Barack Obama is our 44th President of the United States [Archive] - Page 3

angrymissy

11-07-2008, 06:23 AM

How am I full of shit? Just because I am not following the liberal line and drinking the liberal kool aid? America is scared right now, small pockets of left wing elitism like this website do not represent all of the usa.

Because you're following the tinfoil hat line. I have plenty of diehard Conservative friends and family. I'm talking Obamaisasecretmuslimantichristemailforwarder people. They're over it. If you and all your "friends" are really this paranoid, you need to seek mental health treatment.

Furtherman

11-07-2008, 06:29 AM

How am I full of shit?

You reek of it.

mikeyboy

11-07-2008, 06:33 AM

Go back to stalking Sheepy, Jezo. This bit sucks even worse.

NewYorkDragons80

11-07-2008, 06:35 AM

x2.

I hope President Obama can reach across the aisle and put an end to quoting an entire post and just writing "x2" or "QFT".

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 06:38 AM

How am I full of shit? Just because I am not following the liberal line and drinking the liberal kool aid? America is scared right now, small pockets of left wing elitism like this website do not represent all of the usa.

America is not scared right now. You are scared right now. America just elected Obama President by a relatively significant margin, why would they be scared?

And you are not, not "following the liberal line". You are repeating far far fringe conspiracy theories. As Missy said, if you really believe Obama is organizing death squads, then you need to seek mental help.

EliSnow

11-07-2008, 06:38 AM

I hope President Obama can reach across the aisle and put an end to quoting an entire post and just writing "x2" or "QFT".

SSYA

So Says You Alone

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 06:42 AM

Hell yeah.

I am applying for a handgun permit next month. I need to get one to get it grandfathered in before the new administration bans them. I already have a shotgun but I need something portable and light.

I filled out my hand gun/gun purchaser application last Sunday. Hopefully ill pass the background check. They actually ask you if you are dependent on drugs. Lol

epo

11-07-2008, 06:47 AM

I filled out my hand gun/gun purchaser application last Sunday. Hopefully ill pass the background check. They actually ask you if you are dependent on drugs. Lol

Well hippie, are ya?

Freitag

11-07-2008, 06:47 AM

Jezo is being ignored, but the fact that I voted for Obama and he's calling this website a "pocket of left-wing elitism" is hysterical.

Jezo, do you see riots breaking out, like in Watts? Yes, there's been some isolated incidents with morons who think they have free rein now, but those are few and far between and just get play because of how stupid they are.

Freitag

11-07-2008, 06:49 AM

SSYA

So Says You Alone

yeah, I think it's time to put that one to bed, Eli... didn't quite catch on.

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 06:50 AM

Funny the gun stuff comes up. Does anyone else feel like the democrats have abandoned the anti-gun ideology? As a liberal, it seems like a MUCH bigger deal to conservatives than to democrats.

I personally am only against automatic weapons. I believe properly training people in firearms use is as effective as banning firearms. I think a lot of liberals think like me on this issue, and it's used more as a rallying cry for the right than anything else.

Whiskeyportal

11-07-2008, 06:50 AM

I filled out my hand gun/gun purchaser application last Sunday. Hopefully ill pass the background check. They actually ask you if you are dependent on drugs. Lol

even if you don't pass, can't you still legally purchase a gun in a private sale? i've heard that and always wondered if it was true. i'm far too lazy to google that

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 06:51 AM

America is not scared right now. You are scared right now. America just elected Obama President by a relatively significant margin, why would they be scared?

And you are not, not "following the liberal line". You are repeating far far fringe conspiracy theories. As Missy said, if you really believe Obama is organizing death squads, then you need to seek mental help.

Without assing myself out like a couple of days ago
Let me just say this. The political leanings here are only representative of %53 of voters. The other %47 are alarmed to say the least. In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets. Not everyone is an alarmist but people are scared, large swaths of otherwise reasonable people were talking about here. Its not his color that scares people its social progressisim that scares people. With no balence in our government and an old Clinton crony running shit inside the whitehouse and judges who legislate from the bench, its not hard to see why the other half is panicing.

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 06:52 AM

That is terrible as well, but what is also terrible that it is being called a hate crime while the example I posted is simply a celebration.

I think the problem is that most of the people on this board do not see the right wing fear that I witness almost every day because of this election, people are terrified more so than I have ever seen before. You folks are insulated from the terror that is spreading throughout the country.

A guy I know is LA has been telling me about rumors of Obama death squads and tolerance police. A friend's inlaws are telling their daughter to enjoy her dinners now because come January she will no longer be able to eat. People I know in the hunting community are convinced Obama is going to come and take away all of their guns and a letter I just got in the mail from the NRA tells me the same thing. A good friend of mine who works in the public school system says he has heard people walking in the hallways talking about how they don't think there will ever be another election because Obama will never leave office.

It's scary out there for us. We have a target on our heads that wont go away for a very long time.

this has got to be the most absolutely stupid, ignorant and ill-informed thing i have read. you have got to be kidding. this has to be a bit. no one is that stupid.

epo

11-07-2008, 06:53 AM

Without assing myself out like a couple of days ago
Let me just say this. The political leanings here are only representative of %53 of voters. The other %47 are alarmed to say the least. In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets. Not everyone is an alarmist but people are scared, large swaths of otherwise reasonable people were talking about here. Its not his color that scares people its social progressisim that scares people. With no balence in our government and an old Clinton crony running shit inside the whitehouse and judges who legislate from the bench, its not hard to see why the other half is panicing.

Yes....because everyone remembers all of that social unrest in the 1990's! Holy shit....it's over!

:huh:

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 06:54 AM

Without assing myself out like a couple of days ago
Let me just say this. The political leanings here are only representative of %53 of voters. The other %47 are alarmed to say the least. In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets. Not everyone is an alarmist but people are scared, large swaths of otherwise reasonable people were talking about here. Its not his color that scares people its social progressisim that scares people. With no balence in our government and an old Clinton crony running shit inside the whitehouse and judges who legislate from the bench, its not hard to see why the other half is panicing.

This country has been decidedly democratic before and did guns suddenly become illegal or food run out? I don't doubt what goes on in your part of the world (how would I know?), but don't you think it's a bit much?

Freitag

11-07-2008, 06:54 AM

Was the far Left this obnoxious when Bush got re-elected?

EliSnow

11-07-2008, 06:55 AM

yeah, I think it's time to put that one to bed, Eli... didn't quite catch on.

I think SSWA did. I see it once or twice a week from others.

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 06:58 AM

yeah, I think it's time to put that one to bed, Eli... didn't quite catch on.

crazy talk. i love SSWA!

EliSnow

11-07-2008, 06:59 AM

The other %47 are alarmed to say the least. In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets.

I challenge that analysis completely. Yes, 47% voted against Obama, but many voted against him because they disagreed with his politics, not because they actually believe that America will go to hell in a handbasket because he's president. I have not doubt people are scared or alarmed, but it's not 47% of the population.

As others have pointed, America has had liberal presidents before and this type of shit didn't happen. Conservatives are able to look at this development and analyze it rationally without thinking that it's the end of America as we know it.

Just as most democrats didn't believe that Bush would round up all non-Christians and destroy the line between church and state.

Recyclerz

11-07-2008, 07:01 AM

Exactly. Who doesn't love watermelon or fried chicken? They're fucking delicious.

As long as you don't include that seedless, tasteless faux disaster that they call watermelon in most of stores by me, I'm with ya.

I'm going to send Obama an e-mail suggesting he drop all agricultural subsidies EXCEPT the one for whoever can bring back tasty watermelon.

angrymissy

11-07-2008, 07:02 AM

Without assing myself out like a couple of days ago
Let me just say this. The political leanings here are only representative of %53 of voters. The other %47 are alarmed to say the least. In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets. Not everyone is an alarmist but people are scared, large swaths of otherwise reasonable people were talking about here. Its not his color that scares people its social progressisim that scares people. With no balence in our government and an old Clinton crony running shit inside the whitehouse and judges who legislate from the bench, its not hard to see why the other half is panicing.

It was even closer the last two elections, did you think the 49% who voted for Gore or Kerry went wacky scared?

Furtherman

11-07-2008, 07:02 AM

In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets.

No, they're not.

Was the far Left this obnoxious when Bush got re-elected?

Yes, but apparently some have gotten dumber.

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 07:04 AM

This country has been decidedly democratic before and did guns suddenly become illegal or food run out? I don't doubt what goes on in your part of the world (how would I know?), but don't you think it's a bit much?

I'm not saying guns will be illegal or any of that crazyness. I was agreeing that large parts of the country are freaking the fuck out. I live in Jersey, not Kentucky. I goto a pentacostal church.

LordJezo

11-07-2008, 07:06 AM

Jezo, do you see riots breaking out, like in Watts? Yes, there's been some isolated incidents with morons who think they have free rein now, but those are few and far between and just get play because of how stupid they are.

Riots wont be allowed to break out. Now that there is going to be an active branch of the military stations inside the country to clamp down on civilian threats riots will be brought down with great brutality.

I'm not saying guns will be illegal or any of that crazyness. I was agreeing that large parts of the country are freaking the fuck out. I live in Jersey, not Kentucky. I goto a pentacostal church.

Now while my examples are a bit more insane it's refreshing to hear someone else talk about almost the same stories from his area. Both of us seem to be from NJ as well, just more proof that folks here are sitting with their heads in the sand ignoring the fear that is all around them.

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 07:06 AM

I'm not saying guns will be illegal or any of that crazyness. I was agreeing that large parts of the country are freaking the fuck out. I live in Jersey, not Kentucky. I goto a pentacostal church.

You live in Jersey in a community where people are stocking up on food and guns? Wow, where in Jersey are you? I seriously thought you were from the reddest part of a red state.

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 07:07 AM

mikeyboy

11-07-2008, 07:07 AM

This has to be a bit.

it is

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 07:08 AM

No, they're not.

Yes, but apparently some have gotten dumber.

I don't want to get into anything with you again, but there's no need for insults. I'm glad you're so much smarter than me

Recyclerz

11-07-2008, 07:10 AM

That is terrible as well, but what is also terrible that it is being called a hate crime while the example I posted is simply a celebration.

