The Immigration Issue

[spoon]

Thanks AJ, you're about 17 years too late with that piece of wisdom for me

it's never too late for an abortion

never

:devil2:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8gnOEB2hnC3fRGaTZp68IrpRkAH2PB V0DuokrgG0Vz-FAEZ4s

[Jujubees2]

GOP congressman uses ethnic slur to describe laborers (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/28/17509106-gop-congressman-uses-ethnic-slur-to-describe-laborers?lite)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Estimates are by the middle of the year, Whites will be the minority in CA so it's open season to call them Crackers

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fence hop fail


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27/mccain-watches-woman-scale-border-wall-during-visit/comment-page-1/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So saying the word illegal immigrant is dehumanizing?



AP drops that term from its reporting

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480725_321878334607063_591026742_n.jpg

[epo]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480725_321878334607063_591026742_n.jpg


Racist.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How about calling them undocumented Bankers

[A.J.]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480725_321878334607063_591026742_n.jpg

Racist.

The gunman is clearly white. You can tell by his skin -- and that the weapon is being held properly, not on its side.

[spoon]

How about calling them undocumented Bankers

your jokes are worse than your points

[WRESTLINGFAN]

High UE and the gang of 8 want to reward them with citizenship

Again What laws can I break and get rewarded with?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How do you say Chutzpah in Spanish. Today tens of thousands of illegal aliens were in Washington DC making demands for citizenship. Who the fuck are they to make demands?. The welfare, food stamps, healthcare,automatic citizenship and other lavish perks for their anchor babies isn't enough? They oughta be thanking us that they get to live in a country where you they drink out of the same rivers they piss in. Furthermore they oughta thank us that they have running water and electricity and that there aren't mass murders, beheadings etc like in the failed countries they come from. How about we make some demands. We demand they learn English. We demand they wear condoms when they are fucking so we don't have to subsidize more anchor babies. Don't like it? We demand you go home and fix your own countries

Oh the irony. This guy is holding a Murrrrrrrican flag but carrying a sign in Spanish.


http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3BcudhnyycDIg0EC95CR0w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xMDI0O3E9Nzk7dz0xNT M2/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/4ef0a5db160eab0c2e0f6a7067007348.jpg

[spoon]

bc our national language is?

lavish perks for their anchor babies isn't enough? lavish huh?

They oughta be thanking us that they get to live in a country where you they drink out of the same rivers they piss in. this is good stuff WF...very sensible

[WRESTLINGFAN]

bc our national language is?

lavish huh?

this is good stuff WF...very sensible

If youre going to sneak in the country, use our social services and feed off the taxpayer at least learn some English. Now it's not illegal to speak another language, if youre going to carry signs that make demands, is it too much to do it in our language


Yes lavish. It's like they struck the lottery.


Yes very sensible. Many of the illegals come from the 3rd world , from failed countries which their governments are bought off and paid for worse than ours are. If illegals are such hard workers they would work hard to fix their countries. Since they are here they should be thanking us.

Many come here with a grudge and a chip on their shoulder. If their country is so great why did they come here like cowards and want to turn ours into the failed states they are from?

[epo]

It's a good thing WF has the moral high ground on this topic and is a Native American. Oh wait...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That Indian excuse again.

There are theories that the Indians were not the 1st people in the Americas





If you feel you don't deserve to be here, you're free to move to a monochrome society like Norway

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Big Sis allows thousands of illegals , some violent to be released and roam free but they order bagpipes


Fuck her and her Sequester bitching

[spoon]

norway has bagpipes?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Big Sis decided to cxl the order.

[spoon]

big sis now...really

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So he's deemed incompetent because there's no interpreter for him because he speaks a primitive language indigenous to Ecuador. He doesn't understand the court process but he was competent enough to buy alcohol and drink like an animal and end up killing someone

Now he wont be freed just yet. They need to find someone who speaks his language to explain to him



Then again, its expected in a State like MA



http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2013/04/defendant_in_milford_death_rul.html

[hanso]

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Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert (R) on Wednesday connected the Monday bombings in Boston to the immigration debate and warned that "radical Islamists" were "being trained to come in and act like Hispanics."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert (R) on Wednesday connected the Monday bombings in Boston to the immigration debate and warned that "radical Islamists" were "being trained to come in and act like Hispanics."


That's ridiculous


The Tsarnaev brothers were not landscapers.

[spoon]

good one

[hanso]

Gohmert, King and Bachmann Immigration champions.

[Jujubees2]

WF is going to love this one

US hospitals send hundreds of immigrants back home (http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/23/17880196-us-hospitals-send-hundreds-of-immigrants-back-home?lite)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Senor Obama will straighten everything out. He should just say that he's here for an engineering degree or going for his doctorate in education.



http://radio.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-119078/obama-will-let-me-out-11180453/

[Jujubees2]

Senor Obama will straighten everything out. He should just say that he's here for an engineering degree or going for his doctorate in education.



http://radio.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-119078/obama-will-let-me-out-11180453/

Wow, such a scientific study. Way up?

Not one mention of actually data.

Officials say the number of people entering the U.S. illegally is way up and, tragically, the number of undocumented immigrants who have been found dead in the unforgiving Texas Brush Country is way up, and is on path this year to beat last year's record for the number of people found dead in the ranch country.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow, such a scientific study. Way up?

Not one mention of actually data.

Officials say the number of people entering the U.S. illegally is way up and, tragically, the number of undocumented immigrants who have been found dead in the unforgiving Texas Brush Country is way up, and is on path this year to beat last year's record for the number of people found dead in the ranch country.

You're right


Maybe they should use the same metrics Obama peddles that 40% of gun sales being done without background checks.

[Jujubees2]

You're right


Maybe they should use the same metrics Obama peddles that 40% of gun sales being done without background checks.

At least Obama uses numbers not vague terms like "way up"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

At least Obama uses numbers not vague terms like "way up"

They're bad numbers. Doesn't matter if someone blogging in Starbucks wanting more gun control or if the President says it.


So Obama doesn't use vague terms like "rich" "fair share" and other catchphrases?

[Jujubees2]

They're bad numbers. Doesn't matter if someone blogging in Starbucks wanting more gun control or if the President says it.


So Obama doesn't use vague terms like "rich" "fair share" and other catchphrases?

Getting off topic here WF. You're original story is about the increase in immigrants crossing the border. Focus!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Getting off topic here WF. You're original story is about the increase in immigrants crossing the border. Focus!

I trust the people catching illegals at the border more than some useless bureaucrat 2500 miles away in DC

[epo]

Senor Obama will straighten everything out. He should just say that he's here for an engineering degree or going for his doctorate in education.



http://radio.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-119078/obama-will-let-me-out-11180453/

Your inability to rationally think is absolutely wonderful.

[spoon]

Your inability to rationally think is absolutely wonderful.

even better, look at the WF think tank in the comment section of that article

scary

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Chief of border patrol testified before the senate that apprehensions are up 13% based on recent data like arrests

Meanwhile that useless clod Napolitano insists its secure

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course these ungrateful people pick Mayday to march and make demands. Life is so bad for them. Getting taxpayer funded entitlements, their anchor babies getting automatic citizenship and they still complain.




http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/04/30/may-day-marches-expected-to-cause-traffic-detours-delays-in-downtown-la/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Shredded Mexican.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/01/man-trapped-border-fence_n_3194505.html#slide=2152177

[A.J.]

Shredded Mexican.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/01/man-trapped-border-fence_n_3194505.html#slide=2152177

That reminds me: I should go to that carnitas food truck down the street from my house.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Pot calling Kettle brown


http://www.examiner.com/article/hypocrisy-mexico-deported-dozens-of-migrant-children-this-month?cid=db_articles

[epo]

Pot calling Kettle brown


http://www.examiner.com/article/hypocrisy-mexico-deported-dozens-of-migrant-children-this-month?cid=db_articles

Your posting of opinion columns is boring. Stick to news & data you damned hippie!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Your posting of opinion columns is boring. Stick to news & data you damned hippie!

