The Immigration Issue

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hell, anything you can do to mix up that gene pool I'm all for. If ever there should be a pro-immigrant state (illegal or legal), this should be the one.

Throw in Vermont too, thats one vanilla ass state

[spoon]

Throw in Vermont too, thats one vanilla ass state

Do they fuck their cousins and hate anyone but their own? Actually, I've heard they are quite dicky to outsiders up there to be honest. Yah, I say let the Canadian influx flow! Oh wait, why the fuck would they want to come here?!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Do they fuck their cousins and hate anyone but their own? Actually, I've heard they are quite dicky to outsiders up there to be honest. Yah, I say let the Canadian influx flow! Oh wait, why the fuck would they want to come here?!

We have more hockey teams.

[spoon]

We have more hockey teams.

Bt Winny getting it's team back and the Yotes close to moving north as well, I think they're getting it back together. We have more people too.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Where does he think hes is Mexico?

Its there that high ranking law enforcement officials are given death threats and in many cased killed


http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/mcso-deputies-arrest-man-for-threatening-to-kill-arpaio-08042011

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Stupid comment by SF Giants announcer

http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2011-08-08/ramon-ramirez-tony-bruno-radio-host-gaffe-brings-out-latino-voices

[Recyclerz]

Guy who saves 6 year old girl from kidnapping says he's an illegal immigrant. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/20/2011-08-20_hero_who_saved_6yearold_girl_antonio_diaz_chaco n_says_hes_an_illegal_immigrant.html)


Hmmm, WWWFD?

:popcorn:

[Dude!]

Guy who saves 6 year old girl from kidnapping says he's an illegal immigrant. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/20/2011-08-20_hero_who_saved_6yearold_girl_antonio_diaz_chaco n_says_hes_an_illegal_immigrant.html)


Hmmm, WWWFD?

:popcorn:

um, the kidnapper was
an illegal immigrant too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Guy who saves 6 year old girl from kidnapping says he's an illegal immigrant. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/20/2011-08-20_hero_who_saved_6yearold_girl_antonio_diaz_chaco n_says_hes_an_illegal_immigrant.html)


Hmmm, WWWFD?

:popcorn:

Obama is about to give him Amnesty

[sailor]

Obama is about to give him Amnesty

Rightfully so.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

One anecdotal story doesn't outweigh the thousands of rape child molesting drunk driving murders and other crimes that have been committed by people who aren't supposed to be here

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama arrested for DUI



http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/aug/28/picket-obamas-illegal-uncle-arrested-uncle-omar-hi/

[A.J.]

Obama arrested for DUI



http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/aug/28/picket-obamas-illegal-uncle-arrested-uncle-omar-hi/

Please clarify. We don't want any more weeping mothers.

[disneyspy]

snacks,call your mom!

damn you AJ!

[Snacks]

Obama arrested for DUI



http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/aug/28/picket-obamas-illegal-uncle-arrested-uncle-omar-hi/

Please clarify. We don't want any more weeping mothers.

snacks,call your mom!

damn you AJ!

Now Im pissed, why make me call my mom again! Fuckers!!!!!






































All right maybe we are jumping the shark now with this?!!!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wanna bet that Onyango gets to stay just like the freeloading Aunt

Fucking parasite


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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Uncle Onyango. Ill just call my nephew, he'll give me amnesty


http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/29023855/detail.html

[A.J.]

It's like Billy Carter all over again.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Onyango Beer just doesnt sound right

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wonder if Barack said the cop was acting stupidly

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Race calls off Boycotts

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/09/10/national/a115102D08.DTL&tsp=1

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When you keep importing poverty well......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/hispanic-kids-the-largest-group-of-children-living-in-poverty/2011/09/28/gIQArfC54K_story.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No wonder NY is broke. Dumbasses like Cuomo encourage people NOT to learn english and allows illegals to come to the sanctuary state.

http://www.lohud.com/article/20111006/NEWS05/110060420/Cuomo-State-translate-forms-into-more-languages-assist-immigrants?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Frontpage|s

[epo]

Wait...I thought immigration laws were only supposed to catch brown people!

Alabama Considers Revision of Immigration Law Ensnaring Mercedes Executive (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-23/alabama-considers-revision-of-immigration-law-ensnaring-mercedes-executive.html)

On Nov. 16, a European businessman paying a visit to his company’s manufacturing plant near Tuscaloosa, Alabama, was pulled over for driving a rental car without a tag.

The police officer asked the man for his license, but the only paperwork he had with him was a German I.D. card. Anywhere else in the nation, the cop might have issued the man a citation. Not in Alabama, where a strict new law requires police to look into the immigration status of people detained for routine traffic violations. Because the man couldn’t prove he had the right to be in the U.S., he was arrested and hauled off to the police station.

The businessman turned out to be an executive with Mercedes-Benz, one of Alabama’s prized manufacturers, Bloomberg Businessweek reports in its Nov. 28 issue. The Mercedes plant employs 3,400 people, and the company’s much-heralded decision in 1993 to build cars in the state encouraged Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota to follow.

Oops! Sorry Alabama, thanks for your shitty attempt at racism!

[Snacks]

Wait...I thought immigration laws were only supposed to catch brown people!

Alabama Considers Revision of Immigration Law Ensnaring Mercedes Executive (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-23/alabama-considers-revision-of-immigration-law-ensnaring-mercedes-executive.html)



Oops! Sorry Alabama, thanks for your shitty attempt at racism!

If anything they proved that law not to be racist. The fact that they pulled over and arrested a rich white German shows the law has nothing to do with color or geared towards a certain group of people but that they are targeting people here illegally and those without proper documentation.

I love how people call these laws racist when lots of countries have similar laws and rules. People are using racism because its lazy and so easy to do. The fact is we have a huge illegal immigration problem in this country just because the majority of illegals are from Mexico doesnt make these laws racist.

Now if they change the law because some rich German was arrested then thats fucked up! But then again thats more about them being scared of losing business rather then color of his skin because they did arrests him before knowing who he was and thats what the law was there for in the first place.

[epo]

If anything they proved that law not to be racist. The fact that they pulled over and arrested a rich white German shows the law has nothing to do with color or geared towards a certain group of people but that they are targeting people here illegally and those without proper documentation.

I love how people call these laws racist when lots of countries have similar laws and rules. People are using racism because its lazy and so easy to do. The fact is we have a huge illegal immigration problem in this country just because the majority of illegals are from Mexico doesnt make these laws racist.

Now if they change the law because some rich German was arrested then thats fucked up! But then again thats more about them being scared of losing business rather then color of his skin because they did arrests him before knowing who he was and thats what the law was there for in the first place.

You and I both know two things:

1. Alabama passed that law because of racism.
2. Alabama is going to change that law because some rich German was arrested.

[spoon]

You and I both know two things:

1. Alabama passed that law because of racism.
2. Alabama is going to change that law because some rich German was arrested.

this

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Alabama wasn't doing anything outside the realm of the feds.

Federal immigration laws requires immigrants, greencard holders, people that are not citizens to carry their documents with them.


The Mercedes exec was able to prove that he was here legally. I highly doubt Mercedes is going to shut down an entire operation leaving tens of thousands unemployed. the law is working.


Illegal aliens arent a race, just because the majority of them are from Mexico the open borders lobby snd special interests use that term for their convenience. Come to NY there are thousands of Russian and Irish illegals .