I think the problem is that most of the people on this board do not see the right wing fear that I witness almost every day because of this election, people are terrified more so than I have ever seen before. You folks are insulated from the terror that is spreading throughout the country.

A guy I know is LA has been telling me about rumors of Obama death squads and tolerance police. A friend's inlaws are telling their daughter to enjoy her dinners now because come January she will no longer be able to eat. People I know in the hunting community are convinced Obama is going to come and take away all of their guns and a letter I just got in the mail from the NRA tells me the same thing. A good friend of mine who works in the public school system says he has heard people walking in the hallways talking about how they don't think there will ever be another election because Obama will never leave office.

It's scary out there for us. We have a target on our heads that wont go away for a very long time.

As the Republicans used to say "Elections have consequences. Deal with it." :wink:

Don't worry Jezo, I've made a call and got you bumped up to the top of The List. It will all be over soon. :bye:

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 07:11 AM

You live in Jersey in a community where people are stocking up on food and guns? Wow, where in Jersey are you? I seriously thought you were from the reddest part of a red state.

Right on the border of new York and Sussex county.

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 07:14 AM

Don't worry Jezo, I've made a call and got you bumped up to the top of The List. It will all be over soon. :bye:

Nice

brettmojo

11-07-2008, 07:16 AM

I hope President Obama can reach across the aisle and put an end to quoting an entire post and just writing "x2" or "QFT".

Booooooo.

Without assing myself out like a couple of days ago
Let me just say this. The political leanings here are only representative of %53 of voters. The other %47 are alarmed to say the least. In my community people are stocking up food, buying guns, and liquidizing portions of their assets. Not everyone is an alarmist but people are scared, large swaths of otherwise reasonable people were talking about here. Its not his color that scares people its social progressisim that scares people. With no balence in our government and an old Clinton crony running shit inside the whitehouse and judges who legislate from the bench, its not hard to see why the other half is panicing.
Are people forgetting that not EVERYONE in this country voted? What was it? Like 60% of registered voters did so or whatever? SO how about the unregistered to vote folks? OR the 40% or so who didn't care to even vote? Now exactly how much of this country is actually "freaking out"?

Holy crap.\

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 07:17 AM

As the Republicans used to say "Elections have consequences. Deal with it." :wink:

Don't worry Jezo, I've made a call and got you bumped up to the top of The List. It will all be over soon. :bye:

:lol:

mikeyboy

11-07-2008, 07:17 AM

If we ever get Jezo to come to an event, how awesome would it be to have Dash and Pixie follow him around and pretend to whisper things to each other and scribble things in a notebook?

LordJezo

11-07-2008, 07:17 AM

This has to be a bit.

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Might have started under Bush but Obama is the one who will benefit from martial law in the usa.

If we ever get Jezo to come to an event, how awesome would it be to have Dash and Pixie follow him around and pretend to whisper things to each other and scribble things in a notebook?

I've been to events! Once. The Ron and Fez Welcome to XM Party.

I keep trying to come but things always happen where I can't. I am also afraid to come to events because now that I am married I don't want to run into some other board member that I ... had relations with ... while I am with the wife.

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 07:20 AM

If we ever get Jezo to come to an event, how awesome would it be to have Dash and Pixie follow him around and pretend to whisper things to each other and scribble things in a notebook?

They have to touch their ears with one finger while they whisper.

angrymissy

11-07-2008, 07:31 AM

Interesting maps:

http://www.dailykos.com/images/user/28416/map1.jpg
http://www.dailykos.com/images/user/28416/map2.jpg

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 07:34 AM

Interesting maps:

http://www.dailykos.com/images/user/28416/map1.jpg
http://www.dailykos.com/images/user/28416/map2.jpg

i would bet that jezo lives in one of the dark red squares.

Aggie

11-07-2008, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheMojoPin
keithy, it's a false point to just broadly sum up what amounts to "black pride" as "racism." I'm not saying all black people aren't or can't be racist, but you're generalizatons simply are not realistic given the social and economic fracturing in this country explicitly based on race. People with the clear advantage can't suddenly declare things to be "equal" when they obviously are not.

I'm a little late to the party, just reading through this thread.

I hate to admit it but I said the same thing as Keithy to my black husband on Wednesday. I didn't say he was racist but I thought he shouldn't base his decision solely on race. He voted for the first time in his life this year in the primary and general election simply because Obama was black. He had no real idea what his platform is, etc. It's his choice to not be involved in politics, it doesn't bother me.

But I was telling him when we have kids I want to teach them not to do things simply based on race like why he voted for Obama. Well, I hadn't really thought it through and after our discussion it is different being black in this country and I will just never understand it. There are things my kids and husband will be able to understand and relate to each other about that I just won't. After thinking about it I can see why it's different and why he would want to vote for him just based on race. He has to deal with being a black man every day in this country and the things I have learned and seen since being with him for the last 10 years have been so eye opening. Obviously racisim is still alive and well but it's so subtle that we just don't see it unless we're involved somehow. I can give endless examples just when we've been together that I've been shocked at how obviously racist people are. I can't imagine what he's dealt with when I'm not there, with just police alone. (Sorry Chris!)

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 07:46 AM

Jezo. Stop it. You're making up the most fantastic scenarios based on absolutely nothing, and it's getting real old real fast.

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 07:46 AM

everyone is making a big deal about nothing.

in the end, all that will happen is some people will pay a little higher taxes, the world will begin to hate us a little less, the economy will get a little better and life will go on as usual.

and i will finally get that threesome!!:thumbup:

NewYorkDragons80

11-07-2008, 07:48 AM

SSYA

So Says You Alone

Will President Obama act benevolently towards your kind? Only time will tell.

Furtherman

11-07-2008, 07:49 AM

and i will finally get that threesome!!:thumbup:

Only when Obama declares martial law and the tanks come down your street blaring AC/DC!

EliSnow

11-07-2008, 07:50 AM

Will President Obama act benevolently towards your kind? Only time will tell.

President Obama will not have the time, inclination or power to stop us from using terms like x2, QFMFT or SSWA.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 07:51 AM

I'm a little late to the party, just reading through this thread.

I hate to admit it but I said the same thing as Keithy to my black husband on Wednesday. I didn't say he was racist but I thought he shouldn't base his decision solely on race. He voted for the first time in his life this year in the primary and general election simply because Obama was black. He had no real idea what his platform is, etc. It's his choice to not be involved in politics, it doesn't bother me.

But I was telling him when we have kids I want to teach them not to do things simply based on race like why he voted for Obama. Well, I hadn't really thought it through and after our discussion it is different being black in this country and I will just never understand it. There are things my kids and husband will be able to understand and relate to each other about that I just won't. After thinking about it I can see why it's different and why he would want to vote for him just based on race. He has to deal with being a black man every day in this country and the things I have learned and seen since being with him for the last 10 years have been so eye opening. Obviously racisim is still alive and well but it's so subtle that we just don't see it unless we're involved somehow. I can give endless examples just when we've been together that I've been shocked at how obviously racist people are. I can't imagine what he's dealt with when I'm not there, with just police alone. (Sorry Chris!)

Aggie, you're already taking the best step in having interracial kids.

Seriously, when the world is finally all mixed, it's gonna rule.

King Hippos Bandaid

11-07-2008, 07:53 AM

creepy fake wedding guy and Sheepy stalker is the better alter ego

who knew

spew your garbage to a receptive audience

its like talking about the Paul Harvey show on this site, it doesn't fucking fit

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 07:56 AM

Aggie, you're already taking the best step in having interracial kids.

Seriously, when the world is finally all mixed, it's gonna rule.

there will be alot more really attractive kids in the world.

wait... that didnt come out right...

i gotta go the FBI is at the door...

LordJezo

11-07-2008, 07:57 AM

creepy fake wedding guy

But I had a picture of the ring!

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 07:58 AM

Riots wont be allowed to break out. Now that there is going to be an active branch of the military stations inside the country to clamp down on civilian threats riots will be brought down with great brutality.

Now while my examples are a bit more insane it's refreshing to hear someone else talk about almost the same stories from his area. Both of us seem to be from NJ as well, just more proof that folks here are sitting with their heads in the sand ignoring the fear that is all around them.

Please don't quote me. I have a feeling you're running with a bad bit guy.

King Hippos Bandaid

11-07-2008, 08:00 AM

But I had a picture of the ring!

a mere prop

I can give my wedding ring to Randy and he could be married

but we know that California stopped him from ever getting married

Dougie Brootal

11-07-2008, 08:01 AM

I can give my wedding ring to Randy

mod quote?

LordJezo

11-07-2008, 08:06 AM

a mere prop

I can give my wedding ring to Randy and he could be married

but we know that California stopped him from ever getting married

How about when the baby Jezos start popping out in a couple of years?

mikeyboy

11-07-2008, 08:06 AM

a mere prop

I can give my wedding ring to Randy and he could be married

but we know that California stopped him from ever getting married

California never allowed incestuous marriage.

brettmojo

11-07-2008, 08:07 AM

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 08:07 AM

How about when the baby Jezos start popping out in a couple of years?

I'll assume you'll be standing by with a knife and fork in your insane post-apocalyptic wasteland a la The Road.

King Hippos Bandaid

11-07-2008, 08:08 AM

California never allowed incestuous marriage.

damn you, I should have used some one else

turned on me again

How about when the baby Jezos start popping out in a couple of years?

there a better chance of Baby Jesus coming in a few years then Baby Jezo's

i kid, but u seem kinda fruity

Aggie

11-07-2008, 08:12 AM

Aggie, you're already taking the best step in having interracial kids.

Seriously, when the world is finally all mixed, it's gonna rule.

I try to do my part.

there will be alot more really attractive kids in the world.

Yeah, if they don't look like Halle Berry and Derek Jeter I'm returning them.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 08:14 AM

I try to do my part.

Yeah, if they don't look like Halle Berry and Derek Jeter I'm returning them.

Interracial kids seem to be amazing at something even if they're randomly not really good looking.