Opinions?


Try being an illegal alien in Mexico. Think the welfare wagon and red carpet will be rolled out? If you are some unlucky Mayan or Inca who happens to get caught, your ass will be tossed in a dingy Mexican jail. If you are a woman , the federales and or Cartel members will have their way with you.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another media outlet bans Illegal immigrant


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/05/new-la-times-ban-illegal-immigrant-puts-everybody-else-spot/64795/


Undocumented immigrant is false. Many do have documents but they are forged or documents from dead people or children via identity theft.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Adios Pendeja


http://www.examiner.com/article/lol-illegal-alien-activist-is-being-deported?cid=db_articles

[spoon]

Another media outlet bans Illegal immigrant


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/05/new-la-times-ban-illegal-immigrant-puts-everybody-else-spot/64795/


Undocumented immigrant is false. Many do have documents but they are forged or documents from dead people or children via identity theft.

so not false, they are still undocumented

an I'd LOVE to see the number on forged docs, much less your claim to dead people and children via identity theft!

you're hilarious still...and a racist cunt

[spoon]

Opinions?


Try being an illegal alien in Mexico. Think the welfare wagon and red carpet will be rolled out? If you are some unlucky Mayan or Inca who happens to get caught, your ass will be tossed in a dingy Mexican jail. If you are a woman , the federales and or Cartel members will have their way with you.

and your point is what? we should do the same?

I don't give a fuck what they do in regard to our policy. I care what OUR country does and how IT treats immigrants, documents or not. Your point is lost in the ether of stupidity.

[spoon]

Adios Pendeja


http://www.examiner.com/article/lol-illegal-alien-activist-is-being-deported?cid=db_articles

yahhh, stopped reading that garbage at the first "word"

"LOL", not only professional, but great writing to say the least.

No wonder you love that site.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so not false, they are still undocumented

an I'd LOVE to see the number on forged docs, much less your claim to dead people and children via identity theft!

you're hilarious still...and a racist cunt

They are documented. Again slow one. Theyre carrying fake ones.


I still call them illegal aliens. I'm not bound by stupid newspaper policies.


You're still a stupid American.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and your point is what? we should do the same?

I don't give a fuck what they do in regard to our policy. I care what OUR country does and how IT treats immigrants, documents or not. Your point is lost in the ether of stupidity.

Oh fuck the laws. Don't enforce them. All we hear is how we should emulate Canada and Western Europe in regards to Single payer how about emulating what Mexico does for immigration. It's the strategy of turning arguments against people. While we are at it. Obama wants more revenue? 50% Tax of all remittances

They bitch cry and complain while we send their citizens back but their laws are harsher than ours.


Legal immigrants (Like the Tsarnaevs) have it made here. Illegal aliens are living the life as well.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yahhh, stopped reading that garbage at the first "word"

"LOL", not only professional, but great writing to say the least.

No wonder you love that site.

Since you are lazy. The illegal got into an accident and fled the scene. She resisted arrest. Already deported once she is getting canned again.

Damn that site. They should all be polished journalists like David Sirota hoping that terrorists are American born

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I laugh at these illegals and their supporters marching on May day demanding citizenship. Especially the ones wearing Che Guevera T shirts. What does Che Guevara have to do with anything? Besides, he was a failure as a guerrilla leader and when the Bolivian Army (and Cuban exiles) caught up with him he pled for his life like a scared little bitch. Not so tough when you're not executing unarmed Cuban farmers.

[spoon]

They are documented. Again slow one. Theyre carrying fake ones.


I still call them illegal aliens. I'm not bound by stupid newspaper policies.


You're still a stupid American.

nope, still undocumented...if they docs are not theirs, they aren't documented
just as if I don't have a driver's license but carry one I found/stole or borrowed, doesn't mean I have an actual license...but why am I even trying, they are undocumented no matter what way you look at it

nobody said you are bound by newspaper policy

and you speak for yourself on that one

[WRESTLINGFAN]

nope, still undocumented...if they docs are not theirs, they aren't documented
just as if I don't have a driver's license but carry one I found/stole or borrowed, doesn't mean I have an actual license...but why am I even trying, they are undocumented no matter what way you look at it

nobody said you are bound by newspaper policy

and you speak for yourself on that one

Phony documented. If they are using a dead persons SSN it's documented. You can say false documented. They use them so they can file federal income taxes and receive more than they pay. Many have claimed dependents in their home countries which is illegal.

Yah. You are stupid.

[spoon]

Oh fuck the laws. Don't enforce them. All we hear is how we should emulate Canada and Western Europe in regards to Single payer how about emulating what Mexico does for immigration. It's the strategy of turning arguments against people. While we are at it. Obama wants more revenue? 50% Tax of all remittances

They bitch cry and complain while we send their citizens back but their laws are harsher than ours.


Legal immigrants (Like the Tsarnaevs) have it made here. Illegal aliens are living the life as well.
who said don't enforce the laws? when did we hear this emulation of Canadian and Western European in THIS conversation? you just have no answer for your tie in and stupidity once again so we're off to the WF tangent races bc you're a fucking idiot. turning arguments against people? wtf are you talking about? oh and now rev and remittances...nice work.

again, I don't give two fucks how archaic THEIR laws are, we don't write them, enforce them or even try. I focus on the way OUR country operates and treats other humans no matter where they come from in terms of country, race or financially. You're just a relentless fool.

[spoon]

Phony documented. If they are using a dead persons SSN it's documented. You can say false documented. They use them so they can file federal income taxes and receive more than they pay. Many have claimed dependents in their home countries which is illegal.

Yah. You are stupid.

again re re, it's not THEIR documentation, so THEY are undocumented

it's really not that tough, yet for you...

one only hopes it's not pure stupidity here, but brazen denial to push your stupid/destroyed point...again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

who said don't enforce the laws? when did we hear this emulation of Canadian and Western European in THIS conversation? you just have no answer for your tie in and stupidity once again so we're off to the WF tangent races bc you're a fucking idiot. turning arguments against people? wtf are you talking about? oh and now rev and remittances...nice work.

again, I don't give two fucks how archaic THEIR laws are, we don't write them, enforce them or even try. I focus on the way OUR country operates and treats other humans no matter where they come from in terms of country, race or financially. You're just a relentless fool.

Then you should be concerned that our country does not enforce it's laws and allowed 3 million illegals turn into 20 million. Congress played Reagan for a fool in 1986. Again this country rolls out the welfare wagon and red carpet out to legal immigrants and illegal aliens.

Besides what laws am I allowed to break and get rewarded for? While this fucking government regulates and taxes citizens to death, we welcome people with open arms, put them on the dole and some want to make IED's after receive all that largesse.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

again re re, it's not THEIR documentation, so THEY are undocumented

it's really not that tough, yet for you...

one only hopes it's not pure stupidity here, but brazen denial to push your stupid/destroyed point...again

Ever hear of possession is 9/10 of the law? They are freely using those documents to open bank accounts, buy beer, obtain credit cards and receive thousands of dollars in tax returns.

You are shooting blanks.

[spoon]

Then you should be concerned that our country does not enforce it's laws and allowed 3 million illegals turn into 20 million. Congress played Reagan for a fool in 1986. Again this country rolls out the welfare wagon and red carpet out to legal immigrants and illegal aliens.

