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TheMojoPin

02-03-2005, 05:39 PM

Alright, I fucking love this show. Outside of "Homicide," made by a ton of the same people, it's easily my favorite TV drama of all time.

Season 3 wrapped earlier this year, even though HBO was SUPPOSED to have announced whether or not it would be back for a 4th season at this point, they're almost two weeks late with said announcement.

So, along comes this this push...SAVE "THE WIRE!!!" (http://facsrv.cti.depaul.edu/~amorris/wire/)

If you're into the show, great, do what you can. If you're not, hey, click a few links. Help a brotha out. The writers have always had a 5 season plan, so if they were able to get to that, well, that would rule.

Anyone else here into this show?

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Kevin

02-03-2005, 05:41 PM

Yea i love that show Mojo. Its fantastic <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Kevin2700" border="0" /> Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

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mikeyboy

02-03-2005, 05:42 PM

You know these things almost never work, right? Even when they do, it's almost always just a slight extension of the show.

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Kevin

02-03-2005, 05:44 PM

Yea they really sadly don't

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Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

TheMojoPin

02-03-2005, 05:45 PM

Well, the online petitions typically don't mean shit...but hey, why not? It takes a minute or two, tops. And HBO is big on online surveys about their show and programming, indicating they seem to have more of an eye/ear on it as an outlet for viewer response, much more so than the regular networks. They're shows have relied on being "slow-burners" or surviving on word of mouth.

More importantly, the link has decent ideas and contacts for a snail mail campaign, which often DO work.

And with HBO, it's always been all or nothing. Either a show gets re-upped or it's dumped.

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Death Metal Moe

02-03-2005, 05:45 PM

I can't make out the show inbetween the snow and squiggles. Who's in that one again?

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02-03-2005, 05:46 PM

I didn't say I wouldn't help, I'm just saying...

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Snoogans

02-03-2005, 05:46 PM

works or not, its The Wire, you have to fuckin try to save it

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Snoogans

02-03-2005, 05:48 PM

also its nice to see chris childs took time out from eating and watching basketball to sign this petition, as well has current NBA star Ray Allen

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TheMojoPin

02-03-2005, 05:49 PM

And they use a great Tom Waits song over the opening credits, "Way Down In The Hole."

This series has everything!

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Melrapuo

02-03-2005, 05:50 PM

Signed. I can't believe they're trying to get rid of it. That show is amazing.

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02-03-2005, 05:54 PM

yea signd

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Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

TheMojoPin

02-03-2005, 05:59 PM

***NSFW LINK***

Besides, you don't get see some nice tig ol' bitties like this on weak-ass network TV. If you don't do it for me, DO IT FOR THE TITS, DAMMIT! (http://www.free-nude-galleries-a-z.com/celebs/020fe/KristinProctor1rvidc345.jpg)

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Snoogans

02-03-2005, 06:00 PM

after that, im now fully convinced Kevin is WNEWstinks

there cant be 2 people that bad at spelling

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Kevin

02-03-2005, 06:00 PM

Ah yes Mojo i remeber that. Very nice Rack. Poor ol Frank Sobatka.

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Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

Kevin

02-03-2005, 06:01 PM

no i just do not pay that much attention.

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Death Metal Moe

02-03-2005, 06:03 PM

You see, I don't need HBO now. Someone will always post shit like this on the internet.

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mikeyboy

02-03-2005, 06:04 PM

some nice tig ol' bitties

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TheMojoPin

02-03-2005, 06:07 PM

Man, that ain't theirs.

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TheMojoPin

02-05-2005, 01:45 PM

DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!

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torker

02-05-2005, 01:51 PM

DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!

Do it for the childwin, not with.
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TheMojoPin

02-16-2005, 07:55 AM

I won't let this die!

HELP OUT OR OMAR THE HOMOTHUG WILL BE COMING FO' YO' ASSSSSSS!!!

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TheMojoPin

03-18-2005, 05:46 AM

"Drink up and die right, you cunts!"

It's official..."The Wire" has been renewed by HBO! (http://www.hbo.com/thewire/news/season_four.shtml)

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03-18-2005, 06:09 AM

Nice!!!

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03-18-2005, 06:51 AM

I told Mojo this damn thing would work. But noooooooo he kept on bitching and crying on how these patitions do not work. Listen to me next time damn it.

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Snoogans

03-18-2005, 01:05 PM

you are goddamn right its been renewed. with all the shitty arliss type shows HBO made, you know they arent gonna actually cancel a good one

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TheMojoPin

03-18-2005, 05:11 PM

Now if it got just half the promotion the other shows did, we'd be getting somewhere...

"Carnivale" seems to prove that the more promotion HBO gives a show, the more unbelievably shitty it is...

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tbonesteak

08-12-2005, 09:17 AM

I can't fucking wait for the next season of the Wire.  I've be re-watching the last 3 seasons and it's without a doubt the best show on television.  Great characters!  Excellent writing!  I've been a fan since they first aired the show and it seems to get better every season.  I have one question that I'm hoping someone can answer, however, because it's been bugging me for a long time.  At the end of the final episode of Season 1, there is a montage where they are showing where everyone ended up.  What is the song playing during that montage?  It goes some thing like:If I'm late, don't wait, go on without me...I have a cured ham waiting for anyone who can supply me with the correct answer.

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TheMojoPin

08-12-2005, 09:49 AM

You want "Wire" info?  Come to the source, my man...The song is called "Step By Step," by Jesse Winchester, off the album Let The Rough Side Drag.I NEED THAT SEASON 3 DVD OUT NOW!!!

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08-13-2005, 08:57 AM

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Knowledged_one

08-15-2005, 03:50 AM

The way it is shaping up is The Sopranos at 9 followed by The Wire at 10 for JanuaryThis season is the role of the educational system, i just don't know if McNulty is going to be back or not

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TheMojoPin

08-15-2005, 06:45 AM

He is, but only in a few episodes.  And that also applies to some of the other members of the squad, but the series already shifted in that direction for the 3rd season.  I liked how they wrapped up McNulty's storylines at the end of season 3, so him not being the focus (which he really wasn't in season 3 to begin with) is fine by me.  I can't fucking wait, and I'm hoping and praying it does well enough to get to the planned final seaosn 5.

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Servo

08-16-2005, 07:45 AM

I know their storyline ended in season 2, but I wanna know what became of Ziggy and Nick Sobotka.  And I'm going to miss Jimmy-fuckin'-McNulty.

tbonesteak

08-16-2005, 09:08 AM

I'd like to see them bring back the Sabotka's as well.  Nick and Ziggy were good characters and I was surprised to see them dropped like that.  I was also surprised that they didn't develop the supply aspect of the drug trade by exploring the Greeks in season 3.  They left a lot of things unresolved with the Greeks after season 2 and you would think that they were going to play a bigger part.  But besides knowing that Prop Joe was still getting his dope from the Greeks, they didn't do anything with that aspect. I thought that Marlow was a good character and I wonder whether he's going to play a big part in the next season.  The only people I wouldn't bring back are Carcetti and Cutty.  Carcetti became sort of annoying towards the end and Cutty just didn't hold my attention.  He was a good character but I was never really all that interested.I would hate to see McNulty leave, but I have a feeling he's going to play a bigger part then you think.  I really don't trust a lot of the press that comes out of HBO anymore.  They are always coming up with something to get people talking and it never seems to happen the way you expect.  Let's just wait and see.....

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Knowledged_one

08-16-2005, 09:59 AM

I think the whole drug trade thing is finished with unless that will be the central crux of the 5 season story arc.  But they won't return to the greeks because the story in season 2 was the effect of the docks and harbor on the working man while still bringing in the drug stuff as part of the mix.Season 2 also set up the start of the major crimes unit which is what the group in season 3 was about.  So by that standard Bunk wasn't a member of that unit and McNulty could just be a cameo appearance.  I really like the evolution of the Prezbyluzki (however you spell that polish name) after he hit his uncle.Also the story about the head of the eastern unit being in the gay bar wtf was that about. Plus they need to bring back Omar - the hardest gay gangster ever

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TheMojoPin

08-16-2005, 12:11 PM

Omar's my favorite character, but they wrapped him up pretty neatly at the end of season 3.  They "ended" guys like him and McNulty so well that I would have no problem with them not coming back."The Greek" should never be caught.  He's presented as anonymous as a symbol of the futility of the drug war itself.  He's almost like a force of nature.  His getting away is the basic point of the show..."America is losing its war on drugs.  Here's why."Carcetti will definitely be back, since the focus on the school districts will definitely dwell on local politics.  Cutty will probably be back, too, since h's dating that woman who works at the school, and he's focusing on trying to keep the neighborhood kids safe and away from the gangs and drugs.  It's clear he'll be back and majorly involved...look how they've introduced characters like his seemingly low key (like Major "Bunny" in season 2) and then blew them up big time down the line.The drug trade will still be there...that neverending cycle is the core of the show.  Just with Stringer Bell gone and his crew shattered, it'll take time to focus on all the crews that move in to pick up the pieces.And what's to know about Ziggy?  He's in jail for the rest of his life getting knocked up the cornhole on a regular basis.  And Nick is forever going to live looking over his shoulder because he testified.  They're done.

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tbonesteak

08-17-2005, 12:46 PM

quote: Omar's my favorite character, but they wrapped him up pretty neatly at the end of season 3.  They "ended" guys like him and McNulty so well that I would have no problem with them not coming back."The Greek" should never be caught.  He's presented as anonymous as a symbol of the futility of the drug war itself.  He's almost like a force of nature.  His getting away is the basic point of the show..."America is losing its war on drugs.  Here's why."Carcetti will definitely be back, since the focus on the school districts will definitely dwell on local politics.  Cutty will probably be back, too, since h's dating that woman who works at the school, and he's focusing on trying to keep the neighborhood kids safe and away from the gangs and drugs.  It's clear he'll be back and majorly involved...look how they've introduced characters like his seemingly low key (like Major "Bunny" in season 2) and then blew them up big time down the line.The drug trade will still be there...that neverending cycle is the core of the show.  Just with Stringer Bell gone and his crew shattered, it'll take time to focus on all the crews that move in to pick up the pieces.And what's to know about Ziggy?  He's in jail for the rest of his life getting knocked up the cornhole on a regular basis.  And Nick is forever going to live looking over his shoulder because he testified.  They're done.Nice points Mojo.  I agree that Carcetti and Cutty will probably play large roles in the new season.  I'm just not sure if I like them enough yet.  I also agree that the drug trade will always be the bag-bone of the show.  I imagine they will follow Avon and parts of his crew through their prison experience.  They have to.  And that will probably lead them into a greater focus on the prison system and how it interacts with and in some ways mirrors the educational system.  They didn't really do much with the prison system the last time they were all in jail and I bet it plays a bigger part this season. 

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TheMojoPin

08-17-2005, 05:45 PM

Avon seemed done.  Think back to when he was arrested after Stringer was killed...he had given up on EVERYTHING.  And without him and Stringer, his organization as we knew it is done.What I would like to see are guys like Bodie and Slim Charles trying to start their own crews, and them competeing or allying with guys like Prop Joe or Marlowe.  There's still PLENTY to follow with the 'bangers and the narco biz.  But the main targets are dead or in jail, so they won't be as focused upon as before.Mainly, I want The Bunk still around.  THE BUNK RULES.

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Knowledged_one

08-19-2005, 04:23 AM

Who will sing the new version for Down in the HoleSeason 1 - Five Blind Boys from AlabamaSeason 2 - Tom WaitsSeason 3 - Aaron NevilleSeasoin 4 - ? - I think Citizen Cope would do a great job plus he is a local baltimore guy

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TheMojoPin

08-19-2005, 06:29 AM

The Neville Brothers' version has been the only one done exclusively for the show, but there are still other cover versions of Waits' song out there to be used...one by a great, GREAT band called The Compulsive Gamblers, and I'll lay money that'll be the one we hear this season, though I wouldn't mind alwats using Waits' original version.

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TheMojoPin

06-11-2006, 03:15 PM

Season 3 is getting replayed, starting TONIGHT at 8 PM, leading up to season 4 this fall!  Watch it, nephew!

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06-11-2006, 03:18 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Season 3 is getting replayed, starting TONIGHT at 8 PM, leading up to season 4 this fall!  Watch it, nephew! Bumping old and useless threads will get your ass banned.  Watch it mister.

PapaBear

06-11-2006, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the heads up, Mojo! I've been trying to find out when it would be back for months.

runnerkid

06-13-2006, 07:09 AM

I heard an interview with the writer on NPR a while ago, and I think season 4 is gonna focus on the public schools. I can't wait.

mikeyboy

06-13-2006, 07:26 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Season 3 is getting replayed, starting TONIGHT at 8 PM, leading up to season 4 this fall!  Watch it, nephew! I've been meaning to check out this show based on Mojo's recommendations and because it seems like the type of show I would like.  I decided that the start of Season 3 was a good opportunity to jump in.  I might have had to high expectations for the show, but it didn't grab me at all.  I assume that will change some if I log a few episodes to get to know the characters, but still the episode seemed kind of flat to me.  Was that episode a typical one.  Is enjoying the show dependent on knowing the characters?  Is it too late to jump in.  I'm probably not going to wade through 3 full seasons in prep for season 4.