It really is the next evolutionary step.

jamie38

11-07-2008, 08:20 AM

He's going to take away the abilities for the law enforcement to do their job.

http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/civil_rights/#racial-profiling

Sickening.

A guy came into work just now who has been off for the past few days, sick from the election results, word on the street now is that the economic collapse will begin in March paving the way for the North American Union and the removal of the dollar as our currency which will be replaced by The Amero, the north American currency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero

America as it is now is limited in years, our sovereignty will be dissolved and we will be forced into the world community.
Sickening? Ok I can understand people who are in favor of racial profiling and see it as a necessary evil in preventing crime. Though I don't agree with them, I can see some valid points in the argument. But, are you seriously sickened by the idea of law enforcement being forced to look past the color of one's skin? Seriously?

And just because your political party isn't in office anymore doesn't mean the world is going to end. Grow up and stop getting your information from kooky websites and sources.

Freitag

11-07-2008, 08:48 AM

I try to do my part.

Yeah, if they don't look like Halle Berry and Derek Jeter I'm returning them.

Mitigating factor - what if they look like Lenny Kravitz?

Freitag

11-07-2008, 08:52 AM

If we ever get Jezo to come to an event, how awesome would it be to have Dash and Pixie follow him around and pretend to whisper things to each other and scribble things in a notebook?

I just got a visual of Pixie as Sutherland in the end of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 08:56 AM

Mitigating factor - what if they look like Lenny Kravitz?

Lenny Kravitz is, for better or for worse, considered one of the "beautiful people."

Hell, he's better looking than potato-headed Jeter.

NewYorkDragons80

11-07-2008, 09:08 AM

President Obama will not have the time, inclination or power to stop us from using terms like x2, QFMFT or SSWA.
Awww... literal Eli strikes again!!!

Aggie

11-07-2008, 09:34 AM

Mitigating factor - what if they look like Lenny Kravitz?

Hell, I'd be happy.

He's in one of my sigs of featuring hot mixed race men. Lenny Kravitz, Derek Jeter, James Blake and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. HOT!

http://ronfez.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=756

Freitag

11-07-2008, 10:08 AM

Hell, I'd be happy.

He's in one of my sigs of featuring hot mixed race men.

Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. HOT!

You know, now he just walked out and Sickboy's all upset.

lingerlonger.

K.C.

11-07-2008, 11:32 AM

Pretty decent first press conference.

He didn't say too much, other than passing a stimulus package and extending unemployment benefits would be his first priority if Bush doesn't get one done before he leaves office.

The tone was completely different than the ever so rare Bush pressers over the years.

NewYorkDragons80

11-07-2008, 11:34 AM

I was howling when he said a shelter dog would be a mutt like him. That was a pretty good line.

high fly

11-07-2008, 12:15 PM

I'm digging the fact he has quote-maching Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff.

Emanuel said, after the "Mission Accomplished" speech,

"That's like spiking the ball on the 50 yard-line"

Also, when Bill Frist was caught up in financial scandal about the time he was giving long-distance diagnoses of Terry Schiavo, Emanuel said,

"Bill Frist has this all upside down. He thought Terry Schiavo could see and his trust was blind."

HBox

11-07-2008, 12:27 PM

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/07/november42008.jpg

high fly

11-07-2008, 12:39 PM

4 years of this crap, eh?
Is that what we have to look forward to?

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 12:44 PM

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/07/november42008.jpg

I got this in a forward today. I never forward but this one was funny.

brettmojo

11-07-2008, 12:45 PM

4 years of this crap, eh?
Is that what we have to look forward to?
No.

It'll be 8 years.

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 12:55 PM

No.
It'll be 8 years.

Doubtful

celery

11-07-2008, 12:58 PM

Doubtful

bet?

hammersavage

11-07-2008, 01:04 PM

You know, now he just walked out and Sickboy's all upset.

lingerlonger.

Wow. wayyy longer.

And take the bet, Sean. Who will remember in 4 years anyway?

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 01:05 PM

Doubtful

Yeah, there's no way he'll beat McCain/Palin in the general el.... errr...

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 01:06 PM

No.

It'll be 8 years.

They always run late. :)

mikeyboy

11-07-2008, 01:11 PM

Doubtful

Well, your last Presidential election prediction went so well.

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 01:16 PM

Well, your last Presidential election prediction went so well.

I just want to throw a little cold water on this "party". There is no evidence to prove that this was a "historic" shift or a great movement in American politics. Which makes Obama's re-elect a 50/50 prop at best right now. Moreover, the map still benefits Republicans as well as the redistricting maps in a few years. A lot of Republican operatives and staffers are down right now. I think this gives us an opportunity.

HBox

11-07-2008, 01:17 PM

Yeah, there's no way he'll beat McCain/Palin in the general el.... errr...

Everyone also forgets his "McCain will be ahead by 2 on Monday in the Gallup Poll" following the first debate. Not only was he wrong, McCain was never not trailing since.

celery

11-07-2008, 01:17 PM

Well, your last Presidential election prediction went so well.

Originally Posted by JerseySean
A loser isnt radioactive. A 20 point loser is. Yes McCain can stage a comeback in the next 5 days. I know for a fact that public state polls in Florida, PA, OH and NV are wrong. Even the ones in NJ are wrong. I know for a fact -that Barry's early voting wish list hasnt been granted and those models are fucked up for him. Dont be shocked if he loses the electoral college vote. He wont top 300.

http://i34.tinypic.com/5ppie0.png

Furtherman

11-07-2008, 01:20 PM

Well, your last Presidential election prediction went so well.

Yea, all that "volatility" really came through. I wonder what else he knows as facts?

HBox

11-07-2008, 01:20 PM

To be fair he was right about Nevada. Obama won by MUCH more than the polls said.

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 01:23 PM

yojimbo7248

11-07-2008, 01:27 PM

King Hippos Bandaid

11-07-2008, 01:29 PM

u know what the Republicans were set to lose, Bush and Economy laid the ground work for a easy Democrat win. The real battle was the Clinton Bros vs Obama

Obama ran at the right time

instead of the Republicans calling us Dumbacrats and predicting a meek future, and being the stubborn snobby pricks that they are

how bout u sit back for 4 years

If Obama shits the bed, you come back with suitable candidates and take over Congress Senate and the Presidency

there are so many votes from either Moderate Republicans and usual non voters that went Obama's way. That wont happen again if he shits the bed.

celery

11-07-2008, 01:32 PM

Hey I went out on a limb and I was wrong. but I can show you piles of evidence that this election wasnt anything special at all. It was a less significant victory than Clinton in 92 and less impressive than most first term Presidents, aside from "W". By no stretch is this any sizemic shift.

You claimed that McCain was going to win, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. You kept repeating that you KNEW the polls were wrong, but couldn't give any evidence. And when asked to put your money where your mouth was (and take the bet), you backed down.

How do you expect to have any credibility left, when it's clear you overlook all logic and blindly support your party?

epo

11-07-2008, 01:38 PM

I just want to throw a little cold water on this "party". There is no evidence to prove that this was a "historic" shift or a great movement in American politics. Which makes Obama's re-elect a 50/50 prop at best right now. Moreover, the map still benefits Republicans as well as the redistricting maps in a few years. A lot of Republican operatives and staffers are down right now. I think this gives us an opportunity.

You are looking at a nation that has moved "center-left" and that is the reality that you must deal with.

3 of the last 5 electoral votes for President have gone democratic.
4 of the last 5 popular votes for President have gone democratic.
Strong majorities in Congress.
A majority of governor chair are democratic.
A majority of State Houses are democratic.

Face it sonny, this country is moving left after the legacy of Reagan/Bush.

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 01:39 PM

You claimed that McCain was going to win, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. You kept repeating that you KNEW the polls were wrong, but couldn't give any evidence. And when asked to put when your money when your mouth was (and take the bet), you backed down.

How do you expect to have any credibility left, when it's clear you overlook all logic and blindly support your party?

This is a credibility issue Sean. Your predictions aren't worth much here, unless it has to do with football bets, then you are the third most reliable poster on this board.

brettmojo

11-07-2008, 01:40 PM

I just want to throw a little cold water on this "party". There is no evidence to prove that this was a "historic" shift or a great movement in American politics.

The American people basically got together and threw the Republican party out of the government.

Yeah, nothing worth noting there.

How do you expect to have any credibility left, when it's clear you overlook all logic and blindly support your party?
He doesn't, and had very little to begin with.

Kevin

11-07-2008, 01:57 PM

Question JS... The rep party in a last dirty gasp for FLA, called Cubans with a pre recorded message that said Castro officialy endorsed Obama. Now since you blamed Obama for some polling thing, because he was a Dem. Is it safe to say that McCain is to blame for this? Ill log off and read your response.

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:01 PM

You are looking at a nation that has moved "center-left" and that is the reality that you must deal with.

Strong majorities in Congress.
A majority of governor chair are democratic.
A majority of State Houses are democratic.

Face it sonny, this country is moving left after the legacy of Reagan/Bush.

All of this has occured in the last 2 election cycles. There was a following because of an "anti" movement. I urge you to look back at the post-Watergate elections of the seventies and look at voter ID, State House numbers, Gubenatorial races, etc. 4 years ago today, people were talking about the perminant GOP majoirty and how the Democrats wouldnt regain power for two decades. You can point to off-year elections in 2007 to see that without a national poisonous enviornment, those races shifted Republican....except of course VA. NJ picked up a seat, Lousiana picked up the lower House and the Governor and Kentucky expanded its majority. There is no evidence which suggests that this is anything but an "anti" movement or that turnout was any higher than 2004. All it says is that people didnt like the Bush administration or the Republican Party of the cycle. If 3 out every 100 people changed their mind, this is a different election. Its not a movement and frankly, it wasnt the showing Obama should have had in this enviornment

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:02 PM

west milly Tom

11-07-2008, 02:05 PM

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:06 PM

The American people basically got together and threw the Republican party out of the government.

Yeah, nothing worth noting there.

He doesn't, and had very little to begin with because he differed in opinion.

Fixed above for you.

