandfez.com and this is the first i've listened in about a year or more. My problem is that it's just too sad to hear Fez that way. He's obviously a man in pain.

[danner1515]

My problem is that it's just too sad to hear Fez that way. He's obviously a man in pain.

Yep. Any entertainment gained from this drama is at the expense of a mentally ill man.

[Fugitive]

Too cheap to write Fez off as a narcissist, though. I've known narcissists and I've read about the psychology of narcissists. They're happy with themselves. Horrible to deal with, but happy with THEMSELVES. That ain't Fez. He's got stuff wrong in his head, but it isn't narcissism. If it was that simple, he'd be better by now.

[thepaulo]

I don't know what I'm going to do. I was suppose to stay with Fez next week. Now I'll probably have to stay with Ratzo Rizzo.

[Fugitive]

...but Paul's post shows that it's not too cheap to write him off as a narcissist.

[jennysmurf]

hey, jenny or sailor or other
responsible mod (if there are any)...
could you kindly keep Stalky McDahmer
away from my posts?

his obsession is getting
really creepy

I would never keep two people apart who are meant for each other.

[Fallon]

I listen a few times a month now after listening religiously.

And it's not even just the Fez issue for me, it's the interviews Ron does, I just don't care about a majority of the guests. I get he's good at it and the guests love him, but it's not why I used to tune into the show for.

Hopefully this change will bring some life back into the program.

[bohicanator]

He saw his shadow, 3 more months of Fez.

Enjoyed Nature Boy. But I ain't buyin' it.

Props to Ron for getting out from under Opie's stormy cloud of 1st-World misery.

[TimTimSalabim]

He's also out from under one of the best lead-ins on the network.

[deliciousV]

He's also out from under one of the best lead-ins on the network.

the shit show?

[LeedsJr]

the shit show?


Dude, that's some funny fucking shit right there.

[TimTimSalabim]

The lead-in is the channel more than it is the particular show that precedes them.

[bohicanator]

Dude, that's some funny fucking shit right there.


I almost did a spit take...

The original point was true enough though... O&A top lead-ins.
Ron will bring his loyal following though.

It's anyone's guess what will happen w/ Fezzy but I'll hope for the best.

[deliciousV]

Huh huh, what comes on after the Stern show?

[CountryBob]

Huh huh, what comes on after the Stern show?

the Stern shit show

[spoon]

In all seriousness, what was the verdict? I was only able to catch not being on the oa channel and had meetings all day.

[epo]

In all seriousness, what was the verdict? I was only able to catch not being on the oa channel and had meetings all day.

It looks like this:

R&F start on Rawdog on 1/6/14 with a comedian based show.

That sounds like it could be interesting.

Source (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3096390&postcount=139)

[deliciousV]

In all seriousness, what was the verdict? I was only able to catch not being on the oa channel and had meetings all day.

also Fez and Ron are now on separate contracts, Fez answers to Wikki and is on a 4 month probation, on April 6 he will have a performance review, if he's not performing, they won't renew his contract.

[foodcourtdruide]

Shit.. what happens to the audible show?

[foodcourtdruide]

Too cheap to write Fez off as a narcissist, though. I've known narcissists and I've read about the psychology of narcissists. They're happy with themselves. Horrible to deal with, but happy with THEMSELVES. That ain't Fez. He's got stuff wrong in his head, but it isn't narcissism. If it was that simple, he'd be better by now.

Completely disagree. Fez isn't "happy", but he always defends himself and thinks he's correct. What makes Fez a true narcissist is that while hating himself, he defends all of his thoughts and beliefs and believes others are inferior to him.

A week or so ago Ron read an email that has been in my mind since, it said something like: "When dealing with a narcissist, always remember that you matter just as much as they do".

Fez is a textbook narcissist, in my opinion.

[FatassTitePants]

Shit.. what happens to the audible show?

I would like to know this too. I would assume they have their own deal with Audible via XM/Sirius, so hopefully that means nothing changes with Audible.

If so, those fuckers owe me almost 30 bucks.

[danner1515]

I would like to know this too. I would assume they have their own deal with Audible via XM/Sirius, so hopefully that means nothing changes with Audible.

If so, those fuckers owe me almost 30 bucks.


Yeah, I'll be a little upset if I wind up getting 10 months of replays.

[bugmenot]

i hope they eventually;y move to 7-11 live

doing the big ass simulcast again w/tv shows /events / ect ..


that was the best ..

[deliciousV]

i hope they eventually;y move to 7-11 live

doing the big ass simulcast again w/tv shows /events / ect ..


that was the best ..

they said they were going 12-3, but they have the authority to do night shows and simulcasts, if the lawyers will let them.

[newport king]

So does this mean that unlistenable brother wease will be on sirius now?

[spoon]

Loved it back when stern had mornings, oa aft drive and r/f at night. Ruled and THAT lineup should have become the norm everywhere but efos got in the way. Hate nothing from 3pm-6am live. Crazy they never filled it with so much out there wanting time. Use another channel to replay shit.

[Dysphoric Hermit]

They have done ALL of this before, and until they actually make a change, I say it's a bit.
Not that I mind, by the way. It's great radio.

