iPhone Thread

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's a few cool features of 3.0 that slipped under the radar that I like:

1. You can listen to podcasts or audiobooks at double the speed.

2. Notes sync to your computer (either to Mac Mail on a Mac, or Outllook on a PC). Very handy.

3. You can slow down the rate at which you fast forward or rewind through a song by sliding your finger down. You can change it to go through at full speed, or half speed.

I'm still exploring it, but I do like these three, and I don't recall them really being mentioned much.

[sailor]

Here's a few cool features of 3.0 that slipped under the radar that I like:

1. You can listen to podcasts or audiobooks at double the speed.

2. Notes sync to your computer (either to Mac Mail on a Mac, or Outllook on a PC). Very handy.

3. You can slow down the rate at which you fast forward or rewind through a song by sliding your finger down. You can change it to go through at full speed, or half speed.

I'm still exploring it, but I do like these three, and I don't recall them really being mentioned much.

i can't figure out that fast forward. first, i can only get it to go down to half-speed, but when it's pulled down it won't advance. when i return my finger to the regular fast-forward bar, it returns to full speed. i'm not lifting my finger, what am i doing wrong?

[Space Edge]

did any one get the 3GS or is anyone planing on getting it ?

[KnoxHarrington]

did any one get the 3GS or is anyone planing on getting it ?

At this point, I can't get the subsidized price until January, and at that point I'd probably just wait until May or June or whenever to see if there's a new one next year.

I'd also be curious if, perhaps, it became available on other carriers, especially Verizon, at that point as well. I don't have the complaints about AT&T other people seem to, but I'd think about switching.

[Doctor Manhattan]

At this point, I can't get the subsidized price until January, and at that point I'd probably just wait until May or June or whenever to see if there's a new one next year.

I'd also be curious if, perhaps, it became available on other carriers, especially Verizon, at that point as well. I don't have the complaints about AT&T other people seem to, but I'd think about switching.

Exactly the same story with me. I can't get the "good" price until March, so might as well wait until June/July for the 4th iPhone. Verizon would be great but more than that I was really not impressed with the 3G S.

[joeyballsack]

Loved using the SiriusXM app today.

Well worth the extra $3. If Sirius market it rights, it'll be huge, but it didn't help their causing any that Howard dug his heels in and isn't on the app, and nearly every bit of press about it today was about exactly that.


Oh, and the MLB app added live streaming video for select games each day. Watched a few innings of the A's/Dodgers game last night...works great.

Ya know..the XM app is nice, but its really incomplete.

The third party app that was done away with for XM/Sirius was going to have album art and I think even song lyrics on demand. The version we got has none of the above and I am wondering why. The fact that it cant be ran in the background is really pretty annoying also.

[paulisded]

Has anybody got the MLB live baseball feed to work? The last two days I've clicked on a game and it's spent a half hour verifying my location before giving me an error message.

[BeefJerkyJerry]

I went out and got the iPhone 3Gs.. The voice recognition it is pretty damn sweet..!!

[ChrisTheCop]

Dunno why it took a few days, but I was indeed able to update my original Iphone.

Sadly, the update got rid of my apps that I had gotten elsewhere...but all in all I'm just happy to still be in with the in crowd.

[Space Edge]

Dunno why it took a few days, but I was indeed able to update my original Iphone.

Sadly, the update got rid of my apps that I had gotten elsewhere...but all in all I'm just happy to still be in with the in crowd.

You can jailbreak again very easy, much easier then the directions that were posted last time.

http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/126465561/trois-drei-h-rom
This only applies to the original iPhone and iPhone3G they are havhing problems jailbreaking the 3GS

[KnoxHarrington]

So I picked up a cheap set of bluetooth headphones at Best Buy, and I'm now giving the stereo bluetooth capabilty added by 3.0 out.

Damn, this is sweet. It sounds good -- these aren't the best headphones ever, but given their capability, the music sounds as good and as clear as if they were plugged in. Plus, if I wanted to make a call or got a call while I was listening, I wouldn't have to take them off; there's a mic in them.

Stereo bluetooth is probably one of those things that should have been in the iPhone from the beginning, but now that we do have it, it's pretty sweet. I'd really consider upgrading to a nice bluetooth headset. Fuck cords.

[Hottub]

How much did you pay? I should jump on this. I am currently using my BBerry wired set. Also with the built in mic.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

OMG I just downloaded Wild West Pinball today and it is fuccin great!!!

GET IT NOW!!! :thumbup:

[KnoxHarrington]

How much did you pay? I should jump on this. I am currently using my BBerry wired set. Also with the built in mic.

I found these headphones at Best Buy for $29.95. They're Insignia headphones, which I think is a house brand there.

[K.C.]

Ya know..the XM app is nice, but its really incomplete.

The third party app that was done away with for XM/Sirius was going to have album art and I think even song lyrics on demand. The version we got has none of the above and I am wondering why. The fact that it cant be ran in the background is really pretty annoying also.

I don't think any audio app runs in the background. You've got a point with the album art...Pandora offers it. But, at the same time, I almost always turn off my screen to conserve battery life, because most of the apps along with the 3G just suck the battery life dry.

So it's only a minor gripe, I thi k. Still like the app.

I bought a stereo dock for the iPhone and have been listening to the MLB app and Sirius app while I'm outside. All of it have been great investments.

[Hottub]

I got the Bose SoundBase thingy for Christmas a few years ago, when I got my Nano. The sound is spectacular. The problem is (albeit small) the iPhone or touch are not chargeable with this unit. Is there a fix, or firmware update to correct this?
I use it all the time. When friends come over, they also like to dock and play their music.

[K.C.]

I got the Bose SoundBase thingy for Christmas a few years ago, when I got my Nano. The sound is spectacular. The problem is (albeit small) the iPhone or touch are not chargeable with this unit. Is there a fix, or firmware update to correct this?
I use it all the time. When friends come over, they also like to dock and play their music.

I noticed when I bought my thing for the iPhone that a lot of the boxes will specifically say whether it's iPhone compatible. And I've also noticed that if I try to use an old wall charger for my old classic iPod on the iPhone, it willsay on the iPhone to unplug it
because it's not compatible.

So my guess is that your thing probably
predates before they started incorporating iPhone compatibility into these products.

There'd be no firmware update on Apple's end...they only do it for their products There might be a hack, but I doubt it.

[K.C.]

By the way, I recommend adding the AOL Radio and iheart radio apps.

The AOL one carries a lot of the CBS stations nationwide and the iheart cares the ClearChannel ones...between
the two, you can get a whole lot of local stations around the country.

It's kind of fun to jump in on sports talk station or news talk station at random and catch a break or two to see what's going on around the country.

[KnoxHarrington]

I noticed when I bought my thing for the iPhone that a lot of the boxes will specifically say whether it's iPhone compatible. And I've also noticed that if I try to use an old wall charger for my old classic iPod on the iPhone, it willsay on the iPhone to unplug it
because it's not compatible.

So my guess is that your thing probably
predates before they started incorporating iPhone compatibility into these products.

There'd be no firmware update on Apple's end...they only do it for their products There might be a hack, but I doubt it.

If you get that message, just try it. As you just said, that just means that the iPhone can't find the little digital signature they put in devices now to certify it's OK to use with an iPhone, but that doesn't mean it won't work.

The problem you will run into on a lot of these devices, though, is that they lack shielding from radio interference, and you might get that annoying-ass cell phone buzz you get if you put a phone too close to a powered speaker. If I'm not sure, I test it out by checking for mail.

This seems to be far less of a problem on the G3 phones than on the original phone.

[paulisded]

I noticed when I bought my thing for the iPhone that a lot of the boxes will specifically say whether it's iPhone compatible. And I've also noticed that if I try to use an old wall charger for my old classic iPod on the iPhone, it willsay on the iPhone to unplug it
because it's not compatible.

So my guess is that your thing probably
predates before they started incorporating iPhone compatibility into these products.

There'd be no firmware update on Apple's end...they only do it for their products There might be a hack, but I doubt it.

There won't be a firmware update, as the reason it doesn't work on some older accessories is that there is a slight difference in the iPhone/iTouch plug. It still fits and plays fine, but it won't charge.

[sailor]

ok, this might be more of an itunes question, but: what's the easiest way to move your itunes collection and account from one computer to another. i had heard you could have your account on 3 computers, but when i went to synch my iphone with a new computer it said it would delete all the songs (and everything else) from my phone and add the music from the new computer (of which there is effectively none).

[EliSnow]

ok, this might be more of an itunes question, but: what's the easiest way to move your itunes collection and account from one computer to another. i had heard you could have your account on 3 computers, but when i went to synch my iphone with a new computer it said it would delete all the songs (and everything else) from my phone and add the music from the new computer (of which there is effectively none).

I believe that you need to copy your entire library of songs on to the new computer, and then load the songs onto the iTunes on that computer.

As for the account, you can log in onto iTunes using the Apple ID you used on your other computer.

I've done this about three times so far as I've gotten new computers.

[sailor]

I believe that you need to copy your entire library of songs on to the new computer, and then load the songs onto the iTunes on that computer.

As for the account, you can log in onto iTunes using the Apple ID you used on your other computer.

I've done this about three times so far as I've gotten new computers.

everything i have is on the phone. is there a way to just download everything from there?

[EliSnow]

everything i have is on the phone. is there a way to just download everything from there?

It's not on another computer already?

There's probably a way to hack it there. I don't know it though.

[sailor]

It's not on another computer already?

There's probably a way to hack it there. I don't know it though.

i have it on computer a and my iphone and want to move it to computer b. i assumed synching would work, but no. what's the easiest way to do this? i don't know from computers and have only had itunes for like 5 months.

[EliSnow]

i have it on computer a and my iphone and want to move it to computer b. i assumed synching would work, but no. what's the easiest way to do this? i don't know from computers and have only had itunes for like 5 months.

Yeah, syncing doesn't download songs from you iPhone to your library (unless you purchased the song on your iPhone). Synching makes sure your iPhone matches your computer library.

You can't do this through iTunes.

[sailor]

Yeah, syncing doesn't download songs from you iPhone to your library (unless you purchased the song on your iPhone). Synching makes sure your iPhone matches your computer library.