As for the Republicans, they were defeated but not annihilated, as some in the party had feared. They emerged from the election with their base in the American heartland penetrated but largely intact. And for the 11th straight presidential contest since 1964, the GOP nominee won at least 159 electoral votes, a total the Democrats have fallen below a half dozen times in the post-World War II years.

In its contours, the 2008 election was positively “Bubbaesque.” Mr. Clinton won the popular vote by six percentage points in 1992, the same margin that Mr. Obama currently enjoys. Mr. Clinton won 370 electoral votes; Mr. Obama has 364 (with the recent addition of North Carolina to his column). Mr. Clinton was joined by 57 Senate and 258 House Democrats when he was first elected. The Democratic totals in both chambers should be nearly identical this time once the remaining undecided races are settled.

Where Messrs. Clinton and Obama dramatically differ is in their share of the popular vote. In 1992, Mr. Clinton took 43% in a three-way race that included independent Ross Perot. This time, Mr. Obama won 53%, the highest share for any presidential winner since 1988 when George H.W. Bush took a similar proportion of the vote. And Mr. Obama’s percentage represents the largest for any Democrat since Mr. Johnson in 1964. As such, Mr. Obama could claim more of a mandate than George W. Bush famously did after his re-election in 2004, when he drew 50.7% of the popular vote and 286 electoral votes.

http://blogs.wsj.com/politicalperceptions/2008/11/06/the-2008-election-a-fitting-outcome/

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:22 PM

http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/election_turnout_08.pdf

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:31 PM

You are looking at a nation that has moved "center-left" and that is the reality that you must deal with.

A majority of State Houses are democratic.

Face it sonny, this country is moving left after the legacy of Reagan/Bush.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/cr_20081108_1513.php

No coattails

Syd

11-07-2008, 02:32 PM

You are looking at a nation that has moved "center-left" and that is the reality that you must deal with.

3 of the last 5 electoral votes for President have gone democratic.
4 of the last 5 popular votes for President have gone democratic.
Strong majorities in Congress.
A majority of governor chair are democratic.
A majority of State Houses are democratic.

Face it sonny, this country is moving left after the legacy of Reagan/Bush.

The country has been center left since about FDR -- the blip that is Reagan/Bush isn't much compared to the decades beforehand.

epo

11-07-2008, 02:38 PM

http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/election_turnout_08.pdf

Since you provide only a link and NO analysis, I'll quote from Page 4 of this 34 page file:

1. The opportunity for long-term realignment.

The Democratic victory was not only large in margin and sweeping in scope, it was a continuation of their gains in their share of the eligible vote, which began after the 1980 election and many of their largest gains in 2008 came in states where Democrats had previously not had a foothold - in the post-Voting Rights Act south, in the mountain west and southwest.

Please, if you are going to link to something, provide a bit of context or personal analysis.

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:39 PM

The country has been center left since about FDR -- the blip that is Reagan/Bush isn't much compared to the decades beforehand.

From 1932 to 2008 including Obama,

Democrats won:

9 elections

republicans won

9 elections

The old "left" was purged in the late 70's and early 80's. The "new Democrat" majority is based on their ability because of their ability to recruit conservative Democrats in Kansas, Indiana, NC, LA, AL, MS, FL, TX, and NY.

JerseySean

11-07-2008, 02:41 PM

Since you provide only a link and NO analysis, I'll quote from Page 4 of this 34 page file:

Please, if you are going to link to something, provide a bit of context or personal analysis.

Yes, please see other post. A blip, not a sweeping change. No coattails, not an overly impressive nation win despite a HUGE national wind at their back, etc. Fairly unimpressive.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2008, 03:32 PM

I know for a fact that JerseySean is always wrong.

foodcourtdruide

11-07-2008, 04:40 PM

Yes, please see other post. A blip, not a sweeping change. No coattails, not an overly impressive nation win despite a HUGE national wind at their back, etc. Fairly unimpressive.

They won the presidency and control both parts of the legislative. I don't know what else you thought they'd do? Obama beat McCain by MUCH more than you THOUGHT he would, and for some reason you think it wasn't a big victory and he should have won by more.

For better or worse, 2006 and 2008 have changed the political landscape of this country. I don't know why it's hard for you to admit that.

epo

11-08-2008, 07:52 AM

They won the presidency and control both parts of the legislative. I don't know what else you thought they'd do? Obama beat McCain by MUCH more than you THOUGHT he would, and for some reason you think it wasn't a big victory and he should have won by more.

For better or worse, 2006 and 2008 have changed the political landscape of this country. I don't know why it's hard for you to admit that.

It was as Bob Novak would say, a "mandate".

epo

11-08-2008, 07:54 AM

A little video tape from C-Span on the Obama/Emanuel relationship. This is from a roast in 2005 in which Emanuel agreed to take abuse for an epilepsy charity.

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Its interesting to see how their relationship seems strong at that point.

thejives

11-08-2008, 08:11 AM

He's already giving weekly radio talks too (http://otrans.3cdn.net/a935f21490985cc7e6_z3m6ztacs.mp3).

And I think you'll notice, with his victory speech, his press conference and this radio address, that he's still ruthlessly on message. The discipline from the campaign has carried over and his priorities are being set in stone through repetition.

albo60s

11-08-2008, 04:50 PM

sorry I missed a couple days.
Ok now, where was I???
Oh yes, OBAMA STILL SUCKS!!!!!!

epo

11-08-2008, 04:56 PM

sorry I missed a couple days.
Ok now, where was I???
Oh yes, OBAMA STILL SUCKS!!!!!!

Sorry....that's President-Elect Obama to you.

AKA

11-08-2008, 05:27 PM

A little video tape from C-Span on the Obama/Emanuel relationship. This is from a roast in 2005 in which Emanuel agreed to take abuse for an epilepsy charity.

Its interesting to see how their relationship seems strong at that point.

I was at a friend's house today, and for some reason he had a November 2005 ROLLING STONE magazine laying around (the one with Bono on it), and inside was actually a really good article on Emanuel, and one of the pictures they used was one of him and Obama from the 2004 convention - and they looked VERY chummy.

In the same issue, there's an earlier blurb that mentions Obama running for President in 2008, with a joke about the frontman of Wilco running with him.

Tenbatsuzen

11-08-2008, 05:34 PM

Going back to Jezo's blabbering, wasn't the "never going to be another election" crap directly out of the anti-bush left-wing conspiracy theory playbook?

Syd

11-08-2008, 05:45 PM

From 1932 to 2008 including Obama,

Democrats won:

9 elections

republicans won

9 elections

The old "left" was purged in the late 70's and early 80's. The "new Democrat" majority is based on their ability because of their ability to recruit conservative Democrats in Kansas, Indiana, NC, LA, AL, MS, FL, TX, and NY.

Party affiliation doesn't really matter much compared to actual policy, oddly enough.

KnoxHarrington

11-08-2008, 08:19 PM

Good rundown on just what a sea change in the electorate this election was here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081108/ap_on_el_pr/obama_majority;_ylt=AnYIPt9FojE.S6Rh8mKGF0ms0NUE

Did you know that Obama got more white and Catholic voters than Kerry did? And he improved on Kerry's performance in the South so much that the Democratic Party is seriously thinking they can make inroads into the South.

Now, let's not get swept away into the "permanent majority" arrogance that I think really hurt the Republican party. But this is a showing that can be built on for further gains. And it's setting up a board that really looks to favor Obama's chances for re-election.

epo

11-08-2008, 08:22 PM

razorboy

11-08-2008, 08:26 PM

The big winner historically that few people are talking about is Howard Dean.

Not as far as I'm concerned. He deserves all of the credit in the world.

epo

11-08-2008, 08:29 PM

Not as far as I'm concerned. He deserves all of the credit in the world.

Historically they will study the candidacy of Senator Clinton and try to find the error within her campaign. I'll tell you now the error was before her campaign was launched there was two finalists for the "campaign manager" job:

Mark Penn and Joe Trippi

Choosing Mark Penn was like choosing "Ms. Pac-Man" in a Nintendo Wii society.

King Imp

11-08-2008, 08:56 PM

epo

11-08-2008, 09:03 PM

What do you all think about the news that John Kerry is a strong candidate for Secretary of State?

I don't know much about his foreign policy credentials, but I keep thinking that this is the man that couldn't even beat Bush in 2004 (either in the electoral or popular vote) when just about everyone hated Bush. What does that say about Kerry?

I've always heard that Secretary of State is one of the most desirable jobs in Washington. The names I've heard include Kerry, Governor Bill Richardson, Susan Rice, Senator Richard Lugar, Dick Holbrooke and Greg Craig.

That being said, an individuals ability to win an election should not be a precursor for their selection to this post.

scottinnj

11-08-2008, 09:11 PM

sorry I missed a couple days.
Ok now, where was I???
Oh yes, OBAMA STILL SUCKS!!!!!!

ugh :annoyed:

Sorry....that's President-Elect Obama to you.

FACE!!!

scottinnj

11-08-2008, 09:13 PM

I'm more excited about this then I thought I would be. We're this close now to really getting off the ground with alternative energy, which will go a long way with my pet peeve, national security. We get off oil, more then half of our problems are gone.

scottinnj

11-08-2008, 09:17 PM

foodcourtdruide

11-09-2008, 12:09 AM

Not as far as I'm concerned. He deserves all of the credit in the world.

Funny, I remember some of the right-wing fringe saying Dean leading the DNC was a huge mistake. Wow, were they wrong. Howard Dean is a brilliant guy that basically got one of the worst media hatchet jobs in history.

TheMojoPin

11-09-2008, 07:11 AM

I've always heard that Secretary of State is one of the most desirable jobs in Washington. The names I've heard include Kerry, Governor Bill Richardson, Susan Rice, Senator Richard Lugar, Dick Holbrooke and Greg Craig.

That being said, an individuals ability to win an election should not be a precursor for their selection to this post.

Lugar would be my pick, but I think he's already at least implied he doesn't want it. I hope that's not the case.

yojimbo7248

11-09-2008, 07:21 AM

I'm hoping for Richardson for Secretary of State. I hear he is also being seriously considered for DNI.