Is it? If it is a bit, it's old and needs to be wrapped up. I think the show's in trouble when it has to use filler like RBI or Unmasked for an hour or more. Just MHO.

[Dysphoric Hermit]

I don't know what I'm going to do. I was suppose to stay with Fez next week. Now I'll probably have to stay with Ratzo Rizzo.

Stay with Blowhard and video stream it?

[hanso]

So does this mean that unlistenable brother wease will be on sirius now?

Could be Baltazar & Pebbles

[spoon]

Stay with Blowhard and video stream it?

you need to hook up with disgruntled sherpa…I see a great camping/living off the grid supply store in your future

[Billy Staples]

Now I am really confused...

Where do I go niow to whore myself out and promo my Christmas CD?

A VERY FILTHY XXX-MAS is still available at filthyxxxmas.com, of course



Besides that, I am hesitant to call in, if there is still a show going on as I am really confused as to whats going on. Plus I don't want to make it seem that after an 'extended vacation' again, I am all of a sudden showing for up for a gig opportunity.

can't a guy just sell classic Christmas filth without ulterior motives?


I listened to that meltdown clip, very hard listen, but was shocked at poor Fez' dont let them do this to us comments. He doesn't seem to see the big picture of whats been going on the past few years and its sad. The 'us' that now exists isn't the same and unfair to Ron to ask him to save something that is one sided. Not a great spot for Ron to be, all these years of this new quieter Fez and when push comes to shove, its playing on the heartstrings and friendship card. Brutal spot to be in. Albeit a biz partner or a friend

I hope as my friend Fez comes out of this on top, stronger, more confident and more of a whole than a part of a duo.

That kind of says it for me....Fez needs to be an individual and can stand and perform on his own, as he has the talent to do it, just lacks the...'whatever'. Being part of a team has always given him the support of a very strong partner, comic mind and as I've said on the air often a very brilliant business mind. One of the best I have ever met. Ron sees the whole business picture and way ahead of the now. (Please this is not just referring to this present situation as I picked this feeling up working together at WNEW). Ron sees business like a grandmaster at chess who can see the game 10-12 moves ahead of where he is now. A guess on the move #, OK grandmasters out there.

OK, thats all.

the best way to get thru this tough time is some comedy, like available at filthyxxxmas.com.

Staples

filthyxxxmas.com

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[spoon]

you just did Billy (whore it!)

:tongue:

[WhaleFontanelle]

Billy,

This is the perfect time for you to visit the show.

Hope to hear you soon!

[spoon]

thank GOD the better WF is back

[jennysmurf]

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[Midkiff]

Now I am really confused...

filthyxxxmas.com

[/SIZE]

Dear Billy,

Get well soon.

Love, Me

[Dysphoric Hermit]

He saw his shadow, 3 more months of Fez.

Enjoyed Nature Boy. But I ain't buyin' it.

Props to Ron for getting out from under Opie's stormy cloud of 1st-World misery.

Any chance the move to 99 might have something to do with Shelbygate?

[Midkiff]

He saw his shadow, 3 more months of Fez.

Enjoyed Nature Boy. But I ain't buyin' it.

Props to Ron for getting out from under Opie's stormy cloud of 1st-World misery.

His shit already fell apart on yesterday's show. Right back in the old groove, but with a higher-pitched voice.

[hanso]

Maybe the new show can borrow the Mrs Fields slogan..."Good Enough Never Is"

[furie]

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Rawdog frighten and confuses me.

http://cdn0.dailydot.com/cache/c6/70/c670ce9090efe66b5311bff3dcb187df.jpg

[jennysmurf]

Rawdog frighten and confuses me.

http://cdn0.dailydot.com/cache/c6/70/c670ce9090efe66b5311bff3dcb187df.jpg

:laugh:

[fezident]

I don't think I can't endure hearing Ron say "Rall Dog" for the next few years.

[thepaulo]

What am I going to do with all of you?

[deliciousV]

What am I going to do with all of you?

what'd ya have in mind big boy?

[Billy Staples]

OK, can someone type very slowly what exactly are the changes that are or were being made.

I admit being out of the loop for a bit, but these changes are again 'confusing' me, despite the well wishes for me to get better.
I think this is about as better as better gets.

What are the changes? Can they be spelled out for someone who is not only not an insider, but truly doesn't know the difference in channels and are there going to be different shows? Who is staying or going.


Oh, is Rob still there immediate boss still. Even though I met him and interviewed with him, I can't recall his last name.


Different Note, I came across an old memory stick last week with no clue as to what was on it, it turned out to be all the contents of my old WNEW computer, or most of it anyway. So many of all the bits I'd written , promos, contests etc. etc. blah blah blah, some that never even came close to being on the air.

I often wondered of listeners could tell what bits Fez wrote or I wrote and was there much a difference. After awhile our styles became pretty close, as his was totally in line with the show, so it made sense to try and alter the style. Actually more the format, as my content couldn't really change it is or was what it was/is. In the beginning Ron was asking me, like where did you get that idea from, I said the train on the way home, I jotted the idea down and started adding to it. It was like, Staples, you couldn't come up with that. Like I said that was the beginning. Lizzie Grubman changed that for me.
anyway it was really funny to see all the stuff on there from over 12 years ago.