You can't do this through iTunes.

so, how? and itunes blows, then.

[EliSnow]

so, how? and itunes blows, then.

Like I said, the only way I know is to copy the music from computer a to computer b.

[EliSnow]

so, how? and itunes blows, then.

Well, it was designed that way so that you couldn't just take songs off any iPod from others and add the music to your library.

[sailor]

Like I said, the only way I know is to copy the music from computer a to computer b.



like i said i don't know how to do that. that was my original point.

Well, it was designed that way so that you couldn't just take songs off any iPod from others and add the music to your library.

but i'm not trying to add someone else's music. it's associated with my account, which it should be able to see.

[EliSnow]

like i said i don't know how to do that. that was my original point.

There cheap transfer programs out there. You just need that program and USB cable or other cable between computers.


but i'm not trying to add someone else's music. it's associated with my account, which it should be able to see.

Your iPhone is tied to your account, but the music is tied to a certain library on a certain computer.

[paulisded]

I've copied my ipod's libraries directly from the player a number of times using a program called Ipodcopy. There are torrents out there for free versions, but this last time I actually paid for the program. It's very easy to use, and even keeps your play counts.

[Space Edge]

They are slowly rolling out MMS for the iPhone if your interested in getting it a couple of weeks earlier give this a read it requires no jailbreak. Just follow the directions and you will be able to send MMS

http://spaceedge.posterous.com/how-to-activate-mms-on-the-iphone-with-os-301

[Suspect Chin]

The app "MailboxFind" is pretty useful if you travel a lot and need to find a nearby mailbox or UPS Store quickly.

[led37zep]

People can't hear me 50% of the time I call them. Its getting pretty annoying.

I've backed up and restored, shut down and left off for a few hours...still nothing seems to correct this problem.
Its a first gen iphone so its probably had enough and slowly starting to die.

Anyone else have any ideas aside from "its the network".

[Space Edge]

People can't hear me 50% of the time I call them. Its getting pretty annoying.

I've backed up and restored, shut down and left off for a few hours...still nothing seems to correct this problem.
Its a first gen iphone so its probably had enough and slowly starting to die.

Anyone else have any ideas aside from "its the network".

Did you buy the apple care protection plan for the phone? If so you can just take it into the apple store and they will swap it out for you if there is something wrong with the phone. If you didn't get the apple protection plan look into it it's worth the $70.

[drusilla]

we switched to at&t about 2 weeks ago & both got iphones.

i'm sooooooo happy. i think this is the most useful object ever.

i may still be in the honeymoon phase with it though cause i really have no complaints so far.

verizon service may have been better for calls, but this thing just has way too much to offer.

[led37zep]

My new favorite app!

http://www.tripcase.com/

[BlackSpider]

Just jumped on the bandwagon last night. I should get it Wednesday...

[Ritalin]

My new favorite app!

http://www.tripcase.com/

I've had my eye on that. It works well? Keeps all your confirmation numbers and such?

[led37zep]

I've had my eye on that. It works well? Keeps all your confirmation numbers and such?

Its pretty easy for keeping your travel all in one place. Hotel, Flights, Cars.

I've booked all my flights through airline websites but the app says they've partnered with some travel sites so you should be able to upload your confirmation number and it will transfer all your travel details into the app.

So far I've used the manual input method and it works out pretty cool. Updates me on gates, delays, and shuttle vans for car rentals. I'm digging it so far.

[sailor]

it's gotten pretty crappy reviews overall. like a 2 out of 5.

[led37zep]

it's gotten pretty crappy reviews overall. like a 2 out of 5.

Well if you like to be a follower go ahead and listen to them.

[sailor]

Well if you like to be a follower go ahead and listen to them.

you're right, we should just follow you instead.

[Space Edge]

If you have a iPhone or iTouch download a Free App called PING it's like BBM for the Iphone/iTouch

My Screen name there is SpaceEdge

Ping Me

[paulisded]

If you have a iPhone or iTouch download a Free App called PING it's like BBM for the Iphone/iTouch

My Screen name there is SpaceEdge

Ping Me

Will do tonight.

[led37zep]

you're right, we should just follow you instead.

Follow me to the promise land my friend...I won't lead you astray.

[Space Edge]

Will do tonight.

cool it's a free app and a free way to send messages so far it's pretty neat.

[sailor]

Love ping. Love that sailor was available as well.

[BlackSpider]

If you have a iPhone or iTouch download a Free App called PING it's like BBM for the Iphone/iTouch

My Screen name there is SpaceEdge

Ping Me


Big Beautiful Men...???

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

charlie_dont_surf on ping!

[Space Edge]

Big Beautiful Men...???

:wub:

[paulisded]

yay, paulisded was available!

[Hottub]

hottub

[oh_kee_pa]

is anyone going to/has anyone picked up the Skydock?

[sailor]

is anyone going to/has anyone picked up the Skydock?

shit, i might get that and cancel my regular sub.

[KnoxHarrington]

About time Sirius recognized that there's no future in putting out their own receivers, and whatever future they do have is going to lie in making it easier to stream online

[Space Edge]

If you use Pocket Tunes to stream Sirius/XM on your iPhone you can now record the stream!

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/pockettunes-now-you-can-record-satellite-radio-on-your-iphone.html

[sailor]

shit, i might get that and cancel my regular sub.

when I went to their site I realised this wasn't for streaming the signal, but rather is a stand-alone receiver operated inconjunction with your iPhone. :(

[Space Edge]

when I went to their site I realised this wasn't for streaming the signal, but rather is a stand-alone receiver operated inconjunction with your iPhone. :(

Yeah , Remeber earlier in this thread or another thread you asked if you could record the stream with the iPhone app well now with the latest PocketTunes update you can do that. The app is worth the 6 bucks. I just recorded the last 15 mins of Ron and Fez and it works perfectly.

[sailor]

If you use Pocket Tunes to stream Sirius/XM on your iPhone you can now record the stream!

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/pockettunes-now-you-can-record-satellite-radio-on-your-iphone.html

do you need the premium online account for pocket tunes?

[sailor]

Yeah , Remeber earlier in this thread or another thread you asked if you could record the stream with the iPhone app well now with the latest PocketTunes update you can do that. The app is worth the 6 bucks. I just recorded the last 15 mins of Ron and Fez and it works perfectly.

Yeah, I was excited when I saw you post earlier.

[Space Edge]

do you need the premium online account for pocket tunes?

I'm not exactly sure if it requires the premium account.

[sailor]

I'm not exactly sure if it requires the premium account.

that article makes it sound like you don't need premium account.

[Space Edge]

that article makes it sound like you don't need premium account.

I just sent the developer a tweet asking that question if they dont respond i'll shoot them a email for you.

[sailor]

I just sent the developer a tweet asking that question if they dont respond i'll shoot them a email for you.

you rock. I just want to move to an online sub and stream thru phone and not have to carry additional device. That would be so helpful.

[paulisded]

you rock. I just want to move to an online sub and stream thru phone and not have to carry additional device. That would be so helpful.

I downloaded the Pocket Tunes update last night, and the recording function is a nice addition. You can't program it to record, though, but it's a nice thing to have if there's a bit I really like or if I have to quit listening for a few minutes.

Plus, Pocket Tunes has a ton of other stations available so it really is worth the few bucks it costs.

[Space Edge]

you rock. I just want to move to an online sub and stream thru phone and not have to carry additional device. That would be so helpful.

@Space_Edge glad u like the new feature! You need a Sirius account that includes Sirius Online Internet Radio support.

I'm guessing that includes XM also since XM is who I subscribe through. I know you can change the settings in the app to stream at 32k, 64k and 128k. If anything go for the premium streaming if it doesn't work. But I think it should work since this isn't a product put out by Sirius/XM it's something that uses music dock so maybe they don't check for the premium credentials.

[NickyL0885]

I'm now one of you. i got the 16gb iPhone 3G S

[KnoxHarrington]

I'm now one of you. i got the 16gb iPhone 3G S

http://www.olgabaclanova.com/pictures/freaks/104_gooble_gobble_med.jpg

WE ACCEPT YOU
ONE OF US
WE ACCEPT YOU
ONE OF US

GOOBLE GOBBLE
GOBBLE GOOBLE

WE ACCEPT YOU
ONE OF US

[NickyL0885]

So, at first, I was able to watch videos without issue. Now, after I press play, they start like normal, then stop. I keep hitting play but nothing happens. I restart the phone, and then the videos play fine. By videos, i mean youtube, tv.com app. :help::help:

[Ritalin]

So, at first, I was able to watch videos without issue. Now, after I press play, they start like normal, then stop. I keep hitting play but nothing happens. I restart the phone, and then the videos play fine. By videos, i mean youtube, tv.com app. :help::help:

Are you letting them load? If you're watching them on 3G it's hardly worth it. On Wifi it's fine, but on 3G most longer youtube vids won't load completely.

[drusilla]

when I went to their site I realised this wasn't for streaming the signal, but rather is a stand-alone receiver operated inconjunction with your iPhone. :(

wait, what does it do?

i'm really looking for any other option that trying to rig my myfi. it hardly works anymore & sometimes only works with the house antenna in my car.

[sailor]

wait, what does it do?

i'm really looking for any other option that trying to rig my myfi. it hardly works anymore & sometimes only works with the house antenna in my car.

think of the car stereos with the removable faceplate. now imagine your iphone is that faceplate. ugh.

[Space Edge]

Video on the iPhone 2G and 3G without jailbreaking

http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/15/apple-enables-video-iphone-2g-3g/

not bad so far worth the 99 cent app

[Suspect Chin]

Two simple things the iPhone has that I wish Apple would incorporate into iTunes:

-The 30 second quick rewind button that helps you remember what they were talking about if you step away from a podcast of your favorite radio show for a while:

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd336/chris1739/IMG_0136.png

-Ability to view chapters of a podcast:

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd336/chris1739/IMG_0137.png

[Space Edge]

I got the XM Skydock as a early Christmas present, definitely recommend it.

http://nonphone.com/images/2009/0905/Sirius-XM-SkyDock.jpg

http://reviews.cnet.com/i/bto/20091006/SkyDock_In-vehicle_landscape.jpg

[Suspect Chin]

Does it broadcast to your car's radio? If so, how well does it work in the city?