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What the fuck? 4 DWI's and hes not kicked out yet


http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/illegal-alien-charged-with-4th-dui

[spoon]

According to the police report, Hernandez admitted to purchasing the phony license in Milwaukee for $200, as well as being in the country illegally.




Figures it happened in dirty Epoland! My favorite amusement park I might add!

:innocent:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He could move to Texas and Rick Perry will allow him to go to college at a reduced rate

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Will Sowell a black man be labeled as racist now?


He nails it right here

Let's go back to square one. The purpose of American immigration laws and policies is not to be either humane or inhumane to illegal immigrants. The purpose of immigration laws and policies is to serve the national interest of this country.



http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47799#disqus_thread

[cougarjake13]

Will Sowell a black man be labeled as racist now?


He nails it right here

Let's go back to square one. The purpose of American immigration laws and policies is not to be either humane or inhumane to illegal immigrants. The purpose of immigration laws and policies is to serve the national interest of this country.



http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47799#disqus_thread



sounds logical

[Bob Impact]

Will Sowell a black man be labeled as racist now?


He nails it right here

Let's go back to square one. The purpose of American immigration laws and policies is not to be either humane or inhumane to illegal immigrants. The purpose of immigration laws and policies is to serve the national interest of this country.



http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47799#disqus_thread

You do realize that racist does not imply white right?

[hanso]

Alabama wasn't doing anything outside the realm of the feds.

Federal immigration laws requires immigrants, greencard holders, people that are not citizens to carry their documents with them.


The Mercedes exec was able to prove that he was here legally. I highly doubt Mercedes is going to shut down an entire operation leaving tens of thousands unemployed. the law is working.


Illegal aliens arent a race, just because the majority of them are from Mexico the open borders lobby snd special interests use that term for their convenience. Come to NY there are thousands of Russian and Irish illegals .

If that is the case then why make a state law citing the same?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If that is the case then why make a state law citing the same?

Maybe because Alabama is sick of spending its money on babysitting illegals and their extended families and as a result of the law have them self deport.

[hanso]

Maybe because Alabama is sick of spending its money on babysitting illegals and their extended families and as a result of the law have them self deport.

Self deport? We already went over this more have been deported in 2 yrs now then 8 yrs of the last term. I would hardly call that self deporting. No this is more on the lines of waste fraud and abuse in draconian measures that are unconstitutional.


Looky what happened again billy bob.

Alabama arrests another foreign car executive under new immigration law

'When the state of Alabama arrested a German director of the Mercedes-Benz factory in Tuscaloosa for failing to carry his driver’s license, it seemed to be a fluke, an amusing but statistically unlikely outcome of that state’s harsh new immigration law.'

'The Guardian reports that Honda manager Ichiro Yada was arrested earlier this week at a checkpoint in Leeds, Alabama, despite being able to show police his passport, US work permit, and international driver’s license.'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/02/alabama-arrests-another-foreign-car-executive-under-new-immigration-law/

Well the guy must have looked closer to the height and maybe the eyes of a Mex.

[spoon]

that's no way to treat "job creators"!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Self deport? We already went over this more have been deported in 2 yrs now then 8 yrs of the last term. I would hardly call that self deporting. No this is more on the lines of waste fraud and abuse in draconian measures that are unconstitutional.


Looky what happened again billy bob.

Alabama arrests another foreign car executive under new immigration law

'When the state of Alabama arrested a German director of the Mercedes-Benz factory in Tuscaloosa for failing to carry his driver’s license, it seemed to be a fluke, an amusing but statistically unlikely outcome of that state’s harsh new immigration law.'

'The Guardian reports that Honda manager Ichiro Yada was arrested earlier this week at a checkpoint in Leeds, Alabama, despite being able to show police his passport, US work permit, and international driver’s license.'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/02/alabama-arrests-another-foreign-car-executive-under-new-immigration-law/

Well the guy must have looked closer to the height and maybe the eyes of a Mex.

Japanese have different skin color than Mexis

That cop who arrested him is a fucking dope.

Theres nothing unconstitutional about cracking down on illegal aliens. Onto this administration, when it halts deportation and issues work visas without consulting congress thats amnesty. But then again he started a war without consent from congress

You could deport all the people you want but if those magnets are still there, its still going to be a revolving conga line at the border.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Saw this on a comment post from an article

Very true, on how illegals come here for the welfare, entitlements and birthright citizenship of their anchor babies, all need to stop. Take the bird feeder down, they wont come

I come for visit, get treated regal,
So I stay, who care I illegal?
I cross border, poor and broke,
Take bus, see employment folk.
Nice man treat me good in there,
Say I need to see welfare.
Welfare say, "You come no more,
We send cash right to your door."
Welfare checks, they make you
wealthy,

Medicaid it keep you healthy!
By and by, I got plenty money,
Thanks to you, American dummy.
Write to friends in motherland,
Tell them come as fast as you can.
They come in rags and Chebby
trucks,

I buy big house with untaxed bucks.
They come here, we live together,
More welfare checks, it gets better!
Fourteen families they moving in,
But neighbor's patience wearing thin.
Finally, gringo moves away,
Now I buy his house, and then I say,
"Find more aliens for house to rent."

And in the yard I put a tent.
Send for family (they just trash),
But they, too, draw the welfare cash!
Everything is mucho good,
And soon we own the neighborhood.
We have hobby--it's called breeding,
Welfare pay for baby feeding.
Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?
We get free! We got no bills!

American crazy! He pay all year,
To keep welfare running here.
We think America darn good place!
Too darn good for the white man
race.

If they no like us, they can go,
Got lots of room in Mexico

[spoon]

nice to see Dude! can rhyme


:wallbash:

[Dude!]

nice to see Dude! can rhyme


:wallbash:

you've posted my name
about 5 times in the last week

why oh why are you
so infatuated?

[spoon]

i doubt the very notion you can even count, much less keep track of anything

[epo]

Figures it happened in dirty Epoland! My favorite amusement park I might add!

:innocent:

That's awesome. I hope Milwaukee can become the gateway to false papers for the entire Latin nation!

[epo]

that's no way to treat "job creators"!

Obviously the Alabama GOP cares more about pandering to the xenophobic rubes than they do about creating jobs.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That's awesome. I hope Milwaukee can become the gateway to false papers for the entire Latin nation!


LA beat you to it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obviously the Alabama GOP cares more about pandering to the xenophobic rubes than they do about creating jobs.



How fucking idiotic
Yea Mercedes Benz and Honda are gonna close up shop tomorrow

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those job creators you people ridicule employ tens of thousands of legal Alabamans all of them pay taxes. Those farmers rely on cheap labor and good that they are going belly up

[spoon]

How fucking idiotic
Yea Mercedes Benz and Honda are gonna close up shop tomorrow

well i bet they'll surely attract more plants /biz very soon to that shit hole state

perhaps other countries would like a case study in idiocy and creationism

if so, work in those plants but have 4 copies of all your papers in every pocket asshole!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sporadic one off cases will deter companies from going to Alabama? Intice them with tax incentives and they'll flock to the south Speaking of shit hole states you won't see auto plants popping up in NY or CA

[WRESTLINGFAN]

well i bet they'll surely attract more plants /biz very soon to that shit hole state

perhaps other countries would like a case study in idiocy and creationism

if so, work in those plants but have 4 copies of all your papers in every pocket asshole!