This June was 10 years since I left the show and the guys left for DC for Good, 6/27/03.

Ron invited me up there, but I couldn't make it for personal reasons at the time, which sucked, and I couldn't change but truly regret. Its been 2 years since I saw the guys in the studio. Damn, thats an eternity..

Anyway as always I'm rambling, but am not going to make an apology. I would like some help with the changes though and a Merry Christmas to all you guys and gals. OK, a Happy New Year too.

No more RNF Xmas parties anymore?



Staples

This should have been 3 different posts!

[disneyspy]

i'm not going to quote that but i'll do my best to answer your questions after i tell you that filthy christmas was brought up on the show today so congrats

they're moving to the comedy channel(which the UNMASKED airs on) on jan 6th channel 99

fez will be judged by management in april to see if he still has a job

rob cross is still around

if fez leaves we don't know how it will be formatted

there's no insiders left on this board well theres paulo but he knows less than the rest of us

[Dude!]

This should have been 3 different posts!

yeah, and in
adult-size font as well

[Dell]

Staples

This should have been 3 different posts!


they are moving to a channel that will allow them more freedoms...Fez is coming along (by that, I mean like luggage)

other than that...nothing has changed (Ron may be a bit more bitter than before)

[Billy Staples]

yeah, and in
adult-size font as well


My age adult needs bigger fonts! the eyes are going, going, fuzzy as hell


sorry to those with 20/20 still

lucky bastards

[Billy Staples]

i'm not going to quote that but i'll do my best to answer your questions after i tell you that filthy christmas was brought up on the show today so congrats




Cool....did they play anything or just talk about it or rag it?


Any promotion is good promotion!


Damn I wish I could still listen at times!

[KC2OSO]

they are moving to a channel that will allow them more


I heard Ron pitch it that way but it makes no sense. What would they do on Rall Dog that they can't do now? Zany Bits? Contests?

It's a way to get Fez to move along.

[Dell]

I heard Ron pitch it that way but it makes no sense. What would they do on Rall Dog that they can't do now? Zany Bits? Contests?

It's a way to get Fez to move along.

they can have comedians "visit" instead of being interviewed...this is O&A's exclusive bit on their channel

also, they can have an intern or anyone say something not positive about O&A without O&A going all Howard Stern on them...promising, but far from probable

I'm holding hope...

[KC2OSO]

they can have comedians "visit" instead of being interviewed...this is O&A's exclusive bit on their channel

also, they can have an intern or anyone say something not positive about O&A without O&A going all Howard Stern on them...promising, but far from probable

I'm holding hope...

Could be. Who knows what he really has in mind.

He sure does pick on Fez a lot. Maybe more so now or I just never noticed it or Fez had more balls back in the day and played it off differently.

Real or a bit, Fed's mid-week blubbering last week was unlistenable.

[spoon]

they can have comedians "visit" instead of being interviewed...this is O&A's exclusive bit on their channel

also, they can have an intern or anyone say something not positive about O&A without O&A going all Howard Stern on them...promising, but far from probable

I'm holding hope...

that seems like bs, are they really NOT allowed to chill with comedians bc it's o/a's thing?

that'd be so douchey and why did Rhodes just hang all day recently then?

[TimTimSalabim]

also, they can have an intern or anyone say something not positive about O&A without O&A going all Howard Stern on them...promising, but far from probable.

If that means Classic Shelb is returning it'll all be worth it.

[spoon]

Could be. Who knows what he really has in mind.

He sure does pick on Fez a lot. Maybe more so now or I just never noticed it or Fez had more balls back in the day and played it off differently.

Real or a bit, Fed's mid-week blubbering last week was unlistenable.


fez is a broken man, no doubt and I thought the breakdown show was actually going to have a shot being the stand up show but Fez did his norm and blamed everything on the callers and everyone but Ron

bottom line here is Ron is the biggest reason Fez is at this point, as he has clearly moved on a LONG LONG time ago from the old show and Fez wasn't in plans but stuck around like no other human would have. so instead of being cut loose, he's hanging on to something he can't even see clearly and thinks the asshole callers ripping him apart get through via magic for 5 years now.

the move is nothing short of Ron not having the balls to just cut him loose or end the show, he is the classic push them out and make the other guy make that call. Ron always has his stern-like pack of freaks and geeks around like toys and props and eventually he grows tired of some and like a child he throws tantrums to push them away. did you not notice Hicks getting shit the day Fez wasn't in studio? It's simply bc he'd be the next guy up and would be more exposed if the beat down kid wasn't there any longer. ESD would have run his course with Ronnie too, but you'd hope he'd at least have the balls to step up on the way out.

[deliciousV]

I heard Ron pitch it that way but it makes no sense. What would they do on Rall Dog that they can't do now? Zany Bits? Contests?

It's a way to get Fez to move along.

I don't think it was really their choice, since the new VP came along, he's been pushing for some things that feel like he wants to run things at Sirius like it's one big station, as opposed to a hundred little ones.
Ron said today that he was excited about the move, then said if he wasn't he'd be bitching and raising hell about it. That doesn't sound like something he planned, sounds like management is moving them. Next they want to move O&A to afternoons, then, I'm guessing, they will make a push to drive a very similar audience to 3 different channels at different times of the day.