Besides what laws am I allowed to break and get rewarded for? While this fucking government regulates and taxes citizens to death, we welcome people with open arms, put them on the dole and some want to make IED's after receive all that largesse.

the point wasn't I agree with your take asshat, it was you went astray AGAIN

thanks for yet another bs laden rant again

as if you haven's said the same shit five thousand times at this point

and when did "we" ever welcome people with open arms? you certainly have not, along with many others. and how often does you IED scenario occur? both with immigrants and citizens? yah, I'm sure it's pretty damn close and RARE in both instances. now your sacred gun issues, those happen all the time but that's fine right?

I try not to be all over, but even attempting to have a conversation with you means it's time for WHEEL of TOPICS...or HATE if there is any tie in to people of color, no wealth or Obama in any way. In short, you suck.

[spoon]

Ever hear of possession is 9/10 of the law? They are freely using those documents to open bank accounts, buy beer, obtain credit cards and receive thousands of dollars in tax returns.

You are shooting blanks.

undocumented

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the point wasn't I agree with your take asshat, it was you went astray AGAIN

thanks for yet another bs laden rant again

as if you haven's said the same shit five thousand times at this point

and when did "we" ever welcome people with open arms? you certainly have not, along with many others. and how often does you IED scenario occur? both with immigrants and citizens? yah, I'm sure it's pretty damn close and RARE in both instances. now your sacred gun issues, those happen all the time but that's fine right?

I try not to be all over, but even attempting to have a conversation with you means it's time for WHEEL of TOPICS...or HATE if there is any tie in to people of color, no wealth or Obama in any way. In short, you suck.

So we havent been welcoming illegals with open arms. Job opportunity. Welfare, Anchor baby status for their children. Healthcare, section 8 housing and all the other gifts?

Who knows how many are out there? We hand out student visas and asylum like candy. Many foreign students barely go to college. On top of that, I'm sure there are sleeper cells in this country.

On the gun issue in many cases those guns were obtained illegally. I'll turn the argument against you. Want more gun control? How about immigration control?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Tsarnaevs are not people of color. They are from the Caucuses region of Central Asia.

AKA Ground zero for Whites.

[spoon]

So we havent been welcoming illegals with open arms. Job opportunity. Welfare, Anchor baby status for their children. Healthcare, section 8 housing and all the other gifts?

Who knows how many are out there? We hand out student visas and asylum like candy. Many foreign students barely go to college. On top of that, I'm sure there are sleeper cells in this country.

On the gun issue in many cases those guns were obtained illegally. I'll turn the argument against you. Want more gun control? How about immigration control?

we need both

you sure turned that on me

we just have VERY DIFFERENT tact and methods to doing so

and anchor babies? we give them anchor babies? student visas and asylum like candy, yah not true. and yes, you are a paranoid little man too.

oof, you're just so stupid

[spoon]

The Tsarnaevs are not people of color. They are from the Caucuses region of Central Asia.

AKA Ground zero for Whites.

really wf?

and explain "ground zero" for whites!?

this is a class hate issue now right?

can't wait to hear this tripe

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes. Ground zero for whites. Hence Caucasian.


You know who needs immigrants? Japan. They have an aging population and virtually flat birth rates

[spoon]

Yes. Ground zero for whites. Hence Caucasian.


You know who needs immigrants? Japan. They have an aging population and virtually flat birth rates

Japan, wtf WF? Just TRY to stay on target.

And again, WHAT DOES GROUND ZERO FOR WHITES mean?

not sure why you just typed it out again outside of how fucking stupid you are

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow you really are a slow one. If you don't know that the Fatwa fraternals are white then you're a lost cause.

Yes Japan needs immigrants. There are over 310 million people here. We do need a breather or at the very least limit the amount of people coming in. This isn't the dawn of the industrial revolution . Men aren't needed to lay track and blast mountains

[spoon]

just want your explanation which is still pretty light on detail and thick on bullshit

ground zero for whites, take three

now you go

[spoon]

here comes a chinese business report and info on racial tensions in the shandong province

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dagestan , Chechnya

Yes they worship Allah but its as white as a Coldplay concert there


Caucasian. Do you follow yet?

[spoon]

nope, still makes no sense with no tie to ground zero or explanation

you can't be so silly to say it bc they are white muslims only

that'd be, well, so WF fucking foolish/stupid...hence the cryptic explanation of yet another stupid fucking post filled with your norm

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Should I explain en Espanol? How about Chechen?

[spoon]

Try anything other than your native fucktard speak.

[spoon]

Since you are lazy. The illegal got into an accident and fled the scene. She resisted arrest. Already deported once she is getting canned again.

Damn that site. They should all be polished journalists like David Sirota hoping that terrorists are American born

First off, what exactly was the funny lol part!? Second off, who here defended or ever posted anything from sirota?! Great points as always..."oh yah, well this guy sucks too." No shit Wf, stay on the page silly slut.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I find it funny that an illegal alien activist gets deported . Furthermore her supporters claim she no speaka English but she's smart enough to drive a car

My point about Sirota isn't about you. I'm saying in General, You want to dismiss the article but you were lazy and didn't read it

[spoon]

I find it funny that an illegal alien activist gets deported . Furthermore her supporters claim she no speaka English but she's smart enough to drive a car

My point about Sirota isn't about you. I'm saying in General, You want to dismiss the article but you were lazy and didn't read it

No speaka English and that makes her too dumb to drive, ok WF...classic

And i dismissed the article due to the source, author and his pathetic attempt at a headline. No wonder you post as you do reading that garbage masquerading as real journalism. Just more for you to parrot and look the fool. But yep, lazy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Real Journalism like banning certain words or on a different topic, wanting the pope to be a woman like E J Dionne did?


Yes those polished writers with their academic pedigrees and institutions of journalism whether it's the WaPo or Mother Jones.


This is why they are dismissed as pseudo intellectuals.

[spoon]

Sigh. Such a fucking waste of time even trying. Some how you turned this once again into another one of your mad rants tied to shit nobody even brought up, much less quoted or defended.

Again, sigh.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Feliz Cinco de Mayo

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course these ungrateful fucks use Cinco De Mayo. A day celebrated more here than in May-hee-co to continue their demands for Amnesty and more handouts.


The Church needs people here to fill those masses on Sunday mornings.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20130505-thousands-at-dallas-immigration-march-call-for-legalization-program.ece

[Syd]

St Patricks Day is bigger in America than it is in Ireland.

It's almost like America's culture is a melting pot.

Also Cinco de Mayo would be like Americans celebrating the Battle of the Chesapeake and no one celebrates that, and no one really remembers it either when they talk about tyranny-fightin' because then we'd have to admit France bankrupting itself to fund and supply the American revolutionaries was the reason the British lost.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's just another day to drink

It's really sad that a lot of people think its Mexican Independence day

[sailor]

St Patricks Day is bigger in America than it is in Ireland.

I've heard that's completely untrue.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I have zero problem with people coming here and working.
I have hard time with people coming here and going to emergency rooms , never paying their way and in the case of the boston bombers and collecting rent subsidies and then killing us.
How do you pick out the bad apples, or do you just throw out the baby with the bad bath water?

How do you pick from a PhD in Chemistry who wants to come here and contribute, and a russian who makes bombs? (not saying black hat was a PhD but my point is more how do you pick out ahead of time)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm not saying stop all legal immigration, but we should slow it down. This isn't the 19th and early 20th century in which men were needed to build railroads and infrastructure.

Also limit these Student visas. Many illegals are here on expired visas. Why do we need to keep importing people just to come here and get a PhD just to return to their countries? Immigration is supposed to benefit the host country.

[Jujubees2]

Why do we need to keep importing people just to come here and get a PhD just to return to their countries? Immigration is supposed to benefit the host country.