[Space Edge]

Does it broadcast to your car's radio? If so, how well does it work in the city?

It works like this. Your iPhone/iTouch is the receiver. When you place it in the Skydock and open the app (different app then the Sirius/XM online app) you can listen like a normal receiver. It has a very good FM modulator or you can hook up via a AUX or tape deck. and it will play through your vehicles sound system. I have mine hooked up via the FM modulator and it sounds really good. Easy to set up just plug the skydock in and run the satellite antenna and it works. You can also use the Skydock to listen to other "audio" apps, like the iPod player on the phone/touch , slacker, last.fm and whatever else. The app it uses is great it has a tag feature so if you hear a song you like you can tag it and then it will open the song you tagged in iTunes and let you purchase it.

[Space Edge]

Video on the iPhone 2G and 3G without jailbreaking

http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/15/apple-enables-video-iphone-2g-3g/

not bad so far worth the 99 cent app

Anoter way to shoot video on the iPhone 2G and the iPhone3G Quk Live and it's free.
http://mashable.com/2009/12/24/qik-live-stream/

[Space Edge]

There are like 5 or 6 apps in the app store that let you shoot video on your original iPhone or iPhone3G. Hopefully they will continue to update the apps and apple will loosen up a little bit and allow them to record at a higher FPS
http://www.cultofmac.com/flurry-of-new-apps-turn-aging-iphones-into-vidcams/24439?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cultofmac%2FbFow+%28Cult+of+M ac%29

[sr71blackbird]

Is there such a thing as Flash Player for iPhone/iPod Touch?

[KnoxHarrington]

Is there such a thing as Flash Player for iPhone/iPod Touch?

I think there are jailbroken Flash players, but not officially. Apple and Adobe have had a long-time, prolonged pissing match over it.

[sr71blackbird]

It sucks because much of what I enjoy seems to need that frickin plug-in!

[joeyballsack]

Is there an NFL app or some other way to listen to NFL games available on the iPhone ?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is there an NFL app or some other way to listen to NFL games available on the iPhone ?

I know I'm extremely late to the party on this, but no.

NHL has an exclusive deal with Verizon.

the NFL and NASCAR have an exclsuive deal with Sprint.

Not sure who the NBA deals with...

And last year, MLB was on Iphone. Not sure if that will continue, I hope it does, because I really want to hear game audio at work.

[Space Edge]

iPhone 4.0 OS announcement on Thursday


On the heels of the introduction of the iPad, Apple is ready to talk about the next version of iPhone 0S.

The company sent media invitations Monday morning to an event where it will reveal iPhone OS 4.0. There were scant details, simply an e-mail with the above image that said, "Get a sneak peek into the future of iPhone OS."

It will take place on the Apple campus at 10 a.m. Thursday. There have been some hints as to what might be in the new software, including perhaps multitasking, which has been rumored to have an Expose-like interface.

We'll be live-blogging the event, so be sure to come back here Thursday morning.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20001742-260.html

[GalvinBrown]

Cool and Healthy discussion running over here for iPhones.I appreciate all the participant of this discussion,I also want some suggestion for my iPhone,I hope that you guys help me to solve that proble.."My Iphone is stuck on my message screen no matter what I click it can't move past this screen what should I do?"

[Space Edge]

Cool and Healthy discussion running over here for iPhones.I appreciate all the participant of this discussion,I also want some suggestion for my iPhone,I hope that you guys help me to solve that proble.."My Iphone is stuck on my message screen no matter what I click it can't move past this screen what should I do?"

Hold down the home button and the top button and have it reset.

[KnoxHarrington]

Hold down the home button and the top button and have it reset.

You can almost break any troubleshooting on an iPhone (and probably an iPod Touch and iPad, by extension) to these steps:

1. Reboot. Hold the top button down until the "Slide to power off" icon appears. Turn it off and back on.

2. Reset. Hold both the top and the home button down until you see the Apple logo appear.

3. Restore. Plug the iPhone into a computer running iTunes (preferably the one you sync it with) and click on "Restore software."

And if that doesn't work...

4. Repair. Go to the Apple Store and get a new one.

[KnoxHarrington]

Predictions for tomorrow:

1. Multi-tasking. The interface will be vaguely based on Expose on a Mac. I can see Apple imposing a limit of, say, 3 apps or so, but that's cool, I just wanna be able to go get my email if I'm listening to Pandora.

2. New model with more memory, bigger processor, etc.

3. Also, front-facing camera, and possibly a flash (but not Flash.)

I don't think there'll be all that much, really. One thing I predict will not be announced tomorrow: the iPhone going to Verizon. Though that does look more likely all the time.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Predictions for tomorrow:

1. Multi-tasking. The interface will be vaguely based on Expose on a Mac. I can see Apple imposing a limit of, say, 3 apps or so, but that's cool, I just wanna be able to go get my email if I'm listening to Pandora.

2. New model with more memory, bigger processor, etc.

3. Also, front-facing camera, and possibly a flash (but not Flash.)

I don't think there'll be all that much, really. One thing I predict will not be announced tomorrow: the iPhone going to Verizon. Though that does look more likely all the time.

They don't announce new models until June. And I guarantee that the VZW announcement will be Jobs' "...and one more thing."

If they introduce multitasking I'll unjailbreak my Touch.

[KnoxHarrington]

They don't announce new models until June. And I guarantee that the VZW announcement will be Jobs' "...and one more thing."

If they introduce multitasking I'll unjailbreak my Touch.

I'm betting multitasking will not be full-on, just have-at-it and run whatever you want...Apple is too worrie d about battery life and system stability. But yeah, multitasking, to me, has always been the one really compelling reason to jailbreak.

[Space Edge]

Predictions for tomorrow:

1. Multi-tasking. The interface will be vaguely based on Expose on a Mac. I can see Apple imposing a limit of, say, 3 apps or so, but that's cool, I just wanna be able to go get my email if I'm listening to Pandora.

2. New model with more memory, bigger processor, etc.

3. Also, front-facing camera, and possibly a flash (but not Flash.)

I don't think there'll be all that much, really. One thing I predict will not be announced tomorrow: the iPhone going to Verizon. Though that does look more likely all the time.

They don't announce new models until June. And I guarantee that the VZW announcement will be Jobs' "...and one more thing."

If they introduce multitasking I'll unjailbreak my Touch.

I'm betting multitasking will not be full-on, just have-at-it and run whatever you want...Apple is too worrie d about battery life and system stability. But yeah, multitasking, to me, has always been the one really compelling reason to jailbreak.


Yeah the main reason I jailbreak is for the multitasking. There are a lot of apps in the apple store now that are kinda using a form of multitasking. I know the MLB At Bat app lets you listen to games in safari in the background. I originally jail broke my phone for two reasons to be able to multi task and to shoot video with cycorder. Now they have released a lot of apps for the iPhone 3G that let you shoot video and they aren't half bad.

I'm hoping they enable video on the 3G, with Cycorder from Cydia you can shoot amazing video. Well equivalent to 3GS video. The older iPhones have the capability to do it as demonstrated by Cycorder. I've read a few rumors about the Expose and having lock screen widgets if those come true looks like implemented some jailbreak features into the new O.S. If they announce Verizon getting the iPhone I think it will happen in June when they announce the new hardware like Matty said. Which I will most likely pick up since I'm eligible for a upgrade.

Either way after tomorrows O.S. Preview the rumor mill will be spinning.

[biggestmexi]

:tongue: :laugh:

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHA

.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The event for the big SOFTWARE unveiling will be today.

What will it BE!?!!??

Here is some rumors:

Multitasking

The most persistent rumor, which also happens to be the one most dear to people’s hearts, is that multitasking for third-party applications will finally come to the iPhone. As it currently stands, only stock apps like iPod, Mail, Messages, Phone and Safari have supported the feature. Newer rumors even have the new OS having an Exposé-like feature which would make it significantly easier for users to switch between applications on the fly.


Global Inbox

Another rumor would finally see the Mail app gain the option for a global mailbox. From the beginning, the iPhone OS has supported multiple mailboxes but required users to individually check each inbox instead of offering a way to view new email from all active accounts in one fell swoop.


Homescreen Contacts

Spotted in age old patents, it is believed Apple will make it possible to add contacts to the home screen. This would essentially enable users to create pseudo applications that do nothing but make it much faster to get in contact with individuals by phone, text, email, IM and so on.


iAd

Previously rumored to be unveiled today, it is now expected that Apple’s “iAd” service will be introduced tomorrow. Born out of Apple’s acquisition of Quattro Wireless, the advertising service is expected to not only allow Apple to further distance itself from smartphone rival Google but also allow for closer ties with developers who will presumably be given the Apple-typical 70% of revenue. The irony? Google stands to benefit from this as the increased competition might finally force the FTC to push through Google’s purchase of AdMob.


OS-wide Multi-Touch

Not much needs to be said about this, but we don’t think there’s such a thing as too much Multi-Touch.

Enhanced Calendar and Address Book sync
This is another one from our Apple connects, although we have to admit we weren’t able to get them to elaborate any further. But that’s okay. We love surprises.


Reworked UI

We’re not saying we’re going to see an entirely fresh design, but there’s a lot of things Apple could improve on in the graphics department. Expect to see a lot of iPad design elements, and even some new ones.


Direct Printing

Finally we have the newest rumor of the bunch, and it has to do with OS 4.0 supporting direct printing. This one is somewhat out there, but the fact that “printing directly from iPad is not currently available” (emphasis ours) is listed in support documents for the iPad version of the iWork apps. Can you imagine how nice it would be to be able to print your documents straight from your iPhone over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth?

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

:tongue: :laugh:

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHA

.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The event for the big SOFTWARE unveiling will be today.

What will it BE!?!!??

Here is some rumors:

Multitasking

The most persistent rumor, which also happens to be the one most dear to people’s hearts, is that multitasking for third-party applications will finally come to the iPhone. As it currently stands, only stock apps like iPod, Mail, Messages, Phone and Safari have supported the feature. Newer rumors even have the new OS having an Exposé-like feature which would make it significantly easier for users to switch between applications on the fly.