[spoon]

ron's having his role and play called and has no issue with it and you don't think he had a say and or all but organized it!?

not a chance

no way

[deliciousV]

ron's having his role and play called and has no issue with it and you don't think he had a say and or all but organized it!?

not a chance

no way

I don't think it was his idea, I don't think he fought against it, and probably got on board pretty quick, but I think it's a management move.

[fezident]

Hi Billy,
Nice to see you around here once again.

In short... there won't be any noticeable changes. Certainly not anything noticeable to the listeners. Perhaps there will be a few less interviews with Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Cameron Crowe and Ronnie Wood and that kind of thing, but... the new show will focus on pop culture and comedy... and Ron will take phone calls. Basically.... more of the same.
The show will be one hour shorter "for now". Whatever that means.


This current change is identical in every way to the LAST big change. Fezzie's big "coming out" announcement.
It is, literally, the same. And by that I mean... it's meaningless.

During the time leading up to Fezzie's announcement, the show was at an all time low. Fez wasn't talking at all, and Ron was miserable. Ron threatened to make an announcement. Fez took that opportunity to make an announcement of his own. One that he thought would "change everything!!". It didn't even last two hours. Literally.... not two hours.
On the day of the announcement... Fez was not in the studio for the first hour. Then he came in... made an announcement that he was "all better!"... he somehow managed to sound energetic for 45 minutes... and then they went into an Unmasked.

This last announcement was identical in every way. Ron's announcement was t-boned by some other (meaningless) announcement that they'd be moving to a new time slot and channel. This came with another proclamation from Fez that he was "all better!". He even put his money where his mouth is by "changing my contract to be different from Ronnie's!!"
For about one hour... Fez attempted to sound energized... but... then they aired an Unmasked.
The next day... Fez was exactly the same as he's been for the last 8 years. There was, literally, no change.


At this point, Fez is truly incapable of doing great radio. He's actually incapable of doing any radio at all. Those skills are gone.
Expecting Fez to do great radio in 2013 is like asking Ron to recall the French he learned in his highschool French class. He isn't capable. Those skills are gone.


So... Fez has now extended the ripping of the Band-Aid by another 16 weeks, or whatever it is.


That's basically it.
The change is that they will continue with the status quo.


Fez is secretly hoping that, somehow, satellite radio will simply cease to exist before April is upon us. Or he's hoping that a family member dies the day before his deadline... or that he has another heart attack (or that Ronnie does!) the day before the deadline...... and that management simply won't fire him. Or whatever.


The show is a rudderless ship. Now more than ever... it has no direction.

[KC2OSO]

I don't think it was his idea, I don't think he fought against it, and probably got on board pretty quick, but I think it's a management move.
Yep. Management saying enough codependent puppeteering, at least with Fez. It's four or more years past sick at this point.

Like a good company does, HR will measure performance and make a decision...hopefully.

And I don't think he could function at OutQ. They'd eat him alive. He needs to go open a taco stand in the Cayman islands or something. Christ he must have enough money by now.

Then again, I keep waiting for the show where they say, "HA HA you stupid fuckers, it was all a work and you fell for it."

[TimTimSalabim]

And I don't think he could function at OutQ. They'd eat him alive. He needs to go open a taco stand in the Cayman islands or something.

Featuring half-slices of Mexican pizza?

[KC2OSO]

Featuring half-slices of Mexican pizza?
Racist.

[spoon]

Hi Billy,
Nice to see you around here once again.

In short... there won't be any noticeable changes. Certainly not anything noticeable to the listeners. Perhaps there will be a few less interviews with Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Cameron Crowe and Ronnie Wood and that kind of thing, but... the new show will focus on pop culture and comedy... and Ron will take phone calls. Basically.... more of the same.
The show will be one hour shorter "for now". Whatever that means.


This current change is identical in every way to the LAST big change. Fezzie's big "coming out" announcement.
It is, literally, the same. And by that I mean... it's meaningless.

During the time leading up to Fezzie's announcement, the show was at an all time low. Fez wasn't talking at all, and Ron was miserable. Ron threatened to make an announcement. Fez took that opportunity to make an announcement of his own. One that he thought would "change everything!!". It didn't even last two hours. Literally.... not two hours.
On the day of the announcement... Fez was not in the studio for the first hour. Then he came in... made an announcement that he was "all better!"... he somehow managed to sound energetic for 45 minutes... and then they went into an Unmasked.

This last announcement was identical in every way. Ron's announcement was t-boned by some other (meaningless) announcement that they'd be moving to a new time slot and channel. This came with another proclamation from Fez that he was "all better!". He even put his money where his mouth is by "changing my contract to be different from Ronnie's!!"
For about one hour... Fez attempted to sound energized... but... then they aired an Unmasked.
The next day... Fez was exactly the same as he's been for the last 8 years. There was, literally, no change.


At this point, Fez is truly incapable of doing great radio. He's actually incapable of doing any radio at all. Those skills are gone.
Expecting Fez to do great radio in 2013 is like asking Ron to recall the French he learned in his highschool French class. He isn't capable. Those skills are gone.


So... Fez has now extended the ripping of the Band-Aid by another 16 weeks, or whatever it is.