And you accuse me of not being on topic. What the fuck does creationism have to do with illegal aliens

[spoon]

And you accuse me of not being on topic. What the fuck does creationism have to do with illegal aliens

there's a HUGE difference bt arguing a point in a completely different argument versus making a joke about a shitty state trapped in the past...otherwise known as completely backward

[spoon]

Sporadic one off cases will deter companies from going to Alabama? Intice them with tax incentives and they'll flock to the south Speaking of shit hole states you won't see auto plants popping up in NY or CA

right, bc those places actually have environmental laws that are enforced and aren't willing to have their workers make as close to as possible 3rd world wages. they have actual illegals for that dummy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Trapped in the past? Blacks aren't being hung from trees. And don't compare foreigners who knowingly came here illegally to American citizens who faced the wrath of firehoses and cross burnings

[WRESTLINGFAN]

right, bc those places actually have environmental laws that are enforced and aren't willing to have their workers make as close to as possible 3rd world wages. they have actual illegals for that dummy



Working in a Mercedes or Honda plant is slave wages? What's next? They are employing child labor? Alot of those plants meet EPA standards. There's a Toyota plant I think in Mississippi which produces zero emissions

[spoon]

Trapped in the past? Blacks aren't being hung from trees. And don't compare foreigners who knowingly came here illegally to American citizens who faced the wrath of firehoses and cross burnings

AHAHAhahahaahahah!

See, that's just fucking hilarious shit right there. No explanation needed for those paying attention. And don't worry wf, I won't make those comparisons just for you.

:lol:

[spoon]

Working in a Mercedes or Honda plant is slave wages? What's next? They are employing child labor? Alot of those plants meet EPA standards. There's a Toyota plant I think in Mississippi which produces zero emissions

You're right, it must be that huge population of skilled labor that attracted them...hence all the transplants from other countries and states. I guess it might clean up those shit holes a little.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You're right, it must be that huge population of skilled labor that attracted them...hence all the transplants from other countries and states. I guess it might clean up those shit holes a little.





Other countries ? Yup all those peasants from Oaxaca were flooding Alabama to slap parts together on Accords and S Classes

[spoon]

Other countries ? Yup all those peasants from Oaxaca were flooding Alabama to slap parts together on Accords and S Classes

no more like all those people getting arrested for not having 15 copies of their papers

can you follow along at all? oh yah, I must have mentioned Oaxaca 50 times already, my fault!

:wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no more like all those people getting arrested for not having 15 copies of their papers

can you follow along at all? oh yah, I must have mentioned Oaxaca 50 times already, my fault!

:wallbash:

Again federal law requires all resident aliens green card holders to carry their documents.


I don't have the reference on hand but I believe it's US Code section 8 section 1324 and 1325

[spoon]

no no, let's keep our focus where I put this conversation and where it should be, Oaxaca peasants

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no no, let's keep our focus where I put this conversation and where it should be, Oaxaca peasants

You said other countries.


People from Oaxaca are from well another country. They arent working in Mercedes plants


In regards to legal immigrants who come via H1-b visas many are from the Philippines who go into medical care , Indians go to silicon valley. People working in an auto plant working the lines arent from out of the country

[spoon]

yes wf, other countries in the context of our fucking conversation regarding the plants in Alabama and those recently arrested. So u decided to go a completely other route, and validate it bc I clearly said other countries. Perhaps next time I'll go completely specific with Germany and Japan so you don't get everything confused with Mexicans as you do so effectively. It's fucking unreal how limited you are in following a conversation, but here's where you dig deeper into Indian and Filipino immigration bc it's so relevant.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

OK Lets focus on Alabama and the law. I highly doubt foreign companies will say fuck that, We arent going to build a plant there because of 2 isolated incidents.


The one with the Japanese worker was a fuckup by the cop and as a result police are getting proper training.

Its not a law just to hunt down Mexicans.


The law is doing what its intended to do. Drive out illegal aliens. Car companies are going to stay

[StanUpshaw]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

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https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/december-1-2011/study-says-gingrich-amnesty-bigger-86-blanket-amnesty-seems-reject-at

[StanUpshaw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

[epo]

Trapped in the past? Blacks aren't being hung from trees. And don't compare foreigners who knowingly came here illegally to American citizens who faced the wrath of firehoses and cross burnings

I don't even know the topic of your latest insipid argument, but this is an ignorant statement in any context.

[epo]

Working in a Mercedes or Honda plant is slave wages? What's next? They are employing child labor? Alot of those plants meet EPA standards. There's a Toyota plant I think in Mississippi which produces zero emissions

Logical fallacy much?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Logical fallacy much?

Nope
http://www.hmmausa.com/?page_id=107

[epo]

Nope
http://www.hmmausa.com/?page_id=107

Do you even know what a logical fallacy is?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Do you even know what a logical fallacy is?

Si senor

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I thought the administration said that states can't make their own laws. Will there be lawsuits against CA? Of course not.

This law violates article 1 of the constitution. Move on nothing to see here


http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/california-lawmaker-wants-to-add-to-the-patchwork-of-immigration-laws

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Kagan to recuse herself when Arizonas illegal alien law goes before SCOTUS


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/198749-kagan-to-recuse-herself-from-arizona-immigration-challenge

[disneyspy]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

New Haven Mayor wants illegals to vote. How about we have them elected to office too.



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/12/14/new-haven-mayor-wants-illegals-to-vote-in-local-elections/

[A.J.]

Aside from missing the food, I am so glad I don't live up there anymore.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The whole state is gone crazy from Gov Malloy to the fake Vietnam vet Dick Blumenthal on down

[A.J.]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Crazy thing is that many people leave NY for CT due to lower property taxes in CT

[Bob Impact]

The whole state is gone crazy from Gov Malloy to the fake Vietnam vet Dick Blumenthal on down

Meh, come live in the woods near me and you'll have a different view. 90% of this town is privately operated, and operated very well at that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Meh, come live in the woods near me and you'll have a different view. 90% of this town is privately operated, and operated very well at that.

you still have to support the deadbeats in New Haven, Hartford ,and Bridgeport thru the state income taxes.

[A.J.]

you still have to support the deadbeats in New Haven, Hartford ,and Bridgeport thru the state income taxes.

Don't forget Meriden and Waterbury.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Scumbag Holder issues a new lawsuit.

Meanwhile they didn't give a shit about the Border agents civil rights when weapons they sold to drug cartels ended up killing him

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/15/9471960-arizona-sheriff-violates-civil-rights-of-latinos-justice-department-says

[spoon]

see wf, this is completely blind and where your bias comes in full force

almost everyone on both sides here sees the problem with Fast and Furious yet you don't see any issue with this guy...and THIS makes Holder a scumbag?

unreal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

see wf, this is completely blind and where your bias comes in full force

almost everyone on both sides here sees the problem with Fast and Furious yet you don't see any issue with this guy...and THIS makes Holder a scumbag?

unreal

Wanna talk biasness> How about Holder suing states for enforcing the laws and not suing cities like NYC SF Chicago and other sanctuary cities?


Holder is a scumbag, He wont resign, he lied before congress and more people are going to die due to F&F

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The highest law enforcement officer in the country admits he didnt read the bill. Now this is something that a staffer would not have to read it was only a few pages


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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hey illegals, drive drunk do what you want as long as theres no prior conviction. LAPD wont impound your cars.





http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lapd-impounds-20111214,0,5430290.story

[spoon]

good thing they're all here reading this no doubt

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No surprise, He's an Obama nominee


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/22/judge-strikes-key-provisions-south-carolina-immigration-law/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Every once in a while Mitt gets something right


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/200959-romney-says-obamas-uncle-should-be-deported

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This fucking administration never ceases to amaze


I wonder if his Aunt and Uncle have this on speed dial.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70943.html#comments

[furie]

In the wake of the recent memo from the Obama administration which announced “prosecutorial discretion” in dealing with illegal aliens, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents across the country have been speaking out what many of them are calling a “backdoor amnesty.”