UnknownPD

06-13-2006, 07:44 AM

Whew...I thought they'd spent all their money on lucky louie

TheMojoPin

06-13-2006, 08:41 AM

mikeyboy wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Season 3 is getting replayed, starting TONIGHT at 8 PM, leading up to season 4 this fall!  Watch it, nephew! I've been meaning to check out this show based on Mojo's recommendations and because it seems like the type of show I would like.  I decided that the start of Season 3 was a good opportunity to jump in.  I might have had to high expectations for the show, but it didn't grab me at all.  I assume that will change some if I log a few episodes to get to know the characters, but still the episode seemed kind of flat to me.  Was that episode a typical one.  Is enjoying the show dependent on knowing the characters?  Is it too late to jump in.  I'm probably not going to wade through 3 full seasons in prep for season 4.For better or for worse, you absolutely cannot pick the show up anywhere except season 1 and go from there.  This has been true for pretty much all of the HBO dramas, but especially with this one.  The whole thing has been paced and written with the idea you're there from day 1 until the end.  There aren't any jumping on points...it's essentially going to end up being a 60+ hour movie when it finally wraps up (and if they get the planned final fifth season).  Honestly, if you're not interested in checking out the previous seasons, I can pretty much guarentee what's playing now will never grab you.  On top of that, I think the previous seasons, especially the 2nd, are much, MUCH better than the 3rd.  The 3rd acts as more of a wrap-up for the characters we followed in season 1, but ended up in the background during season 2.

El Mudo

06-13-2006, 09:07 AM

I'm so glad I'm FINALLY able to watch the third season, which I haven't been able to see...I didn't have HBO during that season, and for some reason, it's not out on DVD...

Looking forward to finally catching up

And like Mojo says, you just can't come into the third season and expect to have any sort of idea as to what's going on

JimBeam

07-15-2006, 08:17 PM

I just spent the last 2 days watching all 13 episodes on HBO On Demand.It sucks because I think I now have to wait until August for them to change it to Season 2.Now let me ask something, without getting any hints to the next 2 seasons, but do they pick up where they left off or do they go onto a whole new case ?No details please just top line.Great show and I'm not sure why I never got into it when it started.I think the thing that I judged when I first saw the previews was that DeAngelo, who I'll always see as the kicker from The Waterboy, was supposed to be a tought guy and I didnt think that would fly.I didnt know his character would be so " complex ".How is that one kid, who played a grown man for 5 years in Oz, supposed to pass as a 16 year old ?Thats the one thing I think they screwed up.Great cast. I think they work together as good as the people on Deadwood.

Earlshog

07-16-2006, 08:02 AM

I have been rewatching season one with my grilfriend. One thing I missed was how great Rawls is. I guess to me he was overshadowed by all the other amazing characters.  The guy is money. Not only is he great busting everyones ball (mostly McNulty) he is phemonial in the scene when Kema gets shot.

ChimneyFish

07-16-2006, 09:18 AM

I just recorded the first 4 episodes of season 1 yesterday.I'm going to crack open a few beers and enjoy in a few hours.I remember catching a couple of episodes on demand a few summers ago, and I have wanted to see it from the beginning.

JimBeam

07-16-2006, 11:06 AM

Thats why DVRs/TiVo and On Demand are so clutch.I watched episodes 3-8 Friday night while wacking down a few Miller High Lifes ( or would it be High Lives ?? ). and then finished watching it last night.I dont know if I wanna wait for HBO On Demand to put up season 2 or if I'm just gonna go rent it on DVD.

ChimneyFish

07-22-2006, 03:26 PM

JimBeam wrote: Thats why DVRs/TiVo and On Demand are so clutch.I watched episodes 3-8 Friday night while wacking down a few Miller High Lifes ( or would it be High Lives ?? ). and then finished watching it last night.I dont know if I wanna wait for HBO On Demand to put up season 2 or if I'm just gonna go rent it on DVD.That's where I'm at. I've watched 1-6, starting 7-whatever I can get to before having to pass out.I wonder if season 2 will be on right after, because season 1 ends some time in August.(I forget the exact date)

JimBeam

07-24-2006, 10:00 AM

My On Demand said that the current episodes were available until 8/6 I think.Hopefully that means 8/7 Season 2 will be available.Do they ever go into how Stringer and Avon became tight ?Are they related ?

Earlshog

07-24-2006, 10:22 AM

JimBeam wrote: My On Demand said that the current episodes were available until 8/6 I think.Hopefully that means 8/7 Season 2 will be available.Do they ever go into how Stringer and Avon became tight ?Are they related ?Avon and String reminisce a little towards the end of season 3

saveopieanthony.net

07-24-2006, 11:09 AM

I saw the first season and thought it was cool..but only got through the first disc of season 2...does it get better or no?

TheMojoPin

07-24-2006, 11:12 AM

I'm gonna say yes since I think season 2 is the best one of all, but there are a lot of people who couldn't stand it because the gangbangers weren't the focus anymore.

Earlshog

07-24-2006, 11:16 AM

season one and two both start kinda slow cause they are developing  thecharacters. In my opinion they were both great. Season three jumps off a little quicker as you already know most of the players

JimBeam

07-24-2006, 11:31 AM

If you're saying that Season 1 is slower than the rest I'm gonna love the next few.I thought season 1 was awesome and I was hoping that the next few wouldnt disappoint.I so wanna go rent them but I've gotta just be patient and wait for on demand.Do they ever show that woman McNulty hooked up with, at his kid's school function, naked ?She was kinda hot.

This message was edited by JimBeam on 7-24-06 @ 3:32 PM

Earlshog

07-24-2006, 01:12 PM

JimBeam wrote: If you're saying that Season 1 is slower than the rest I'm gonna love the next few.I thought season 1 was awesome and I was hoping that the next few wouldnt disappoint.I so wanna go rent them but I've gotta just be patient and wait for on demand.Do they ever show that woman McNulty hooked up with, at his kid's school function, naked ?She was kinda hot.This message was edited by JimBeam on 7-24-06 @ 3:32 PM not the whole season just the first few episodes were slow... season

JimBeam

07-24-2006, 01:33 PM

What about the chick ?I did see that she was in another episode, in Season 3, so I'm guessing she becomes a regular.

JimBeam

07-26-2006, 02:28 PM

I just confirmed on HBO.com that in August On Demand will be showing both Seasons 2 & 3.Catch all three seasons of The Wire before the new season begins on <a href="http://www.hbo.com/hboondemand/index.html">HBO on Demand</a>. Season 1 (July) and Seasons 2 & 3 (August). <a href="http://www.hbo.com/thewire/" target="_blank">http://www.hbo.com/thewire/</a>

JimBeam

07-29-2006, 09:36 AM

I've been jonesing to watch this so badly that I almost went out and rented the dvds.2 more days and the 5 bucks I spend on HBO On Demand will be worth it again.

JimBeam

08-12-2006, 01:19 PM

So I'm almost through with season 2 and I think I'm gonna go into withdrawls.Good thing is I think On Demand is showing Season 3 starting this week.So far I havent enjoyed season 2 as much as season 1 but it's still been a great show.Sucked to see D'Angelo get killed. In a way I felt bad for him but I kinda felt that way in the first season.I also thought that the kid who escaped from juvey in the first season ( Wangler from Oz ) was kinda turning into a " nice guy " too when he was preaching that they didnt need to beat people up in order to do business.But then he goes out and gets involved in a shootout that winds up killing a kid.I wanna strangle Ziggy like you do not believe.That scene with McNulty and the prostitutes was hilarious." There was 2 of them. I was outnumbered> "

JimBeam

08-13-2006, 08:00 AM

OK so now I'm finished w/ Season 2.I have a few questions :<ul><li><div>Do they ever go back and address anything regarding The Greek, Ziggy, Niko, or Russell ( the Port cop ) ?</div></li><li><div>Was the FBI guy tipping off he Greek dirty or was he just protecting him as a source ?</div></li></ul>Pretty good season, I liked the way they gave us a differnt plot line, even if it wasnt as compelling as the first one.

ChimneyFish

08-13-2006, 12:12 PM

Are they showing season 2 on demand????I just got done watching season one last night(I had the last three episodes taped)

JimBeam

08-14-2006, 09:48 AM

Yeah they just started showing Season 2 last week.Today they are showing Season 3.You can watch both season 2 & 3 until sometime in early Sept.

ChimneyFish

08-14-2006, 10:09 AM

JimBeam wrote: Yeah they just started showing Season 2 last week.Today they are showing Season 3.You can watch both season 2 & 3 until sometime in early Sept.Very nice.I have to rewatch thew last episode of 1. It was 4am, and I was very drunk, so I don't remember what happened.

Earlshog

08-14-2006, 11:39 AM

It was 4am, and I was very drunk, so I don't remember what happened. that sounds like someone trying to explain there wives black eye... The stars of season two... Prop Joe and Brother Muzzone...

TheMojoPin

08-14-2006, 11:48 AM

JimBeam wrote: OK so now I'm finished w/ Season 2.I have a few questions :<ul><li>*>Do they ever go back and address anything regarding The Greek, Ziggy, Niko, or Russell ( the Port cop ) ? <div /></li><li>*>Was the FBI guy tipping off he Greek dirty or was he just protecting him as a source ? <div /></li></ul>Pretty good season, I liked the way they gave us a differnt plot line, even if it wasnt as compelling as the first one.1.  The Greek is gone.  He is supposed to represent the kind of crime in general that won't ever be stopped by "local" police work buried under mountains of red tape.  Ziggy is off to jail and we've yet to see him again.  When you boil it down, there's not much left to tell.  He fucked up, his cousin is the witness protection program (also not yet seen again) and his dad is dead.  There's really not much story left to tell with Ziggy.  Sure, we could see what happens to him in prison...but what's the point?  It would mean nothing.2.  The FBI guy was dirty.

JimBeam

08-14-2006, 12:14 PM

I got the impression that the FBI guy wasnt dirty but that he was more worried about losing an informant.I think maybe the Greek threw him a bone every now and again and he got " protection " for that.I only thought that when the FBI guy thats friends w/ McNulty was surpised that the guy wasnt in San Diego and that he was in DC.He knew that that was how the info was getting leaked and he seemed more ashamed than pissed that they guy was bad.I think he knew that they'd rather trade info on terrorism, like seizing the drugs in the paint pellets, than any drugs/stealing.I'm thinking the FBI guy had the Greek and his people listed as Confidential Informants and thats why anytime there names came up on the computer he got an altert.

zildjian361

08-14-2006, 05:42 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: I won't let this die! HELP OUT OR OMAR THE HOMOTHUG WILL BE COMING FO' YO' ASSSSSSS!!! <img src="http://www.citypaper.com/sb/38583/wire-omar.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 <> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."           this show has been as close to the Soprano's and the Michal Chiless show those straigt up dirty cops on FX any way this show is the shit.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/cool.gif" border="0" />

TheMojoPin

08-14-2006, 05:43 PM

JimBeam wrote: I got the impression that the FBI guy wasnt dirty but that he was more worried about losing an informant.I think maybe the Greek threw him a bone every now and again and he got " protection " for that.I only thought that when the FBI guy thats friends w/ McNulty was surpised that the guy wasnt in San Diego and that he was in DC.He knew that that was how the info was getting leaked and he seemed more ashamed than pissed that they guy was bad.I think he knew that they'd rather trade info on terrorism, like seizing the drugs in the paint pellets, than any drugs/stealing.I'm thinking the FBI guy had the Greek and his people listed as Confidential Informants and thats why anytime there names came up on the computer he got an altert.Hey, you've sold it to me.  Good catch.

El Mudo

08-15-2006, 01:27 AM

I'm thinking the FBI guy had the Greek and his people listed as Confidential Informants and thats why anytime there names came up on the computer he got an altert.

That was what I'm thinking too...with the Feds newfound committment on Terror, The Greek probably had some good stuff

And remember, the Greek admitted he wasn't greek...by the way he works his worry beads, I assume he is of Middle Eastern descent, possibly Turkish, which would make him even more valuable in this day and age

I just got done with Season 3...loved every minute

I feel bad for Major Colvin

JimBeam

08-17-2006, 10:18 AM

I'm about 1/3 of the way through Season 3.I hope you didnt ruin it for me w/ Bunny Colvin because I was starting to dig him.( Loved when he was at the lunch to discuss the job at Johns Hopkins after he retires and he said that the guy might have " taken a dookie ". I laughed out liud on that one ).I thought maybe HBO had screwed up with the numbering of the episodes because Season 3 seems to start right in the middle of a sting operation.Back to Season 2 I thought maybe they'd catch the Greek when they found the beads. That was kinda weak since they weren't gonna followup on it.Also I totally didnt realize that the one black dude from Season 1, not Herc's buddy, wasnt in Season 2 at all. Now he's back in Season 3.Plus where'd that lasy thats working the stakeour building come from ?The heavy black lady ?