That's basically it.
The change is that they will continue with the status quo.


Fez is secretly hoping that, somehow, satellite radio will simply cease to exist before April is upon us. Or he's hoping that a family member dies the day before his deadline... or that he has another heart attack (or that Ronnie does!) the day before the deadline...... and that management simply won't fire him. Or whatever.


The show is a rudderless ship. Now more than ever... it has no direction.

the bolded part is LITERALLY more insane than Fez…and I believe one does not get the meaning of the word. there is a HUGE change it this all, and it IS the contract thing you seemed to glance over. it means fez can be nixed without Ronnie linked or behind it to make it so. THAT is a huge thing for xmsirius and ron alike, as ron is free from being attached and the channel thing is the simple ruse to make this all happen in a few months.

[sailor]

that seems like bs, are they really NOT allowed to chill with comedians bc it's o/a's thing?

that'd be so douchey and why did Rhodes just hang all day recently then?

Yeah, I don't think that's real. They used to have jay mohr on a lot and jay oakerson is on fairly often. Maybe Ron wanted to differentiate the two shows, but I don't think there was anything/anyone saying they couldn't do shows like that whenever they wanted.

[deliciousV]

Yeah, I don't think that's real. They used to have jay mohr on a lot and jay oakerson is on fairly often. Maybe Ron wanted to differentiate the two shows, but I don't think there was anything/anyone saying they couldn't do shows like that whenever they wanted.

I don't think they were "forbidden". Like you said, I think it was a self imposed thing, also maybe a bit of a timing thing, comedians come in early to do Stern or O&A, sometimes both, seems like the actors and musicians start rolling in around 11. Ron has said before that having a show full of comedians was O&A's thing, and I remember Patrice saying he'd love to stay around and do R&F, but it never happened.

[keithy_19]

hey, jenny or sailor or other
responsible mod (if there are any)...
could you kindly keep Stalky McDahmer
away from my posts?

his obsession is getting
really creepy

I would have helped but...

:banning:

[ozzie]

Here is what happened with the show yesterday

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/4Yf6iqTjTFQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Is this the hour that was missing from the audible file?

[fezident]

Yeah Ozzie. That's the missing Audible file.
Also... that day... the Audible chapters were loaded backwards. The show began with Edward Burns.
It was strange, to say the least.


Audible hasn't delivered files THAT fucked up (or perhaps RECEIVED files that fucked up) in ages. If ever.
Of course... I have to believe that there's some kind of motive behind it. This was, far and away, the most compelling and emotionally segment that the show has ever ever had.... and Audible "never got" that segment and that segment only??? No way.

[Fugitive]

I think there is some truth to breaking down the "differentiation" between Ron and Fez and O & A - and I think that's aimed straight at O & A. It's easy to accomplish, too - just drop the interview segments hyping HBO shows and emphasize the comedy.

The next time O & A's contract is negotiated, S and (X) M will say hey, we've got another show that's just like yours - with Ron - so try to find some station somewhere that still does shock jock radio if you don't like it here. Or go out and start your own internet show, like mighty Mike O' Meara, and eat at the soup kitchen like him.

And they won't have an answer. This whole thing is about getting Ron out from under O & A's "patronage."

[fezident]

None of the Rall Dog stuff makes sense to me. Not yet, anyway. Comedians are quite welcome on the RnF Show right now. They always have been.
Big Jay Oak comes in and hangs out all the time. Jay Mohr used to hang on the air too.

(but when Tom Rodes (Rhodes? Roads?) comes in and Fez is inexplicably "worried about what THAT's all about"?? I don't get it. )

Am I to understand that NOW Ron will REALLY start interviewing comedians??? Isn't that what he's been doing for years?

The only thing that really changes is that the Fez-clock has started to count down, and when it gets down to zero... Ron isn't the one who has to deal with Fez.

If Fez is too far in denial to realize that Ron really IS the one that's cutting Fez loose... well then... Fezzie's therapist is about to earn enough to put another wing on his house.

[Billy Staples]

I hate being this guy but,


I just listened to Ron's opening on the Raw Dog announcement, going back to the early days at WNEW. ( I hate always being the mentioning WNEW guy) When he likened it to a pirate ship, he couldn't have been more dead on, and this was way before the Staples era, so dont get on me for that, please. The station was like that. I even heard Opie say over the summer something very similar, that they maybe had more freedom, esp from mgmt and 'maybe it was better back then'

I cant imagine what that was like hearing Ron talk about their move to NY on the air just now. I know when we spoke, Ron said that it did come out of basically nowhere when Jeremy told them, where going to NY, when basically they had tickets for DC, supposedly. Basically, these 2 guys came up with the Ron and fez .com show idea literally overnight, pitched it and were on in the biggest market in the US in a week. Pretty amazing stuff.

My 2 years there were the best 2 years of my show biz life, if not not my life period. OK, thats said. Tough at the time, at times, but like my stomach stapling, despite some problems, I wouldn't think twice about doing it again.

To hear the change in ron's voice when talking about the changes was remarkable and so obvious, a different energy almost.

Do I feel like I should just post my resume here, yeah it does seem like it, but this is an exciting time for the show again, and my agenda. I wish I could find a way to afford to listen again.