Because most of them pay full freight and the universities needs the $$$$$$

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ted Cruz to offer amendments to the amnesty bill

No federal handouts at all. Also no way to become a citizen thus blocking their chances to vote themselves raises

Watch the cry baby special interests cry no fair

[hanso]

Your new randian hero brings you joy. This story might do same

California strawberry pickers fired for walking off job to flee wildfire

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/08/california-strawberry-pickers-fired-for-walking-off-job-to-flee-wildfire/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From he article.


"Crisalida Farms settled with the union and offered the workers their jobs back, but all but one declined. The others have since taken jobs on other farms where they feel they are safer."


Also what is wrong with the amendment from Cruz? His proposal allows them to stay. They can become permanent residents but they can't be a burden and they can't become citizens. They are blocked from federal welfare programs but would still qualify for state handouts.


Wow, these poor illegals are getting a raw deal. They are allowed to stay in a country with running water, electricity and where they can go get a hamburger at 3am. How horrible

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wonder how much in taxpayer subsidies that factory farm in the article gets.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This is just for LA


http://sanmarinotribune.com/2013/05/08/welfare-costs-children-illegal-immigrants-exceeds-54-million-march/



And how are these people the best and brightest we keep hearing about ?

[spoon]

From he article.


"Crisalida Farms settled with the union and offered the workers their jobs back, but all but one declined. The others have since taken jobs on other farms where they feel they are safer."


Also what is wrong with the amendment from Cruz? His proposal allows them to stay. They can become permanent residents but they can't be a burden and they can't become citizens. They are blocked from federal welfare programs but would still qualify for state handouts.


Wow, these poor illegals are getting a raw deal. They are allowed to stay in a country with running water, electricity and where they can go get a hamburger at 3am. How horrible

great points wf, the farm when caught and called out by the union doing its job HAD to do so and the Cruz amendment wasn't even commented on by Hanso but don't let that stop another rant

the last sentence, well, let's just say you are still a complete fool/asshole just to talk like that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

great points wf, the farm when caught and called out by the union doing its job HAD to do so and the Cruz amendment wasn't even commented on by Hanso but don't let that stop another rant

the last sentence, well, let's just say you are still a complete fool/asshole just to talk like that

Hanso said new Randian hero.


What's so outrageous about my last sentence or are you that much of an idiot?

Should I explain en Espanol?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dear Third world countries.

Please quit sending your illiterate peasants here. How about US taxpayers sue the home countries for reimbursement?


http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/05/09/auraria-campus-hispanic-custodians-claim-discrimination/

[spoon]

Yah, how about we sue! GREAT points as always fuckwad. So strange people in search of a better way of life and opps would come here and not those doing fine or in positions of power in the native countries. It's so different from when most of us came here so many years ago...oh wait, ignorance is bliss. Fucking shithead.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So people have the right to come here but not the responsibility to learn the language?


So should every sign ever created be in Spanish too? What's the next sob story? Driver didn't understand what do not enter meant and got paralyzed in a head on collision with a Kenworth ?

Or a home invader did not understand a sign that read Beware of dog as a result the homeowners Rottweiler ripped out his larynx

Amazing how these people no speaka English, play dumb but they're smart enough to file a grievance? Then again there's money to be made by lawyers for the victimhood class.

No one pushed their asses across the border or made them overstay a visa.

[spoon]

So people have the right to come here but not the responsibility to learn the language?


So should every sign ever created be in Spanish too? What's the next sob story? Driver didn't understand what do not enter meant and got paralyzed in a head on collision with a Kenworth ?

Or a home invader did not understand a sign that read Beware of dog as a result the homeowners Rottweiler ripped out his larynx

Amazing how these people no speaka English, play dumb but they're smart enough to file a grievance? Then again there's money to be made by lawyers for the victimhood class.

No one pushed their asses across the border or made them overstay a visa.

I'm quite sure I commented on your stupid points IN said post, NOT the article you linked and hardly tied into logically. While I'm quick to understand English is NOT our national language, as we don't have one, I do think their claims are pretty silly. So there you go, jump to conclusions bullshit wf is an ass again. Give me some more scenarios I've never argued for, much less commented on until now. Do try and keep up...and your scenarios are quite pathetically weighted towards extremely rare situations and the sensational to say the least. Still a fuckwad as some of you constant quotable text and tact shows. "no speaka English"...really? Not sure if that's worse than painting all immigrants under the home invader, bad drivers causing paralysis "sob story" brush. I guess once a stupid fuckwad foolish cunt, always a stupid fuckwad foolish cunt. Congrats cunt.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm quite sure I commented on your stupid points IN said post, NOT the article you linked and hardly tied into logically. While I'm quick to understand English is NOT our national language, as we don't have one, I do think their claims are pretty silly. So there you go, jump to conclusions bullshit wf is an ass again. Give me some more scenarios I've never argued for, much less commented on until now. Do try and keep up...and your scenarios are quite pathetically weighted towards extremely rare situations and the sensational to say the least. Still a fuckwad as some of you constant quotable text and tact shows. "no speaka English"...really? Not sure if that's worse than painting all immigrants under the home invader, bad drivers causing paralysis "sob story" brush. I guess once a stupid fuckwad foolish cunt, always a stupid fuckwad foolish cunt. Congrats cunt.

Yes sob story. You are making these people out to be noble people just here to feed their families or have a better life. I never knew the base of the Statue of Liberty said give me your poor tired huddles masses yearning to take advantage of our society and bleed the taxpayer dry.

No we don't have an official language, however our constitution, currency, federal, state, and local laws are in English. Now I'll really turn something you want against you. You advocate single payer, top down, universal, medicare for all healthcare? Why not a uniformed official language. Now people can speak other languages, but people feel they are entitled to come here, the burden is on them to learn how to read and write and speak English.

The company who hired them should be at fault and not the building where they work at.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

These people are just greedy crybabies. More people who were given keys to the castle and they still complain.


They are making a great salary compared to the failed third world countries they come from. Nothing was mentioned about their status but, I am 99.9% sure, They hopped a fence or overstayed a visa.

They live in a country where the lights are always on and they don't have to worry about getting raped by a federale or cartel member but the signs aren't in Spanish. How horrible!!!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There should be hidden cameras set up to see if these people are really injured.


If they are lying, then ship them back if they are here illegally

[hanso]

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[Syd]

No we don't have an official language, however our constitution, currency, federal, state, and local laws are in English.

Counterpoint:
The first American president born in America didn't natively speak English.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Point

In order to carry out the laws English must be known

[sailor]

Counterpoint:
The first American president born in America didn't natively speak English.

Did he govern in Dutch?

[Syd]

Did he govern in Dutch?

Was there a law preventing him from governing in Dutch?

[sailor]

Was there a law preventing him from governing in Dutch?

That's not an answer.

[Syd]

That's not an answer.

Still, is there anything preventing anyone from anywhere from conducting business or government in something other than English or is it merely a hindrance?

[sailor]

Still, is there anything preventing anyone from anywhere from conducting business or government in something other than English or is it merely a hindrance?

I honestly don't get what the two of you are arguing over. I don't think WF said anything other than what you just did. Is he calling for laws, maybe I missed it. No, we don't need laws. I think you're setting yourself up for failure not learning English, but that's your choice.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Never called for all other languages to be banned. However why should there be forced multi lingual ballots ?


If you're living in the US while I'm not making it mandatory , there's no excuse not to learn English

[Syd]

Who is being forced into multilingualism? I haven't ever had to speak anything other than English when dealing with government or business.

[A.J.]

Who is being forced into multilingualism? I haven't ever had to speak anything other than English when dealing with government or business.

They do offer the Spanish option on the phone.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who is being forced into multilingualism? I haven't ever had to speak anything other than English when dealing with government or business.



If you live in NYC Ballots are in at least 10 different languages if you don't speak English

[sailor]

If you live in NYC Ballots are in at least 10 different languages if you don't speak English

Yeah, they should just guess at the options!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How hard is it to differentiate Obama and Romney ?