Global Inbox

Another rumor would finally see the Mail app gain the option for a global mailbox. From the beginning, the iPhone OS has supported multiple mailboxes but required users to individually check each inbox instead of offering a way to view new email from all active accounts in one fell swoop.


Homescreen Contacts

Spotted in age old patents, it is believed Apple will make it possible to add contacts to the home screen. This would essentially enable users to create pseudo applications that do nothing but make it much faster to get in contact with individuals by phone, text, email, IM and so on.


iAd

Previously rumored to be unveiled today, it is now expected that Apple’s “iAd” service will be introduced tomorrow. Born out of Apple’s acquisition of Quattro Wireless, the advertising service is expected to not only allow Apple to further distance itself from smartphone rival Google but also allow for closer ties with developers who will presumably be given the Apple-typical 70% of revenue. The irony? Google stands to benefit from this as the increased competition might finally force the FTC to push through Google’s purchase of AdMob.


OS-wide Multi-Touch

Not much needs to be said about this, but we don’t think there’s such a thing as too much Multi-Touch.

Enhanced Calendar and Address Book sync
This is another one from our Apple connects, although we have to admit we weren’t able to get them to elaborate any further. But that’s okay. We love surprises.


Reworked UI

We’re not saying we’re going to see an entirely fresh design, but there’s a lot of things Apple could improve on in the graphics department. Expect to see a lot of iPad design elements, and even some new ones.


Direct Printing

Finally we have the newest rumor of the bunch, and it has to do with OS 4.0 supporting direct printing. This one is somewhat out there, but the fact that “printing directly from iPad is not currently available” (emphasis ours) is listed in support documents for the iPad version of the iWork apps. Can you imagine how nice it would be to be able to print your documents straight from your iPhone over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth?

Yeah but can I have wallpapers?

[Space Edge]

Can you not ruin this thread with your biased posts, we have gone 14 pages without your stupid posts. Please go start another thread about this so everyone can ignore you and the people who are interested can talk about this.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Can you not ruin this thread with your biased posts, we have gone 14 pages without your stupid posts. Please go start another thread about this so everyone can ignore you and the people who are interested can talk about this.

Me or Mexi? Because I think it's Mexi. He's such an apple hater, you should see his iPad thread.

[EliSnow]

Can you not ruin this thread with your biased posts, we have gone 14 pages without your stupid posts. Please go start another thread about this so everyone can ignore you and the people who are interested can talk about this.



He did start another thread. I merged them because we're not going to have pro and anti threads on subjects.

[disneyspy]

He did start another thread. I merged them because we're not going to have pro and anti threads on subjects.

psssst,have you seen the obama threads here?

[EliSnow]

psssst,have you seen the obama threads here?

Yeah, I am trying to contain the insanity.

[biggestmexi]

Can you not ruin this thread with your biased posts, we have gone 14 pages without your stupid posts. Please go start another thread about this so everyone can ignore you and the people who are interested can talk about this.

my post had facts!

[Dell]

my post had facts!

that will not be tolerated...

[KnoxHarrington]

my post had facts!

You posted something from some article and then launched into the usual "I'M A L33T H3X0R WHO HATES APPLE" bullshit.

Yeah, yeah, we get it, Steve Jobs is Satan

[Jughead]

You guys are all nerds:smile:

[biggestmexi]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/08/digitimes-research-reports-smaller-ipad-due-out-next-year/




Ahhahahahahaha

[biggestmexi]

You posted something from some article and then launched into the usual "I'M A L33T H3X0R WHO HATES APPLE" bullshit.

Yeah, yeah, we get it, Steve Jobs is Satan

Please show me where.


Who is steve?

[RhinoinMN]

"I'M A L33T H3X0R WHO HATES APPLE"



I am so glad that I don't understand that.

[Dell]

Please show me where.


Who is steve?

who is steve (http://www.notablebiographies.com/Ho-Jo/Jobs-Steve.html)

[Space Edge]

He did start another thread. I merged them because we're not going to have pro and anti threads on subjects.

Thanks(sarcasm) so now the people who are interested in this will have to read through all his bullshit when all he is doing trolling any thread related to Apple. If this were a listening thread or something you have interest in you would have booted him for it.
my post had facts!

Mexi please go to that new RonFeznet website and stay there.

[RhinoinMN]

Thanks(sarcasm) so now the people who are interested in this will have to read through all his bullshit when all he is doing trolling any thread related to Apple. If this were a listening thread or something you have interest in you would have booted him for it.


Mexi please go to that new RonFeznet website and stay there.

I already banned him.

[EliSnow]

Thanks(sarcasm) so now the people who are interested in this will have to read through all his bullshit when all he is doing trolling any thread related to Apple. If this were a listening thread or something you have interest in you would have booted him for it.

have you read the listening threads? People bitch about the show all the time. At some point they get a warning if it goes too far but we rarely boot people for it.

[RhinoinMN]

have you read the listening threads? People bitch about the show all the time. At some point they get a warning if it goes too far but we rarely boot people for it.

Unless your name is walker.:wink:

[disneyspy]

Unless your name is walker.:wink:

that lettuce wrap eatin douche shoulda been banned the second he attacked me and lleeder out of nowhere

[Space Edge]

have you read the listening threads? People bitch about the show all the time. At some point they get a warning if it goes too far but we rarely boot people for it.

So how long can someone troll other threads before they get warnings? Like this thread or the iPad thread which started out as a troll thread. Rules are gay but it would be nice to discuss something without someone trolling because they have some weird obsession with a company they won't buy products from.

[biggestmexi]

I love you space edge.

[biggestmexi]

So how long can someone troll other threads before they get warnings? Like this thread or the iPad thread which started out as a troll thread. Rules are gay but it would be nice to discuss something without someone trolling because they have some weird obsession with a company they won't buy products from.

Exactly. That thread was made to bash the ipad. And the thread has stayed that way since.

But I haven't done anything bad here. I posted facts....or rumors of the new os

[biggestmexi]

I already banned him.

Fuckass

[sailor]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/08/digitimes-research-reports-smaller-ipad-due-out-next-year/




Ahhahahahahaha

Did they lift that from SNL?

[EliSnow]

Unless your name is walker.:wink:

Yeah but look how much rope we gave him.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Did they lift that from SNL?

Introducing the inviso.

[biggestmexi]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/iphone40software/iphone40software6.jpg

outside the event.

must be something on the ground?

[KnoxHarrington]

First feature announced: multitasking.

It'll be a bit limited, in that there are certain core functions that continually run that a 3rd party app can use, but I think for the most part, this takes care of anything you will want to do with multitasking. These examples were shown:

a. Pandora can continue to play audio in the background even if you've switched to another app

b. Skype can receive calls when it's not in the front, and even if the phone itself is locked.

c. Tom-Tom can broadcast turn-by-turn directions, even if it's not the focus app.

This seems to be a good new way of doing it: not full multitasking, perhaps, but enough of it to do what I want. It certainly satisfies my needs for multitasking.

Second feature: folders. You can now put apps in subfolders.

OK, not quite as impressive.

[KnoxHarrington]

Third feature: enhanced Mail app.

a. There's a unified Inbox that shows all accounts' messages in the same one.

b. You can organize messages by "thread" (i.e. the same subject)

c. You can have more than one Exchange account now.

[KnoxHarrington]

Fourth feature: the iBooks app will be coming to the iPhone in version 4.0.

[KnoxHarrington]

Fifth feature: Enterprise stuff. Some blah-blah about encryption and API's. Snooze

[KnoxHarrington]

Sixth feature: GameCenter. Sort of like XBOx Live for the iPhone. It lets you find people to play with, that sort of thign.


Seventh feature: iAds, allowing developers to put ads in apps.

[Space Edge]

So far from just reading what you wrote I like what I'm seeing. I'll have to read more about this later when I have time

[KnoxHarrington]

A note: though 4.0 will be availlabe for all models of the iPhone, multitasking only works on the 3GS, or later models.

[Freitag]

A note: though 4.0 will be availlabe for all models of the iPhone, multitasking only works on the 3GS, or later models.

Makes sense because of the tech upgrades since then.

[KnoxHarrington]

Makes sense because of the tech upgrades since then.

Yeah, I"m sure that when the new iPhone comes out, the 3GS will go to the $99 one.

I'm up for a contract renewal around that point anyway.

[Freitag]

Yeah, I"m sure that when the new iPhone comes out, the 3GS will go to the $99 one.

I'm up for a contract renewal around that point anyway.

If the VZW Iphone comes to fruition, would you jump carriers?

[KnoxHarrington]

If the VZW Iphone comes to fruition, would you jump carriers?

Actually, no. AT&T is just fine where I live.

[paulisded]

So developers have to write special code to enable multifunction?

[KnoxHarrington]

So developers have to write special code to enable multifunction?

Looks like it. And it basically looks like you get to pick from a limited set of functions.

Still, though, from the examples they showed, it'll do pretty much anything I'd want multitasking to do.

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's a good article on how it works:

http://gizmodo.com/5512656/how-multitasking-works-in-the-new-iphone-os?skyline=true&s=i

It's actually very similar to the way it's implemented in Android.

I guess the haters will move from "OMG NO MULTITASKING" to "OMG NO FLASH" as their tired first line of attack now.

[Freitag]

I guess the haters will move from "OMG NO MULTITASKING" to "OMG NO FLASH" as their tired first line of attack now.

please don't give mexi ideas.

[KnoxHarrington]

please don't give mexi ideas.

The attack Im seeing is on the iAds thing. It's being presented as Apple forcing ads into apps.

Never mind that most free apps these days already have ads in them.

[paulisded]

Looks like it. And it basically looks like you get to pick from a limited set of functions.

Still, though, from the examples they showed, it'll do pretty much anything I'd want multitasking to do.

It's a good start, but I'd like to see it more universally implemented. I have all of those personalized station apps downloaded, but I really don't use them that much. What I want is to stream my home library (via Simplify or something similar) and have it scrobbed to last.fm while I check my email, check out sites, or read a book/magazine.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's a good start, but I'd like to see it more universally implemented. I have all of those personalized station apps downloaded, but I really don't use them that much. What I want is to stream my home library (via Simplify or something similar) and have it scrobbed to last.fm while I check my email, check out sites, or read a book/magazine.