Nature boy was quite a surprise and well written. Fez did a good job with it, but sounded soooo nervous, as its been a long time since he did that character, but once he got in to it, it was like he didn't miss a beat....Woooo, woooo, woo


When is their last show for this year, the Chrissy Hynde, 'wish yourself a merry little Christmas' show, that I always tear up listening to. Even more this year as it has been a RNF tradition going way back in their careers.


Its can be an exciting time and maybe Ron has a bit more control over the show now and its format and direction. It was cool to hear about them going outside the studio again and live events and traveling.


Merry Christmas to all my old friends, I miss you guys and hearing from you and even hanging up on you when you had lousy phone call ideas, except radioshark. I could never catch that bastard!!!

and they are taking more phone calls too


Staples

oh yeah


veryfilthyxxxmas.com

[LeedsJr]

None of the Rall Dog stuff makes sense to me. Not yet, anyway. Comedians are quite welcome on the RnF Show right now. They always have been.
Big Jay Oak comes in and hangs out all the time. Jay Mohr used to hang on the air too.

(but when Tom Rodes (Rhodes? Roads?) comes in and Fez is inexplicably "worried about what THAT's all about"?? I don't get it. )

Am I to understand that NOW Ron will REALLY start interviewing comedians??? Isn't that what he's been doing for years?

The only thing that really changes is that the Fez-clock has started to count down, and when it gets down to zero... Ron isn't the one who has to deal with Fez.

If Fez is too far in denial to realize that Ron really IS the one that's cutting Fez loose... well then... Fezzie's therapist is about to earn enough to put another wing on his house.



The impression I get is after they move the show will be more of a steady stream of RBI and UnMast with occasional scripted Fez bits.

I think the part about Fez being on the chopping block is a work. I don't think he's going anywhere.

[spoon]

I think there is some truth to breaking down the "differentiation" between Ron and Fez and O & A - and I think that's aimed straight at O & A. It's easy to accomplish, too - just drop the interview segments hyping HBO shows and emphasize the comedy.

The next time O & A's contract is negotiated, S and (X) M will say hey, we've got another show that's just like yours - with Ron - so try to find some station somewhere that still does shock jock radio if you don't like it here. Or go out and start your own internet show, like mighty Mike O' Meara, and eat at the soup kitchen like him.

And they won't have an answer. This whole thing is about getting Ron out from under O & A's "patronage."

no, it's not…O/A won't be dropped bc ron is on raw dog

[hanso]

The impression I get is after they move the show will be more of a steady stream of RBI and UnMast with occasional scripted Fez bits.

I think the part about Fez being on the chopping block is a work. I don't think he's going anywhere.

They could go that way, it should be up to Ron if the show isn't going how he wants he can throw on rbi/unmast. Or just to keep up the appearance of the channel have more comics in to just 'hang'. This is how I hope it goes.

[sailor]

They could go that way, it should be up to Ron if the show isn't going how he wants he can throw on rbi/unmast. Or just to keep up the appearance of the channel have more comics in to just 'hang'. This is how I hope it goes.

To me it sounded like the latter, not the former.

[deliciousV]

The impression I get is after they move the show will be more of a steady stream of RBI and UnMast with occasional scripted Fez bits.

I think the part about Fez being on the chopping block is a work. I don't think he's going anywhere.

what show do you listen to? Ron said "more comics, hopefully some you've never heard before" and "a fast paced show with lot's of comics coming thru", and that's what you got out of it? They won't be play Unmasked during their 3 hour show because Raw Dog already has a time slot for Raw Dog, The Ron and Fez show has the 4 hours they are given on the O&A channel, so they use 1 a week for the unmasked.

and I love the level of acting skills you believe these guys have, "a work"? Did you hear Ron talking about his dad being pissed at him for "taking his foot off of Fez's throat"? Who's writing these scripts? Why, when Ron seems to love film more than anything, is he wasting his obviously vast acting chops on a radio bit? How many times does a show that has always prided itself on complete openness and honest radio have to say "this is a shoot" before you stop saying "work"?

[LeedsJr]

Did I offend you somehow? If so, I'm sorry.

This show prides itself on openness?
This show has never hidden its carny/wrestling roots.
The first rule with both of those is if the audience sees it, it's a work

You think the result of all that supposed soul-bearing is moving the show to another channel??
I didn't mean they will call the segments RBI or UnMast, I meant it will be that format- Ron interviewing/ plugging comics more, interacting with Fez less, and Fez doing scripted bits in between.

[Dude!]

I didn't mean they will call the segments RBI or UnMast, I meant it will be that format- Ron interviewing/ plugging comics more, interacting with Fez less, and Fez doing scripted bits in between.

never rely on hanso
for your spelling...

it's "unmasked"

[LeedsJr]

never rely on hanso
for your spelling...

it's "unmasked"


Not the way they say it. :laugh:

(It's kind of a running joke in the Listening Threads)

[sailor]

never rely on hanso
for your spelling...

it's "unmasked"

You've never heard Ron "pronounce" it, I imagine.

[deliciousV]

Did I offend you somehow? If so, I'm sorry.