[Syd]

If you live in NYC Ballots are in at least 10 different languages if you don't speak English

Are the ballots in mixed language? Does each sentence start with English and end with Esperanto? Just because a ballot is in multiple languages doesn't mean that anyone is being forced into anything. Unless of course literally seeing words in foreign language harms people

if that is the case, how do these people manage to go near Taco Bells without throwing a conniption fit?

GODDAMN CHILI CON QUESO MY ASS ITS BEAN STEW WITH CHEESE AND BEEF GRR FUCKING IMMIGRANTS

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Are the ballots in mixed language? Does each sentence start with English and end with Esperanto? Just because a ballot is in multiple languages doesn't mean that anyone is being forced into anything. Unless of course literally seeing words in foreign language harms people

if that is the case, how do these people manage to go near Taco Bells without throwing a conniption fit?

GODDAMN CHILI CON QUESO MY ASS ITS BEAN STEW WITH CHEESE AND BEEF GRR FUCKING IMMIGRANTS


No Mexican would eat at Taco bell. It's kind of like no American of Italian background would be seen at an Olive Garden

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It costs money to have those ballots printed in all those other languages

Furthermore only citizens can vote and in order to become a citizen you need to have an understanding of English.

If you're advocating that ballots be in your language either you're a green card holder or illegal alien and want to commit voter fraud

[Syd]

It costs money to hold elections every few years, too, should we expand terms to save costs?

Also, "an understanding of English" -- does that mean blind people or illiterate people cannot be American citizens?

[sailor]

No Mexican would eat at Taco bell. It's kind of like no American of Italian background would be seen at an Olive Garden

They would and they would.

[sailor]

It costs money to have those ballots printed in all those other languages

Furthermore only citizens can vote and in order to become a citizen you need to have an understanding of English.

If you're advocating that ballots be in your language either you're a green card holder or illegal alien and want to commit voter fraud

Or a citizen born here who was raised speaking a different language, wanting to commit no fraud.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Or a citizen born here who was raised speaking a different language, wanting to commit no fraud.



There are ESL classes provided in school. While the parents don't speak English , 1st Generation children can speak write and read English
They're the ones who fully assimilate

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It costs money to hold elections every few years, too, should we expand terms to save costs?

Also, "an understanding of English" -- does that mean blind people or illiterate people cannot be American citizens?



Blind people can learn Braille. Doesn't take a PhD to notice the difference btwn 2 different candidates names if you're illiterate

How about multilingual Braille ballots

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They would and they would.



The Olive garden is for people who want Manna Cottie as a main dish and some Auntie Pasteo before the entree is served. They love that Matzoh Rella cheese

[SonOfSmeagol]

just a tidbit: the international language of air traffic control is English.

It does make sense for English to be the language of the US. It saves time and money, and promotes commerce and communications. And, the govt could use that money spent for signs and translations on jobs jobs jobs. oh wait, making signs and translations IS jobs. Good ones, too, I tell you!

[sailor]

The Olive garden is for people who want Manna Cottie as a main dish and some Auntie Pasteo before the entree is served. They love that Matzoh Rella cheese


Yes, and many of those people are Italian.

[sailor]

There are ESL classes provided in school. While the parents don't speak English , 1st Generation children can speak write and read English
They're the ones who fully assimilate

I didn't imply they couldn't, but they don't HAVE to, unless I'm mistaken.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Anchor babies as well as children dragged across the border by their parents are entitled to public education per a SCOTUS ruling in the early 80s

Besides if they didn't learn English they wouldn't advance to the next grade. Illegals tend to live in urban areas so schools would have esl classes

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes, and many of those people are Italian.



Not the ones I know. Both sides of my family are of Italian background. Generally speaking people of Italian background go to family owned restaurants for Italian food and not a chain restaurant like O.G.

[PapaBear]

http://jeffkatz.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a721c2d7970b0148c80c837c970c-800wi

[hanso]

Sidney Poitier - anchor baby

[sailor]

Not the ones I know. Both sides of my family are of Italian background. Generally speaking people of Italian background go to family owned restaurants for Italian food and not a chain restaurant like O.G.

Let's not act like Italians are special people. If herds of people to there, Italians make up their fair share.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I disagree.

Another example are Chinese restaurants. Most customers are not Chinese

An authentic restaurant around Canal street is much different than an all you can eat buffet.

[Syd]

Blind people can learn Braille. Doesn't take a PhD to notice the difference btwn 2 different candidates names if you're illiterate

How about multilingual Braille ballots

I'm not sure if Braille has variety of languages, but let's say a deaf person needs sign language. There are multiple versions of "English" sign languages -- American, British and Australian are incompatible despite all three signers understanding written English.

We live in a world that while being fluent and literate in the lingua franca is important, it's not mandatory outside of specific jobs -- air traffic controllers/pilots and things like that.

Not the ones I know. Both sides of my family are of Italian background. Generally speaking people of Italian background go to family owned restaurants for Italian food and not a chain restaurant like O.G.

It's less cultural and more familiarity. OG is basically shit on a plate, but you know that shit on the plate is going to be the same no matter where you go because there ain't going to be mistakes when all they're doing is hitting a button on a microwave. Plus, familiarity with ingredients. Like you said, it's mat zoh rella drenched everything with deep fried cheese/meat for auntie's pasta. No one goes there because it's good, they go there because they're familiar with what they're going to eat. Which is just some horrible stuff be it horrible for you or horrible because it's uninspired.

Even the "mom and pop" italian places aren't all that authentic. My family is culturally Norman, so I can tell when "authentic" Italian is bullshit because it's stuff we'd cook when we're cooking southern French cuisine but with different cheeses and maybe some pasta thrown on. No one really respects southern Italy's cuisine or fresh pasta. You gotta really comb through a list of Italian restaurants nowadays to find something legit. Anyway, that's something of a tangent.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Federal judge rules that Arizona can deny illegals drivers licenses even if they qualify for Obamas illegal amnesty for dreamers

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another one just here for a better life. Maybe wanting a chance to become a doctor or just make enough money to feed her family back in her failed homeland


http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-beat-2-year-old-girl-to-death-va?cid=db_articles

[Jayw]

It is so funny how sheltered we are. Some people spend their time and effort in digging up stories like this and make it fit their political views. This was just a reminder of why I don't waste time arguing my political or religious views. Because there are people like you on the other side of the argument. The same people that are praying to an imaginary guy in the sky. Why would you even argue with someone like that?

So some bitch from mexico did what hoosiers and shitty parents to each week? Boohoo.

Try being born in afghanistan or any middle east country(other than oil rich dubai etc, unless you were a women of course), or these shitty countries in africa. Just consider yourself lucky and live your life to the fullest before china goes bankrupt and everything goes to shit. But I guess living your life to the fullest also includes hating people based on what they believe or label them self as. I could understand if you were on talk radio and got paid to hate and put out propaganda. But just think about what you're doing, spreading hate on the internet hate machine for no other reason than to piss someone like me off and get a response. Grats.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Another one from south of the border. To think there are so many more like this savage who have committed acts like child rape and many more who will continue because we allow garbage to infest this country. Bad enough there is home grown filth, we keep importing trash


http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-raped-pre-teen-girl-washington-forced-her-to-have-abortion?cid=db_articles

[brettmojo]

It is so funny how sheltered we are. Some people spend their time and effort in digging up stories like this and make it fit their political views. This was just a reminder of why I don't waste time arguing my political or religious views. Because there are people like you on the other side of the argument. The same people that are praying to an imaginary guy in the sky. Why would you even argue with someone like that?

So some bitch from mexico did what hoosiers and shitty parents to each week? Boohoo.