TheMojoPin

08-17-2006, 12:14 PM

The heavy woman was added in the off-season.  Not a huge deal, she's just someone who can man the office when the others need to hit the streets and monitor the calls.  She's not a terribly important character, and giving her an introduction wouldn't have been a good use of time.  It makes sense that they would have added someone to basically run the office and help keep things organized.It's best to forget the Greek.  Like I said, he needs to get away because of what he represents.  David Simon's main point with this series is that the "big issues" will never be brought down with the way the Drug War is run at this point.  Guys like the Greek are going to slip away every time...he's almost ethereal.  Hence why he's never even named...The show was supposed to start in the middle of that first episode stakeout.  The show's universe kept on going during all the off-season...Daniel's squad now has a repuation positive enough that the various district commanders want to use them to help in their districts, hence the ongoing investigation into Prop Joe when the season opens.  As McNulty makes clear, however, they're not really tackling the big cases being loaned out like this.  They're just nitpicking at the corners (sometimes literally) instead of trying to build big cases.  Though at the same time, McNulty himself is showing he's out of touch by being obessed with Avon and Stringer and completely ignoring that new gang leaders like Marlowe are coming up and taking over.

JimBeam

08-17-2006, 12:43 PM

I'd like to strangle that Marlowe clown.Up until this point I havent really disliked any characters but, and although he's got such a small role, Colvin's Lt annoys me. Just something about him.Oh also the weasely councilman, running for mayor, is another one.While I'm at it Avon's lawyer needs to get it.Does anything bad happen to him in Season 3 ?I love the exchanges between Herc and Carver. They work well together.

El Mudo

08-17-2006, 01:14 PM

Levy was effectively destroyed by Omar in court in Season Two in the Bird trial...

My single favorite moment of the entire series

Snoogans

08-17-2006, 02:25 PM

ive been watchin all the old ones, cause its been so long since Ive seen it. I can't wait, perfect way to follow entourage

TheMojoPin

08-17-2006, 07:18 PM

JimBeam wrote: I'd like to strangle that Marlowe clown.Up until this point I havent really disliked any characters but, and although he's got such a small role, Colvin's Lt annoys me. Just something about him.Oh also the weasely councilman, running for mayor, is another one.While I'm at it Avon's lawyer needs to get it.Does anything bad happen to him in Season 3 ?I love the exchanges between Herc and Carver. They work well together.  Colvin's Lt. is one of the many real cops working with and/or on the show.  His name is Jay Landsman, and he was one of the major characters in David Simon's book Homicide: A Year On The Killing Streets., which was the basis for the Homicide TV series.  Landsman was the main basis for Richard Belzer's John Munch character on the show.  To make things even more confusing, the fat shift sergeant in the homicide unit on The Wire is named Jay Landsman intribute to the real Landsman...who they ended up casting on the show anyway.  Personally, I love the guy.  You're not gonna find a truer Bal'mer accent on the show.Carcetti is pretty universally loathed by most viewers.  I'm sort of indifferent to him.  I think he's a prick, and he is...he's just as shallow and manipulative as the other higher-ups and politicos on the show...he just does it "prettier."  But he's not supposed to be a "good guy," so hate away.  He's just there to throw the political stories into turmoil.Avon's lawyer stays healthy, but you barely see him in all of season 3.Don't get too attached to Herc and Carver...I just finished re-watching season 3 tonight and I can't fuckin' wait until September 10th.

TheMojoPin

08-17-2006, 07:19 PM

El Mudo wrote: Levy was effectively destroyed by Omar in court in Season Two in the Bird trial... My single favorite moment of the entire series Loved the tie!

JimBeam

08-19-2006, 10:05 AM

Mojo does this mean they aren't gonna be back for Season 4 ? :Don't get too attached to Herc and Carver...I'm on the last few episodes of Season 3 and speaking of Omar's tie I liked how he sent back the one cop's gun wrapped in the tie. Bunk says " Tell him I'm hoping to see him wearing this in court some day "The one thing I like about the show, with it being a police show, is there's rarely ( actually if ever as far as I can remember ) any shootings by the cops. A lot of oher shows, with loss plot and character, have to rely on that heavily.I've watched so far 32 epsiodes and only on the last one noticed that Tim van patten's name was in the credits.Was he there from the beginning ?

Servo

08-19-2006, 12:15 PM

JimBeam wrote: I've watched so far 32 epsiodes and only on the last one noticed that Tim van patten's name was in the credits.Was he there from the beginning ?I just finished re-watching season 2 and I noticed he directed at least one of those episodes.  Daniel Attias too, who directed episodes of Carnivale and Six Feet Under.I love this goddamn show.  Just consistently fantastic.  Mojo's right - the Bunk does indeed rule.Any word yet on who's doing "Way Down in the Hole" this season?

JimBeam

08-19-2006, 01:16 PM

I liked the Season 1 & 2 versions of the opening song but not the 3rd.Also there's an Ed Burns that's in the credits but thats not the actore right ?If I remember correctly this Ed Burns did a bunch of TV shows.Its wierd because a few weeks ago on Entourage Drama had the meeting with Ed Burns and I thought it was gonna be the Wire guy ( if they are in fact different people ) due to the tie to HBO but it really was the actor.I'm wondering if they're gonna stay w/ the Braksdale stuff this season or if they are gonna do a side story like in Season 2.

Servo

08-19-2006, 01:37 PM

No, the Ed Burns involved with The Wire is a former Baltimore homicide detective who then went on to become a public school teacher (probably much like we're going to see in season 4 - it looks like Prez follows a similar path.)  David Simon hooked up with him to write a book about Baltimore's drug trade ("The Corner", which HBO turned into a miniseries a few years ago.)They came out with a behind-the-scenes book last year called "Truth Be Told."  It's pretty cool - talks about how the show was created and the inspirations for a lot of the characters.

TheMojoPin

08-19-2006, 08:15 PM

JimBeam wrote: Mojo does this mean they aren't gonna be back for Season 4 ? : Don't get too attached to Herc and Carver...  Oh, they'll be back...I just doubt they'll be partners.Good point about the cops not shooting much.  That was a huge point in Homicide the show and the book...real police simply don't shoot at people a lot.I doubt we'll see too much Barksdale action in season 4...Avon seems finished at the end.  Though Bodie and Slim Charles are still out there...the focus is on the schools and how they're being destroyed and how the drug game sucks these kids in.  Marlowe and his crew are gonna be the main baddies, but I'd be shocked if we didn't see some other new faces as "villains."And Tom's right, the tie-in book is fantastic.

El Mudo

08-19-2006, 08:37 PM

I wonder whats going to happen to the scraps of Avon's empire?

Who's going to run it? The only one I could think of to really take it over is Avon's sister, who is still understandably wacked out by what happened to D Angelo...Slim Charles is nothing but muscle, and Bodie's just a mid level guy...I think itll probably just fold up into Marlowe's operation. It poses some thought, because Marlowe never bought into Prop Joe's and Stringers Cartel...where's he going to get his product from? The main reason the whole cartel got started was because Prop had access to the best stuff

I'd also like to see Cutty succeed...maybe he gets to Marlowe somehow? Not to wack him, but in regards to the evils of the Game

I also think music is used extremely well in the series...i loved the use of the Steve Earle song to wrap up season 2, and the one that wrapped up season 3 wasn't bad either

TheMojoPin

08-19-2006, 08:54 PM

Guys, the Barksdale storyline is done.  The majority of his crew are locked up or on the run.  We may see them here or there, but there's no Barksdale "empire" left to run if anyone even wanted to.  Avon's sister was done once she realized what probably happened to her son.  Besides, between Prop Joe and co. and Marlowe and his crew, the show would get too crowded dragging the Barksdale storyline past its prime.Avon and McNulty are both going to be very minor players in season 4...season 3 was designed to wrap both them up very nicely.  Change is afoot.

JimBeam

08-20-2006, 09:08 AM

Tom the book is about the behind the scenes of The Wire or the old show Homicide ? :book last year called "Truth Be Told."  Mojo I'm not looking forward to this. While the entire cast is fantastic McNulty is one of the best :Avon and McNulty are both going to be very minor players in season 4...season 3 was designed to wrap both them up very nicely.  Change is afoot.I think I'm down to 2 episodes left.I gotta say I didnt see the Rawls being gay coming.Was that D'Angelo's wife that Marlowe shot ( who had previously set him up ) ?I loved when McNulty went into that one out of town police station and assumed the guy was a redneck and totally acted like an ass. Good stuff.Also Rawls had a few good lines when Bunny told them all about his plan.And when Slim Charles was chastising Ricky Williams and that other thug " You shot off her shurch crown !! " & " A genuine colored woman. Do you know what a colored woman is ?

Servo

08-20-2006, 10:25 AM

JimBeam wrote: Tom the book is about the behind the scenes of The Wire or the old show Homicide ? It's about The Wire - it's a behind the scenes, plus an episode guide for seasons 1 and 2.

TheMojoPin

08-20-2006, 01:19 PM

JimBeam wrote: Tom the book is about the behind the scenes of The Wire or the old show Homicide ? : book last year called "Truth Be Told."   Mojo I'm not looking forward to this. While the entire cast is fantastic McNulty is one of the best :  Avon and McNulty are both going to be very minor players in season 4...season 3 was designed to wrap both them up very nicely.  Change is afoot.    He will still be around, don't worry, but after you see season 3 I think hopefully you'll see why him not being as a big a player actually feels right.  I think I'm down to 2 episodes left.I gotta say I didnt see the Rawls being gay coming.Yeah, that was pretty fucking funny...luckily, they don't go into it to much.  Just that one shot and that's it.  And not that I don't wanna see any more because he's gay...a guy like Rawls, I don't give a fuck what he does in his off time.  It shouldn't be a focus on the show, gay, straight or whatever.Was that D'Angelo's wife that Marlowe shot ( who had previously set him up ) ?No, though I made the same mistake when I first saw it.I loved when McNulty went into that one out of town police station and assumed the guy was a redneck and totally acted like an ass. Good stuff.Also Rawls had a few good lines when Bunny told them all about his plan.And when Slim Charles was chastising Ricky Williams and that other thug " You shot off her shurch crown !! " & " A genuine colored woman. Do you know what a colored woman is ?"Ricky Williams"...nice![/quote]

TheMojoPin

08-20-2006, 01:25 PM

This is the book Tom is talking about:<img height="500" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743497325.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1122946933_.jpg" width="500" border="0" />Though you'd probably love this, too...a lot of characters and scenes (including the very first scene of the series) and stories in The Wire come from this book:<img height="500" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0449908089.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1067918264_.jpg" width="500" border="0" />

Servo

08-21-2006, 06:10 AM

Anybody watch the two specials HBO aired last night at 7 and 7:30?  I missed the first one, caught the end of the second one.  Hopefully they'll replay them, or at least put them On Demand.    Looked pretty interesting. 

JimBeam

08-21-2006, 08:43 AM

Tom what were the specials ?I didnt see them.Down to one episode left.Just saw Stringer buy it.I kinda felt bad for him in a way but screw him. He got a lot of people killed.

TheMojoPin

08-21-2006, 12:18 PM

I saw the specials...good stuff, but the next 2-3 weeks are going to be agony!Stringer was doomed.  You can't change the game.

JimBeam

08-21-2006, 07:25 PM

OK so now I'm up to date.Things I liked about the final episode of Season 3 :<ul><li><div>That they seemed to kinda wrap McNutly up</div></li><li><div>That they seemed to wrap Omar up</div></li><li><div>That they had a cameo by the Port Authority cop from Season 2</div></li><li><div>That Avon's sister turned her back on him</div></li></ul>Things I didnt like :<ul><li><div>Seeing Daniel's ass</div></li><li><div>How Bunny got sold out</div></li><li><div>That Marlowe was left standing</div></li><li><div>Seeing Daniel's ass again</div></li><li><div>That Burrell played the mayor's game</div></li><li><div>Seeing Daniel's ass another time</div></li></ul>Questions :<ul><li><div>Was that Bubbles friend that ODed in the house ?</div></li><li><div>Why did Brother Muzone give Omar the small gun and say " do it right " ?</div></li><li><div>What happens to Boadie ?</div></li></ul>

TheMojoPin

08-21-2006, 07:55 PM

JimBeam wrote: OK so now I'm up to date.Things I liked about the final episode of Season 3 :<ul><li>*>That they seemed to kinda wrap McNutly up <div /></li><li>*>That they seemed to wrap Omar up <div /></li><li>*>That they had a cameo by the Port Authority cop from Season 2 <div /></li><li>*>That Avon's sister turned her back on him <div /></li></ul>Things I didnt like :<ul><li>*>Seeing Daniel's ass <div /></li><li>*>How Bunny got sold out <div /></li><li>*>That Marlowe was left standing <div /></li><li>*>Seeing Daniel's ass again <div /></li><li>*>That Burrell played the mayor's game <div /></li><li>*>Seeing Daniel's ass another time <div /></li></ul>Questions :<ul><li>*>Was that Bubbles friend that ODed in the house ? <div /></li><li>*>Why did Brother Muzone give Omar the small gun and say " do it right " ? <div /></li><li>*>What happens to Boadie ? <div /></li></ul>Yeah, that was Bubbles' buddie Johhny dead at the end.Brother Muzone wanted Omar to dispose of the gun since this was his home turf and he'd know where and how to do it without getting caught.Bodie's loose on the streets.  He's all over the previews for season 3 with Slim Charles.