On Wednesday, ICE Union president Chris Crane told PRNewswire: “Any American concerned about immigration needs to brace themselves for what's coming. This is just one of many new ICE policies in queue aimed at stopping the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws in the United States. Unable to pass its immigration agenda through legislation, the Administration is now implementing it through agency policy.” (http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/ice-agents-warn-americans-to-brace-themselves-for-what-s-coming?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

California is the place you oughta be, If youre living in the US illegally.



http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/dream-act-san-diego-2012-136780388.html


Since when did hospitals become homeless shelters?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/10444-illegal-alien-patients-check-in-but-they-dont-check-out


Stealth amnesty by the Administration

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57353623/new-immigration-rule-to-help-citizen-relatives/


Arrested illegals being allowed to roam the streets


http://www.koat.com/r/30137022/detail.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow, Uncle Onyango is really desperate


http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1487077

[spoon]

Jesus fucking Tebow!

[Crispy123]

Jesus fucking Tebow!

Haha, that's good! You were waiting all day to post this, wern'tcha???

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jesus fucking Tebow!



That was sort of my reaction to Obamas drunk uncle trying to make his case

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Obama pushing for Amnesty again


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/202983-liberals-cheer-proposed-white-house-immigration-reform


"The President deserves credit for setting in place another essential building block through administrative action — moving us closer to a common sense immigration policy — that puts America, its families and its economy first," Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.), vice chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, said Friday in a statement.




How the fuck does it put America 1st when illegals are being rewarded? These fucking hack politicians never cease to amaze. This will die in the house thankfully.


Obama wants to act unilaterally however Mr Constitution doesnt know that Congress has powers for naturalization.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Talking about enforcement doesn't alienate the hispanics.


http://www.examiner.com/immigration-in-san-francisco/talking-about-immigration-enforcement-does-not-alienate-the-hispanic-vote

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There are so many wrong things about this story.

1st of all no one is turned away regardless of immigration status or ability to pay. Federal law requires hospitals to treat anyone. Also the problem of illegal immigration in the fact that in many areas of CA illegals are living in converted garages which are unsafe.


http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/02/lorna_valle_denied_professiona.php

[underdog]

Man, maybe WF should move to Greece. These people sound just like him.

When asked what his first action in parliament would be, Mihaloliakos said: 'All the illegal immigration out! Out of my country, out of my home!'
Asked how he planned to carry that out, he angrily said: 'Use your imagination'.

Rise of the Greek neo-Nazis (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140686/Greek-elections-2012-Neo-Nazi-party-Golden-Dawn-want-force-immigrants-work-camps.html)

[brettmojo]

Man, maybe WF should move to Greece. These people sound just like him.



Rise of the Greek neo-Nazis (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140686/Greek-elections-2012-Neo-Nazi-party-Golden-Dawn-want-force-immigrants-work-camps.html)
How do you say Sieg Heil! in Greek?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Man, maybe WF should move to Greece. These people sound just like him.



Rise of the Greek neo-Nazis (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140686/Greek-elections-2012-Neo-Nazi-party-Golden-Dawn-want-force-immigrants-work-camps.html)

I can't even comment on such idiocy by you

[underdog]

I can't even comment on such idiocy by you

This sounds just like you : Mihaloliakos said: 'All the illegal immigration out! Out of my country, out of my home!'

[Jujubees2]

There are so many wrong things about this story.

1st of all no one is turned away regardless of immigration status or ability to pay. Federal law requires hospitals to treat anyone. Also the problem of illegal immigration in the fact that in many areas of CA illegals are living in converted garages which are unsafe.


http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/02/lorna_valle_denied_professiona.php

This great country of ours was founded by illegals. Well, you can do whatever you want to me, but I'm not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

(I was Premed in college)

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/movieman/files/2009/02/otter.gif

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This sounds just like you : Mihaloliakos said: 'All the illegal immigration out! Out of my country, out of my home!'



Nope


He wants to hunt down people and have them put in work camps. He sounds more like FDR

[underdog]

Nope


He wants to hunt down people and have them put in work camps. He sounds more like FDR

When I read that he wanted to put landmines on the border, I immediately thought I was reading one of your posts.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

When I read that he wanted to put landmines on the border, I immediately thought I was reading one of your posts.



Killing the entitlements and goodies is the same as landmines?



Nice stretch Armstrong

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Turns out you dont have to be a multibillion dollar multinational coporation to bilk the treasury out of billions.


But but but Illegal aliens pay taxes.


http://www.wthr.com/story/17798210/tax-loophole-costs-billions

Not bad for sneaking in and committing Identity theft

The accountants are also committing fraud as its illegal to claim dependants in foreign countries

If an American citizens forms cant be reconciled, the threat of a gun and imprisonment comes down from the IRS

[hanso]

Dinosaur that entered U.S. illegally faces deportation

Time reported that a staff paleontologist at the New York Museum of Natural History spotted the fraud when he saw an entry about the T. bataar skeleton in an auction catalog. The skeleton was found in the Gobi Desert in the 1940s and is remarkably well preserved, still possessing 80 percent of its original claws and 75 percent of its original teeth. Moreover, the bones all belonged to one animal, whereas even some of the most famous dinosaur skeletons in the world, like the T. Rex at New York’s Museum of Natural History are made from the bones of multiple animals.

Suspicious at that the sale of such a high-quality specimen, the paleontologist contacted the office of Manhattan U.S. attorney Preet Bharara. Bharara ordered that the skeleton be returned to the Mongolian government, which considers all dinosaur fossils found in that country to be the property of its government.







http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/21/dinosaur-entered-u-s-illegally-faces-deportation/

[Syd]

Brewer's fascist fun time comes to a screeching halt today. People with funny last names or those who fail the paper bag test don't have to worry about carrying their papers now.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Enjoy the country in 50 years when its a catholic theocracy

[Furtherman]

Enjoy the country in 50 years when its a catholic theocracy

Protestant.

[StanUpshaw]

Protestant.

http://i.imgur.com/7YQ2n.jpg

[Furtherman]

WF jokes? Derp indeed.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im not going to get riled up anymore over this.. I wave the white flag.


When the country is mostly Hispanic, we'll see how gay rights, abortion and other issues like that are handled. Cause ya know they are really tolerant of that :nono:. Say goodbye to no prayer in public school as there will be statues of the Virgin Mary everywhere


On another note, Whites may be eligible for affirmative action.

[Dude!]

Im not going to get riled up anymore over this.. I wave the white flag.


When the country is mostly Hispanic, we'll see how gay rights, abortion and other issues like that are handled. Cause ya know they are really tolerant of that :nono:. Say goodbye to no prayer in public school as there will be statues of the Virgin Mary everywhere


On another note, Whites may be eligible for affirmative action.

make lemons out of lemonade--
load up on household staff

[Syd]

Just because the brown menace is riding a wave of con queso north doesn't mean you have to clamp down and become a police state.

Also I am pretty sure most of those things were said about the Irish once, yet I'm not in a catholic theocracy and we haven't institutionalized domestic abuse or alcoholism.

[sailor]

I wave the white flag.

Racist.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Racist.

La bandera blanca, might as well put my Espanol to use

[Furtherman]

Im not going to get riled up anymore over this.. I wave the white flag.