I haven't seen the actual SDK, and wouldn't really understand it if I did, but it doesn't seem to be incredibly complicated coding. Just a function call.

[Space Edge]

I'm watching the key note now, I missed all the hubbub earlier today, I iike what I see so far seems like they borrowed a few ideas from the jail break community (App Folders ) I can't wait to see the new Hardware they announce in June. I'll most likely upgrade to the new phone since I have the iPhone3G. I really want an iPad but not sure if I can throw down money on that and then a new phone in a couple of months.

[Space Edge]

This is a feature that I will love

iPhone OS 4.0 spotlight lets you directly search web, Wikipedia
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/iphone-os-4-0-spotlight-lets-you-directly-search-web-wikipedia/

They have a JB version of it and it's very useful (here are screen caps from the JB version)

http://i40.tinypic.com/34opsh5.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/2zoyrdj.png
http://i41.tinypic.com/2iayfki.png
http://i42.tinypic.com/4g0zub.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/9u57kp.png
http://i44.tinypic.com/wb2o7c.png
http://i41.tinypic.com/30uzeq0.png

[Space Edge]

Opera Mini for the iPhone/iTouch/iPad just released and it's very fast.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/opera-mini-web-browser/id363729560?mt=8 #iTunes

[KnoxHarrington]

Opera Mini for the iPhone/iTouch/iPad just released and it's very fast.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/opera-mini-web-browser/id363729560?mt=8 #iTunes

I'm a little surprised that this got approved, actually. Apple has been ruthless about denying any app that "duplicates functionality" -- that is, does something that one of the basic phone apps does. It's the reason they gave for denying the Google Voice app, after all.

I think what happened was that Opera went on the offensive and made a big deal about this app beforehand, and kind of pressured Apple into approving it. Then again, how can Opera pressure Apple into doing something but Google can't?

[biggestmexi]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/14/jailbroken-iphone-3g-shown-running-os-4-0-complete-with-multitasking/


lag.

[KnoxHarrington]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/14/jailbroken-iphone-3g-shown-running-os-4-0-complete-with-multitasking/


lag.

I know that you probably posted this in your constant "OMG APPLE IS TEH SUX0RS" campaign, but this pretty much proves that what Apple said about multitasking on the 3G is true, and it's not some dark conspiracy to make 3G/first gen owners run out and get a 3GS, or whatever's coming 4th generation.

I jailbroke my 3G to do multitasking, and it ran like total shit. It's the main reason I restored the official firmware on my phone.

[biggestmexi]

I know that you probably posted this in your constant "OMG APPLE IS TEH SUX0RS" campaign, but this pretty much proves that what Apple said about multitasking on the 3G is true, and it's not some dark conspiracy to make 3G/first gen owners run out and get a 3GS, or whatever's coming 4th generation.

I jailbroke my 3G to do multitasking, and it ran like total shit. It's the main reason I restored the official firmware on my phone.

srsly though, why cant you overclock it?

[KnoxHarrington]

srsly though, why cant you overclock it?

Because it's a FUCKING PHONE?

[biggestmexi]

Because it's a FUCKING PHONE?

So you are telling me you only use it as a phone?
You jailbroke it for better phone capabilities?
Why not buy just a phone then, if you are so strict on it being a "FUCKING PHONE"?
Why do you need multi-tasking?

I use my phone for more than a phone.

[KnoxHarrington]

So you are telling me you only use it as a phone?
You jailbroke it for better phone capabilities?
Why not buy just a phone then, if you are so strict on it being a "FUCKING PHONE"?
Why do you need multi-tasking?

I use my phone for more than a phone.

OK, I'll go slow and assume you're actually making a point and not doing your usual tired trolling act.

Overclocking a device like an iPhone is not an issue for most people. They don't want to deal with doing it, or the risk of damaging the phone (or at least burning out the battery). It's a device we rely upon for communication, whether it's the phone, or SMS, or even Facebook/Twitter apps. We just want it to work.

Applying the same model of what makes a PC work to a mobile device is foolish. I think, in the end, it's going to hinder Android, because it's just going to get too complicated. There are going to be multiple versions of Android that won't let people use all apps on all phones.

Apple gets this. They got it with the iPhone, they have now gotten it with the iPad. When it comes to a mobile device, people want it to run smoothly and simply. And that's what the iPhone does.

[biggestmexi]

Overclocking a device like an iPhone is not an issue for most people. They don't want to deal with doing it, or the risk of damaging the phone (or at least burning out the battery). It's a device we rely upon for communication, whether it's the phone, or SMS, or even Facebook/Twitter apps. We just want it to work.

You risked your phone when you jailbroke it. So it isn't that much of a problem for you. Why cant you do it to the thousands of jailbroken phones even? The battery life is notoriously terrible on the iphone as it is. As for risk on the droid, there have not been any thread i have seen where some one has burnt the CPU yet from OC. Then why did you jailbreak try jailbreaking it? If you rely on it that much?

Applying the same model of what makes a PC work to a mobile device is foolish. I think, in the end, it's going to hinder Android, because it's just going to get too complicated. There are going to be multiple versions of Android that won't let people use all apps on all phones.

It isn't foolish to try to make these phones into PC's, people are wanting more form their phones now, then ever before. Why do you think they are now making tablet PC's. It is what people want. Android is very close to linux, so its very close to a pc. There is already several version of the Android OS on different phones. There is nothing to compicated about the phone now. You buy one phone your set. It is not like you are buying a phone and switchin the OS's around back and forth.

Apple gets this. They got it with the iPhone, they have now gotten it with the iPad. When it comes to a mobile device, people want it to run smoothly and simply. And that's what the iPhone does.

My droid runs smooth and is very simple. Its extremely fast when it overclocked.

None the less you haven't answer the question of WHY it cannot be OC'ed.

[Freitag]

You risked your phone when you jailbroke it. So it isn't that much of a problem for you. Why cant you do it to the thousands of jailbroken phones even? The battery life is notoriously terrible on the iphone as it is.

Are you seriously comparing a software patch (which is what jailbreaking essentially is) with overclocking? Really?

Also, watch your mouth in discussing battery life. The Droid is no prince in that situation either.

[biggestmexi]

Are you seriously comparing a software patch (which is what jailbreaking essentially is) with overclocking? Really?

Also, watch your mouth in discussing battery life. The Droid is no prince in that situation either.

Yup, sure am.:dry:

Battery life is awesome on the droid. Far greater than the iphone.

[Freitag]

Yup, sure am.:dry:

Battery life is awesome on the droid. Far greater than the iphone.

and you'd know this... how?

As battery life varies from person to person, the only way you can make that statement definitively is if you've used an Iphone regularly.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

The Droid is no prince in that situation either.

and you'd know this... how?

As battery life varies from person to person, the only way you can make that statement definitively is if you've used an Iphone regularly.

Ahhh, so you've been a Droid user for how long now?

[Space Edge]

I'm a little surprised that this got approved, actually. Apple has been ruthless about denying any app that "duplicates functionality" -- that is, does something that one of the basic phone apps does. It's the reason they gave for denying the Google Voice app, after all.

I think what happened was that Opera went on the offensive and made a big deal about this app beforehand, and kind of pressured Apple into approving it. Then again, how can Opera pressure Apple into doing something but Google can't?

Yeah it's weird but there are a bunch of browsers available in the app store. My problem is they don't integrate well with the OS since if you click a link in mail or in a app it will open in Safari not the browser you got from the app store.

[sailor]

Opera also doesn't seem to recall where you last were, like the safari app does. I like how the display looks, at least on the board here.

[Freitag]

Ahhh, so you've been a Droid user for how long now?

Ah, I didn't make a definitive statement though.

[KnoxHarrington]

Are you seriously comparing a software patch (which is what jailbreaking essentially is) with overclocking? Really?

Also, watch your mouth in discussing battery life. The Droid is no prince in that situation either.

There is a risk of bricking an iPhone with jailbreaking or (especially) unlocking, but it's remote. I gave it a while, tried the Backgrounder multitasking app, and my iPhone 3G ran like dogshit if I multitasked more than a couple of things. So I'm just saying that Apple's decision to limit multitasking in 4.0 to the 3GS and later, and their assertion that it's not been well done before, is not just them trying to move you to a 3GS or whatever's coming 4th generation. It's true.

The thing about overclocking that strikes me too is that as hot as iPhones -- and, for that matter, just about any smartphone I've ever tried -- get on heavy use, I can't imagine how hot an overclocked one would get.

[biggestmexi]

There is a risk of bricking an iPhone with jailbreaking or (especially) unlocking, but it's remote. I gave it a while, tried the Backgrounder multitasking app, and my iPhone 3G ran like dogshit if I multitasked more than a couple of things. So I'm just saying that Apple's decision to limit multitasking in 4.0 to the 3GS and later, and their assertion that it's not been well done before, is not just them trying to move you to a 3GS or whatever's coming 4th generation. It's true.

The thing about overclocking that strikes me too is that as hot as iPhones -- and, for that matter, just about any smartphone I've ever tried -- get on heavy use, I can't imagine how hot an overclocked one would get.

ive seen mine peek at 108F on heavy use.

[Tenbatsuzen]

There is a risk of bricking an iPhone with jailbreaking or (especially) unlocking, but it's remote. I gave it a while, tried the Backgrounder multitasking app, and my iPhone 3G ran like dogshit if I multitasked more than a couple of things. So I'm just saying that Apple's decision to limit multitasking in 4.0 to the 3GS and later, and their assertion that it's not been well done before, is not just them trying to move you to a 3GS or whatever's coming 4th generation. It's true.

The thing about overclocking that strikes me too is that as hot as iPhones -- and, for that matter, just about any smartphone I've ever tried -- get on heavy use, I can't imagine how hot an overclocked one would get.

My phone has been getting really hot using it as a wifi router. I'm wondering what the Incredible would be like.

[Tenbatsuzen]

engadget is saying Iphone 4 is in the wild.

It doesn't look very Iphone-ish.