This show prides itself on openness?
This show has never hidden its carny/wrestling roots.
The first rule with both of those is if the audience sees it, it's a work

You think the result of all that supposed soul-bearing is moving the show to another channel??
I didn't mean they will call the segments RBI or UnMast, I meant it will be that format- Ron interviewing/ plugging comics more, interacting with Fez less, and Fez doing scripted bits in between.

I'm certainly not offended, I'm sorry I came off that way.
Your takes do frustrate me at times, but never to the point of anger.
They have stated in the past that if they say it's a shoot, it's a shoot. Ron has stated many times "this will be a fast paced show" , what you are anticipating is not fast paced, so I believe you are mistaken.

[Dude!]

You've never heard Ron "pronounce" it, I imagine.

how would I...
the show is unlistenable

[A.J.]

never rely on hanso
for your spelling...

it's "unmasked"

You've never heard Ron "pronounce" it, I imagine.

Not the way they say it. :laugh:

(It's kind of a running joke in the Listening Threads)

how would I...
the show is unlistenable

I find it amazing...phenomenal even.

[LeedsJr]

I'm certainly not offended, I'm sorry I came off that way.
Your takes do frustrate me at times, but never to the point of anger.
They have stated in the past that if they say it's a shoot, it's a shoot. Ron has stated many times "this will be a fast paced show" , what you are anticipating is not fast paced, so I believe you are mistaken.


Maybe because I was a wrestling fan forever, then an RnF fan since NEW, I don't buy the "if they say it's a shoot" stuff.
Like I said before, rule #1 about carny/wrestling - if the audience sees it, it's a work.
I just can't buy a company not intervening with someone who came off as so clearly delusional, even borderline psychotic, as Fez did during that epic meltdown. To me, that SCREAMED "work".
I think the part about Fez being probationary is a work as well. Either they've already worked out separation terms, or they are just transitioning both buddays and the show to something that fits them better.
You're right, saying it will be RBI/UnMast doesn't make it sound fast-paced. And it may well be. It just won't be RnF, it'll be Ron and guests, with interjected Fez bits.
At least that's my worthless opinion, I could be wrong. :wink:

[deliciousV]

Maybe because I was a wrestling fan forever, then an RnF fan since NEW, I don't buy the "if they say it's a shoot" stuff.
Like I said before, rule #1 about carny/wrestling - if the audience sees it, it's a work.
I just can't buy a company not intervening with someone who came off as so clearly delusional, even borderline psychotic, as Fez did during that epic meltdown. To me, that SCREAMED "work".
I think the part about Fez being probationary is a work as well. Either they've already worked out separation terms, or they are just transitioning both buddays and the show to something that fits them better.
You're right, saying it will be RBI/UnMast doesn't make it sound fast-paced. And it may well be. It just won't be RnF, it'll be Ron and guests, with interjected Fez bits.
At least that's my worthless opinion, I could be wrong. :wink:

way to go out on a limb there :thumbup: you've kinda hedged your bets, right no matter what.

And your opinion is no more worthless than any other, you can be wrong if you want to.

[LeedsJr]

way to go out on a limb there :thumbup: you've kinda hedged your bets, right no matter what.

And your opinion is no more worthless than any other, you can be wrong if you want to.


HA!
What I meant was, I don't buy the probation thing.
I think the outcome has been predetermined. Carny to the bone.

[spoon]

what show do you listen to? Ron said "more comics, hopefully some you've never heard before" and "a fast paced show with lot's of comics coming thru", and that's what you got out of it? They won't be play Unmasked during their 3 hour show because Raw Dog already has a time slot for Raw Dog, The Ron and Fez show has the 4 hours they are given on the O&A channel, so they use 1 a week for the unmasked.

and I love the level of acting skills you believe these guys have, "a work"? Did you hear Ron talking about his dad being pissed at him for "taking his foot off of Fez's throat"? Who's writing these scripts? Why, when Ron seems to love film more than anything, is he wasting his obviously vast acting chops on a radio bit? How many times does a show that has always prided itself on complete openness and honest radio have to say "this is a shoot" before you stop saying "work"?

not saying who is right here, but come on V, the show has played games with the listeners, hanger ons and everyone since day one

hell, go check out J Lawerence's upskirt while you're at it!

come on man

[deliciousV]

not saying who is right here, but come on V, the show has played games with the listeners, hanger ons and everyone since day one

hell, go check out J Lawerence's upskirt while you're at it!

come on man

thanks for not saying :thumbup:

[Melk]

I'm not a psychic out anything, but it seems to me that because Ron is handling three shows and he has a
reasonably good reputation with management, the agents of his guests, and the like, April 6th isn't just Fez's deadline. The idea is the RawDog SiriusXM Comedy Hits 99 will become "The Ron Bennington Channel" where he gets the right to program his own channel, hire people, etc.

[spoon]

thanks for not saying :thumbup:

meaning this case, this scenario

showing there's a history of bullshitting all over this show

[TimTimSalabim]

Everything's a work? So that means Fez is actually a poon hound and in perfect health?

[spoon]

Not by me, no way...but to say this show doesn't do it is crazy.

[deliciousV]

Not by me, no way...but to say this show doesn't do it is crazy.