When the country is mostly Hispanic, we'll see how gay rights, abortion and other issues like that are handled. Cause ya know they are really tolerant of that :nono:. Say goodbye to no prayer in public school as there will be statues of the Virgin Mary everywhere


On another note, Whites may be eligible for affirmative action.

Thanks Glenn Beck. I hope your bunker is air conditioned.

[Jujubees2]

Enjoy the country in 50 years when its a catholic theocracy

and Jerry Sandusky is out of prison...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thanks Glenn Beck. I hope your bunker is air conditioned.

How many gay Mexicans and Guatemalans were at the parade yesterday?

[Furtherman]

How many gay Mexicans and Guatemalans were at the parade yesterday?

SHHHHHH. Down low, yo.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The main reason why prop 8 was voted down by the electorate was due to a very large Hispanic population in CA


Even though as a voting bloc they vote for the Democrats, on social issues they disagree with Gay marriage and abortion

[Furtherman]

That was not the main reason.

But I admire your optimism for the worst senario possible to happen.

[StanUpshaw]

Democracy is mob rule.

[SonOfSmeagol]

Brewer's fascist fun time comes to a screeching halt today. People with funny last names or those who fail the paper bag test don't have to worry about carrying their papers now.

actually, I think that's the one area that was more or less upheld - because immigration status can be questioned, with the Court basically saying "tread carefully!"

[Syd]

They can ask for the papers, but there's no consequences whatsoever. They can't toss you off the zeppelin regardless of whether you have papers or not.

[SonOfSmeagol]

They can ask for the papers, but there's no consequences whatsoever. They can't toss you off the zeppelin regardless of whether you have papers or not.

a person's immigration status can be checked while enforcing other laws

and if they're found to be wanted or something then action can be taken

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Speaking of papers please, why will it be ok for the federal government require me to show proof of health insurance via threat of jail and fines?

[Syd]

a person's immigration status can be checked while enforcing other laws

and if they're found to be wanted or something then action can be taken

Action can't be taken, they notify the ICE which is just going to ignore it because nothing is actually actionable. At best they can hassle people who fail paper bag tests but that runs the risk of starting a case that will worm it's way back to the SCOTUS.

Speaking of papers please, why will it be ok for the federal government require me to show proof of health insurance via threat of jail and fines?

Commerce clause. I'm not defending PPACA, but that's how they went about it.

[A.J.]

Here you go WF: even the Mexicans hate immigrants (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/14/world/americas/mexico-immigrant-shelter/index.html?hpt=hp_c1).

[spoon]

Speaking of papers please, why will it be ok for the federal government require me to show proof of health insurance via threat of jail and fines?

not when you get pulled over for a rolling stop or no seat belt

[spoon]

Enjoy the country in 50 years when its a catholic theocracy

Protestant.

http://i.imgur.com/7YQ2n.jpg

WF jokes? Derp indeed.

wf was completely serious

[spoon]

Im not going to get riled up anymore over this.. I wave the white flag.


When the country is mostly Hispanic, we'll see how gay rights, abortion and other issues like that are handled. Cause ya know they are really tolerant of that :nono:. Say goodbye to no prayer in public school as there will be statues of the Virgin Mary everywhere


On another note, Whites may be eligible for affirmative action.

make lemons out of lemonade--
load up on household staff

wow x 2

:wallbash:

[hanso]

He has waved the Hispanic flag.


:surrender:

[cougarjake13]

How do you say Sieg Heil! in Greek?

seig epoúlo̱si̱

[underdog]

Here you go WF: even the Mexicans hate immigrants (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/14/world/americas/mexico-immigrant-shelter/index.html?hpt=hp_c1).

That's what people fail to understand. EVERY country has the same immigrant problem, but everywhere acts like they have it the worst.

[Recyclerz]

That's what people fail to understand. EVERY country has the same immigrant problem, but everywhere acts like they have it the worst.

Well, I'm not so sure that North Korea or Syria have too many people trying to sneak in. Maybe we should be more like them.

:innocent:

[hanso]

That's what people fail to understand. EVERY country has the same immigrant problem, but everywhere acts like they have it the worst.

The Israeli government is putting their money where their mouth is free plane rides to Sudan.

[underdog]

Well, I'm not so sure that North Korea or Syria have too many people trying to sneak in. Maybe we should be more like them.

:innocent:

Seriously. You know how TERRIBLE your country has to be for people not to want to sneak in to? People try to go to CHINA illegally, for a better life.

[PapaBear]

That's what people fail to understand. EVERY country has the same immigrant problem, but everywhere acts like they have it the worst.
No matter what American city you go to, there are American transplants who say that city has the worst drivers they've ever seen. Intolerance of change is a basic human instinct.

[spoon]

No matter what American city you go to, there are American transplants who say that city has the worst drivers they've ever seen. Intolerance of change is a basic human instinct.

it definitely was better here before you and Keithy got keys to drive the car...off a cliff.

:innocent:

:wink:

I keed, keed...but really, we can agree Sailor sucks and is still 500% better than jon

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Illegals in Mexico dont get freebies and handouts via the Mexican taxpayer

[underdog]

Illegals in Mexico dont get freebies and handouts via the Mexican taxpayer

Exactly!

[hanso]

They fall from animals that are stung up in the air.

[spoon]

They fall from animals that are stung up in the air.

huh?


where's our hanslator?

[PapaBear]

huh?


where's our hanslator?
I'm guessing even he scratched his head after re-reading that one.

[jennysmurf]

huh?


where's our hanslator?

I've got this one. WF said that illegal immigrants in Mexico don't get free handouts from the government. Hanso agreed, saying that they get their handouts from pinatas. See? Pinatas are animals strung up in the air full of treats i.e. "free handouts."

[PapaBear]

I've got this one. WF said that illegal immigrants in Mexico don't get free handouts from the government. Hanso agreed, saying that they get their handouts from pinatas. See? Pinatas are animals strung up in the air full of treats i.e. "free handouts."
Your grasp of hanso's language frightens me.

[jennysmurf]

Your grasp of hanso's language frightens me.

It means I spend way too much time here.:wacko:

[spoon]

I'm guessing even he scratched his head after re-reading that one.

that line he wrote sums up hanso so perfectly it should be his mod quote

make it so!

:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This should be interesting


http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-challenges-george-lopez-meeting-170150706--abc-news-topstories.html

[Jujubees2]

Sheriff Joe is a joke

Arizona’s Sheriff Joe Arpaio claims Obama’s birth certificate is fake (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-claims-obama-birth-certificate-fake-article-1.1116755#ixzz20zdAECUW)

[spoon]

another stunt and it certainly is NOT interesting that he fights with comedians bc he has to defend idiotic comments and actions

[hanso]

Looks like Jon Stewart did something on this.

[Bob Impact]

The comments on that article are fucking priceless.

[PapaBear]

The comments on that article are fucking priceless.
Most of them need more hanslation for me to understand.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ICE union boss criticizes Obamas amnesty

http://news.yahoo.com/immigrants-don-t-prove-meet-dream-act-criteria-045005567.html?_esi=1

So this is a college student now


http://mafiatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/MS-13.jpg

[Jujubees2]

I know where WF is going for dinner tonight!

Outrage after taco restaurant gives employees “How to Catch an Illegal Immigrant” t-shirts (http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/08/outrage-after-taco-restaurant-gives-employees-how-to-catch-an-illegal-immigrant-t-shirts/)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm not going there, It got bad reviews and it's a trek from CT


Speaking of which, The genuises in Hartford want illegals to get drivers licenses.