Try being born in afghanistan or any middle east country(other than oil rich dubai etc, unless you were a women of course), or these shitty countries in africa. Just consider yourself lucky and live your life to the fullest before china goes bankrupt and everything goes to shit. But I guess living your life to the fullest also includes hating people based on what they believe or label them self as. I could understand if you were on talk radio and got paid to hate and put out propaganda. But just think about what you're doing, spreading hate on the internet hate machine for no other reason than to piss someone like me off and get a response. Grats.

This alllllllllllllllllllllll day.

[brettmojo]

I love how Tim McViegh was a mexican.

And that kid in Newtown.

And the Unabomber.

And Chris Benoit.

And Jodi Arias.

And OJ Simpson.

And Kasey Anthony.

And that chick that drowned her kids in the tub.

And that chick that drowned her kids in the lake.

And that Beretta guy.

And Phil Hartman's wife.

And Charles Manson.

And John Wayne Gayce.

And Ted Bundy.

And that guy in California they cornered in that cabin that burned down.

Jeffrey Dahmer.

And BTK.

And the Menendez brothers.

And David Berkowitz.

And Arthur Gary Bishop.

And Michael Myers.

And Freddy Kruger.

And Jason Vorhees.

And Norman Bates.

And that tornado in Oklahoma today.

Evil Mexicans.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Illegals are such model "citizens"

Read how many have raped murdered driven drunk many times over the limit and killed


But hey , Only Murrrricans are killers. MS 13 is just some local motorcycle club


I guess people like to selectively read here when they don't see that we have enough home grown criminals

[spoon]

Another one from south of the border. To think there are so many more like this savage who have committed acts like child rape and many more who will continue because we allow garbage to infest this country. Bad enough there is home grown filth, we keep importing trash


http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-raped-pre-teen-girl-washington-forced-her-to-have-abortion?cid=db_articles

wow, someone LOVES Dave Gibson and his laser focus on painting all immigrants as you just did above. bottom line here, you can do the same thing with any color or race, in any state but sure it's just illegal immigrants. This guy is an obvious fucking monster, but I guess I missed WF's point bc it's so fucking far off and contrived.

[spoon]

Illegals are such model "citizens"

Read how many have raped murdered driven drunk many times over the limit and killed


But hey , Only Murrrricans are killers. MS 13 is just some local motorcycle club


I guess people like to selectively read here when they don't see that we have enough home grown criminals

no you dumb fuck, nobody said "only murrrricans are killers". you painted the picture the OTHER way along with your obsessed hero gibson. so yah, nice counterpoint to more bullshit you heard in your fucking head. nice work fuckwad...again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no you dumb fuck, nobody said "only murrrricans are killers". you painted the picture the OTHER way along with your obsessed hero gibson. so yah, nice counterpoint to more bullshit you heard in your fucking head. nice work fuckwad...again



You're the dumb fuck who failed to mention the numerous times I said that we have enough criminals born here and that we shouldnt be importing more.


As usual you're just being a vitriolic twat

[spoon]

of course, but you're still an idiot here

try as hard you like to argue with an imaginary person that even hinted at what you said earlier to give you your "angle"

bottom line is simple, you have another hard on and Obama's going to be jealous

you have done almost nothing in this thread but post Dave Gibson articles and act as if they represent the majority of immigrants, when it's an unfortunate cross-section of every demographic. you and your type love to label people like this as much as humanly possible to work the lynch mob mentality and hate.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Spare the dramatics. Illegals aren't being hung from trees or sent to death camps.

Illegals chose to come here for the most part. Furthermore we have 20 million people here that we know nothing about. That poor migrant cutting your lawn may end up cutting you up

Who said all illegals are bad? You accuse me of labeling your comments all the time but you do the same thing.

I'm not opposed to some type of reform but this plan by the gang of 8 will solve nothing and this problem will linger on based on what they are proposing

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So it's ok to post every story of someone in bumfuck Georgia who accidentally shoots his wife but god forbid do the same for vicious crimes of people who aren't supposed to be here then it's blasphemy

[spoon]

So it's ok to post every story of someone in bumfuck Georgia who accidentally shoots his wife but god forbid do the same for vicious crimes of people who aren't supposed to be here then it's blasphemy

both are fucking stupid

thanks for joining the chorus as the lead chair

oh wait, you organized this bullshit

[spoon]

Spare the dramatics. Illegals aren't being hung from trees or sent to death camps.

Illegals chose to come here for the most part. Furthermore we have 20 million people here that we know nothing about. That poor migrant cutting your lawn may end up cutting you up

Who said all illegals are bad? You accuse me of labeling your comments all the time but you do the same thing.

I'm not opposed to some type of reform but this plan by the gang of 8 will solve nothing and this problem will linger on based on what they are proposing

spare the dramatics, and then you IMMEDIATELY follow it up with the examples above?! you're a funny fucking fool, and your poor migrant cutting your lawn and you is even better. 20 million unknowns ON TOP of the unknowns, but keep picking your headline one offs.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Some of the grievance groups don't like this amnesty bill. They claim it's too harsh that illegals have to wait 13 years to become citizens

How is it harsh? They get to stay here and they don't have to go back to their home countries. Chain migration still is in effect. So that means cousins , aunts, entire villages can come here


This gang of 8 bill is another gift

[spoon]

gifts wooooo!

gang o 8

say it more!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Si Señor

[brettmojo]

That poor migrant cutting your lawn may end up cutting you up

Hmmm... That headline is only missing one thing... I KNOW!

http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/news/foxnews/foxnews_images/foxnews_alert_2002_a.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Of course.


It's either that or the other word Sequester

[hanso]

anchor babies
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/usga-r-announce-ban-anchored-putters-starting-2016-144951508.html

[SonOfSmeagol]

gang of 8 bill made it through committee.
Hopefully they can make it work and get it marked up and passed. Best prospect to solve this mess.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My markups would be green card after all provisions are met, if a crime is committed during that time deportation will happen

No Citizenship, only green card status . Exceptions are 4 years military service or 2 years in the peace corps

No Chain migration. You can not bring your entire village here

No federal benefits, instead of back taxes a flat fee of $5000 per illegal, no subsidies no hardship waivers.

End the anchor baby loophole

Illegals have 6 months to apply within signature of the law. This is a 1 time deal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Amnesty bill to face challenges in the house.

Good !! Mark that bitch up and offer amendments

[SonOfSmeagol]

the Mexican Caesar at Chop't is pretty tasty

[epo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/health/immigrants-give-more-to-medicare-than-they-receive-a-study-finds.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Let me explain it: NY Times article in which studies tell us that immigrants are currently paying our bills. It pretty much shoots WF's assumptions in the ass.

Two key takeaways: from 2002-9 immigrants provided $115 Billion in surplus to the Medicare fund. And in 2010 alone, they provided $12B in surplus to Social Security.

So this leads us to the question: why is WrestlingFan such an anchor baby on our society?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So what? They pay sales taxes and the ones who contribute to FICA and income tax committed identity theft by using dead peoples info. The rest committed fraud by using fake numbers

Before you praise them , do you realize that illegals who pay federal income taxes many get more than they Pay via the earned income tax credit and all the other programs. Last year it was discovered that many illegals broke the law by claiming dependents in their home countries

Illegals may pay taxes but they are not tax payers

John Gotti gave to his church but was still a thug

PS There is no SS surplus. Those are IOUs

[epo]

It's sad that WF lives with such blind hate that he cannot see data.

Let's all pray for his soul to see light.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That article is just feel good numbers. It's like people squawking that the Dow is over 15K but they don't know the reason why.


When you pay amount X in federal income taxes and get back X + 1 you're not a tax payer

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What about the rest of us who pay taxes on every level?