[Space Edge]

engadget is saying Iphone 4 is in the wild.

It doesn't look very Iphone-ish.

Yeah I saw that earlier also I'm still weary, the same thing happened last year pre 3G S launch. All these sites had pictures and specs of what the phone was going to look like and they were wrong.

[Space Edge]

Don’t worry, that wasn’t the new iPhone…

Engadget posted photos of the what was said to possibly be an early prototype / actual version of the next generation iPhone last night, and while we assumed their story was legit, we figured the unit was just totally janky and most likely a software testing mule. MacRumors now confirms that the device in question is just a Japanese knock off.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/18/dont-worry-that-wasnt-the-new-iphone/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28Boy+Gen ius+Report%29

[Tenbatsuzen]

Don’t worry, that wasn’t the new iPhone…

Engadget posted photos of the what was said to possibly be an early prototype / actual version of the next generation iPhone last night, and while we assumed their story was legit, we figured the unit was just totally janky and most likely a software testing mule. MacRumors now confirms that the device in question is just a Japanese knock off.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/18/dont-worry-that-wasnt-the-new-iphone/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28Boy+Gen ius+Report%29

The story sounded kind of bad as well... we're still at least 2 months from the Iphones being announced, I doubt they would dogfood them this early.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The guy who runs engadget just tweeted that a major update to this story is coming soon, which is why he hasn't pulled the original story for being fake.

The last 100+ comments of the Engadget story is hysterical, every other one is links to the Macrumors or BoyGenius report story.

Engadget, although it's a tech dirt sheet, is one of the better ones.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Awww shit. Engadget says that...

1) The 4g iphone that broke yesterday is actually visible in the leaked Ipad pics from February. (in the corner off to the side, which is why no one paid attention to it)

2) The leaked Ipad pics were from Cupertino.

3) The stuff on Macrumors may be photoshopped and a disinformation campaign from Supertino.

[Space Edge]

I just saw the post over there, Interesting if they let a picture slip out. I guess we will find out in June. I wouldn't be surprised if a dozen more articles come out saying 10 different things.

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's not only that, it's actually something physical that's out there. Not just pictures. Some guy from San Jose has a Iphone 4. Now the question is, what happens to that phone? The guy said the phone booted up but now it can't. Does Apple have the ability to kill the phone remotely?

[Tenbatsuzen]

The debunkers who claimed Japanese clone have now admitted it's a fake.

So this could be legit.

[biggestmexi]

1) The 4g iphone that broke yesterday is actually visible in the leaked Ipad pics from February. (in the corner off to the side, which is why no one paid attention to it)


So the Iphone will be on sprint? The nations only 4G carrier?

Also. Im being serious on this one. But why would anyone get excited for pics? It is going to look exactly the same like all the models before it. AMIRITE?

[Space Edge]

So the Iphone will be on sprint? The nations only 4G carrier?

Also. Im being serious on this one. But why would anyone get excited for pics? It is going to look exactly the same like all the models before it. AMIRITE?

I think people are calling it the iPhone 4 as in Fourth Generation, It doesn't have a name yet and nobody will know the name of it until they announce it. That also goes for the what it looks like. We all know you pretend to know everything about Apple and Tech stuff but if you haven't noticed the original iphone looks nothing like the iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS looks nothing like the iPhone 3G or original iPhone. Now go back to obsessing over a company and product you hate.

[Space Edge]

This Is Apple's Next iPhone
(http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone)To much to copy and paste give it a read/watch

[Freitag]

So the Iphone will be on sprint? The nations only 4G carrier?

Also. Im being serious on this one. But why would anyone get excited for pics? It is going to look exactly the same like all the models before it. AMIRITE?

No, 4G in apple speak is fourth generation, which is why when this phone comes out, I'm sure they're just going to call it Iphone 4 so as not to confuse people.

And no, you're not right. This Iphone has a different button layout, 2 cameras, its a little bigger, and the way it's constructed is completely different.

[Freitag]

This Is Apple's Next iPhone
(http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone)To much to copy and paste give it a read/watch

Steve Jobs must seriously be the most pissed off man in America right now. He kept the Ipad completely under wraps, and now the entire hardware layout for his crown jewel in his collection is out 2 months early.

To quote Gregg "Opie" Hughes, whoever was dogfooding the prototype is not just fired... they are SO fired.

[Space Edge]

Steve Jobs must seriously be the most pissed off man in America right now. He kept the Ipad completely under wraps, and now the entire hardware layout for his crown jewel in his collection is out 2 months early.

To quote Gregg "Opie" Hughes, whoever was dogfooding the prototype is not just fired... they are SO fired.

Yeah more sites and tech guys are starting to pick this up and saying it's legit, I'm biting.

Now conspiracy theory time, maybe it was leaked out on purpose? Not sure why they would do that since they do a really good job of keeping things silent until they do the keynotes. Just throwing that theory out there.

Edited to add
and another thing just throwing it out there why haven't we seen this device powered on ? If I found one of these siting around first thing I would do is turn it on.

[Freitag]

Edited to add
and another thing just throwing it out there why haven't we seen this device powered on ? If I found one of these siting around first thing I would do is turn it on.

Apparently it was powered up, and Apple pinged it and then bricked it remotely.

(before you go OMG Apple is big brother this is standard operating procedure for prototype tech for this very exact scenario)

[Freitag]

Now conspiracy theory time, maybe it was leaked out on purpose? Not sure why they would do that since they do a really good job of keeping things silent until they do the keynotes. Just throwing that theory out there.



Doubt it was an intentional leak. Too far off from the keynote in June Jobs would deliver to hype up the phone, and word of mouth and rumors and speculation is what gets tech heads into a froth.

There was no reason for a leak to happen, unless the phone was radically changed. It's different, but not so different that people would jump to AT&T to get it.

This is, without a doubt, the biggest security breach Apple's ever had. Not only did the phone get out, they had two of the biggest tech blogs deconstruct it.

Jobs seriously must be losing his mind.

[Space Edge]

Tons of articles are coming out about this. I was browsing Digg and saw one saying Gizmodo has identified the person who lost the phone. A few more articles saying the leak was a PR move. Another article saying Gizmodo paid 10k for the device. Either way I'm excited for this since I'm definitely going to upgrade since I go the the 3G in August of 2008, Glad I didn't upgrade to the 3GS last year. This looks like it is worth the wait.

[Space Edge]

http://www.cultofmac.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/craigslist_lost-iphone.jpg

[Space Edge]

So this iPhone was lost over a month ago


How Apple Lost the Next iPhone
http://gizmodo.com/5520438/
The Gourmet Haus Staudt. A nice place to enjoy good German ales. And if you are an Apple Software Engineer named Gray Powell and you get one too many beers, it's also a nice place to lose the next-generation iPhone.

The 27-year-old Powell—a North Carolina State University 2006 graduate and talented amateur photographer—is an Apple Software Engineer working on the iPhone Baseband Software, the little program that enables the iPhone to make calls.

On the night of March 18, he was enjoying the fine imported ales at Gourmet Haus Staudt, a nice German beer garden in Redwood City, California. He was happy. The place was great. The beer was excellent. "I underestimated how good German beer is," he typed into the next-generation iPhone he was testing on the field, cleverly disguised as an iPhone 3GS. It was his last Facebook update from the secret iPhone. It was the last time he ever saw the iPhone, right before he abandoned it on bar stool, leaving to go home.

Knowing how ferocious and ruthless Apple is about product leaks, those beers may have turned out to be the bitterest of his life.

(Almost) Impenetrable Security
Until now, Apple's legendary security has always worked perfectly. Perhaps there was a blurry factory photo here, or some last-minute information strategically whispered to some friendly media there. But when it comes to the big stuff, everything is airtight. At their Cupertino campus, any gadget or computer that is worth protecting is behind armored doors, with security locks with codes that change every few minutes. Prototypes are bolted to desks. Hidden in these labs, hardware, software and industrial-design elves toil separately on the same devices, without really having the complete picture of the final product.

And hidden in every corner, the Apple secret police, a team of people with a single mission: To make sure nobody speaks. And if there's a leak, hunt down the traitor, and escort him out of the building. Using lockdowns and other fear tactics, these men in black are the last line of defense against any sneaky eyes. The Gran Jefe Steve trusts them to avoid Apple's worst nightmare: The leak of a strategic product that could cost them millions of dollars in free marketing promotion. One that would make them lose control of the product news cycle.

But the fact is that there's no perfect security. Not when humans are involved. Humans that can lose things. You know, like the next generation iPhone.

Lost and Found
Apple security's mighty walls fell on the midnight of Thursday, March 18. At that time, Powell was at Gourmet Haus Staudt, just 20 miles from the company's Infinite Loop headquarters, having his fun. Around him, other groups of people were sharing the jolly atmosphere, and plenty of the golden liquid.

The person who eventually ended up with the lost iPhone was sitting next to Powell. He was drinking with a friend too. He noticed Powell on the stool next to him but didn't think twice about him at the time. Not until Powell had already left the bar, and a random really drunk guy—who'd been sitting on the other side of Powell—returned from the bathroom to his own stool.

The Random Really Drunk Guy pointed at the iPhone sitting on the stool, the precious prototype left by the young Apple engineer.

"Hey man, is that your iPhone?" asked Random Really Drunk Guy.

"Hmmm, what?" replied the person who ended up with the iPhone. "No, no, it isn't mine."

"Ooooh, I guess it's your friend's then," referring to a friend who at the time was in the bathroom. "Here, take it," said the Random Really Drunk Guy, handing it to him. "You don't want to lose it." After that, the Random Really Drunk Guy also left the bar.

The person who ended up with the iPhone asked around, but nobody claimed it. He thought about that young guy sitting next to him, so he and his friend stayed there for some time, waiting. Powell never came back.

During that time, he played with it. It seemed like a normal iPhone. "I thought it was just an iPhone 3GS," he told me in a telephone interview. "It just looked like one. I tried the camera, but it crashed three times." The iPhone didn't seem to have any special features, just two bar codes stuck on its back: 8800601pex1 and N90_DVT_GE4X_0493. Next to the volume keys there was another sticker: iPhone SWE-L200221. Apart from that, just six pages of applications. One of them was Facebook. And there, on the Facebook screen, was the Apple engineer, Gray Powell.