Nobody is saying they don't do it. But I'm saying, and this is just my opinion, they are not doing it now. The show will change in a dramatic way on Jan 6, if Fez can keep up, he will stay, if not, he will be gone.
I may be proven wrong, if so, we'll all find out together.

[spoon]

V, is seemed that was exactly what you were saying

[deliciousV]

V, is seemed that was exactly what you were saying

I've reread, and I think I was pretty clear. I know they have done, and do continue to do "works", I said, and continue to believe that what is happening now is not a work.

[Dell]

I've reread, and I think I was pretty clear. I know they have done, and do continue to do "works", I said, and continue to believe that what is happening now is not a work.

I believe some things were decided a priori and well in progress, like the channel change...they decided to handle it as a full-up "work" with a lot of drama building up to Ron's "big decision" (including that crazy story about a psychiatrist that required Fez to have a psych test during on-air hours before accepting the piles of cash Fez wanted to give him)

however, the strained relationship between Ron and Fez and the frustrations and emotions that resulted on-air during the overall "work" were "straight shoots" (as Ron said over and over)...there is always a chance that real things are going to happen when executing the long con

well, that's my opinion...

[fezident]

Did anybody here ever use the word "shoot", before they heard Ron say it?

[Dell]

Did anybody here ever use the word "shoot", before they heard Ron say it?

never heard it before Ron...always assumed it was a carney term or a grifting term

[sailor]

never heard it before Ron...always assumed it was a carney term or a grifting term

It's a wrestling term. Sam uses it a lot as well.

[LeedsJr]

It's a wrestling term. Sam uses it a lot as well.

Yeah, I've heard/used it regarding wrestling going back to the 80's.

[Billy Staples]

I'm not a psychic out anything, but it seems to me that because Ron is handling three shows and he has a
reasonably good reputation with management, the agents of his guests, and the like, April 6th isn't just Fez's deadline. The idea is the RawDog SiriusXM Comedy Hits 99 will become "The Ron Bennington Channel" where he gets the right to program his own channel, hire people, etc.

hire people, etc.[/QUOTE]

ojh please please please....



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[KC2OSO]

I'm not a psychic out anything, but it seems to me that because Ron is handling three shows and he has a
reasonably good reputation with management, the agents of his guests, and the like, April 6th isn't just Fez's deadline. The idea is the RawDog SiriusXM Comedy Hits 99 will become "The Ron Bennington Channel" where he gets the right to program his own channel, hire people, etc.

Thank you.

[STD]

Just heard the whole debacle from earlier this month. I can't believe Ron's been dealing with that craziness this long. Hope the Raw Dog thing works out for him.

[spoon]

Just heard the whole debacle from earlier this month. I can't believe Ron's been dealing with that craziness this long. Hope the Raw Dog thing works out for him.

dude's better half finally speaks

[emrysx]

Wow. Wow. I'm years behind on the show. Been a while since I've been able to listen live. Currently listening to August of 2010...

I intentionally stay away from this board and other R&F news to avoid spoilers. I'm slightly OCD in wanting to listen to every single day, even if it takes me 10 years to catch up.

I knew about Fez coming out, and have been really looking for the show to turn a corner once that happens, whenever I get there.

Now I see the show's moved, and Fez never got better, and that dynamic is basically the same as it was in Aug 2013, where I'm at. Fucking ugh.

I love the show, Ronnie B, and Fezzie, but man this is disheartening to hear things never got better. Well, I'll keep listening in my little time machine, but wow. :unsure:

[jennysmurf]

Keep at it, buddy. Since they've moved to Raw Dog, I've noticed a definite upturn. You've got a lot to go through first, but don't give up on them.

[CountryBob]

Wow. Wow. I'm years behind on the show. Been a while since I've been able to listen live. Currently listening to August of 2010...

I intentionally stay away from this board and other R&F news to avoid spoilers. I'm slightly OCD in wanting to listen to every single day, even if it takes me 10 years to catch up.

I knew about Fez coming out, and have been really looking for the show to turn a corner once that happens, whenever I get there.

Now I see the show's moved, and Fez never got better, and that dynamic is basically the same as it was in Aug 2013, where I'm at. Fucking ugh.

I love the show, Ronnie B, and Fezzie, but man this is disheartening to hear things never got better. Well, I'll keep listening in my little time machine, but wow. :unsure:

just jump in now and don't worry about catching up.

[thepaulo]

Wow. Wow. I'm years behind on the show. Been a while since I've been able to listen live. Currently listening to August of 2010...

I intentionally stay away from this board and other R&F news to avoid spoilers. I'm slightly OCD in wanting to listen to every single day, even if it takes me 10 years to catch up.

I knew about Fez coming out, and have been really looking for the show to turn a corner once that happens, whenever I get there.

Now I see the show's moved, and Fez never got better, and that dynamic is basically the same as it was in Aug 2013, where I'm at. Fucking ugh.

I love the show, Ronnie B, and Fezzie, but man this is disheartening to hear things never got better. Well, I'll keep listening in my little time machine, but wow. :unsure:

Stick to your plan, man.

[spoon]

switch to wabc with wf and hate anyone not like him

[keithy_19]

switch to wabc with wf and hate anyone not like him

I just listen to wfan and wonder how Francesa has a show.