JimBeam

08-22-2006, 09:41 AM

As I said the other day I kinda flet bad when Stringer got killed and I kinda felt the same way when Avon got busted ( especially when Marlowe came to gloat ).That just goes to show you how well they develop the characters. I dont ever find myself having compassion for the drug dealers in any other show/movie.Great show.I hope I like it as much now as I did in the past 3 seasons.

TheMojoPin

08-22-2006, 10:37 AM

That's part of the tragedy the show is tring to drive home...most of these guys running these gangs are really smart and even kinda likeable at times (Avon giving out the extra cash for Cutty's gym), but all of that is wasted on this stupid cycle of greed and violence.  It all starts when they're kids and it just spirals out of control.

JimBeam

08-28-2006, 08:47 AM

Commercial on HBO last night said that " for the first time ever " a show was going to be available On Demand before it's shown regularly.The 9/4 debut I guess is not the regularly scheduled episode.From the scenes they showed it appears as though Prez becomes a teacher ( as somebody had previoulsy stated ) and that Slim Charles is still in the picture.

JimBeam

09-01-2006, 09:01 AM

I saw the last few minutes of the second of those 2 The Wire behind the scenes/Season 4 previews.Pretty cool.It looks like Omar will be in the show at least a little bit ( sans cornrows but w/ shotgun ).Also the guy that played Warden Querns in Oz ( also was in that dreadful SWAT movie ) is gonna be on it this year.

TheMojoPin

09-01-2006, 09:07 AM

Omar's going to jail.Dum-dum-DUMMMMMMM.

Servo

09-03-2006, 10:17 PM

The Season Four premiere is running on HBO On Demand starting now!I just watched it -- very good.  It's pretty much a "where-are-they-now" episode, plus an introduction to some new characters, like the school kids the show is going to focus on this year.  I don't want to post too much spoiler-ish info about it before it actually airs, but I will say this - the new version of "Way Down in the Hole" blows.  Other than that, this season looks damn good.

This message was edited by Tom Servo on 9-4-06 @ 2:18 AM

TheMojoPin

09-04-2006, 03:24 AM

Does it say in the credits who sings the new version?  I was surprised they got the Neville Brothers to do a new version last time since there already 3-4 other cover versions already floating around.  My favorite one besides Waits' original is a version by a now defunct garage/blues band called The Compulsive Gamblers, and I was hoping they'd use theirs.

Snoogans

09-04-2006, 06:21 AM

watchin it now, i just rewatched all the old seasons. This was easily my favorite show before Entourage, and if it keeps up how it was going, i think it'll end up ahead of Entourage. From what I hear, they really did it up right this season

watson

09-04-2006, 10:20 AM

I cant wait to watch the premier tonight on HBO OnDemand!

JimBeam

09-04-2006, 08:00 PM

Watched the 2 preview shows and they were very cool.Pointed out that the show has a very black cast and that since its written so well people that would normally leave a show like that ( why I have no idea ) stick around.Also gave the importance/reason on why Stringer was killed off.A lot of informative stuff.Actually I didnt mind the new version of the song.Its definitely different but it kinda had a decent R&Bish sound which is not my normal cup of tea.The credits at the end listed 3 individual names ( one a female and none of which I recognized ) for the song. Maybe together they're a group thats more recognizeable.I think its an interesting path they're gonna take us down this seasonShould be great.Glad to see Bunny's back.

JimBeam

09-09-2006, 09:24 AM

Any idea on when the next episode will be available ?Will it be On Demand Monday night ?

PapaBear

09-10-2006, 11:22 PM

Just finished watching the premier. Loved it!BTW... Who else thinks the prospective Mayor is doing coke? 

This message was edited by PapaBear on 9-11-06 @ 4:17 AM

JimBeam

09-11-2006, 04:28 PM

Is the new episode on On Demand tonight ?

Earlshog

09-12-2006, 06:59 AM

PapaBear wrote: Just finished watching the premier. Loved it!BTW... Who else thinks the prospective Mayor is doing coke? This message was edited by PapaBear on 9-11-06 @ 4:17 AM Garciti did make that bump reference.  You know twhen they find all those bodies Marlow dumped (is that Hamsterdam) Bunk is catching the case. It will all be on the wire, they were saying they were sloppy.  Hopefully his boy McNulty will help him out.

JimBeam

09-12-2006, 09:07 AM

Does anybody think there's " anything " to the fact that the only image on the opening montage that's there from the first season is when they throw the rock at the security camera ?Just kinda wierd that that's still in there.

Fallon

09-13-2006, 09:49 PM

<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/80/Topic/43705/currentpage/" target="_self" title="HBO Reups The Wire for 5th, Final Season">HBO Reups The Wire for 5th, Final Season</a>

PapaBear

09-13-2006, 10:10 PM

Earlshog wrote: PapaBear wrote: Just finished watching the premier. Loved it!BTW... Who else thinks the prospective Mayor is doing coke? This message was edited by PapaBear on 9-11-06 @ 4:17 AM Garciti did make that bump reference.  You know twhen they find all those bodies Marlow dumped (is that Hamsterdam) Bunk is catching the case. It will all be on the wire, they were saying they were sloppy.  Hopefully his boy McNulty will help him out. The "bump" reference got me along with how he was doing the nostril sweep, when the picked him up from his house.

TheMojoPin

09-14-2006, 04:37 AM

Fallon wrote: <a title="HBO Reups The Wire for 5th, Final Season" href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/80/Topic/43705/currentpage/" target="_self">HBO Reups The Wire for 5th, Final Season</a> Man, your link is busted...don't tease me like that!

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 9-14-06 @ 8:37 AM

JimBeam

09-14-2006, 05:15 PM

Glad to see Bunny's back starting next episode.Went from John's Hopkins to MLK middle school or something.

TheMojoPin

09-15-2006, 06:34 AM

<a href="http://www.hbo.com/thewire/news/hborenews_thewire091306.shtml" target="_blank">OK, here's a working link to the official news of the 5th season.</a>Man, that is just so fucking awesome.  David Simon has been going since season 2 about how they've always had this 5 season epic mapped out if they got the chance to go that long, and it's beautiful they're getting a chance to tell that story.  I'm taking full credit for all this because of this thread.  I believed, dammit!So why was it renewed when the highest rated episode ever, the season 4 premier, only snagged in 1.5 million viewers, when Deadwood averages at least 3 million EVERY episode?  Well, HBO is running out of quality dramas...Deadwood is done after this season.  Rome is over after season 2.  Both shows are too expensive for HBO to keep running so they're backing out of them early.  The Sopranos is gone for good by next spring.  What's left?  Just Big Love.  HBO is going to be hurting to get some new dramas running, and The Wire is ridicuously cheap and being doused in praise.  Seriously, I've never seen a show get reviews this good over and over and over and over again:The New York Times said the show "is the closest that moving pictures have come so far to the depth and nuance of the novel." Daily Variety observed, "When television history is written, little else will rival THE WIRE," hailing the show for its "extraordinary depth and ambition." Entertainment Weekly called the series "a staggering achievement," while the Washington Post described it as "electrifying and disturbing...a gripping saga," and the New York Post termed it "the single finest piece of work ever produced for American TV."With the heaps of criticism being dropped on the show, hopefully it can take it's place as HBO's flagship drama for its final year and pull in the numbers it deserves, plus sell a ton of DVD's, too.Damn, I was I had On Demand...waiting a week is fucking KILLING me.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 9-15-06 @ 10:39 AM

Earlshog

09-15-2006, 06:53 AM

so wait you can watch next weeks episode if you have on demand?

JimBeam

09-15-2006, 07:53 AM

Yeah On Demand shows the new episode starting either Sunday or Monday.Not sure when it " really " airs.They are right. Its surely one of the best shows I've ever seen and I crammed all 3 seasons into a 6 week timeframe.I think maybe that made me have a better feel for it as opposed to watching it in installments over 4 years and maybe getting frustrated withthe delays.Great great show.Not as rewatchable as something like Seinfeld but stil la good show to come back to in a few years.

JimBeam

09-15-2006, 08:14 AM

Oh and in reagrds to the DVDs, I was in Circuit City the other day and they wanted $95 each for Season 1 & Season 2.How's that possible ?I got 2 seasons of Seinfeld, which includes 40+ episodes, for 80 total.No way I'd pay $ 95 for 13 episodes.I mean I know you can research and find it cheaper but thats gotta be close to the MSRP

TheMojoPin

09-15-2006, 09:04 AM

<a href="http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=the+wire" target="_blank">Link to MUCH better prices for new DVD's and free shipping.</a>

Servo

09-16-2006, 07:23 AM

Episode 2 rocks!  The opening scene with Herc is absolutely priceless, as is the conversation he has about it with Carver later on.  Do not miss it!

JimBeam

09-16-2006, 08:52 AM

Yeah that was a good scene.I liked how he kept looking up at the paintings on the wall as he was walking through.I really really really hope that the girl who works for Marlow gets it in the endShe annoys me ( although her scene in the 1st episode at the Home Depot or whatever was pretty funny ),

tbonesteak

09-19-2006, 06:26 AM

Episode 3 was great!  It was good to see Bunny back in action and it gave a glimpse into McNulty's new life.  It also left some big questions hanging in the air:Is the major crime unit finished?  It's hard to imagine since the show is called the wire, but it certainly looks like the end.  Maybe they will revive the unit once they find all those bodies Marlow's been hiding.Will Bodie go head-to-head with Marlow?  If so, who will come out alive?  Since the very beginning, I've felt that Bodie is one of the best characters in the show.  That scene with him and D'Angelo playing chess in Season 1 is one of my all time favorites.  I have a feeling he's going to stick around, but who knows.Is McNulty really reformed or will he get back in the action?  I really can't say on this one.  Next week's episode looks like it's going to be a good one.  They ended the preview with Omar stickin up Marlow.

BrentfromTN1

09-19-2006, 06:57 AM

Damn I wish I had HBO on Demand.  I can not watch the new episode until Sunday Night.  If you post about the HBO on Demand new episodes, could you please post a Spoiler Alert or something.  Thanks.

Earlshog

09-19-2006, 07:26 AM

JimBeam wrote: Yeah that was a good scene.I liked how he kept looking up at the paintings on the wall as he was walking through.I really really really hope that the girl who works for Marlow gets it in the endShe annoys me ( although her scene in the 1st episode at the Home Depot or whatever was pretty funny ),there has to be a reason that one dude wouldn't take Marlows money... Are any of those kids the ones Walace was looking after in season one? Yeah I agree if you are going to post about the upcoming episode post some type of a spolier warning

tbonesteak

09-19-2006, 08:08 AM

I apologize for the spoiler.  I keep forgetting that some people don't get to watch it until Sunday.  By the way, I think it's great that HBO is doing this with On Demand and it makes a lot of sense for them from a marketing perspective.  Since they make money off subscriptions, not advertising, it makes no difference to them when you watch the show and if they continue this with other shows, it may inspire people to add the on demand feature.

BrentfromTN1

09-19-2006, 10:00 AM

No problem on the Spoiler. I agree that the On Demand is a great idea. Does anyoone know if you can get it on Dish Network?  Thanks.

JimBeam

09-22-2006, 12:54 PM

I don't think Bodie's " hard " enough to go against Marlowe.He seems to be more of a follower than a leader.I also can't stand the one guy from Avon's crew sons. What a punk he was when his friend was getting the beat down a few episodes ago.I think its like Mojo said a while back that McNulty is only in it this season to bridge and/or gice " credibility " to this season. As much as he was great I havent missed him as much as I thought.This past episode was kinda boring.

BACH16207

09-25-2006, 01:42 PM

<div>The opening scene with Omar, has to be the best scene thus far. I love Omar and the way everyone scatters when he comes down the street. Nice hog too, no homo!</div>

JimBeam

09-30-2006, 09:01 AM

Looks like Omar and Marlowe are gonna be going at it soon.Hope Omar comes out OK.

Kevin

10-01-2006, 06:58 PM

Omar is one crazy mo fo

TheMojoPin

10-01-2006, 07:49 PM

Prop Joe is showing himself to be the true evil mastermind of this show.

Freakshow

10-01-2006, 07:54 PM

Sorry to whomever said otherwise, but the Principal of the school
has the most authentic bal'mer accent.

Love the 'no snitching,' inside jokes.

PapaBear

10-01-2006, 10:15 PM

Freakshow wrote: Sorry to whomever said otherwise, but the Principal of the school has the most authentic bal'mer accent. Love the 'no snitching,' inside jokes. I checked to see who she is, and she's listed as "unknown". In any case, chances are, she's actually from Baltimore. A lot of them are. Homicide was the same way.