KnoxHarrington

11-09-2008, 07:27 AM

I'm hoping for Richardson for Secretary of State. I hear he is also being seriously considered for DNI.

Richardson would be a great Sec. of State.

Defense is going to be a really key position too. I'd like to see some of the moves to priviatize basic military functions be rolled back; that is, get at least some of that stuff out of the hands of Halliburton and Blackwater and other companies. The Pentagon needs a good fumigation.

JerseySean

11-09-2008, 07:45 AM

Funny, I remember some of the right-wing fringe saying Dean leading the DNC was a huge mistake. Wow, were they wrong. Howard Dean is a brilliant guy that basically got one of the worst media hatchet jobs in history.

Agreed. Dean had done a fantastic job. He has been helped by national enviornment, but his use of different tactics and in reality copying and modifying the GOP model had made him fantastic.

NewYorkDragons80

11-09-2008, 07:58 AM

Funny, I remember some of the right-wing fringe saying Dean leading the DNC was a huge mistake. Wow, were they wrong. Howard Dean is a brilliant guy that basically got one of the worst media hatchet jobs in history.

I think Dean is getting too much of the credit now. I thought he was a poor choice back in the spring when the party was a mess and he had no idea how to handle the Hillary/Obama feud. The reason the 50 state strategy worked was because the candidate was charismatic and a skilled fundraiser who was dishonest about federal matching funds. Otherwise, even in this climate, his party didn't raise any money compared to the Republicans even when public opinion is decidedly in his party's favor.

JerseySean

11-09-2008, 08:12 AM

I think Dean is getting too much of the credit now. I thought he was a poor choice back in the spring when the party was a mess and he had no idea how to handle the Hillary/Obama feud. The reason the 50 state strategy worked was because the candidate was charismatic and a skilled fundraiser who was dishonest about federal matching funds. Otherwise, even in this climate, his party didn't raise any money compared to the Republicans even when public opinion is decidedly in his party's favor.

The 50 state strategy worked in 2006. The DNC has never been a big money group like the RNC. The 50 state model though, only works if the DCCC raises money as well as the Senatoral committee

KnoxHarrington

11-09-2008, 08:58 PM

The First and Second Families have been assigned their Secret Service code names. And here you go:

President-elect Barack Obama: "Renegade"

First Lady-elect Michelle Obama: "Renaissance"

First Oldest Daughter-elect Malia Obama: "Radiance"

First Youngest Daughter-elect Sasha Obama: "Rosebud"

Vice President-elect Joe Biden: "Celtic"

Second Lady-elect Jill Biden: "Capri"

And, for point of comparison, George and Laura Bush's code names are "Tumbler" and "Tempo", respectively.

In case you're wondering, "Hey, should they really be giving these names out anyway?", the code names serve no actual purpose anymore. The Secret Service uses radios that operate on encrypted frequencies, so they don't bother with code names in actual operations.

Source: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-obama_code_names_bdnov09,0,7865884.story

KnoxHarrington

11-09-2008, 09:00 PM

I think Dean is getting too much of the credit now. I thought he was a poor choice back in the spring when the party was a mess and he had no idea how to handle the Hillary/Obama feud. The reason the 50 state strategy worked was because the candidate was charismatic and a skilled fundraiser who was dishonest about federal matching funds. Otherwise, even in this climate, his party didn't raise any money compared to the Republicans even when public opinion is decidedly in his party's favor.

What do you mean "he had no idea how to handle the Hillary/Obama feud"? He basically managed to stand his ground and tell the Clinton Brothers to go screw about their attempts to manipulate the process, and did it so diplomatically it didn't cause as much bitterness as it could have.

That whole "Bitter Hillary voters are going to hand the election to McCain" thing turned out to be as much bullshit as the "Bradley effect."

A.J.

11-09-2008, 10:03 PM

The First and Second Families have been assigned their Secret Service code names. And here you go:

President-elect Barack Obama: "Renegade"

I will think of this every time I hear Styx.

PapaBear

11-09-2008, 10:13 PM

I will think of this every time I hear Styx.
When was the last time you heard Styx? Was it on purpose? Please tell me. I'm concerned for you, Budday.

A.J.

11-10-2008, 01:17 AM

When was the last time you heard Styx? Was it on purpose? Please tell me. I'm concerned for you, Budday.

94.7 The Globe.

El Mudo

11-10-2008, 01:37 AM

94.7 The Globe.

I thought 94.7 was The Arrow? :tongue:

A.J.

11-10-2008, 06:05 AM

I thought 94.7 was The Arrow? :tongue:

Long ago twas.

scottinnj

11-10-2008, 01:56 PM

It's begun already. And he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Douchebags (http://www.grassfire.org/111/petition.asp?pid=18691210).

And I say that not because I disrespect their right to free speech, it's that I disrespect their tone of speech.

"Loyal Opposition" doesn't mean hate-mongering.

scottinnj

11-10-2008, 06:45 PM

I will think of this every time I hear Styx.

"every time"

Does this mean you seek out this noise?

Or is it just Marc with a c whispering the lyrics in your ear?

ahhdurr

11-10-2008, 07:51 PM

"every time"

Does this mean you seek out this noise?

Or is it just Marc with a c whispering the lyrics in your ear?

"if you want... I'll (bleep) your (bleep)"

scottinnj

11-10-2008, 08:19 PM

"if you want... I'll (bleep) your (bleep)"

How'd you know I'm AKA 'jeebjeebjeebjeeb' in the FBA shelter?

ahhdurr

11-11-2008, 08:52 AM

:lol:How'd you know I'm AKA 'jeebjeebjeebjeeb' in the FBA shelter?
:lol:

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 03:01 AM

Have the forced labor camps for children been brought up yet in this thread?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5315/101108shot1axx6.jpg

His web page has since been scrubbed in order to keep people from getting nervous and scared of this potential of Nazi-esque Youth forced groups but no doubt he'll spring it upon everyone once he is installed in January.

Going to be some hard times ahead for anyone who does not agree.

TobyWong

11-12-2008, 03:08 AM

razorboy

11-12-2008, 03:11 AM

OK. Now This is getting laughable.

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 03:23 AM

OK. Now This is getting laughable.

Laughable? It was right on his official home page. 100 hours for college kids a year, 55 hours for children under that.

And what the hell are the Clean Energy Corps? Will civilians be called upon to report each other now if we don't recycle properly or come after us if we have drafty windows? Will we be mocked by the Clean Energy Corps if we dont drive hybrids? He's going to mobilize us against each other.

razorboy

11-12-2008, 03:26 AM

IMSlacker

11-12-2008, 03:34 AM

Laughable? It was right on his official home page. 100 hours for college kids a year, 55 hours for children under that.

And what the hell are the Clean Energy Corps? Will civilians be called upon to report each other now if we don't recycle properly or come after us if we have drafty windows? Will we be mocked by the Clean Energy Corps if we dont drive hybrids? He's going to mobilize us against each other.

Where can I sign up for this non-hybrid mocking? It sounds wonderful.

TobyWong

11-12-2008, 03:42 AM

Laughable? It was right on his official home page. 100 hours for college kids a year, 55 hours for children under that.

And what the hell are the Clean Energy Corps? Will civilians be called upon to report each other now if we don't recycle properly or come after us if we have drafty windows? Will we be mocked by the Clean Energy Corps if we dont drive hybrids? He's going to mobilize us against each other.

God forbid we would be mocked by a government agency. That might make me cry.

Freakshow

11-12-2008, 04:53 AM

When was the last time you heard Styx? Was it on purpose? Please tell me. I'm concerned for you, Budday.

Plenty of Styx on channels 46 and 49...

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 05:10 AM

Gun sales surging on fears Obama will remove the 2nd amendment:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

TobyWong

11-12-2008, 05:15 AM

Gun sales surging on fears Obama will remove the 2nd amendment:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Nice to see someone's business is booming in this economic downturn.

EliSnow

11-12-2008, 05:20 AM

Laughable? It was right on his official home page. 100 hours for college kids a year, 55 hours for children under that.

And what the hell are the Clean Energy Corps? Will civilians be called upon to report each other now if we don't recycle properly or come after us if we have drafty windows? Will we be mocked by the Clean Energy Corps if we dont drive hybrids? He's going to mobilize us against each other.

It's laughable because he's not making it mandatory -- he's calling for volunteers. Similar to the call that JFK did when he said "Do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Again, this bit of yours sucks.

~Katja~

11-12-2008, 05:23 AM

just saw this, there may be another thread for the Obama puppy to be...
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92026/?fp=1

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081110/i/r1571606815.jpg?x=400&y=299&q=85&sig=KVQ4WcSAID4flxxOXFHMcA--

First Pup Material?
Presidential Pooch Watch
by Claudine Zap

November 11, 2008 12:16:21 PM

Ever since president-elect Obama mentioned that his kids are getting a puppy, dog lovers around the world have been panting with anticipation to learn what kind of dog will become first pup.

Obama, who described the decision as a "major issue," is on the hunt for an allergy-free dog, since daughter Malia is allergic. Seeing that Obama is the first "global president," it's not surprising that the Fido frenzy has gone international.

Peru has suggested its native Peruvian hairless dog, a bald, toothless breed, which actually looks cuter than it sounds.

....

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 05:35 AM

Again, this bit of yours sucks. [/SIZE][/FONT]

Not a bit at all. You guys just want to think it is to pretend like half the country isn't afraid of what is going to happen.

I am here at work going over a Cabela's catalog with my co-workers trying to decide how we need to protect ourselves in the coming years.

And it will start off as a volunteer program but peer pressure will force all to conform. Hitler Youth wasn't required either, but if you didn't join you would be branded a traitor to your leader.

foodcourtdruide

11-12-2008, 05:39 AM

Not a bit at all. You guys just want to think it is to pretend like half the country isn't afraid of what is going to happen.

I am here at work going over a Cabela's catalog with my co-workers trying to decide how we need to protect ourselves in the coming years.

And it will start off as a volunteer program but peer pressure will force all to conform. Hitler Youth wasn't required either, but if you didn't join you would be branded a traitor to your leader.