[keithy_19]

I know where WF is going for dinner tonight!

Outrage after taco restaurant gives employees “How to Catch an Illegal Immigrant” t-shirts (http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/08/outrage-after-taco-restaurant-gives-employees-how-to-catch-an-illegal-immigrant-t-shirts/)

Man, I want tacos now.

[keithy_19]

“Of course it’s offensive, it’s meant to be,” says Lisa Navarette, advisor to the president at the National Council of La Raza. “This is simply a failing business trolling for attention. We would recommend people not patronize this place. Sure, because of this insult but really due to the fact that a restaurant this clueless about the Latino community can’t possibly make a decent taco.”


:laugh:

Of course, for reasons that are beyond me, the term La Raza annoys me.

[Melk]

:laugh:

Of course, for reasons that are beyond me, the term La Raza annoys me.
For me, I was never a fan of the pro wrestler Konan's gang banger character where he screamed, "Arriba la Raza!" For that reason... I cannot get behind any organization with the name "La Raza."

Change the name to, "The National Council of The Four Horsemen."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Los Caballeros Quattro

[epo]

:laugh:

Of course, for reasons that are beyond me, the term La Raza annoys me.

You're too white.

[keithy_19]

You're too white.

This could be true. I live in a very diverse area but I've never felt all that strongly about my ethnic heritage.

[spoon]

This could be true. I live in a very diverse area but I've never felt all that strongly about my ethnic heritage.

which is what?

part fluff, part mayo?

[keithy_19]

which is what?

part fluff, part mayo?

:down:

[hanso]

I know where WF is going for dinner tonight!

Outrage after taco restaurant gives employees “How to Catch an Illegal Immigrant” t-shirts (http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/08/outrage-after-taco-restaurant-gives-employees-how-to-catch-an-illegal-immigrant-t-shirts/)

Start by looking in back of store.

I'm not going there, It got bad reviews and it's a trek from CT


Speaking of which, The genuises in Hartford want illegals to get drivers licenses.

Is that the state its in? Remember a mayor think it was got in hot watter over this kinda speak, then said at end of walk back statement he was going out for tacos. Now we see why maybe.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Start by looking in back of store.



Is that the state its in? Remember a mayor think it was got in hot watter over this kinda speak, then said at end of walk back statement he was going out for tacos. Now we see why maybe.

According to the article Taco Cid is in SC and there's only 1 location left. The others had to close down.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sex offender and still applies for the DREAM act and probably wont get kicked out.
Im sure Menendez will prevent him from getting the boot back to Peru

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-us-ordered-delay-interns-arrest-172424335.html

[hanso]

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What you know bout this guy WF?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm shocked.


Hispanics going ice skating?




Seriously. I don't condone that. If youre going to go that route, Just post all the crimes that they commit every day. Drug dealing, rape etc.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Brown on black crime.



http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126,0,977110.story

[hanso]

I'm shocked.


Hispanics going ice skating?




Seriously. I don't condone that. If youre going to go that route, Just post all the crimes that they commit every day. Drug dealing, rape etc.

So that's your take on it? Nothing about the Wake Forest man gunning down an immigrant stranger at his door

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So that's your take on it? Nothing about the Wake Forest man gunning down an immigrant stranger at his door

I said I didnt condone it. Anyone who guns down an uninvited guest who isn't a threat should be prosecuted and shouldnt own a gun.

[spoon]

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What you know bout this guy WF?

I knew Sailor was Dspy's age!

[spoon]

I'm shocked.


Hispanics going ice skating?




Seriously. I don't condone that. If youre going to go that route, Just post all the crimes that they commit every day. Drug dealing, rape etc.

great take!

you are amazing

fucking fool

[jennysmurf]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtvNmthEcIC9fGXnB_72S4xmt4kA56y L_Ccbm2ZwCcxrdn0G5y7w

[WRESTLINGFAN]

At a Senate committee hearing yesterday a bunch of open borders advocates stormed the room yelling and carrying signs bitching about deportations


Yes dickwads, that really helps your cause

[DarkHippie]

At a Senate committee hearing yesterday a bunch of open borders advocates stormed the room yelling and carrying signs bitching about deportations



They should've put up a fence to keep them out...

[razorboy]

They should've put up a fence to keep them out...

Or just cut the power and hope they self-deport.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They should've put up a fence to keep them out...



They are probably employed by the Capitol grounds crew

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why are they bitching about their amigos getting the boot? No one dragged them across the border

[NickyL0885]

No matter how this issue is "solved", people will still sneak over the border. It will never change. All I hear is "boots on the ground". Yeah? Those boots must be asleep, b/c it seems that's all we do, and yet people still get over. I don't think the illegals here should get amnesty right away, b/c they shouldn't get to cut the line in front of actual people who have been waiting for years to become legal citizens for years.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

he's not like Romney

http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-arrested-for-sexually-assaulting-a-dog-florida

[DarkHippie]

It was much easier when they could only get here by boat. Keep them out in New York Harbor and let them unload at Ellis Island or Castle Garden one boat at a time

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The immigrants from Europe didn't have it easy there were qualifications. Today's immigrants (mostly illegal ) have it made once they get here

Now I know a deal has to get done however amnesty should not include citizenship exceptions are Military service, peace corps or something like that

Also no more chain migration. The 1986 law and subsequent amnesty included that.

[spoon]

The immigrants from Europe didn't have it easy there were qualifications. Today's immigrants (mostly illegal ) have it made once they get here


You're an idiot...again.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You're an idiot...again.

Gawddddddddd you are a dope.


So they don't? Welfare, foodstamps, automatic citizenship for their anchor babies, in state tuition, incentives NOT to learn English? Politicians who coddle them? Access to use the ER as their personal medicine cabinets, housing subsidies. Cash assistance. They struck gold when they got here.

[Syd]

Gawddddddddd you are a dope.


So they don't? Welfare, foodstamps, automatic citizenship for their anchor babies, in state tuition, incentives NOT to learn English? Politicians who coddle them? Access to use the ER as their personal medicine cabinets, housing subsidies. Cash assistance. They struck gold when they got here.

TANF is temporary, foodstamps cap out at about $100/mo for a family of several, anchor babies are a myth (that only works after they turn 18 or the parents have been in America for a decade or so), what incentive should be there to learn English? America is jus soli the way the Constitution intended, housing subsidies have a massive waiting list, and cash assistance? you mean TANF?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

TANF is temporary, foodstamps cap out at about $100/mo for a family of several, anchor babies are a myth (that only works after they turn 18 or the parents have been in America for a decade or so), what incentive should be there to learn English? America is jus soli the way the Constitution intended, housing subsidies have a massive waiting list, and cash assistance? you mean TANF?

Illegals use their kids as cash cows. It's not a myth that they don't use these services. Plus their kids also get free school breakfast and lunch, another cost to the taxpayer. Illegals who use Fake SSN's file tax returns and they get more back than they pay in taxes thru the EITC. Last year there was massive fraud in which illegals were claiming dependents in their home countries which is illegal.


Read article 4 section 4 about protecting the US from invasion.


I'm a libertarian but I take issue with their open borders stance and uncontrolled immigration. None of them see the other side. You cant have open borders with a giant welfare state. Now if they came here and were on their own and were not needy and dependant, then their case for open borders would hold validity.

[Jujubees2]

Gawddddddddd you are a dope.