Earlshog

10-02-2006, 06:27 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Prop Joe is showing himself to be the true evil mastermind of this show. don't ever sleep on prop Joe... another great episode... you know Keema is going to solve the case of the witness being murdered..Lestor is one smart mother f'erI miss Jimmy McNultyWill Prez figure out thats Weebys kids in his class...Someone posted a comment from the New York Times stating the show is the closest a TV show has ever come to having the feel of a novel... they nailed it..

tbonesteak

10-02-2006, 08:27 AM

PapaBear wrote: Freakshow wrote: Sorry to whomever said otherwise, but the Principal of the school has the most authentic bal'mer accent. Love the 'no snitching,' inside jokes. I checked to see who she is, and she's listed as "unknown". In any case, chances are, she's actually from Baltimore. A lot of them are. Homicide was the same way.I think it's a close one between her and the white police officer (lt. maybe) who worked with Bunny last season.  His accent is REALLY thick.

Servo

10-03-2006, 08:36 AM

So what does everyone think McNulty's role will be this season?  So far we've only seen him pop up here and there.  He's clearly happy with his new job as a uniformed beat cop, his drinking is under control, and he has settled into a nice thing with Russell.  But I have to believe that they have something more in store for Jimmy as the season unfolds.  I think somehow he's going to get caught up in Kima and Lester's investigations (Marlo's missing bodies.)  After all, he is "natural po-leece."Also, it's sad what happened to the detail, becoming another "rip-and-run" squad and whatnot.  Would love to see Daniels take it over again by the end of the season.

JimBeam

10-04-2006, 08:17 AM

I think its kinda like what Mojo said a while back.The only reason McNulty is even in it this season is to bridge and/or give it " validation " from the previous seasons.I honestly dont expect to see much more than a few cameos by him.I think the details gonna be back up now that they are trying to spy on Marlowe.And how'd that hump no they were spying ?Was that one kid who came out watching them the whole time ?

tbonesteak

10-04-2006, 09:19 AM

SPOILER ALERT!!! JimBeam wrote:  I think its kinda like what Mojo said a while back.The only reason McNulty is even in it this season is to bridge and/or give it " validation " from the previous seasons.I honestly dont expect to see much more than a few cameos by him.I think the details gonna be back up now that they are trying to spy on Marlowe.And how'd that hump no they were spying ?Was that one kid who came out watching them the whole time ?I think McNulty will play a bigger part as the season goes along.  The previews for next week show him taking down Omar.  I think the bodies are really going to be the key to the whole season.  As soon as they find them, it's going to create a huge problem from the police department, the mayor's office, and everyone else involved.  I wouldn't be surprised if MCU gets rid of the new lieutenant and brings everyone back to keep up the wire on Marlow.  That might be the vehicle for bringing McNulty and Daniels back and reviving the "wire", which is what the show is about to begin with.  I thought is was pretty obvious that the kid was watching Herc and Carver plant the bug and that he called Marlow right afterward.  The thing I'm unsure about is when Marlow shook hands with Prop Joe, was he joining the co-op or what?  Overall this season has been fantastic so far.  I was a little nervous about the direction the show was taking but the kids are terrifc characters and the new plotlines mesh well with everything else that's going on.  Out of all the new characters, Michael is probably the most interesting.  He's getting pulled from so many different directions.  It also seems pretty obvious that he was molested as a child because he doesn't seem to trust older men.Also, what are your predicitions for the mayoral election.  I'm betting that Tony Gray will win because Royce looks like he's finished and the show is too cynical to elect a white mayor.

TheMojoPin

10-04-2006, 10:05 AM

Out of all the new characters, Michael is probably the most interesting.  He's getting pulled from so many different directions.  It also seems pretty obvious that he was molested as a child because he doesn't seem to trust older men.I was thinking that at first, too, but re-watching the latest episode I think it's more likely Michael himself might be gay and he's afraid of what that means, especially given the environment he's growing up in.  Think to when he's at the fights with Justin and Cutty...he goes out of his way to mention how "cut" one of the fighters is and then scrambles to make sure Justin hears him follow it up with, "but I bet his woman is fine!"  Y'know, like, "oh, I'm totally not gay, don't mind me."Now that's not to say he wasn't molested, which would explain why he is so nervous around Cutty, but I have a feeling he's probably gay, too.  The kid has a lot of issues running around in his head.And McNulty's role really is not going to expand.  The show's creators said he wasn't going to be around much and even Dominic West himself said he's only "in a few episodes" because of where his character ended up and other film obligations.  I think he'd be involved in Omar's arrest because Bunk knows McNulty's dealt with Omar in the past and would be able to help track him down and bring him in, or convince him of something.And I'm really impressed with how Marlowe and his crew have developed...they don't have the depth that the Barksdale ganag had, but they are downright fucking scary.  They're menacing in a way Avon and Stringer could never hope to be.

tbonesteak

10-04-2006, 11:57 AM

TheMojoPin wrote:  Out of all the new characters, Michael is probably the most interesting.  He's getting pulled from so many different directions.  It also seems pretty obvious that he was molested as a child because he doesn't seem to trust older men.  I was thinking that at first, too, but re-watching the latest episode I think it's more likely Michael himself might be gay and he's afraid of what that means, especially given the environment he's growing up in.  Think to when he's at the fights with Justin and Cutty...he goes out of his way to mention how "cut" one of the fighters is and then scrambles to make sure Justin hears him follow it up with, "but I bet his woman is fine!"  Y'know, like, "oh, I'm totally not gay, don't mind me."Now that's not to say he wasn't molested, which would explain why he is so nervous around Cutty, but I have a feeling he's probably gay, too.  The kid has a lot of issues running around in his head.And McNulty's role really is not going to expand.  The show's creators said he wasn't going to be around much and even Dominic West himself said he's only "in a few episodes" because of where his character ended up and other film obligations.  I think he'd be involved in Omar's arrest because Bunk knows McNulty's dealt with Omar in the past and would be able to help track him down and bring him in, or convince him of something.And I'm really impressed with how Marlowe and his crew have developed...they don't have the depth that the Barksdale ganag had, but they are downright fucking scary.  They're menacing in a way Avon and Stringer could never hope to be.That's a good point.  I didn't think about that.  To me, the scene at the fights doesn't really suggest anything, though.  It seemed more like his comments were directed at Justin because he was trying to avoid contact with Cutty.  I don't think it's gay to comment on an athlete being cut and I can't think of another instance where he seems on the fence.  He certainly has no problem interacting with his friends.  It's the older people (Cutty, Prez, etc) that seem to rub him the wrong way (no pun intended).  But you could be right and it would certainly make sense.

El Mudo

10-04-2006, 12:23 PM

And I'm really impressed with how Marlowe and
his crew have developed...they don't have the depth that the Barksdale
ganag had, but they are downright fucking scary.  They're menacing in a
way Avon and Stringer could never hope to be I
think what makes them so menacing is the fact that the really just
don't care....about anything.  They've done a great job in the
story of making them seem so "detached" from just about any feelings
whatsoever.

TheMojoPin

10-04-2006, 08:17 PM

El Mudo wrote:  And I'm really impressed with how Marlow and his crew have developed...they don't have the depth that the Barksdale ganag had, but they are downright fucking scary.  They're menacing in a way Avon and Stringer could never hope to be   I think what makes them so menacing is the fact that the really just don't care....about anything.  They've done a great job in the story of making them seem so "detached" from just about any feelings whatsoever.  They're turning out to be straight-up assassins...better at killing than any of the other gangs have been, and it makes them that much scarier.  I know Snoop is weird and all, but Chris is the one that REALLY creeps me out.  He strikes me as the kinda guy who would tear your throat out with his teeth if you cornered him.  Though they even built them up last year...remember when Marlow took out the woman who was spying on him for Barksdale?  Brutal.

JimBeam

10-05-2006, 09:37 AM

I think Stringer could've destoryed both Matlowe and Chris if he wasnt so worried about being Donald Trump.

TheMojoPin

10-05-2006, 05:10 PM

JimBeam wrote: I think Stringer could've destoryed both Matlowe and Chris if he wasnt so worried about being Donald Trump.How so?  Outside of having D'Angelo killed and Omar's boyfriend taken out, he really didn't seem to have his heart in all of that "gangsta bullshit."  Marlow and his crew seem to actually enjoy being ruthless murderers.

JimBeam

10-06-2006, 08:36 AM

They always gave the impression that Avon and Stringer were badasses in the past and thats what got them on top.Avon clearly always had to rely on Stringer and when he got " distracted " his hear twasnt in it.Dont forget Stringer orhestrated the killing of 2 witnesses in a trial one of which actually helped their case ( the female security guard ).

TheMojoPin

10-06-2006, 10:54 AM

Oh, they'd kill when they HAD to.  That's the difference.  Avon and Stringer would have rivals and witnesses and the like knocked off if necessary...but when would they have ever done anything like when Chris & Snoop knocked off the rent-a-cop in the last episode?  These guys are just killing for fun because they know how to hide the bodies.  Avon and Stringer knew that more bodies meant more attention and since they couldn't hide it as well, they were a different type of criminal.  They never seemed like the straight up psychopaths Marlow and co. are.

El Mudo

10-09-2006, 04:09 PM

I'd like to point out that State Senator Clay Davis may be my all time favorite character EVER... He's just so EVIL...he's almost DASTARDLY in a senseI
wanna hate the guy, but I just can't.  I see his million watt
smile and hear him say SHHHHEEEEEEEEE-ITTTT and I just can't stop
chuckling I like how they are portraying my boy
Carcetti as this sort of "uncorruptible" figure...I wonder how long
he'll stay like that?

TheMojoPin

10-09-2006, 05:01 PM

El Mudo wrote: I'd like to point out that State Senator Clay Davis may be my all time favorite character EVER... He's just so EVIL...he's almost DASTARDLY in a senseI wanna hate the guy, but I just can't.  I see his million watt smile and hear him say SHHHHEEEEEEEEE-ITTTT and I just can't stop chuckling I like how they are portraying my boy Carcetti as this sort of "uncorruptible" figure...I wonder how long he'll stay like that?  I'm thinking he wins and then we get a front row seat of one of the greatest showings of "absolute power corrupts absolutely" in television history.  If you listen to the commentaries on the season3 DVD, David Simon does not hold back at all in pointing out the little bits of Carcetti that indicate he's just as full of shit as anyone else.And you're right about Clay Davis.  That actor shows up in The 25th Hour and when he busts out the "sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-it" I feel like standing up and applauding.  Dude shows up in like a dozen commercials every year, too.  I don't trust ANYTHING he's selling...he's too good at playing a scumbag!Oh, and my "Marlow's crew = scary as hell" theory got HUGE points this week.  I can't believe Chris blew away that delivery woman like that.

Kevin

10-09-2006, 05:19 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: El Mudo wrote: I'd like to point out that State Senator Clay Davis may be my all time favorite character EVER... He's just so EVIL...he's almost DASTARDLY in a senseI wanna hate the guy, but I just can't.  I see his million watt smile and hear him say SHHHHEEEEEEEEE-ITTTT and I just can't stop chuckling I like how they are portraying my boy Carcetti as this sort of "uncorruptible" figure...I wonder how long he'll stay like that?  I'm thinking he wins and then we get a front row seat of one of the greatest showings of "absolute power corrupts absolutely" in television history.  If you listen to the commentaries on the season3 DVD, David Simon does not hold back at all in pointing out the little bits of Carcetti that indicate he's just as full of shit as anyone else.And you're right about Clay Davis.  That actor shows up in The 25th Hour and when he busts out the "sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-it" I feel like standing up and applauding.  Dude shows up in like a dozen commercials every year, too.  I don't trust ANYTHING he's selling...he's too good at playing a scumbag!Oh, and my "Marlow's crew = scary as hell" theory got HUGE points this week.  I can't believe Chris blew away that delivery woman like that.What is more scary about this show is how together and tight the fat man and the coop is.. I mean its just scary, They are now a drug corporation. Marlows crew is gunna be much scarier now that they have them backing them. Now they do not have to hold back al all.

El Mudo

10-09-2006, 07:59 PM

What is more scary about this show is how
together and tight the fat man and the coop is.. I mean its just scary,
They are now a drug corporation. Marlows crew is gunna be much scarier
now that they have them backing them. Now they do not have to hold back
al all. Prop Joe runs the co-op Marlowe
doesn't NEED the co op at all in a sense.  Prop Joe needs Marlowe
and his muscle to help the co op and their NY problem.  Marlowe
never held back at all, with or without the Co Op.  He told Prop
himself he didn't need him and no one messed with him anyway, but Prop
used Omar the Homo Thug to convince Marlowe he needed the Co Op's
help  That brings up an interesting
question...who's the most evil person on the show? I vote State Senator
Clay Davis over Prop Joe by the slimmest of margins... and by the way Mojo, this week's episode is AWESOME....already caught it on On Demand

TheMojoPin

10-10-2006, 05:07 AM

El Mudo wrote:  What is more scary about this show is how together and tight the fat man and the coop is.. I mean its just scary, They are now a drug corporation. Marlows crew is gunna be much scarier now that they have them backing them. Now they do not have to hold back al all.   Prop Joe runs the co-op Marlowe doesn't NEED the co op at all in a sense.  Prop Joe needs Marlowe and his muscle to help the co op and their NY problem.  Marlowe never held back at all, with or without the Co Op.  He told Prop himself he didn't need him and no one messed with him anyway, but Prop used Omar the Homo Thug to convince Marlowe he needed the Co Op's help  That brings up an interesting question...who's the most evil person on the show? I vote State Senator Clay Davis over Prop Joe by the slimmest of margins... and by the way Mojo, this week's episode is AWESOME....already caught it on On Demand Damn, I wish I had In Demand!  It's almost insane how much better and already great show can get each week.As for the co-op, don't forget, the implication seems to be they have access to better dope, and more of it, too.  It's a trade off if Marlow joins...they get his muscle, he gets more and better drugs to sell.