Thinking about returning the phone the next day, he left. When he woke up after the hazy night, the phone was dead. Bricked remotely, through MobileMe, the service Apple provides to track and wipe out lost iPhones. It was only then that he realized that there was something strange that iPhone. The exterior didn't feel right and there was a camera on the front. After tinkering with it, he managed to open the fake 3GS.

There it was, a shiny thing, completely different from everything that came before.

He reached for a phone and called a lot of Apple numbers and tried to find someone who was at least willing to transfer his call to the right person, but no luck. No one took him seriously and all he got for his troubles was a ticket number.

He thought that eventually the ticket would move up high enough and that he would receive a call back, but his phone never rang. What should he be expected to do then? Walk into an Apple store and give the shiny, new device to a 20-year-old who might just end up selling it on eBay?

The Aftermath
Weeks later, Gizmodo got it. It was the real thing. Once we saw it inside and out, there was no doubt about it. We learnt about this story, but we didn't know for sure it was Powell's phone until today, when we contacted him via his phone.

Gray Powell: Hello?
John Herrman: Is this Gray?
G: Yeah.
J: Hi, this is John Herrman from Gizmodo.com.
G: Hey!
J: You work at Apple, right?
G: Um, I mean I can't really talk too much right now.
J: I understand. We have a device, and we think that maybe you misplaced it at a bar, and we would like to give it back.
G: Yeah, I forwarded your email [asking him if it was his iPhone], someone should be contacting you.
J: OK.
G: Can I send this phone number along?
J: [Contact information]
He sounded tired and broken. But at least, he's alive. And apparently, he may still be working at Apple. As it should be, because it's just a fucking iPhone. It can happen to everyone, Gray Powell, Phil Schiller, you, me, and even Steve Jobs

Unlike Apple's legendary impenetrable security, breached by the power of German beer and one single human mistake.

Additional reporting by John Herrman; extra thanks to Kyle VanHemert, Matt Buchanan, and Arianna Reiche

[sailor]

I just saw the post over there, Interesting if they let a picture slip out. I guess we will find out in June. I wouldn't be surprised if a dozen more articles come out saying 10 different things.

fuck those two plagiarists.

[Space Edge]

Another interesting read not going to copy and paste here just click the link

Why Apple Couldn't Get the Lost iPhone Back
http://gizmodo.com/5520729/

[Space Edge]

Another article explaining why Apple didn't leak the phone.
http://gizmodo.com/5520746/

[ryno1974]

I'm too lazy to read this whole thread, but I need your advice. I have 2 options right now:

1) Get a company issued blackberry, along with the corporate limiting of applications used like twitter and facebook, but fully paid for with no fuss.

2) Get an iphone 3GS of my own, and expense it back to the company. My choice of apps, etc, but I may get some push back on the monthly costs, resulting in a percentage out of pocket (maybe),

What should I do? Get the BB or the iphone?

[angrymissy]

Ask your company how much they will reimburse if you expense it. Pretty much everyone at my company chooses to get their own phone and expense it rather than deal with the corp issued phones that have every thing blocked and tracked. I administer the cell phone plan for my division and the phones suck.

[ryno1974]

Ask your company how much they will reimburse if you expense it. Pretty much everyone at my company chooses to get their own phone and expense it rather than deal with the corp issued phones that have every thing blocked and tracked. I administer the cell phone plan for my division and the phones suck.

A couple of guys that work for me have Iphones and BB's (personal, not expensed) and they are with the same provider as our corporate provider (Rogers) - they pay between 80 and 100 a month all in. My current shit bag motorola phone comes in at around 75 a month on the corporate plan. I think it will be a wash and not cost me anything, orst case like 15 a month more than the 0 that I pay now.

I worry I will bust the screen on the iphone though - how tough are they compred to BB's?

[CaptainBlowhole]

Is Apple going too overboard with how it is handling this leak?

LINK (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003446-37.html)

By reacting this way, do they kind of shoot themselves in the foot by harming review and announcement sites? Or, do they not rely upon those sites for feedback on how to improve their products and as secondary advertisements?
I know Apple likes to play with their cards held tightly to their chests and all, and they have every right to keep their unreleased products secret so that competitors do not steal their ideas and make their own plans etc. as far as timing releases go. This just seems a little excessive, especially after seeing how this Gizmodo guy came home to find his house being raided by cops.

[sailor]

I don't think apple went overboard, but the police clearly overstepped their bounds.

Can't wait to see this on an episode of law & order in a few months.

[CaptainBlowhole]

The screens on the iPhone is much tougher than the Blackberry. I believe the iPhone is tempered glass while the Blackberry is plastic. I have the Blackberry Bold 9700 and I also have a iPod Touch.

As far as the cops raiding the Gizmodo guys house, I think you are right: they went way over the bounds, unless we don't know the whole story. How do cops just enter a home, even with a search warrant, without first coming to you and explaining it to you?

[sailor]

I think that's pretty much how warrants work. Thinking on it more, the real fault would fall on the judge who issued the warrant.

[KnoxHarrington]

I think that's pretty much how warrants work. Thinking on it more, the real fault would fall on the judge who issued the warrant.

The legal question here is if a warrant was necessary here. In a case like this, it's often more common to just subpoena the equipment, requiring someone to hand it over on their own. It's very questionable whether or not this deserved the whole battering ram on the front door gimmick.

I can see how Apple might want to pursue legal action here on this, but I don't think even Cupertino is paranoid and crazy enough to want to send the Tech SWAT Team against a blogger.

[Space Edge]

Anyone with a Jailbroken iPhone who can SSH feel like helping me out?

[Furtherman]

AT&T Just Killed Unlimited Wireless Data (and Screwed Everybody in the Process) (http://gizmodo.com/5553418/att-just-killed-unlimited-wireless-data-and-screwed-everybody-in-the-process)

AT&T.... paying more, for less!

Unlimited, all-you-can-eat wireless data was a beautiful thing for Apple devices on AT&T, delivering streams of Pandora, YouTube videos, a million tweets, and hundreds of webpages without worry. And now it's dead.

AT&T's new, completely restructured mobile data plans for both iPhones and iPads have officially launched the era of pay-per-byte data, which we've known was coming. We just hoped it would take a little longer. It's the anti-Christmas.

If you look at the costs per megabyte, you can see how, despite the fact AT&T is pitching the availability of lower priced plans as a value move, you actually are paying more for less.

[Space Edge]

AT&T Just Killed Unlimited Wireless Data (and Screwed Everybody in the Process) (http://gizmodo.com/5553418/att-just-killed-unlimited-wireless-data-and-screwed-everybody-in-the-process)

AT&T.... paying more, for less!

If you had unlimited data you can get grandfathered in, woot

[sailor]

The article I read (zdnet) said the new plans will save the vast majority of users some money. I'll have to see how much data I use monthly.

[Space Edge]

The article I read (zdnet) said the new plans will save the vast majority of users some money. I'll have to see how much data I use monthly.

There is a way you can track your data usage in the settings menu but you have to do it manually. Lets say you could have reset the counter on the 1st of the month and kept track until the next month. But I don't think I have ever reset mine. I'll probably end up keeping the unlimited data plan. I really have to look into it though most of the time I'm on WiFi.

[Space Edge]

Just read another article saying you can check your data stats on AT&T's website.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I still have the same iPhone 3G that I got in 2008, I have never upgraded before. If I move my number to a 4G (I just read that I will be able to keep and move my $30 unlimted plan to a new iPhone) what will happen to my old 3G? Will I still be able to use it as an iPod? My 3G is still in excellent shape, I hate for it to not be useful on some level.

[Space Edge]

I still have the same iPhone 3G that I got in 2008, I have never upgraded before. If I move my number to a 4G (I just read that I will be able to keep and move my $30 unlimted plan to a new iPhone) what will happen to my old 3G? Will I still be able to use it as an iPod? My 3G is still in excellent shape, I hate for it to not be useful on some level.

Yeah you will be able to keep it, I'm in the same boat as you. Contract is up this month and I have a 3G. My plan is to upgrade then take the old 3G Jailbreak it and Unlock it and sell it on Ebay or Craigslist to make some cash.

[kalethan]

hey guys i have a samsung impression thru AT&T. is here a way to put a linux OS on it without screwing it up?

[KnoxHarrington]

I still have the same iPhone 3G that I got in 2008, I have never upgraded before. If I move my number to a 4G (I just read that I will be able to keep and move my $30 unlimted plan to a new iPhone) what will happen to my old 3G? Will I still be able to use it as an iPod? My 3G is still in excellent shape, I hate for it to not be useful on some level.

I think you have to keep a SIM card in an iPhone for it to work, but it doesn't have to be an activated one. It'll just work as an iPod Touch, more or less, after that.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I think you have to keep a SIM card in an iPhone for it to work, but it doesn't have to be an activated one. It'll just work as an iPod Touch, more or less, after that.

That is cool, I wouldn't expect any of the phone features to work if I do not maintain service on it. I usually use it as an iPod anyway, plus I have W-Fi at work and home.

[Space Edge]

I think you have to keep a SIM card in an iPhone for it to work, but it doesn't have to be an activated one. It'll just work as an iPod Touch, more or less, after that.

That is cool, I wouldn't expect any of the phone features to work if I do not maintain service on it. I usually use it as an iPod anyway, plus I have W-Fi at work and home.

That's exactly what I do with my original 1st Gen iPhone I keep it around as a spare "iTouch"

I can't wait till monday till the WWDC, I went on AT&T's website and noticed that my phone is eligible for an upgrade a few months earlier then it should be. So I'm guessing new iPhone is in the very near future.

[KnoxHarrington]

There are advantages and disadvantages to using a deactivated iPhone as a quasi iPod touch. The iPod Touch actually has a faster processor and more RAM than the iPhone, so it usually does better with games and other applications. Also, there's a 64GB model of the iPod Touch, where the iPhone only goes up to 32GB.

However, the iPhone has a camera, which the iPod Touch doesn't (at least not yet), and it has a GPS chip (at least the 3G and 3GS) for location services. Without a cell signal, location services aren't quite as accurate, but they still work.