So they don't? Welfare, foodstamps, automatic citizenship for their anchor babies, in state tuition, incentives NOT to learn English? Politicians who coddle them? Access to use the ER as their personal medicine cabinets, housing subsidies. Cash assistance. They struck gold when they got here.

http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2012/1/cj32n1-11.pdf

Despite the common belief, newcomers to the United States are not generally eligible for the full smorgasbord of welfare benefits. Title IV of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 has made it difficult for legal permanent residents in the United States to live as wards of the state. The law, also known as the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, states that “selfsufficiency has been a basic principle of United States immigration law.” In particular, “aliens within the Nation’s borders [should] not depend on public resources to meet their needs,” and “the availability of public benefits [should] not constitute an incentive for immigration to the United States” (U.S. Congress 1996).

The law bars newly legalized permanent residents from eligibility for a range of federal income support programs for at least the first five years of their residency. Those programs include Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Food Stamps, Supplemental Security Income,Medicaid (Full-Scope),and the Children’s Health Insurance
Program (Anderson 2010: 198). The law requires a relative to sign a sworn affidavit committing to support the legal permanent resident for their first five years of residency if needed. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for almost all federal welfare programs.

[jafter]

Don't give them one penny of Federal or State money period. NO you are not a citizen of the US you do not deserve in state tuition to go to our colleges. A person from a neighboring state has more rights then you do.

No social security, no low income housing, no food stamps, nothing until your paperwork has been approved. Then you go after the businesses that hire them. $1,000 fine per illegal immigrant found working for your company on the first offense, second offense lets make it 10,000.. Third offense you lose your business license for a year.

Take the incentives out of coming here and they will not come. Stop cow towing towards criminals. Why do we put up with this bullshit. Because the stupid politicians want 12 million votes once they figure out what they are going to do with them.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2012/1/cj32n1-11.pdf

Despite the common belief, newcomers to the United States are not generally eligible for the full smorgasbord of welfare benefits. Title IV of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 has made it difficult for legal permanent residents in the United States to live as wards of the state. The law, also known as the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, states that “selfsufficiency has been a basic principle of United States immigration law.” In particular, “aliens within the Nation’s borders [should] not depend on public resources to meet their needs,” and “the availability of public benefits [should] not constitute an incentive for immigration to the United States” (U.S. Congress 1996).

The law bars newly legalized permanent residents from eligibility for a range of federal income support programs for at least the first five years of their residency. Those programs include Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Food Stamps, Supplemental Security Income,Medicaid (Full-Scope),and the Children’s Health Insurance
Program (Anderson 2010: 198). The law requires a relative to sign a sworn affidavit committing to support the legal permanent resident for their first five years of residency if needed. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for almost all federal welfare programs.


What I am saying is that they use their children as cash cows. Furthermore what is never mentioned is the large scales of fraud waste and abuse. I don't believe the governments estimate of 11 million illegals here. It's at least double. Illegals are having multiple children and the burden they add while having these anchor babies are breaking the backs of the taxpayers especially in states like CA.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Don't give them one penny of Federal or State money period. NO you are not a citizen of the US you do not deserve in state tuition to go to our colleges. A person from a neighboring state has more rights then you do.

No social security, no low income housing, no food stamps, nothing until your paperwork has been approved. Then you go after the businesses that hire them. $1,000 fine per illegal immigrant found working for your company on the first offense, second offense lets make it 10,000.. Third offense you lose your business license for a year.

Take the incentives out of coming here and they will not come. Stop cow towing towards criminals. Why do we put up with this bullshit. Because the stupid politicians want 12 million votes once they figure out what they are going to do with them.

If the bill that will eventually be signed includes a path to citizenship. Those 20 million will vote almost entirely for the democrats.

Immigration was not the top reason why Hispanics voted mostly for Obama. They worship big government especially entitlements. The Obama campaign ran Pro Obamacare ads in Spanish because its that demographic who will greatly benefit from it since a lot are uninsured.

[Jujubees2]

http://billericapolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/anchor3.gif

[Jujubees2]

http://a4cgr.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/rubio-anchorbaby.jpg?w=600

[A.J.]

It was much easier when they could only get here by boat. Keep them out in New York Harbor and let them unload at Ellis Island or Castle Garden one boat at a time

Or Miami.

http://thumbs.anyclip.com/tfyYbV5Wy/tmb_560_480.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8yBmwXW4XEM/TGBOHvDTCjI/AAAAAAAAJYc/cvGEC1dEVLQ/s400/ANCHOR+BABIES,+OBAMACARTOON.jpg

[Jujubees2]

What I am saying is that they use their children as cash cows. Furthermore what is never mentioned is the large scales of fraud waste and abuse. I don't believe the governments estimate of 11 million illegals here. It's at least double. Illegals are having multiple children and the burden they add while having these anchor babies are breaking the backs of the taxpayers especially in states like CA.


Fact-checking the claims about 'anchor babies' and whether illegal immigrants 'drop and leave' (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/aug/06/lindsey-graham/illegal-immigrants-anchor-babies-birthright/)

It's important to note that having an "anchor baby" won't do much to help a Mexican mom become a U.S. citizen. Because citizen children cannot sponsor their parents for citizenship until they turn 21 -- and because if the parents were ever illegal, they would have to return home for 10 years before applying to come in -- having a baby to secure citizenship for its parents is an extremely long-term, and uncertain, process.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fact-checking the claims about 'anchor babies' and whether illegal immigrants 'drop and leave' (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/aug/06/lindsey-graham/illegal-immigrants-anchor-babies-birthright/)

It's important to note that having an "anchor baby" won't do much to help a Mexican mom become a U.S. citizen. Because citizen children cannot sponsor their parents for citizenship until they turn 21 -- and because if the parents were ever illegal, they would have to return home for 10 years before applying to come in -- having a baby to secure citizenship for its parents is an extremely long-term, and uncertain, process.

I knew that already, What I'm saying is that many come here for the lavish taxpayer funded benefits via having anchor babies like this example.

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It's not just the Mexicans abusing the 14th amendment (Which was never intended for people to come here and have anchor babies) The Chinese are coming to SoCal for that purpose


http://abcnews.go.com/US/birth-tourism-complaints-spike-los-angeles-county/story?id=18337755


Besides, When amnesty gets passed, the provisions you brought up will be shitcanned as these illegals won't have to return to their countries and wait. That's not going to the back of the line.

For anyone saying it's not amnesty , think again. As long as you hopped a fence or overstayed a visa being able to stay here and apply is amnesty.

[Syd]

rancid
cunts

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Gawwwwwwwwwd damn!!! These fuckers are never satisfied. They get rewarded and all they do is complain.



http://news.yahoo.com/pink-stripe-nc-illegal-immigrant-licenses-eyed-204800831.html

[spoon]

Gawwwwwwwwwd damn!!! These fuckers are never satisfied. They get rewarded and all they do is complain.



http://news.yahoo.com/pink-stripe-nc-illegal-immigrant-licenses-eyed-204800831.html

yah!

what's wrong with these kids!?

Among the concerns raised by Brody and other bill sponsors is that illegal immigrants might use their new licenses to access social programs or register to vote, despite the bright pink markings. An extensive 2011 review of the state's 6.4 million registered voters by the N.C. Board of Elections found 12 instances were a non-citizen successfully cast a ballot.
Jose Rico, a 23-year-old Raleigh resident from Mexico who has already been issued DACA work permit, said he plans to be in line at the DMV on March 25 to get a license, even if it's pink. He will be extremely disappointed if state legislators pass a bill delaying or a denying his ability to do so.
"I don't know what's wrong with these people, why they're so afraid of people like me," said Rico, who has lived in the U.S. since he was 13. "It's so frustrating. I passed a federal background check, done everything right by the book. I'm paying taxes. I mean, we're just kids trying to go to school."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There are millions of US born kids. I guess they don't count?