I think the only thing you have to worry about being branded as is a paranoid guy on a messageboard.

You understand people think this is a bit because you sound completely ridiculous, right?

EliSnow

11-12-2008, 05:42 AM

Not a bit at all. You guys just want to think it is to pretend like half the country isn't afraid of what is going to happen.

No, we just know that you keep making idiotic statements that have no basis what-so-fucking-ever.

I would bet money that you're playing a bit that you're stupid. But if you say it's not a bit, then it's not a bit.

And it will start off as a volunteer program but peer pressure will force all to conform. Hitler Youth wasn't required either, but if you didn't join you would be branded a traitor to your leader.

The Peace Corps never became a mandatory program. You took one example of one volunteer program that became "mandatory," and ignore the other 99% that never did.

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 05:52 AM

It's all real...

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2705/19354358lo3.jpg

angrymissy

11-12-2008, 05:59 AM

It was mandatory at my High School to do community service.

The world didn't fall apart. 11 years later, my brother just had to do it to graduate.

Dougie Brootal

11-12-2008, 06:02 AM

It's all real...

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2705/19354358lo3.jpg

no one thought the "reading a magazine" part was a bit...

foodcourtdruide

11-12-2008, 06:04 AM

It was mandatory at my High School to do community service.

The world didn't fall apart. 11 years later, my brother just had to do it to graduate.

I actually like the idea of having high school students do community service and giving back to the community. When I was in high school I volunteered at a hospital and it really taught me a lot. I think there should be exceptions for kids that actually have to work to help make ends meet in their family, but what's so wrong with a high school student doing some community service? They're taking a public service (education), why not have them give back?

Furtherman

11-12-2008, 06:40 AM

no one thought the "reading a magazine" part was a bit...

I doubt he can actually read considering his thought process is swiss cheese.

Jujubees2

11-12-2008, 06:49 AM

And it will start off as a volunteer program but peer pressure will force all to conform. Hitler Youth wasn't required either, but if you didn't join you would be branded a traitor to your leader.

Kind of like if you didn't support the Iraq war you weren't a true American?

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 06:53 AM

TheMojoPin

11-12-2008, 07:01 AM

It was mandatory at my High School to do community service.

The world didn't fall apart. 11 years later, my brother just had to do it to graduate.

Same here.

Hell, I've got to do another 20-30 hours to get my new degree.

Jezo, just because you know or read about a bunch of paranoid idiots who have made up the idea that Obama will "ban guns," nevermind that the gun issue barely came up in his campaign, or in his books or on his website, doesn't magically make it areality that he's going after guns. It's completely sideways logic based on nothing in reality.

TheMojoPin

11-12-2008, 07:02 AM

Indentured servitude of the children I am already paying for to go to that school is criminal.

It's not "indentured servitude." It's not "criminal." It's also nothing new.

Aggie

11-12-2008, 07:08 AM

I actually like the idea of having high school students do community service and giving back to the community. When I was in high school I volunteered at a hospital and it really taught me a lot. I think there should be exceptions for kids that actually have to work to help make ends meet in their family, but what's so wrong with a high school student doing some community service? They're taking a public service (education), why not have them give back?

I went to private Catholic school and we had our "Senior Project" which was a required 50 hours of service in order to graduate. I hated that it was mandatory but glad they did it at the same time. Everyone feels good giving back.

If we had more people doing this on their own in the community we wouldn't need so many government programs to help people. I think it's our duty to help people in need together.

foodcourtdruide

11-12-2008, 07:21 AM

I give back with my school taxes.

Indentured servitude of the children I am already paying for to go to that school is criminal.

Stop with the hyperbole's, please. Indentured servitude? Are you kidding? Kids in high school don't pay much in the way of school taxes.

S.D.B.P.

11-12-2008, 07:37 AM

http://ronfez.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=62&pictureid=759

IMSlacker

11-12-2008, 07:42 AM

OMG! Shirley Phelps-Roper is right!

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/IMSlacker/obama666.jpg

Freakshow

11-12-2008, 07:47 AM

http://ronfez.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=62&pictureid=759

just saw this, there may be another thread for the Obama puppy to be...
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92026/?fp=1

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081110/i/r1571606815.jpg?x=400&y=299&q=85&sig=KVQ4WcSAID4flxxOXFHMcA--

?

brettmojo

11-12-2008, 01:49 PM

http://www.headostate.com/

brettmojo

11-12-2008, 01:59 PM

They're taking a public service (education), why not have them give back?
Cause' it'd be complete bullshit. People pay taxes, state and local, that pay for their public education. Requiring students to supply free work, and that is all it boils down to, for their counties or districts or however it'll be worked out is wrong. Especially when community service is already being used as punishment.

What is that saying to kids who aren't the punks and future criminals that the delinquents that you see in orange jumpsuits picking up trash on the side of the road are when you tell them,"OH HEY! Guess what? You have to do the same work that those future burdens on society have to do because you have the privilege of learning in an underfunded and overpopulated public educational system!"

That'll be great to tell them after you say,"OH BY THE WAY! They just cut your school budget again! No more art programs or band for you!".

Aggie

11-12-2008, 02:03 PM

just saw this, there may be another thread for the Obama puppy to be...
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92026/?fp=1

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081110/i/r1571606815.jpg?x=400&y=299&q=85&sig=KVQ4WcSAID4flxxOXFHMcA--

I'd be pissed if my dad got me that dog, it's pretty ugly. Sorry!

Poodle is the answer, they don't shed/have no dander. That's how the goldendoodles/labradoodles got started. So blind people who were allergic to dogs could still get a seeing eye dog.

razorboy

11-12-2008, 02:15 PM

Go French Bulldog. They're the best dogs in the world and it'll piss off the hayseeds.

~Katja~

11-12-2008, 02:16 PM

Go French Bulldog. They're the best dogs in the world and it'll piss off the hayseeds.

you can't let anything french in the white house

and I think the naked pup is not really THAT ugly

Dougie Brootal

11-12-2008, 02:18 PM

I think the naked pup is not really THAT ugly

you think wrong.:bye:

TheMojoPin

11-12-2008, 03:35 PM

Cause' it'd be complete bullshit. People pay taxes, state and local, that pay for their public education. Requiring students to supply free work, and that is all it boils down to, for their counties or districts or however it'll be worked out is wrong. Especially when community service is already being used as punishment.

What is that saying to kids who aren't the punks and future criminals that the delinquents that you see in orange jumpsuits picking up trash on the side of the road are when you tell them,"OH HEY! Guess what? You have to do the same work that those future burdens on society have to do because you have the privilege of learning in an underfunded and overpopulated public educational system!"

That'll be great to tell them after you say,"OH BY THE WAY! They just cut your school budget again! No more art programs or band for you!".

High schools all across the country, for many years now, already require students to participate in community service.

What you described in your example, trash pickup, is typically volunteer work. School-diected comunity service amost always involves actually working with and directly helping other people.

TooLowBrow

11-12-2008, 03:36 PM

High schools all across the country, for many years now, already require students to participate in community service.

What you described in your example, trash pickup, is typically volunteer work. School-diected comunity service amost always involves actually working with and directly helping other people.

the whole thing was outlined by Robert Redford in 'Lions for Lambs'

LordJezo

11-12-2008, 03:50 PM

TheMojoPin

11-12-2008, 04:05 PM

My work day ended today with some folks debating if they wanted to spend money on hand guns because they are afraid of the restrictions Obama is expected to bring or if they should spend that money on pure gold coins due to the fact that Obama is expected to absolve the dollar and bring in the Amero.

The paranoia is running rampant, those guys are even worse than I am with what they expect to happen.

At least you recognize it as paranoia.

Seriously, where did all the gun stuff come from? It's based on practically nothing that's been said or done in the last few years. The Democrats have had control of the executive and the legislative before and didn't try to ban all guns or take all the guns away from people that already own them.

IMSlacker

11-12-2008, 04:34 PM

scottinnj

11-12-2008, 05:09 PM

The Peace Corps never became a mandatory program. You took one example of one volunteer program that became "mandatory," and ignore the other 99% that never did.

Agreed.
Neither was Clinton's Youth Corps, aka the National Service stuff mandatory. If you chose to be a volunteer, you got additional college benefits from the Feds over and above those who applied for conventional loans.

And LordJezo:
AND STOP WITH THE HITLER YOUTH SHIT! I HATED IT WHEN BUSH WAS CALLED A NAZI, AND I WON'T PUT UP WITH IT TOWARDS OBAMA EITHER!

Whether you agreed with Bush or not, or agree with Obama or not, the "Nazi" and "Hitler" comparisons are tired and worthless.

In the past 8 years, has anyone seen a death camp, or smelled something funny coming out of smokestack? And don't say GITMO, because those fuckos have been fed better then our troops, have every opportunity to worship Allah any damn way they feel fit, and have better cells then federal prisoners do. So don't give me that shit-it's a line of shit spoonfed to you by empty suits looking for ratings or votes.

And on the other hand, how do you make the jump from a "Youth Corps." designed to help college students earn tuition money in return for civil service to the "Hitler Youth?"
Have we seen legions of little Clintonistas marching from The Mall to The White House to pay homage to Clinton, Bush or Obama? And BTW, BUSH INCREASED FUNDING FOR IT!
Civil Service is a good thing, makes our kids better citizens, helps our communities, and helps pay for college without that payment being a "handout"

I am so sick of the Hitler comparison. It totally demeans the level of evil he is forever a symbol of.

Bush turned out to be an asshole.
Obama may turn out to be a douchebag.
Hitler was an evil tyrant responsible for millions of casualties, the innocent civilians killed in ovens and soldiers killed fighting his regime around the world.

BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE-in other words, be careful how you reference HISTORY!

Jujubees2

11-12-2008, 05:12 PM

My work day ended today with some folks debating if they wanted to spend money on hand guns because they are afraid of the restrictions Obama is expected to bring or if they should spend that money on pure gold coins due to the fact that Obama is expected to absolve the dollar and bring in the Amero.

The paranoia is running rampant, those guys are even worse than I am with what they expect to happen.