Are there gushing articles on Native born people who pay and some are told they don't pay enough for corporate welfare, wars, , the police state and bloated government handouts?

No! It's you don't pay your fair share.

[epo]

When presented with data, WF responds with "derp".

It's embarrassing for all of us. I'm concerned that he may be mentally unstable.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looking at data also requires analysis and actually digging deeper than what's presented to you


Someone reads an article on How Obama saved the auto industry but doesn't actually do the research that bankruptcy laws were violated among many other factors


They gobble up feel good news on how there are great profits but don't bother to read about the tax abatement GM got and how a lot of their debt was forgiven.


This is what happens when there is a dumbed down electorate

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Illegals pay some taxes.

That's like saying you robbed a bank but you gave 10% to charity. How benevolent of you !!!

[Jujubees2]

Whole Foods workers suspended over speaking Spanish (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/whole-foods-workers-suspended-over-speaking-spanish-6C10222989)

Looks like WF will be shopping at Whole Foods

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm actually against this practice, just like I'm not for mandatory ballots in other languages

Fairway markets are better

[SonOfSmeagol]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/health/immigrants-give-more-to-medicare-than-they-receive-a-study-finds.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Let me explain it: NY Times article in which studies tell us that immigrants are currently paying our bills. It pretty much shoots WF's assumptions in the ass.

Two key takeaways: from 2002-9 immigrants provided $115 Billion in surplus to the Medicare fund. And in 2010 alone, they provided $12B in surplus to Social Security.

are these the same immigrants who live in poverty and work long hours with no OT in bad working conditions?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They have to kill the term "living in the shadows ". That's not the case at all. Illegals aren't morlocks living in middle earth

[sailor]

They have to kill the term "living in the shadows ". That's not the case at all. Illegals aren't morlocks living in middle earth

You're badly mixing up Wells and Tolkien. Actually, morlocks would seem to mesh well with your view of illegals.

[SonOfSmeagol]

i can confirm no morlocks in middle earth - cept for that one i saw after i ate that funny little blue mushroom

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Amnesty bill might be dead.

The gangsters of 8 don't want to tie border security as the 1st provision and they don't want the citizenship path increased to 15 years. 13 is what is proposed

[spoon]

GOP: ‘We Support Our Nation’s 11 Million Latino Criminals’ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/gop-we-support-our-nations-11-million-latino-crimi,32784/?ref=auto)

so perfect

[Jujubees2]

Racist Basketball Fans PISSED a Mexican-American Boy Dared to Sing Their National Anthem (http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/52763976629/racist-basketball-fans-pissed-a-mexican-american-boy)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There are still whites in San Antonio ?
Whites go to basketball games ?
Him singing the anthem isn't a big deal. At least it wasn't done in Spanish

[Jujubees2]

There are still whites in San Antonio ?
Whites go to basketball games ?
Him singing the anthem isn't a big deal. At least it wasn't done in Spanish

Yeah, but this was

A Speech in Spanish Is a First for the Senate (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/us/politics/tim-kaines-immigration-speech-in-spanish-is-a-first-for-the-senate.html?_r=1&)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I never thought I would agree with The Race but the spokeswoman was correct. If there should be debate, it should be where all can comprende

[spoon]

There are still whites in San Antonio ?
Whites go to basketball games ?
Him singing the anthem isn't a big deal. At least it wasn't done in Spanish

stupid

very stupid

and yes, at least he didn't go THAT FAR!!

great points as always fuckwad

[spoon]

twitter is just gold for the world's idiotic fucks who want to feel more important than the dog shit they usually say and believe. I'm truly surprised WF hasn't taken to it much more aggressively.

Bottom line here is the irony is so thick with the comments on this kid, a Mexican American in a city where it encompasses a good proportion of the population.

If anything is ruining this country, it's not where people are from, it's the focus on differences once again and the thoughts/mentality of the people no matter where they were born.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Twitter is nothing more than a platform for people to air their feuds with each other and to tell the world about their kids bowel movements and favorite ice cream flavor

[spoon]

and that's the GOOD application by comparison

it's usually much worse

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why do we need to see tweets at the bottom of the screen near the news scroll ?

Does everything need a Hash tag?

[spoon]

what, now God hates tags? great work WF...finally figured out what WF actually stands for - westboro fuckwad

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes, god hates one of Mitt Romneys sons.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

God hates Tag Heuer watches as well

[spoon]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/assets_c/2009/12/tag-heuer-tiger-woods-publicity1-thumb-267x302-15040.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dumb senator makes dumb comment

Mary Landrieu

"I’m going to speak about this amendment for just a minute, but I’ld like to respond to Senator Thune, and I wish that we could get a vote on his amendment as well as this one because I would like to strongly vote and strongly express objection to this amendment. And I’d like to comments for a minute. I chair the Homeland Security Appropriations Committee that is actually building the fence. The money to build it comes though my Committee, so I’ve actually gone down to look at the fence that we’re trying to build. It was shocking to me and would be shocking to everyone in America if they would see it. That no matter if you build a single fence or a double fence with space in between, how easy it is for people to be very ingenious about getting over it or under it. So I would be voting against Senator Thune’s amendment because I’m, not going to waste taxpayer money on a dumb fence and that ‘s what his amendment would be. We need to build a smart fence. And a fence is not just a physical structure which could be built out of a variety of different materials with or without barbed wire on the top. A smart fence which is what Senator McCain and I want to build – since he’s from Arizona, I think he knows more about this than the Senator from South Dakota, who only has a border with Canada that is quite different."

[hanso]

That's dumb you say?

well...


Jeb Bush praised immigrants for being "more fertile" than native-born Americans. Just so you know WF

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yes.

It's North Dakotah that borders Canada

As for Jeb. I like his mothers take. No more Bushs in the WH

[hanso]

U.S. now has most Spanish speakers outside Mexico

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/15/u-s-now-has-most-spanish-speakers-outside-mexico/

There was a time when Latino immigrants in the United States hushed up their Spanish,…
Now they all are talkin crap about WF behind his back.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yo Hablo espanol


I know what they are saying

[spoon]

I call bullshit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I call you Pendejo

[spoon]

I'm sure you hear that one quite often in your direction.

[hanso]

Yes.

It's North Dakotah that borders Canada

As for Jeb. I like his mothers take. No more Bushs in the WH

That long ass paragraph for that? Hit up some bold next time

[cougarjake13]

U.S. now has most Spanish speakers outside Mexico

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/15/u-s-now-has-most-spanish-speakers-outside-mexico/

There was a time when Latino immigrants in the United States hushed up their Spanish,…
Now they all are talkin crap about WF behind his back.


he's just preparing for his future role as house whitey

[Jujubees2]

Looks like the SCOTUS just struck down Arizona law requiring voters to prove citizenship.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nothing like having angry mobs of squatters infesting your property

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/Supporters-Of-Immigration-Reform-Show-Up-At-Kris-Kobachs-Doorstep-211763851.html?device=phone

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like the SCOTUS just struck down Arizona law requiring voters to prove citizenship.



7-2 ruling.

Maybe there will be a provision that they swab DNA against your will

[spoon]

yah, maybe

fucking flight of thoughts is putting it lightly

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You don't have to prove citizenship for federal elections

However citizens must prove they purchase a product or else pay a tax

[Syd]

the right to vote has always been considered an unencumbered right by the post-Reconstruction court

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Rights also have responsibilities no matter if it's owning a gun or voting

[Syd]

the right to vote has always been considered an unencumbered right by the post-Reconstruction court

the right to vote has always been considered an unencumbered right by the post-Reconstruction court

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Rights also have responsibilities no matter if it's owning a gun or voting



Should it be posted en Espanol ?