El Mudo

10-10-2006, 05:13 AM

Well, that was one of Marlowe's points to stay out of the co op...he didn't need Prop Joe's product because he had no competition Prop Joe is brilliant

JimBeam

10-10-2006, 09:26 AM

I went to watch it On Demand last night, like I do every Monday, and they didnt have the new episode yet.Hope it's there tonight.

Kevin

10-10-2006, 10:15 AM

Yea both Showtime and HBO seems to put their eps on demand during the week before the sunday playtime. They did it with the Sopranos this year and they had Dexters 3rd ep that should be on sunday on demand last night. I do not know if its a mistake or what. I can't see them wanting to add the ep before the right time.

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-10-06 @ 2:16 PM

Earlshog

10-10-2006, 11:31 AM

BrentfromTN1

10-10-2006, 12:01 PM

He was banging that lady who is helping run his campaign.  She was banged Mcnulty and him.  She sure does have a great set of tits as well! <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />

Servo

10-10-2006, 01:10 PM

Nah, last season he nailed some random broad he picked up at a fundraiser (after his wife left with the kids).  McNulty was banging the campaign strategist. 

El Mudo

10-10-2006, 01:11 PM

didn't they show Carcetti bangin some chick that wasn't his wife in saeson three... 


 

 Yeah, but compared to the stunts pulled by Clarence Royce? The guy's a saint...

El Mudo

10-10-2006, 04:40 PM

McNulty was banging the campaign strategist.  

 


 
I find that character to be interesting on so many levels. 
What's the source on her thing with Carcetti?  It almost borders
on stalking.  She was banging McNulty on the side just to get info
out of him on how Royce was screwing up as far as crime was concerned
to help ol' Tommy, which Jimmy eventually figured out

TheMojoPin

10-10-2006, 06:12 PM

El Mudo wrote:  McNulty was banging the campaign strategist.       I find that character to be interesting on so many levels.  What's the source on her thing with Carcetti?  It almost borders on stalking.  She was banging McNulty on the side just to get info out of him on how Royce was screwing up as far as crime was concerned to help ol' Tommy, which Jimmy eventually figured out She was never hooking up with Carcetti.  The woman we saw him with last year was just some random chick he saw at a fundraiser.  The strategist is working for Carcetti because it's her job...why is whatsisface from Oz working with Carcetti?  Because it's his job to get people elected.  And when she first hooked up with McNulty it was only about the sex...she didn't give a damn about his job or who he was.  It wasn't until near the end of the season, after she had basically dumped him, that she came back trying to trade some sex for info.

JimBeam

10-11-2006, 09:40 AM

Mojo you think thats why she tried to " rekindle " with McNulty ?I guess I missed that.I was thinking she had just kinda felt guilty and maybe needed a good lay.Yeah but in no way is she or was she banging Carcetti.Totally different woman he was doing on that table in that one episode

Earlshog

10-11-2006, 09:44 AM

JimBeam wrote: Mojo you think thats why she tried to " rekindle " with McNulty ?I guess I missed that.I was thinking she had just kinda felt guilty and maybe needed a good lay.Yeah but in no way is she or was she banging Carcetti.Totally different woman he was doing on that table in that one episodeyeah she wnated info that is why she wanted to hook up with Jimmy that last time... I think she used to bang him in college or lawschool or something... when they introduced her the first episode in the bar she elluded to that...

TheMojoPin

10-11-2006, 10:11 AM

JimBeam wrote: Mojo you think thats why she tried to " rekindle " with McNulty ?I guess I missed that.I was thinking she had just kinda felt guilty and maybe needed a good lay.Yeah but in no way is she or was she banging Carcetti.Totally different woman he was doing on that table in that one episodeThink back to when she's having dinner with McNulty...when she asks him if he knows anything about the Hamsterdam scandal, that's when he realizes he's just being used and takes off.  That's all she cared about at that point because she knew they could spin any inside info they had against Royce.

tbonesteak

10-11-2006, 10:15 AM

Earlshog wrote: JimBeam wrote: Mojo you think thats why she tried to " rekindle " with McNulty ?I guess I missed that.I was thinking she had just kinda felt guilty and maybe needed a good lay.Yeah but in no way is she or was she banging Carcetti.Totally different woman he was doing on that table in that one episodeyeah she wnated info that is why she wanted to hook up with Jimmy that last time... I think she used to bang him in college or lawschool or something... when they introduced her the first episode in the bar she elluded to that... I got the same impression.  They used to bang but haven't in years.  Also, compared to last season, she looks terrible this year.  My girlfriend thinks she's pregnant.  Either way, she was way hotter last season (although her tits looked huge in the last episode).

JimBeam

10-11-2006, 10:53 AM

I also think she's pregnant.A lot of baggy shirts and shots from the waist up.She looked way hot in the scene when she first banged McNulty.She dies have a wierd face though. Like a reptile or something.

JimBeam

10-12-2006, 10:06 AM

So they finally aired this weeks episode On Demand last nigth.Pretty good.Omar's in some trouble.We now know who wins the mayorial race.

BrentfromTN1

10-13-2006, 05:01 AM

JimBeam wrote: Mojo you think thats why she tried to " rekindle " with McNulty ?I guess I missed that.I was thinking she had just kinda felt guilty and maybe needed a good lay.Yeah but in no way is she or was she banging Carcetti.Totally different woman he was doing on that table in that one episodeI apologize for the wrong info.  I guess my subconscious was just wanting to see more of her big tits and I got confused :-)

JimBeam

10-13-2006, 08:07 AM

There's a bit of a tease on just that this week.You get a good look at her and see that she's not pregnant now but she might've just had a baby or something because her body looks odd.

Kevin

10-15-2006, 07:07 PM

Carcetti actually won, which was expected. I can't believe he passed on her. She has such a great set of cans.

BrentfromTN1

10-15-2006, 07:12 PM

Yea the whitey won in Baltimore.  The campaign lady does have an odd look compared to last year, but I sure would still give her  a run at the title for sure!

PapaBear

10-15-2006, 10:53 PM

I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this. Though I love this show, one thing keeps bothering me. They keep talking about how hard it is for a white guy to run for Mayor of Baltimore. Baltimore has only had one black mayor in it's history.

El Mudo

10-16-2006, 07:54 AM

PapaBear wrote: I'm
not sure if anyone else has mentioned this. Though I love this show,
one thing keeps bothering me. They keep talking about how hard it is
for a white guy to run for Mayor of Baltimore. Baltimore has only had
one black mayor in it's history.  Ah yes...the immortal Kurt Schmoke...<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/lol.gif" /> I
think they're making more of a hypothetical type situation of a white
guy running for mayor in a predominately black city <blockquote />

PapaBear

10-16-2006, 02:15 PM

That would have worked better in DC, where there haven't been any white mayors. Either way... I still love the show.

El Mudo

10-16-2006, 02:28 PM

EDIT:  Never mind.. 


This message was edited by El Mudo on 10-16-06 @ 6:29 PM

JimBeam

10-17-2006, 08:59 AM

New episode wasnt ON Deamnd again last night.Guess they're gonna make me wait until Thursday like last week.

TheMojoPin

10-17-2006, 09:09 AM

I don't think there's officially a new episode until October 29th.  I have no idea why, but that's the date they tossed out when showing the previews for the next episode.  What the fuck does HBO have that they need to pre-empt their own shows like that?  Bastards...

tbonesteak

10-17-2006, 10:38 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: I don't think there's officially a new episode until October 29th.  I have no idea why, but that's the date they tossed out when showing the previews for the next episode.  What the fuck does HBO have that they need to pre-empt their own shows like that?  Bastards... HBO website says the same thing.  I guess that means it will be available on demand starting next Monday.  Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo long to wait...

JimBeam

10-25-2006, 11:04 AM

I caught the new episode On Demand last night.Oretty good but not much happens.There's so resolution to some open stories but not much on the way of " action ".Next episdoe looks to be different.Looks like we'll get some good stuff.Herc had some good lines this week and Carver is getting better & better.

klaus_kinski_Jr

10-25-2006, 11:08 AM

Having watched all of Season 4 about two weeks ago. Let me just say that you wont be dissapointed at all folks.

Won't give away anything, but there will be a few brief cameos from previous season characters popping up.

Sadly no Ziggy

JohnWC

10-25-2006, 11:40 AM

The rest of the season is up on torrents sites. Just finished watching
last night. I wont give anything away but I will say it;s great. Can't
wait for the fifth and final season.

JimBeam

10-26-2006, 09:36 AM

How the hell did they get leaked out ?You b*stards !!!

klaus_kinski_Jr

10-26-2006, 11:52 AM

They were ripped from DVD screeners. So there were none of those previously on or on the next Wire stuff. Darn. I really wanted to know what was going to happen. Especially since it was going to take all of a minute for me to start the next one.

JimBeam

10-26-2006, 12:06 PM

Sweet deal.Did we ever find out who sings this season's opening song ?I reiterate that its the best one so far.

klaus_kinski_Jr

10-26-2006, 12:40 PM

Season four's version of "Way Down In The Hole" was arranged and recorded specifically for the show, and is performed by a group called "DoMaJe", made up of five Baltimore teenagers: Ivan Ashford, Markel Steele, Cameron Brown, Tariq Al-Sabir, and Avery Bargasse.

Hopefully season 5 they can use The Compulsive Gamblers version.

TheMojoPin

10-26-2006, 12:48 PM

klaus_kinski_Jr wrote: Season four's version of "Way Down In The Hole" was arranged and recorded specifically for the show, and is performed by a group called "DoMaJe", made up of five Baltimore teenagers: Ivan Ashford, Markel Steele, Cameron Brown, Tariq Al-Sabir, and Avery Bargasse. Hopefully season 5 they can use The Compulsive Gamblers version. Yeah, I was pulling for the CG version, too, but seeing as they've gotten people to sing new versions of the song last year and this year, I have the feeling that they'll get a new version for the final season.I love how each version has fit the tone of that particular season.  I remember during season 1 I was thinking, "what the fuck?  Why not use the Waits' original?"  But then that version just felt so much more right for season 2.

JimBeam

10-31-2006, 09:08 AM

HBO On Demand got their act together.Showed the new epsidoe last night.Pretty good but misleading from last weeks trailer.Getting a little too involved in the alternative classroom.Oh and if I said it before I wanna say it again I would like to smash Weebay's wife's face in with a shovel.I'd also like to do the same to the son. What a poser.I wish WeeBay would get out of jail and they'd go in.

Earlshog

10-31-2006, 11:40 AM

I loved the line this week when Keema solved her case...went something like:so you mean some yo missed a clorox bottle and hit our witness and Caretti gets to be Mayor over this shit... I love this city.. I really do

tbonesteak

11-01-2006, 05:57 AM

SPOILER ALERT!  The new episode on demand is great.                                           I hope Michael kills that sick fuck who molested him.  That whole thing made me cringe.  As tv crack addicts go, Michael's mother is very convincing.  Did anyone notice that the girl who was buying drugs from Andre when Bunk came into the store was the same girl from last season who drove into Hamsterdam and told a dealer something like, "no offense, but I just want to get my drugs and go".Also, good for Daniels.  He deserves to be commissioner.  I couldn't believe that shit that came out of Rawls' mouth.  Fucking racist homo.                                         

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-1-06 @ 10:08 AM

JimBeam

11-01-2006, 08:59 AM

A lot of what Rawls said was true though.You don't think in every police force people are being promoted when they shouldn't be just to keep up with quotas ?Not just minorities but women as well.Spoiler discussion ( highlight to read ):You think the guy molested him ?I thought he just didnt like him because he was a convict and probably all around bad guy.Now that I think about it the way he called the brother over when he saw him touching him it makes sense.That same actor played the same character on NYPD Blue. He got into it w/ the big balck guy over a kid.

tbonesteak

11-01-2006, 11:10 AM

JimBeam wrote: A lot of what Rawls said was true though.You don't think in every police force people are being promoted when they shouldn't be just to keep up with quotas ?Not just minorities but women as well.Spoiler discussion ( highlight to read ):You think the guy molested him ?I thought he just didnt like him because he was a convict and probably all around bad guy.Now that I think about it the way he called the brother over when he saw him touching him it makes sense.That same actor played the same character on NYPD Blue. He got into it w/ the big balck guy over a kid.Michael's step father said something like "too bad you grew up" or "it's a shame you got older" after he tried to touch his face.  VERY creepy.And Rawls might have a point but he came across as a bigot.

JimBeam

11-01-2006, 11:16 AM

Oh Rawls totally was pandering and self serving but doesnt change that he was partially correct.It was just where he put his emphasis.

Freakshow

11-02-2006, 05:34 AM

The actor who plays Chris is on with the Junks right now. Pretty interesting guy.