Come on LordJezo, you've got to start expanding your material. The "He's going to take away our guns and get rid of the dollar" stories are getting old. Can't you come up with something better. Maybe something like "He's going to make fried chicken and watermelon the official food of the country and give Oprah a cabinet position"!

foodcourtdruide

11-12-2008, 05:21 PM

In the past 8 years, has anyone seen a death camp, or smelled something funny coming out of smokestack? And don't say GITMO, because those fuckos have been fed better then our troops, have every opportunity to worship Allah any damn way they feel fit, and have better cells then federal prisoners do. So don't give me that shit-it's a line of shit spoonfed to you by empty suits looking for ratings or votes.

Yeah, those prisoners are SO lucky. I wish I can be imprisoned in a foreign country without representation or trial. Three hot meals, ability to pray and a cell? SIGN ME UP!

HBox

11-12-2008, 05:24 PM

Yeah, those prisoners are SO lucky. I wish I can be imprisoned in a foreign country without representation or trial. Three hot meals, ability to pray and a cell? SIGN ME UP!

Just call someone and make some vague threats. Then hang up the phone and wait. They even come and get you! The chauffeur service is exemplary.

scottinnj

11-12-2008, 05:46 PM

Yeah, those prisoners are SO lucky. I wish I can be imprisoned in a foreign country without representation or trial. Three hot meals, ability to pray and a cell? SIGN ME UP!

That's why it's called a prison. And your remark makes my point. I highlighted what I mean.

I didn't see too many jews celebrating Hannukah in Auschwitz, and I haven't seen a starving POW in Gitmo yet.

Like I said, you may disagree with Bush on such things, but the comparisons to Hitler and the Death Camps were stupid and showed a real lack of critical thinking. But my argument isn't with you, it's more with LordJezo unless he posts a "wakka wakka" or something.

scottinnj

11-12-2008, 05:48 PM

Just call someone and make some vague threats. Then hang up the phone and wait. They even come and get you! The chauffeur service is exemplary.

I do that all the time with my buddy. I just start saying "bomb" over and over again in the middle of the conversation, just to keep 'em on their toes.

Hey, someone's gotta do it!

HBox

11-12-2008, 05:57 PM

Rahm Facts: In case you weren't aware of how bad-ass Rahm Emanuel is. (http://www.rahmfacts.com/)

underdog

11-12-2008, 06:34 PM

razorboy

11-12-2008, 06:46 PM

STOP SAYING THIS STUFF HAPPENED. NO, IT DIDN'T.

But it has to be real. He showed a picture of himself holding a catalog.

thejives

11-12-2008, 06:48 PM

This is the difference between democrats and republicans. When Democrats lose an election they think about moving to Canada. When Republicans lose an election they start buying guns.

PapaBear

11-12-2008, 06:53 PM

razorboy

11-12-2008, 06:58 PM

Idiots. They should be buying gold guns.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/img_42.jpg

K.C.

11-12-2008, 07:00 PM

There's some rumors floating around about who will be appointed to fill both the Obama and Biden seats in the Senate.

Both states have Democratic governors, so the seats will stay blue.

The names being thrown around for Obama's seat is Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr, former Congresswoman Tammy Duckworth, and Illinois State Senator and former Obama mentor Emil Jones.

For Biden's seat, the two most talked about candidates are former Lieutenant Governor John Carney, and Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who is Joe's son.

Evan Bayh also put out the possibility that if Joe Lieberman were removed from his Homeland Security post, it's likely that he may retire from the Senate altogether.

Lieberman's replacement in that scenario would be appointed by a Republican Governor, and could possibly be recently defeated Congressman Chris Shays.

KnoxHarrington

11-12-2008, 07:01 PM

Come on LordJezo, you've got to start expanding your material. The "He's going to take away our guns and get rid of the dollar" stories are getting old. Can't you come up with something better. Maybe something like "He's going to make fried chicken and watermelon the official food of the country and give Oprah a cabinet position"!

I'm fuckin' starvin'. We got any fried chicken and watermelon back there?

keithy_19

11-12-2008, 07:09 PM

STOP SAYING THIS STUFF HAPPENED. NO, IT DIDN'T.

I recently went out to PA to Cabellas. Yes it is happening. People are buying guns because they are afraid of restrictions that will be put in place.

Whether you agree with them or not, some people, a lot more than you think, are thinking like that.

keithy_19

11-12-2008, 07:11 PM

I'm fuckin' starvin'. We got any fried chicken and watermelon back there?

Obviously you've never had fried Oprah in watermelon sauce. De-fucking-licious.

PapaBear

11-12-2008, 07:12 PM

keithy_19

11-12-2008, 07:14 PM

At least they're helping the economy.

I think gun makers and gun providers are probably doing the best.

And ironically, it's with the governments help I guess.:huh:

~Katja~

11-12-2008, 07:17 PM

Obviously you've never had fried Oprah in watermelon sauce. De-fucking-licious.

but have you tried the harpo? fucking disgusting!!!!!

scottinnj

11-12-2008, 07:21 PM

When Republicans lose an election they start buying guns.

They're like chicks buying shoes during their walk of shame home after a bad lay.

thejives

11-12-2008, 07:25 PM

Their like chicks buying shoes during their walk of shame home after a bad lay.

They're a must have accessory along with a bunker and a transistor radio set to Savage.

scottinnj

11-12-2008, 07:41 PM

But it has to be real. He showed a picture of himself holding a catalog.

Meh. Cablela's Magazine is for city folk who don't know what true firepower is.

You want to buy ammo in bulk?

J & G Sales....1000 rounds of SKS ammo for 23 cents a round (http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/ammo-for-rifles/7-62x39/p/7-62x39-golden-tiger-fmj%2C-1000-round-cases-/cPath/12_41/products_id/1741). That'll make for a fun weekend.

Tenbatsuzen

11-12-2008, 08:02 PM

I turned on Stern today as part of my XM.

And now I can't get Pastor Manning saying "WHOOAAAA-BAMA!" out of my head.

epo

11-12-2008, 08:14 PM

I saw an interesting photo today from November 2007 of the now President-elect by photo-journalist Callie Shell. The photo was taken AFTER the regular media was gone and Obama was by himself.

http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0810/images/callie/09.jpg

This is telling to me in many ways, but mostly because without the lights, without the reporters...here is a man of power cleaning up after himself when he made a mess on a small business owner's counter.

It's a portrait that makes a man think.

mikeyboy

11-12-2008, 09:00 PM

Jujubees2

11-12-2008, 09:18 PM

There's also a nice piece in the sports section of Sunday's NY Daily News that talks about Obama's brother-in-law (he's the head basketball coach at Oregon State) and it talks about how Obama spent election day playing basketball and having dinner with the family. It was intersting to note that he sat around the kitchen table eating pie after getting back from Grant Park.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2008/11/08/2008-11-08_craig_robinson_has_always_been_there_for.html

HBox

11-12-2008, 09:28 PM

It was intersting to note that he sat around the kitchen table eating pie after getting back from Grant Park.

My God I hope they put the children to bed first.

KingKill

11-12-2008, 09:38 PM

I think this calls for a malt Licquor toast

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x187/DarkKing_bucket/52015s.jpg

epo

11-13-2008, 04:53 AM

The picture shows up as a little red x for me, so I'm going to assume he pooped on some guy's counter.

So not presidential.

Huh. It worked last night....I guess that's what I get for stealing images from other websites.

Anywho, here is the photo that seems to be missing:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii49/j2christ/09.jpg

epo

11-13-2008, 04:56 AM

You know you are a redneck if............

Kids in Idaho chant "Assassinate Obama" on school bus. (http://www.2news.tv/news/local/34274374.html)

REXBURG - Controversial words spoken by kids on a school bus have some Madison County parents concerned.

Matthew Whoolery and his wife aren't blaming the school district for what happened on the bus but they do think all parents need to be careful about what they say and teach their children.

Whoolery and his wife couldn't believe it when their second and third graders got off the bus last week and told them what other students were saying.

"They just hadn't heard anything like this before," said Whoolery. "They were chanting on the bus, 'Assassinate Obama. Assassinate Obama.' Then adding in a name sometimes of a classmate on the bus, 'Assassinate Obama and Kate.'"

Under the terms of the Bush Doctrine I perceive that as a threat and believe our nation has no choice other than to attack Idaho.

foodcourtdruide

11-13-2008, 05:33 AM

That's why it's called a prison. And your remark makes my point. I highlighted what I mean.

I didn't see too many jews celebrating Hannukah in Auschwitz, and I haven't seen a starving POW in Gitmo yet.

Like I said, you may disagree with Bush on such things, but the comparisons to Hitler and the Death Camps were stupid and showed a real lack of critical thinking. But my argument isn't with you, it's more with LordJezo unless he posts a "wakka wakka" or something.

lol, at least we can both agree to disagree with Lord Jezo :)

I don't compare Gitmo with Nazi Death Camps. However, I don't take the situation lightly either. Your previous post almost hinted as if we were doing the detainees a favor, saying they lived better than our troops. I don't think any of us would ever want to be in an innocent Gitmo detainees position (I AM NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT SAYING THAT ALL OF THEM ARE INNOCENT, that's why I made the distinction).

angrymissy

11-13-2008, 06:49 AM

Cause' it'd be complete bullshit. People pay taxes, state and local, that pay for their public education. Requiring students to supply free work, and that is all it boils down to, for their counties or districts or however it'll be worked out is wrong. Especially when community service is already being used as punishment.

What is that saying to kids who aren't the punks and future criminals that the delinquents that you see in orange jumpsuits picking up trash on the side of the road are when you tell them,"OH HEY! Guess what? You have to do the same work that those future burdens on society have to do because you have the privilege of learning in an underfunded and overpopulated public educational system!"

That'll be great to tell them after you say,"OH BY THE WAY! They just cut your school budget again! No more art programs or band for you!".

eh. Like I said, I had to do this in HS and I volunteered at the hospital. Most kids did either that or a Midnight Run. You weren't forced into one thing, you could choose which one you wanted to volunteer at.

angrymissy

11-13-2008, 06:49 AM

angrymissy

11-13-2008, 06:57 AM

I recently went out to PA to Cabellas. Yes it is happening. People are buying guns because they are afraid of restrictions that will be put in place.