[razorboy]

There are millions of US born kids. I guess they don't count?

Most of them count, just not very well.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yah!

what's wrong with these kids!?



They should vent their anger at their parents for their dilemma

[spoon]

There are millions of US born kids. I guess they don't count?

sure, that's EXACTLY my point!

:wallbash:

[spoon]

They should vent their anger at their parents for their dilemma

I'll tell them all you said fuck off...hold on wrestlingTeresa. BRB

:innocent:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This article is as ridiculous as EJ Dionne suggesting that the next pope be a nun

http://www.forbes.com/sites/harrybinswanger/2013/03/04/amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants-is-not-enough-they-deserve-an-apology/



An “illegal” immigrant is, in principle, like a Jew in Nazi Germany who refused to wear the yellow star. Yes, I grant you that ours is not a barbarous dictatorship like the Nazi regime, and in the name of objectivity, there is a certain deference due to legality and lawfulness as such. But not at the price of wasting one’s life in Senegal, Haiti, or even Greece, instead of America.

http://www.whatmmorpg.com/articles/captain-picard-facepalm.jpg

[spoon]

This article is as ridiculous as EJ Dionne suggesting that the next pope be a nun

http://www.forbes.com/sites/harrybinswanger/2013/03/04/amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants-is-not-enough-they-deserve-an-apology/



An “illegal” immigrant is, in principle, like a Jew in Nazi Germany who refused to wear the yellow star. Yes, I grant you that ours is not a barbarous dictatorship like the Nazi regime, and in the name of objectivity, there is a certain deference due to legality and lawfulness as such. But not at the price of wasting one’s life in Senegal, Haiti, or even Greece, instead of America.

http://www.whatmmorpg.com/articles/captain-picard-facepalm.jpg

people just have to STOP trying to make their issues linked in any way to the Nazis in any direction. usually it just makes your side, party or whatever you're trying to back idiotic in comparison

yet funny how you're still on the next pope/nun bullshit article as if it mattered...unless they did pick a woman, but that's too much for status quo fuckwad to handle

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's more self righteous pseudo intellectualism by people who think they are smarter than everyone else just because they have an article published.



They value America???? Really??? Boasting about conquering the Southwest, abusing our social welfare system, contributing to crime and disease ? Doesn't sound like Apple pie and hotdogs to me.

[spoon]

ha, and the doughnuts in the muddy parking lot that is WF's head continue

pseudo intellectuals...how original and hilarious coming from you, again, and again, and again

and who said anything about valuing america?

talking to those anti-WF voices in your head again huh

you're a peach!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Read the article. He writes they value America

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes Pseudo intellectualism.

Using a Nazi comparison for people who chose to came here against a religious group who were sent to their deaths

The illegals have it made here. No ones burning statues of the Virgin Mary on their lawns
They are being showered with lavish entitlements

[spoon]

no just stupid fucks

your kin

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What kin ?

[spoon]

here, added something extra white to fit WF even more...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Zw91jU9YnA8/UIVU7Y446vI/AAAAAAAAAuU/kQDGkHCBkR8/s1600/fox+polar+bear.jpg

[hanso]

http://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=Ay5GWBeob_WIPLDYoIWcfVXxvZu9XwJ55OX7Ag,0hyf4g xos5gMeYojXCu59ipCJnHPbAAUG3Ml6Y2MIFIptwtF1AzBmi5a H1z3-q5yIN7oEPWePPNGwW3P92dZmytfij7Qz51gYfRCWAClybwRX1B B9NCs6ClHSCVRJcUSyz9HvA

[spoon]

:lol:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=Ay5GWBeob_WIPLDYoIWcfVXxvZu9XwJ55OX7Ag,0hyf4g xos5gMeYojXCu59ipCJnHPbAAUG3Ml6Y2MIFIptwtF1AzBmi5a H1z3-q5yIN7oEPWePPNGwW3P92dZmytfij7Qz51gYfRCWAClybwRX1B B9NCs6ClHSCVRJcUSyz9HvA



How close is the nearest greasy spoon ?

[spoon]

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNQVuTJJHvI0aYgS2-BUyAEFE2ARrekBOFLd3a-rKrL_0h41rfeA

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nice to see your Senate Blocked a bill to kill food stamp literature encouraging Mexicos unwanted to apply

Before anyone says anything this was started under Señor Bush's admin
It was killed in committee

[spoon]

my president, my senate

YOU'RE hilarious

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes your senate basically wants to keep a program greenlit so more needy dependent people can come here and enjoy lavish benefits at our expense

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Might I add with your presidents blessing

[spoon]

sure, add away

add as many stupid points as you like fool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hop a fence , overstay a visa, get knocked up and Tio Sam takes care of you and your extended family

[spoon]

you're the immigration comedian

now I get it

tio...ha!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Senor Open Borders McCain says illegal immigrant and the illegals along with their advocacy groups want the term illegal immigrant to be nixed.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/290275-mccain-wont-stop-saying-illegal-immigrant


Dont these people know that the US isn't the failed country they fled from? There's nothing insensitive about calling someone illegal. Who the fuck are these people to lecture us on what to call them?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course they are poor. It didn't take a study for that. When many have little education illiterate in 2 languages, and having children in which they can't afford this is what happens


http://www.cssny.org/publications/entry/young-mexican-americans-in-new-york-city

[spoon]

illiterate in 2 languages!?

ha!

put me down for this in every language but two...and my espanol is severely lacking

I must be a heathen!

you really are hilarious

and stop having kids at all, don't you know you can't afford happiness and kids!

fuck's sake

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Si Senor


Ingles Y Espanol.

[A.J.]

and stop having kids at all, don't you know you can't afford happiness and kids!

No kids = happiness.

[jennysmurf]

No kids = happiness.

Word.

[sailor]

Word.

Odd, given your vocation.

[A.J.]

No kids = happiness.

Word.

No wonder I'm willing to marry you.:wub:

[spoon]

No wonder I'm willing to marry you.:wub:

ha, no marriage = happiness

check + mate....get it

[jennysmurf]

Odd, given your vocation.

It has just confirmed my decision not to have my own.

[jennysmurf]

ha, no marriage = happiness

check + mate....get it

Are you unhappy? You seem so content.

[jennysmurf]

No wonder I'm willing to marry you.:wub:

Oh you, and your sexy insurance. :wub:

[spoon]

Are you unhappy? You seem so content.

just some friendly advice for AJ

[jennysmurf]

just some friendly advice for AJ

Stop trying to mess up my good thing!

[spoon]

Stop trying to mess up my good thing!

he is quite a dashing cup of coffee though

one must protect their commodities

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_d_v3uWfQ0sM/S-21x-lW0kI/AAAAAAAABiQ/TFZCFURPbGg/s1600/hans-gruber.jpg

[A.J.]

he is quite a dashing cup of coffee though

one must protect their commodities

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_d_v3uWfQ0sM/S-21x-lW0kI/AAAAAAAABiQ/TFZCFURPbGg/s1600/hans-gruber.jpg

This time John Wayne walks off into the sunset with Grace Kelly.

[Jujubees2]

No kids = happiness.

Thanks AJ, you're about 17 years too late with that piece of wisdom for me