[spoon]

Should it be posted en Espanol ?

now you are LITERALLY talking to yourself talking points style

ass

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'll take a Pakistani with my big gulp


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3453658

[foodcourtdruide]

Should it be posted en Espanol ?

Why shouldn't the people who do all the hard work in this country be the ones who vote?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why shouldn't the people who do all the hard work in this country be the ones who vote?



If they are illegal they can't vote

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Amnesty bill is losing support and it's going to fall all on the Senate because they want to rush the bill.

However leave it to the RNC to fail to point it out. Those idiots have the market cornered of grasping defeat

[spoon]

yes, blame blame blame

get nothing done of substance

poor GOP

[underdog]

WF's immigration buddy (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/19/co-founder-of-minutemen-border-patrol-group-arrested-on-child-sex-charges/)

I had a friend married to this guy. He tried to kill her and her kids when they left. And he actually ran against John McCain in the 2008 Senate race.

Seems like anyone who is super against something stupid usually has a lot to hide. Anti-immigration people are the new anti-abortionists.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Kind of like politicians who vote for war and got deferments ?

That guy is a lowlife but you do realize that there are hundreds of people in office who are just as bad or worse than him

Did Simcox steal your houseboy ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How about race pimps who want higher taxes but is a tax deadbeat

Or.....


A former VP droning on higher taxes but wanted to get his deal done before year end while selling his channel to oil men

[hanso]

The Amnesty bill is losing support and it's going to fall all on the Senate because they want to rush the bill.

However leave it to the RNC to fail to point it out. Those idiots have the market cornered of grasping defeat

translate
(not allowing anti abortion amendments to immigration bill)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If Rubio runs in 2016 I'd like to see what he has to say when he's gotta defend being played by Durbin, Schumer and Menendez

[WRESTLINGFAN]

translate
(not allowing anti abortion amendments to immigration bill)



Is that for the Senate side of the bill? I didn't see any amendments for anti abortion. Only for border security

[hanso]

Marco Rubio wouldn't say he backed his own immigration reform bill on ABC's “This Week” Sunday.


He wants to pawn it off on amendments but it is to save face with the hard core right.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I have yet to hear anything about chain migration. Why isn't this being addressed ?

[SonOfSmeagol]

Seems like anyone who is super against something stupid usually has a lot to hide. Anti-immigration people are the new anti-abortionists.

so you're picking one example and making a ridiculous generalization. e.g., I happen to be anti-illigal immigration but want to see it resolved in a compromising way. I'm also pro-life but fully respectful of the law of the land and besides I am not going to go nuts over protesting abortion.

complicated, huh?

of course, you're zeroing in on the extreme to try to make some kind of point, I suppose.

[hanso]

Is that for the Senate side of the bill? I didn't see any amendments for anti abortion. Only for border security

House Republicans had already done so in the past, look at Ted Cruz talking up anamendment to immigration bill that permits states to require Voter ID

[hanso]

Marco Rubio 2016 = no more moderate bills from his own desk


Step in line with jackboots on

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What's wrong with ID ?

I need an ID enter a federal building

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Illegals can get IDs in sanctuary cities . New Haven CT hands them out like candy

[A.J.]

Illegals can get IDs in sanctuary cities . New Haven CT hands them out like candy

Mayor DeStefano locking up that Democrat vote!

[underdog]

so you're picking one example and making a ridiculous generalization. e.g., I happen to be anti-illigal immigration but want to see it resolved in a compromising way. I'm also pro-life but fully respectful of the law of the land and besides I am not going to go nuts over protesting abortion.

complicated, huh?

of course, you're zeroing in on the extreme to try to make some kind of point, I suppose.

That was the point. I was talking about the extremists.

[hanso]

What's wrong with ID ?

I need an ID enter a federal building

If I understand it right Ted Cruz is useing the anamendment to kill the immigration bill at his state level.

[SonOfSmeagol]

That was the point. I was talking about the extremists.

"Anti-immigration people are the new anti-abortionists". ya, great point

[foodcourtdruide]

Illegals can get IDs in sanctuary cities . New Haven CT hands them out like candy

Thankfully some cities are still sane. It costs a fortune to prosecute good/hardworking people for trivial "crimes" like not having an ID.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How about having phony ID's or stolen ones ? Are those trivial ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If illegals were hard working. They should work hard to fix the corrupt countries they come from

Graham, Rubio and McCain are insane if they think the GOP will get more votes if illegals are rewarded

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They can join the gang of 8

http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-aliens-arrested-after-gang-rape-illinois

[spoon]

If illegals were hard working. They should work hard to fix the corrupt countries they come from




YAH!!!

:lol:

[hanso]

Kinda like we do here, with the 6 % approval rating for the fools on the hill.

[SonOfSmeagol]

WF's immigration buddy (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/19/co-founder-of-minutemen-border-patrol-group-arrested-on-child-sex-charges/)

I had a friend married to this guy. He tried to kill her and her kids when they left. And he actually ran against John McCain in the 2008 Senate race.

Seems like anyone who is super against something stupid usually has a lot to hide. Anti-immigration people are the new anti-abortionists.

I was a bit harsh. after rereading I see the personal connection to you clearer, shoulda seen it before. apologies

[PapaBear]

If illegals were hard working. They should work hard to fix the corrupt countries they come from

YAH!!!

:lol:
:lol::wallbash::lol::wallbash::lol::wallbash::lol: :wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fuck the gang of 8

Now I hope this fucking bill dies in the house


http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/61079-senate-to-vote-on-comprehensive-immigration-bill-without-reading-it/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Amnesty cleared another stage in the senate

I can't wait for 2016 when Hillary gets 80% of the Latino Vote in 2016 and Chris Christie goes down in flames

[Dude!]

...and Chris Christie goes down in flames

a pig roast!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

That Corker Hoeven amendment was a rouse . 1200 extra pages filed on Friday and voted on Monday

They wanted to rush it because it gives DHS authority and to grant waivers.

The border guards don't have to be in place until 2017

That wall won't be built. In 2006 the wall was supposed to be built . Less than 40 miles have been completed

Also illegals with crimes like DUI and document fraud start off with a clean slate. So much for being 2nd class

[SonOfSmeagol]

The Gang of Eight bill would essentially revamp every corner of U.S. immigration law, establishing a 13-year pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, with several security benchmarks that have to be met before they can obtain a green card. The measure would not only increases security along the border, but requires a mandatory workplace verification system for employers, trying to ensure no jobs are given to immigrants who are not authorized to work in the United States. (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/immigration-bill-2013-senate-passes-93530.html)

seems like a lot of pages to do that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like the gangbangers bill is going to die in the house

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Move over 'Murrrrrica. You're no longer the fattest

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=world&url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57592714/mexico-takes-title-of-most-obese-from-america/&catid=57592714


When tens of millions of them are here doing well,That 30 billion annually of remittances makes a country of Los Gordos

[A.J.]

Move over 'Murrrrrica. You're no longer the fattest

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=world&url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57592714/mexico-takes-title-of-most-obese-from-america/&catid=57592714


When tens of millions of them are here doing well,That 30 billion annually of remittances makes a country of Los Gordos

There are lots of fatties in the Middle East. Since the local populations are taken care of by the rulers out there with oil revenues,, most of them don't work or otherwise so they just hang around the malls all day and eat at shitty, American fast food chain restaurants.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

There are lots of fatties in the Middle East. Since the local populations are taken care of by the rulers out there with oil revenues,, most of them don't work or otherwise so they just hang around the malls all day and eat at shitty, American fast food chain restaurants.



Looks like our drones aren't the only thing killing Arabs

[spoon]

yah, looks like it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We're número dos

[spoon]

you're like a a big steaming duece...that much is true

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Upset that you couldn't find any fat hookers in Tijuana ?

[spoon]

Good one dipshit.

WF still sucks...

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