Whether you agree with them or not, some people, a lot more than you think, are thinking like that.

No - Cabellas shoppers are thinking like that. That doesn't represent the country as a whole, it's a small targeted group of people.

The regular old people I know who rabidly supported McCain are over it.

It's like saying, "I went to a head shop and people were buying craploads of bongs after Bush was elected because he is going to outlaw bongs".

You know you are a redneck if............

Kids in Idaho chant "Assassinate Obama" on school bus. (http://www.2news.tv/news/local/34274374.html)

Under the terms of the Bush Doctrine I perceive that as a threat and believe our nation has no choice other than to attack Idaho.

SEND THOSE CHILDREN TO GITMO!

Furtherman

11-13-2008, 07:14 AM

I recently went out to PA to Cabellas. Yes it is happening. People are buying guns because they are afraid of restrictions that will be put in place.

Whether you agree with them or not, some people, a lot more than you think, are thinking like that.

Ahhh Keithy, our little ditto-head in training.

Listen to Missy, she's right. A small percentage of dummies are acting like their country is crumbling. Now they'll just be deeper in debt when their bills come in next month. I wonder who they will blame then?

Zorro

11-13-2008, 10:20 AM

Ahhh Keithy, our little ditto-head in training.

Listen to Missy, she's right. A small percentage of dummies are acting like their country is crumbling. Now they'll just be deeper in debt when their bills come in next month. I wonder who they will blame then?

The country is crumbling. Pretty sure that's why Obama won.

scottinnj

11-13-2008, 05:39 PM

lol, at least we can both agree to disagree with Lord Jezo :)

I don't compare Gitmo with Nazi Death Camps. However, I don't take the situation lightly either. Your previous post almost hinted as if we were doing the detainees a favor, saying they lived better than our troops. I don't think any of us would ever want to be in an innocent Gitmo detainees position (I AM NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT SAYING THAT ALL OF THEM ARE INNOCENT, that's why I made the distinction).

Yeah, you're right, I was a bit condescending in that argument. I was making a different point, but my point got mixed up in my tirade.

Hopefully, this debacle Bush started will be settled under the Obama administration. I'm all for detaining POWs, but the Supreme Court was right in saying that an indefinite detention goes against our country's standards of forwarding human rights.
I'd like to see trials go on and vet out the innocent so they can be returned to their countries, and the guilty serve out the sentences they deserve.

keithy_19

11-13-2008, 06:46 PM

Ahhh Keithy, our little ditto-head in training.

I was just saying that there were a lot more people like that than I thought. I personally don't agree with this kind of thinking.

foodcourtdruide

11-13-2008, 06:48 PM

Yeah, you're right, I was a bit condescending in that argument. I was making a different point, but my point got mixed up in my tirade.

Hopefully, this debacle Bush started will be settled under the Obama administration. I'm all for detaining POWs, but the Supreme Court was right in saying that an indefinite detention goes against our country's standards of forwarding human rights.
I'd like to see trials go on and vet out the innocent so they can be returned to their countries, and the guilty serve out the sentences they deserve.

Agreed!

Jujubees2

11-14-2008, 05:21 AM

Even the clergy are crazy about an Obama presidency!

Priest: No communion for Obama supporters (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705755/)

TheMojoPin

11-14-2008, 08:58 AM

Bush trying to keep it real:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11/images/20081112_d-0077-5-515h.jpg

That shit is straight BALLIN', son. WEST SIDE IS THE BEST SIDE.

Dougie Brootal

11-14-2008, 09:42 AM

Bush trying to keep it real:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11/images/20081112_d-0077-5-515h.jpg

That shit is straight BALLIN', son. WEST SIDE IS THE BEST SIDE.

thats the East Side sign.

TheMojoPin

11-14-2008, 09:48 AM

thats the East Side sign.

Is it? I thought that was the one where you make a curved "E" with your thumb, pointer and middle finger.

Dougie Brootal

11-14-2008, 09:51 AM

Is it? I thought that was the one where you make a curved "E" with your thumb, pointer and middle finger.

thats one of them.

this is west side...http://funkysouls.com/img/2pac_aeem2.jpg

mikeyboy

11-14-2008, 09:52 AM

What's the ronfez.net gang sign?

TheMojoPin

11-14-2008, 09:53 AM

I thought that's what they were doing, but upon another look you are correct. Stupid tiny photo. What they're actually flashing is "the Shocker."

TheMojoPin

11-14-2008, 09:53 AM

What's the ronfez.net gang sign?

A thumb up the ass.

IMSlacker

11-14-2008, 09:54 AM

What's the ronfez.net gang sign?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/Fingerboy.jpg

Dougie Brootal

11-14-2008, 09:56 AM

What's the ronfez.net gang sign?

http://static.flickr.com/68/167329669_02a69c91bf.jpg

Zorro

11-14-2008, 09:56 AM

What's the ronfez.net gang sign?

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/space_hippies21.jpg

Dougie Brootal

11-14-2008, 10:06 AM

I thought that's what they were doing, but upon another look you are correct. Stupid tiny photo. What they're actually flashing is "the Shocker."

could be.

epo

11-14-2008, 04:45 PM

It's the most interesting rumor of the day: (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/14/clinton-met-with-obama-ab_n_143810.html)

President-elect Barack Obama offered Sen. Hillary Clinton the position of Secretary of State during their meeting Thursday in Chicago, according to two senior Democratic officials. She requested time to consider the offer, the officials said.

My first thought is NO...but then I think about it rationally and it makes a ton of sense. She has an international name and as a woman wouldn't be afraid to be Obama's international pitbull. The other thing is if she turns it down, then she loses all rights to bitch as he offered her arguably the best job in the world.

Plus it completely fits into his "Team of Rivals" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/14/clinton-met-with-obama-ab_n_143810.html) view of running the US Government.

IMSlacker

11-14-2008, 04:49 PM

SonOfSmeagol disagrees with you.

IMSlacker

11-14-2008, 05:01 PM

Maybe this is a little bit out there, but I think HRG would be perfect for SoS.

http://blog.meevee.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/19/hrg.jpg

SonOfSmeagol

11-14-2008, 05:33 PM

Cool!! Give him a fan belt to bite on and tell him to turn around!!

foodcourtdruide

11-14-2008, 06:12 PM

It's the most interesting rumor of the day: (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/14/clinton-met-with-obama-ab_n_143810.html)

My first thought is NO...but then I think about it rationally and it makes a ton of sense. She has an international name and as a woman wouldn't be afraid to be Obama's international pitbull. The other thing is if she turns it down, then she loses all rights to bitch as he offered her arguably the best job in the world.

Plus it completely fits into his "Team of Rivals" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/14/clinton-met-with-obama-ab_n_143810.html) view of running the US Government.

I'd be shocked if she didn't take the job. I don't know what more lucrative job she could have been offerred.

scottinnj

11-14-2008, 07:55 PM

What's the ronfez.net gang sign?

Blog it-East Coast to the Most-Bitches!

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/vox/media/blog_gang_sign.jpg

TooLowBrow

11-14-2008, 08:06 PM

I'd be shocked if she didn't take the job. I don't know what more lucrative job she could have been offerred.

plus it sets her up to take over when he's done

scottinnj

11-14-2008, 08:47 PM

'bout sums it up for me.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/LincolnHappy.jpg

LordJezo

11-15-2008, 04:22 AM

Add on Drudge this morning:

http://www.mercuras.com/1108/obamadrudge1.jpg (http://www.grassfire.org/petition.asp?pid=18773688)

Scary.

yojimbo7248

11-15-2008, 04:52 AM

Add on Drudge this morning:

http://www.mercuras.com/1108/obamadrudge1.jpg (http://www.grassfire.org/petition.asp?pid=18773688)

Scary.

The O&A show will be the voice for the resistance. I expect to hear more Nick DiPaolo, whatever hack writer they can find arguing that slavery really wasn't that bad, and editorials by Anthony about how uppity negroes have become. I also expect to get updates on the latest neo-Nazi websites and how we can join the Aryan brotherhood.

LordJezo

11-15-2008, 05:52 AM

I should have typed in "ad" not "add" but I cannot edit my post so I must stand with my shame.

TheMojoPin

11-15-2008, 05:55 AM

What's scary? The ridiculous paranoia? If that's what you're saying, I agree, since the need for a "resisitence" is based almost totally on fantasy at this point.

You do realize that you keep posting what amounts to random delusions as "proof" of why we should fear Obama, right?

yojimbo7248

11-15-2008, 06:07 AM

TheMojoPin

11-15-2008, 06:10 AM

I completely misread Lord Jezo's post. I was assuming he meant the ridiculous paranoia is scary.

Maybe...but probably not.

scottinnj

11-15-2008, 09:59 AM

Add on Drudge this morning:

http://www.mercuras.com/1108/obamadrudge1.jpg (http://www.grassfire.org/petition.asp?pid=18773688)

Scary.

VIVA LE RESISTANCE!!!http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/FrenchResistance.jpg

DonInNC

11-15-2008, 10:18 AM

Add on Drudge this morning:

Scary.

Why do they hate America?

scottinnj

11-15-2008, 10:46 AM

Add on Drudge this morning:

http://www.mercuras.com/1108/obamadrudge1.jpg (http://www.grassfire.org/petition.asp?pid=18773688)

Scary.

Well, I don't think the battlecry is being heard:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/1115081440.jpg

They want a million signatures by January 20th, and so far only have 127,000

K.C.

11-15-2008, 10:57 AM

Why do they hate America?

for our freedom.

http://msa4.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/_george-bush-flag.jpg

K.C.

11-15-2008, 11:04 AM

It is pretty clear to me that Obama is a tax-spend, bleeding heart, San Francisco values, pals around with terrorists, secret Muslim, socialist propaganda spreading, kind of looks like Osama, freedom hating, gun stealing, unamerican, pinko leftist, liberal.

We'll all be having gay sex for the pleasure of our new masters from Hamas by sundown.

*whew*

Glad I finally got to say what I really think.