This message was edited by Freakshow on 11-2-06 @ 9:35 AM

Earlshog

11-13-2006, 06:16 AM

when the kids got into Bunny Colvins car after the dinner Webays turned on the radio... and that poppin my collar song was on... I had a flashback to the NBA finals...

El Mudo

11-13-2006, 06:42 AM

Thanks for getting that song stuck in my head again...it was bad enough to hear it all the time on XM...

JimBeam

11-13-2006, 08:54 PM

On Demand had the latest episode up already tonight.3 more left for the season.Good episode. Some resolution on a few things.The more I watch the show the more I realize that there's not a single bad character/actor well maybe with the exception of 1.In all honesty if Weebay's wife was chocking on something right in front of me or was on fire 2 feet next to me I'd just laugh.I'm not just talking about the character I hate her so much I mean the actress.Oh and we almost got some idea on how old Bunny got his name but they didnt tell us.Assholes.I thought I'd miss McNulty but they've gone on nicely w/out him. Lestor needs to be in it more.McNulty's ex-wife makes an appearance and actually doesnt look too bad from what they show of her.

TheMojoPin

11-19-2006, 07:06 PM

I just saw the episode you were talking about...damn, Chris is fucked up.  That guy clearly had something bad happen to him for him to do what he did.I can't believe there are only 3 episodes left...

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 07:09 PM

Why did I feel like the old Jimmy McNulty was/is gonna make a comeback in that scene with the his ex wife, the whore from Rescue Me?

Just something about the look in Jimmy's eye I found perplexing..

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 07:51 PM

I guess we're also going to find out the real story behind the "Daniels is Dirty" sidebar from Season One between McNulty and his FBI guy

Kevin

11-19-2006, 08:08 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: I just saw the episode you were talking about...damn, Chris is fucked up.  That guy clearly had something bad happen to him for him to do what he did.I can't believe there are only 3 episodes left...Agreed, Chris has to have been molested as a kid or something. I am trying to fIgure out who is the more awful person Sen Davis or the kids mom. I know its Davis but,I really hate the Mom. I just want to shoot that fucked up bitch right in the head. God do i hate her, I find Davis funny, SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 08:15 PM

I want a Senator Clay Davis scene in every single episode dammit!

I can't get enough of the guy...

TheMojoPin

11-20-2006, 03:30 AM

Kevin wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I just saw the episode you were talking about...damn, Chris is fucked up.  That guy clearly had something bad happen to him for him to do what he did.I can't believe there are only 3 episodes left...Agreed, Chris has to have been molested as a kid or something. I am trying to fIgure out who is the more awful person Sen Davis or the kids mom. I know its Davis but,I really hate the Mom. I just want to shoot that fucked up bitch right in the head. God do i hate her, I find Davis funny, SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.I loved it when Carcetti's guy threw out the extra long "sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiit."

Earlshog

11-20-2006, 05:19 AM

Marlo is ruthless... why do you think slim charles drop the Little Kev news on bodie like that?

runnerkid

11-20-2006, 06:32 AM

That scene where he is kickin' in that dudes head...did it remind anyone of that scene from that french flick Irreversible?  That is what I was thinking.I hope bubbles does not die this season, but I feel like it is coming soon.

Kevin

11-20-2006, 07:48 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Kevin wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I just saw the episode you were talking about...damn, Chris is fucked up.  That guy clearly had something bad happen to him for him to do what he did.I can't believe there are only 3 episodes left...Agreed, Chris has to have been molested as a kid or something. I am trying to fIgure out who is the more awful person Sen Davis or the kids mom. I know its Davis but,I really hate the Mom. I just want to shoot that fucked up bitch right in the head. God do i hate her, I find Davis funny, SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.I loved it when Carcetti's guy threw out the extra long "sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiit."Carcetti's guy has a name damnit! He is a real person too......          I do not know it either.....

UnknownPD

11-25-2006, 06:40 PM

Don't know why, but tomorrows episode is up on "On Demand"

Kevin

11-25-2006, 06:42 PM

UnknownPD wrote: Don't know why, but tomorrows episode is up on "On Demand" It always has been. The whole year

UnknownPD

11-26-2006, 09:13 AM

Kevin wrote: UnknownPD wrote: Don't know why, but tomorrows episode is up on "On Demand"  It always has been. The whole yearSo you mean I've been waiting till Sundays for no reason?

JimBeam

11-26-2006, 09:25 AM

I think they've been putting up the episodes for Sundays on the prior Monday.They havent stayed hard and fast with that as sometikes it doesnt show up until Thursday and a few times there was a week or so between and new episodes.I still refer to Carcetti's chief of staff as Warden Querns ( his character from Oz ).I think his name is Norman though.

Kevin

11-26-2006, 12:49 PM

UnknownPD wrote: Kevin wrote: UnknownPD wrote: Don't know why, but tomorrows episode is up on "On Demand" It always has been. The whole yearSo you mean I've been waiting till Sundays for no reason? Yes sir, You could have watched the next ep starting monday.

tbonesteak

11-28-2006, 08:48 AM

The new episode On Demand is fantastic.  I won't go into detail, but it ties a lot of things together.I am disappointed that there is only 1 more episode in the season, however.  There is so much going on that it will be VERY hard to wrap everything up in the last hour.  It's been one of the best seasons yet and I wish it would go on for another few episodes.

TheMojoPin

11-28-2006, 10:50 AM

tbonesteak wrote: The new episode On Demand is fantastic.  I won't go into detail, but it ties a lot of things together.I am disappointed that there is only 1 more episode in the season, however.  There is so much going on that it will be VERY hard to wrap everything up in the last hour.  It's been one of the best seasons yet and I wish it would go on for another few episodes. I'd be shocked if they didn't.  I've been impressed how they've ended every season as if it could be the last so cleanly.But remember..."wrapping things up" in that world means criminals will stay free, murders and other crimes unpunished, "good guys" left in shitty situations, etc., etc..  That's how it's always been with this show, because that's life.

tbonesteak

11-28-2006, 12:52 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: tbonesteak wrote: The new episode On Demand is fantastic.  I won't go into detail, but it ties a lot of things together.I am disappointed that there is only 1 more episode in the season, however.  There is so much going on that it will be VERY hard to wrap everything up in the last hour.  It's been one of the best seasons yet and I wish it would go on for another few episodes. I'd be shocked if they didn't.  I've been impressed how they've ended every season as if it could be the last so cleanly.But remember..."wrapping things up" in that world means criminals will stay free, murders and other crimes unpunished, "good guys" left in shitty situations, etc., etc..  That's how it's always been with this show, because that's life.I agree and I'm not expecting everything to be completely wrapped up.  The show did a terrific job ending the last 3 seasons, even though many things were left unanswered.This season, there are a lot more questions: What happens to Marlow and his crew?  What happens to Prop Joe and Omar?  Where do the young boys end up?  What happens to Carcetti?  Cutty?  What about the bodies in the row houses?  What's the fate of Freemon and CID?  What happens to Bubbles and his situation?  Where do they leave things in the PD?  Who's running the department?  What about Bunny and his program?  The list goes on and on.The last 3 seasons, everything was getting wrapped up towards the end, and the final episode was more of an epilogue.  This season things keep building, there are many more characters and sub-plots, and the last episode is going to have to cover a lot of ground to wrap things up.  Otherwise, the show is going to leave us on a big cliffhanger, which they were able to avoid in the past.  Maybe season 5 will be more of a continuation than previous seasons.It also seems to me that after 4 or 5 weeks of heart-pounding episodes, the last batch has slowed down alot (up until the latest episode).  I think they could have uncovered the bodies sooner, they could have reorganized CID sooner, and they could have done without the Herc sub-plot with the camera (although that set the stage for the Randy debacle).  What a piece of shit Herc is - he's almost as bad as Namon's mom.  All in all, I can't wait for the last episode (i just wish there were more).  This has been an incredible season, and serves as proof that a show can stay fresh and keep getting better after 4 seasons (unlike the Sopranos).  Just look at Prez' character, how he's evolved from the bumbling idiot that shot up his own car and busted a kid's eye out in season one.  Every character on the show has evolved like that and all the actors deserve an award.

TheMojoPin

11-28-2006, 01:35 PM

tbonesteak wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: tbonesteak wrote: The new episode On Demand is fantastic.  I won't go into detail, but it ties a lot of things together.I am disappointed that there is only 1 more episode in the season, however.  There is so much going on that it will be VERY hard to wrap everything up in the last hour.  It's been one of the best seasons yet and I wish it would go on for another few episodes. I'd be shocked if they didn't.  I've been impressed how they've ended every season as if it could be the last so cleanly.But remember..."wrapping things up" in that world means criminals will stay free, murders and other crimes unpunished, "good guys" left in shitty situations, etc., etc..  That's how it's always been with this show, because that's life.I agree and I'm not expecting everything to be completely wrapped up.  The show did a terrific job ending the last 3 seasons, even though many things were left unanswered.This season, there are a lot more questions: What happens to Marlow and his crew?  What happens to Prop Joe and Omar?  Where do the young boys end up?  What happens to Carcetti?  Cutty?  What about the bodies in the row houses?  What's the fate of Freemon and CID?  What happens to Bubbles and his situation?  Where do they leave things in the PD?  Who's running the department?  What about Bunny and his program?  The list goes on and on.You can apply most of the questions to any of the other seasons...short of Baltimore suddenly exploding off the face of the planet, there's going to be shit that we don't see the end of in this show.  Life was going on before we showed up and it's going to keep going on.  What, are we supposed to follow every character until they're dead?The last 3 seasons, everything was getting wrapped up towards the end, and the final episode was more of an epilogue.  This season things keep building, there are many more characters and sub-plots, and the last episode is going to have to cover a lot of ground to wrap things up.  Otherwise, the show is going to leave us on a big cliffhanger, which they were able to avoid in the past.  Maybe season 5 will be more of a continuation than previous seasons.Keep in mind, this is the first season where they knew near the beginning that they would be back for another season afterwards.  They never had that luxury before.  Now they can knowingly stretch things out since they're guarenteed that 5th and final year.  Personally, I love any show the bucks the trend of trying to wrap things up nice and neat within an episode or a single season...to do that with this show would be a disservice to the type of show it is and what it's depicting.  Besides, we're not talking about open issues like on The Sopranos.  The point of The Wire has been that things usually don't go as you expect them to, nor is anything ever simple and unhappy endings and frustration are part of the game.It also seems to me that after 4 or 5 weeks of heart-pounding episodes, the last batch has slowed down alot (up until the latest episode).  I think they could have uncovered the bodies sooner, they could have reorganized CID sooner, and they could have done without the Herc sub-plot with the camera (although that set the stage for the Randy debacle).  What a piece of shit Herc is - he's almost as bad as Namon's mom.The patient pacing of the show is one of the things it's prasied for most, and it's where most of statements saying the series is like a well-written novel come from.  Red tape and human error typically d

JimBeam

11-28-2006, 03:53 PM

I dont think Herc is bad I just think he's an idiot and can't prioritize.I didnt like how they " turned " Michael so quickly.It went from him getting the favor, to Marlow telling Chris that he stood up for the " rat " to him running w/ the crew.Very much unlike the show's normal MO.I thought the opening scene was gonna be a dream because it just seemed lame and corny. Disappointed there as well.I think Carver is fantastic. I love the way he can seem interested and not so interested at the same time. Good acting.Like when Namon asks if his mom was pissed and Carver continues doing his crossword puzzle and doesnt even look up and says, No ... not at all. "I really hope I run into the actress that plays Namon's mom in real life because I wanna spit in her face. She bothers me that much. She looks like the pig from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ( Bee Bop ? Rocksteady ? ).I'm glad Michael did what he did to Namon because namon's always been a punk/poser.Lastly I hope Cutty gets to return the favor to that one kid who did what he did to him.

TheMojoPin

11-28-2006, 05:46 PM

JimBeam wrote: I dont think Herc is bad I just think he's an idiot and can't prioritize.Yeah, he's not hopeless...he's just obviously a guy who's gonna be a "grunt" and nothing more.  He's just not made to have authority or be the guy doing the thinking...look at when Lester was making him go over his work with CID.  He could remember all of those details but just couldn't put anything together.  He can be a decent cop, he just needs to be run by and working with the right people, like Carver and Lester and Daniels.I didnt like how they " turned " Michael so quickly.It went from him getting the favor, to Marlow telling Chris that he stood up for the " rat " to him running w/ the crew.Very much unlike the show's normal MO.Maybe, but I think this has always been there.  He was an angry and confused kid from the first episode we saw him and now that's just coming to the front.  I think the power of just saying he wanted someone gone and now they are made something switch on in him and he thinks he can do whatever he wants.Heh, they picked the perfect actress to play Namon's mom, just like Janice Soprano over on that other show.  I love to hate both of them and they're playing those kind of parts beautifully.[/quote]

UnknownPD

11-28-2006, 06:05 PM

I didnt like how they " turned " Michael so quickly.I agree Michael was not turned "quickly" He had done everything the right way and nothing worked for him. He went Marlo's way once and poof all problems solved. But I will say I couldn't believe the ferocity he had in beating Kenard. Man it hurt to watch.