I am curious to see if there are any big upgrades to the iPod Touch coming up. It's almost become the neglected little kid brother, really usurped by the iPad. But it's still a pretty good device.

[Space Edge]

And tomorrow is the day, excited to see what's announced.

So far I have read new iphone hardware, Safari 5 with extensions. I read a few places that are speculating hardware release on the 18th and OS 4.0 release as early as tomorrow. Personally I don't see them rolling out 4.0 tomorrow.

[KnoxHarrington]

One I've heard is MobileMe might become a free service, at least for some of the services (like synching)..

[Space Edge]

One I've heard is MobileMe might become a free service, at least for some of the services (like synching)..

Yeah that rumor has been out there for a few weeks. That would be cool I pay for mobileme I'm guessing they might still have premium mobileme service and just allow synching for free.

[Space Edge]

What's your current data plan? If you have unlimited do you plan on keeping it since they are letting people keep unlimited data if they have it already.

[KnoxHarrington]

I'm also hearing a new version of Apple TV could be on the way, using the iPhone 4.0 OS (so that you can use apps on it) and being more cloud-based than it has been so far. It would also be significantly cheaper, probably about $99.

I'm hearing there won't be much for Macs; maybe refreshes to the Mac Mini (like an HDMI port) and the Mac Pro (using the new 6-core processors from Intel.) Mac OS X 10.6.4 will probably be announced, and 10.7 may be previewed. But this is going to be more about developing for iPhone 4.0, so devices using that will be the emphasis by far.

[Freitag]

So apparently, AT&T is making a ton of users eligible for Early upgrades.

The AT&T thing is automatic, but Verizon is doing the same thing, if you ask.

Here's my guess:

Steve's announcing Verizon Iphone today, but it's not available til Q3. AT&T makes everyone eligible early to lock you in to a contract.

[Space Edge]

Anyone else following along ?

[Space Edge]

Damn so that found prototype was real

[Freitag]

Damn so that found prototype was real

...no, cops raid houses in the suburbs for the hell of it.

That said, outside of the redesign and NetFlix, I don't see anything "game changing". No Verizon. bah.

[Space Edge]

Yup a overhaul of the OS and Hardware is nothing at all :rolleyes:. I thought Verizon was a lock? I thought All those analysts that said no Verizon iphone were dolts and didn't know what they were talking about.

[KingModem]

AT&T execs that executed the iPhone deal saved that network from peril. AT&T would be foolish to let the exclusivity agreement go to the rival CDMA networks.

[celery]

The iPhone 4 is pretty sleek looking. Engadget says it's the best looking display they've ever seen on a mobile phone.

Money's kinda tight right now, but I'll be getting a huge upgrade when my first-gen iPhone breaks.

But, what's up with no video chat over 3G?

[danner1515]

It looks neat and all, but I'm honestly in no big hurry to upgrade from my old iPhone. My friends have gotten so obnoxious about constantly having their iPhones in their faces at all times that it's actually encouraged me to use mine less.

[Space Edge]

Not iPhone news but something they left out of the Keynote and is available now for download is Safari 5 http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/apple-release-safari-5/

I just switched from Safari to Chrome but will check out the new Safari

[fezident]

Of course... I jusssst bought a iPhone 3G-s about 6 weeks ago.

Mint.

[hanso]

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[biggestmexi]

Of course... I jusssst bought a iPhone 3G-s about 6 weeks ago.

Mint.

lol

your missing a front cam and....a 5mp with flash and 720p recording..that is all

lol


BIGGESTMEXI APPL HATER AWAY!!!!

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

I think Mexi makes some valid points, any rebuttals? :innocent:

[celery]

lol

your missing a front cam and....a 5mp with flash and 720p recording..that is all

lol


BIGGESTMEXI APPL HATER AWAY!!!!


Double the resolution on the screen (to me, that's the biggest upgrade)
802.11n

[biggestmexi]

Double the resolution on the screen (to me, that's the biggest upgrade)
802.11n


That's like comarping a 720p 32" TV to a 1080p 32" TV. It's null and moot.

It is called a Retina display, meaning you need to hold it up to your retina to see the difference.

802.11n, glad you have that at home, but if you don't have fiber internet its rather useless.

oh, and your local starbucks will still only carry wi-fi.

[celery]

That's like comarping a 720p 32" TV to a 1080p 32" TV. It's null and moot.

It is called a Retina display, meaning you need to hold it up to your retina to see the difference.

802.11n, glad you have that at home, but if you don't have fiber internet its rather useless.

oh, and your local starbucks will still only carry wi-fi.

Plenty of people I know have 801.11n on fiber internet.

We could go back and forth on the screen, but everyone who's seen it says it looks clearer and amazing.

It's also 24 percent thinner than the 3GS with the new form factor.

I know you hate Apple, but ignoring half the upgrades and saying "that is all" just makes you look bad.

[Tenbatsuzen]

form factor.



there's that phrase again

[Doctor Manhattan]

Anyone trying to pre-order the iPhone 4? All I get is this:

http://images.apple.com/r/store/backsoon/title_backsoon1.gif

[Doctor Manhattan]

It's like they don't want my money. I have been trying all morning and twice I got this far.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6991/checkoutp.jpg

I usually don't get anywhere close to this step. I also tried to just call and they aren't accepting calls at this time, too busy.

Maybe I should buy some Apple stock.

[Space Edge]

You can trade in your iPhone 3G or 3G S at radio shack for $200 for credit towards the new iPhone.

http://radioshack.cexchange.com/online/home/index.rails
http://www.edibleapple.com/eligible-iphone-3gs-owners-can-trade-up-to-an-iphone-4-for-free-at-radio-shack/

[Doctor Manhattan]

..that is all

I can see people saying that all 4 versions of the iPhone are really similar. This is the biggest change so far but it's still an iPhone and not too far off from the first one.

I wonder if people would complain if they went in a new direction with their phone, like they did with the iMac twice! it went from

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5232/imac01.jpg

to

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5796/imac02.jpg

to

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4357/imac3y.jpg

with minor changes in between.

[Space Edge]

iOS 4 release day today. I thin I'm going to wait until they release the jailbreak for 4.0 which should be soon from what I have been reading.

[Space Edge]

my iPhone 4 is out on the UPS truck and I'm waiting for the delivery. Did anyone else pre-order?

[Suspect Chin]

Downloaded iOS 4.0 and the folders option is pretty damn cool.

[rascal_helper]

Got my new iPhone 4 a day early. Loving it. Thankfully I don't see any screen yellowing like some people are seeing.

[Space Edge]

The iPhone 4 is awesome definitely a big step up from the iPhone3G

[Suspect Chin]

What's the best new feature?

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

What's the best new feature?

The newness.

[Bigwils]

the new iphone is a great phone if your right handed
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/some-iphone-4-models-see-signals-drop-to-0-when-held-left-handed/

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

the new iphone is a great phone if your right handed
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/some-iphone-4-models-see-signals-drop-to-0-when-held-left-handed/

Apple just released a fix. It turns out the problem wasn't the phone.

Here ya go. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/)

[Landblast]

http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn331/AndromedaDrive/admiralakbar.jpg

[Suspect Chin]

I downloaded the iOS 4 software update for my iPhone 3GS and so far it had been noting but trouble. The phone runs much slower, drops more calls, more glitches and freeze ups, and more miscellaneous poor performance. All together a very disappointing update so far. I hope they release patches to fix this crap soon.

[CaptainBlowhole]

<object width="500" height="320" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"><param name="movie" value="http://player.ordienetworks.com/flash/fodplayer.swf" /><param name="flashvars" value="key=dafe6d6167" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed width="500" height="320" flashvars="key=dafe6d6167" allowfullscreen="true" quality="high" src="http://player.ordienetworks.com/flash/fodplayer.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object><div style="text-align:center;width:500px;"><a href="http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/dafe6d6167/iphone-4-the-guys-who-didn-t-make-the-cut" title="from 72nd_Street, Adam Scott, Brittany Snow, and Lauryn Kahn">iPhone 4 Video - The Deleted Scenes</a> from <a href="http://www.funnyordie.com/adam_scott">Adam Scott</a></div>

[Suspect Chin]

No one else has any comments on the iOS 4? My 3GS has acted like complete dogshit since I downloaded it. I can't believe I'm the only one having issues.

[KnoxHarrington]

No one else has any comments on the iOS 4? My 3GS has acted like complete dogshit since I downloaded it. I can't believe I'm the only one having issues.

My 3G's performance has actually improved since I went to 4.0. I'd recommend that you think about restoring the software, because the upgrade process probably got fucked up.

I really do like the folders thing too. It's cool to be down from 9 screens of apps to 2. Though setting it up was kind of a pain in the ass until I figured out how to do it; I'd drag an app over to the folder I'd created, and it slid away.

[Suspect Chin]

My 3G's performance has actually improved since I went to 4.0. I'd recommend that you think about restoring the software, because the upgrade process probably got fucked up.

I'll give it a try.

[Suspect Chin]

I'll give it a try.

That took a while, but it really made a world of difference. Thanks buddy.

[Jayw]

iphone going to verizon...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/rim-falls-to-lowest-level-in-year-as-iphone-heads-to-verizon.html

Think that makes my choice of switching to verizon(been with t-mobile since they were voicestream) even easier. I stream the xm app all day long for ron/fez with my blackberry so I am a little stand offish for going with a carrier\without a cheap data plan. Is 200MB/month a enough if your streaming radio and just surfing inet.

[KnoxHarrington]

That took a while, but it really made a world of difference. Thanks buddy.

Yeah, it definitely did sound like an installation gone bad to me.

Glad it worked.

[biggestmexi]

iphone going to verizon...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/rim-falls-to-lowest-level-in-year-as-iphone-heads-to-verizon.html

Think that makes my choice of switching to verizon(been with t-mobile since they were voicestream) even easier. I stream the xm app all day long for ron/fez with my blackberry so I am a little stand offish for going with a carrier\without a cheap data plan. Is 200MB/month a enough if your streaming radio and just surfing inet.

last month i hit 2.2gb on vzw.