Uncle Smokey

11-28-2006, 07:29 PM

Michael's turn was just right.  Getting the kid toucher killed flipped a switch that was long overdue.  He was all controlled violence and seething resentment up until then.  Now he's feeling flush and untouchable.  Scary shit.  I wonder what happens once the bodies all come out.  Marlo's gonna look to tie off loose ends.  Does Randy eat one as a result?  (Maybe with Mike being made to do it to prove his loyalty?) I cannot get enough of this show.  There simply is NEVER an "off" note, ever.  I wanna invite Freamon and Bunk to my house to just talk to each other in front of me, I swear.  Throw in Omar too, I'll lay in some honey nut...... no homo.

JimBeam

12-01-2006, 01:41 PM

But I don't think Michael is all gung-ho hard core because he slapped Namon around because he was picking on/hassling Duckey.He still has some compassion to him I think.I was just more bored, so to speak, with the " war games " Chris & Snoop played with Michael.I think Michael's internal confusion is gonna be aprt of how the show is resolved ( maybe along the lines of him doing away w/ Marlow when/if asked to betray his friends ).

klaus_kinski_Jr

12-01-2006, 02:23 PM

a little heads up the last episode is close to 90 minutes. Yes a lot
of things are tied up. With others leading right into the next
season. You won't be dissapointed folks trust me.

A minor spoiler someone dies that has been around for a while

Kevin

12-01-2006, 02:25 PM

Is the last ep up on HBO on demand?

Uncle Smokey

12-03-2006, 07:54 PM

JimBeam wrote: But I don't think Michael is all gung-ho hard core because he slapped Namon around because he was picking on/hassling Duckey.He still has some compassion to him I think.I was just more bored, so to speak, with the " war games " Chris & Snoop played with Michael.I think Michael's internal confusion is gonna be aprt of how the show is resolved ( maybe along the lines of him doing away w/ Marlow when/if asked to betray his friends ).Yeah, I agree the war games thing was a little silly in and of itself; but if you think on it, the "training" element of it does keep in play the fact that Mike is eventually gonna be asked to put in work for Marlo. Randy is a logical target - he's the only witness who is currrently tying  Marlo to the Lex murder, and by extension, to all the bodies in the vacants.  Plus, Marlo made a point of telling Chris that his pup stood tall for "the snitching boy." I do wonder which way Mike will go, because I agree with you, he's not all the way past his loyalty to his old friends.  I also wonder which way Chris will go if something like that goes down.  He's a stone killer but he's tied to Mike based on what appears to be their shared past of abuse.

klaus_kinski_Jr

12-04-2006, 07:25 AM

<a target='blank' href=http://http://www.slate.com/id/
2154694/nav/tap1/>Interview With David Simon</a>

He gives some details about season 5 and also what the writers
room is like. Really interesting stuff for the fans

runnerkid

12-04-2006, 07:14 PM

klaus_kinski_Jr wrote: <a href="http://http//www.slate.com/id/" target="blank"></a>Interview With David Simon He gives some details about season 5 and also what the writers room is like. Really interesting stuff for the fans Was thislink supposed to take me here? http://www.w3.org/Protocols/

klaus_kinski_Jr

12-05-2006, 06:41 AM

sorry about shooting that shit to the sky.

Heres a better link: http://www.slate.com/id/2154694/

FMJeff

12-05-2006, 10:12 AM

any word on a next season? In my opinion this season rivals even the season set at the docks. I didn't realize the level of disparity in oppressed urban educational systems. The "No Child Left Behind" Law has really fucked up the educational system, and the resistance (in the show anyway) to new programs is embarassing. Hard to summarize a season in one post, but I was really moved by the message and look forward to another season if possible.

klaus_kinski_Jr

12-05-2006, 10:24 AM

It's coming back for one more season, in the interview link I
posted Simon talks about some things for Season 5.

JimBeam

12-06-2006, 08:51 AM

Good season finale ( especially the extra 19 minutes or so ).Could anybody make out what they were saying about Herc in his hearing or was that just to lead us up to next year ?Nice ploy bringing McNulty back for the last season.I thought the Greek had skipped town altogether ?Gonna miss Bodie though. As much as he was a pain in the butt he was a good character.***FURIOUS MODERATOR EDIT***Motherfucker, put the goddamn fucking spoilers in WHITE TEXT.  Not everyone watches On Demand and won't get to see the episode until Sunday.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 12-6-06 @ 1:59 PM

Freakshow

12-07-2006, 07:02 AM

JimBeam wrote: Good season finale ( especially the extra 19 minutes or so ).Could anybody make out what they were saying about Herc in his hearing or was that just to lead us up to next year ?Nice ploy bringing McNulty back for the last season.I thought the Greek had skipped town altogether ?Gonna miss Bodie though. As much as he wasÿa pain in the butt he was a good character.***FURIOUS MODERATOR EDIT***Motherfucker, put the goddamn fucking spoilers in WHITE TEXT.ÿ Not everyone watches On Demand and won't get to see the episode until Sunday.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 12-6-06 @ 1:59 PM

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Still think Michael has some good in him? 
It wasn't actually the Greek, it was Spiros. And he could have just come into town from wherever they moved their operations.
 
I don't quite buy the McNulty/Bodie thing. It was a bit sloppy for McNulty. I'm not sure I believe it would go down like that.

JimBeam

12-07-2006, 11:22 AM

My apologies but I really didnt give away all that much.If it'll make you feel beter you can have a months free On Demand on me. It's only gonna set me back 5 bucks.

PapaBear

12-10-2006, 11:30 PM

This is close to the T-shirt... LOVED IT!!!<img src="http://campkitsch.com/images/designs/states/wisconsin4.gif" border="0" width="200" height="200" />

Earlshog

12-11-2006, 05:19 AM

Any word on an approx time for season 5?

tbonesteak

12-11-2006, 08:16 AM

Damn!  What a fucking GREAT finale.R.I.P. Bodie.  You were one of the best characters on television.  Totally didn't see that coming (I was on vacation and didn't see the spoiler luckily because i would have been PISSED to read that beforehand).  I'm glad to see McNulty getting back into the game.  That was a great scene between the two of them.It didn't take long for Carcetti to become another self-serving asshole politician.  This show is so cynical, I love it.  If the Wire were on NBC, Carcetti would have cleaned up the streets, Randy would have moved in with Carver, and Michael would have seen the err of his ways.This show it so powerful and realistic sometimes it hurts.  I just kept getting more and more frustrated.  Nothing ever works out for any of these guys.  They certainly set things up nicely for next season while still resolving everything well enough this season.  By the way, best side plot this season was hands down the diamond ring that kept getting passed along.  I almost shit myself when Marlow saw Michael wearing it.  I also think Carver and Prez deserve much respect for their role in show this year.  Those 2 have come so far.  I can't fucking wait for Season 5.  BRAVO to Simon and Burns!

Reynolds

12-27-2006, 02:28 AM

Didnt start watching the wire until season 3, just happened to surf past it, then caught all 3 seasons on demand in time to start season 4.  Never even heard of the show before i caught it by accident, Now it's probably my favorite show ever, too bad no one watches it. My mom got me Homicide life on the street complete series DVD set (about 40 discs) on disc 2 now, diggin it already. BTW if anyone is interested in the wire and doesnt have HBO, it starts on BET soon, hope its not too watered down for tv.

GonzoStyle

12-27-2006, 06:48 AM

I have been a loyal viewer of this show from day one and this past season is my second favorite season, since the first one. A lot of people liked season 2 but I was not a fan because it strayed away from season one to a point that it seemed like 2 different shows. Season 3 was much improved and I didnt think the show could be as good with the death of Stringer. But increasing Omars screen time and decreasing Mcnultys was a good move, plus the story lines were just so great. Everything with the schools brought back a ton of memories, my school wasnt that bad but pretty bad.I didnt really agree with killing Bodie, I see the point for Michaels character but he didnt have to kill Bodie in particular.Omar is by far one of the most inrtuiging characters ever on TV. Stringer was my 2nd favorite but this season, who didnt love Snoop... that is once you remembered back to season 2 and realized he was a she.I really hope they dont bring back the greeks again for next season but after seasons 3 & 4, they got my faith.

Earlshog

12-27-2006, 07:18 AM

GonzoStyle wrote: I have been a loyal viewer of this show from day one and this past season is my second favorite season, since the first one. A lot of people liked season 2 but I was not a fan because it strayed away from season one to a point that it seemed like 2 different shows. Season 3 was much improved and I didnt think the show could be as good with the death of Stringer. But increasing Omars screen time and decreasing Mcnultys was a good move, plus the story lines were just so great. Everything with the schools brought back a ton of memories, my school wasnt that bad but pretty bad.I didnt really agree with killing Bodie, I see the point for Michaels character but he didnt have to kill Bodie in particular.Omar is by far one of the most inrtuiging characters ever on TV. Stringer was my 2nd favorite but this season, who didnt love Snoop... that is once you remembered back to season 2 and realized he was a she.I really hope they dont bring back the greeks again for next season but after seasons 3 & 4, they got my faith.Michael didn't kill Bodie... The Kid who shot Cutty did...

Zorro

12-27-2006, 07:34 AM

Earlshog wrote: GonzoStyle wrote: I have been a loyal viewer of this show from day one and this past season is my second favorite season, since the first one. A lot of people liked season 2 but I was not a fan because it strayed away from season one to a point that it seemed like 2 different shows. Season 3 was much improved and I didnt think the show could be as good with the death of Stringer. But increasing Omars screen time and decreasing Mcnultys was a good move, plus the story lines were just so great. Everything with the schools brought back a ton of memories, my school wasnt that bad but pretty bad.I didnt really agree with killing Bodie, I see the point for Michaels character but he didnt have to kill Bodie in particular.Omar is by far one of the most inrtuiging characters ever on TV. Stringer was my 2nd favorite but this season, who didnt love Snoop... that is once you remembered back to season 2 and realized he was a she.I really hope they dont bring back the greeks again for next season but after seasons 3 & 4, they got my faith.Michael didn't kill Bodie... The Kid who shot Cutty did... Michael killed Bodie...

GonzoStyle

12-27-2006, 07:37 AM

Yeah, Michael Killed Bodie, it was him finally crossing over the last line in his characters transformation.The killing was symbolic for michaels character development but it didnt have to be Bodie, I just like Bodies character, hes been around since season 1 and was never really a main character but he was always around and one of the few characters still around from the barksdale crew.

Earlshog

12-27-2006, 07:47 AM

No Michael 100% didn't kill Bodie... Trust me I watched it like 10 times in slow mo. It was the kid who shot Cutty in the foot that walked up on Bodie and took him out. Michael killed someone else.... After he shot the dude he jumped in the truck and had the flash to helping his brother with his homeowrk, which I guess can be interperted as either the end of his childhood or the reason he did that was to save his brother... then Chirs said "you can look him in the eye now" which was either a reference to Marlo or adults in general (playing into the sexual abuse angle)

GonzoStyle

12-27-2006, 07:49 AM

Earlshog wrote: No Michael 100% didn't kill Bodie... Trust me I watched it like 10 times in slow mo. It was the kid who shot Cutty in the foot that walked up on Bodie and took him out. Michael killed someone else.... After he shot the dude he jumped in the truck and had the flash to helping his brother with his homeowrk, which I guess can be interperted as either the end of his childhood or the reason he did that was to save his brother... then Chirs said "you can look him in the eye now" which was either a reference to Marlo or adults in general (playing into the sexual abuse angle)oh ok, my bad after you explained it I remembered the scene.I saw it on demand the week before, I apologize you are correct he walked up on some dude in the alley.Now that I remember Bodies killing makes sense, then. Cause it firstly shoots home what Bodie said about Marlo not being like the old crew leaders, cause he just kills cause he can. Plus it gives McNulty that fuel to take down Marlo cause he will feel responsible for Bodies death.

This message was edited by GonzoStyle on 12-27-06 @ 11:51 AM

Earlshog

12-27-2006, 08:07 AM

GonzoStyle wrote: Earlshog wrote: No Michael 100% didn't kill Bodie... Trust me I watched it like 10 times in slow mo. It was the kid who shot Cutty in the foot that walked up on Bodie and took him out. Michael killed someone else.... After he shot the dude he jumped in the truck and had the flash to helping his brother with his homeowrk, which I guess can be interperted as either the end of his childhood or the reason he did that was to save his brother... then Chirs said "you can look him in the eye now" which was either a reference to Marlo or adults in general (playing into the sexual abuse angle)oh ok, my bad after you explained it I remembered the scene.I saw it on demand the week before, I apologize you are correct he walked up on some dude in the alley.Now that I remember Bodies killing makes sense, then. Cause it firstly shoots home what Bodie said about Marlo not being like the old crew leaders, cause he just kills cause he can. Plus it gives McNulty that fuel to take down Marlo cause he will feel responsible for Bodies death.This message was edited by GonzoStyle on 12-27-06 @ 11:51 AM Barksdale was very thorough as well. He didn't like to leave himself open to anything. Bodie was either to young to see that or just felt it was okay when it was his guy was dropping bodies all over Baltimore. Avons downfall was his number two was a "weak" businessman not a "hard" gangsta. Don't lose sight that Marlo made the right play as Bodie was going to move against him by takin to the cops.